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Speaker 1: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 2: Why did you do it? I did it because I

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Speaker 2: was foolish. Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on

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Speaker 3: The John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 4: Podcast jces li'sten Guy, Johnnick, Kenny Florian, Oh God, you

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Speaker 3: Great, So we have some audio on your website that

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Speaker 3: nobody goes to. You're your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Floria.

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Speaker 5: Oh is it good to be with you? Is it

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Speaker 5: good to be with you? It is Monday, May twenty seven,

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Speaker 5: twenty nineteen, Episode two oh two of the Annik and

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Speaker 5: Florian Podcast. You could blame TJ. DeSantis for last week

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Speaker 5: he took a vacation with his family. We trotted out

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Speaker 5: of bed of episode The masses are upset? But what

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Speaker 5: are you gonna do about a big birthday for Kenlow

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Speaker 5: On Sunday. By the way, happy birthday kid.

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Speaker 6: I just feel so old right now. It's ridiculous. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I see. This is what happens when when we just

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Speaker 6: we take it easy on TJ and we just we

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Speaker 6: treat him like gold, and he takes off on us.

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Speaker 5: It was like, I'm gone for eleven eleven days. I mean,

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Speaker 5: that is just a long time. But hey, you know

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Speaker 5: bankrolls fatter than mine, with those deep pockets, you do

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Speaker 5: eleven days at Disney World, I understand. I want to say,

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Speaker 5: I just want to point out I left you for

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Speaker 5: eleven days. You left me for a year.

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Speaker 7: Oh man, Oh that was good.

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Speaker 5: That was very win again, TJ. You win again. Whether

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Speaker 5: it's an mm A history lesson or us leaving you

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Speaker 5: for a year, you win again. We also miss Ray

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Speaker 5: Longo's birthday last week, by the way, so please remind

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Speaker 5: me Flow when we get there at the end of

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Speaker 5: the show. Longer today, but today's Memorial Day. Yesterday we

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Speaker 5: were honoring Ken Flow. Today we honor those who died

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Speaker 5: while serving in the night the state's armed forces. And

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Speaker 5: you know, today's the federal holiday obviously, and everybody's posting

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Speaker 5: on Instagram and rightfully so but this is a gratitude

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Speaker 5: I know that you feel every day right as we

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Speaker 5: sit around and enjoy things like freedom. And for those

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Speaker 5: of us that didn't make that sacrifice, and certainly for

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Speaker 5: those of us that didn't make that ultimate sacrifice, there's

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Speaker 5: part of this that we can't relate to. I'll just say,

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Speaker 5: when you tell a seven year old girl, as I've

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Speaker 5: said to my daughter, that something like freedom isn't guaranteed,

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Speaker 5: you know, she freaks out right. And you just sometimes

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Speaker 5: I think when you're a parent and you get older

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Speaker 5: and you see your kids just have freedom when other

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Speaker 5: children don't, it crystallizes it for you. So thank you

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Speaker 5: to those who made the ultimate sacrifice. Hopefully this free

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Speaker 5: content you know, is here for you if you're still serving,

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Speaker 5: you know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely man. You know, going to the military was

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Speaker 6: something that I contemplated. I've always had such respect for

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Speaker 6: all the warriors that have lived and died for this country,

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Speaker 6: and we are eternally grateful for all of those that

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Speaker 6: have served, all of those that are currently serving. But

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Speaker 6: when you're talking about the ultimate sacrifice, man, those are

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Speaker 6: people that truly believed in this country, truly believed in

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Speaker 6: freedom and all those things and we're just so thankful

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Speaker 6: to have them.

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Speaker 5: And there's a tremendous bond obviously between a lot of

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Speaker 5: UFC fighters. I know you've had a chance to see

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Speaker 5: the troops at some point in time. We've done some

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Speaker 5: fight for the Troops events. You know my bucket lists

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Speaker 5: as far as things UFC related. People ask me all,

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Speaker 5: what's your dream job? My dream is to call a

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Speaker 5: UFC fight for the troops, right because I haven't been

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Speaker 5: able to. I think we've done four and I have

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Speaker 5: yet to get the call. So hopefully there's a chance

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Speaker 5: at some point down the line, and hopefully everybody, if

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Speaker 5: it applies, is getting some family time today and any

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Speaker 5: family time for you. On the birthday, kid, I mean

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Speaker 5: kind of went dark on the birthday. I understand as

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Speaker 5: you get a little bit older. Nothing fun about it, man,

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Speaker 5: I mean I as is well document. I hated my

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Speaker 5: fortieth birthday and forty one is right around the goddamn corner.

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Speaker 7: That's funny, dude. Yeah, no, you know, we went out

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Speaker 6: We went camping with the little one, absolutely overnight overnight, dude,

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Speaker 6: two nights.

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Speaker 7: We did two nights in Joshua Tree.

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Speaker 6: It got a little cold, but we prepared appropriately, I think,

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Speaker 7: I mean, she's such a trooper, dude, she's amazing.

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Speaker 6: We were intense and dealing with the cold and then

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Speaker 7: We survived.

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Speaker 6: I'm forty three years old, but I gotta say I

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Speaker 6: think I would beat the living shit I would beat

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Speaker 6: the living shit out a twenty eight year old Ken Flow.

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Speaker 6: I'm telling you, I believe it.

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Speaker 5: I think there are a lot of fighters that you

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Speaker 5: that back would hold up. Well, that's great that you

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Speaker 5: went to the camp. Please tell me you didn't like

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Speaker 5: Rush Back for the Anak and Florian podcast. Of course,

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Speaker 5: of course, I can just see. Really, bro, you didn't

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Speaker 5: bring your laptop. We got to go all the way

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Speaker 5: home to do the Anak and Florian podcast. No, of

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Speaker 5: We did not get a chance last week to recap

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Speaker 5: the UFC Rochester show, so just want to treat top

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Speaker 5: that a little bit before we get to the main

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Speaker 5: event Challenge and then eventually Ray Longo so Halfayel dos

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Speaker 5: Ajos in the main event a winner by submission round

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Speaker 5: four over Kevin Lee and I guess the conversation Kenny,

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Speaker 5: now nine to ten days removed from the fight, is

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Speaker 5: probably as much about the win and the fight itself

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Speaker 5: as it is sort of a career retrospective on Halfayel

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Speaker 5: dos Azos, because this win added to the rest of them,

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Speaker 7: Dos Angros is a tremendous fighter.

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Speaker 6: I thought that he did a great job of surviving

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Speaker 6: the early blitz from Kevin Lee. I think him and

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Speaker 6: his team and all of us really expected that. I

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Speaker 6: expected that Kevin Lee was going to keep a tough

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Speaker 6: you can't rely on just you're conditioning to get it

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Speaker 6: done against a guy like Haffield. Dosanngros, who has been there,

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Speaker 6: Angels were really I think, wearing down on him. And

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Speaker 6: not to mention Dosandres's ability to stop the takedowns and

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Speaker 5: Throughout the end seemed kind of anti climactic as well.

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Speaker 5: Not much resistance on the choke obviously from Kevin Lee

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Speaker 5: in some respects putting himself in a bad position and

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Speaker 5: not necessarily forced by hafe Ael dos Anjos. So what

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Speaker 5: you sort of went there, I mean, is it is

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Speaker 5: it a cardio issue? Is it trying to figure out

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Speaker 5: I know, is it a Robert Fallis issue? I mean,

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Speaker 5: his head. Coach, I mean, what what is at the

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Speaker 5: core here of the problem for Kevin Lee in your mind?

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Speaker 6: Well, John, you know, not having Robert fallis there? Yeah,

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Speaker 6: it is definitely going to hurt him because this was

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Speaker 7: I saw Kevin Lee that in fact look worse. So

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Speaker 7: that could absolutely be a factor.

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Speaker 6: I think that's a great thing to note there. But

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Speaker 6: more than anything else, he needs to improve technically. He

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Speaker 6: didn't show that he's aware of proper range and proper

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Speaker 6: He's not necessarily a Tony Ferguson type figure where he

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Speaker 7: He doesn't care if he's going to get knocked out.

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Speaker 6: He will pursue through, you know, the garden of punishment

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Speaker 6: no matter what. Kevin Lee just seemed to get tired

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Speaker 6: that's okay, that's fine, but you can't fight like that

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Speaker 6: just going to pressure bj Penn and I expect him

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Speaker 6: to break. That does not fucking happen. You got to

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Speaker 6: If you're going in there expecting a dude to fail,

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Speaker 6: you will fail yourself at some point, maybe not that fight,

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Speaker 6: but eventually you got to go in there with skills

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Speaker 6: And a guy like Dosanngels just isn't gonna do that.

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Speaker 6: At this point in his career, Dosangel still has it.

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Speaker 6: He's still hungry and came away with a great win

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Speaker 6: over Kevin Lee. And Kevin Lee's gonna have to rethink

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Speaker 6: things now again. He's in between weight classes. We've talked

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Speaker 6: out one hundred and seventy pounds, he either needs to

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Speaker 6: to get way better technically.

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Speaker 5: I think he'll probably push the reset button again and

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Speaker 5: just making some wholesale changes, not unlike we saw Yancy

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Speaker 5: Maderis did. I'm not saying you gotta go vegan, but

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Speaker 5: you know, really major life style type changes if he's

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Speaker 5: gonna try to be a lightweight contender. Because it's amazing

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Speaker 5: how much the narrative has changed over last three or

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Speaker 5: four five for Kevin Lee. I mean, I don't think

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Speaker 5: quinter rematch necessarily. But and while there was some good

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Speaker 6: is expected, and I think as fighters you kind of

434
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Speaker 6: have to deal with that. As a team you kind

435
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Speaker 6: of have to know that. It doesn't make it any

436
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Speaker 6: easier to deal with. But again, I think there's a

437
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Speaker 6: silver lining here. I think for Volkonovsky, he can learn

438
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Speaker 6: a lot from this fight of either Holloway or Frank

439
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Speaker 6: JEdgar and kind of sit back watch the fight. Him

440
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Speaker 6: and his team can make the analysis and come up

441
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Speaker 6: with a great game plan either for Frank Edgar or

442
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Speaker 6: for jose Al sorry for Max Holloway.

443
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Speaker 7: So I think there is a silver lining.

444
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Speaker 6: It's gonna push things back, but as you said, sometimes

445
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Speaker 6: you know, injuries and other timing. If FRANKI Edgar wins

446
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,480
Speaker 6: that fight, that's gonna push it back a little bit more.

447
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Speaker 6: But I think Volkanovsky has really established himself as the

448
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Speaker 6: number one guy in that division. I don't see a

449
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Speaker 6: whole lot of other threats to him besides FRANKI Edgar

450
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Speaker 6: and Max Holloway.

451
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Speaker 7: So he's gonna have to sit back and wait.

452
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Speaker 6: But again, this is something that other guys like Dustin Pourier,

453
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Speaker 6: Tony Ferguson of course, have had to deal with.

454
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Speaker 5: Of course, No, it's a long list of guys for sure.

455
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Speaker 5: And I do think Volkanovsky's next fight is going to

456
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Speaker 5: be for the undisputed title or for an interim title,

457
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Speaker 5: but hopefully in his case, an undisputed title shot, you know,

458
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Speaker 5: and I think too, he's the type of guy that

459
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Speaker 5: just wants to, you know, Rugby league style run through

460
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Speaker 5: a brick wall and maybe on the heels of this

461
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Speaker 5: blood infection to take this fight, you know, with a

462
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Speaker 5: six week or whatever eight week abbreviated training camp wouldn't

463
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Speaker 5: have been the most ideal circumstance, you know.

464
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Speaker 6: Without a doubt, and listen, as good as this one

465
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Speaker 6: hundred and forty five pound division is I think they

466
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Speaker 6: also struggle in the name department, and Frankie Edgar is

467
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Speaker 6: one of, if not the biggest name at one hundred

468
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Speaker 6: and forty five pounds besides Max Holloway. You look at

469
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Speaker 6: what he's accomplished, you know, on paper, and the fact

470
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Speaker 6: that he's been in some of the biggest fights at

471
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Speaker 6: one hundred and forty five and one hundred and three

472
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Speaker 6: five pounds. I think it's a fight that the UFC

473
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Speaker 6: probably went in that direction because of that history. So

474
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Speaker 6: Volkanovsky doesn't perhaps have the name of frank Edgar yet.

475
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Speaker 7: Maybe that's why they went in that direction as well.

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Speaker 5: And real quick on the Volkanovsky infection, and you mentioned

477
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Speaker 5: how hard it might be to fight and compete and cut,

478
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Speaker 5: wait and everything else with that type of infection. He's

479
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Speaker 5: lucky he's still alive. Right when you put the details

480
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Speaker 5: and what airplanes and altitude can do when you're fighting

481
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Speaker 5: something like this. This is Volkanovsky to ESPN and ken

482
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Speaker 5: Fo will be on video in a few weeks. But

483
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Speaker 5: he's just shaking his head because he knows all too well,

484
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Speaker 5: and especially too when you got kids, they get these

485
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Speaker 5: infection too. I mean, shit happens really quickly if you

486
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Speaker 5: don't get on top of it. This is Volkanovsky on

487
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Speaker 5: what happened. You know, shortly after going on the plane.

488
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Speaker 5: It was too hard for them to tell. I think

489
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Speaker 5: the extent of the injury or virus, because he was

490
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Speaker 5: injured because of the trauma from the kicks. Once I

491
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Speaker 5: went on the plane, it went crazy, and obviously I

492
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 5: just started feeling really crooked. Then I went on the

493
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Speaker 5: next flight and that's when it really hit me. Forty

494
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Speaker 5: plus degree celsius temperatures. Goes on to say, I could

495
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Speaker 5: have lost the leg, lose your life, very very serious.

496
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Speaker 5: Thankfully it didn't get to that stage. But antibiotics didn't

497
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Speaker 5: work straight away. They were really worried about it hitting

498
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Speaker 5: his tendons and bones because it was very close. And

499
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Speaker 5: of course, once it goes there, you can have some

500
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Speaker 5: serious problems. So man, you know on the thing too

501
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Speaker 5: is right? You find yourself in these situations.

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Speaker 9: Right.

503
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Speaker 5: He was admitted to a hospital in Chile after fighting

504
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Speaker 5: in Brazil. Right, and you just trust that all that,

505
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,959
Speaker 5: you know, I'm not like kenfl I don't speak six languages. Right,

506
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 5: you're in a hospital surrounded by people who are trying

507
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Speaker 5: to save your life in a different language.

508
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Speaker 6: Scary stuff. Man, that has to be extremely scary. Absolutely.

509
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Speaker 6: I can't even imagine. That is dangerous stuff. When you're

510
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 6: talking about these infections, whether it's staff or these blood infections,

511
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 6: you know, being on a plane and having to deal

512
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Speaker 6: with that, I mean, that is just craziness. But I'm

513
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 6: glad he was able to get out and get healthy,

514
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Speaker 6: and I wish him a you know, a continue recovery.

515
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Speaker 7: But that is definitely some scary stuff.

516
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Speaker 6: I've dealt with some infections, but before a fight, and

517
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 6: you just don't feel the same or fight the same.

518
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Speaker 7: Volkanowski's a beast man. I'm glad he's okay.

519
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Speaker 5: Thankfully he is okay. He is getting better, and he

520
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 5: is home with his beautiful family. All right. Main event

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Speaker 5: Click it or ticket.

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Speaker 3: It's the main event challenge.

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Speaker 5: The time is most definitively.

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Speaker 3: Florian high finished fight. How do you everything possible to win.

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Speaker 4: The main event challenge to John Hennick and Kenny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 5: All right, so at one point Team Annick led this

545
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Speaker 5: thing by like seventeen or so. Not not really thrilled

546
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Speaker 5: with the squad of late Ken flow Ian Parker chief

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Speaker 5: among them. He's on hold, We'll get to him in

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Speaker 5: a second we sifty one forty eight. Going into UFC

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Speaker 5: Rochester team, Florian wins his fifth consecutive week four to

550
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Speaker 5: two the swing fight. Kenny Florian had hot Byel dos

551
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Speaker 5: Anjos as a slight underdog. So it is now sixty

552
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Speaker 5: three to fifty two going into UFC Stockholm. You take

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Speaker 5: the week four two.

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Speaker 6: Kid chipping away, dog chipping away, the kids coming.

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Speaker 5: Unbelievable by the way you got Look six months though,

556
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Speaker 5: it's amazing the way you do this, five consecutive winning weeks. Unbelievable.

557
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Speaker 5: As we welcome in Ian Parker. I Ian, not a

558
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Speaker 5: great start to this, to this partnership, but the beauty

559
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Speaker 5: is in your system. You get another crack this week.

560
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Speaker 5: By man, it's good to have you back. How are

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Speaker 5: you you know?

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Speaker 9: It's I guess you're only as good as your last fight,

563
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 9: and uh it wasn't for uh mister Lee, I think

564
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 9: I would have actually been flawless. So Kenny, you got

565
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Speaker 9: lucky that Neil Magni didn't want to come fight that day.

566
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Speaker 7: I tell you.

567
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Speaker 5: Wow. All right, let us get to it. It is

568
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Speaker 5: UFC Fight night. Gustafson versus Smith June first, Stockholm, Sweden.

569
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Speaker 5: I believe this is a wall to wall job on

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Speaker 5: ESPN Plus. We begin with a good one in the

571
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Speaker 5: featherweight division. Chris Fishgold favored here at a minus one

572
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Speaker 5: twenty five clip against Makwanimir Khanni, who is plus one

573
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Speaker 5: oh five. Fish Gold eighteen to two and one overall.

574
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Speaker 5: Ian Parker, he is the favorite. Give it to me straight.

575
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Speaker 5: Who do you like here?

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Speaker 9: Yeah? You know what this is? Uh, the odds are

577
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 9: kind of spot on right here? You know you're Kannie

578
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,160
Speaker 9: is someone who was a potential prospect for a while. Well,

579
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Speaker 9: I just don't like the inconsistency in his the time

580
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 9: that he fights seems like he only fights once a

581
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Speaker 9: year for a long time. I think fish Gold since

582
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Speaker 9: his last loss, has only gotten better. I think his

583
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 9: strength played really well Tamir Kannie's weaknesses. I'm going to

584
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 9: keep this one pretty simple. I think that fish Gold

585
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 9: is going to grind the decision out play a safe year.

586
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 9: I think he out Cardio, is out hussles and he

587
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 9: gets the whim all right.

588
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 5: Ian Parker going with fish Gold out of Liverpool, England.

589
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 5: He's got some hype behind him. Ken Flow submitted Daniel

590
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 5: tamer In February thirteenth, career submission twelfth by a choke

591
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 5: of some kind makwanimir Kani on the other side. I

592
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 5: was surprised to see this. You know, more UFC tested

593
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 5: in this equation for sure, but four and one in

594
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Speaker 5: the UFC so far, coming off a split decision win

595
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Speaker 5: over Mississippi Me and Jason Knight that was over a

596
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Speaker 5: year ago May of twenty eighteen. Amir Kane the underdog

597
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 5: or Fish Gold the favorite for you kid, you.

598
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Speaker 6: Know, I think Amir Kannie is one of those guys

599
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Speaker 6: that I've been a little disappointed by how he's developed,

600
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Speaker 6: because he is such a great athlete and I.

601
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Speaker 7: Expected a lot more.

602
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Speaker 6: Even in his wins, sometimes he just has you grinding

603
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Speaker 6: your teeth like is this guy gonna pull it off?

604
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Speaker 7: Like why isn't he making Why is he making this

605
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Speaker 7: so hard?

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00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 6: Sometimes the decision making out there, and again, you know

607
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 6: that's because he is kind of starting off his career

608
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 6: still and still getting his bearings in the UFC. But

609
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Speaker 6: I expected him to be a little bit more further

610
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Speaker 6: along in his career. Fish Gold, I think can get

611
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Speaker 6: it done, just like Ian Parker said, or I could

612
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Speaker 6: actually see Fish Gold is getting submission to win over

613
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Speaker 6: Amir Connie as well.

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Speaker 7: So I'm going with fish Gold.

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Speaker 5: Do you know how much Ian Parker loves when you're

616
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Speaker 5: dropping that Parker and not just calling him Ian, I

617
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Speaker 5: mean Kenny Floria knows your last name, Bro. I mean,

618
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 5: look at this, you know.

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Speaker 9: What I'm gonna have to just go down like the

620
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Speaker 9: round of like Sindbad. I think I'm just gonna drop

621
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Speaker 9: it in at this point and just.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think car like Bono or Sting.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I like it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know why I went Sinband. I could

625
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,959
Speaker 9: have went so much more memorable, but I wouldn't Sindbad.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that's funny, all right. So two guys

627
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 5: on fish Gold. Their price is short if you do

628
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 5: like that side, all right. Featured about at light heavyweight

629
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 5: top prospect Alexander Rocketch minus two twenty, Jimmy Mannull, the

630
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Speaker 5: plus one eighty underdog, Ian Parker. We will have you

631
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Speaker 5: lead once again, Rocket or the poster boy Jimmy Manowell.

632
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Speaker 9: For you love leading. Kenny wouldn't have it any other way,

633
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 9: So I like you know, man, Jimmy Manno, another guy

634
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 9: who's sorry has been very again disappointing. I guess for

635
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 9: the most part, he's one of those guys he's ever

636
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 9: gonna knock you out or get knocked out. And I

637
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 9: feel like the longer he's been the UFC, he has

638
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 9: what a higher level of competition, but he's just his

639
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 9: technicality he's gotten so far away from him that he

640
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 9: just likes to slug it out and he believes that

641
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Speaker 9: his power will do it and it's showing not to

642
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 9: be the case. I think the prospect gets it done here.

643
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Speaker 9: I do think he's what I hope he does do

644
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Speaker 9: because if you want to slug it out with Jimmy,

645
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 9: it's not the best idea. Jimmy's power, as I stated,

646
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 9: is really really good. But I think if he stays technical,

647
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 9: but you can I think if he uses his jiu jitsu,

648
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Speaker 9: He's got a couple of wins in his career, you know.

649
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Speaker 9: And also Jimmy's cardio is really not good. I like

650
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 9: rackets here. I really do appreciate where this is a

651
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 9: very interesting fight. Also kind of he's not too far

652
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 9: into his career in the UFC. This will be a test.

653
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 9: I think he gets it done. I think the odds

654
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Speaker 9: are I didn't expec him to be minus to twenty,

655
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 9: you know, but I would still take him. I'm good

656
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Speaker 9: with that pick.

657
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Speaker 5: Ken Felt the Austrian Rockets get in Vegas' respect. He's

658
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Speaker 5: won eleven in a row since dropping his pro debut

659
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Speaker 5: three and zero in the UFC knockout of Devin Clark

660
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Speaker 5: late last year. He trains at American Top Team, and

661
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 5: here tries to hand Jimmy Manuell a fourth consecutive lost

662
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Speaker 5: ken Flow, who you got?

663
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Speaker 7: This is a tough one, Listen.

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Speaker 6: I do think that maniwe has the ability to knock

665
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Speaker 6: this guy out. I think this is his toughest win

666
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Speaker 6: on paper. I mean, I think he's got wins over

667
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Speaker 6: Bojoso and Justin Ledett and Devin Clark in the UFC

668
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 6: so far, and it's impressive his consistency as of late.

669
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Speaker 6: But you know, those aren't guys that are really that

670
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Speaker 6: have a skill that you have to be worried about.

671
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Speaker 7: Necessarily.

672
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Speaker 6: They're kind of good all the way around, but not

673
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 6: as dangerous as saying Manawa on the feet, who truly

674
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 6: has knockout power. But I gotta say what what Ian said,

675
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 6: I think he's onto something here. It concerns me that

676
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 6: Manawa is a little bit later on in his career,

677
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Speaker 6: kind of at the end of his career, and I

678
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 6: don't see that hunger getting ramped up at this point.

679
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Speaker 6: I'm not sure he's going to have that same approach

680
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 6: to training for a fight like he did before. And yeah,

681
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Speaker 6: I think Mana was gonna either try to knock him

682
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Speaker 6: out or he's just gonna get taken down, or you know,

683
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Speaker 6: I don't know. I think for Rakas he'll probably get

684
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Speaker 6: the decision to win.

685
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Speaker 5: It was all about that Thiago Santo's fight for Jimmy Manowa, right,

686
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 5: not all that long ago, and that one didn't go

687
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 5: his way. So I see your point, right, It's hard

688
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 5: to see Manawa being at the height of motivation taken

689
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Speaker 5: on a guy who I call top prospect. And when

690
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Speaker 5: I throw that designation out there, I'm saying, like top

691
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 5: prospect in the right with respect to Dominic Rays and

692
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Speaker 5: the other guys, I think Rockets might be the guy

693
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Speaker 5: who is the top young guy to keep an eye

694
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Speaker 5: on going forward. Yes, all right, Cole main event former

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Speaker 5: world title challenger vulcan uz Demir slight favorite here minus

696
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Speaker 5: one twenty against the Backyard shed a leer Latifi Latifi

697
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Speaker 5: the even money underdog Colemane event Ian Parker. We will

698
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Speaker 5: need the round and the method of victory. You going

699
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Speaker 5: uz Demir or Latif?

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Speaker 9: All right? So this this, I'm such a fan of

701
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 9: the TV just because he just seems like the nicest

702
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Speaker 9: guy in the world, and his style is just really

703
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 9: really brutal. His wrestling, his slams, he's got heavy hands.

704
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Speaker 9: Here's the problem. He has not fought I don't think

705
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Speaker 9: anyone close to Vulcan's level where they're out in their

706
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 9: UFC careers outside and coming on short notice and fighting Uzasi.

707
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 9: You know, there's be a huge height advantage or reach advantage.

708
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 9: You know, Vulcan has fought guys like Diegiel Cormier, so

709
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 9: he has you know, the wrestlers and with hes just

710
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 9: his cardio is not really good either. He has been

711
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 9: knocked out and dropped before. I think is Uzmir can

712
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Speaker 9: just keep his range here, pump his jab and just

713
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 9: not fight overly emotional like he knows he's the best

714
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Speaker 9: in the world. I mean, listen that fight against Dominic Grays.

715
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Speaker 9: I don't know about Kenny, but I thought he won

716
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 9: that fight. I didn't care either way. And I actually

717
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Speaker 9: did not bet on that fight, but I did think

718
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 9: that Vulcan won that fight, and that was a right

719
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 9: that lost for me. Told me so much about him

720
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 9: that he still has it. You know, not too many

721
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 9: guys obviously beat DC in the title fight, So I

722
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Speaker 9: think based on the level of competition, I think the reach,

723
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 9: his hands are way better. He's a much better boxer

724
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Speaker 9: if he can keep this fight on the feet. I'm

725
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 9: gonna say TKO round one for Uznimir.

726
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Speaker 5: I agree with a lot of the latter part of

727
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 5: your response there. You better hope Eliir Latifi does not

728
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 5: listened to the Anak and Florian podcast, because that is.

729
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 9: Oh god, there's no disrespect here, right.

730
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 5: Not a guy who's batside you want to be anywhere near.

731
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Speaker 5: But Ustabar has dropped three in a row. You mentioned

732
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Speaker 5: most recently to Dominic Gray. The other losses Daniel Cormier,

733
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 5: Anthony Smith. Latifi had some momentum that was halted by

734
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 5: Corey Anderson at UFC two thirty two last December. Ken

735
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 5: Flow loser of this fight obviously in trouble. When it

736
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Speaker 5: comes to contention, You're going Uzdamir or Latifi.

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Speaker 6: See Ian getting a little taste of what the flow's

738
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Speaker 6: got to deal with every single week giving these breakdowns.

739
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 6: You know, listen, I think Latifi is a very powerful guy.

740
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Speaker 6: I think he is a better wrestler than Uzdimir. I

741
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 6: think he hits harder, perhaps than than even Uzdimir. But

742
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 6: you know, those situations where he's getting in on your

743
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 6: legs or he's landing those big shots, they're few and

744
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 6: far between. You know, he's throwing a lot of overhand

745
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 6: rights that you see coming. You know, with his ability

746
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 6: to enter in on the legs, I don't think it's

747
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 6: it's so clean. He doesn't know how to really integrate

748
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 6: his striking to set up his takedowns. It's either just

749
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 6: trying to shoot in from far away or trying to

750
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Speaker 6: knock your head off. So I think Uzdamir is gonna

751
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 6: have the experience to see all of those things. I

752
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 6: think Uzdaimir showed a lot of that toughness that we've

753
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 6: seen in his previous fights in that last fight against

754
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 6: Dominic Rays, which I agree he definitely could have won

755
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 6: that fight. And again it's no surprise this is one

756
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 6: of the toughest individuals you'll ever meet. You don't become

757
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 6: Anthony Johnson's sparring partner, getting your butt kicked and now

758
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 6: giving him a really tough time at the end of

759
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Speaker 6: his career, well, you know, without being tough. So I

760
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Speaker 6: think Uzdamir does get it done. I don't know if

761
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 6: it will be by knockout, but I do need to

762
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:32,959
Speaker 6: give around, right, Is that correct?

763
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 7: Let's go around or not?

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00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, new scoring system. I think that does require

765
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Speaker 5: you to give us a round in a meta of victory.

766
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 7: All right, let's go, let's go. Let's go with round

767
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Speaker 7: Let's go with round three.

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Speaker 5: TKO, Round three t k O, and Ian correct me

769
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Speaker 5: if I'm wrong. You went round one. I did good

770
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Speaker 5: because I don't want to fucking go back and listen.

771
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Speaker 5: That's what I had to do this week. I had

772
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Speaker 5: to go back and listen to the entire main event challenge.

773
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Speaker 5: I went warp speed double speed on both of you guys,

774
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Speaker 5: because you know, I get enough of you guys during

775
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Speaker 5: the all right main event UFC Stockholm Alexander gust Of

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Speaker 5: Sidney Prohibiti Favorite minus three hundred, Anthony lyonheart Smith plus

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Speaker 5: two forty. Of course, we will need the route of

778
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Speaker 5: the method of victory as this is a five round

779
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 5: main event Ian Parker who wins the main event in Stockholm.

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Speaker 5: How do they get it done?

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Speaker 9: Well? I just wanted to real quick react to your

782
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 9: comment about hopefully that Latiti's not listening to this podcast.

783
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 9: If Ariel Hawani hasn't gotten his ass kick yet, I

784
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 9: think I'm hopefully safe or I'm just going to hide

785
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 9: here and let Kenny handle my business for me. So

786
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 9: so okay with this fight, I'm I'm again a little

787
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 9: shocked at UFC through Anthony Smith so quickly back into it,

788
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 9: back in and against this It's you know, I guess

789
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 9: they really wanted that big of a market of a

790
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 9: marketable fight for Gus in this fight. You know, it's

791
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 9: interesting Anthony Smith's rise to the top, it was really

792
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 9: just he was beating everyone they put in firm really quickly,

793
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 9: legend you know, essentially legends that were on the decline,

794
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 9: everyone that really played into his style. And when he

795
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 9: got to that point where is style no longer played

796
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 9: to his advantage, he kind of saw what happened. I

797
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 9: think this one he is fighting a way better, faster,

798
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 9: more technical version of himself. I guess I just think

799
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Speaker 9: Gus is one of those guys that will always be

800
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 9: a top three or four guy in that division, and

801
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 9: outside John and DC, I just don't know who really

802
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 9: beats him. I don't think Anthony Smith is fast enough.

803
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 9: I don't think he you know, I don't think Gus

804
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 9: really makes bad decisions, and I think it's gonna take

805
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 9: a really bad mistake on his part to lose this.

806
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 9: I know, we got to pick a method of victory, right,

807
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 9: So I'm gonna say Gus wins this fourth round t KO.

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00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 5: Alexander Gustafson round four TKO. So you touched on Anthonys

809
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 5: this week. You touched on Anthony Smith's schedule, Ian, so

810
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 5: he beats volcanoos to Mere last October, And Kenny, I

811
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 5: think you might have been on the desk two months

812
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 5: later at Fox December twenty ninth, when he had the

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Speaker 5: chance to interview John Jones. Yes, at that time he

814
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 5: asked John Jones for a fight in July of twenty nineteen. So,

815
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 5: of course that fight did not happen on Smith's timeline. Obviously,

816
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 5: as the challenger, that fight happens in March didn't go

817
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 5: well for Anthony Smith at all. And now before even

818
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 5: that July target date that he wanted to fight John

819
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Speaker 5: Jones on. He's getting a second five round fight against

820
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Speaker 5: another guy who's a top light all time light heavyweight.

821
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Speaker 5: You know, I think it's a huge ask for Anthony

822
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Speaker 5: Smith here, Kenny, and I think the betting odds reflect that.

823
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Speaker 5: Your thoughts on Anthony Smith and Alexander Gustavson Saturday Night

824
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Speaker 5: Live on ESPN Plus.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, Anthony Smith is like a promoter's dream. He's

826
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 6: only gonna say yes, this guy's a warrior.

827
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Speaker 7: Of course. Who you want me to fight tomorrow? Yeah,

828
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Speaker 7: no problem, I got this. You know, that's the kind

829
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Speaker 7: of guy that every promoter.

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Speaker 5: Wants, right and every coach doesn't want because at times

831
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Speaker 5: Mark Montoya is like, bro, come on, really, we have

832
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 5: a little time to work on some skills.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, now you could put the lion hard away, Anthony, Okay,

834
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 7: just say it for the fun. Yeah stop, yeah, put

835
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 7: the lion hard away. Listen. I think that, uh, this

836
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 7: is a tough fight for him. Man, Anthony Smith. I

837
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 7: love the guy.

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Speaker 6: One of the nicest, sweetest dudes you'll ever meet, but

839
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 6: a true warrior through and through. And I think a

840
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 6: lot of times our weaknesses are our strengths, and you know,

841
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Speaker 6: I think that for Anthony Smith, he can he can

842
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 6: get it done if Gustafson decides to just brawl with

843
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 6: him and get stupid. But I just don't see that happening.

844
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 6: Gustafson has tremendous boxing. He has excellent footwork when he's

845
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 6: on point with it. When he's flowing, man, watch out.

846
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 6: Gustison can beat any fighter at two hundred and five

847
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 6: pounds in the world. And Anthony Smith usually enjoys that reach,

848
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 6: uh and height advantage. It's not that's not gonna be

849
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 6: the case here against Gustuson. I don't like this matchup

850
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 6: for him. I have so much respect for Anthony Smith,

851
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 6: but I see a third round knockout for Alexander Gustison.

852
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 5: Out for Alexander.

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Speaker 9: This is like, this is like the price is right today.

854
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 7: Exactly. I can't go over. I can't go over, take

855
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Speaker 7: go over.

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00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 5: You know when Kempflo calls you a nice guy, that's

857
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 5: something not nice is coming next.

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Speaker 9: Sweet he's a sweet guy.

859
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 7: Exactly, he's a sweet guy.

860
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Speaker 5: See ninth fight, ninth fight in two and a half

861
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Speaker 5: years for Anthony Smith. And we know Gustofson rematch with

862
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 5: John Jones certainly didn't go according to plan. He did

863
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 5: injure the groin in there, and he wasn't gonna outwardly

864
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 5: make that excuse. But maybe that's a silver lining for Gustafson.

865
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 5: If he's healthy and sharp and on point. Uh, he's

866
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 5: a three to one favorite against Anthony Smith. And that's

867
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 5: exactly how it is on paper as Gus tries to

868
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 5: preserve his status as one of the best light heavyweights

869
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 5: in the world, one of the best kappers in the world.

870
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 5: I don't know that we're going to call Ian Parker

871
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 5: that just yet, but we do appreciate your time. We

872
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 5: will talk to you next week. By the way, guys,

873
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 5: you know how many picture making for UFC two thirty eight.

874
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 5: How many fucking ten?

875
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 2: Ian?

876
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 7: You're going down kid?

877
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 6: Ten?

878
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 8: I like it.

879
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 5: Ten picks, the entire main card, all four televised sprielams.

880
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 5: They're all big fights. The smallest fight if you want

881
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 5: to call it that, that you guys are gonna pick

882
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 5: if you really want to know, because I prep in advance,

883
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 5: Joe Anne Calderwood, Caitlin chukegian So two top five flyweights.

884
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 5: I think they are close to it. That's the smallest, right,

885
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 5: the least consequential fight. Arguably that you're gonna pick so

886
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 5: ten fights next week in park or anything else before

887
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 5: we let you fly.

888
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 8: Kid.

889
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 9: Uh No, listen, I'm it was kind of weird this

890
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 9: weekend not having uh a UFC car this weekend, go

891
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 9: a little left out, but looking forward to this week

892
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 9: and I missed you guys. Man, I'm pumped back on

893
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 9: this week. And Kenny, as much as I like you,

894
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 9: I gotta kick your ass this week.

895
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 6: Bro.

896
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 9: John just got all over me for losing one fucking fight.

897
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 9: One fight, So I got this week.

898
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 7: Bro, Stay consistent for me, Stay consistent for me.

899
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 9: You got to go undefeated the rest of the year.

900
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 8: Got it.

901
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 5: It's cough coughing during the stay segment, cutting me off.

902
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 5: I mean you are right at home right away?

903
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 9: Oh I didn't even hear you, did I cut you off?

904
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 5: My apologies, I'm just kidding around. Wait, we actually I

905
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 5: think we prefer the cough uh than the than the

906
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 5: car door. But uh, who was caught?

907
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 9: Who was coughing? I wasn't coffing, No, of course not.

908
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 5: You're the only Jew I've ever met that doesn't smoke marijuana,

909
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 5: you know.

910
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 9: Not anymore? Yeah? That's wow. Look who's that home right now?

911
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 5: I know, I know, I'm sorry. I'm under slept, all right, Ian,

912
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 5: great stuff, Buddy Love you will talk to you next week.

913
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 9: It was great a man, thanks guy.

914
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 5: All Right, we got to get out of here because

915
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 5: Ray Longo is waiting. Let's get to the Ray Longa n.

916
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 3: It's now time for the Ray Long Minutes.

917
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 5: Watch a Hole.

918
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 3: That's what I want, the Ray Long Minute John Nick

919
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 3: and Kenny Florian podcast.

920
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 5: Oh I need more Ray Longko in my life. That's

921
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 5: why he's been a weekly staple of this show since

922
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 5: episode one. Happy belated birthday, ray Longo. We figured we'd

923
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 5: cancel the show on your birthday.

924
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 8: Thank you, thank you, thank you very much for giving

925
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 8: me the day. Will I appreciate that. Thank you.

926
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 5: So you're you're older than me and Ken Flow. That's

927
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 5: why we have you on the show because we are

928
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 5: fucking senior citizens already.

929
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 8: I gotta tell you, I think I'm older than you

930
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 8: and Ken's won't put together, that's all. Yeah, I'm not.

931
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 5: Sure that.

932
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 3: So.

933
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 5: Uh So, I've been thinking a lot about Alja man

934
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 5: Sterling over the last couple of weeks because it all

935
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 5: comes down to June eighth, right, and this is an

936
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 5: opportunity on a night that will showcase the four best

937
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 5: bandam weights in the world, that al Joe gets Pedro

938
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 5: Munoz and gets to stamp himself the undisputed number one contender.

939
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 5: Uh And I do believe on any given Saturday night

940
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 5: you have the guy who might be the best bandam

941
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 5: weight in the world. You're about two weeks out. Do

942
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 5: you share my enthusiasm. I'm really excited for your guy

943
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 5: to show. Why are you laughing at me now?

944
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 8: Jesus Christ, who can sit your enthusiasm? You're so enthusiastic.

945
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 8: I'm excited for you at the level I can't match

946
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 8: that enthusiasm even my own guys. That's why he's such

947
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 8: a great announcer.

948
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 5: Because you don't want to give away the for the

949
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 5: game plan, just asking if you're excited.

950
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I'm very excited too. He just left. He

951
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 8: had a great training today with a lot of people,

952
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 8: so it was good. He's I agree exactly what you're saying,

953
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 8: and I think it's a good fight for al Joe.

954
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 8: You know, we looked at a bunch of the guys

955
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 8: fights and stuff, so I'm excited. Man, this is a

956
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,959
Speaker 8: big deal. I think he understands it's a big deal,

957
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 8: and uh man, June n eighth can't come quick enough.

958
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 5: I did see Pedro Munoz in Rio, and he seemed

959
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 5: to intimate that if Sahudo or Marie was unable to go,

960
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 5: that he and not al Jo, would be the guy

961
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 5: that would get that short notice championship opportunity. I'd imagine

962
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 5: you don't want to add anything to that narrative. Is

963
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 5: Aljo being told something similar or we don't.

964
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 8: Know that's into well we've talked about it. Yeah, that's interesting.

965
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 8: I don't know who to bad? Why does he think

966
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 8: he's the guy?

967
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 5: Oh? I don't know. Maybe it was just lost in

968
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 5: translation by me.

969
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 8: But I know Jimmy Rivera or now Joe beat Rivera

970
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 8: is a mentality. What is it, Kenny? What am I missing?

971
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 6: I wouldn't be surprised if the UFC told both of

972
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 6: those people that.

973
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 7: It's like, you know, the dude who's talking to two girls.

974
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 6: And he's like, yeah, just in case this one does

975
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 6: he go all right, I'm gonna tell this tell the

976
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 6: other one right.

977
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 8: Who knows? But that was that's another good point, man,

978
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 8: But uh I think so Hud at thirty five hasn't

979
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 8: missed play yet, so I think it's twenty five would

980
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 8: have been a Betica scenario. But we'll see what happens. Man.

981
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 8: You know, it is funny because it happened with Al

982
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 8: and uh, somebody brought it up the other day and yeah,

983
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 8: that's that's that. That definitely makes everything interesting.

984
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 5: So so I was googling Ray Longo before the show,

985
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 5: just as part of my three show prep. I don't

986
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 5: always google you before the show, but I just want

987
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 5: to read a quote that I came across. We're not

988
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 5: talking about your imd dB page right now. I came

989
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 5: across this quote on UFC dot com. This is from

990
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 5: Ray Longo in two thousand. Once I opened up the school,

991
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 5: I always put a heavy emphasis on boxing more than

992
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 5: anything else. When I'm training guys, I force them to

993
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 5: box to see how they deal with the adversity of

994
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 5: getting hit. What you will get from boxing is the

995
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 5: ability to endure punishment. It's not really how hard you

996
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 5: can hit, it's how good you can take a punch.

997
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 5: Boxing tests your courage, to test your confidence. Some people

998
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 5: can never get over the fear of getting hit in

999
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 5: the face. That's just a problem I've seen some guys

1000
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 5: who wrestle, the first time a punch is thrown, they

1001
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 5: turn their head and run away when you're doing jiu jitsu.

1002
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 5: When you're doing wrestling, they're physically enduring pain on the

1003
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 5: body that gives you another whole set of skills. But

1004
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 5: the ability to take a shot, to take a hit

1005
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 5: and keep ongoing is from boxing. And then you go

1006
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 5: on to say nothing's going to test your courage like boxing.

1007
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 5: Once you get used to absorbing the punishment and you've

1008
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 5: developed the timing of having a live opponent in front

1009
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 5: of you and the necessary footwork to evade and attack properly,

1010
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 5: I think you're building an awareness that translates over perfectly

1011
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 5: for MMA. So the legendary Ray Lango I just was

1012
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 5: a great quote that stuck with me. So when you

1013
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 5: open the gym, it was all about boxing at first glance.

1014
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I know I do believe that boxing it

1015
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 8: is it tests your courage in a different way, just

1016
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 8: like you know, wrestling will just test your mental fortitude

1017
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 8: to have a guy grinding on you and you got

1018
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 8: to keep on going. This is uh, there's some somehow people.

1019
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 8: You know, once you get used to rolling with punches

1020
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 8: and taking punches. It frees your mind up. It's it's

1021
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 8: it's something that you have to do, but and you

1022
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 8: want to do it in the right way because you

1023
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 8: don't want obviously now we do have the CDU and

1024
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 8: all that stuff. Uh, you got to be you know,

1025
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 8: like they go okay, or at least you know, cognizant

1026
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 8: of the fact that, you know, some stuff could be

1027
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 8: bare for you. But now I don't think anything tests

1028
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 8: that because there's nothing to do, there's no place to go.

1029
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 8: You know, you got to fight back. You got to

1030
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 8: learn how to you know, deal with with the adversity

1031
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 8: of getting hit and controlling your breathing. And some guys

1032
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 8: never get comfortable with it. And some guys they love

1033
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 8: to sit in the pocket and just do their things.

1034
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 8: So yeah, I think that what I said there I

1035
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 8: would reiterate, you know, eight years later when over the

1036
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 8: hell it was.

1037
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 7: See.

1038
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 5: I mean, I've been punched in the face before hard,

1039
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 5: you know, like I didn't particularly like it, you know,

1040
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 5: but I sometimes will you know, maybe somebody that I

1041
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 5: don't like in my life, I'll say I think that

1042
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 5: I don't know if that guy's ever been punched in

1043
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 5: the face. I think he would do well to get

1044
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 5: punched in the face. I think a lot of people

1045
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 5: look at me and be like, man, I would love

1046
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 5: to punch that.

1047
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 8: But you know how empowering it would be John for

1048
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 8: you to say, let's go, let's go, let's do right,

1049
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. And then there's once you

1050
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 8: take that or the table, then what do they have?

1051
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 7: You know?

1052
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 8: And I think that's the uh, you know, that's the

1053
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 8: beauty of it. And again I'm not like, you know,

1054
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 8: promote like violence like that, but it is a great way.

1055
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 8: I think everybody should do it and they'll, I like

1056
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 8: everybody done in the right manner. I think it's like,

1057
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 8: you know, like I want to do a thing is

1058
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 8: you know, like Anthony Robbins says, walking over the coals,

1059
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 8: and I want to do it like a motivational thing.

1060
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 8: And at the end, you know, you get you get taught,

1061
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 8: but you have to go in and and spa a

1062
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 8: couple of rounds and deal with that. I think that's

1063
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 8: empowering way more. You're like, well and over you know

1064
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 8: comes that. You know a lot of scientists to come

1065
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 8: up with and tell you, you know, well, this is

1066
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 8: why you know you could do it? And blah blah blah.

1067
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 8: There's no way getting out of that once you're in

1068
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 8: that ring of doing locks in the octa guy, and

1069
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 8: you got to face your fears. And if it's done constructively,

1070
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 8: I think it could be one of the most empowering

1071
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 8: things there is.

1072
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I've been thought. Taking a few jiu jitsu

1073
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 5: classes was very empowering. You know, I want to go

1074
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 5: back every Tuesday for the rest of my life. But

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Speaker 5: it was very empowering being in there, you know.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, And I'll tell you jiu jitsu. I mean, I've

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Speaker 8: seen Matt eight guys that were just like ordinary. They

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Speaker 8: they're not playing any other sport, trust me, And they

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00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,919
Speaker 8: are phenomenal jiu jitsu guys. And they'll lat you onto

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Speaker 8: your neck and I don't care who you are, You're

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00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 8: going out. And that's the beauty of jiu jitsu. It's

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Speaker 8: a for self defense. I think everybody should learn, not

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00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 8: you know, for the other reasons with the boxing. You know, look,

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Speaker 8: it's like you get into a fight with a volante

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Speaker 8: or a wat I mean, what what on the street

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Speaker 8: and you have no school shiit Kenny, what chance do

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Speaker 8: you have? Yeah, it's tough, h you know, he's a

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00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 8: he's a skilled guys that are used to taking a beating.

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Speaker 8: I mean, what are you doing with him? You gotta

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Speaker 8: get lucky knock him out at one? What are younna do?

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00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 8: You're not gonna out wrestling him. You're not submitting them,

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Speaker 8: you know. I'm just saying you're the average, you know,

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Speaker 8: tough guy in the neighbor.

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Speaker 7: That ship's gone right.

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Speaker 8: People are really well trained today, and it's that that

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Speaker 8: gets a little scary.

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Speaker 7: Yep.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that cauliflower here. You don't go anywhere near the

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Speaker 5: guys with the cauliflower, you know. That's what you gotta

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Speaker 5: That's what you got a spot for sure. That's like,

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Speaker 5: that's really why I want to wrestle on jiu jitsu.

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Speaker 5: Is I want to lifetime of repetitions in the game.

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Speaker 8: That's Kenny will put you in a headlog for here.

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Speaker 8: Fairly you're real, be perfect.

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Speaker 5: Kenny's not just that. Kenny's not just that straight jiu

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00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 5: jitsu guy, world class soccer skills underneath that.

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00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 7: A soccer game breaks out. I'm good, I'm good.

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00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, Kenny was awesome. The footwork, like, uh, who'd you have?

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00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 8: Peter Welch, who I really like a lot. I thought

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00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 8: your foot worth your movement, you could punch in balance.

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00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 8: I think he was awesome me and you were a

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Speaker 8: great just a great fighter.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, man, oh man, just such a good, good

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00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 5: feeling all around. All right, man, Well, unless you have

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00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 5: anything else, next week, hopefully we'll go a little bit

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00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 5: deeper on Sterling and Munio's. But I'm really excited. And

1117
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 5: tell your guy we're excited for him, and uh, maybe

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00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 5: he'll crash the Ray long go minute next week or something.

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Speaker 8: Oh, we're gonna I think we we'll do it. He's

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Speaker 8: a good he's a really good dude. And I listen

1121
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 8: when I get off the phone, you're not gonna bash me.

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00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 8: I didn't give you anything. What do you what do

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00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 8: you need?

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Speaker 5: I know, I think we're good today at we're on

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00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 5: a grabbing you on a federal holiday. I know you

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00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 5: weren't available earlier, but we hung around the studio a

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00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 5: little bit longer because we wanted to get you in.

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Speaker 5: So thanks for breaking away for us, and uh, we

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00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 5: will talk to you in less than a week.

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Speaker 8: My men, who's better than you? Guys?

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00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 5: You wreck you are? Thank you buddy, definitely, yes, there

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00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 5: he is the great Ray long ago. I think I'm

1133
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 5: so excited for that fight because I did get to

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Speaker 5: spend a little bit of time with Pedro Muno's and

1135
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 5: Rio and just sort of getting ready for the next

1136
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 5: pay per view. It just is a huge event.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 5: It feels like these pay per views feel like super

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00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 5: Bowls to me in a lot of respects. And for

1140
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 5: al Jail, right, it's like you only get these chances, right, Kenny,

1141
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 5: Like they only come around once in life, and he

1142
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 5: has to be the best bantam weight or one of

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00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 5: them on June eighth, and if he isn't, then maybe

1144
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 5: it's just not going to happen for him in terms

1145
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 5: of becoming a UFC champion and the magnitude of it,

1146
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 5: the stakes, it just you know, gets my blood boiling.

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00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 7: Without a doubt.

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Speaker 9: Man.

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00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 6: Listen, if not impossible for him to come back if

1150
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 6: he doesn't get the win here, but certainly a lot

1151
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 6: of pressure on his shoulders for this one. This was

1152
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 6: one of those fights that definitely is do or die

1153
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 6: and who knows what happens, And again, a lot of

1154
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 6: things can go wrong between now and when Marie fights,

1155
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 6: and you know, who knows the only thing that makes

1156
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 6: sense for Pedro munos is. The fact that he does

1157
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 6: is that Modis does have that win over al jor course,

1158
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 6: which might put him in the front as a front

1159
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 6: runner there if something goes wrong with that fight.

1160
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 7: But who knows.

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Speaker 5: Championship doubleheader UFC two thirty eight coming up June eighth.

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Speaker 5: We will be back in a week to preview that

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00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 5: for you. The only championship stakes tonight though, Monday, May

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00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,479
Speaker 5: twenty seventh, of course, the Stanley Cup Final getting ooh

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00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 5: May in Boston, Massachusetts. And I'll try to say this

1166
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 5: as respectfully as possible. You know, I think people outside

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00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 5: of Boston, even the ones who listen to this podcast,

1168
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 5: really are hoping that the Saint Louis Blues can find

1169
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 5: a way, you know, because it's just been enough, right

1170
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 5: for people outside Boston.

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00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 8: Just enough.

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00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 7: How do you stop them at this point? I mean

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00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 7: it's crazy.

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00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 6: And again, you know, the Celtics, you know, they had

1175
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 6: their issues, but imagine if they were able to get

1176
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 6: as a team won four World championships. Ever, Detroit was

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00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 6: the last team to get three, right, and then Wylleen

1178
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 6: thirties right.

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Speaker 5: But you know, my son was born June twenty three,

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00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 5: twenty eighteen, I mean, you're going to tell me that

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00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,959
Speaker 5: they're going to win every single pro sports the first

1182
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 5: three that are there to if you want in his life. Unbelievable.

1183
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 5: But first things first, of course they got to beat

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Speaker 5: the same blew Is Blues. Best luck to the Boston Bruins.

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Speaker 5: Thanks to everybody for listening. Thanks to great longo Ian Parker.

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Speaker 5: Of course TJ. Desant is behind the glass, and of

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Speaker 5: course to all of the fallen servicemen and women that

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Speaker 5: we remember today and ideally more days than just today.

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