1 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: It is Thursday, September twenty eight to twenty seventeen, Season thirteen, 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: episode number forty six. Welcome to a new edition of 9 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: The Break. I'm Derek Eagleton. We're joined by our normal 10 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: cast here. We're in the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star. 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: How's everybody feeling this morning? Hello, Derek, good, I feel good? Good. Amber. No, 12 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: I don't know why you say no. I'm not going 13 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: to ever stop that. You know that we've been doing 14 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: this for a long time. Every once in a while, 15 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, Nick, everyone is once a year. That's 16 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: not true. I called you Nikki the other day and 17 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: you actually were okay with you, Like, Hey, what's up? 18 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: So Nikki eats Nikki? It's really Nick e right, Yeah, 19 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: it's true, Nick, It's accurate. Okay, I'm doing swell. Thank 20 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: you very good. One's fine. All right, let's jump in. 21 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: Let's talk football. How are you doing? You know, that's 22 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: the first time anybody's ever done it? Right, We don't 23 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: spend it back to you. Thank you. I'm feeling fine. 24 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: I don't care for whatever that's worth. I really did. Yeah. Right, 25 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: that's that's new and novel and different. All right, let's talk. 26 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Cowboys. Let's get first into a 27 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: little bit news on DeMarcus Lawrence. Yesterday we heard found 28 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: out that he was a named Defensive Player of the 29 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: Week after his really good game last week versus the Cardinals. 30 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: And then today we find out nick Defensive Player of 31 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: the Month, Defensive Player of the month. They just keep 32 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: rolling in these awards. Don't you just see you're one 33 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: step away from Defensive Player of the year, are you? 34 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: I think he's a few steps away from defensive player 35 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: of the year. I mean weeks, months, year. Okay? You 36 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: are you? Is that what you're thinking is going to happen? Like? 37 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: Is that your hot take of the day. I mean 38 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: he's on paced, you know, for thirty five sacks in 39 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: the year, so the record is only twenty three twenty six. 40 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, twenty six. Yeah, he's on face for that. No, 41 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if he'll be a Defensive 42 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: Player of the Year, but we'll see. It's one of 43 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: those situations where like you're like, oh, he won Defensive 44 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: Player of the Week in the month, but like you 45 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: had the graphic made up for it yesterday because it's 46 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: that obvious. It's like, oh, what an honor. Of course 47 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: I am, but yeah, in other words, it wasn't made preseason, 48 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: Like this wasn't a graphic that was made preseason. Is 49 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: that what you're getting. No, I'm saying he's been so 50 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: damn good that we I mean, you know, Taylor and 51 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: Shannon hopefully had those graphics done way ahead of time, 52 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: because that mean it's obvious three sacks in a game 53 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: and three tackles for lost six point five sacks on 54 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: the season really should be seven. But whatever, either way, 55 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: it's not shocking to hear, is what I'm trying to say. Yeah, 56 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: good for him, really good for him, and hopefully he 57 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: can keep it up because the Cowboys really needed I 58 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: thought it was interesting yesterday when you guys made the 59 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: point that it's hard to find a unit on this 60 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: team that's better than the defensive line. And I think 61 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: obviously most of that, it's not hard. Good part is 62 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: about him. It's not hard to find it. You can't. 63 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: You can't objectively, with any basis of facts, say that 64 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: a unit on this team has been better than the 65 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 1: defensive line. It's a good point. Yeah there, I mean, 66 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: they've been phenomenal. Well, I will say this, and as 67 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: I did think about it a little bit last night, 68 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: I still think you probably a part of them being 69 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: run on in Denver was about that defensive line as well. So, 70 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: as you said after the Denver game, you can't just 71 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: pooh pooh that and just act like that didn't happen. 72 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: That's a significant thing. But everybody else sucked in that 73 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: game too, So relatively speaking, yeah, yeah, they had a 74 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: bad just because everyone was so bad. They've been way 75 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: better when they've been good, and just as bad when 76 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 1: they've been bad. Yeah, so they're better. All right, let's 77 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: get into some injury talk. Cowboys had I thought a 78 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: pretty positive injury report. Now, of course, yesterday was just 79 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: a walk through, glorified walkthrough, But Dave catch us up 80 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: on the injuries and who didn't practice and who did 81 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: practice on a limited basis it is a walkthrough, So 82 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,679 Speaker 1: I can't stress enough how I mean, if you've seen 83 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: the video of the morning walkthroughs an ox Nard, that's 84 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: what it looked like. Like guys are wearing backward hats. 85 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: Guys are kind of like half jogging in position. Can't 86 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: stress enough? How not like a real practice this was. 87 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: But the most encouraging thing of this entire situation is 88 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: that Jordan Lewis isn't even on the injury report, which 89 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: means he's fine or that's what it should mean. Yeah, 90 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: So that's what I've got my eye on. If he's 91 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: not even on the injury report on Wednesday, then I 92 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: fully expect him to play on Sunday, which is huge. 93 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: It's gigantic. Chittabey Woozier was limited, as was Nolan Carroll. Right, 94 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: feel better about Carroll since, I mean, I know that 95 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: your brain is super duper important, but it's not a 96 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: you know, a physical ailment that can hinder you from 97 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: moving around on a practice fields. And wouldn't you think 98 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: with concussions, you're if you're even in a walkthrough, you 99 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: don't want him doing anything if they still are showing signs, 100 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: if you've been cleared to go out and do football 101 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: things on a field. I assume that that's a very 102 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: positive sign for your moving in the right direction. Whereas cheeto. 103 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: Hamstrings are tricky, it's hard to really say, yeah, um, 104 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: Sean Lee was a DNP, which is you know, take 105 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: that for what it's worth. He said yesterday that he 106 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: feels optimistic that this isn't as bad as some other 107 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: hamstring injuries that he's had, but you and that goes 108 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: back to the conversation we had about Odell Beckham that 109 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that if he can find 110 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: a way, he's going to find a way and probably 111 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: shouldn't bet against him. But guy with an injury history 112 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: like Sean Lee on short week's rest because of Monday 113 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: Night football, I me, personally, I'm leaning towards just like, 114 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: let's try to get through a game without him and 115 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: not risk him, you know, risk losing him for further 116 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: weeks just because of one game. It's a tough game 117 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: to do it with that running back you're facing, but 118 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: sure is. But it's just it's just a thought that 119 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: I had when I saw that yesterday, I'm like, yeah, 120 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'd rather I'd rather not rush him 121 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: and have him healthy than try to wind up in 122 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: a situation where he's out for even more time. What 123 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: did they list Hitchens that he was limited? Hitchens's hitchensitive. 124 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 1: Hitchens ran scout team yesterday. That's positive, right, Oh yeah 125 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: again walk through. But he was out there doing football things. 126 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: He was part of an eleven on eleven situation, which 127 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: is news. So I like, after the buy for him, 128 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,799 Speaker 1: I leaned toward that. Yeah, but I mean that's only 129 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: two games away. That's not far and that's kind of 130 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: what the original thought was, that you kind of get 131 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: through the buy and then after that he should be back, right, Yeah, 132 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: I hope. So a linebacker situation looks we'll start looking 133 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: pretty good if if you can you know, if if 134 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: considering nothing would happen, I guess with Damien Wilson, I 135 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: can't imagine the NFL doing anything with that at this point. 136 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: But you know, with with you got Hitchings coming back, 137 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: Sean Lee and then obviously Jayalen Smith, just any kind 138 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: of rotation there, and they're starting to work Duran in 139 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: there a little bit more too. So a couple of 140 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: weeks ago, it looks really troublesome, but now it's getting better. 141 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: If they can get through this game with Sean Lee 142 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: or without him, or depending what happens. He's told a 143 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: few reporters in the locker room, he said, hamstrings, it's 144 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: one of those things. It's like neither it fires up 145 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: or it doesn't. I mean, it's not like it's you 146 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: can kind of limp around on it. I mean, if 147 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't go for you, then you can't do anything. 148 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 1: But he did, like Dave said, he said, I've had 149 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: worse ones than this. Yeah, And so I guess all 150 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: in all, when you look at the injury report, I 151 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: think there were a lot of positive things that the 152 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: Cowboys can at least be hopeful about moving forward. I 153 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: forgot to mention Stephen Pia sat out also. That's I 154 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: feel like that's just gonna be a thing that doesn't 155 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: completely go away for him. I've kind of put this 156 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: in the category of romo of you know Tyron Smith 157 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: last year, right. I just put this in the category 158 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: of it's one of those things where I just expect 159 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: to see Stephen pie on the injury list most of 160 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: the season, and if you don't, then then maybe that 161 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: means it that week he just feels great, but more 162 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: than likely just to manage him. It sounds like that's 163 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: going to be a normal thing, unless they and me speculating. 164 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: I don't know anything, but I guess they could sit 165 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: him down and do a Nyard thing, may designate him 166 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: to return if they wanted to, But as long as 167 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: he can keep managing it and playing every week, I 168 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: feel like they wouldn't want to do that. I guess. 169 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like this is something that's gonna go away. 170 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: It sounds like it's just thing. It's there, So I 171 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: don't know if I are necessary. If you signed him, 172 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: you kind of it. It's like a lot of football injuries, 173 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: like it would probably go away if you sat him 174 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: down for a couple of months to get it better. 175 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: But if he can, it's like, but wasn't this something 176 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: that he was struggling with in the past already? Right, 177 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: he had struggled with it in the past. But again, 178 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: it's kind of like it's like DeMarcus Lawrence's backs, Like 179 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: it's there and you could have surgery on it, or 180 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: you could do something with it to help it get better. 181 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: But if you can play, you're probably gonna play. I mean, 182 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: that's football really same thing. You know, you could sit 183 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith down for a few weeks in his back 184 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: would probably feel a lot better thinking back to last year. Yeah, 185 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: I I guess the point of what I'm saying, and 186 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: it sounds like what Amber's saying too, is that if 187 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: it's something that's a recurring thing that's been happening over time, 188 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: even if you sit him down, you'll get temporary relief, 189 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: but as soon as you start playing again, it's probably 190 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: gonna start nagging again. So just kind of manage it. 191 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: And it sounds like they're just gonna manage it by 192 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: giving him more rest and hopefully by Sundays every week 193 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: he's ready to go. Yeah, I guess I just go 194 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: back to thinking before he got here, he had a 195 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: whole offseason and it is still something that he's struggling with, 196 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: so and it might be a situation. We talked about 197 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: them needing roster spots for players, obviously for David Irving 198 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 1: next week. That's where I was trying to go with that. 199 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: But Brian Price, oh, I was thinking you could move 200 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: Pie down if you if his injuries that bad to 201 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: make that spot. Well, I don't think that they would. 202 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: I don't think they would. But what I'm saying is 203 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: is that cutting price, you know, just because you need 204 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 1: the spot. It's harder to get through a practice if 205 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: if Pie is not going to work with you every Wednesday. 206 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: So I mean, I mean, guys, I got on a 207 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: practice squad to play defensive tackle one Lewis Neil. I 208 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: don't think anyone would know that if they didn't go 209 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: to the College of choice. That is offensive and not 210 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: the practice. Lewis Neil kicked too much ascid training camp. 211 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: I know people to not know who he was, but 212 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: but you have to admit you know every single LSU 213 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: play in the NFL. Honestly, I probably don't. There's so 214 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: many of them. Not yes, oh wow, there's so many 215 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: of them. They led the league. You probably know, right, Yes, Okay, 216 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm a bit of a passionate LSU fan. I would 217 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: tell it a homer. But whatever it was like that 218 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: number might slow down a little bit. Maybe we'll see, um, 219 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: things aren't going well up there. Whatever. I'm just asking 220 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: Arkansas and Texas well, I'm asking I've never claimed that 221 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: things are going great in Austin. I'm just asking. You know, 222 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,599 Speaker 1: the jury's out right, Okay, Um, I think I could know. 223 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: I know, I can't name the whole practice squad because 224 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: I haven't learned the name of the linebacker they just signed, 225 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: Aravon Williams him, I don't think, and um, there's an 226 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: offensive there's an offensive lineman they signed recently who I 227 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: never bothered to learn his name either. But I think 228 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: I got the other eight showers. Yeah, Jamil's back, Brian Brown, 229 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: Lewis Neil. Um, I don't know the guys from camp. Well, 230 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: that's usually what you're practice seah, That's what I'm saying, Like, 231 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: those are guys you know, because you kind of saw 232 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: him play those other guys. It's kind of like hard 233 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: to really Yeah, you're like, okay, i'la all right, let's 234 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: move on. Let's talk a little bit about the Cowboys 235 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: offense versus the Rams defense. And Dave, I know you 236 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 1: were gonna watch the game last night or watch some 237 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: footage of this team last night and give us a 238 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: scouting reports. So what do you have? I did. I 239 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: did watch the Rams defense on tape last night, and 240 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: my main impression really is I'm sick of here in 241 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: the phrase three four defense, because I mean that's what 242 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: it is at the end of the day, but like, 243 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: that's not what it looks like when these guys play. 244 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: Like I watched the whole San Francisco game, so that's 245 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, And it's forty one thirty nine games, 246 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: so you're talking about seventy something defensive snaps. They got 247 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: four or five and six guys down on the line 248 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: like every snap. I mean, yeah, Aaron Donald Mike Brockers 249 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: are really like the key components of this. Like they're 250 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: the two guys that you can count on to be 251 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: down every single snap, but they move all over the place. 252 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: They play like Donald plays three technique, he plays one technique, 253 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: he plays five technique. Brockers plays zero technique, one technique, 254 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: three technique, and five techniques. So they're lining up everywhere 255 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: from the tackle to the guard to the center. You 256 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 1: got Robert Quinn who plays wide wide. It's like that 257 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: outside linebacker, but his hands on the ground more often 258 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: than not. The same thing goes for Coon Curse type. Yeah, 259 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: same thing goes for Connor Barwin, Like he's the outside linebacker, 260 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: but he lines up as an end way more often 261 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: than anything else. And then you have alec Ogletree who 262 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: is within three feet of the ball damn near every snap, 263 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: Like he's basically another lineman. They got a couple of 264 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: he's basically blitzing every play. Is that what I'm gonna 265 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get into that. Yeah. Not if he's not blitzing, 266 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: he's just down near the line. And honestly, from what 267 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: I watched, again, I'm not rot us. I didn't watch 268 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: every game. I just watched last week, but he's a blitzer. 269 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: He's an extra pass rusher because he's sure in't anything 270 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: that impressed me in pass coverage, that's for sure, and 271 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: honestly as a run stopper for that matter. I'll get 272 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: more into that. The big takeaway that I came away with, 273 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: And maybe this shouldn't be surprising for Wade Phillips's. These 274 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: guys are really aggressive, super duper aggressive. Like again, this 275 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: is a three four front. They send five and six 276 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: man rushes all the time like a lot. Brockers and 277 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: Donald are awesome, and they beat their man more often 278 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: than not. I think if Donald doesn't beat his man 279 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: and get into the backfield, it's because he didn't want 280 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: to or that was not his assignment on that play. 281 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: Because he does it all the time with ease, and 282 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: I think the ease with which should they do it 283 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: actually works against them because I swear to God so 284 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: many times they like overran the play to the point 285 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: where Harlow's hide has three guys in his face right 286 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: here and he just kind of cuts to the left 287 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: and there's green grass over here. That seemed like it 288 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: happened all the time. Alec Ogletree, if he wasn't blitzing, 289 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: he's down near the line. He gave up a thirty 290 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: four yard gain down the seam to the fullback, the 291 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: guy with the goofy name that I can't pronounce U. 292 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: But the forty nine Ers signed him move the offseason 293 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: from Baltimore. You guys, aren't you know not you're tight end? 294 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: You said, fullback? Oh, fullback? The forty nine Ers gave 295 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: a lucrative contract to a fullback. It's like jurishnick or 296 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: it's a weird name, you're a vicious Nope, not right. 297 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: Gave up a thirty four yard gain just really, in 298 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: my opinion, did not look super amazing in coverage. Again, 299 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: like I feel like their whole strategy is to get 300 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: to the quarterback and if they don't. It's it's not 301 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: gonna be pretty, and it's kind of successful honestly, because 302 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: they got four sacks on Brian Hoyer. They forced him 303 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: into an intercept and on the first play of the game. 304 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: But okay, so so here here are the stats that 305 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: kind of back up what I'm trying to say. They're 306 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: twenty second in the league in yards per game. They're 307 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: allowing one hundred and forty rushing yards per game, two 308 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: hundred and five passing yards per game, and they're twenty 309 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: sixth and scoring d largely off of giving up for 310 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: thirty nine to the forty nine ers. But for all 311 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: the talent they have, I just feel like they're aggressive 312 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: to the point that it's not disciplined. Like they give 313 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: they give up cut back lanes, they give up big gains. 314 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: Hoyer hit he hit Pierre Garson for fifty nine yards 315 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: one on one coverage against Tremaine Johnson. What else did 316 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: they give up? They gave up They gave up two 317 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: or three long gains, like right down the middle of 318 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: the field, and San Francisco had four drops on top 319 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: of that. Like, so the main thing I come away 320 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: with is that, yeah, these guys are super aggressive, they 321 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: and try to force you into a mistake. But in 322 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: doing so, I feel like they made a lot of mistakes. 323 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: They were penalized. The Rams were penalized seven times in 324 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: this game. Five of those came on defense, off sides, 325 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: off sides, too many men on the field, roughing the passer, 326 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: defensive pass interference, all of which are undisciplined, not smart penalties. 327 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: Roughing and the two off sides are results of trying 328 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: to get to the quarterback and trying to, you know, 329 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: make a statement with your pass rush. Um, going back 330 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: to our conversation yesterday. Sorry if I'm ready, Um, there 331 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: is a lot of talent here. Wait, Like I mean, 332 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: the Rams have been mediocre to bad for more than 333 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: a decade, so that's to be expected. But Rockers is 334 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: twelfth overall. Donald is fourteenth overall. Robert backs is that 335 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: what you go? Picks? Okay, gotcha? Sorry? Robert Quinn is 336 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: eleventh overall. Ogletree is thirteenth overall. Mark Baron. Mark Baron 337 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: is a safety who's he's their linebacker BAMA former buccaneer. 338 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: He's traded to the Rams. Um Truemain Johnson right seventh overall. 339 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: True that uh same draft as Mo, and he was 340 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: better than Mo and Brockers was and you just kind 341 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: of remember the guy I remember about the Brockers, Yeah, 342 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: that were better than him. Truemaine Johnson, who's their big, 343 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: feisty uh six three corner. He's starting a lot of 344 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: crap when they practiced together at training camp. If you 345 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: remember that a couple of years ago, where was he drafted. 346 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: He's a third round pick. Um LaMarcus Joyner is their 347 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: their main safety out of Florida State. He's a second 348 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: round pick. So they got Yeah, they've got they got talent, 349 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: and they they can do a lot of impressive stuff 350 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: with it. Like I can't I can't express how impressive, 351 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: particularly Brockers and Donald Ark, like they do whatever they 352 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: want most of the time. But again, I feel like 353 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: you can take advantage of a lot of that, and 354 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: like all I was thinking about while I was watching 355 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: this was like, oh, Dak can kill these guys with 356 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: play action and stuff like that, because especially like the 357 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: boot actions and the waggles and stuff like that, where 358 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: you get the whole defense going one way and bring 359 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: it back like they weren't ready for that on any level. 360 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: When Brian Hoyer was doing it, and that's Brian Hoyer. 361 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: That's without the talent that he has around him as well. 362 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: Exactly like you know, I thought I said last week, 363 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: Arizona was really aggressive, but they were disciplined. These guys, 364 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: I just feel like they want to hit you and 365 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: make a statement and worry about the rest of it later. 366 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: Like it seems like just not a very disciplined group. 367 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: Now it has turned into for them, it has turned 368 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: into ten sacks, which they are now sixth in the 369 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: NFL in sacks. And I guess the big question from 370 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: that is do you think the Cowboys can take this 371 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: aggressiveness or will take this aggressiveness and use it against him? 372 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: What does that ten? Or do you think that'll be 373 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: a problem for this offense. Well, I think that it'll 374 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: be both. I mean it'll be a problem because you know, 375 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: they'll catch them on times when they're not ready and 376 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: they'll probably get a few sacks here and there. But 377 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: it's just like that game in twenty fourteen, if you 378 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: remember that they got up twenty one to nothing. I 379 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: mean that their aggressiveness from generas Jenkins at the time 380 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: got a pick six interception, but his aggressiveness also led 381 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: to a touchdown by Dez Bryant that got him back 382 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: in the game and turn things around, So you know, 383 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: aggressiveness will work both ways. I think what's interesting is that, 384 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: you know, obviously you talk about Wade Phillips wanting to 385 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: come in here and probably do some great things against 386 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: the Cowboys as a former coach, But let's not forget 387 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: that that Scott Lenahan on the other side of the ball, 388 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: also coached the Rams as a head coach didn't work 389 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: out as well. Might have something to prove too, even 390 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: though these aren't the same Rams, same city or anything. 391 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: But I still I guarantee it will be a nice 392 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: chess match between Lanahan and Wade Phillips. All Right, we're 393 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: gonna take our first break. When we come back, I'm 394 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: gonna ask the question, Dave. I heard you talking about 395 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: how these particularly the particularly Brockers and Aaron Donald move 396 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: around quite a bit, and I'm gonna ask the question, 397 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: do you think that this can create a problem for 398 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: the Cowboys seeing as though they can now try to 399 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: use those guys to exploit the weaker links of that 400 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: offensive line. We'll talk about that when we come back. 401 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: This is Dallas Cowboys dot com Radio. 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It's the second segment 448 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: of The Break live from the SWBC Mortgage studios at 449 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: the Star, and we're talking about the Cowboys offense versus 450 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: the Rams defense. Dave gave us a good breakdown there, 451 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: and Dave, one of the things that you talked about 452 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: is how they tend to move around Michael Brocker's and 453 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald two of their better players, right, baby, two 454 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: of the best players they have on defense. I would 455 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: say definitely. And so my question is this offensive line. 456 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: The Cowboys offensive line, We've talked a lot about it. 457 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: There are two guys that are kind of new to 458 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: their positions and so when I call them weaker links. 459 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: It's not so much that I think they're bad players, 460 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: and I want to be clear about that. It's more 461 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: about the fact that they are new to their positions 462 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: in this offensive line and they're being compared to guys 463 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: that are all pros in the other three positions, which 464 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: is also called a weaker link. That's okay, I know, 465 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: I know, but I don't want it to be you know, 466 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: it can be construed as you're saying, well, they're a bum, 467 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: and I don't think that. I think they've actually played 468 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: as well as the rest of the guys on that 469 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: offensive line for the most part, because I think that 470 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: game they played in Denver, you're all pros. We're having 471 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,479 Speaker 1: some right. So so all that being said, all I'm 472 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: saying is do you think that with those two guys 473 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: particularly and being as good at players as they are, 474 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: and because they can move around and play a lot 475 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: of different positions, do you think that this creates an 476 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: opportunity for them to exploit those weaker links more than 477 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: say another team that wouldn't have that flexibility across their 478 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: defensive front. Yes. And if you're a fan of line play, 479 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: I highly encourage you to get yourself a copy of 480 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: game Pass and watched like all twenty two of these 481 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: guys play, because it's really fun. Like, like I told you, 482 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: where all they line up. But you think of defensive 483 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: tackles as being like basically unathletic guys who just clog 484 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: up the middle and try to force their way into 485 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: the backfield. These dudes are athletic. Like you're talking about 486 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: your two main defensive tackles running twist stunts. They ran 487 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: a twist stunt where they were both lined up at 488 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: five techniques so on the tackle, and they crossed each 489 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: other and rushed on the opposite tackle. Wait, they were 490 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: on the outside, both of them on the outside on 491 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: the other side. Donald has lined up on the inside 492 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: shoulder of the left tackle and Brockers has lined up 493 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,239 Speaker 1: on the inside shoulder of the right tackle. And they 494 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: stunt and reverse and go at the other guy. And 495 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 1: they were fast enough that they did it and it worked. 496 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't even fathom that. I don't think. 497 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: I don't think essional game I don't think they didn't 498 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: get a sack on the play, but like they got 499 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: pressure and I saw it and I had to go 500 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: back and watch it, like four task because everybody was confused, 501 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: like I thought he was on the other side. How 502 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: did he get over here? So saying, and then but 503 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: they can also, you know, they'll they'll play on Frederick, 504 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: They'll play on Martin, They'll definitely play on Chaz Green. 505 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure they won't be I mean, they're not afraid 506 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: of the matchup an whatsoever. I mean, everybody will have 507 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: their hands full with these guys. And then on top 508 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: of that, I mean, you know Lyle Collins, you know 509 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: he's had his hands full on the right side throughout 510 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: the season of this point. I don't you know, Connor 511 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: Barwin doesn't strike fear in your heart the way that 512 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: von Miller does, but he's been very productive. He had 513 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: a sack in this last game. I think a lot 514 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: of that has to do with the attention that these 515 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: other guys get. I mean, Robert Quinn had an eighteen 516 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: or nineteen sacks season not all that long ago. So 517 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: you're talking about guys who command a lot of respect 518 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: and a lot of attention, and I think Barwin benefits 519 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: from that. So I think I think Lyle is going 520 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 1: to have his hands full dealing with him as well 521 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: as these other guys because The point I'm trying to 522 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: make is that they can all line up anywhere. And 523 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: going back to my original point from the very beginning 524 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 1: is yeah, they call it a three four, but they 525 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: basically play permanently in nickel because you got your down linemen, 526 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: then you bring in your linebackers. Mark Baron and Ogletree 527 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: are only they're the only true linebackers that are ever 528 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: on the field. So you're usually talking about at least four, 529 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: if not five, guys that are trying to get to 530 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 1: the passers. So offensive line is going to have its 531 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: work cutout. It's like a huge game for Beasley. That's 532 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: what it seems like to me. Well, yeah, actually, I 533 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: was actually gonna go there next because it sounds like 534 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: the strength of this defense is the front and if 535 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: that's the case, then it sounds like there's an opportunity 536 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: here in the passing game. Do you guys agree with that? 537 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: So who is the guy you said bast for you? 538 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: Who's that guy that you think has to show up 539 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: this week and make plays for them from it seems 540 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: like if there is a lot of pressure, you know 541 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a situation where you know you'll see 542 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: they'll be a nickel where they they'll play a deep 543 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: but they're gonna make sure and prevent the big play. 544 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: But it seems like the middle, the underneath stuff will 545 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: be there, and that's where Beasley and Winton and those 546 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: guys really do their work. So I'd like to see them, 547 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: you know, I think cold Beasley's gonna bounce back, and 548 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 1: he didn't have a bad game, but he just wasn't 549 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: targeted a lot. But I think that you'll see that 550 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: this will be a game for him. I agree with that. 551 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: I also I didn't come away from this impressed with 552 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: Trumaine Johnson. He's a big guy, he's aggressive, he's physical. 553 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: If he gets his hands on you, he's probably gonna 554 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: tackle you. But he's I didn't I don't look at 555 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: him as like a shutdown corner. I mean, Pierre Garson 556 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: had a nice night in this game. He had a 557 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: couple of big gainers. He had a couple of plays 558 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: where he was left uncovered for one reason or another. 559 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: So I'm looking at this this will be the easiest 560 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: matchup that Dez Bryant has by far through four weeks. 561 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he's going to have one hundred 562 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: and fifty yards or something crazy like that. But it 563 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: should be far easier for him to get favorable looks 564 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: in this game than it has been. I think. Can 565 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: I say something, No, I was I was coming to you. 566 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, thank you, thank you. 567 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: Now I was just gonna say I'm really not impressed 568 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: by their defense. I'm not worried about it either. I 569 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: know how you talked about a lot of these guys, 570 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: and I do agree that they do have a lot 571 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: of talent, but I don't think they've done enough with it. 572 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: I don't think they've been as productive. I was looking 573 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: at all the stats and just kind of comparing with 574 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: the guys we have on our defense, and what they've 575 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: done has been fairly similar to what the Cowboys have 576 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: done so far. And I think we can all agree 577 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: they haven't been impressive the Cowboys, aside from the defensive line, 578 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: which they the Rams don't have or havn't done nearly 579 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: as much as what our guys have done. Like DeMarcus Lawrence, 580 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: which obviously we really know he's like the top guy 581 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: right now, but as well as Malie Collins, so number 582 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: wise and production wise, they just haven't done much to 583 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: where um, I mean two words. Well, the one thing 584 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: I will point out here is that Aaron Donald missed 585 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: all training camp. He had a holdout, and so he's 586 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: having to kind of work himself into shape. And if 587 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: you go back and look at how he performed last year, 588 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: I don't think there's many people that would say that productively, 589 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: he's not every bit as good, if not better than 590 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: any defensive tackle you probably want to point to in 591 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: the NFL, including Malie Collins. Right, he is up there 592 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: as one of the premier guys, so productively, I hear 593 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: your point, but I think it's a little bit to 594 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: that to looking at his statistics right now, that maybe 595 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: a little MISSI I agree, because he's having to work 596 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: in Yeah, yeah, I definitely agree. The one thing, it's like, 597 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet, so I'm I'm good as 598 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: of right now until I see it. And I don't 599 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: think it'll be a problem if I mean, it'll be 600 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: something that they'll face and they'll have a little bit 601 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: of struggle there, but nothing that will make them lose 602 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: the game. I actually I agree, and I mean I 603 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: came in here and I still believe this, But I 604 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: came in here and said, you know, these aren't your 605 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: older brothers, Rams. They're way more talented than that. This 606 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: isn't a team you can write off. I still think 607 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: that's true. But for the talent they have here, the 608 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: production doesn't doesn't do it justice. And maybe you know 609 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald's two weeks in system and one of the 610 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: more complicated systems in football. If if players are to 611 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: be believed about Wade Field's defense, so maybe that's part 612 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: of it. The forty nine ers big boyed them twice. 613 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: They went forward on fourth and goal from the one 614 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: twice and scored on scored touchdowns on both plays. Both 615 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: just runs to Carlos hide where they knock them over 616 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: and score a touchdown. It's a good sign for the Cowboys. 617 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: So and like I said, I mean, the secondary did 618 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: not impress me in this game. There's a lot of 619 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: talent here. I did think it was interesting. So this game, 620 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers scored to make it forty one thirty nine. 621 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: They don't get the two point conversion, they recover the 622 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: on side kick and then they so they go into 623 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: a possession where they're near midfield with a chance to 624 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: go down and win the game. Aaron Donald just destroys 625 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: his man, forces an incompletion right away, they send five, 626 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: and the Niners run a screen that they sniff out 627 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: immediately zone coverage on third and long. And then the 628 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: last play of the game, which is like a fourth 629 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: and eighteen after a questionable offensive pass interference call, but 630 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: still Aaron Donald blows his man up and sacks Brian 631 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: Hoyer in the game. So when the chips are down, 632 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: especially if you're in a situation where you have to 633 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: throw the ball, that could be bad news, as it 634 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: is with most really good defensive climate right. But I 635 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: do think there's plenty here that the Cowboys should be 636 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: able to take advantage of. And you talk about Zekiel 637 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: Elliott being great at cutting back and moving in open space, 638 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: I think their aggressiveness should play right into him. Like, 639 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: I think there are plays to be made against these guys. 640 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: This sounds like a lot like the game last year 641 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: against the Bengals a week about the same time of 642 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: the year, Week four, Week five, they walk. They came in. 643 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: The Bengals were I think at the time, like the 644 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: best defensive line in football, yeah, and that they weren't 645 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: allowing anything. And I think the Cowboys oh line took 646 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: it as a big challenge and they won obviously. And 647 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: you know, Zeke's running sixty yards right through the middle 648 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: of the defense, and so I just think this is 649 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: this is one of those type of games where I'll 650 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: be it'll be big on big, It'll be some really 651 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: good talented players that the Rams have drafted to change 652 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: their defensive line. The Cowboys drafted some really good offensive 653 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: linemen to try to change with their line, and then 654 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: this is kind of what you'll get. It'll be it'll 655 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: be one on right there, mano Imano. Yeah, strength, I 656 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: don't know who. I don't know who. They were dominating, 657 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: that's what's you said. That Like, in a one minute 658 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,439 Speaker 1: span on the fourth and one when they really needed 659 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 1: to stop their offensive line, that from the Niners dominated them. 660 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: But a fourth and seventeen eighteen they couldn't. They got 661 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: dominated on the other end. So it sounds like speed 662 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: and quickness, it's their strength. They can kind of get 663 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: there when it's big on big and pushing people off 664 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: the ball. That hasn't really been the Cowboys strength though, 665 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: knocking people back. So I would say this last year 666 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: when they were in you know, short yard of situations, 667 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 1: they were pretty good at it, So I guess that 668 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 1: kind of fits right Leary. Huh with Leary? Okay, yeah, 669 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: you're saying without Leary, it's a whole different thing. That's 670 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: nixt guy. Yeah right. I would hate to think that 671 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: the left guard can make that much of a difference. Sorry, Nate, 672 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: but I just think that something there's something here. He 673 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: really wasn't the guy in twenty fifteen. He was the 674 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: guy in twenty sixteen, and then now he's not in 675 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and we just they haven't been as good 676 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: short yardage. Well, we have enough of a sample now 677 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: we don't know that, not yet, but we're getting there. 678 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: I mean two and a half years. I almost no, no, no, 679 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying this season with with you got Chazz, and 680 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: now I don't know that we've had enough of a 681 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: samplifize in short yardists to say that they can't do 682 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: it well this year. Were you not arguing a training 683 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: camp that one guy wouldn't make a difference in this 684 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: offensive line? That would have been me. I was arguing me, Yeah, 685 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: you were. I think it was me. I know it 686 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: was me. I know, I said the Ron Leary fan club, 687 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: So it was I definitely was on that that it's 688 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: not because to me, I look at it and I say, 689 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: if you got that talented, if those other guys play 690 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: up to the level that we expect them to, then 691 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: a left guard should not be able to platoon this thing. Yeah, 692 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: I just don't think that's And I somewhat agree with 693 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: that as well. I mean, I do agree that one 694 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: position on the line's not going to change a whole lot. 695 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: But when it gets down to third and short, fourth 696 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: and short and you really need to knock people off 697 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: the ball, I'm behind him. I think, run behind him. 698 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: They've done okay, But I do think we clearly have 699 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: seen a change compared to what they We don't have 700 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: enough aside. It's been three games, really really good. Okay, 701 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: from what we've seen, we have seen a change that 702 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think. Schedule, huh, is there 703 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: any bad defenses on the schedule? I mean, Giants, Broncos, Arizona, 704 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: they didn't have a great defense. Yeah they're kind of man, 705 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: we'll see you next week then. Yeah. It seems like 706 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: every team's got this great defense up front. Atlanta's not 707 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: a great defense or whatever. It's undert we're in that 708 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: score a ton of points. That doesn't really matter, right. 709 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: Dak said yesterday that he thought these first three defenses 710 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: were about as hard as it's gonna get, which I 711 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: don't know him. I will say this, though, Battle hasn't 712 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: played as well as they've played in the past, Like 713 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: they've had some games this year where their defense has 714 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: given up a lot more points than your typically. I'm 715 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: not even doing trying to worry about Christmas Eve right now, 716 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: September twenty starget Christmas shopping. I have not I won't 717 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: be home for Christmas, so I don't even need to 718 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: do any Christmas good point. Oh so just because you're 719 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: not there, It's like I don't need to have a 720 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: present for my parents, Like I'm not going to be there, 721 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: so why do you need a present? You just gave 722 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: me life much. Yeah, it's awesome. You're so sorry Mom 723 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: and dad. You're a great son. I'll get them something, 724 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: all right. Let's take our final break camp, Yeah exactly, 725 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: let's take our final break. We'll come back. We'll get 726 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: some questions. 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Back to the break, Hey, Nick, 763 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 1: What's what's one of the most important components of football? 764 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: Um scoring points? I was thinking more about ball security. Okay, 765 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: speaking of ball security, Tommy John underwear, I think goes 766 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: hand in hand. He goes hand in hand. Uh, it's 767 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: very comfortable, it's very secure. Feels like you're wearing nothing 768 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: at all, but really keeps everything in order. I'm actually 769 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: wearing the promotional pair that I got yesterday right now, 770 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,479 Speaker 1: and I'm very satisfied and very comfortable. Promotional pair. Yeah, 771 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: you mean like they gave it to people that actually 772 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,439 Speaker 1: do reads and stuff. They well, most of us, people 773 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: that they care about. Yeah, people that they feel like 774 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: we're like family. Your package is in the mail, I'm sure, 775 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 1: and I package, I package is secure. This is so 776 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: I love that every day. Was that better than put 777 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 1: Tommy John on your end zone underwearth we hadn't talked 778 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: about that part of it on your Yeah, don't forget 779 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 1: about the tush. Yeah, it's a fantastic product. And I'll 780 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: say whatever ridiculous stuff they want if they keep sending, Yeah, 781 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: keep sending them because they're actually very comfortable and I 782 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: actually enjoy wearing them. So anyway, and where you got 783 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: anything to chime in on that one? I see you? 784 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 1: All right, I'm biting my tongue. Just stop, okay, all right, 785 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,399 Speaker 1: let's let's move on. Let's get some questions. You guys 786 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: call us the numbers two one four eight seven two 787 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: twenty one O two. You can also hit us on 788 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: at Cowboys break. Let's get a Let's get a question 789 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: from Twitter Amber. Has Jordan Lewis jumped Nolan Carroll on 790 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: the depth chart because of his recent play? We know 791 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 1: Carol is right now, it's looking like we're gonna know question. 792 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: Would you start him right now? If both are healthy? 793 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: Would you start Jordan Lewis over Nolan Carroll? It is 794 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: all sample size, but I think so. I think so too. 795 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: But now we're getting into what the cowboys would do, 796 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: right I don't care what the cowboys are doing. I'm 797 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: asking what you would do, But don't you want to 798 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: know what's more likely to happen? Yeah, kind of, but 799 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: they just don't. They just don't do that because there's 800 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 1: no need for it. There's Jordan Lewis, is this young 801 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: guy that that's had some injury concerns too, and you 802 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: know he's just just stay hungry, you know. Okay, this 803 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: is the way it works. And Nolan Carroll comes back 804 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: in and he got hurt and because he you know, 805 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a long leash, but I think 806 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 1: no one Carroll would come back to his spot if 807 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: he had another game, Like the part of the game 808 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: before he got injured in Denver. Do you think at 809 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: that point the Cowboys, I'm just gonna talking about them, 810 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 1: you think they would make that move at that point, 811 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: They've got to make some roster moves here and and 812 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: that just took the show with a whole different direction. 813 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 1: We don't we don't even go there. We don't need 814 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: It's really easy, huh, that really is actually just do it. 815 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 1: But again again, okay what you would do versus what 816 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, right, But what I'm saying is is that 817 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: I don't think Nolan Carroll would be completely safe from 818 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: that in my opinion, really like as in they would 819 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: just outright cut him. I mean, Cheeto to be healthy, 820 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: I need strides from Mark Marquez White on the practice squad, 821 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,879 Speaker 1: just just not necessarily to bring him up. But if 822 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: you need it, about it maybe, But does it have 823 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,879 Speaker 1: anything to do with how well benabin Wickery can play? 824 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,919 Speaker 1: Does this play? I mean, but I'm saying, I'm saying, 825 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: if you're thought, if you're talking about the possibiliar Carroll 826 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: going away, that you kind of want that vet that's 827 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 1: gonna be here with Orlando to be I mean, I mean, 828 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna cut ben A before you cut Carol, I 829 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: don't and I mean I see the logic, but I 830 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 1: just don't think they would cut no Carol, not in season. 831 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: He's a veteran. May if if Jordan Lewis had played 832 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 1: all of training camp and had just whooped him and 833 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: totally claimed that job. Maybe, But you're in season now, 834 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,839 Speaker 1: where anything can happen week to week. I mean, they're 835 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 1: already dealing with injuries, and the thought of cutting one 836 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: of two guys that has really been through the grind 837 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 1: of an NFL season over and over again, a veteran guy, Yeah, 838 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 1: it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. That's 839 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's not you know, he's got like 840 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: three million and guarantees or something like that. It's not 841 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 1: even like this is some big obnoxious contract that you 842 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 1: you know, that you have to get off the books. 843 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that makes a ton of sense now 844 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: that you're playing week to week. But you know, and 845 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: I agree with Nick, the Cowboys are always more likely 846 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 1: to lean toward the veteran in a situation like this, 847 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: in my opinion. But if he gets back in the 848 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 1: lineup and looks as bad as he did in Denver. 849 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: I mean, once it's hindering your ability to play a 850 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 1: good defense, they'll that's not a long leash at all. 851 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: All right, let's get a phone call from Jorge in 852 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:59,479 Speaker 1: Mexico City or Hey, what up guys? Hey, Well, first 853 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: of all, want to say Amber, we gave a great 854 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 1: Latino touch the Verter. We just make it even better. 855 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 1: Thank you. Now to get to football, I have a 856 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: comment in the question. The comment is you carting the 857 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 1: play calling with Scott Linehan. I know Dak's a really, 858 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: really good quarterback. I know it's gonna be great some day, 859 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: but I just feel you still learning, still developing, And 860 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: I feel like the play calling they're taking is like 861 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: they want to make some a pure, pure pocket catch, 862 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,959 Speaker 1: which I think it's not radiot. I mean, he's gonna 863 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 1: be rady today, but it's things that should get back 864 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 1: to what they did Latin in the first team, with 865 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: the boots, the waggles, you can seat. I mean, he's 866 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: a mobile quarterbacks and uh, I feel like the decent 867 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,320 Speaker 1: sets are are challenging us to to make some pocket tatters. 868 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 1: But I mean they're they're they're getting the best of us. 869 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: And my question is and then you guys get to 870 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: the ton, But uh, are we still sure that we 871 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 1: like called layout Collins were right tackles? Can we just 872 00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:01,359 Speaker 1: go back to what we did in twenty fifteen? Guard 873 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: over to the cycle decisions? All right, thanks for the call. 874 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 1: First of all, let's still go back to anything from 875 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. Let's let's don't do anything about twenty fifteen 876 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,839 Speaker 1: to go back to UM you know with their four 877 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 1: win season. They're already halfway there with two wins, So 878 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: I that sounded good. But then who's your right tackle? Well, 879 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 1: he's saying, kick Chaz back out. But here's deal, it's 880 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. Guys, that's not gonna happen this season 881 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 1: that we're gonna happen. That's an offseason thing. They are 882 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 1: unless there's injuries. They are set that Lyle Collins is 883 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 1: going to be their right tackle and Chaz Green is 884 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 1: going to be their left guard. The way that you 885 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 1: say that, though, is kind of like, well, they're not 886 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,879 Speaker 1: gonna cut Kellen Moore. Like you, you think it should happen, 887 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 1: but it won't, and I disagree because you made this decision. 888 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: We answered this in the mailback this morning. Actually, like 889 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: you made this decision. We all said heading into the 890 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,320 Speaker 1: season that Lyle would probably have his growing pains and 891 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 1: not be an all pro from the get right. That 892 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 1: has played out fletely to form. He hasn't been terrible, 893 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: he hasn't been great. He's had his struggles, he's had 894 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: his wins again. But again, when you're you're into the 895 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 1: season now, where you're playing a game every sixth day, 896 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 1: why are you trying to shuffle this thing. You're only 897 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 1: going to get better by giving these guys reps where 898 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 1: they are. That's the only way this is gonna work. 899 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 1: And it hasn't been as good as last year. And 900 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 1: I think that troubles people because it's a lot of 901 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 1: fun when you're dominating the way that they did last year. 902 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: But they haven't been bad by any stretch of the imagination. 903 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 1: They just they've been okay. And just to be clear, 904 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 1: I wasn't saying they should but they won't. I was okay, 905 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 1: I was saying they should not and they won't. You're wording, 906 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 1: I believe you're wording made it sound like you were 907 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 1: saying they should, but they won't. No, no, And I 908 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 1: guess the reason why I was kind of coming off 909 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: like that is because I was trying to express to 910 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 1: him that this is kind of a moot point. For 911 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: those people that are out there that believe like him, 912 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 1: it's a moot point. They're not going to do that. 913 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense and how NFL teams are run. 914 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 1: But if you think about it logically, that's not the 915 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 1: smart call at this point. I mean, if you get 916 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 1: through the whole season and then you decide that this 917 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 1: really probably isn't going to work long term, come talk 918 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,879 Speaker 1: to me. But I think this thing is playing out 919 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: exactly how you probably thought it should or you should 920 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: have thought it, yeah, which is that these two guys 921 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 1: are having their growing pains, but they're getting the job 922 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: done more often than not, and they'll get better with 923 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 1: playing time. I don't think shuffling the lineup and hoping 924 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,360 Speaker 1: that it's magically better is the right way to do it. 925 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,840 Speaker 1: The first part of that, I think that it was 926 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:29,360 Speaker 1: a good that's a good observation about Dak and what 927 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 1: they're doing with him in the pocket. And yes, they 928 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 1: are trying to do that, and it's not just to 929 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 1: try to develop him from that standpoint to be a 930 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: good pocket passer. It's because that will help the offense 931 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 1: if he can stand in there and make some throws. 932 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 1: And I think he's shown that he can do that. 933 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,840 Speaker 1: But in that game against the Cardinals, it was clear 934 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 1: that they had to move him. He needed to move 935 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 1: to make plays. He needed to run. All of the 936 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 1: touchdowns or three other than the one with Dak, I 937 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: mean with Zeke, but the three touchdowns were a product 938 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,800 Speaker 1: of his legs. He was rolling right throwing or running 939 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 1: and flipping into the end zone. I think that they 940 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 1: kind of realized that in that game, and I think 941 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 1: you'll see a little bit more of that. Something else 942 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 1: I would throw in. And this isn't me trying to 943 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,879 Speaker 1: be amateur scout. This is from conversations I've had here 944 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,840 Speaker 1: with people. It's harder to do that type of stuff 945 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,320 Speaker 1: when you're playing three or four teams. You're talking about 946 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 1: outside linebackers that play like why to the title, they 947 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 1: played disciplined, and they're gonna be there every time. You're 948 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 1: gonna be right in your quarterback's face when he's trying 949 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 1: to do that stuff. And you've seen it play out 950 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 1: so far this season, even and it's worked a couple 951 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 1: of times. But when Dak has done those actions. He's 952 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 1: had guys in his face from the get Yeah, some 953 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 1: of that it happened against Arizona too. Like I said, 954 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 1: sometimes the players still worked, but it's not like it 955 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,360 Speaker 1: was really faking anybody out. So I think, you know, 956 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 1: I think you'll still see it, and I think it'll 957 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 1: work better when they play some more traditional style defenses. Yeah, 958 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 1: and I think that that run that he had, that 959 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: the touchdown run, to me, that's more kind of what 960 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 1: you want to do if you're gonna use him with 961 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 1: his legs. Is it's it's not always going to work 962 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 1: on the boots, like you said, when you got a 963 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 1: team that either it's really fast or they're keeping somebody 964 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 1: in to kind of spy him. I think in those 965 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 1: kind of situations, you gotta get from point A to 966 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 1: point being the fastest way you can, which is a 967 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,839 Speaker 1: straight line, and so you fake the run and then 968 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: you just let him take off, take off into a 969 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 1: hole that he sees, rather than having to boot out 970 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 1: to the outside where the defender can then float out 971 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 1: there with him. So I think they just got to 972 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 1: mix it up and give a good mixture. And I 973 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 1: think if they do that and use his legs not 974 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 1: all the time, but use his legs in good situations. 975 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 1: And I think there's a way to make this, make 976 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 1: this thing better and make him more effective as a quarterback. 977 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 1: What helps the Cowboys probably promability to She was just 978 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: throwing her. Is that the question that you're asking throwing 979 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 1: the collar? I said something I understand Amber, Like I 980 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,280 Speaker 1: don't speak Spanish, but I know what she's the Amber whisperer. 981 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,160 Speaker 1: It's just because I do those videos with her after 982 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 1: the games. I will say this when I'm editing those 983 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 1: videos and I'm postgame with Dave, I'll be speaking Spanish 984 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 1: and he's like, he'll make facial expression. Is that it's 985 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,360 Speaker 1: all context clues, Like you can you pick out a 986 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 1: word or like, you know, like the word Mexico is 987 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 1: the same in Spanish and English, Like you pick that out? 988 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 1: Shut up? Context clues. You can figure out a sentence 989 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 1: in another language if you can understand like three words. Anyways, 990 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 1: it's pretty good. And see miss Brian brought us that 991 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,719 Speaker 1: I can work. Well, are you saying that I'm not 992 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 1: good when I'm done that? Oh? Like, like I don't 993 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 1: have the experience of listening to that. It's a great point. Apparently, 994 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 1: not because you have no clue what I say. Anyway, 995 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 1: if you put me on camera, I'd be able to 996 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 1: do it. Don't ask me to do videos with you, 997 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,759 Speaker 1: so you're too busy like figuring out how do they 998 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 1: making sure I'm good at it? Though? Right? No? No, okay, guy? 999 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,359 Speaker 1: So what helps the Cowboys probability to win? Converting third 1000 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 1: downs to keep the chains moving or red zone efficiency? 1001 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: They've been pretty bad at converting third downs, haven't they. 1002 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 1: I don't know about for the season. Yes, Denver game 1003 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,799 Speaker 1: they were horrible. Now we're focusing in this coming yet, 1004 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 1: but I'm saying just as a train third and long. 1005 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 1: They were two and nine. What's what's third and long 1006 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,919 Speaker 1: in the NFL? Like a third and lungs at ten? 1007 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 1: I thought third and seven or eight six or more? Yeah, 1008 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 1: you know what? They're converting on third and long like 1009 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 1: the percentage wise six percent awful, six percent last than 1010 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 1: the league two for nine on third down against Arizona 1011 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 1: two for nine and that was their best game of 1012 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 1: the seat. Well, I don't guess. That just means on 1013 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,960 Speaker 1: first down they're not really running the ball very well. 1014 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:46,319 Speaker 1: First down, second down, they're getting behind the change, does it? Yes, 1015 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 1: because well, but because if they get in third one, 1016 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,279 Speaker 1: third and two, it's more manageable. They can get these 1017 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,239 Speaker 1: but they're not. They're not getting to third and one 1018 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 1: and third and two that's the times they get to 1019 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,319 Speaker 1: third down. If they're converting second downs more frequently, then 1020 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,439 Speaker 1: I'm saying they're not running the ball well to start 1021 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: it off, they're they're getting themselves behind the chains early 1022 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,799 Speaker 1: in the in the down and distance, and then it's 1023 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 1: the next thing you know, it's third and ten, third 1024 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,719 Speaker 1: and eleven. It's not working. I completely agree. So, but 1025 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:19,719 Speaker 1: to answer the question, um, it's it's more important to 1026 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,160 Speaker 1: move the chains on third down. It's more important than 1027 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 1: it is in red zone. I think because you can 1028 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 1: always kick a field goal and you're going to make it. 1029 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,800 Speaker 1: Let's so, if you don't get it on third and 1030 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 1: four from midfield, then you have to punt. If you 1031 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 1: don't get it on with the nineteen yard line, you 1032 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 1: kick a field goal. I think that's eric you don't 1033 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 1: never get to the nineteen. No, I mean, I don't 1034 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 1: think that that one necessarily necessitates the other. Yeah, I 1035 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,560 Speaker 1: think that, yes, they both are problems for them right now. 1036 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 1: First down is a problem for them right now. Third 1037 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,399 Speaker 1: down is a problem for them right now. I don't 1038 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:54,439 Speaker 1: know that first down necessarily equates to always to third 1039 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,360 Speaker 1: down success. So I don't know if I agree with 1040 00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:58,880 Speaker 1: that part of it, but I get your gist, and 1041 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 1: that's why I didn't really argue to because first to 1042 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,279 Speaker 1: get you just a first and tend to start the 1043 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 1: game Zeke for negative one second and eleven, Zeke for one, 1044 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 1: so you're in third and ten. Next possession, Zeke up 1045 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,280 Speaker 1: the middle for negative three. Second and thirteen pass incomplete, 1046 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 1: so you're in third and thirteen. Next drive, first and 1047 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 1: ten offsides brings you to first and five. Zeke runs 1048 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,600 Speaker 1: on first and five for no gain incomplete. They converted 1049 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 1: that probably because it was second and five, first and 1050 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 1: ten complete, the terrence for eight, Zeke up the middle 1051 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,360 Speaker 1: for one, and then that third and one Zeke busts 1052 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 1: a thirty yard game. They haven't been great on first down, 1053 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 1: and I agree with that. That's why I just said. 1054 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 1: I just said there's they have a problem on first down, 1055 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 1: they also have a problem on third down. One doesn't 1056 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,040 Speaker 1: necessarily cause the others. What I'm saying, there's not a 1057 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 1: causal relationship between the two. If they don't get at 1058 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,759 Speaker 1: least like three yards on first down. I'm calling that 1059 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 1: a wash. Like I'm just I'm assuming something bad's going 1060 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,359 Speaker 1: to happen based on what we've seen. So how does 1061 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 1: first down not affect third down? Like there? No, No, 1062 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is there 1063 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,840 Speaker 1: there are times when they get the third down that 1064 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 1: it's not about first down. And there are also times 1065 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 1: when they convert on second down. So even if they 1066 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 1: didn't do much on first down, they convert on second down, 1067 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,799 Speaker 1: so it doesn't matter, So you never factor that into 1068 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 1: the third down conversion rate. Yeah, I'm saying. Well, so 1069 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:15,799 Speaker 1: all I'm saying is yes, they I think we're all 1070 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 1: agreeing from the standpoint. They got a problem on first down, 1071 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,440 Speaker 1: they got a problem on third down, and they got 1072 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 1: to fix both of them because I think they're both 1073 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,240 Speaker 1: an issue for them right now. Okay, what are the Cowboys? 1074 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,600 Speaker 1: What is the chances that the Cowboys used Seek the 1075 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:33,040 Speaker 1: way Minnesota is using Cook. I haven't really watched them 1076 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,799 Speaker 1: play much other than Monday nine. I assume that means 1077 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 1: more as a receiver, I mean, because it seems like 1078 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 1: Cook is I mean, I know Dalvin Cook is off 1079 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,680 Speaker 1: to a good start, which you've said you kind of 1080 00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:46,319 Speaker 1: wanted to see the Cowboys. Yeah. I mean Zeke has 1081 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 1: gotten three or four receptions, I think, or three or 1082 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,399 Speaker 1: four chances at a reception in every game that they've 1083 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,160 Speaker 1: played so far. But I still don't think it's enough. 1084 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 1: Like I don't. I don't think it's creative enough. You 1085 00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,840 Speaker 1: know what I was encouraged by though this week that 1086 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,400 Speaker 1: twice they ran the you know we were talking to 1087 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 1: last week. I mentioned that angle, Yeah, where they kind 1088 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,040 Speaker 1: of run, they flare him out and then he cuts 1089 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,759 Speaker 1: back into the middle, And they did it twice last week. 1090 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,279 Speaker 1: And I'm really thinking if they just start doing things 1091 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 1: like that a little more, find routes that he can 1092 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,920 Speaker 1: get open on, find routes where you isolate him in 1093 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,760 Speaker 1: man coverage against a linebacker, he should win that matchup. 1094 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 1: And that's what you're talking about from a standpoint of creativity. 1095 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 1: If they can find those kinds of things and not 1096 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,360 Speaker 1: just always whenever he gets a pass it's just the flair. 1097 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 1: We're only going to get two or three yards at 1098 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 1: the best. Then I think that's where you're going to 1099 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,719 Speaker 1: see more production out of the running game for ridicularly, 1100 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,359 Speaker 1: I would like to and I know that they did 1101 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 1: try to get him the ball on a couple of those, 1102 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,799 Speaker 1: but I would still like to see him used more 1103 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,600 Speaker 1: creatively as a receiver. I agree it just when he 1104 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,960 Speaker 1: goes out, it seems like it's always as a decoy 1105 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,359 Speaker 1: and they try to screen with him and it didn't 1106 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,400 Speaker 1: work out. But more often than not, it just seems 1107 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 1: like it's a dump off that isn't really designed to 1108 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 1: get more than three or four yards. It seems like 1109 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 1: a screen ought to be able to work, like they 1110 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 1: ought to be able to be really good this team. 1111 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 1: You can screen them if they're that aggressive. Yes, I 1112 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:09,720 Speaker 1: man misdirection delayed any anything out of the ordinary delays 1113 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,400 Speaker 1: misdirection play action leaf licker. It should work against these guys. 1114 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,279 Speaker 1: These guys only care about My team tried that in 1115 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,440 Speaker 1: the game the other day, and were you just jumping 1116 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 1: up and down. You didn't care about the result. You 1117 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,520 Speaker 1: were just like they did. Well, here's here's a part 1118 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 1: of it. You better get it blocked, okay, if you 1119 00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,920 Speaker 1: can't block, and then you're only wasted more time. So 1120 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,399 Speaker 1: Larkansas tried it against A and M. They didn't work 1121 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 1: because they can't block. So that so did you get 1122 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 1: the ball knocked around? Quarterback caught it and then he 1123 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,239 Speaker 1: had to duck and go underneath and throw it over 1124 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 1: the middle. Nothing happened. Now get it blocked first. A 1125 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,040 Speaker 1: fleeflicker that doesn't work is like such a It's so 1126 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,799 Speaker 1: disappointing because like you see the quarterback get the ball, 1127 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,239 Speaker 1: you know, oh, oh my god, fleeflicker and then it's 1128 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,360 Speaker 1: just you he gets backed or it doesn't go anywhere, 1129 00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 1: and then you're like, the way it works, it's like, well, 1130 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 1: I won't see that for a while. Try that. Not 1131 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,520 Speaker 1: gonna do that again this season. All right, we appreciate 1132 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,720 Speaker 1: you guys. Join us. We're back tomorrow morning, nine thirty am. 1133 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 1: We'll get you guys ready with our final predictions on 1134 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 1: the game. 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