WEBVTT - Aloha Annaliese!

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<v Speaker 1>Hell I Sucking with Dengler, Dared Haven and I heard

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<v Speaker 1>radio podcast What's going on? Sucky Daters. We're here for

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<v Speaker 1>all new episode of your favorite podcast. It's called Help

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<v Speaker 1>I Suck At Dating. Usual suspects are here. It's myself,

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<v Speaker 1>Jared Haven somewhere on the East Coast, and a woman

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<v Speaker 1>that we've seen on this podcast before. She's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>co hosting with us this week. It's Analyze Puccini. What

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<v Speaker 1>is up? Analyse? How are you? I'm good. It's good

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<v Speaker 1>to see you, guys. It's been forever. It has been

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<v Speaker 1>a while. We'll fill us in. Why has it been

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<v Speaker 1>so long? What have you been doing? Analys What have

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<v Speaker 1>you been up to? I feel like we have. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, it's been forever, So what's been going on

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<v Speaker 1>in your life? Give us an update? Like we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>talked him favorite, Well, if you haven't heard, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>quarantine going on each other. That's that's a good way.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good way to put it. Let's say like

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<v Speaker 1>aliens came to Earth and they have no idea what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on, and you have to describe you're to them

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of fill them out what's going on? So

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<v Speaker 1>what's analysis been like? It started out really great and

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<v Speaker 1>I think probably like many of us, were super excited

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<v Speaker 1>about twenty right, We're all like vision, It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be so amazing, and then proof, Um, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>felt really guilty a lot of times during this year

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<v Speaker 1>because I was like, my year has been pretty great,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I think I just had like streams like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of us too, it was like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how the world's doing, but I'm doing pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt really I felt really bad because people would

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<v Speaker 1>be like, how are you. I'm like, I'm living in

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<v Speaker 1>how I went on a road trip like life was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good, and then all of a sudden, like my

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<v Speaker 1>hit that that like bang that everyone else had been

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<v Speaker 1>going through and just had been feeling it to front

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<v Speaker 1>times during this whole year, right, like we've all gone

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<v Speaker 1>through our extreme highs and lows. So when did I

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<v Speaker 1>When did I see you? Was it earlier this year?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it last year? I think I saw you guys

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<v Speaker 1>for it was right around Was it Valentine's Day last year?

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<v Speaker 1>Or was it or this year? I think it might

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<v Speaker 1>have been Valentine's Day this year. That's insane to think

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<v Speaker 1>that we were in a crowded auditorium just in February. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're yeah, we did, but right, yeah it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was almost famous live podcast. Uh. And it was in

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<v Speaker 1>front of like three people and you were there. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Jed was there to do a musical performance. Interesting choice,

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<v Speaker 1>but I actually quite enjoyed Jed. He was quite nice. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, to think that that was in February. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was the last time I saw you. And the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that we were in a room with four other

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<v Speaker 1>people is insane. Actually, I saw you guys a lot

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning of the year. And then this is

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<v Speaker 1>making me sad too, because I was like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>usually see Dean pewbl Beach at the program. That won't

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<v Speaker 1>be happening. But he's not golfing though, because if you

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<v Speaker 1>got the pebble Beach, he'd shoot at least a one

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<v Speaker 1>oh five. I don't know. I've been playing pretty good lately.

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<v Speaker 1>I joined the country club. I gotta play golf whenever

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<v Speaker 1>I want. For country club, Yeah, you should join. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a good referral bonus if you joined. Where's

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<v Speaker 1>the country club. It's called Bramar Country Club. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like Tarzana Ah that's the most anti Dean

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<v Speaker 1>thing I've ever heard. You joined on. Let me get

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<v Speaker 1>this straight. In the past month, you've put a lease

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<v Speaker 1>in a place in Los Angeles, and you've bought a

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<v Speaker 1>place in Nevada. You've joined a country club. Who the

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<v Speaker 1>hell are you? I know, Calin's really domesticated me. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of embarrassing to be to be totally honest, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's not the topic of conversation. Here. Join the country club.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll show you how much, how how capable I am

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<v Speaker 1>of handling you at Pebble Beach if it comes to that,

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<v Speaker 1>But analyze. So You're right, we do normally see a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of each other in that Pebble Beach. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a question for you. I think did I see something

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<v Speaker 1>that you moved to Hawaii? Is that where you are

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<v Speaker 1>right now? I am. I had to close on my

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<v Speaker 1>windows because the sun is coming up right now and

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<v Speaker 1>the birds go crazy, so kind of like your dog's Jared,

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<v Speaker 1>the birds would be echoing in the Dude, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the hell is going on outside this door.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I just texted Ashley, I was like, what

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<v Speaker 1>the hell is going on? Is the mailman? Like antagonizing

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<v Speaker 1>the dogs right outside the window. They're losing it. For

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<v Speaker 1>the record, Jared, every single week, it seems like you

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea what's going on with them, because they

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<v Speaker 1>definitely are just a rambunctious couple of pups. Well, Lois

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<v Speaker 1>is quite adorable, but she's also quite unpredictable. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny because you're on East Coast time, which is

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<v Speaker 1>twelve noon when we started this, I'm on West Coast

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<v Speaker 1>time nine am, and analyze, it's got to be six

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<v Speaker 1>am over there it's seven. Luckily they don't. They don't savings,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh. But still, I mean, that's even getting

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<v Speaker 1>up for a nine am. I was like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>what time you usually wake up? Antaly's I keep all

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<v Speaker 1>of my windows and so I rise with the sun.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty great, I would say, I get up. I

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<v Speaker 1>get six thirty probably every day, just naturally six. So

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<v Speaker 1>all right, well let's let's ask the question. At least

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<v Speaker 1>you we have to know about your relationship status, because

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<v Speaker 1>obviously bachelor help my second dating. So are you dating

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<v Speaker 1>someone right now? I'm not. That was kind of when

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<v Speaker 1>I moved to Hawaii. To be honest, I was with

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<v Speaker 1>my X and we signed a six month lease to

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<v Speaker 1>move to Hawaii together, and he broke up with me

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<v Speaker 1>two days before moving, and so I in our house

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<v Speaker 1>for two weeks by myself. It was like the most

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful difficult I don't even know it was the It

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<v Speaker 1>was intense two weeks. I had like no TV, no distractions.

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<v Speaker 1>I took a break from social media, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>was like in it. I like read five books, I

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<v Speaker 1>started therapy again. I did all the things. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I got out of quarantining in that house. I got

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<v Speaker 1>my own place, I bought a car, um and then

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<v Speaker 1>he moved here less than a month later with his

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<v Speaker 1>new girlfriend. Me. What yeah, so that is my quarantine

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<v Speaker 1>love story. All right? Hold on, how long were you

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<v Speaker 1>guys dating before you decided, hey, let's move to Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 1>So we met actually the weekend that I was with

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<v Speaker 1>you guys. I met him in February, um, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it was just like a very We just hit it

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<v Speaker 1>off instantly. We like skied in Tahoe. We met in Tahoe,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was living in San Francisco too, and so

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<v Speaker 1>we like we're able to see each other a ton.

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<v Speaker 1>And then obviously because of like San Francisco kind of

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<v Speaker 1>shutting down. All the big cities are sort of doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>He moved in with me, so we lived in Tahoe together.

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<v Speaker 1>We like we went on at a big road trip

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<v Speaker 1>and um, we spent a lot of time with his

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<v Speaker 1>family and my family, and then we were like, what

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<v Speaker 1>are we gonna do because being are not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be opening back up in San Francisco for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>So we were like, where can we do all of

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<v Speaker 1>the things still and just be outside And he chose why, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I'm in the same same little town as him.

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<v Speaker 1>Because our initial plan was to get here and like

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<v Speaker 1>work on things. It was just to like take a

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<v Speaker 1>step back because we were like we really were that

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<v Speaker 1>relationship where I think a lot of people can relate

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like you met and then it was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well do you want to be alone? No, so like

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<v Speaker 1>let's just move in together and just be together all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. So we were like, maybe we just need

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<v Speaker 1>to slow things down and like take a step back.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was the plan. The plan was like he

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<v Speaker 1>would still have the place, I would get my own place,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe like do some couples therapy, like date like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not just be like living together immediately, but date, and

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<v Speaker 1>so that was that kind of went out the window

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<v Speaker 1>when he brought his new girlfriend. That's so crazy to

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<v Speaker 1>me that he brought his new girl for it. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like two days after we broke up, he was like

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<v Speaker 1>posting pictures with her already. I was like, cool, have

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<v Speaker 1>you have you confronted him about it at all or

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<v Speaker 1>like like almost daily and he has yet to say

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<v Speaker 1>one word to me, But what the hell is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on, so you're telling me that you guys dated

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<v Speaker 1>med in February. It was a pretty intense relationship obviously

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<v Speaker 1>because during quarantine, you moved in together. Then you guys decided, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's move to Hawaii together. But you were getting two

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<v Speaker 1>separate places but moving to the same town in Hawaii. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you're only were getting one place. But then when he

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<v Speaker 1>broke up with me, it was like it was like

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<v Speaker 1>a week long breakup of like, Okay, do we really

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<v Speaker 1>want this? Maybe we don't, and so it was like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we just need to take a step back. So

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<v Speaker 1>so it was like, but during that two weeks we

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<v Speaker 1>were broken up, and then during that I guess twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hours after we broke up, though, he was like

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<v Speaker 1>onto the next so overlap. I have no idea what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on there, but I feel like, because I

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<v Speaker 1>need to figure you this out. So so then after

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<v Speaker 1>you guys broke up, You're like, okay, you you still

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<v Speaker 1>decided I'm going to still move to Hawaii. And he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm still going to move to Hawaii as well.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a little bit more iffy. He wasn't sure,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wasn't sure how long I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>do it for. I had had a bunch of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>already sent here, and so I was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna go and like do me like this

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<v Speaker 1>is still my just as much my experience, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a great place to heal and I do

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<v Speaker 1>know some people here, and so I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna go, and maybe I'll only stay for two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I quarantined in the house for two weeks, pack

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<v Speaker 1>up my stuff, and I fly back to San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>Um So that was like a total possibility. But then

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<v Speaker 1>I got out of it and I was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, no, Like he doesn't win this this experience,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I can move to Hawaii to I've moved to

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<v Speaker 1>different countries and other skates and like I've done alone time,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I can do it, and I was like thriving.

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<v Speaker 1>I Um yeah, I just felt like a total badass.

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<v Speaker 1>To be honest, those two weeks, I was like I

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<v Speaker 1>started writing a book. I just was. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe this is what maybe this whole experience was meant

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<v Speaker 1>to bring me here. This sounds like the story from

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<v Speaker 1>Forgetting Sarah Marshall, where like they break up a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and I rewatched that movie and I was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is my life. You are Jason Siegel, which means that

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<v Speaker 1>whoever this girl is, that that's dude is dating as

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<v Speaker 1>Russell Brand. And I don't like this. So I'm confused,

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<v Speaker 1>Like how he thought it was okay for him to

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<v Speaker 1>move into the same town again. Wouldn't he be like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, if I'm gonna go to Hawaii, First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>why would I go to Hawaii when my ex girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>is already going to go there. And I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>to Hawaii with my new girlfriend and not only to Hawaii,

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<v Speaker 1>but the same town that I know my ex girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>is now in. Yeah, that's wrong with this guy. We

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<v Speaker 1>may never know. Well, I'm sorry, they have to go

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<v Speaker 1>through that. And you see him daily, you say, I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty frequently. It's a small town. So I see him

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<v Speaker 1>at the grocery store, walking on the beach, surfing, like,

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<v Speaker 1>and he even acknowledge existence. Nope, well you can do

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<v Speaker 1>much better than this guy. I'll tell you that. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's the thing. Like, it's definitely been difficult

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<v Speaker 1>because he was like my my person during all this,

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<v Speaker 1>like he was my safety neck. He was the person

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<v Speaker 1>I felt the most comfortable with. We got, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like six and a half months together during quarantine. Living

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<v Speaker 1>with just one person, that's like two years. That's like

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<v Speaker 1>we spent a month with my family, a month with

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<v Speaker 1>his family. I mean you're like you're in it twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hours a day. So we got to know each

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<v Speaker 1>other really well. So I think the hardest thing for

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<v Speaker 1>me right now is just like the I do miss

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<v Speaker 1>like my my like buddy, like my best friend that

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<v Speaker 1>I had for six months that we did all the

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<v Speaker 1>fun things. But now I'm I'm like I can still

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same thing with coming to my It's like

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<v Speaker 1>I can still do all those things. Like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need him. I don't need a man so that's where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm surfing, I'm golfing, I'm joining your country

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<v Speaker 1>club to d and say so in ways that all

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<v Speaker 1>things considered then have you like obviously with with COVID

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff, it makes a little bit more difficult. But

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<v Speaker 1>what is the dating scene as a as a newly

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<v Speaker 1>single woman out and how I've been like, um, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not easy, but I'm definitely dating. Like it's a weird.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very strange to be dating during COVID. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I feel like people here it's like such

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<v Speaker 1>a community, such a small community. That's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things I'm super grateful for. But people really like rally

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<v Speaker 1>around to especially in my situation, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>know and they're just like as soon as there's some

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<v Speaker 1>single guy that they know that is an eligible bachelor,

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, hey, let me let me introduce you. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the dates here are a lot of just

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<v Speaker 1>like let's go hike a waterfall and um, or let's

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<v Speaker 1>go surfing together or something like that. So their chill

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<v Speaker 1>I've had Like it's a small island though too, so

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<v Speaker 1>there's numerous conversations that I've already had to have where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, I don't I don't want to have

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<v Speaker 1>like a reputation. I don't want to be like dating everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>so like I just want to be friends with you

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<v Speaker 1>and like if it develops into something down the road whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>but like just friends. Now this sounds like Bachelor in Paradise. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I do feel like my boundaries. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it's like coming off of a breakup or

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<v Speaker 1>if it's like again being on a small island. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good thing, but there's definitely I have much

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<v Speaker 1>stronger boundaries that I'm putting up and just like being

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more open um about like where I'm at

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<v Speaker 1>and like what my expectations are in relationships. So I've

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<v Speaker 1>been super super upfront with everyone that I've met because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to lead anyone on. That's the other

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<v Speaker 1>thing I think in this, Like during all of this,

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<v Speaker 1>it's super easy to just be like, oh I am lonely,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's like the wrong reason to ever be with anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, I need to just be good on my

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<v Speaker 1>own and like have If there's somebody that really sparks

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<v Speaker 1>my interest, great, but there just hasn't been anyone that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, I kind of want to make out

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<v Speaker 1>with you. I feel like dating in Hawaii has to

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<v Speaker 1>be similar to dating from like a mountain town where

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up, and it's just like it's so small

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<v Speaker 1>that everyone kind of like knows each other. Uh. Single

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<v Speaker 1>people don't stay single along and like if they do,

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<v Speaker 1>you like they're probably single for a reason sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's just it's tricky because it's like

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<v Speaker 1>everyone kind of knows each other. Uh, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>second someone gets single, it's like, okay, uh, We're like

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<v Speaker 1>then they're like off the market just as quick because

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<v Speaker 1>they were on it, and you just don't have quite

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<v Speaker 1>as much like options, I guess, you know, so you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be you have just play things a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit differently. It's just everyone says here, they're like you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get them fresh off the plane, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe from an uber driver, just like from the airport.

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<v Speaker 1>So that right, how are you in town for? All? Right? Well, analyze,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to take a quick break. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>kind of want to play a game with you. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you have you been watching Bachelorette? Haven't you haven't? No,

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<v Speaker 1>never mind, we're not playing the game. Then I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say who. I was gonna see who you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to see down in Paradise, because if you're single and

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<v Speaker 1>you go back to Bachelor in Paradise, which I've already

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<v Speaker 1>announced is going to happen again in one, I'm interested

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<v Speaker 1>to see who you analyse would like to see down

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<v Speaker 1>in that island. And I was gonna play a game

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<v Speaker 1>with you with this season, but darn it, never mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I said, we played anyways and just based off

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<v Speaker 1>the names. All right, cool, are you down to play analyze?

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<v Speaker 1>I know that there's I think there's two three guys

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that I people have been like you should date

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<v Speaker 1>this person, but all right, well, don't say their names

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<v Speaker 1>right now. We'll tell we'll tell you. We're gonna tell

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<v Speaker 1>suck Army what the three names are the analyes of

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<v Speaker 1>the three names that guys that anally should date down

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<v Speaker 1>in Bachelor in Paradise right after we take a quick break.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, welcome back to help I suck at dating myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm jared by the way, Dean we have analyze of

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<v Speaker 1>course you know her from our season of The Bachelor

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<v Speaker 1>and Bachelor in Paradise. Uh, and analyze before we took

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<v Speaker 1>a break with tease that there were three guys. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people have been commenting to you that you

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<v Speaker 1>should be uh keeping an eye out in case you

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<v Speaker 1>walk down those faithful stairs and bachelor and Paradise again.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you tell us who the three guys are? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know their names. I was literally just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna google it. But Dean I started this just made

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<v Speaker 1>me think of you a little bit, um because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you were on a similar trajectory. You were

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<v Speaker 1>like never going on Paradise again. You were living in

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<v Speaker 1>a van. I was like living in a trailer for

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<v Speaker 1>a good portion of this summer. I'm like never going

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<v Speaker 1>on Paradise again. And now you guys are asking me

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<v Speaker 1>about her days. Well, I mean he followed the path

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<v Speaker 1>to success. I walked so you could run analyis. Yeah, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it feels like the farthest thing from anything

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<v Speaker 1>I would want to do right now? Um, okay, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>should I just google? I don't even know the names

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<v Speaker 1>of any of the of the guys on this season?

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<v Speaker 1>Well how about this? How about how about jaredald say

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<v Speaker 1>the name that he thinks and then explain the guy

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<v Speaker 1>and why he thinks. You guys would be good for

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<v Speaker 1>each other. That's what I think we should do. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is just this is gonna be really Jared, We're

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<v Speaker 1>relying pretty heavily on you here, all right. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>first guy, obviously, he was a big name on this season. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He fell in love with Asia. She let him go,

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<v Speaker 1>but then he came back. But then, of course, ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>it shows somebody else. I'm talking about Ben Smith. Now

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<v Speaker 1>do you know who Ben Smith is? Annaly's Um, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they do, alright, perfect, very good looking, great body. He

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<v Speaker 1>also at one point during the season stripped Nate Kid

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<v Speaker 1>in front of Tasta, just so his vulnerability. Interesting choice,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think uh a lot of women out there

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed it. Uh. So he is from Indianapolis, so kind

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<v Speaker 1>of far, but you know, long distance relationships can work.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he'd be very open to moving to Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a coach at Deuce Jim Deuce. Interesting choice, uh

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<v Speaker 1>for the name of Jim, but I like it. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's one of the Bachelor's who Uh he went

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<v Speaker 1>on Claire season. Uh. And he was a part of

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<v Speaker 1>the recasting apparently after so he was not a part

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<v Speaker 1>of the original cast. I didn't know that that's insane. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And then COVID hit and then there was like this

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<v Speaker 1>six month delay and then they cast it into beyond Clais.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a pretty interesting so judging by his picture, how

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<v Speaker 1>old is he? Ben is? He's twenty nine years old.

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<v Speaker 1>He lives in Venice right now, but he's from Indianapolis.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an army vet. Uh. He works at a gym

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<v Speaker 1>fitness guy. What do you think, Um, I would go

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<v Speaker 1>on a date with him. I don't know if I'd

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<v Speaker 1>go on a date with him in Paradise, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do. I mean, I would go on a date

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<v Speaker 1>with him. He's very good looking and charming. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lie. Um. Yeah, he I actually have seen you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you go to the homepage on Instagram or the

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<v Speaker 1>search or whatever and you can see people, it always

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<v Speaker 1>pops up with everything. So that's the only way that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm aware of things going on on on Bachelor at

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<v Speaker 1>this season. But I've seen him pop up, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>The next guy that I want to talk about. His

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<v Speaker 1>name is Bennett. Bennett. Jordan's Annalys. Have you heard about Bennett. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be a hard pass through me, but let

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<v Speaker 1>me give you the bio is so Bennett, of course

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<v Speaker 1>is a gentleman of Harvard. Uh, something that I strive

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<v Speaker 1>to be. He's thirty seven, so a little you know, mature.

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<v Speaker 1>He's from Atlanta. I don't know if he lives there

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I think he lives in New York. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And again he was one of the recasting guys. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't originally on the show, got recascid after COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an interesting human being, very Uh. How how the

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<v Speaker 1>hell do you even explained Bennett? Just like such a

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<v Speaker 1>caricature of what a gentleman of Harvard would be. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's just like who he actually is. So we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go hard pass with Bennett. Somebody wrote on my like

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<v Speaker 1>a comment, so they said you should date Bennett. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I could see you guys in the Hampton's eating lobster together,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, m I don't really think that

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<v Speaker 1>that's my vibe at the moment. It's more like walking

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<v Speaker 1>a mile with no shoes on and not brushing my

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<v Speaker 1>hair for a week vibe. I don't know if Bennett

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<v Speaker 1>would be into it. Is that your perfect date? Like

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<v Speaker 1>if you had to explain your perfect first date? What

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<v Speaker 1>would it be. I mean right now, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>probably like surfing and then getting fish tacos afterwards, or yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds like an incredible first day and then getting

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<v Speaker 1>fish taco is afterwards. Anything involved in fish tacle is

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a cocktail, some water activity I'm in Yeah, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like a like by the beach. I'd like to point

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<v Speaker 1>out to that Becky, one of the producers on our podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>found her boyfriend through this podcast. So maybe someone on

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<v Speaker 1>this unnamed, unnamed island in Hawaii is listening to this

0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:26.879
<v Speaker 1>and being do you want to hear speaking of astrology

0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:29.680
<v Speaker 1>my horoscope this morning? I was like, maybe I am

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<v Speaker 1>meeting him on on help. I stuck at dating today.

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<v Speaker 1>What did it say? It says a new person could

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<v Speaker 1>come into your life who's powerful, magnetic magnetic charisma you

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<v Speaker 1>find captivating, but be careful it doesn't distract you from

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<v Speaker 1>what you need to get done. There's a lot more,

0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:49.119
<v Speaker 1>but but that was what it started with. So who

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<v Speaker 1>is powerful and has magnetic charisma? Baby Bennett would definitely

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<v Speaker 1>not deaner myself, No, absolutely not, and always have a

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<v Speaker 1>question for you. Actually that I think is very pertinent

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<v Speaker 1>to this conversation. So you've dated both people from you know,

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<v Speaker 1>after your experience both people from Vachelination and people that

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<v Speaker 1>are not from Vachelination, do you have a preference of

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<v Speaker 1>one or the other. I mean, people are people at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day. I gotta I have to

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<v Speaker 1>feel like for me, I would hope that people would

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<v Speaker 1>give me a chance. My experience though, is that it

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<v Speaker 1>is not easy dating people who have not been on

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<v Speaker 1>The Bachelor after having been on it. That makes sense,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're saying, you're saying it's easier, but I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>not as easy. It's not easy. Like I do think

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<v Speaker 1>that that was a huge um. I think it's exciting

0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:45.040
<v Speaker 1>and then scary. Maybe if somebody was like an influencer

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<v Speaker 1>or something too, they kind of understand the the like

0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:52.920
<v Speaker 1>hype around it sometimes. But I think I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>fun in the beginning. Like I think the guys that

0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:57.200
<v Speaker 1>I've dated are like, oh my god, you got recognized,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that was kind of cool. They maybe don't say that,

0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:02.199
<v Speaker 1>but you can like sense that from their vibe. And

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<v Speaker 1>then after you're like a couple of months in and

0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:09.399
<v Speaker 1>you're you want to post a picture or something like that,

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:12.680
<v Speaker 1>and there's like, like, for instance, my ex um. I

0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:14.720
<v Speaker 1>remember when I posted pictures of him, like all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, it was like, I think it just became

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<v Speaker 1>a little too overwhelming. It was like, well, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot you know, Oh totally, I can completely understand.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about this with a lot of previous cast

0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:26.879
<v Speaker 1>members and how it just adds another layer of pressure

0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:30.840
<v Speaker 1>to the relationship that isn't there unless you've been on Bachelor,

0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:34.720
<v Speaker 1>because everybody knows you from dating on television, so they're

0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:36.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about your relationships. They're gonna talk about your

0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:38.520
<v Speaker 1>ex is, They're going to talk about who they think

0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:41.199
<v Speaker 1>you should be with, or it's just like this weird dynamic.

0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:43.280
<v Speaker 1>And even like you said, if you want to post

0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:45.240
<v Speaker 1>a picture of a new relationship, it's not just you

0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:47.400
<v Speaker 1>posting a picture of your boyfriend. It's posting a picture

0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:49.639
<v Speaker 1>of someone that people are going to comment and judge

0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:52.840
<v Speaker 1>and and think that you are in like this really deep,

0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:56.879
<v Speaker 1>loving relationship when maybe it's just a good relationship and

0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:58.320
<v Speaker 1>you don't know where it's going. But so you have

0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:00.760
<v Speaker 1>to keep it private on Instagram and then overthink things

0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:03.600
<v Speaker 1>and it just complicates everything. It's weird. Yeah, Well, and

0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:06.359
<v Speaker 1>then it's also just like family and friends and things

0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 1>like that, like with my ax. I remember when I

0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:12.959
<v Speaker 1>when I first posted like the night that I met him,

0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:17.359
<v Speaker 1>we um went it was a drunk night, but we

0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:21.240
<v Speaker 1>went into his hot tub and I posted not of

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:24.440
<v Speaker 1>him just walking down the steps to his hot tub.

0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:28.040
<v Speaker 1>And his friends, I guess followed me on the East Coast,

0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:30.800
<v Speaker 1>who like I didn't know, but they followed me and

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:33.920
<v Speaker 1>they messaged him and we're like, oh my god, are

0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 1>you hanging out with me? An at least right now?

0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:40.920
<v Speaker 1>And so then like they had opinions about me because

0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:43.160
<v Speaker 1>they had watched me on the show. So like his girls,

0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:46.240
<v Speaker 1>his friends that were girls were like, oh man, she's

0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:48.359
<v Speaker 1>this bad and the other thing. And it's just stuper

0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:51.280
<v Speaker 1>unfair because it's like, I mean, luckily to know me

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:54.760
<v Speaker 1>and liked me, but it's um it also puts that

0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:58.040
<v Speaker 1>target on your back, like, oh is she gonna just

0:24:58.200 --> 0:25:01.080
<v Speaker 1>want this? Like is you know? Like what are like?

0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I get a lot of times like what are your motives?

0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Or things like that. I'm like, what are you? Like?

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:08.439
<v Speaker 1>Why do I have motives? You know? Like I'm just

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:11.119
<v Speaker 1>a person who wants to date somebody. And if I

0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:12.879
<v Speaker 1>have a connection with you, I have a connection with you,

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:17.639
<v Speaker 1>but um, people bring your character from TV into who

0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 1>you are in real life. Also, I like to always

0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:25.720
<v Speaker 1>point out we're all about to grow and change constantly,

0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:28.000
<v Speaker 1>and that's actually a great thing. We should all be

0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:31.760
<v Speaker 1>growing and changing. So I am not the person I

0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 1>was a year ago, let alone three years ago. So

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:40.240
<v Speaker 1>I am changing and evolving daily. And yeah, I like,

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:42.000
<v Speaker 1>you're not even the same person that you were when

0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:45.760
<v Speaker 1>you started this podcast. No, oh my god, growing and

0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 1>evolving second by second. No, but that does frustrate me

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:50.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot when people are like, yeah, but you were

0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 1>this person and I'm like, yeah, and you know, like

0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:58.679
<v Speaker 1>you said, we're all we're all changing and growing. If

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:02.119
<v Speaker 1>we're not changing and we're not rown, then something is wrong.

0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 1>But I totally agree. I remember going on dates like

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:07.800
<v Speaker 1>after the show and people would come up and I'd

0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:10.479
<v Speaker 1>be with, you know, a girl on a date, and

0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:13.399
<v Speaker 1>then like girls would come up and asked me about

0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:16.919
<v Speaker 1>Ashley and Caitlin and I was like, this is freaking awkward.

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:19.439
<v Speaker 1>Uh So totally get where you're coming. All right, one

0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:22.520
<v Speaker 1>last guy and then we're gonna move on. I'm gonna

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:26.640
<v Speaker 1>ask you about a guy who is easy on the eyes.

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:31.040
<v Speaker 1>He's thirty. He's a Massachusetts guy. He's a local for me,

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:33.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, I love my New England boys. His name

0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 1>is Brendan Morris. Brandon. Uh is known for wearing his

0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 1>turtlenecks on the show Very Nice Man Again. He was

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:47.680
<v Speaker 1>recasted after the pandemic Great Choice thirty years old. Massachusetts

0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:51.200
<v Speaker 1>guy loves turtlenecks, so analyzes. Could you see yourself dating

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 1>a guy who loves turtlenecks even though you're looking white? Um?

0:26:57.800 --> 0:26:59.719
<v Speaker 1>He could just get what are they called? Like are

0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:02.679
<v Speaker 1>they dick what are those things? But you know, just

0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:05.800
<v Speaker 1>like the half turtleneck. It's just the turtleneck with like

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 1>the neck and you put it under like another sweater

0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:10.879
<v Speaker 1>or it's like a collar, but it doesn't it's not

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:14.480
<v Speaker 1>a full shirt. Is that for like cold weather? No,

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 1>it's just like I think back in the eighties people

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 1>would do it a lot, like they have like a yeah,

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:22.400
<v Speaker 1>a dickie, I think is what it's called. I'm gonna

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 1>google a dickie and if something bad comes up, I'm

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:30.399
<v Speaker 1>blaming you. Uh yeah, he could just like rock board

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:37.880
<v Speaker 1>shorts and and a little turtleneck dickie. Um, sounds so bad. Uh. Yeah,

0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:40.200
<v Speaker 1>he was one of the top guys, right what you're

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 1>talking He was third. I think he's cute. He seems nice. Alright, cool, alright, perfect,

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:49.879
<v Speaker 1>So we got it. We got two out of three

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:53.119
<v Speaker 1>dates for you, you know, paradise, real life, wherever happens.

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:54.920
<v Speaker 1>At least we got two out of three. We're hitting sixty.

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 1>By the way. I also just googled turtleneck dickie, and

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:01.439
<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what came up. I've never seen this in

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 1>my life. It's like a cowl. It's like the Batman

0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>cowl that goes over your neck and then you tuck

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:08.440
<v Speaker 1>it under your shirt. Why wouldn't you just buy a turtleneck?

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:12.439
<v Speaker 1>What's the point of this um layering? I don't know,

0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:16.560
<v Speaker 1>if you have like a blade. Well, yeah, I feel

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:17.960
<v Speaker 1>like it was like back in the day when you

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:20.879
<v Speaker 1>wear like a turtleneck within like a sweatshirt on top.

0:28:20.960 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Like in the eighties, people would do stuff like like that.

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:25.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, the eighties. God, what a great decade. At

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 1>least I've got a question. Oh that is so interesting.

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I just googled it too. It's it's funny, uh of

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:34.120
<v Speaker 1>all of the because even on Paradise twice, right, correct

0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 1>me if I'm wrong. Yes, Is there anyone that you

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 1>maybe wish that you got to know better? While we're

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 1>on the topic of dating Bachelor contestants, is there anyone

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 1>that you maybe didn't give enough of a chance to

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 1>that you later regretted. No, Remember when you and Kenny,

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 1>when you're in Kenny we're an item. I thought that

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 1>was so great. I love Kenny. He's fantastic. And obviously

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 1>he left because he had to get back to his daughter,

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 1>I think is what it was. But that was just

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:05.240
<v Speaker 1>that was a pairing that I didn't expect. But the

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 1>second I saw it, I was like, that's great. Any

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 1>more of this. I'm sad that didn't happen, that that

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:12.560
<v Speaker 1>did become a bigger thing, you know. I mean, he's

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:15.760
<v Speaker 1>in a serious relationship now, so I feel like it

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 1>was not meant to be for us. Um. But the

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 1>thing that I do love about Paradise and hate about

0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm like being reminded now of like getting back into

0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 1>the dating world. Paradise is one of those things where

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 1>you like, we really get to know everyone on such

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 1>a different level, and so you give people a chance

0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 1>that maybe you normally wouldn't, like, for instance, our swipe culture.

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 1>That's what's so hard about dating, especially like in COVID times,

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 1>because you can't go out to like a bar and

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 1>and just meet somebody in person. Is it. Like people

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 1>will message me and they'll be like, oh, I want

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 1>to set you up with somebody, and they'll send me

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:56.480
<v Speaker 1>a picture and then you just instantly get a vibe

0:29:56.520 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>sometimes from a picture and you're like no, But if

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:02.440
<v Speaker 1>you actually meet the person and get to know them,

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 1>if you're like, oh, they're into the same things as

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I am, Like we just have really great banter. Um,

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 1>you don't know those things unless you're like face to

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 1>face with somebody. And in Paradise, that's one of the

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:16.320
<v Speaker 1>things that I like is that you you maybe go

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:18.959
<v Speaker 1>in with your top picks, but until you actually like

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 1>sit and have a conversation. Like Kenny was so so smart,

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 1>and I remember him like reciting poetry that like he

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>had memorized and um what moves. I remember there was

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 1>one night, Well, you're like reciting poetry together. I was like,

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 1>this is pretty freaking cool. Uh So yeah, I mean,

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 1>you don't know those things about people until you actually,

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Like he and I were friends, you know, and then

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 1>and then it developed, and then I was like, I

0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>think it's just a friend's thing, but um, but it

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 1>was nice to explore it and see if there was

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 1>something there. You know. Do you have you ever recited

0:30:55.440 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 1>poetry to Caitlin? Um? Yeah, probably such a dramatic pause. Yes,

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 1>they answer that question, Jared is a resounding yes. What

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 1>was it? Well, I mean, let's be real, every time

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I speak it basically poetry obviously, how could I have

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 1>possibly forgotten that poetry is Yeah, I mean sexy, it's

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean I've saying happy birthday for her before. That's

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:32.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of a poem in a sense. Uh uh yeah.

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>What about you, Jake? Uh? Well, I think that there

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 1>really is no you know, there really is no barrier

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:44.360
<v Speaker 1>to what a poem could be. Especially it just kind

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:47.520
<v Speaker 1>of bloils down to your willingness to recite it in

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:50.280
<v Speaker 1>a way that is poetic. So yeah, I would say

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I would say that I've I've read poetry to her.

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 1>What about you? Have you ever read poetry to? Actually? Well,

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 1>I've written cards, like I've said before, whether it be

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Valentine's Day, birthdays, Chris Smiths, where I write, I guess

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 1>rhyming poems to Ash. Uh. They're very you know, like

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 1>third grade level, but it's really just the thought behind it.

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I use a crayon just to really hammer home

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 1>the inner child of the whole thing. Kind of creepy,

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 1>but you know, it works. Sometimes it's it's quite nice.

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 1>But I gotta really get on Kenny's level, because Kenny

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 1>just sounds way more uh seductive and uh and romantic

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>than me writing a rhyming poem to Ash. I don't

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 1>know why I didn't remember this, but when we were

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 1>in Paradise, Kaitlin and I, when we were filming, I

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 1>wrote her two poems for her birthday, And obviously we

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:39.240
<v Speaker 1>all know what happened at the end of the birthday.

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 1>But there were two poems. One of them was silly

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 1>talking about I can't remember what it was, well, I

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 1>can't remember, but it was inappropriate, so I'm not going

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:48.280
<v Speaker 1>to share it. And the other one was like a

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>cute little poem and she read them and then it

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 1>aired any of it, and I was very sad because

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I worked very hard on those poems. Well, I'm sure

0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 1>it's but it isn't the counts man. I'm sure she

0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed it. Yeah, yeah, she it. I think at least

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:03.719
<v Speaker 1>she claims to have. She had to enjoy it at

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 1>least a little bit right right right, right right right

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 1>well in at least the years in the rear view mirror. Uh,

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>tell us what you have in store for yourself, what

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>you're excited about, what you're leaving behind, And to stay

0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 1>on topic of dating, what someone might be able to

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:28.360
<v Speaker 1>do in to catch your attention moving forward. Oh man,

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I need to do some journaling today

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 1>and these are some questions I need to be asking myself. Um,

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:42.680
<v Speaker 1>let's see. Well, um, I'm I'm writing a book that's

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 1>coming out in the beginning of the year. So um

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:50.680
<v Speaker 1>so that's definitely like very exciting. Congratulations. Yeah. And speaking Approachry,

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 1>it's a book approetry. That's something that I got back

0:33:55.680 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 1>into this year. Uh. I think lois for me, like

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 1>for a romantic a partner. I'm really looking for somebody

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 1>who uh like doesn't walks the walk and talks the talk,

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:16.360
<v Speaker 1>like especially in healing. I feel like that's been a

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:21.720
<v Speaker 1>big thing for me recently. Is just uh, it's somebody

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>who's willing to do the work on themselves. Is like

0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 1>a really big thing for me right now, because I

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:29.680
<v Speaker 1>feel like there's a lot of people who just are

0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 1>too afraid of like the demons that they're going to

0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 1>face if they go to therapy or or just sit

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:39.360
<v Speaker 1>in their thoughts, and so I think that that's going

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>to be somebody. I want somebody who's evolved in that way. Um. Interesting,

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 1>that's a good explanation to find someone, because I find

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of people suffer from those demons not

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:54.719
<v Speaker 1>willing to try to fix themselves. Yeah, it's um. I

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 1>think it's been the downfall of a lot of and

0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:00.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm not blaming I think this year or I've gotten

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 1>back into therapy and I've done a lot of work

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 1>on myself, and so I want somebody who matches me

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:08.920
<v Speaker 1>at that level and is not afraid to like to

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:11.799
<v Speaker 1>know that they've gone through difficult times and then face

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:14.960
<v Speaker 1>it and try to actually grow and become a better person.

0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:16.880
<v Speaker 1>So I want somebody who can meet me at that

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 1>level and who, um is willing to work on things

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 1>together too, because I find a lot of the relationships

0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 1>that I'm in like it comes to a close very abruptly,

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:29.319
<v Speaker 1>and I'm always like, this is it, This is not

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 1>like how a relationship you don't just like end it.

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:34.319
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like a you work on things or

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:37.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, and um, and I'm like, I want somebody

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 1>who is willing to work on things. If there's a

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 1>can we circle that for a second, because I've got

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 1>a question for you, and I agree. I think you

0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:49.760
<v Speaker 1>definitely need to be not you specifically, but just everyone

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:51.960
<v Speaker 1>in general. Like you know, blanket, you need to be

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 1>able to like self reflect, focus on the negatives and

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:56.680
<v Speaker 1>and kind of trying to turn them into positive and

0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:59.839
<v Speaker 1>grow from them. In at least you seem to put

0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:02.320
<v Speaker 1>your all unto relationships and you can never be faulted

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:04.400
<v Speaker 1>for that. Why do you feel because I feel like

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 1>every time we have a conversation it's like the guy, uh,

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, like this for like ended abruptly. This guy,

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 1>So what do you think? Because I mean, and you're great.

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 1>We obviously all know you're great, What do you think

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:18.400
<v Speaker 1>it is that you might be doing that might have

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:21.440
<v Speaker 1>these guys ending things so abruptly? Because I can't it's

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 1>hard for me to imagine what it would be because

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 1>obviously all I know you is as a friend, and

0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 1>you you are fantastic and I can't really ever imagine

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:30.239
<v Speaker 1>why guy would do these things. So I'm I'm just

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:34.239
<v Speaker 1>curious what you think that might be. Um, I mean

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 1>this has been like that's something that I've been really

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 1>reflecting on myself because I almost, I almost can say

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 1>every relationship that's ended, every serious relationship has been a

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:52.280
<v Speaker 1>you are perfect, you were the girl I'm gonna marry.

0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:55.319
<v Speaker 1>I just can't now. So I've never had to take

0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 1>accountability for what my part of it is because it's

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:01.400
<v Speaker 1>always just been the guy saying like I don't know

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:03.799
<v Speaker 1>what's going on with me. There's just like I'm just

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:07.800
<v Speaker 1>not ready. And so this last relationship was the first

0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:10.880
<v Speaker 1>time where it was like, Okay, you know what, I

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:14.720
<v Speaker 1>cannot keep going around this cycle and this like track

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:19.920
<v Speaker 1>of this same the same ending. Um. I mean my

0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:23.360
<v Speaker 1>relationship that ended before my this most current X, he

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:25.400
<v Speaker 1>broke up with me two days before we were supposed

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:28.279
<v Speaker 1>to go spend two weeks in France together. I'm like

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:31.279
<v Speaker 1>the two days two days before kind of thing, and

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 1>it's just like gone overdone. I don't get a say

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:38.879
<v Speaker 1>in it. Um. I think. I mean there's a lot

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 1>that I've I've a lot of healing and learning that

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I've I've done on myself, um in the last couple

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:48.000
<v Speaker 1>of months in trying to figure those things out. And

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of it has to do with

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 1>my boundaries, my attachment style. Um, the I put I

0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 1>do put so much into relationships. I am somebody Like

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 1>talking to my therapist, I was like, I've discovered I

0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:05.719
<v Speaker 1>want an all encompassing relationship. I like that, I like

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:08.759
<v Speaker 1>being with my partner all the time, and um, not

0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 1>a codependent. I mean, I think there's some codependency in

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 1>every relationship, but um, not like an unhealthy codependent relationship.

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 1>But I want somebody who is my best friend to

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:21.360
<v Speaker 1>like we do surf, we do golf, we do hike,

0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:24.759
<v Speaker 1>we ski, like we do all of the things together. Yes,

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>we have our own alone times and friends and things

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:32.839
<v Speaker 1>like that too. But um, in this last relationship when

0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:36.640
<v Speaker 1>it ended, there was a lot of like it was

0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of questions at the end from him of

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:42.480
<v Speaker 1>like I was almost thirty six. That I was like

0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:44.600
<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks before my birthday and so he

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:47.840
<v Speaker 1>was like, you're almost thirty six, Like what are you

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 1>doing with your life? And like you know, um, yeah,

0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:54.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean they were pretty crappy questions, but at the

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:58.640
<v Speaker 1>time it really did get me thinking of like who

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:01.040
<v Speaker 1>I am, because I think that's a huge thing. I

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:03.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you guys feel this way, but since

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:05.720
<v Speaker 1>doing The Bachelor, and I think it was probably before

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 1>then too, but I think the Bachelor only, like uh,

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:11.359
<v Speaker 1>intensified it for me because I don't think I've known

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:14.759
<v Speaker 1>who I was the last couple of years. I am

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 1>who I am through the eyes of others, and so

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 1>this was like the first time for me to step

0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:25.799
<v Speaker 1>back and be like, wait, I'm like I am a

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:29.480
<v Speaker 1>total badass. Like I don't know where along the wine

0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I forgot that, Like when I was thirty, I went

0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:34.960
<v Speaker 1>and did a solo trip through Europe for six months

0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 1>on my own. Like I've lived in other countries, Like

0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:43.319
<v Speaker 1>I said before, I've done all sorts of cool things. Um,

0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 1>I've been through a lot and like where along the

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 1>lines did I lose my confidence and like not in

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:52.759
<v Speaker 1>my worth. And so I've been working a lot on

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 1>like reminding myself of who I am and my value

0:39:57.520 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 1>and what I bring to the table. And like I

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:01.719
<v Speaker 1>remember him saying to me, like what do you bring

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 1>to the table? And now I'm like, oh, I bring

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:07.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot to the same Damn what what a dick?

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:11.200
<v Speaker 1>What an asshole thing to ask? That's crazy, But yeah,

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:12.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was a lot of my a lot

0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:15.439
<v Speaker 1>of myself to him was about like what I'm doing

0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 1>professionally and um, which is like, listen, you're living in

0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Hawaii right now, you know by you're doing just fine. Yeah,

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I know you're kicking asks. You know. It's funny. I

0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 1>did a lot of self reflecting after the show too,

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:32.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's that's awesome because you are a badass

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:34.600
<v Speaker 1>and I'm glad you recognize it. So funny because when

0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:36.799
<v Speaker 1>I did stuff for reflecting, I was like, man, I'm

0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 1>a complete mess and I really need to come to

0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:41.560
<v Speaker 1>terms with this. It's so interesting to hear you say

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:42.960
<v Speaker 1>that you are who you are through the lens of

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:47.520
<v Speaker 1>others because I agree with you, especially when you like

0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:49.239
<v Speaker 1>because I feel the same way and I did for

0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 1>a long time. Uh. I think one of the one

0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:54.840
<v Speaker 1>of the biggest things that I kind of like similar

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:57.719
<v Speaker 1>but slightly tangential at the same time, one of my

0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:01.640
<v Speaker 1>biggest anxiety drivers after going on the TV show was

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I felt like there was so much possibility for me

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:08.360
<v Speaker 1>to do things, and I wasn't like realizing the full

0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:11.919
<v Speaker 1>constraints of the possibilities, you know, Like I was like underachieving,

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 1>uh in whatever ways it was. And I still feel

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:18.240
<v Speaker 1>like I am pretty greatly. But I think that maybe

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of one of the self I like, I

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:22.880
<v Speaker 1>had very little self worth for a long time because

0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:25.400
<v Speaker 1>of that thought process where I was like, oh my gosh,

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:26.799
<v Speaker 1>I can do all these things, but I'm not doing

0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 1>any of them. Um. And I would say therapy helped

0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:33.000
<v Speaker 1>me with that quite a bit, But I think it's

0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:35.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of just like an ongoing process, you know, in

0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:37.400
<v Speaker 1>my opinion at least, But I agree it sounds like

0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:39.880
<v Speaker 1>this guy is a jerk anyways. What kind of questions

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:41.400
<v Speaker 1>this is he asking? Like what does he help to

0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 1>get out of asking you those questions? You know what

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean? Like what an asshole? I mean. The one

0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:47.239
<v Speaker 1>beautiful thing in it, though, is it got me to

0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:50.160
<v Speaker 1>ask those questions to myself, because, like I said, I've

0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:54.480
<v Speaker 1>never was taking any ownership in the previous breakups, and

0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:56.040
<v Speaker 1>in this one it was the first time that I

0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 1>was like, what am I doing with my life? What

0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>do it? One thing that I realized just that I've

0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:03.560
<v Speaker 1>been living, and I think this is like exactly why

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:07.480
<v Speaker 1>The Bachelor was like, yes, let's cast her. Um, I

0:42:07.520 --> 0:42:11.239
<v Speaker 1>was living the life that I designed for myself at

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 1>like eighteen, I thought like by the time I'm twenty six,

0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:16.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be married. By the time I'm thirty, I'm

0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna have babies. And so I've basically just been like

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:21.880
<v Speaker 1>waiting for those things to happen for so my life

0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:24.040
<v Speaker 1>could be like back on track in some way. But

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:25.960
<v Speaker 1>then I'm like, Okay, I'm thirty six, and now, like

0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:27.880
<v Speaker 1>what do I want with my life now? Do I

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:30.279
<v Speaker 1>want kids? Like I don't even know if I want that?

0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Like do I want to get married. I don't know

0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 1>if I want to get married. I would like to

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 1>have a life partner. But there's like all of these

0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:40.320
<v Speaker 1>things that because um of who I was on TV.

0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:43.439
<v Speaker 1>Also then somehow it's really difficult because and I feel

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:45.160
<v Speaker 1>like I have to prove myself. So now I'm kind

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:47.840
<v Speaker 1>of like back back into this place of like and

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:49.880
<v Speaker 1>this is where I'm really happy to be in Hawaii

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:52.960
<v Speaker 1>because I don't feel like there's anyone around that I

0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 1>have to prove myself to or be anyone. But me, Um,

0:42:57.239 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 1>but it is hard, like I do fall back into

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:04.719
<v Speaker 1>the lens of others. Is like the but you you

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:06.880
<v Speaker 1>are that girl that wants to get married and have babies,

0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 1>you are desperate, and I'm like, no, I'm not any

0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:12.000
<v Speaker 1>of those things. Like it's it's a label that was

0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 1>put on me for the enjoyment of others. But like

0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 1>I am me and I know my truth more than anyone,

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:23.720
<v Speaker 1>and so like I'm trying to read, like really hone

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 1>in on that, and I think that's only going to

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:28.480
<v Speaker 1>make me a better partner. And it's gonna like draw

0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:31.480
<v Speaker 1>my partner, my ideal match, like to me too, you

0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:35.120
<v Speaker 1>know absolutely, no, that's great. Um. I think that's awesome.

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:39.040
<v Speaker 1>And we're super happy for you and we're rooting for you, analyst. Um.

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:43.800
<v Speaker 1>And uh, I you're gonna be fine, Like you're beautiful,

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 1>you're living in Hawaii. Uh, You're I I have only

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:50.319
<v Speaker 1>good I can only think that good things are gonna

0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:53.520
<v Speaker 1>happen for you. Uh. And so we're gonna take a

0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:55.400
<v Speaker 1>quick break, uh, and then we're gonna come back on

0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:57.520
<v Speaker 1>the other side. We have a dating term. We have

0:43:57.600 --> 0:44:00.399
<v Speaker 1>some rapid fire questions for Dean and antially and then

0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:02.480
<v Speaker 1>of course we're going to answer an email of yours

0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:15.279
<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna be right back. All right, welcome back

0:44:15.280 --> 0:44:18.160
<v Speaker 1>to what help I suck at dating? I almost said

0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:20.799
<v Speaker 1>welcome back to suck Army. Well, welcome back suck Army

0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:23.560
<v Speaker 1>to help I suck at dating. Like we said before

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 1>the break, we have some rapid fire questions for both

0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:29.840
<v Speaker 1>analyzes and deany babies. We have an email from you guys,

0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:32.319
<v Speaker 1>and we also have a dating term. So let's do

0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:34.160
<v Speaker 1>the dating term first. So, Analyst, I don't know if

0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:37.880
<v Speaker 1>you know this, but we define a dating term. I

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 1>present a new dating term for the week, and then

0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 1>everybody here on the panel helps to define it. So

0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:48.040
<v Speaker 1>the first dating term of twenty one is cloaking. What

0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 1>could cloaking mean in the new year one of dating?

0:44:55.920 --> 0:44:59.400
<v Speaker 1>I'll start with this one, and obviously Mark Easton, Becky

0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:02.719
<v Speaker 1>whoever else wants to chime and feel free, I think cloaking.

0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:07.400
<v Speaker 1>If the dating term drives from cloaking, of course, you

0:45:07.440 --> 0:45:11.319
<v Speaker 1>know that's the word, which, in my interpretation of it

0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:15.600
<v Speaker 1>means to like conceal or to hide yourself. And so

0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:21.200
<v Speaker 1>cloaking is when you are dating someone. And then it's

0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:24.040
<v Speaker 1>basically like ghosting. All of a sudden, you disappear, you hide,

0:45:24.360 --> 0:45:26.360
<v Speaker 1>and you hope that they go away forever. That's what

0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:32.359
<v Speaker 1>cloaking is in my in my professional judgment, I have

0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:36.799
<v Speaker 1>no idea, but I like had a whole story going

0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 1>off in my head. But then I'm like, okay, wait,

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:40.520
<v Speaker 1>let me bring it back to like what it actually

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:43.640
<v Speaker 1>might mean. Um maybe because I'm going off of what

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Dean said a little bit. Uh something to do with

0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:49.960
<v Speaker 1>your mask or like you only ever have your mask on,

0:45:50.440 --> 0:45:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Like if your video chatting with somebody or sending pictures

0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:56.759
<v Speaker 1>to each other, you always have your mask on, so

0:45:57.040 --> 0:46:04.759
<v Speaker 1>you're like concealing yourself and very interesting good thinking process there, Becky.

0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it's kind of like catfishing, like you like

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:12.080
<v Speaker 1>a mix between analysis and Deans where it's like you

0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:14.480
<v Speaker 1>have your mask on and then you take it like

0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:17.719
<v Speaker 1>you're hiding some features, but you take it off and

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:21.160
<v Speaker 1>you're you're a totally different progerson. I think it's more

0:46:21.200 --> 0:46:24.560
<v Speaker 1>like stealth, like a stealth bomber. I think you are

0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:28.040
<v Speaker 1>going using a fake Instagram or fake social media account

0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:31.400
<v Speaker 1>to uh stock x is to see what your current

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:34.359
<v Speaker 1>is up to, going into their friends lift stuff like that,

0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:39.040
<v Speaker 1>using fake social media to investigate and be cloaked while

0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:41.319
<v Speaker 1>you're doing it. Yeah, so you're cloaking, so you can

0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:45.399
<v Speaker 1>just be a stalker. I like that. Uh so this

0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:49.200
<v Speaker 1>one cloaking is obviously very straightforward. But I love the

0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:52.279
<v Speaker 1>guesses everybody because if we've ever seen, if anybody here

0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:54.880
<v Speaker 1>has seen a Harry Potter movie or read one of

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 1>the books, as analyst is raising her hand, now, of

0:46:57.600 --> 0:47:01.600
<v Speaker 1>course you have, uh what I was gonna say properly,

0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:03.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the actual answer is what you were

0:47:03.840 --> 0:47:06.840
<v Speaker 1>what you're gonna say, of course it is. And uh,

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:12.080
<v Speaker 1>if you know Harry Potter obviously has his invisibility cloak. Uh,

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:14.520
<v Speaker 1>you're not far off. If that obviously came to mind

0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:19.280
<v Speaker 1>where being ghosted involved your potential love interests, simply going

0:47:19.440 --> 0:47:24.880
<v Speaker 1>radio silent on all channels of communications, getting quote cloaked

0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:28.840
<v Speaker 1>means that you've not only disappeared, but these people have

0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 1>straight up unmatched and blocked you on all the apps.

0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:39.640
<v Speaker 1>How rude that is cloaking in the dating world there

0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:43.319
<v Speaker 1>there it is like it's savage. Indeed, we do have

0:47:43.360 --> 0:47:46.279
<v Speaker 1>an email from you, wonderful listeners, suck army Mark, would

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:48.799
<v Speaker 1>you be so kind to read this, It would be

0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:52.040
<v Speaker 1>my pleasure. All right, This is from Sally. Yesterday I

0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:55.359
<v Speaker 1>contacted a local grocery delivery service in my area. It's

0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:58.120
<v Speaker 1>like Insta cart, but with local people. The delivery person

0:47:58.239 --> 0:48:00.920
<v Speaker 1>began having a conversation with me about school. I told

0:48:01.040 --> 0:48:02.879
<v Speaker 1>him I was a biology major, and then I wanted

0:48:02.880 --> 0:48:05.799
<v Speaker 1>to teach. The next day, I get a text from

0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 1>the delivery service saying missing you, sad face. Then I

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:11.799
<v Speaker 1>get a friend request on Snapchat and that says this

0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:14.440
<v Speaker 1>person added me through my phone number. Along with the

0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:17.320
<v Speaker 1>friend request, he said aloha, and I asked if I

0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:20.160
<v Speaker 1>knew him. He lied and said he knew me from school.

0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:22.440
<v Speaker 1>I said, oh, I'm bad with memory. Did we have

0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:25.520
<v Speaker 1>a class together? And he said yes. Science. Now that's

0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:27.279
<v Speaker 1>when I knew he was lying, because nobody that's in

0:48:27.320 --> 0:48:30.920
<v Speaker 1>the actual major ever says science class. These are definite

0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:33.520
<v Speaker 1>red flags, right or should I give him the benefit

0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:39.480
<v Speaker 1>of the doubt and see where this goes? Red flags?

0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Those flags are redder than I've ever seen in my

0:48:42.880 --> 0:48:47.799
<v Speaker 1>entire life. Stay stay away, Sally. That is just that

0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:50.719
<v Speaker 1>is like, I don't want to say, like stalker level,

0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 1>but it's it's bordering it's borderline stalker, super creepy. Also,

0:48:56.680 --> 0:49:00.320
<v Speaker 1>way too many coincidence in that one my mom's namess

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:04.719
<v Speaker 1>dally and then the aloha. I was like, um, oh interesting,

0:49:05.520 --> 0:49:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Um yeah, No, that's creepy. I don't like it. No,

0:49:09.040 --> 0:49:10.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't like it at all. First of all, he lied.

0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Why is he lying? Why couldn't he had just said, Oh,

0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I met you the other day. I was the person

0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:16.880
<v Speaker 1>that dropped off the groceries. I'd love to get to

0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:18.719
<v Speaker 1>know you more, like if you ever want to grab

0:49:18.719 --> 0:49:21.200
<v Speaker 1>a drink or whatever. Why is he lying right off

0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:23.600
<v Speaker 1>the bat about meeting her in science classes? He insecure

0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:26.640
<v Speaker 1>about his job? Does he want to come off? I

0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:28.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know what his end game is, but this is

0:49:28.719 --> 0:49:31.960
<v Speaker 1>a major red flag. Here's what I got from this email.

0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:35.200
<v Speaker 1>This guy must have been so hot. I mean for

0:49:35.239 --> 0:49:37.319
<v Speaker 1>her to look past all of these things and think

0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:42.120
<v Speaker 1>maybe he must have been stunning. Yeah, what is Tyler Cameron?

0:49:42.160 --> 0:49:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Your grocery store drop off guy? So to realize how

0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:49.360
<v Speaker 1>weird this is, picture him as whatever your definition is

0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:52.400
<v Speaker 1>of hideously unattractive. If you picture him that way, you

0:49:52.520 --> 0:49:56.719
<v Speaker 1>realize how very, very disturbing all of this behavior is. Right,

0:49:57.200 --> 0:49:59.640
<v Speaker 1>the missing you sad faces, Really what did it for me?

0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:02.000
<v Speaker 1>And then? And I don't know, but let's have an

0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:04.759
<v Speaker 1>alternate reality here. Maybe this guy actually is in one

0:50:04.760 --> 0:50:08.400
<v Speaker 1>of her science classes, and yet he also drives for

0:50:08.440 --> 0:50:11.239
<v Speaker 1>the food delivery on the side, and he you know,

0:50:11.440 --> 0:50:17.399
<v Speaker 1>that's how a way that he got a number. Maybe

0:50:17.400 --> 0:50:20.239
<v Speaker 1>he's shy Jared and everyone's out going and as as

0:50:20.239 --> 0:50:26.560
<v Speaker 1>boisterous as you are. I mean, oh my god, he'd

0:50:26.560 --> 0:50:28.799
<v Speaker 1>red flag. There's a whole sea of flags out there,

0:50:28.840 --> 0:50:30.080
<v Speaker 1>and every single one of them is red. I'm just

0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:33.200
<v Speaker 1>trying to provide an alternate reality where this is more

0:50:33.200 --> 0:50:36.600
<v Speaker 1>seemingly adorable that because obviously she, like Mark said, she

0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:40.920
<v Speaker 1>thinks there's some potential there for some weird reason. So

0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think of what type of scenario it

0:50:43.480 --> 0:50:45.640
<v Speaker 1>would take for us to be like, oh, okay, we

0:50:45.760 --> 0:50:49.920
<v Speaker 1>understand that. But I agree, I think, Sally, don't respond,

0:50:50.320 --> 0:50:53.360
<v Speaker 1>don't give this man the time of day. There's like

0:50:53.360 --> 0:50:55.600
<v Speaker 1>a million ways to approach someone and start a conversation,

0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:57.000
<v Speaker 1>and I don't really think this is one of them.

0:50:57.120 --> 0:51:00.919
<v Speaker 1>The friend requesting the aloha, the missing you, missing you.

0:51:01.040 --> 0:51:02.960
<v Speaker 1>All you ever had with this person was an interaction

0:51:02.960 --> 0:51:04.560
<v Speaker 1>when you dropped food off for them? How are you

0:51:04.640 --> 0:51:06.640
<v Speaker 1>missing them? I don't like it. I don't like this

0:51:06.719 --> 0:51:10.720
<v Speaker 1>one bit. Stay away, Sally, I say, stay away. Sorry.

0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:13.960
<v Speaker 1>If the grocery guy, you know, he listens to the podcast,

0:51:14.040 --> 0:51:17.160
<v Speaker 1>we appreciate you listening, but I don't know. Definitely, don't

0:51:17.160 --> 0:51:18.880
<v Speaker 1>lie right off the bat like that. All right, we

0:51:18.920 --> 0:51:21.000
<v Speaker 1>have a couple of rapid fire questions for both Analyze

0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:23.880
<v Speaker 1>and Dean. So Deen and Analyze, I'm just gonna raffle

0:51:23.960 --> 0:51:26.640
<v Speaker 1>off some quick questions and you're gonna give me the

0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:31.600
<v Speaker 1>answer that first comes to your head. Okay, okay, great,

0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:35.960
<v Speaker 1>here we go. All right, here we go. Analyze, Dean,

0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:41.600
<v Speaker 1>what is your favorite part of your body? Oh my gosh,

0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:49.959
<v Speaker 1>sorry my smile, mustache? What is your favorite part of

0:51:50.239 --> 0:51:54.400
<v Speaker 1>a your partner's body? Or like if your movies? What

0:51:54.440 --> 0:51:59.719
<v Speaker 1>do you Okay, mobies are good? We'll find out hopefully, Son, Well,

0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:02.840
<v Speaker 1>what like when you first see a man? What's like

0:52:02.880 --> 0:52:04.719
<v Speaker 1>the first thing you see when you see a guy?

0:52:05.440 --> 0:52:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm like a whole picture kind of person,

0:52:08.360 --> 0:52:11.080
<v Speaker 1>but I'll do like eyes and our eyes are a

0:52:11.080 --> 0:52:12.920
<v Speaker 1>good one. Eyes are big for me? And then smile

0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:15.200
<v Speaker 1>at least as you say, smile is when you see

0:52:15.200 --> 0:52:17.280
<v Speaker 1>someone smile and it like really just gives you butterflies.

0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:19.560
<v Speaker 1>It's like that's good stuff right there. All right, what's

0:52:19.560 --> 0:52:27.400
<v Speaker 1>the perfectification to go on trip to Hawaii? Uh? Convince it? Um,

0:52:27.440 --> 0:52:31.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say, trying to think of where it's like

0:52:31.840 --> 0:52:33.200
<v Speaker 1>on the top of my list right now. I want

0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:36.680
<v Speaker 1>to do like bally Bally sounds very nice, but I'd

0:52:36.719 --> 0:52:41.240
<v Speaker 1>like to go clean shaven or facial hair. I like, scrap.

0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:43.520
<v Speaker 1>What am I supposed to do with that one? I

0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:48.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know? You answer anyway? You want facial texting or

0:52:48.400 --> 0:52:56.439
<v Speaker 1>talking texting? Uh, that's like a both. Um. I feel

0:52:56.480 --> 0:52:57.879
<v Speaker 1>like it's so that for me is like a red

0:52:57.880 --> 0:52:59.439
<v Speaker 1>flag if a guy won't like pick up the phone

0:52:59.440 --> 0:53:01.359
<v Speaker 1>and actually talk to you on the phone. So if

0:53:01.360 --> 0:53:03.560
<v Speaker 1>it's only texting, then that's the problem. So I would

0:53:03.560 --> 0:53:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I'll say talking, what's your favorite day of the week? Sunday, Friday, Sunday?

0:53:12.680 --> 0:53:16.239
<v Speaker 1>Just because of football? I'm so basic? Uh what? Uh?

0:53:17.840 --> 0:53:21.279
<v Speaker 1>Drinks on a beach or hot drink in front of

0:53:21.280 --> 0:53:27.440
<v Speaker 1>a fireplace in cold weather? Drinks on the beach? No, actually,

0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I verstand. I say by a fireplace. I'm gonna say

0:53:31.520 --> 0:53:33.360
<v Speaker 1>by a fireplace, just because it's different than what I

0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:35.279
<v Speaker 1>am right now. Little hot cocoa in front of a

0:53:35.320 --> 0:53:37.520
<v Speaker 1>fireplace when it's like thirty degrees and you're wearing a coat,

0:53:37.560 --> 0:53:41.360
<v Speaker 1>that is good stuff right there. Well, you can't have

0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:49.959
<v Speaker 1>you know, main or beach, mountain, mountain. On a scale

0:53:49.960 --> 0:53:51.680
<v Speaker 1>of one to ten. How good of a driver are you?

0:53:53.800 --> 0:53:59.759
<v Speaker 1>What kind of you say, I'm the best driver in

0:53:59.760 --> 0:54:02.919
<v Speaker 1>the world. You ever got a ticket? Yeah? Not since

0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:04.239
<v Speaker 1>I was like young. I mean, yeah, I got no

0:54:04.320 --> 0:54:06.120
<v Speaker 1>motorcycle action last week, but that wasn't my fault. That

0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:11.160
<v Speaker 1>was that guy's. Also. Also, I hit my driver really

0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:13.440
<v Speaker 1>well on the golf course, so I'm really good at

0:54:13.440 --> 0:54:16.319
<v Speaker 1>that driving too. That's what I was saying. I'm like,

0:54:16.320 --> 0:54:22.160
<v Speaker 1>what kind of fair point? First celebrity crush, Oh my god,

0:54:22.600 --> 0:54:25.799
<v Speaker 1>mine is probably J T T. Jonathan Taylor Thomas back

0:54:25.800 --> 0:54:31.400
<v Speaker 1>in the day. That's a good one. Uh, Lizzie McGuire,

0:54:32.719 --> 0:54:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Hillary Duff, Yeah, no, Lizzie McGuire, Yeah, god mine, it

0:54:39.560 --> 0:54:41.759
<v Speaker 1>was the role of Hillary played obviously. Yeah, that's a

0:54:41.760 --> 0:54:44.359
<v Speaker 1>fair point. Mine was obviously the pink Ranger. And last,

0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:46.720
<v Speaker 1>but not least, because we just got a holiday season

0:54:46.760 --> 0:54:52.360
<v Speaker 1>what's your favorite holiday? Good one? Halloween? Nice? Oh that

0:54:52.440 --> 0:54:55.640
<v Speaker 1>is good? Mine is Christmas? How is Christmas in Hawaii?

0:54:56.440 --> 0:55:01.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, did it happen? I have no idea, Marca. Yeah, yeah,

0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:05.600
<v Speaker 1>that's fair. Yeah, it doesn't feel like the holidays at all.

0:55:05.760 --> 0:55:07.239
<v Speaker 1>I just had this whole big argument with my brother.

0:55:07.360 --> 0:55:09.120
<v Speaker 1>He was like, oh, I love Christmas. Christmas is my

0:55:09.160 --> 0:55:12.440
<v Speaker 1>favorite holiday. I was like, did Christmas freaking sucks? And

0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:15.359
<v Speaker 1>we had a whole big blow up argument about it.

0:55:15.560 --> 0:55:17.320
<v Speaker 1>And so that's when I was like, July fourth is

0:55:17.320 --> 0:55:20.280
<v Speaker 1>definitely the only really good holiday because it's like everyone

0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:24.160
<v Speaker 1>comes together. You get delicious barbecue, you get a drink

0:55:24.200 --> 0:55:27.600
<v Speaker 1>with your friends, there's no expectations for presents, just the

0:55:27.640 --> 0:55:32.400
<v Speaker 1>best Christmas. Halloween is like Halloween's good, borderline good. I

0:55:32.400 --> 0:55:35.359
<v Speaker 1>would say more good than bad. But you get your

0:55:35.440 --> 0:55:41.120
<v Speaker 1>dress up in candy, I mean, and candy to the

0:55:41.120 --> 0:55:42.920
<v Speaker 1>candy is definitely a big selling point. You guys are

0:55:42.920 --> 0:55:45.000
<v Speaker 1>really starting to change my mind. Halloween is sounding better

0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:47.560
<v Speaker 1>and better with each day. Uh well, Annelius, thank you

0:55:47.600 --> 0:55:49.480
<v Speaker 1>so much for joining us on help my second dating.

0:55:49.640 --> 0:55:51.879
<v Speaker 1>You are always welcome and we really appreciate any time

0:55:51.920 --> 0:55:54.719
<v Speaker 1>you stop by. Um, we know you have your book

0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:56.680
<v Speaker 1>coming out, which is super exciting. Is there anything you

0:55:56.680 --> 0:55:59.879
<v Speaker 1>could tease with that? And it's a it's a book

0:55:59.880 --> 0:56:03.520
<v Speaker 1>of poetry and my art, So I'm yeah, I feel

0:56:03.520 --> 0:56:05.760
<v Speaker 1>like it's just a it's a little I keep saying

0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:07.440
<v Speaker 1>this and it sounds so cheesy, but I feel like

0:56:07.440 --> 0:56:09.719
<v Speaker 1>it's like a love letter to myself. It's just like

0:56:10.120 --> 0:56:13.200
<v Speaker 1>my heart on paper. Well that's great. I feel like

0:56:13.239 --> 0:56:15.000
<v Speaker 1>that always makes the best kind of books, when you

0:56:15.040 --> 0:56:17.160
<v Speaker 1>just pour out your heart and you're authentic and real,

0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:21.200
<v Speaker 1>super exciting. Well, everybody look forward to that. Uh, And

0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:24.279
<v Speaker 1>of course you can follow Analy's Puccini on Instagram. Thank

0:56:24.280 --> 0:56:26.520
<v Speaker 1>you to Sally for sending in that email. We really

0:56:26.520 --> 0:56:29.480
<v Speaker 1>appreciate all of the emailers who continue to tell us

0:56:29.480 --> 0:56:33.440
<v Speaker 1>their dating stories. Please continue that into one follow us

0:56:33.440 --> 0:56:35.759
<v Speaker 1>on Instagram. Of course we are a help. I suck

0:56:35.920 --> 0:56:39.640
<v Speaker 1>at dating. Thank you Dean for just being as wonderful

0:56:39.680 --> 0:56:41.920
<v Speaker 1>as you are, especially with that mustache. It's really coming

0:56:41.960 --> 0:56:45.880
<v Speaker 1>in full now. Huh. Look at that. Yeah, that is

0:56:45.920 --> 0:56:50.000
<v Speaker 1>a full caterpillar right there. Thank you everybody who's listening,

0:56:50.040 --> 0:56:52.359
<v Speaker 1>and make sure you guys tune in next week, where

0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:55.360
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