1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: production of My Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Noel. They called 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: me Ben. We're joined as always with our super producer 7 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: Alexis code named dot Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you. 8 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: You are here, and that makes this the stuff they 9 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: don't want you to know. It's our favorite time of 10 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: the year, folks. We hope that this show finds you 11 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: well amid grand and perhaps creepy adventure as we barrel 12 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: forward into the future toward Halloween. Today, we are sharing 13 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: a number of stories that we feel are both amusing, 14 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: important and as always increasingly relevant. And they come from 15 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: the best part of the show, which is your fellow 16 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: conspiracy realist, Matt Noel. I'd like to kick us off 17 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: today if it's okay with you guys. Sounds great. Okay, 18 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: So a bit of background here before we get into 19 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: some of this correspondence. As you, as you may or 20 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: may not know, our team does this, does this on 21 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: a professional level like it is Weirdly enough, through a 22 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: series of amazing coincidences, coinkad inks we have we have 23 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: ended up working in podcast production, all of us for 24 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: a number of years. And this means that we are 25 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: in a way part of the entertainment industry. Now, make 26 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: no mistakes, folks, were not We're not bragging. We're not 27 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: big deals. Who's like the biggest deal in entertainment? And 28 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: like film and TV? Who's like the big When you 29 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: think a big deal, who do you think of? Is 30 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: like J. J. Abrahms, like Lord Michaels or um Oprah 31 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: Winfrey with that count the Lion from the Metro Goldwyn 32 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: Mayor opening title. Yeah, yeah, it's a big deal. He really, 33 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: he knows it too. No one is bigger than Adam Saidler, 34 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: except perhaps the characters he plays, such as the lunch Lady. 35 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: He's a man of a million voices. So I don't know, man, 36 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: I think he does about two. He's just he just 37 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: kind of yeah, I didn't say a million different voices. 38 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: I will say I would watch a whole movie about 39 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: the lunch Lady. That would be a delight. Yes you 40 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: say that now, So we have for our first piece 41 00:02:55,160 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: of listener correspondence. We're actually going to synthesize and summarize 42 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: the excellent letters, excellent and thorough letters we received from 43 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: two people working in the entertainment industry. When we say 44 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: entertainment industry, we're specifically talking about film, uh TV streaming, 45 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, the stuff that everybody ran to 46 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: amid the pandemic to escape the the at times emotionally 47 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: penurious existence of forced hermitage. So our first letter arrives 48 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: to us from the Duchess of shoulder fade. Shoulder fade 49 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: is all one word. I like that Nick David type 50 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: of hair do shoulder fade unclear? With the code name unclear. 51 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: The significance of the code name is unclear, But surely 52 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:54,279 Speaker 1: the Duchess will right back to us with an explanation 53 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: if they see you so fit. So here we go. 54 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: The Duchess rites from within the bowels of this industry 55 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: and says, in part quote, as we speak, Hollywood fat 56 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: cats studio executives known by the abbreviation a MP t 57 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: P are actively trying to continue their exploitation of thousands 58 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: of hard working and highly trained artists who they abuse 59 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: every single day. The public who actively consumes the fruits 60 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: of our body and mind depleting labors needs to be 61 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: aware of how and at what cost their entertainment sausage 62 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: is made. If anyone is against unfair and unhealthy labor 63 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: practices and conditions, then they must support the IOTSY crew 64 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: members that are literally dying making contents. So you can 65 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: quote Netflix and Chill. So the the AMPTP that the 66 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: Duchess is referring here to is something called the Alliance 67 00:04:55,120 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: of Motion Picture and Television Producers, and IOTSY is a union. 68 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: It's stands for International Alliance of Theater and Stage Employees, 69 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: and as the Duchess explains, it represents all of the 70 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: people that work in theater and film and TV production 71 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: that are considered below the line. Below the lines an 72 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: important distinction. This is um in a way, it's it's 73 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: almost everybody on the other side of the camera, all 74 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: of the people who are making this vision, this story, 75 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: this experience possible. IOTSI, the Duchess says, does not represent actors, directors, 76 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: assistant directors, producers, or production assistants who pas, by the way, 77 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: probably get the the fuzziest end of the figurative lollipop. Here. 78 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: This division, this line that people refer to means that 79 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: people above the line, those actors, writers, directors, producers, tend 80 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: to be paid better, they tend to be treated better, 81 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: they tend to have superior working conditions. As the Duchess explains, 82 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: their information specifically pertains to the thirteen West Coast locals. 83 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: They make up the Motion Picture and Television Department of IOTSY. 84 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: They represent cinematographers, art directors, prop makers, makeup artist, costume designers, editors, 85 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: script supervisors, and many more. So here's what's going on. 86 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: There is a strike brewing. It's been brewing for some time, 87 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: and this is information that is not going to be 88 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 1: new to our many fellow listeners who work in this industry. 89 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: The people in the union, and the Duchess says, of course, 90 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: don't want to go on strike, but they're literally fighting 91 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: for their lives and asking not for an opulent but 92 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: only for a sustainable standard of living. Uh. They recommend 93 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: checking out the Instagram page i A Underscore Stories if 94 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: you would like to learn more about specific individuals experiences 95 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: shared anonymously, of course, for fear of reprisal from the industry, 96 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: and the Duchess goes on specifically to name a couple 97 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: of things we'd like to share with you, the things 98 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: that Yatzi is striving to make reality. And when you 99 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: hear these, if you're not familiar with the industry, it 100 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: will probably surprise you. Like the stuff that these folks 101 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: are fighting for, will will see it'll give you a 102 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: cold shower of a perspective. First, the idea of daily turnaround, 103 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: which means all union members, all locals, get a ten 104 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: hour guaranteed minimum before they have a turnaround. Secondly, they 105 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: want to stop working mission creep into working on the 106 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: weekends that what we can turn around. The industry term 107 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: for this is fratter day. As you can imagine, that 108 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: means a Friday shoot that eventually ends up being in 109 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: actuality is Saturday shoot. They also don't want to continue 110 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: the practice of what's called rolling lunches. A rolling lunches 111 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: where filmy never stops. Crew members rotate themselves out for 112 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: a break, and the Duchess says that the problem with 113 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: this is that in realistic terms, there's often not enough 114 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: crew to rotate out because everybody has a specific job. 115 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: It's not like everyone can do every job. Someone may 116 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: be a world class cinematographer, but they don't know the 117 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: first thing about hair and makeup, and they shouldn't have to. 118 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: But just a quick question just to clarify. So turn 119 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: around just refers to literally the time in between shifts, 120 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: like yes, otherwise it becomes like a double shift, like 121 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: that Faturday thing you're talking about, right, correct. And the 122 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: problem is exacerbated when you have someone who, say, works 123 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: one of those infamous Faturdays and then has very it 124 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: all turn around time before they have to be back 125 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: on set. And keep in mind, you know a lot 126 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: of these a lot of these professionals have to be 127 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: on location way before filming actually occurs. There is a 128 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: ton of work hours and hours and hours of work 129 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: that goes into a shoot before the rest like the 130 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: on camera folks arrived. Also, they want a living wage 131 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: for the lowest paid IOTSY members, some of whom barely 132 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: make above minimum wage or considered on call, which means 133 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: they work however many hours it takes and they only 134 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: get paid the same amount every week. Then they also 135 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: want overall wage increases, better funding for health and pension plans. 136 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: And here's the big one, improvements to what are called 137 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: new media wages and conditions. When read this part in 138 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: full so back six years ago, says the Duchess, when 139 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: streaming was new and people were waking web series. IATSY 140 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: added a side agreement to the basic agreement, allowed what 141 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: was at the time called new media that's your Netflix, 142 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: your Amazon, your Hulu, Crackle back in the day, to 143 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: have special contracts that essentially gave them a price break. 144 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: This was a new form of production. No one understood 145 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: it at the time. AATSI agreed to work for less 146 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: money in order to help the new platform make content 147 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: and be successful. The term new media is obsolete now 148 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: it's streaming. It's no longer new Amazon, Netflix, Peacock, Disney, HBO. 149 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: They're all studios who stream their content and they are 150 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: not struggling new media platforms. IATSI wishes to modify these contracts, 151 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: many of them at very low rates that exploit those 152 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: below the line workers. Streaming media as just as huge 153 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: budget as regular network TV, even larger in some cases. 154 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: They should no longer be able to pay those measly 155 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: new media rates. They're making millions off streaming, yet one 156 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: to continue getting these breaks. Well, now everything streaming, I 157 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: mean Warner Brothers are streaming every single movie on their 158 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: slate for the year in addition to putting it out 159 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: in theaters because of COVID. So, I mean, that is 160 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:10,119 Speaker 1: the very definition of an industry exploiting essentially a loophole 161 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: or or a term that like they're talking about web 162 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: series like that, we're just put out on YouTube independently, 163 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: that's literally so that people making those could afford to 164 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: higher union crew. And now these big, massive companies are 165 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: totally exploiting that whole term that is that is painfully 166 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: um exploitative. Yeah, yeah, it is. And it's also you know, 167 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: it reminds me of the old observation that is, unfortunately 168 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: so often true power is rarely given, must often be taken. 169 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: So the Duchess goes on and we are we are 170 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: summarizing some of this, but goes on to explain real 171 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: world consequences of people who are laboring under these conditions. 172 00:11:55,240 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: Even before COVID. Of course, it's normal to have these long, 173 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: long work hours, going into a shoot at seven am 174 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: on a Friday, getting off at three am on Saturday 175 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: the next day. Uh, the Duchess notes crew members are 176 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: dying when they're driving home after working fifteen sur shifts 177 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: with minimal sleep and This clearly has an impact on 178 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: people's quality of life, their relationships outside of the job. 179 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: This is an unsustainable situation. Duchess, I want to thank 180 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: you for this thorough and objective look at the problems 181 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: that are occurring, what's leading to this strike. And I 182 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: believe we were in conversations off air. The union's vote 183 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: on the strike occurs between October one and October three, 184 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: so you're going to be hearing this after the voting 185 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: has occurred. Duchess ends with saying, I just want the 186 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: folks that consume and enjoy what we make to hear 187 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: our stories and to let the studios, which are literally 188 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: owned by giant tech companies now know they stand with Iotsy. 189 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: We're not Hollywood elite, the Duchess says, we're hard working 190 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: craft people that are literally dying making sitcoms. I'm not 191 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: sure how listeners can help, other than by canceling their 192 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: streaming memberships, commenting against a MPTP on articles about the situation, 193 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: maybe calling out studios on social media. So this is 194 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: Matt No, let's just a quick pause before we continue. 195 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: This is something I think that that we at all, 196 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: we and doc and and Mission control had heard about 197 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: brewing because Atlanta is a bit of an up and 198 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: coming town for film and TV production, would you agree? 199 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't even call it up and coming anymore. 200 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: It's sort of the place, you know, Ywood. They built, 201 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 1: uh Pinewood Studios where they shot all the originally James 202 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 1: Bond movies in London or in England, in the UK, 203 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: and they have the second only only second ever Pinewood 204 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: Studios is here and it Alanna or they shoot like 205 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: all the Marvel movies. I mean, it's become like home base. 206 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: So yeah, we all know people who or have dated 207 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: people perhaps or good dear friends with people who have 208 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: been subjected to these kind of conditions for for years. Um, 209 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: you both, I believe met The girl I dated for 210 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: a while who was an assistant director continues to be 211 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: um and it was hard to find time with her, 212 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: like to even hang. Our schedules were so weirdly misaligned, 213 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: and a lot of it was because of these turnarounds 214 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: where they were not existent. It felt like the rules 215 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: just didn't apply, you know. Um, even with the help 216 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: of of a union, it just seems like the cards 217 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: are definitely stacked against against these folks in a lot 218 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: of ways, especially like you said, Ben, the people who 219 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: um need maybe the most help, who were making the 220 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: least amount of money. I mean, she, thankfully was in 221 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: a pretty pretty fancy position. You know. That sets up 222 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: the ladder quite a bit. And maybe those people are like, okay, 223 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: all right, it's worth it. I'll deal with that, you know, 224 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: and then they take all their vacation in one big go. 225 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: But for folks that are just trying to get their 226 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: foot the door, I mean, they're absolutely being taken advantage of. Yeah, 227 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: I think comparing Atlanta in l A is very helpful here, 228 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: but it's also just a something that is happening in 229 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: every major city on the planet right now. The cost 230 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: of living is going up, but the raises, the standard 231 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: raises that are being seen across the board come nowhere 232 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: close to meeting the necessary amount of money increase just 233 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: to live in a city. So, you know, thankfully there 234 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: is this entity that is fighting back or on behalf 235 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: of you know, the iotsy members. It's just it stinks 236 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: to think that not everybody has something like that. Yeah, yeah, 237 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: that's a good point. And this this is interesting too 238 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: that you say this meant because multiple studies have found 239 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: that if if minimum wage did rise and step with 240 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: productivity for the past few decades, since like nineteen sixty eight, 241 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: the minimum wage would be over twenty war dollars or 242 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: over twenty five dollars. Today it just hasn't. It hasn't 243 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: risen wages having a very real way stagnated. And we 244 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: we want to give before we open up the whole conversation, 245 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: and we want to give a shout out to one 246 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: person we can mention by name, Agamemnon. Your name is awesome, 247 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: Thank you for writing in. Agamemnon is a retired IoTs 248 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: six nine five production sound mixer worked for almost fifty 249 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: years in the industry. Also wanted to bring the stewing 250 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: strike to our attention and more importantly, fellow conspiracy realist 251 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: to your attention. Uh. Before Agamemnon's part says that the 252 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: strike is on the way because the strike became a 253 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: possibility because that production group AMPTP was stonewalling ignoring the 254 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: request of iotsy Uh. And this ultimately, like you said, Matt, 255 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: this is what these kinds of organizations are explicitly designed 256 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: to do, to give collective bargaining power, to give voice 257 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: to people who are often voiceless or ignored. With that 258 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: in mind, I suggest that we talk just a little 259 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: bit more about what exactly is going on with the batsy, 260 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: what the what the future of this will be, what 261 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: the context should be. And you know, nol as you said, yeah, 262 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,239 Speaker 1: we do know a lot of people who were in 263 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: production in one capacity or another. You know, these are 264 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: in fact in Atlanta. It would be I positive at 265 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: this point somewhat unusual not to know at least tangentially 266 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: a couple of people, and are big question here is 267 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: what does this mean for the future. Again, we are 268 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: operating under what more stuff you folks might call information asymmetry, 269 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: which means right now, if you're listening to this when 270 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: it comes out, you know some things that we do 271 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: not know yet. You probably know how the vote went, 272 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: whether or not a strike did come to pass. You 273 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: probably know whatever new volleys of the information war on 274 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: social media were made in the intervening time between when 275 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: we recorded this and when we published it. But one 276 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: thing that we can say for certain is that even 277 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: if a strike does not come to pass, the situation 278 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: appears largely unsustainable. And I think we can't forget what 279 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: a terrible situation people were already put in when productions 280 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 1: shut down during the pandemic, right, yeah, just having absolutely 281 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: no work. Well, and it makes sense then that they're 282 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: digging their heels in, you know, while on one out 283 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: on one side of their mouth, they're expressing solidarity, you know, 284 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: with their the amazing people that make the magic happen 285 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: and all of that. Uh and and so happy that 286 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: we're all back to work and we're all thinking of 287 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: we're thinking of you and all of this and have 288 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: done everything we can to make it safe for you 289 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: to come back to work. Out on the other side 290 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 1: of their mouth, they're absolutely capitalizing on the fact that 291 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people are like, well, at least I 292 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: have a job. At least we're back to work. And 293 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: if you don't nip that in the bud right away, 294 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: that's just gonna become the status quo forever. You know. Um, 295 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: there's no question about it. I Mean, it's sort of 296 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: the equivalent of of maybe not giving certain benefits back 297 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: after the pandemic. It's like, oh, well, we're just we're 298 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: we're in the same boat as you. You know, production 299 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: was slowed and all of that, so we we were 300 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: waiting to see when when things come back to normal. 301 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: But I mean things are pretty much back to normal 302 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: at least in terms of like production and new content. 303 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: And we know nobody's gonna stop making content, so why 304 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: not just sort it all out and make sure everyone's 305 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: like on the same page. But do you guys, I 306 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: don't know I'm saying this, but and just to look 307 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: at both sides, do you think there's any validity to 308 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: this notion that, well, the grossers are still way down 309 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: and you know, fewer movies are going to be coming out, um, 310 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,239 Speaker 1: and everything is now streaming first, as opposed to like 311 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: we when we could depend on big opening weekends. It 312 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: now constitutes a big opening weekend after COVID is far, far, 313 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: far less than what would have constituted a successful opening 314 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: weekend before COVID. And again, these are problems that have 315 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: been brewing way before. But I'm just wondering if maybe 316 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: the timing, you know, has something to do with COVID, 317 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: and if there is somewhere to meet in the middle 318 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: between the two parties. Yeah, this leads to one of 319 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: the some of the closing points I wanted to make 320 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: it right now, is the situation stands Uh, you are correct, 321 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: and uh in that the production side of this their 322 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: their argument from the Alliance Motion Picture and Television Producers 323 00:20:55,240 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: is that the overall industry is still very much in 324 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: recovery from COVID. They also they also state that they 325 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: had offered the union a plan for better wages, longer 326 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: rest periods, and more funding for pension and health plans. 327 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: But the thing is, people like the communications director for 328 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: Yazi uh jonas Loa speaking with MPR, don't agree that 329 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: AMPTP ever did that. The thing is, you know, you 330 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: could say, oh, there's some sort of like a um 331 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: exaggeration or emotional manipulation, but yes, the truth of the 332 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: matter is people are being overworked and they are driving 333 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: in dangerous conditions. Those are not fictitious stories. It's not 334 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: like that Hill and Nolton testimony that led to the 335 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: Gulf War. This is a story about things that actually happened. WHOA, 336 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: I walked down the street to throw that shape, but 337 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: I hope it landed. One more thing. I know we're 338 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: we're going along on this, but it's just really important 339 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: to a lot of people who have asked us to 340 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: share this story. Our own code named doc Holiday has 341 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: pointed out for anybody who wants to learn more wants 342 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: to take action. If you want to learn more, do 343 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: check out the Instagram page I A Underscore stories as 344 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: created by industry lighting technician named Ben Gottlieb, and you 345 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: can read a lot of accounts of the of the 346 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: consequences of this situation. But this is what Doc pointed out. 347 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: You can do more than just cancel the streaming service 348 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: if you would like. Um for the Duchess's suggestion, there 349 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: is also a petition making the rounds. All you have 350 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: to do is I think it's as simple as just 351 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: searching your inn at browser choice for iatsy petition I 352 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: A T S e UH. And you don't have to 353 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,719 Speaker 1: be in the Union to sign this petition. It's just 354 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: a public show of s work. And of course, as 355 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: we mentioned in our earlier Strange News this week, there 356 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: is there is an open question regarding the actual effectiveness 357 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: of petitions and all I think it was you who 358 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: raised that point when Matt was telling us a little 359 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: bit about proposed deep sea mining. It was a meaning 360 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: to be cynical, but I appreciate the solidarity that allows 361 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: folks to express but I just don't know I've ever 362 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: seen a petition alone caused you know, a giant, powerful 363 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: entity to to make a change unless it benefited them. 364 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: Right and there there we see you know. Of course, 365 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: there's still questions about petitions, the use of petitions itself. 366 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: Maybe uh an interesting twist for a future episode spoiler alert. 367 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: But for now, this is the information we have. There 368 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: is much much more out there. If you're interested, we 369 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: encourage you, as always to learn more. If you are 370 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: hearing this and you yourself work in the industry, we 371 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: would also like to hear your story. We would like 372 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: to hear your opinions. Uh. And honestly at this point, 373 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: if you're listening now, uh, and you've got some of 374 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: that time off, then turn it off, go hang out 375 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: with your family, don't don't feel like you have to 376 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: hang out with us. 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Why on Earth 386 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: would any unidentified aerial phenomena have lights? What is the 387 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: purpose of a light for a space faring craft that 388 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: can perhaps travel across galaxies? Uh? Why would they need 389 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: actual visible spectrum lights on their craft for landing? Same 390 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: reason airplanes need them. Airplanes don't need them to see, 391 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: they need them for visibility from other craft or, you know, 392 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: to communicate. Perhaps it's like how wearing the mask is 393 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: supposed to protect other people from an infunction, not protect you. 394 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: Got you, okay, I'll see that. The point it took 395 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: me down was that, well, if this craft has sufficient 396 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: technology to traverse those vast distances, wouldn't they have some 397 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: kind of technology to detect when there are other things 398 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: in range of them? Where exactly in space those things are? 399 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: Where it is in relation to a planet. Let's say 400 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: that it's going to land on or any other body, Like, 401 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: why would you need to project out with a visible 402 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: spectrum light where you are and to be able to 403 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: see where you're landing? Well? You know that, UM, I 404 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: guess our best place to start with that, Matt, would 405 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: be the idea of external lights on human made spacecraft, right. 406 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not it's clearly not a fair comparison, 407 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: because any um, any extraterrestrial, manufactured or ultar dimensional, want 408 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: to get fun with it. Uh, manufactured craft would probably 409 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: have something to your point, that's far superior to the 410 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: detection capabilities of conventional lights. In the case of human beings, 411 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: the lights are needed to I first identify the vehicle, right, 412 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: but also to identify possible crevices on the craft. People 413 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,719 Speaker 1: still need lights if they're doing e v A repairs 414 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: or something like that. You would need lights if you 415 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: want to get a slick photo op, etcetera. Because people 416 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 1: just unfortunately aren't super impressed with graphs of light that 417 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: is invisible to the human eye. Um. It is also 418 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: a great question because you know, I thought of this 419 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: years ago, and I can't remember if we ever talked 420 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: about it. But let's say you have one of the 421 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: crafts that science fiction writers have dreamed about for centuries, 422 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: a craft that can go faster than the speed of light. 423 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: It's not it's not doing a little like Wrinkle and 424 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: Time kind of teleportation it's not doing an event horizon 425 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: dropping a black hole kind of deal. It's just going 426 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: faster than light. Then wouldn't the equivalent, the space bound 427 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: equivalent of headlights be useless because you're going faster than 428 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: the light they produce. Can actually yeah, not not to 429 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: mention if if there's anything that, um that movie, uh 430 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: what is it? Arrival? Did? Um? It just goes to show. 431 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: So we have no frame of reference for like what 432 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: any alien species, how they communicate, how they perceive the world. 433 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: You know, we base everything around perception of the visible 434 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: light spectrum and like perceiving objects with our eyes. Who 435 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: knows if that's even the way their physiology works. You know, 436 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: it could all be with um, some form of telepathy, 437 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: or with any number of other ways like visible light. 438 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: You know, isn't necessarily something that's like that universal. I 439 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: mean it is obviously on our planet, but who the 440 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: hell knows what's what's going on anywhere else. So it's 441 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: a good point. I think it's interesting to think about, right, 442 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: I think makes sense what I'm saying, Like the the 443 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: idea that, like I think we we are basing everything 444 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: around our equipment, you know, as human beings, whereas there 445 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: could be others that maybe there's a whole another kind 446 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: of perception that we are not even aware of, in 447 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,959 Speaker 1: the same way that we might not have any grasp 448 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: of the kinds of technologies that we're talking about. You know, 449 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: this is always what comes up. Hold on, hold on, 450 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: are you telling me and all the people listening to 451 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: this show that humans might have a tendency to be 452 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: disgustingly self centered? If you want, if you want to 453 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: describe that with if you want to put a tie 454 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: on that concept, so you can take it with you 455 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: to fancy, get your parties, just start using the phrase 456 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: and throw centric and throw trick as hell over here. 457 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: I know, I know, but you're not. I feel like 458 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: you were. We were about to say something. Yes, I 459 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: am going to say something because as a little spark 460 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: happened while I was thinking about this, and I've got 461 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: an answer for you about why there are lights on 462 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: U A P s that we snap here were we 463 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: we talked about this whole thing. The other the other 464 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: thing that we can kind italie in after this and 465 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: compare these two is that if it's a super secret 466 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: let's say, stealth aircraft of some kind that's being tested 467 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: Why on Earth would they not disable the lights. Why 468 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: would Lockheed and skunk Works not disable the lights when 469 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: it's functioning, right, at least over a certain part of 470 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: the U S or wherever it's functioning, just to maintain 471 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: that cover of darkness, lack of light. Um. The other 472 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: thing is, though, what if it's bioluminescence. Now Here's why 473 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting. We just talked about drilling. We 474 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: just talked about drilling in the abyssle plane deep beneath 475 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: the oceans. Now, we talked about how there's so many 476 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: similarities between that realm and the realm in space. Right, 477 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: there's a little problem with a lack of you know, 478 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: oxygen or any other substance that a biological creature could breathe, 479 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: at least to our knowledge, to our understanding. But in 480 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: the abyssle plane, bioluminescence it there's so many reasons to 481 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: have it, not only for communication, being able to see. 482 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: I mean, this is everything you need as a creature 483 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: in the bottom of the sea. You can achieve a 484 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: ton of it through biolumin essence, including getting good call. Yeah, 485 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: and recently, just like um, very recently, I think the 486 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: news just hit today In fact, Uh, southeastern pocket gophers 487 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: here in Georgia turned out to be bioluminescence. There's a 488 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: lot more and no one knows why yet. No one 489 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: knows though, Is that like a tamagotchi? I know, I 490 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: hit you guys with a lot in one sentence. Yes, 491 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,479 Speaker 1: there are things called pocket gophers and they glow and 492 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: no one knows why. Uh, they're in South Georgia and 493 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: a couple of other states. Um, no connection with extraterrestrials. 494 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: But this I love the point about biolumin essence, Matt. 495 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: That's my next speculation was going to be something like, 496 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: maybe the light is a side of that of whatever 497 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: power source is moving the thing. And those two answers 498 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: may not be, you know, mutually exclusive, right, It could 499 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: be both bioluminescence and a power source um or pocket 500 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: go fers. I don't know. I'm just I'm like you guys, 501 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm taking this in now. If it was 502 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: pocket badgers, it would be so much better. It would 503 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: be so much, so much more on brand. Also find squirrels, 504 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: want bats and platypuses are apparently bioluminescence. Oh my gosh, 505 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: we'll see that's incredible, and I'm done. Obviously, we're look, 506 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: we're this is a thought experience. We're speculating here. Um. 507 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: Sure it's a fun thing to do, but it's also 508 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: a way to expand the way we look at these things. Right, So, 509 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: perhaps there's something out there glowing up because it just 510 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: does it naturally and it's a living being, or I 511 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: love what you said, there's been Perhaps it's just a 512 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: Perhaps it's just an effect of whatever the power sources, 513 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: whatever energy source exists there. Or maybe there are no 514 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: extraterrestrial craft up there, but it feels less and less 515 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: likely every day when more and more weird stuff is happening. 516 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just excited about that. And Matt, 517 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: I appreciate you sending us a voicemail. I do apologize you. 518 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: There's a small portion that I can make out until 519 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: it whatever occurs in there, there's some errors, So thank 520 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: you very much. Oh yes, thank you. And also, first off, 521 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: any Matt is typically a friend of the show. We're 522 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: very pro Matt here. Also, I just want to keep 523 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: on this for one moment. I know it's such a 524 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: Thing's correct myself where I was talking about biofluorescence, so 525 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: they're biofluorescent animals, and one unnamed scientists in a recent 526 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: article that released today, referred to the pocket gopher as 527 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: get this, a quote homely belligerent sausage. So let's hope 528 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: the aliens aren't. Aren't on that vibe, these homie belligerent sausages, 529 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: or keep getting into these metal things and driving along 530 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: painted lines. It's very strange. The guy who discovered this, JT. 531 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: Pin p y n n E Apologies of the mispronounced 532 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: your name, sir uh said that they've always described pocket 533 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: gophers as quote really angry russet potatoes. So again, let's 534 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: hope the aliens are cooler. It's such a good question, though, 535 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: like what why would you have lights? It's it's you know, 536 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: it's your point about anthrocentrism. What we perceive as lights, 537 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 1: if we're talking about a truly alien civilization, would almost 538 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 1: certainly not be for the same reason, right, Like they 539 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: might even have eyes, you need eyes for cans might 540 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: be weird to them. You know, where we're going, we 541 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: won't need us or hands or roads or hands or hats, 542 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 1: like just thinking that we're taking the gophers with us exactly. 543 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: Oh boy, Well, anyway, Hey, that was a quick one, 544 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: but just wanted to have that conversation with you, guys 545 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: if you have thoughts specifically on why you ap. Phenomena 546 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: is almost always light based, not always, but very often 547 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: a light based experience. Right to us the email conspiracy 548 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: at our heart radio dot com or one eight three 549 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: three std w y t K. We're gonna take a 550 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: quick break and we'll be back with more listener mail, 551 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: and we're back in today's final listener mail comes to 552 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,439 Speaker 1: us from the Guy on the couch. He says, Hi, guys, 553 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: greetings from Sweden. First of all, big fan of your show. 554 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: You always bring interesting topics to the table and it 555 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: gets my old gray blob working. I guess he's referring 556 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 1: to his brain. Never heard of it for the old 557 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: gray blob, but that is charming and I love it 558 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna use it from now on. The other day, 559 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: over a inner with some friends, the discussion regarding conspiracies 560 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: involving stuff like dental and car care came up. For example, 561 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: the possible scenarios of a dentist intentionally maybe drilling just 562 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: a bit too much to make you come back again. Anyways, 563 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 1: long story, short, we started to talk about bad site, 564 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,479 Speaker 1: the possibilities to train your sight back to health once 565 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: it got bad, and if classes really are good for 566 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: you or is it all part of a bigger thing. 567 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: Here in Sweden, for example, the opticians have a subscription 568 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: program where you rent your glasses for a monthly fee. 569 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: You need to rent three pairs at least, and also 570 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: stuff like appointments and checkups are included. UH. This is 571 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: shown to be very lucrative for the companies and much 572 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: less so for the consumers. I'm sure this is not 573 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: exclusive to Sweden though. Anyway, awesome show. Keep up the 574 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: good work. Sincerely, yours the guy on the couch, Yes, 575 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: the guy on the couch with these nicknames such good, 576 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: such good ones. And then UM t g O T 577 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 1: c uh t g T t g O TC comes 578 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: back and sends us a couple of links and surprise, surprise, 579 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: eyes are old pals uh Lexotica come up, and then 580 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: several of these articles. We've been talking about doing a 581 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 1: full episode on this, so I thought maybe we could 582 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: do a little bit of a primer on um how 583 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: uh ellis or Lexotica because they used to be two companies. 584 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: And then Ellis or bought Lexotica for about twenty four 585 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: billion dollars. By the way, um Elisair was a French 586 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: company that's been around since the eighteen hundreds, UM and 587 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: just buying up companies as as they've gone. So it's 588 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: one of those legacy companies that has the benefit of 589 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,919 Speaker 1: you know, time and uh and um generational wealth. They 590 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: take the long view. Lens Crafters, Sunglass, Hut, Target, Pearl Vision, 591 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:49,919 Speaker 1: what else, what else? Ray Bad, but Oakley not only 592 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: exactly been you nailed it. Not only those have they 593 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: bought up over time, but also even like optical um 594 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 1: insurance companies. UM. So they really do have what one 595 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: might consider a pretty significant an Let's go, let's go 596 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: through a few more of these. Yeah, we've got product. 597 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: They make them for it. Rather, they don't own all 598 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: of these, but they make glasses from frames for Prada, Chanel, Dulcin, Gabana, Versacei, Burberry, Ralph, Lauren, Tiffany, Bulgari, Vogue, persul, 599 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: Uh Coach, d K and y Um and some of 600 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: these companies they own, some of them they just manufactured 601 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: for Lens Crafters. They own Oakley, they own I believe 602 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: Ray Band, They definitely own UM sunglasses. They own UM 603 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 1: Target optical pearl visions, Here's optical etcetera. They also, let's see, 604 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: they control apparently around eighty percent of the major brands 605 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: UM in the whole world. UM, it's uh the industry 606 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: at large. And this is an article from Forbes from 607 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,959 Speaker 1: Wila ways back from this from UH, it's definitely changed. 608 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: We need to do some updates, so she will do 609 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 1: in the full episode. UM, but are in they controlled 610 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: something in the neighborhood of the major brands and at 611 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: that time the eyeglass industry was worth around twenty eight 612 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 1: billion dollars UM. There is another really cool article that's 613 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: more recent that came from Vox, where a couple of 614 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: former lens crafter executives walk through why it is that 615 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: a pair of glasses UM can get marked up by 616 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: nearly one thousand percent, meaning that you know, what you 617 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: pay for the privilege of having these glasses UH is 618 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: insanely more than what it costs to make them, which is, 619 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: you know how business works, but you know, when your 620 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 1: choices are so limited, then it starts to feel a 621 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: little a little weirder. And there certainly are disruptors to 622 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 1: this model like Warby Parker, and um, I believe any 623 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 1: optical is a really popular one, so you don't have 624 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 1: to pay these prices. Um. I don't think anyone is 625 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 1: saying that the kind of monopoly that this apears to 626 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 1: be is is completely disruptive. But if you want to 627 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: have those uh, those Dultcha and Gabana frames or those 628 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: ray bands, you know you're gonna you're gonna pay uh, 629 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 1: significantly more than you would for a pair of glasses 630 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 1: for Morby Parker that you can get for like, you know, 631 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: in the neighborhood of like thirty or fifty bucks. A 632 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:17,800 Speaker 1: lot of this has to do with the fact that 633 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 1: um Luxotica is able to kind of set the pricing 634 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: um and the price floor uh for eyeglasses because they 635 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: own so many and you know, control so much of 636 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: the means of production for even companies that they don't own. 637 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: And there was a really cool little graphic that kind 638 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: of spelled this out on this Forbes article, and it 639 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: refers to the way that the government does limit price 640 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: to kind of match what's called marginal cost, but they 641 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: are able to set the price floor like just you know, 642 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: just close enough to meet that government regulation and guys. 643 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 1: In this Forbes article, um from it's a great article, 644 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,399 Speaker 1: but I think we all agree there's this graph that's 645 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,399 Speaker 1: sort of trying to describe how they're able to set 646 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: these prices, these price margins, and how government's um, you know, 647 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 1: regulation figures into that. But it looks more like a 648 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: cross section of a mountain and a geological survey or 649 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: something than it does like a readable GRAPHU. I don't know. Yeah, 650 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 1: there is a bit. Yeah, it's at raor shack level. 651 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 1: It reminds me a little bit. We know a lot 652 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: of solid work went into this, but just visually reminds 653 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: me a little bit of those p s a s 654 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,320 Speaker 1: where they would dose spiders with different types of drugs 655 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: and they see what kind of webs they made. You know, 656 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: this looks this got a spider on a couple of 657 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: different drugs. Vibe a little bit of Family Circus maps 658 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: going around. You remember the comic strips where they would 659 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: just have one panel there's one of the kids from 660 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: Family Circus just walking around the neighborhood. It's got it's 661 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 1: got that. But what the argue meant here, what I 662 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: believe they're saying here is that it's really comment on 663 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: the relationship between a monopoly and government regulation of a monopoly. 664 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:17,760 Speaker 1: So there are government regulated monopolies, just like Quebec's maple 665 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: syrup gang. I don't know why that sounds like a 666 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: cartoon to the maple syrup gang they get into the 667 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 1: apple dumpling game, but I believe that was that's why. 668 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: That's why borderline, the maple syrup thing when you're talking 669 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: about is borderline like a cartel. Right, Yeah, it's been 670 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,439 Speaker 1: called it's been called at cartels. No, I completely agree, 671 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: And this is a complex issue and there's a lot 672 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: of interesting history that I think we're absolutely gonna keep 673 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:44,839 Speaker 1: this a shorter one. Leonardo del Vecchio um At at 674 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: least at the time of this article back in was 675 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:53,760 Speaker 1: the you know, living heir to this um Lexotica fortune 676 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: and this whole company, and he's the guy that founded 677 00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 1: Lens Crafters Um. And there's a really great article that 678 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: I need to to finish reading all of in The 679 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: Guardian called The Spectacular Power of Big Lens, How one 680 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 1: giant company will dominate the way the whole world sees 681 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: um And that is from just a couple of years ago. 682 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: So I think that'll be a great resource for the 683 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: full episode. But there's a pretty incredible couple of sentences 684 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: that I just wanted to point out. And before we 685 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 1: we we closed for the day. On a shelf near 686 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: the door of the museum, I spotted a man who 687 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 1: sees far an official Luxotica biography of del Vecchio, which 688 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,320 Speaker 1: was published in I expected the optical world to be 689 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: genteel and polite, and was taken aback. Whatever conversation has 690 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: turned to the personal charisma and menace of del Vicio 691 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,720 Speaker 1: without Vecchio rather, um, he's the godfather, said Dean Butler, 692 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,320 Speaker 1: who founded Lens Crafters in three. Del Vecchio bought it 693 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 1: in Excuse me, I misspoke earlier. He bought Lens Crafters 694 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,360 Speaker 1: and five, just like they bought all these other properties 695 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: that we've been talking about. Here's the kicker. The godfather 696 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: to me is the guy. He runs it honest sleep. 697 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: He kind of rules by fear. Very few opticians would 698 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 1: even mention Delvecio's name, lending him a voldemort like aura 699 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 1: for fear of offending him. However unlikely that might be. 700 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: One talked about getting a horse's head in the bed 701 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: and concluded our interview by saying you can quote me 702 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 1: as long as it sounds like I am sucking del 703 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 1: Vecchio's So it was like leave that last part into right, 704 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: make sure all this to say, I want to know 705 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: more about this Delvecchio character and the history of the 706 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: family that led to this essential you know, um sunglasses, eyeglasses, 707 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: Cartel or they own your right, then it's this particular 708 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: type of resin that they used to make these glasses. Um. 709 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 1: That is like they own the patent on it. It's 710 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,800 Speaker 1: a particular type of resin. Um, So let's do it. 711 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: I mean, this is like they're fast a stuff in here. 712 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,800 Speaker 1: And I want to read this biography too, because again 713 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 1: it's the official biography, by the way, which probably is 714 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: going to paint him at a very positive light. Did 715 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 1: you see the official response at the end of the 716 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: Forbes article saying that I did. Look, we we love 717 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: what you're saying here. We get it. Yeah, we have 718 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,839 Speaker 1: some awesome stuff. We make a lot of great things, 719 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 1: but we only manufactured around ten percent of all the 720 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 1: eyeglasses sold last year, so you know, we're not quite 721 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 1: a monopoly. And it's true. But if you go to 722 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,839 Speaker 1: a glasses store to get your eyes checked, they're all 723 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 1: up in there. Oh yeah, oh yeah, So let's leave 724 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: it there for today. Um, thank you the t G 725 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: O C, the guy on the t G O t 726 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 1: C or the guy on the couch form shooting us 727 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: these links and um, we are going to explore this 728 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,359 Speaker 1: in depth in an upcoming episode in the meantime, if 729 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 1: you want to take a cue from the guy on 730 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 1: the couch and uh, who else do we have today? Guys, 731 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: we also had the Duchess of shoulder fade, much more 732 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 1: famous than the mythological version, and ye, we'll want to 733 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 1: take a cue from all of them, your fellow conspiracy realists, 734 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,800 Speaker 1: you can find us on the internet. 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