1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: And now move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky. 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 2: Brooks and then going going back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm good, 3 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: I'm good. I uh, you know, had another another night 4 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: at the studio last night doing Game Day highlights in 5 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: Game Day Final, which is kind of interesting because you 6 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 2: do kind of get to sit and take it all 7 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: in a little bit more then let's say when I'm 8 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: on Game Day Live and you know, kind of subject 9 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: My thoughts about the game were kind of subject to 10 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 2: the highlights that we end up showing, because a lot 11 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 2: of times to go back and watch the watch the 12 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: tape the next day and you're like, whoa this, we 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: didn't show this. So it's kind of good to kind 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: of get a broader sense of what's happening with all 15 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: the games. But uh, but yeah, yeah, it was pretty good. 16 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: Sunday, no doubt, We're going to go through eight games 17 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: that we dialed in on and touch on a couple 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: of the other ones at the end. But I'll start 19 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: as I always do, with the game I was at, 20 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: which is a theme that we have each and every 21 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: week with the Chargers. I say it, it doesn't matter 22 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: if they're playing the best team in the league, the 23 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: worst team in the league. It doesn't matter if they're 24 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: up thirty down thirty. You know it's going to come 25 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: down to the last possession of the game. And here 26 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: we are once again. They run out to a twenty 27 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: four to seven lead, the Raiders starting Aidan O'Connell, who 28 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: will get to in a minute, making his first start. 29 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: It just looked like everything was kind of going their 30 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: way and then all of a sudden, now you've got 31 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: you know, you've you've got an offense it's stalled out. 32 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: You've got a defense that is allowed a young quarterback 33 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: kind of find his rhythm and work with DeVante Adams 34 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: and get them back in the ballgame. You have once again, 35 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: which I know I'll let you get to on the 36 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: on the coaching decision to go for it deep in 37 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: your territory, something that Brandon Staley's done. A bunch of 38 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: all the complaints last week were about a you know, 39 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: the play call, not the decision. So they do what 40 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: everybody thought they should have done last week and that 41 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: doesn't work. We'll get to all of it, but my biggest, 42 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: my biggest takeaway from this game was it gets lost 43 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: the fact that the Raiders are playing a backup, but 44 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: this is a Chargers team. Mike Williams, you lose him 45 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,839 Speaker 1: for the year. Corey Linsley is on IR. We don't 46 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: know if he's going to come back or not. You're 47 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: missing Joey Bosa, You're missing Derwin James, You're missing a 48 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: Lowe Gilman, You're missing j T. Woods. They're missing their 49 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: top three safeties. They're missing their best edge rusher and 50 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: Joey Bosa. They're missing their defensive captain in Derwin's I mean, 51 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: there was a lot of guys out of the lineup. 52 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: It looked like Rashaun Slater was kind of playing through 53 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: something he didn't like. He was one hundred percent healthy. Yeah, 54 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: they won a game, So at the end of the day, 55 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: style points don't really matter. You found a way you 56 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: won a game without a lot of guys, and the 57 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: buy comes for them right now. They're going to be 58 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: able to come back after the buy a Monday nighter 59 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: at home against Dallas, which should be a lot of fun. 60 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exciting, you know, to kind of understand how 61 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: shorthanded you were, and then to also see some of 62 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: your guys you know who were there step up, you know, 63 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: like Khalil Mack, you know as your vintage from like 64 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, five years ago, Khalil Mack type of 65 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: performance where he was just unblockable. Now again, as you mentioned, 66 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: it helped set you add a rookie quarterback who was 67 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: still trying to assess things and work through progressions and 68 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: maybe just a little a couple of beats slow on 69 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 2: getting that ball out of his hands. 70 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: At one point in time. At one point time, right, 71 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: I did say during the broadcast, does he know this 72 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: is not Marshall. You're not at Purdue, and this is 73 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: you're not playing like a non league game against Marshall here, 74 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: Like he has just settled in there, Pat Pat Pat 75 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: Pat sack fumble? Uh, just the clock. It took him 76 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: a minute to get up to speed. 77 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: It did. Now, he made some good throws in this game, 78 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: like the throat of DeVante. Did you know on that 79 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: what was that that third down down inside the ten 80 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: to give him an opportunity there? You know, he made 81 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: some He made some plays in the game, for sure. 82 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: I mean the first drive was nice, right, but you know, 83 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: drop back and throw the ball thirty nine times, you 84 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: know in your first start, you know, as a rookie. 85 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: It's asking a lot of it, but you know, game 86 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: kind of dictated it. They were down, you know, quite 87 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: a bit. Okay, So I'll get to I'll get to 88 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: the point here on Khalil and Aidan O'Connell, and we'll 89 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: kind of we'll kind of get in there a little 90 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: bit because you know, I think we liked a lot 91 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 2: of what we saw in the preseason for Aiden O'Connell, 92 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: but you know, you got to take into consideration what 93 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 2: was he going up against, you know, a little bit 94 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 2: more of vanilla on both sides of the ball. Things 95 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: were a little bit simpler, and you know, you know, 96 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 2: he's got the accuracy and so that that's kind of 97 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 2: what that's kind of his deal. But he's not really athletic, 98 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: and so when you're holding the ball for too well, 99 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 2: you are a sitting duck back there. And obviously Khalil Mack, 100 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 2: who talked to Melanie Collins on the CBS broadcast afterwards, 101 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, Number four was holding it a little bit, 102 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 2: and so they really got after him there. I mean, 103 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 2: they were seeing that and he was clearly teeing off 104 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: and feasting on it. So that was just kind of 105 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 2: like a that was a confluence of events there, you know, 106 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: a young quarterback trying to find his way, and then 107 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 2: Khalil Mack playing, you know, like the All Pro that 108 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: he has been in his career. 109 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple other things on top of that. Number one, 110 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: I'd just as soon to see Aidan O'Connell the rest 111 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: of the year for the Raiders. What are we doing here? 112 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: This team is not good. This team has three players. 113 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: Like when you look at him and you're getting ready 114 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: for this game, I mean we'll start in the sad tight. 115 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: I think that Jermaine Illuminor is not an NFL starting 116 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: right tackle. And he got warning. I knew coming into 117 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: the game. I said, Tuley Plow two and Khalil Mack 118 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: are gonna be fighting each other to see who gets 119 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: to rush over that side, and they got him for 120 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: six sacks. But you look at the team, Max Crosby, 121 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: elite player, Davante Adams, obviously elite player. Josh Jacobs is 122 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: a really really good player. They have three guys. That's it. 123 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: I mean, this roster is not good. It's in bad shape. 124 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,799 Speaker 1: And at this point time, Jimmy Garoppolo is not your future, 125 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: so you might as well just see what you have 126 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: in the rookie here. Let Aidan O'Connell play. He got 127 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: better as the game went along. He was able to 128 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: adjust to the speed he sped his clock up. You 129 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: mentioned that deep out he hit the Devonte Adams. Yeah, 130 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: that was a really nice ball. He had a couple 131 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: of deep balls that were good throws. Obviously, the costly 132 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: pick there at the end, uh to a Santa Samwich 133 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: just sitting there in a trap. But again that I 134 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: put that more on the play caller than I do 135 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: on him. Your first and goal with the four run 136 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: the ball four times and tie the game? What are 137 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: you doing? 138 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: He's also not really a sprint right player to me? No, no, 139 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. No, you know, I get it. 140 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: I get it. I guess you know you don't want 141 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: to you want to change up too much of what 142 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: you do. But man, that's yeah, that's a tough one. Obviously, 143 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: didn't see Sante, I don't. I don't know how much 144 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: of this you're able to see that? Did you see 145 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: the tillery uh last on the sideline? I mean, what 146 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: do you what are you? What are we doing? Not? 147 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: Come on, man, I mean we kind of we viscerrated 148 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: him on the broadcast. I mean, obviously it's a Chargers broadcast. 149 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: He's a former Charger player. Didn't end well there, It 150 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: was such an over the top He's going to get 151 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: a huge fine on that thing. And just and you 152 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: can see that, what tells you everything about that replay? 153 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: Watch it in slow motion and watch Max Crosby, who's 154 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: the only other Raider saw too. He just puts his 155 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: hands up like just like, what are you doing? Just 156 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: a dumb, dumb play. But anyways, the Chargers they get 157 00:06:58,520 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: a win without all those guys. I think they come 158 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: out bye. I think you probably have Eckler back, you 159 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: probably have Doing back, you probably have Bosa back. So 160 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: the reinforcement's coming for them. And I look in an 161 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: AFC where everything's kind of jumbled up. They're sitting at 162 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: two and two, kind of right in the middle of 163 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: this whole thing. The next game on the list is 164 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: one for you RHTT and that is the Rams and 165 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: the Colts, and maybe with one of the more entertaining 166 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: games of the whole weekend. 167 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: Well wait, hang on one second, just just to quickly 168 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: go back on the on the fourth and one. 169 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, we didn't do that go ahead. 170 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: We didn't. We didn't get to that. So nobody gets 171 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: delta twelve. Nobody gets delta twelve more versus the two 172 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: than Brandon Staley, and he's going to go for he Look, 173 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: you got to appreciate the consistency, Right, He's going to 174 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: keep going for He's going to keep doing it. You 175 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: know at some point, you know, you felt like at 176 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 2: that point with the the bum finger and hand, maybe. 177 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: That wasn't the time for the QB sneak, Like you're 178 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: worried about ball security there. He wasn't good on the 179 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: QB sneak earlier in the game either, right, was not great. 180 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: So I wonder if the lack of success in those 181 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 2: situations then has to factor into the analytics side of it, Right, 182 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: do you have to plug that data in and say that, hey, look, 183 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: we just haven't been good in these situations. Maybe even 184 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: though the win percentage is up there, in terms of 185 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: the situation, maybe it's not the best situation for us. 186 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: I mean, like, does that factor in in your opinion? 187 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: So we talked to him after the game and he 188 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: was obviously he was in good mood. It was a 189 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: big win, and we brought this up towards the end 190 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: of the conversation, and it was almost he was almost 191 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: exasperated because I'm sure he just got grilled by the 192 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 2: media and before he came to us on the radio 193 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: side of things, and he just said, look, at some 194 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: point time, our guy's got to make a dank play. 195 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I'll keep answering these questions, but at some 196 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 2: point time, like we're giving you the opportunity here, we 197 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 2: make a play. And the interesting thing is, if you 198 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: look back on it, last year against Cleveland, didn't get it. 199 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: They didn't lose the game. This year, last week they 200 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: don't get it. They win the game. This week, they 201 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: don't get it, they win. 202 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: The game game. 203 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: Everybody can point to the Raider elimination game where they 204 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: went for it. I big on their own eight team, 205 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: but that wasn't the deciding factor in the game. There 206 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: was a lot of game left that, you know, you 207 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: go into overtime, it didn't end up being the nail 208 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: in the coffin, so to speak. So in some ways, 209 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: their team, even though you're not getting it, the defenses, 210 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: you know, has responded and stayed alive in these games 211 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: and they've been able to hold on. But He was 212 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: almost exasperated with the word like, guys, come on, come on, 213 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: I won't have to answer these questions. If you just 214 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: get me a stinking yard. Can we get a yard 215 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: and finish the game? 216 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think you can understand it from 217 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: that point of view, But you're also down your starting 218 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 2: center and your quarterback is a little bit banged up, 219 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 2: and you're wondering, you know, how much does all that 220 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: way in to the decision making fact process, And so 221 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: we'll see, my guess is not that much moving forward, 222 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 2: and we're still going to see those types of calls, 223 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 2: all right. 224 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: You know, I don't think I don't think that's going 225 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: to change. So yeah, that's it. 226 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Rams and Colts. This was an otique game. This 227 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: is a game though that the Rams looked like they 228 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: were going to run away with early. We jump out 229 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 2: to a fourteen to nothing, leather up twenty three to 230 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: nothing in the second half and into the fourth quarter. 231 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a two score ball game. And Anthony 232 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: Richardson starts to catch fire a little bit. And so 233 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,719 Speaker 2: I'll start with with Richardson on the comeback, and then 234 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: we'll get to my favorite part of the game, right 235 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: I thought he had really good poison in the pocket 236 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: in the in the fourth quarter in this game. That's 237 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: what I really went and watched. He had deep shot 238 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: play to let Pierce go up and make one. He 239 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 2: showed some off platform arm strength that you love from him. 240 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: He was on time and some tight window throws to 241 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: drew ogle Tree down when they really needed it. Well 242 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 2: placed out route dropped in on the third and four. 243 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: The fourth and four I thought was really good down 244 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: the stretch because he kept his eyes downfield as he 245 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: was drifting out of the pocket. I think a lot 246 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: of times you see a player with that kind of 247 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: ability look to run. He was looking to make the 248 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 2: play down the field. Thought that was really cool. Doesn't 249 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 2: get fully around enough, but man his like fully like 250 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: didn't get his hips fully square to the line, but 251 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 2: with an arm, with an arm like that, I mean, 252 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 2: it's just it's like cheating. And so he was able 253 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: to get another big completion at ogle Tree there. So 254 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 2: I thought Richardson did a great job figure out what 255 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 2: went wrong first couple of quarters, turning it around and 256 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: then giving his team and a chance to win the 257 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 2: game in overtime. Now, Hooka Nakua. 258 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: What by the way, who drafted him last week. 259 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, you're you're yeah, you joined the party. 260 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: What we'll call you this, You're like, you're like Schrager 261 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 2: on the Cooper Cup bandwagon. Just a little bit late, Okay, okay, 262 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: it started earlier over here, just getting shrigs. So hookah 263 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: ten h ten targets, nine catches. I mean, he's just 264 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: he's got such a great rhythm right now with Matthew Stafford, 265 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: like so much so that he ran a deep in 266 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: on his first catch of the game. I don't even 267 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 2: think he should have been the red, but Stafford just 268 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 2: wanted that throw and wanted to hit him, and it 269 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: actually ball gets he tips it up to himself, ends 270 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 2: up catching it. Almost all of his routes and all 271 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 2: of his targets are coming off deep ore in cuts, right, 272 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: they're digs, they're you know, an over route. Now he 273 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: did ever, actually his nicest his best route of the 274 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 2: day was it was a deep out. But he just 275 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 2: finds a way to get open in the middle of 276 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: the field, and Stafford trusts the heck out of him, 277 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: and so does Sean McVay. I think that's that says 278 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 2: something about rookie receiver man. 279 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Red, it's been it's been fun, just the way 280 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: Pokin Nikua haz just jumped in and just continues to improve, 281 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: continues to be, like you said, the focal point of 282 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: the offense, which is pretty insane. Maybe the co focal 283 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: point because in this game, Kien Williams had a really 284 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: nice game. You look at the stat line, twenty five 285 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: for a bucko, three on the ground, two touchdowns, caught 286 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: three balls for twenty four yards. So I always like 287 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: to go back and see what the pre draft stuff 288 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: was on these guys as they're starting to really pop 289 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: and come together. So you go back to the twenty 290 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: twenty two draft. He was a little over five to nine, 291 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety four pounds. He ran four sixty five, 292 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: so he did not run well. I think that was 293 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of a surpriser and knocked him down 294 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: the board a little bit. But when I look at 295 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: my notes, patient stop start quicks, he's a ninety one 296 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: yard touchdown versus North Carolina. If you question the speed 297 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: he can sink in squad and pass pro, he's excellent 298 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: in the pass game slots. They'll use him in the 299 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: slot angle routes. Exceptional my comp form. I said that 300 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: when I watched him, I thought he reminded me a 301 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: little bit of Aaron Jones. And you see a game 302 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: like this and to me, I go, okay, yeah, I did, 303 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: I see a little bit of that. So it's interesting 304 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 1: when you go back and look at the pre draft 305 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: stuff and then you know it's just getting opportunities and 306 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: now you're seeing him really run with that literally. 307 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, no kidding, and it makes it makes you feel, 308 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: you know, like the Rams dow what they were doing 309 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: and sending cam Akers on their way, and they knew 310 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: they had a young player they wanted to get more reps. 311 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: And he's done a nice job in the RB one role. 312 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: By the way, I'll go back and and you look 313 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 2: at the last play of the game, which was Hookah's 314 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: first career touchdown ends up being the walk off winner. Man, 315 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: it's a tough deal, right. They go there lined up 316 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: in a bunch. Look, two guys end up going with 317 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 2: ben'skronic on the just flat on the out route and 318 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 2: you can see Kenny Moore he goes like this to 319 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: kind of switch it as the play is developing. The 320 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: other guy didn't get the signal and so it is 321 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: too late at that point and pooka wide open and 322 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: then it is a nice job to get into the 323 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: end zone. But again, he is a heck of a player. 324 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of heck of a player, I know the 325 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: numbers don't blow you away in terms of the efficiency. 326 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: That's not the type of quarterback Anthony Richison needs to be. 327 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: He doesn't need to be a seventy percent passer to 328 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: put their team position to win games. He's hit some 329 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: explosives which they were able to do, finished drives which 330 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: he was able to do, and then and sprinkle in 331 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: the run which he's done. So that's the formula. That's 332 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: the type of player you have. Hopefully grows into being 333 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: a more efficient guy. But he didn't need to be 334 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: for you to win games. And it's gonna be fun. 335 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: I said in the beginning of the year when I 336 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: went out there, I said, I don't know how many 337 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: games this team's gonna win. It's gonna be a good watch. 338 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun to watch 339 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: Anthony and Richardson continue to grow and develop. He's he's 340 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: somebody they can build around, and I don't think they 341 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: need to keep looking, I think they found their guy. 342 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would agree. I mean, like I said, 343 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: I thought he did a really nice job in the 344 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: fourth quarter when they're down their backs against the wall, 345 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: and he just finds a way a bunch of different times. 346 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: So that was that was definitely impressive. 347 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: All let's get to the next one here the Eagles, 348 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: and speaking overtimes, another overtime game. They beat the Commanders 349 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: third thirty four to thirty one. I want to start 350 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: on the Commander's side of things, and then we'll get 351 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: over to the Eagles here in a second. But I 352 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: had fun going back and watching Sam Howell in this ballgame. 353 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: Things that stood out to me the poise, the suddenness 354 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: to be able to escape when he had to against 355 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: one of the best pass rushes in the NFL. We'll 356 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: get to their pass rush here in a minute. Full 357 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: field reads, working all the way across the field, getting 358 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: through progressions. I thought the instincts were excellent, throwing guys open. 359 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: No greater example than the touchdown to send the games 360 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: into overtime. Yeah yeah, it was a big time, big 361 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: time throwers. Threw them away from a defender. You say, okay, 362 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: was kind of hard to tell is this kind of 363 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: a kind of elongated whip route or is it a 364 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: back shoulder throw. All I know is he sees defender 365 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: on one side and threw away from him and just 366 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: to allow your guy to have a chance. But he 367 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: made several throws like that, throwing guys away from traffic, 368 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: away from trouble, climbing up in the pocket, extending plays, 369 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: taking off when he needed to. I was impressed. I 370 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: was really impressed with what I've seen from Sam Howell, 371 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: especially in this ball game. And then on the other 372 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: side of things, you know that Eagles defense. Yeah, look, 373 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: they gave up some plays. Washington gut you get thirty points, 374 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, thirty one points. You know, it's not something 375 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna be happy with. But there's some wrinkle with 376 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: the Eagles that they're adding to their mix. Their pass 377 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: rush shows so much attention with their front four there, 378 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: so they they started bringing up the linebackers. A couple 379 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: of times they double mugged, so they get on the 380 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: center with two linebackers. Then they also had kind of 381 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: a delayed rush with a linebacker because everybody's get everything's 382 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: getting fanned out. It's creating some seams and their edge 383 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: rushers are just coming off the ball so hard and 384 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: it's going to force it's going to force a really 385 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: really dramatic climb in the pocket with these guys because 386 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: you're getting an edge rush that's collapsing. Jalen Carter and 387 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox in there are getting upfield. So it's a 388 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: real quick movement and what you're seeing is they're saying, Okay, 389 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: it's like a trap. They're almost setting a trap for 390 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: a mouse, and the linebackers just closing up there and finishing. 391 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: That's when they got all. I think they had three 392 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: linebacker sacks in this game. 393 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, defenses roll and when they needed to be. And 394 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: so the other thing that really impressed me, you know, 395 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: is watching AJ Brown go to work on a young 396 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 2: corner right in Emmanuel Forbes on those two touchdowns. Look, 397 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 2: Manuel Forbes is gonna have a bright future in this league. 398 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: I think we all kind of we've seen flashes of 399 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 2: that already this season. And obviously we know when he 400 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:17,719 Speaker 2: gets his hands on the football, you know he can. 401 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: That's an egg bowl that is old miss Mississippi State 402 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: right there, and AJ Brown showed him all right, still 403 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 2: some work to do here, kid, because he got him 404 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 2: a couple of times, and those were two huge plays 405 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 2: in the game. You know, those touchdowns that Jalen hurts again. 406 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: He is so good. He has gotten so much better 407 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 2: on that deep ball accuracy too. As he's he's continued 408 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 2: to go on. So I thought that was going to 409 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: look when the Eagles needed it, they go to a 410 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 2: guy like aj Brown. Not everybody can do that in 411 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 2: the league. 412 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I'll just add this about the Eagles. 413 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: This is where I'm curious to see this collision course 414 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: they're on with the forty nine ers. We said it 415 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: before the season, it feels that way now as well. 416 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: I don't think that they're going to get the style 417 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: points at the four Anders are going to get on 418 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: their way to that meeting. But this is a team 419 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: that's just checking off win after win after win after win. 420 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: It's not always pretty, it's close. They understand how to 421 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: win close games. But when we compare those two rosters 422 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: and those two teams, I think that Philly is a 423 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: little deeper than San Francisco. I think if they show 424 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: up in all twenty two starters for both teams are healthy, 425 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: and that's what we see in the postseason. Okay, maybe 426 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: you can make a case. Maybe I lean a little 427 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: towards San Francisco. It's close. It's a toss up, But 428 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: I think when you see the attrition that's going to 429 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: take place over the year, I think the Eagles are 430 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: better positioned to kind of manage their way through that 431 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: just because of the sheer depth they have. 432 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I was actually just a little bit 433 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: surprised though, at kind of how well, at least, you know, 434 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 2: for the most part, the Washington offensive line held up. 435 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 2: You know, I didn't think that they were completely blown 436 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 2: out of the water in this game, and that this 437 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: is not the league's best offensive line. But you know, 438 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: as we mentioned, you got the second level got active. 439 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: Think they've still got five sacks, and they got five sacks. 440 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, but I mean they hung in there and 441 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: they look I mean, the quarterback gives him a chit, 442 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: the quarterback gives him a chance to That was me, 443 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: to me, the biggest takeaway from this game. If you're 444 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: gonna say, oh, you know, kind of play this out, 445 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: what's the biggest long term impact of watching this game 446 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: on tape? It was like, holy crap, Sam Howe is 447 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: pretty good man. This is not This is not like, hey, 448 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: that's a good game, like this is a good player, 449 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: this is a quality starting NFL quarterback. They can build 450 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: around him. 451 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 2: Well, and just look at the week to week comparison 452 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: here of what did Sam Howl has faced right that. 453 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: I think we're seeing that Bill's defense pretty really good, 454 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 2: really right. You know, he had a clunk, Sam out 455 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 2: a clunker against some four picks, but the Bill's defense 456 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: was messing with two a toungo I low all day 457 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: long yesterday. Yeah, and and so that was you know, 458 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 2: I know we're going to get to that game coming 459 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 2: up here in just a minute, but that was pretty 460 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 2: fun to Watchean McDermott's got that crew playing really well. 461 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 2: We'll get to that here in just a little bit. 462 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: All right, this next one before we go to the break, 463 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess let's not take too long on 464 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: this game, because one of those one that's doesn't I 465 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: don't think it deserves it. But I will say this, 466 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,479 Speaker 1: as we talk about this Bronco Bears game, everybody's saying it, 467 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: how could you not? But man, if you're a Bears fan, 468 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: can you just dream on this moment right now? Having 469 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: potentially the first and second pick in the draft. Holy crud. 470 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know what it's it's kind of weird 471 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 2: when you know, justin fields, you know, arguably has his 472 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 2: best day right throwing the football, and you're going to 473 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 2: be in position to take, you know, the best quarterback 474 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: that maybe we've seen come out of the draft in 475 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: a while. So I went into the fourth quarter to 476 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 2: really kind of under I was trying to understand what 477 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 2: the Bears were doing defensively, is did they change things 478 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: up coverage wise, ran a bunch of cover two? Did 479 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: they you know, did they have an issue dealing with 480 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 2: the run? Like it wasn't there was anything glaring. Bears 481 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 2: still got some pressure on Russell Wilson in that fourth 482 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 2: quarter when they were making that comeback, and I think 483 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 2: I just kind of came to the conclusion. I was like, 484 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 2: I think Russell Wilson just had his best quarter as 485 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: the Denver Bronco. I mean, he looked like Russ of Old, 486 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 2: kind of manipulating the pote, keeping his eyes downfield. I 487 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 2: mean the throw he had to Courtland Sutton on the 488 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 2: third and nine in the fourth quarter to make it 489 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 2: a twenty eight to twenty one ball game. It was 490 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 2: like a fifteen yard touchdown pass in the red zone. 491 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 2: I mean he threaded a needle laterally in the window 492 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 2: and then also layering it between two levels of the defense. 493 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 2: I mean it was as good a throw as you'll 494 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 2: see on Sunday. And and look, he was a big 495 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: reason they were able to, you know, make that comeback. Obviously. 496 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 2: Another reason is, you know, Maddieberflus decided not to take, 497 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: you know, a field goal which would have been about 498 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: a thirty seven yarder, instead went for it when they 499 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 2: were tied tied up at whatever it was, twenty eight 500 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 2: there on a fourth and one, and you know, obviously 501 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 2: they lose by field goal. 502 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: So not ideal, is that what you're getting on here. 503 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: I'm trying to get one last thing, one last thing here, 504 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 2: because you know you mentioned it. We do like to see, 505 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 2: you know, kind of follow some young guys that maybe 506 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 2: aren't always in the spotlight. Nick Benito, I think is 507 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: starting to come on a little bit for the Denver Broncos. 508 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: I mean he's got his almost as many pressures this 509 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 2: year as he did all of last year, and five 510 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: pressures in this game, two and a half sacks in 511 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 2: this game, and that strip sack obviously was really the 512 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: turning point for the Broncos momentum wise, and as it 513 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 2: relates to the ultimate result. 514 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that, HTT because while you're doing that, 515 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: I'm looking up the get off numbers. So you go 516 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: to next gen stats and have all the access to 517 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: get in there at all the goodies. And if you 518 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: just look at linebackers d liman a minimum of twenty 519 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: pass rush snaps. It's interesting because you see, you watch 520 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: a guy with your naked eye and you're like, god, 521 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: Nick Benito looks like he can really get off the rock. 522 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: So let's pull up the numbers. As I'm pulling us up, 523 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: I did not know where he was on this, but 524 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: it shouldn't be a surprise. Number one in the league 525 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: is Miles Garrett six, so got it. So that tells 526 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: you first and foremost this there's something to this second, 527 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: which is a surprise to some unless you know that 528 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: this guy's up there every year because he's got unbelievable anticipation. 529 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: Derek Barnett is at six point sixty six with the 530 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: hitcherss his teammate Josh Sweat again, they preach get off 531 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: point six y nine. Then you get Trey Hendrickson, you know, 532 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: elite rusher point seven to one, Nick Bosa Enough said 533 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: point seven to one, Leonard Floyd at point seven to two, 534 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: and who's tied with Leonard Floyd, Nick Benito at point 535 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: seven two. So's he's up there with all of those 536 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: top guys. It's it's it's why I love that stat 537 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: so much. It to me, it's something that truly translates. 538 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: It's one of the things with technology, we've been able 539 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: to get some new numbers and some new data, and 540 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: I think the get off thing is legit. I think 541 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: it's real. And when you when you're in the same 542 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: neighborhood is the Miles Garretts and the Nick Bosas and 543 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: the Hendrickson's of the world, that's where you want to be. 544 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 2: And think about what that does to a tackle. Right 545 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 2: when you know you're facing the guy with that elite 546 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 2: get off, you're already like building yourself an advantage before 547 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: the snap because you know that you know that tackle 548 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 2: is getting is it's in his head, right, he's got 549 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: to get it. Said yep, so that is that's a 550 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 2: good So I got another stat discovery that we'll get 551 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 2: to when we get to the Steelers Texans game, by 552 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 2: the way, that I think you'll appreciate. 553 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: All right, well, we're gonna get to that. We're going 554 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 1: to also get to the Bills Dolphins a couple more 555 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: games here. We'll get to those as well as Chiefs Jets, 556 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,239 Speaker 1: Texan Steelers. We've got a lot of ground to cover here. 557 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: We'll do that right after this. All right, right, Well, 558 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: this next one I think you could say was the 559 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: biggest statement made from the weekend and the heavyweight matchup, 560 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: the Marquee matchup by the weekend, which was the Bills 561 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: hammering the Dolphins forty eight to twenty. A lot of 562 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: different places you can go on this. You referenced earlier 563 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: about the defense of the Bills, and I'll leave you 564 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: that real estate, because there's spend a lot of time 565 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: looking at the offense on this one. Seven explosive passes 566 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: and a variety of ways. Josh Allen because he's such 567 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: a unique player with his athleticism and arm strength, he 568 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: does some things similar to what Mahomes does. In other words, 569 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: like if you see pressure looks a lot of times 570 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: as a quarterback, especially when with a weak arm like myself, 571 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: it is. I see pressure coming back. Football's gone. I've 572 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: got to get it out. The pressure's coming. These freakazoids 573 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: just get depth and say that's fine. Why would I 574 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 1: don't want to try and hit a slant here. I'm 575 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: gonna retreat like a son of a gun and buy 576 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: some time vertically that way, and then I'm gonna then 577 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: you're vulnerable in the back end. I'm gonna make you 578 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: pay with a big shot. And that's one of the 579 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: things that Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, these guys can do. 580 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: It's such an advantage man to have a huge arm 581 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: like that to be able to pull that off. They 582 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: did a nice job on schedule. Throws bang eight bang 583 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: right on them. Yeah, rhythm through. Then you see Josh 584 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: scramble around, buy some time, hit the back on kind 585 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: of just a scrambled drill play, and James Cook ends 586 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: up getting you a big explosive back shoulder balls. Excellent. 587 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: Then you have what I like to call those scheme 588 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: winners where you see so much of this. Now you're 589 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: seeing a lot of teams run that orbit motion right. Yeah, 590 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: so they're throwing that glorified bubble and then they're having 591 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: a lead blocker with the wide out. So now I've 592 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: seen this in other games I've watched through the early 593 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: portion of the season. You're seeing that orbit motion. Now 594 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: you're getting the pump, you're getting the stock block and go, 595 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: and you're just putting that corner in such a bind. 596 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: He's sitting there going, I've got to get off this 597 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: block and make this tackle on this bubble that's coming 598 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: my way, and all of a sudden, wait, wha, wait 599 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: a second, you just slipped me, and now he's up 600 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: the sideline and you're getting a big play. So you have, 601 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: you know, the ability to adjust versus pressure on time, 602 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: big time throws vanesse, you know, throws in terms of 603 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: back shoulder accuracy, like that's that's a skilled throw. And 604 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: then you get this stuff. You know, GA design winners. 605 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: It's like they can do infinite amount of things offensively. 606 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: When Josh Allen's playing like. 607 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: This, that missile to Gabe Davis on the first that 608 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 2: is so much fun to watch that and to watch 609 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 2: that trajectory and I thing's on a flip and rope 610 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 2: right and just right right in there, right where it 611 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 2: had to be. I love getting stuff on Diggs going 612 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 2: in this game, you know, and then watching him kind 613 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 2: of build his kind, you feed him and just he 614 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 2: he you know, he continues to get better right as 615 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 2: the game goes on and more difficult to deal with. 616 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 2: You saw that on the run after the catch on 617 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 2: I think it was the second touchdown. I mean it 618 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 2: was just there was so much to light there. Now 619 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: here's the other thing I think we we maybe forgot 620 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 2: and need to come back to appreciating how good of 621 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 2: a defensive coach of Sean McDermott's yeah, right, I mean 622 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 2: like that's that that's his forte right, and that's that's 623 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 2: essentially what gets him, you know, the Buffalo Bill's head 624 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 2: coaching job, and the last couple of years, you know, 625 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 2: he's had Leslie Fraser calling the plays and that's still 626 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 2: been a good defense. Leslie did a good job there. 627 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 2: But man, I mean McDermott is rolling right now as 628 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 2: a play caller. I mean he had to a tongue 629 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: of Biloa guessing all over the place in this game. 630 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: And I think their best some of their their best 631 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 2: plays was trying to find that get the ball to 632 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 2: to Devon ah Chan and uh and obviously he had 633 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: a one hundred per yard day and an explosive day on 634 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 2: the ground. But man, they they did a pretty good 635 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: job keeping those deep explosive plays in the past game 636 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: under wraps. And that's easier said than nothing. 637 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: So I went back and watched the defense this morning. 638 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: I spun through it, and I just wanted to see, Okay, 639 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch I'm gonna watch all the explosives that 640 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: the Dolphins were still able to generate. And then I 641 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: want to watch how they got off the defensively, and 642 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: and I'm like, Okay, can I find something? Is there 643 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: something in here that correlates between their allowing big plays 644 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: and they're they're limiting big plays? And I honestly read it. 645 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty interesting. It was pretty telling 646 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: to me. It was It was quite simply linebacker depth 647 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: like that was it like when they're linebackers off all 648 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: that play action stuff you step for, the Dolphins are 649 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: just trying to manipulate you to just just either hold 650 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: or just give me a little just give me one 651 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: or two steps, lean in pause, just to create that gap, 652 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: that distance between the linebackers and the safeties. And that's 653 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: where they operate. That's where Tua lives in that area. Yeah, 654 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: but when they were disciplined and just basically and look, 655 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: you can give up, who cares. Let If Han wants 656 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: to run for one hundred yards, that's fine. We're not 657 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: playing downhill. We are getting out of there. Our linebackers 658 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: are athletic. We're gonna get out and we're gonna We're 659 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: gonna rally and tackle. You're gonna have to check the 660 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: ball down. You're gonna have to throw it underneath our 661 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: second level. We're not gonna let you work between our 662 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,239 Speaker 1: second and third level. And the reason you do that 663 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: is you get your linebackers the crap out of there. 664 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: When they got depth, there was nowhere to go with 665 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: the ball, and Toua was reluctant to try and really 666 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: check the ball all the way down because people talk 667 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: about the deep ball, talk about check. Tua lives in 668 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: the middle. He is the intermediate king. That is where 669 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: he is most comfortable. And they just kill teams with 670 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: those throws. 671 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 2: They turn those went into those sixty yard touchdowns. Right, 672 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 2: you catch it at twenty. 673 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: And then run, Yeah, you catch it on the dead run. 674 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: But to me, linebacker depth, that the discipline of that too, 675 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: because your whole life and football you've been taught. You 676 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: see the ball in the belly of the back, you 677 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: are taking a step down, You've got gaps, you've got responsibilities. 678 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: Screw that, man, get the heck out of there. 679 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 2: And then I think again, he comes back to something 680 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 2: I think we mentioned first or second week of the season, 681 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 2: but the roster decision from Brandon Bean to let to 682 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 2: let Tremaine Edmunds go get the big money deal elsewhere, 683 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 2: feel really good about Matt Milano, and then know you 684 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 2: drafted Terrell Bernard who can really run. And man, that 685 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 2: is a really good off the ball linebacker duo right 686 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 2: there with Bernard and Matt Milano. But yeah, yeah, anything 687 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 2: else on that game, I think, uh, I think that 688 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 2: pretty much covers it. But I think for the most part, 689 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: we're seeing we're seeing good. Josh Allen like, yeah, and 690 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 2: obviously the one game you know wasn't great a couple 691 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 2: of weeks ago, but man, twenty one to twenty five, 692 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: even more touchdowns and incompletions in this game. So that's 693 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: winning football. 694 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: By the way, I tell you, I'm I pick up 695 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: the tuxedo today. Got it? Yeah, So we got all raded, 696 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: We got it all dialed then feel good about it. 697 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever told you ended up 698 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: going bow tie. It was it was longtime boats ie. 699 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: I went with the boat tie more formal. My wife's 700 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: gonna be wearing more of a formal dress at the wedding, 701 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: so I said, Okay, the bow ties. It's more matching there. 702 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: I appreciate that classic look. Man, you're a classic. Got 703 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: the the tuxedo shirt, which I never really was aware of. 704 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: This one has kind of like the circle. It's kind 705 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: of like the you know, it's kind of like the 706 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: little circle kind of look at you. Yes, yeah, like you. Yeah, 707 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: it's definitely a you you look. I felt like kind 708 00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: of I kind of felt like I belonged playing it 709 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: in Triman on the deck of the Titanic. I'm not 710 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: gonna lie U with that thing. Well, but we'll see. 711 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: Hopefully that's not a metaphor for the getting out to 712 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: put that out there. Yeah, he's a nice, nice guy, 713 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: a good, good future, all right. That was the side 714 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: note there. Excited to get the tucks though, get that today? Yeah, 715 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: excited cowboys Cowboys Patriots thirty eight to three. Yeah, just 716 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how let's just say it's a beat down, man. 717 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 2: It was. It was. And again the Dallas Cowboys defense 718 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 2: back back to doing what they do really well, turn 719 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 2: the football over. This this was not an overly like 720 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 2: prolific day from the Dallas offense, which a lot of 721 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 2: times you think we see thirty eight points. So you 722 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 2: get two defensive touchdowns, you're pretty good. Shape fumble return 723 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: scoop and scored by Layton vander ash and then a 724 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: Dean Bland fifty four yard pick six. He had two 725 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 2: picks some day. So let's get into this here. A 726 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 2: little bit on mac Jones. He had a pretty good 727 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 2: first quarter. Okay, he had a pretty good first quarter, 728 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 2: made some big throws in that in that and then 729 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 2: things really started to kind of spiral and slip a 730 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: bit after the strip skack scoop and score by Layton 731 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: Vanderesch there so he I mean, here's a two play 732 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 2: sequence where he starts to get kind off the rails 733 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 2: a little bit. He's got a second and sixteen. He's 734 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 2: rolling all the way out to his right. He stops 735 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 2: and then looks all the way back to the left. Okay, 736 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 2: so he's at the top of the numbers on the 737 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 2: right side. He then throws all the way back three 738 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 2: yards from the sideline on the left side, about three 739 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 2: yards beyond the line of scrimmage as well, So it's 740 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 2: not like a deep throw. I mean it is almost 741 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: completely lateral, sidelined to side, like really dangerous throw. Right. Well, 742 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 2: it ends up working. So then what happens a few 743 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 2: plays later on the same drive rolls all the way 744 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: out this time it is just to the right hash 745 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 2: after dealing with some pressure, and again goes all the 746 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: way back to the left side of the field. This 747 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: time Deron blands like ah not again picks that thing off, 748 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 2: takes it to the house fifty four yards back. So 749 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 2: you know, he sees some slippage and then things, you know, 750 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 2: things start to start to kind of pile on. Little 751 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 2: bit flustered in the pocket I think, and you mentioned 752 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: with Josh Allen and Mahomes. You see guys with those 753 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 2: big arms, man, they will they'll retreat and they'll reset 754 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 2: right and then fire a strike. Whereas you know, Mac 755 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 2: felt like maybe a couple of times could have stepped 756 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 2: up in the pocket set his feet made a nice throw, 757 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 2: whereas he's still retreating and then trying to throw it 758 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 2: off the back foot and that's trouble. And then he 759 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 2: gets picked off again by Deron Bland on just an 760 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 2: errant backfoot kind of throw. It's actually he's inside on 761 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 2: an out route on the second Bland interception. Makes a 762 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 2: bad choice there. But I mean Doron Bland, by the way, 763 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 2: has more interceptions than anybody in the league since the 764 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: started last year. Fifth round pick out of Frozeno State. 765 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: Can I pull up my nugs on him because he 766 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: was Well, I'll give you some homework while you're doing 767 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: it here, let me know what what pick he was. 768 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: He was my one hundred and twenty first player. Was 769 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: he undrafted No. Round five, pick one sixty seven. Okay, 770 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: so he was one hundred and twenty first player. This 771 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: is non combine so that was, you know, one of 772 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: the deals there. He was a little over six foot, 773 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,439 Speaker 1: one hundred ninety seven pounds, ran for four to six. 774 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: I've had three picks, I said in off coverage. This 775 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: dude can really find and play the ball. He has 776 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: a big time, big time pick six with showing FBI 777 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: and range, so football intelligence and range versus boyd Boise State. 778 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: He can carry crossers, he's got deep speed. He was 779 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: like one of my true sleepers. You know, put him 780 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: as one hundred and twenty first guy without him, you know, 781 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: going to the combine. 782 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 2: That's a pretty good you know, that's a pretty good 783 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: grade right there. You know, forg guy who doesn't end 784 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 2: up at the combine ends up there, which is kind 785 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 2: of weird. 786 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: Too, when you like it's a it's definitely you know, 787 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: you're not going to be bat one thousand, you know, 788 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: when you're got Jeff Foster's job and you've got to 789 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: collect these guys and limited the number of guys you 790 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 1: get the combin But oh sure, man, this guy's height, weight, 791 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: speed and production. Like that's a lot to sell there. 792 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 2: I mean it's like, you know, you get Treyvon Diggs 793 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 2: Picks a couple of years ago, and now you got 794 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 2: you know, he inserted dron Bland, who again is kind 795 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 2: of an interception magnet. So I thought, I thought that 796 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 2: was pretty cool. I I don't know what to do 797 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 2: if you're the Patriots, you know, I think Mac Jones 798 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 2: is still your best option, right and Bill Belichick's been 799 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 2: answering those questions, But what's your best option to find 800 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 2: productivity as an offense? I think it's it's it feels 801 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 2: like it's more so on the ground that it is 802 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 2: through the air, you know, just with the talent. And 803 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 2: I know they've had some issues along the offensive line too, 804 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:37,240 Speaker 2: but I think more Ramandre Stevenson the better moving forward 805 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 2: for the Patriots. Or is you know Zeke Elliott too? 806 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. I went through and was just trying 807 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: to pull up some mac Jones numbers. You know, he's 808 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: tied with with Ritter with ten turnover worthy plays in 809 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: the league, And to me, I think that obviously he's 810 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: got to own some of that criticism. I didn't ever 811 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: think the ceiling with Mac was incredibly incredibly high, but 812 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: I wonder. I wonder if he just goes to bed 813 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 1: at night and thinks, man, I was this close to 814 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: being brock perty. I was this close with my skill set, 815 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 1: the way I can play with Deebo, Samuel and Brandon Aiyuk, 816 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan call and plays, George Kittle, Christian McCaffrey. He's 817 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: got to just sit there and watch those forty nine 818 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 1: Ers games and be like, are you kidding me? They 819 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: almost put me in that Lamborghini and I gotta sit 820 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: here and I got to drive this old beat up 821 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: car here in New England where we've got nobody that 822 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 1: can win, I got nobody that can separate. I mean, 823 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 1: I keep coming back to the same thing we said 824 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: before the season started, and it's kind of like it's like, 825 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 1: you know, people, that's kind of hokey analogy, but it's true. 826 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: Like what the heck what jersey are you selling in 827 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: that team shop? Like what the heck are you excited about? 828 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: If you're a Patriots fan? Like I get you know 829 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: what I mean, I'm coming off of a year. I'm 830 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: coming off of a baseball season where I'm been a 831 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: pottery fan. They didn't make the playoffs, and I you know, 832 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: but I'm like, did I get to watch Wan Soto 833 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: and Manny Machado and Frando? Like at least there's something 834 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: as a fan you can get excited about and go watch. 835 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: Like who are you excited about to go watch a 836 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: Patriot game? You're gonna go pay all that money? Who 837 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: you want to see? 838 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 2: Juju Smith Schuster five targets, one catch. Hunter Henry was 839 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 2: their most efficient receiver on the day. I think I 840 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 2: think Pop's Douglas to Mario. Doug Douglas is like the 841 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,919 Speaker 2: guy that's got the most juice on that team. Yeah, 842 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 2: and you know he had a he had a long 843 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 2: forty two yard catch early on, I think on their 844 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 2: first drive. But uh, you know Mac throws the two picks. 845 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: You're gonna go, I know, and I know they beat 846 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: the Jets, but you're gonna say you can go watch 847 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, Tyreek Hill and Miami. You can go watch 848 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs and Buffalo, or you can come watch Pop 849 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 1: Douglas in know England. 850 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, yeah, look, I'm not saying it's 851 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 2: a great situation, but I'm just trying to give you 852 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,280 Speaker 2: the best of the best of the bunch here. Whereas 853 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,479 Speaker 2: like every single play I mean Stevens and I'm saying, 854 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 2: run the ball more. I mean, Remandre averages two yards 855 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,479 Speaker 2: of carrying this game, Zeke two point seven. That's nothing. 856 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 2: Nothing to hang your hat on either, I guess no. 857 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 1: Anyway, so good wins for the Cowboys. They bounce back, 858 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,439 Speaker 1: So good on them. But I just again, I don't 859 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: know where the Patriots. The Patriots to me feel like 860 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: the a little bit like the Raiders we talked about earlier. 861 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, this team's not good enough to win anything. 862 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 1: So who are the building blocks that you can you know, 863 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: having place to go forward with and and you got 864 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: to have some major, major, major, major upgrades to the 865 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 1: talent or you got no shot. 866 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right. I mean it's kind of 867 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 2: been building towards this too, like for or falling towards 868 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 2: this fall. It's been like a simmer right towards this 869 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 2: thing for a couple of seasons. All right, what are 870 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 2: we go on next? 871 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: They got the Sunday Night or Chiefs and Jets. Uh, 872 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 1: it was interesting, you know, going back and watching that 873 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: this morning. Let's start on the Jets offensive side of 874 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 1: the ball, because I think that got the most attention. 875 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: Got Rodney Harrison got a lot of attention for it 876 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: was a little a little harsh, a little much on 877 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 1: that one, a little over the top. But I wanted 878 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: to start with Zach Wilson. Is his best game, uh 879 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: that he's probably played as a pro against maybe you know, 880 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: one of the top three defenses in the NFL. At 881 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,919 Speaker 1: Chiefs are really really good. So that was encouraging to see. 882 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: Now when I went back and watch it, I still 883 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: think he's late. I still think he missed some things 884 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: where you've got guys, you know, you've got like a 885 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: you've got a mesh route where everything is set up 886 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: to pick and get the back out and the flat 887 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: and the pick works, and you've got him in the 888 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 1: flat to walk in and he doesn't see it. So 889 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: I still think there's times where he's not seeing everything. Great, 890 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: but I thought he played more under control. I thought 891 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,439 Speaker 1: they took the training wheels off, so to speak, let him, 892 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: you know, just be a little bit more of attack mode. 893 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: I think you can get into dangerous territory when you're 894 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,240 Speaker 1: just don't screw up, don't script, don't scrip, don't scrip, 895 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: don't screw up like you can't play the position like that. 896 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: You've got to have a little bit of a stinger. 897 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: And I thought you saw that kind of grow with 898 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: him as the game went along. Yeah, you know, the fumble. 899 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure he'd loved to have that one back. But 900 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,720 Speaker 1: on the whole, I thought this was this was something 901 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: he can he can learn from and grow from. And 902 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: I don't even know if I'm reading much into this, 903 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 1: but just just Aaron Rodgers, even just being around, I 904 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: think is a calming influence. And again it's that all 905 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: that doubt. And you even saw it some after the 906 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 1: game when they had the camera close up on him 907 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,800 Speaker 1: and he says, sorry, bro, you know I lost the game. 908 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 2: For us or whatever. 909 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 1: He says, yeah, which is a totally different attitude than 910 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: he had last year. I think he's way more endearing 911 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 1: to his teammates, you know, this version of Zach Wilson 912 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: than he was previously. Long story short, red. He's not 913 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: like to say that he's fixed. No, he still has 914 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,280 Speaker 1: a lot of he still has a lot of growth. 915 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: But I looked it up. Man, he's twenty four years old. 916 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 1: Like this dude is still twenty four And the one 917 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: thing I would like to put to bed, he look, 918 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 1: that might be the best game he ever plays. He 919 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 1: may be. He could be out of the league in 920 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: two years. I don't know, we'll find out. But the 921 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 1: whole narrative that he was just one throw at a 922 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 1: pro day and that's why he got drafted, I might 923 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: just stop, just stop. Like the guy has elite traits 924 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 1: coming out like he made ridiculous in game throws. He's 925 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: very athletic. All that stuff's there. But if you were 926 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: going to say, you know, what's a tough position to 927 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: go on. Well, you're gonna go someplace that's extremely high 928 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 1: pressure on you at that position, a ton of attention. 929 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: You don't have a great offensive line. When you get there, 930 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: you're going to cycle through offenses and offensive coordinators and 931 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: then your confidence is going to be shot. And oh, 932 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 1: by the way, you play in a division with Bill 933 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,839 Speaker 1: Belichick McDermott and then a Dolphins team that's had as 934 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: much talent as anybody since he's come into the league. 935 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: Like it was crappy hand, the kid got dealt. All 936 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying is that nothing's been determined. And this doesn't 937 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: mean he's going to be good because he played one 938 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: good game, but hey, look for one day, you'd be 939 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 1: excited that there are steps taken forward in a positive manner. 940 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would actually kind of characterize it as I 941 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 2: feel like he had his best eight hours as a pro. 942 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 2: Like when you talk about putting your eight hours in, 943 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,240 Speaker 2: you know, just like putting it putting in a workday, 944 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 2: and that means you know, that means your preparation going 945 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 2: into the game, you know your the whole deal, and 946 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 2: then it also means how you react after the game. Right, 947 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 2: because we've seen that go the other way, you know 948 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 2: with Zach. But I thought it was really telling to 949 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 2: see Randall Cobb and Alan Lazard coming up come up 950 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 2: to him after the turnover and be like, hey, we 951 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 2: got you. You know, like this can win. If you're 952 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 2: playing like this for four quarters, we can win. We 953 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,879 Speaker 2: can back each other up here, like this is something 954 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,919 Speaker 2: we can kind of feed off now and build off 955 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 2: moving forward. It felt like there was this, like it's 956 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,240 Speaker 2: kind of a come together moment there for that offense, 957 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 2: and maybe maybe they hadn't d you know, truly in 958 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 2: one of those tough situations yet. So I thought that 959 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 2: was kind of cool to see. And then, you know, 960 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 2: Zach stand up after the game. You know, obviously you 961 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 2: got to can't take your eye off the ball on 962 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 2: a snap like that, right, got to make sure you 963 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 2: secure secure That's that's priority one. Secure the ball and 964 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 2: then let's go play. And obviously just didn't there and 965 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 2: that ended up leading to it. But that final drive 966 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 2: was kind of insane for the Chiefs, the amount of 967 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 2: penalties that were called on that thing. And I think 968 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 2: a lot of people are talking about the sauce gardner, 969 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 2: you know, Kai, yeah, maybe by letter of the law. 970 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 2: It's a hole, you know, and you hate to see 971 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 2: it on a third and twenty right, and there's a 972 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 2: couple of different plays, a couple of I mean, Patrick 973 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 2: Mahomes is sitting back there for seven seconds before he 974 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 2: ends up taking that open run with for the twenty 975 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 2: five yard scramble. You know, playing man coverage in that 976 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 2: situation is risky business, isn't it if you're if you're 977 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 2: the Jets. 978 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 1: So I'm going back and I'm pulling this up because, yeah, 979 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 1: the game in Mexico City in twenty nineteen, I'm down there, 980 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 1: it's Chargers Chiefs, it's late, and Mahomes ended up with 981 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 1: five rushes for fifty nine yards with a long of 982 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: twenty four. And I believe late in this game it 983 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: was again another like twenty Maybe maybe that was a 984 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: twenty four yard run, but it was a third down, 985 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: third and forever and uh and he ends up break 986 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: just being fast enough, and it's the last thing you're 987 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: thinking of, you take away everything else, and all of 988 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: a sudden it's like, oh crap, you mean to tell 989 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 1: me this dude can run too? And he does it 990 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: and he he's usually pretty good. If you go back 991 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 1: and look at every big game that he's played in, 992 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 1: he has one or two of these runs that extend drives. 993 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: Every single time he has in an eight feel of 994 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 1: just knowing, oh, there's enough I can go at that, 995 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,399 Speaker 1: and he goes and does it. It's it's incredible. It's 996 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's one of the reasons why you know, 997 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: when I've talked to it. I remember it was Gus 998 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 1: Bradley or who it was. It was a defensive coordinator 999 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,839 Speaker 1: was talking to about him. And obviously nobody says they 1000 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 1: have the answers with Patrick Mahomes, but one of the 1001 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: keys was everybody says, oh, you've got to keep him 1002 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:19,959 Speaker 1: in the pocket. You got to keep him in the pocket. 1003 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,399 Speaker 1: Their thing was, we're okay, if he gets flushed out 1004 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: right or if he gets flushed out left. The thing 1005 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 1: you can't do is open up lanes where he can 1006 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 1: run shoulders squared towards the line of scrimmage in the 1007 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 1: middle of the field, because not only then do you 1008 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 1: have to worry about him running, but now he can 1009 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 1: access every blade of grass on the entire field like that. 1010 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he's made some incredible all the way out 1011 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: to the sideline to the right, maybe throw it back 1012 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 1: to the hash, but I mean he can't get it 1013 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: to the other sideline from there. When you're in the 1014 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: middle of the field, you literally have to defend from 1015 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 1: one sideline to the other sideline. But there were some 1016 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 1: they just had some creases and he was able to 1017 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: get up in there and then and then you're in trouble. 1018 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean it's a tough spot to be in, 1019 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 2: right because you feel like if you're playing zone coverage 1020 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 2: in some of those situations too, Travis Kelcey's got the 1021 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 2: knack for finding the open window right and and Mahomes 1022 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 2: gives him such latitude to do that. I mean, it's 1023 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 2: kind of a no win situation. I don't know what 1024 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 2: the right call is there. I just know that that 1025 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 2: was about as as you know, free a runway on 1026 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 2: a third and twenty right up the gut, right up 1027 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 2: the middle that you'll ever see. And and it obviously 1028 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 2: it paid off for the Chiefs. 1029 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 1: But I take nothing away from them either, by the way. 1030 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that wasn't there. That wasn't their best effort, 1031 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: that wasn't their best performance. Pat didn't have a great game. 1032 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:34,879 Speaker 2: About the checko though. 1033 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that gave him something, you know, it's a 1034 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: nice balance for him. And that's I go back to 1035 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, you know, talking about the Chiefs, I go 1036 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,879 Speaker 1: back to what we said about the Eagles. Just stack them, 1037 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: just just throw wins up there. Doesn't have to be 1038 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 1: pretty then't that have to be your best. But they 1039 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 1: just know how to win in those winning moments. They 1040 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 1: definitely pulled that off a last one. Rhtt. This was 1041 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: just I feel like we've gone close games and man, 1042 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 1: butt kickings. This would be a butt kicking and this 1043 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: was the Textans thirty to six over the Steelers. 1044 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 2: And man, this was a lot of This was really 1045 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,919 Speaker 2: cool to see. And you know, you had JJ Watt 1046 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 2: in the building going up in the Ring of honor. 1047 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 2: TJ Watt obviously there too, and I honestly thought TJ 1048 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,919 Speaker 2: Watt might give you know, CJ. Stroud and the text 1049 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 2: in some trouble, you know, the offensive lines beat up 1050 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 2: at the tackle spot. But CJ is a cool customer. 1051 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: Man. 1052 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 2: It's getting to the point right now where even if 1053 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 2: I don't select this game as one of our eight 1054 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 2: to talk about, I got to want to watch it. 1055 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 2: I just want It's just it's too much fun, especially 1056 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 2: when you can watch the trajectory of some of his 1057 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 2: throws from the end zone copies. It's like, yeah, it's 1058 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,800 Speaker 2: a thing of beauty. It's like watching the NFL films 1059 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,439 Speaker 2: like Spiral right, the close up spiral that they got 1060 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 2: in slow motion. Man, he's good. Look. I think credit 1061 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 2: to Bobby Slowick too, because they've got some real comfortability. 1062 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 2: He has built in some real comfortability with with things 1063 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 2: that CJ. Stroud can do really well. Like they've run 1064 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,839 Speaker 2: a goal line RPO. That's a thing of beauty. I mean, 1065 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 2: it's just it is a simple read. He sees nobody 1066 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,320 Speaker 2: in the in the middle of the field. Here, pulls 1067 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 2: the ball out of Damian Pierce's stomach. Bang, trust Nico 1068 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 2: Collins to get inside on a slant route and it's 1069 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 2: like bang, bang, you know, no shot for the Steelers 1070 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,720 Speaker 2: right there, and it's a touchdown. He's got another RPO 1071 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 2: where he sees the pressure kind of developing before it 1072 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 2: even happens. He's going to have unblocked pressure and then 1073 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 2: he's like, bamn, I'm going right to Nico Collins. I mean, 1074 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 2: the ball comes out right. It's just it's a lot 1075 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 2: of fun to see and so I'm watching these throws, right, 1076 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,360 Speaker 2: and I'm like, man, these guys me he is CJ's 1077 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 2: on the money, which you know, isn't strange. What's what's 1078 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 2: a superpower? It's accurately right, It's it's all places we 1079 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 2: talk about all the time. And and I'm like, man, 1080 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 2: these guys are are catching the ball and they are running. 1081 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 2: And I think a lot of times, you know, we'll 1082 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 2: use you know, a box score to look for a 1083 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 2: trend that maybe you want to dig deeper into. Right, 1084 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 2: you know, you see a team goes you know, two 1085 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 2: or twelve on third downs? All right, what was what 1086 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 2: was going on? So we'll go we'll get those third downs? Well, 1087 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,360 Speaker 2: this was the opposite. It was kind of like what 1088 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 2: you were talking about earlier in the show. And I'm like, 1089 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 2: I wonder, I wonder what they're acquas this week for 1090 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,800 Speaker 2: the Texans. Yeah, well sure enough. They led the league 1091 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,760 Speaker 2: in yack yardage this week with one hundred and seventy 1092 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 2: eight yards. And and is that is that? Because you 1093 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,760 Speaker 2: know Nicocollins and uh, you know John Metchi and Brevin 1094 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,480 Speaker 2: Jordan to Tank Dell. I mean, like they're good players, right, 1095 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,720 Speaker 2: who would the ability to generate yards after the catch. 1096 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 2: But a big piece of that is CJ. Stroud putting 1097 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,320 Speaker 2: that thing on the money. None more beautiful than the 1098 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,399 Speaker 2: third and seven corner round from the slot by Nico 1099 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 2: with under four minutes to go. I mean it just 1100 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 2: it doesn't get much better and c J. Stroud is 1101 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 2: just dotting them up right now. 1102 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: All right, let me give you I'll piggyback that stat 1103 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 1: with the with another one third down if we say 1104 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 1: third downs of money down right, yep. CJ. Stroud on 1105 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: third down this year is forty for fifty six with 1106 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: four touchdowns no picks. His adjusted completion percentage, meaning what 1107 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 1: his completion percentage should be, is best in the league 1108 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 1: eighty six point three percent on third third down down 1109 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 1: eighty six point three. 1110 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 2: DJ. Do you remember my takeaway from the Texans game 1111 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 2: in Week one? This dude was fourteen to sixteen on 1112 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 2: third down. Yeah, like, and they didn't convert every one 1113 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 2: of them, but like, that's incredible. 1114 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 1: That's where that is absolutely outstanding for a guy in 1115 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 1: his first four starts to be to be sitting there 1116 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 1: and again not turning the football over. Four touchdowns, no picks. 1117 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 1: He's been sacked three times, but They've had four drop 1118 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,319 Speaker 1: passes on there. His completion percentage I believe is like 1119 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 1: seventy three percent, but adjusted completion percentage would put him 1120 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,840 Speaker 1: at eighty six percent, which is incredibly stupid. So he 1121 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,840 Speaker 1: is off to a great start and they are looking 1122 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,319 Speaker 1: like they not only have found their guy, but they've 1123 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 1: got a chance to And we were thinking maybe this 1124 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 1: is Trevor Lawrence's division for the. 1125 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 2: No, they're vibing right now. 1126 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: No, they're ready to go. 1127 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 2: He got the defense. 1128 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:51,280 Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, yeah, so fun times, fun times in Houston. 1129 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 1: Any any other games you want to touch on before 1130 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 1: we jump out of here. 1131 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,919 Speaker 2: Let's see what do we uh? What do we miss? 1132 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 2: I mean Baltimore Cleveland obviously, you know the Shawn Watson. 1133 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 2: I think that's really unfortunate for the Browns. You know, 1134 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,879 Speaker 2: he plays his best game as a Brown last week 1135 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,239 Speaker 2: and then you know, unable to go. 1136 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 1: I argue that that was the best thing. Can I 1137 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,800 Speaker 1: argue that was the best thing for the Browns because 1138 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 1: you did not want I mean. 1139 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 2: This is you don't want DTR to go off. 1140 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: DTR comes in there and goes off, and you're like, well, wait, 1141 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 1: we're with Deshaun Watson. Committed with financially, he's not going anywhere, 1142 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,320 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, now you got every game, Like, 1143 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: I don't know the other guy I think is better 1144 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 1: than he is. Well, that was put. That was put 1145 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:25,880 Speaker 1: the rest quickly. 1146 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. The other thing I would say, in terms 1147 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 2: of takeaways, the NFC South might be the Tampa Bay 1148 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,400 Speaker 2: Buccaneers division. And I'm going to tell you right now, 1149 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 2: I don't know that I predicted it. 1150 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 1: No, well, I don't think that division is decided by 1151 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 1: any stretch. The only thing I would sell to atlant 1152 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 1: Atlanta does not look good. That would be the other 1153 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 1: side of it. But uh, I mean it's yeah, it's 1154 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna be. It's gonna be. Uh, it's theirs to win. 1155 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 1: The Saints, I don't know what their deal is and 1156 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 1: that's just, uh, that's a tough one to figure out. 1157 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 2: That's why that's just thirty three yards for Alvin Kamara. 1158 00:50:59,080 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 2: I don't even know. 1159 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 1: That's the one of the one of the weirdest stat lines. 1160 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,839 Speaker 1: The Panthers, they are zero and four many. They don't 1161 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 1: have anybody for Bryce Young. I feel bad for him. 1162 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,920 Speaker 1: I know there's probably some times he held the ball 1163 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 1: a little bit long, but I don't know what they're 1164 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 1: supposed to do with what he's working with. The Vikings 1165 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 1: get a much needed win, Vikings sitting at one and three. 1166 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 1: But I still feel like very much alive, very much. 1167 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 1: Everything's still in front of them. I don't think that 1168 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 1: division strung. 1169 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,280 Speaker 2: You'd like to think so, right, so they'll be okay, 1170 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 2: this could really you know, we're talking about Bucky not 1171 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 2: being here. He's going to go meet the day he 1172 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 2: was in London to see the Jags. We'll get the 1173 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 2: win over the Falcons, kind of hang on if they're 1174 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 2: building an early lead. This could turn out to be 1175 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 2: a kind of pivotal point for the Jags, a two 1176 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 2: week stretch where they kind of get away from the 1177 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 2: expectation state side, where they were struggling a little bit, 1178 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 2: kind of come together on the road in London and 1179 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 2: play two back to back game they get if they 1180 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 2: beat the Bills. This I'm not saying they're going to 1181 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 2: I don't and I won't pick them too, but this 1182 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 2: this you'll look back on this as being like a 1183 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 2: real pivotal stretch for Jackson. 1184 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,359 Speaker 1: No doubt. And we touched on the Niners a little 1185 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 1: bit earlier. I mean, look, McCaffrey goes off. I mean 1186 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 1: he was on un stoppable perty doesn't throw in completions. 1187 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 1: It's again, they're on cruise They're on cruise control. Yeah, 1188 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 1: one completion, they're on cruise control. And look that being said, 1189 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,239 Speaker 1: seventeen to ten and a half or sorry, twenty one 1190 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,919 Speaker 1: to ten at half. At least the Cardinals are they fight, 1191 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 1: they get us there, Yeah, they end up. It's gosh, 1192 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 1: what was it was twenty one to sixteen in the 1193 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,720 Speaker 1: third quarter of this game and they give up fourteen 1194 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,799 Speaker 1: and the fourth. So they're competing. They're competing, they're playing hard. 1195 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 1: They don't have the guys they need, but it'll be 1196 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 1: interesing to see what their timeline is with with Kyler. 1197 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, real quick before we go, just because it's 1198 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 2: it's setting up that way at least as it stands 1199 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,360 Speaker 2: through four weeks, Bears with picks one in two. I know, 1200 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 2: it's unbelievad Are you are you? Are you a quarterback? 1201 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,360 Speaker 2: Are you quarterbacking Arvin Harrison? Or you are quarterback and 1202 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:48,280 Speaker 2: offensive tackle? 1203 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,280 Speaker 1: No, I am quarterback in trade and get the farm 1204 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,880 Speaker 1: for the second quarterback. Hopefully you don't have to go 1205 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,280 Speaker 1: too far. Hopefully there's somebody that's in the top five. 1206 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,439 Speaker 1: That's that's Jones and who that second quarterback is still 1207 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 1: get He's going to get one of her or then 1208 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,360 Speaker 1: you go to the tackle. Yeah, you get one of 1209 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 1: those guys or a pass rusher. But to me, it's 1210 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 1: never been more apparent. And Bryce Young is a great 1211 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,319 Speaker 1: example of this. If you're going to draft a young 1212 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,399 Speaker 1: quarterback the early part of his career, every resource goes 1213 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,799 Speaker 1: to offense. Apologize to your defensive coordinator. We will try 1214 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,480 Speaker 1: and help you out down the line, but right now 1215 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,759 Speaker 1: we are going to just collect as many weapons and 1216 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 1: offensive lineman as we can and we'll fix the defense 1217 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:26,080 Speaker 1: down the road. 1218 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 2: There you go. 1219 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, Bears, gosh there it's the the best and 1220 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 1: the worst of times if you're a Bears fan, because 1221 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,960 Speaker 1: you can you can have some hope and optimism. Man, 1222 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 1: first and second pick, Holy cred, we could really get 1223 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 1: this in this draft. Yeah, oh yeah, it'd be a 1224 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 1: lot of fun. Assuming all these guys don't just keep 1225 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 1: the nil money and stay in college. Who knows? Who knows? 1226 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,279 Speaker 1: All right, well, if Safe travels to Buck, he'll be 1227 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 1: back with us. I think maybe tomorrow he'll be back 1228 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 1: on the show, so we'll have Bucky back with us 1229 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 1: and see what he learned over in London as he 1230 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 1: gets ready to head back to London once again. I 1231 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,319 Speaker 1: appreciate you, buddy, right well extent, we'll be back. I'll 1232 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,840 Speaker 1: see you tomorrow. All right, there you go, that's it. 1233 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 1: Move the sticks. We'll see you next time right here, 1234 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 1: m m m