1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 2: Hello everybody, welcome to the Almost Days podcast. Today we 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: are at the iHeartRadio Music Awards in LA and that 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: means that Trisa and I are saying next to each 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 2: other on a couch while we talk about Taylor, Freggy, 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 2: Paul don't figure. I mean, this is just never gonna stop. 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: I don't think so there's headline. 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 3: We could do an episode every day, I think. 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 4: Multiple times today, probably not even just once. 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: So first, our producers asked us in a group message 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: something that. 13 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 3: I don't want to admit it, but we'll do it. 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: The question to you me, Ben and Bob was, would 15 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: you guys watch the show if it did drop? Because 16 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: we have rumors online that they're trying to do everything 17 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: in their power to in some way tastefully drop this 18 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: scene in Yeah, there's a lot of people out there 19 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: that just want to bringe on Hulu. Yep, and you 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: and I both admitted that we would watch this. 21 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 3: Sayson, Yeah, I was. 22 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 4: The first one to respond. 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 3: I'm far more shameful about this. I don't care. 24 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 4: I am who I am? 25 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 5: I mean, please, they call me the fairy godmother for 26 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 5: a reason. So I'm going to watch everything that they 27 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 5: put out like it's it's where I met my husband. 28 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 5: It's like, it doesn't matter if there's any negative association. 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 5: It's where I'm and my husband. I am always going 30 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 5: to watch the show. Am I always gonna like it? No, 31 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 5: but that doesn't matter. I'm always going to watch it. 32 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 2: You and I probably had a very similar response because 33 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: you are so grateful for the show. I was sitting 34 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: in bed with Jared last week and I was just 35 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: feeling so weird Thursday when I was announced that they 36 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: were no longer going forward at this time right and 37 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: I was like, Jared, I just have so heavy today, 38 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: like this is this could be like the crumbling the 39 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: ending of something in which if it weren't for the show, 40 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: this bed that we're sitting in wouldn't have been paid for. 41 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 3: You and I wouldn't be sitting in this. 42 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 2: Bed together right now, our kids wouldn't be upstairs like 43 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: how we live, and that's what I mean, and like 44 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 2: nothing it would exist like our whole lives. 45 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: We have no idea where it would be right now. 46 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: So just yeah, I am like forever supportive of the franchise, 47 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: and I'm also very proud to be from the franchise, 48 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: are you Yeah, So, I just there was something just 49 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: watching it fall are in some way further than it 50 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 2: has been, like it's been slowly like having you know, 51 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: cracks and then like to have the earthquake last week 52 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: just like really made me sad as a fan and 53 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: of course as an alum. 54 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 4: Totally agree. 55 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 5: I can't imagine being in the eye of the storm, 56 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 5: like we're kind of on the outside. 57 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 2: Like you know, I feel like it's I can only 58 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: talk about this with you and I I feel bad 59 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: if it comes across. 60 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 5: No. 61 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 4: No, I feel like it is. 62 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 5: It's just heavy because Deanna and I did an episode 63 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 5: when it came out that it was going to be 64 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 5: canceled quote unquote, and it's just really heavy and really sad. 65 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 5: And it's because we have such positive memories of the show. 66 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 5: Like truly, I am so grateful that I met my 67 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 5: husband the way that I did, in this crazy, crazy, 68 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 5: weird way, And like I said, am I gonna like 69 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 5: every episode? No, But I feel very maternal towards everyone 70 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 5: who is on the show, everyone who followed after the 71 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 5: first season, I'm very maternal towards and that includes people 72 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 5: who have really tough times, you know, and that includes Taylor, 73 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 5: And it just makes me sad if it's going to 74 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 5: be canceled that I don't get to like welcome anybody 75 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 5: else to the sisterhood of the Bachelorettes and cheer on 76 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 5: any root for any couples or just all of it. 77 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 4: It's it's just it's crazy. It's crazy. 78 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 5: I never ever, ever thought that this is how it 79 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 5: would end. 80 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: I know, and hopefully it's not ending, Like hopefully this 81 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: is just a blip. There's been so much chatter about 82 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 2: what they should do in place during this time slot. 83 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: I've heard a good a good suggestion. Garrett says, it's unrealistic. 84 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: I like to be very hopeful would be a Dancing 85 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: with the Star season that they just throw together since 86 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 2: it's more of a live show. 87 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 3: But he's like, much more goes into it. 88 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: And then I've seen a lot of people talk about 89 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: Maura from Love Island. 90 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 4: Oh I have her, I don't. I didn't watch it because. 91 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 3: Everybody loves her. 92 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: Everybody wants her to find someone she's already been like 93 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: in this realm, and then they could do a live season, 94 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: they're saying, so it's like kind of document her journey 95 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: more of like a you. 96 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: Follow away, which would be really, really awesome. 97 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 5: I also have heard and this was just someone somebody 98 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 5: sent it to me, so I don't know where it 99 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 5: came from, but that they were going to reair me 100 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 5: and Ryan, Well, do you. 101 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: Think you could get a lot of viewers that way? 102 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 3: Because I'm pretty sure you could just go watch that 103 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 3: on Apple. 104 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 4: I don't know that you can. 105 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: Oh maybe your season. Maybe your season is really archived. 106 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 3: Okay, so sorry, I can watch my seasons on Apple. 107 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 4: I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. 108 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 2: No. 109 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 4: But Ryan was like, oh, that's all I need, you know, to. 110 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 5: Get away from this because he's, you know, a firefighter, 111 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 5: and he wants to be thought of in a serious 112 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 5: way when he's at work. 113 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 4: And well, we. 114 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: Saw that clip of you guys during the Little After 115 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: Oscar special, and we saw you guys get like flustered 116 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: and hot and bothered and it was so cute and 117 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 2: also probably weird for your kids to see. 118 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm that story. 119 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 5: You should we should actually bring blake'sy down here, because 120 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 5: she's upstairs. I was watching it with Blake's leave. I'm like, oh, 121 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 5: you have to see the part. 122 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 4: You know that they showed. 123 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 5: They showed me, and they showed me and Dad and 124 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 5: she's sitting there and they show when he walks, you know, 125 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 5: to me for the first time out of the limo. 126 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 5: He goes, oh, you're ravishing, and she goes, why did 127 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 5: he say that? I was like, he had never said 128 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 5: that word before in his life, and then I proceeded 129 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 5: to tell her that he just kept walking. 130 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 4: I was like, what's your name? You didn't even give 131 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 4: me your name, Like, don't leave. 132 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: That's so. 133 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 4: I know. 134 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 3: And then. 135 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 5: The steamy hot tub portion comes on and she goes, you. 136 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 3: I would be deeply disturbed. 137 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, that's valid, that's fair. I get it. 138 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 5: I probably shouldn't have had you watch mom and Dad 139 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 5: make out in Hota, but. 140 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 3: It is what it is. 141 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you guys are so cute and you're 142 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,119 Speaker 2: still so cute, and you're on the cover of People 143 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: magazine this week, which is so cool. We'll talk about 144 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: that in the headlines. Tristan and I are going to 145 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: do another episode on Bachelor Headlines, but right now we're 146 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: going to go through some Taylor Friggy Paul headlines. I 147 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: just it's I have to laugh at like how many 148 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: headlines one person can make. But let's get into the 149 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: first one. Her salary supposedly was higher than most. She 150 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: got in the low six figures for being the bachelorette. 151 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: And I hear that she will be getting her full pay. Yeah, 152 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: and that's something in the contract that like, of course, 153 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: like even if your season does on air fully you'll 154 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: get fully paid. 155 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 156 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: Do you remember what you got paid? I didn't didn't 157 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: get paid at all. You're the first bachelorette. That kind 158 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: of makes sense. 159 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 4: I guess I did not. But they paid my bills, 160 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 4: like they paid my. 161 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 5: Rent because I had just moved from Miami, I quit 162 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 5: my job. I didn't have, you known any funds coming in. 163 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 5: So they were like, okay, we'll pay your rent. We'll 164 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 5: pay for you to get your hair cut and colored, 165 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 5: and for your gym membership and your groceries and all 166 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 5: that kind of stuff. So they paid for my living expenses. 167 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,239 Speaker 5: But I didn't get like a salary, and obviously that changed. 168 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 5: So people do get paid, and of course Taylor Frankie 169 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 5: Paul came with so many followers and stardom, of course 170 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 5: they're going to pay her more. Yeah, of course, so 171 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 5: that that doesn't make that doesn't make me, you know, 172 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 5: question that. There's no question in that headline, like it's 173 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 5: it is what it is, and she should have gotten 174 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 5: paid more. 175 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: I wonder what she gets paid for Secret Lives, because 176 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: I wonder those shows also, like Housewives. I mean, I 177 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: can't say much, but like, yeah, you're not doing it. 178 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 3: For the episode. The episode salary, I'll tell you. 179 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 5: That, yes, but I'm sure she still gets paid probably, Yeah, I'm. 180 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: Sure that they renegotiated. They recently did renegotiate. We saw 181 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 2: in September going into season Was it the season four contracts? 182 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: Is the season four contracts that they ended up getting 183 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: the producer credit which she was so awkward about talking. 184 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 4: About One Morning America. 185 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so with the producer contract, probably be came with 186 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: a much heftier salary. Moving on, Taylor, Frankie Paul's mom 187 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: posts about times of hardship amidst the domestic violence investigation. 188 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 2: On Tuesday, this is just this past Tuesday, she said 189 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: on her Instant stories, she posted a Bible passage about 190 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 2: never giving up, and then she said today outside of 191 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 2: reading some scriptures in a ladybug landing and a moment 192 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 2: on top of me. In times of hardship, subtle revelations 193 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: sometimes appear small symbols can carry big meanings and remind 194 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: us that we are not alone. And yeah, ladybugs are 195 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 2: like supposed to say like good luck and transformation in 196 00:09:58,880 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 2: the new beginnings. 197 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 4: I believe that signs. 198 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 2: How do you feel about the fact that Taylor was 199 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: like all over social media last week? 200 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 5: I mean I literally couldn't open Instagram and. 201 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 2: Not have She was like commenting under things oh and 202 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: true story. 203 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 5: I felt like someone should have taken away her fright, 204 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 5: like she should she should not have been posting you 205 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 5: know who? 206 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 4: Am I to say? Whatever, do what you do, what 207 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 4: you're going to do. 208 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 5: But I feel like there was just a lot going 209 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 5: on and in those moments it's better to just lay low. 210 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: I saw this Instagram the other day about her mom 211 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 2: and how like oftentimes on secret lives, she'll like say 212 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: you're being stupid, You're being dumb, and like that language 213 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: can over time, especially when she's younger, Like really, do you. 214 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 4: Start to belave? Yeah, especially if your mom is telling 215 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 4: you you're stupid. 216 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, even if you're doing it like in a playful 217 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 2: way like, I can't believe you slept with them. 218 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 3: That's such a stupid decision. 219 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a little right. I agree, it's okay. 220 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: It's not our producer how they was saying, it's not 221 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: playful and she is the real Secret Lives. 222 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 3: Fan here, So okay. 223 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 2: Then now to a very interesting headline, how did TMZ 224 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 2: get that video of Taylor Frankie Paul Because Utah police say, 225 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 2: don't look at them. They literally said when TMZ initially 226 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 2: shared started all of this frenzy, how they obtained that video, 227 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: we don't know. We didn't provide that. I don't think 228 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: I ever thought the police department. I think they all 229 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: think it's. 230 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 5: To say, should we say count down three to two one? 231 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 5: And say yeah, I think that is what I've been 232 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 5: saying from the get go. I mean, this stinks to 233 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 5: high heaven all that it came from. 234 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 4: Him, the timing and and I don't know if. 235 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 5: You saw the the clip of the two Mormon wives. 236 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 5: I think we're on Nick's podcast and they were talking 237 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 5: about Dakota and how sketchy he is and how he. 238 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 4: Can't let her have a moment. 239 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 5: Yeah yes, and they were like, there, it's not shocking 240 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 5: that it came out when it did. 241 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've talked about if they didn't sit on 242 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 2: the season and they started airing it in the traditional January, 243 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: you know, ye airing time, that he probably just would 244 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: have done it then. Anyway, he's been sitting on this 245 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 2: and waiting for it. Yes, not that everybody is bad 246 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: in this situation. Everybody is bad. Everything is terrible, terrible 247 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: or not saying that, you know, But he is a victim. 248 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 2: And of course we see he's a victim, but he's also. 249 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 3: He's feeling that too. Video. 250 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 5: I just feel like he he could have walked out 251 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 5: of the house. First of all, he was walking towards 252 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 5: the child, knowing the child was there. She was bombed 253 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 5: out of. 254 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: I saw you post this on Instagram where you were like, 255 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: you've like kind of defended her. 256 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 5: I listen, one hundred percent what she did was wrong, 257 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 5: and she admitted that and she went to jail for it. Okay, 258 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 5: So obviously I am not defending her actions at all. 259 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 5: I just feel like there are extenuating circumstances, one being 260 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 5: she was so hammered that if you see any of 261 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 5: the footage of her talking to the cops or whatever. 262 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 5: During that incident, she was hammered. She has since stopped 263 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 5: drinking alcohol. So I think that that's a good step 264 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 5: in the right direction. More needs to happen, But that's 265 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 5: a good step in the right direction. 266 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 3: It more might have happened. 267 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, true, that's the thing, Like this was three years ago, 268 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: and she did change her life and get help in between. 269 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: We did get this tidbit from Jesse, her Secret Lives 270 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 2: co star. She was on the Call Her Daddy podcast. 271 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: She said that Dakota did sell the video to TMZ. 272 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 3: How much? 273 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I onally know what the rate is 274 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: of like you know, incriminating videos. 275 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 4: Like fifty grand, one hundred. 276 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: It can't be over one hundred grand, right. 277 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 5: I can't imagine. But I mean, please, they've gotten everyone 278 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 5: to DMZ. Like looking at this video, I mean there's just. 279 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: So much nuance to this. 280 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 2: Jared always talks about like how everything these days is 281 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: in black and white. You have to do one team, 282 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: the true there's so much nuance to so much gray 283 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: that like you have to just chat it out. 284 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 285 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 5: And also I want to also say the extenuating circumstances. 286 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 5: I also believe that she's in an abusive relationship, you know, 287 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 5: And I feel like I have, thank goodness, never been 288 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 5: in an abusive relationship myself, but from people that I 289 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 5: know personally who have been in relationships like that, it's 290 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 5: just so hard to walk away from that person, even 291 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 5: if you're toxic for each other. Not that it's right 292 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 5: that she came back to him, not that it's right 293 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 5: that she threw a stool at him, like none of 294 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 5: it is right, But I feel like I'm trying to 295 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 5: give her the benefit of the doubt and give her 296 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 5: some grace as it's someone who I have met, who 297 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 5: I call a friend, who I welcomed to the sisterhood 298 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 5: like I am as with anyone, like I actually wrote 299 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 5: on our group chat. I wrote her and I said, 300 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 5: just like I did when I welcomed you to the 301 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 5: group chat, I am here for you. I know it's 302 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 5: a really heavy time, but I believe in the Golden Rule, 303 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 5: and I want to treat others how I would like 304 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 5: to be treated, and I would want to be shown 305 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 5: that grace if I'm in probably the darkest days of 306 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 5: my life. 307 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 3: Right she appreciated it, I'm sure she didn't. I think 308 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 3: for me. 309 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 6: The bugaboo here is just that, like it happened in 310 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 6: twenty twenty three. Yeah, and she has talked and been 311 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 6: so emotional about it and so open about it that 312 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 6: if the video comes out, yeah, it does change everybody's feelings, 313 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 6: intensifies people's feelings toward it, and it brings everything up 314 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 6: to the surface again. 315 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: But I think it's whatever happened in February. That's why 316 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: the show should not go forward, because yeah, and whatever 317 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: happened in February seems to be like she obviously not 318 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: obviously perfec. We don't know what happened, but like that 319 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: may have proven that she didn't get the help and 320 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: change the way that she claimed to have changed. Anyway, 321 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 2: let's go into the final headline of our Franky Not 322 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: Friday episode where Dakota Mortensen, Uh, there's old footage of 323 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: him on an NBC show called The Island before he 324 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: found Mormon Wives fame. So he was on this short 325 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: lived series called The Island and it's basically about how 326 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: a modern American man can survive one month throughout the 327 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: luxuries of contemporary everyday life. 328 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 5: But you guys, also he was in this show. The 329 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 5: clip is so funny. He's like I'm from Idaho and 330 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 5: I'm a bird farmer. First of all, we don't know. 331 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 3: What a bird farmer. 332 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: We think it's a bird breeder, which makes a lot 333 00:16:58,520 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: more sense. 334 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 4: And he had never out of Idaho. 335 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 5: He he literally says in the clip, this is the 336 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 5: first time I've been to a beach. 337 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 3: Like it's crazy. That is crazy. 338 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 4: It's crazy. 339 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: And he says, he said, I work for my dad 340 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: and this show reached out to me, and I was like, well, 341 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,959 Speaker 2: why not give it a try? So what he had 342 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: to do was basically survive on a deserted island for 343 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: like a month. And where can we watch this? Because 344 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 2: I really really I see it's awful. See I would 345 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 2: watched it. I would watch Taylor season and now apparently 346 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 2: I would. 347 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 3: I am. I am exactly what we preach against. We 348 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 3: like say that. 349 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: These people need to get off the screen and get help, 350 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: and here I am being like, I'm going. 351 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 3: To continue watching the off screen. 352 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 2: Oh goodness, gracious, Okay, So we we just we need 353 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 2: to find footage of this because it sounds like really 354 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: good entertainment and a show that like should have lived longer. 355 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 4: I wonder if they'll bring it back. 356 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 2: I wonder So Dakota being on a reality TV show 357 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 2: and thy fifteen tw fifteen, that kind of tells me 358 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: that like he likes the fame element to it. 359 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean clearly. 360 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 2: Hey, you know I'm not above saying this. I am 361 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: on Housewives now. I enjoy the attention as well. 362 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 5: I think it's ironic though, because by taking Taylor down, 363 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 5: and if he did release the videos and all of that, 364 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 5: she is the why the Mormon wife, right, He's not 365 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 5: the Mormon husband, so that's not his show. So by 366 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 5: taking her down, he's essentially taking himself down. 367 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: Well, that's what's really weird about this whole thing is 368 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 2: was him selling the TMZ video if he did allegedly 369 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 2: right allegedly, was he trying to He's kind of like backfiring, 370 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 2: I know, his own opportunities because yeah, you might make 371 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 2: one hundred grand or whatever in that moment, but then 372 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 2: you would probably never be on TV again. 373 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 4: Yeah you're done. 374 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: And maybe he knows that he had no other opportunity 375 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: and TV and this is his last cash grab. 376 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 3: Who knows. 377 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 5: Maybe I don't know. 378 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 3: To me, before all of. 379 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: This one down he was in Again, I'm not I 380 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 2: haven't watched all the seasons. He had a Scott Dissic 381 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 2: energy about him, right, but Scott Dissick seems to be 382 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 2: far more lovable. Yes, totally, they're different people now, but 383 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 2: like my initial reaction to him was that he was Scutts. 384 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 2: Yeah all right, guys, Well until next time, I've been 385 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: Ashley and I've been Tusta. 386 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 387 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.