Speaker 1: Hey listeners, before today's episode, I wanted to let you
Speaker 1: know about a brand new podcast called Strange Arrivals that's
Speaker 1: produced by Aaron Manky and the entire team at I
Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Strange Arrivals is a ten part mini series
Speaker 1: about the occurrence that happened when Betty and Barney Hill
Speaker 1: were driving through the White Mountains of New Hampshire when
Speaker 1: they were faced with a flash of light in the
Speaker 1: sky and said they were abducted by aliens. Host Toby
Speaker 1: Ball will examine the Hills story and ask the question
Speaker 1: what really happened that night in New Hampshire. So keep
Speaker 1: listening after today's episode for an amazing trailer about the series,
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Speaker 1: Noble Blood, a production of I Heart Radio and Grimm
Speaker 1: and Mild from Aaron Minky. Listener discretion is advised, they
Speaker 1: say at after decapitation, the human brain can remain conscious
Speaker 1: for several seconds, maybe even up to a minute, even
Speaker 1: without fresh blood being pumped up from the heart. The
Speaker 1: brain still has oxygen and neurons firing rapidly in confusion
Speaker 1: her pain. They say that when Anne Boleyn's head fell
Speaker 1: from her body into the straw waiting below, her dark,
Speaker 1: intelligent eyes still flickered and blinked, and that her white
Speaker 1: lips pressed together and apart, as if she was trying
Speaker 1: to say one last thing. It seems fitting that even
Speaker 1: in death, Anne would try to continue to speak. It
Speaker 1: was her silver tongue that had initially charmed the king,
Speaker 1: back when Anne was just a lady in waiting. No
Speaker 1: one ever described her as the most beautiful girl at court,
Speaker 1: although she was striking with her dark hair and her
Speaker 1: milky skin so pale it was almost translucent. No, it
Speaker 1: was her wit and her intelligence, her innate ability to
Speaker 1: know exactly how to flirt without seeming like she was
Speaker 1: trying to flirt. Anne engaged with poets and philosophers, and
Speaker 1: debated issues of politics and religion. Henry had loved that
Speaker 1: about Anne back when he was pursuing her, that she
Speaker 1: had challenged and teased him, but he found those qualities
Speaker 1: far less compelling in a wife. Henry the Eighth did
Speaker 1: Anne one kindness in her beheading. He had brought in
Speaker 1: the hangman of Calais, known for his skill and accuracy
Speaker 1: with the sword to do her decapitation, to liberate her
Speaker 1: head from her neck in one smooth motion, instead of
Speaker 1: the typical englishman with an axe, who was known to
Speaker 1: sometimes take two or even three swings to get the
Speaker 1: job done. The five men accused of being Anne's lovers
Speaker 1: had been executed by Englishmen back when Henry was in
Speaker 1: love with Anne. He disposed of his loyal wife twenty
Speaker 1: four years and come completely overthrew the foundation of religion
Speaker 1: in England along the way. It was all for the
Speaker 1: promise of being with Anne, and for the promise of
Speaker 1: the son that she would bear him. When that son
Speaker 1: didn't come, obsession soured in Henry into something corrosive and hateful.
Speaker 1: It would cost Anne her life. She had played the
Speaker 1: game well enough, masterfully really, to become a queen, but
Speaker 1: in the end there was nothing she could do to
Speaker 1: save her own life. I'm danishchwartz and this is noble blood.
Speaker 1: When Anne Boleyn found out that Henry's first wife, Catherine
Speaker 1: of Arragon, died, Anne exhaled with a mixture of relief
Speaker 1: and pleasure. As head of the Church of England, Henry
Speaker 1: had officially declared himself divorced from Catherine, and he had
Speaker 1: married Anne. But Catherine still was calling herself the Queen
Speaker 1: of England. And as much as Anne hated to admit it,
Speaker 1: the people had loved Catherine. They hissed a Anne in
Speaker 1: the streets, called her Henry's goggalied whore. But now that
Speaker 1: Catherine was dead, there was to be no more confusion.
Speaker 1: There was one Queen of England, one wife of Henry
Speaker 1: the eighth, Anne Boleyn. Anne had entranced Henry when she
Speaker 1: returned from a childhood in the French court, instantly astonishing
Speaker 1: the English with her wit and daring French fashion and
Speaker 1: her allegedly dazzling repertoire of sexual foreplay. When Anne arrived
Speaker 1: all glamor and fresh promise, Henry the eighth was facing
Speaker 1: the massive issue of his wife, Katherine. After two decades
Speaker 1: of marriage and half a dozen miscarriages, Catherine was entering menopause,
Speaker 1: having only given Henry a single daughter. The Tutor dynasty
Speaker 1: started only by Henr His father needed sons if it
Speaker 1: were to continue to survive. Without a clear line of succession,
Speaker 1: England could once again be plunged into a miserable civil war.
Speaker 1: But what were Henry's options. His Spanish wife was powerful
Speaker 1: and connected. Her nephew was the Holy Roman Emperor who
Speaker 1: had the Vatican under his thumb. But if everything was
Speaker 1: supposed to work out with Catherine, if everything was so perfect,
Speaker 1: then why hadn't God given them a son? That was
Speaker 1: the nagging voice in the back of Henry's head. After all,
Speaker 1: Catherine had been married to Henry's older brother, Arthur First
Speaker 1: for six months, until Arthur died of the sweating sickness.
Speaker 1: Didn't the Bible forbid marrying your brother's wife. Catherine had
Speaker 1: sworn that the marriage had never been consummated, and the
Speaker 1: Vatican offered special dispensation. But what if she had been lying?
Speaker 1: What if that was the reason that God was cursing
Speaker 1: Henry with a lack of sons? And then Anne appeared, flirting,
Speaker 1: making Henry feel away that he couldn't remember feeling for
Speaker 1: a long time. He was still in his thirties, vital.
Speaker 1: With a new wife, he could have a dozen sons.
Speaker 1: Although he begged Anne, she refused to be his royal mistress,
Speaker 1: refused to even sleep with him unless they were married.
Speaker 1: Unless you divorce Katherine and marry me, Anne said, Catherine
Speaker 1: of Arragon was banished to a remote palace and told
Speaker 1: she was no longer Queen. Henry declared himself head of
Speaker 1: the Church of England. While the nation protested and hurled
Speaker 1: insults Anne, Henry married her in a secret ceremony. Within months,
Speaker 1: she was pregnant. All of Henry's advisers, all of the doctors,
Speaker 1: and the soothsayers said that this would be the son
Speaker 1: he was waiting for, the boy that would show that
Speaker 1: God was pleased with him and that he made the
Speaker 1: right choice. When the doctor nervously announced that Queen Anne
Speaker 1: had given birth to a healthy baby girl, Henry couldn't
Speaker 1: hide his disdain or his anger. But Anne loved her daughter,
Speaker 1: the little girl they named Elizabeth. Anne played with her
Speaker 1: dangling fingers over her bassinet, cooing at her beautiful daughter
Speaker 1: with golden curls. Anne knew that there was still time
Speaker 1: for her to have a son, still time for her
Speaker 1: to secure her position, even if Henry's eye had already
Speaker 1: begun to wander while Anne was on bedrest for her pregnancy,
Speaker 1: while Catherine of Arragon had diplomatically turned a blind eye
Speaker 1: to Henry's philandering, Anne became furious. She was jealous and
Speaker 1: hot headed, with a biting tongue that never demurred from
Speaker 1: a fight. But also, Catherine had been born and raised
Speaker 1: a princess. Anne had once been a commoner. She had
Speaker 1: been a lady in waiting who caught Henry's eye and
Speaker 1: usurped a queen, and so she was perfectly aware that
Speaker 1: the exact same thing could happen to her. Nothing protected
Speaker 1: her except the possibility of a son. Anne got pregnant again,
Speaker 1: and the court instantly began celebrating. When she miscarried just
Speaker 1: three months later, it was so embarrassing that it wasn't
Speaker 1: publicly announced, just a shameful whisper that circulated amongst the court,
Speaker 1: starting with the woman who had changed Anne's bedsheets. Henry
Speaker 1: and Anne both believed what everyone believed back in the
Speaker 1: fifteen hundreds, that a miscarriage was a failure on the
Speaker 1: part of the woman, a sign of God's ultimate displeasure.
Speaker 1: The next miscarriage, too, was another tightly kept secret, and
Speaker 1: the third was so well hidden that it's impossible to
Speaker 1: trace when it actually occurred. By the time Catherine of
Speaker 1: Arragon finally died, Anne was well aware that she was
Speaker 1: carrying what could very well be her final hope. Anne
Speaker 1: and Henry had been married for three years, but already
Speaker 1: he had stopped coming to her bedroom. He ignored her
Speaker 1: when he could, spending most of his time doating on
Speaker 1: one of Anne's own ladies, Jane Seymour. Plain, obedient, soft spoken,
Speaker 1: Jane Seymour, the exact opposite of Anne in every conceivable way.
Speaker 1: Henry newly besott it gave Jane Seymour a locket containing
Speaker 1: his portrait. Jane made the mistake of wearing it and
Speaker 1: flicking it open and shut like a schoolgirl in love.
Speaker 1: When Anne entered the room and saw the necklace, she
Speaker 1: ripped it off Jane's neck with so much force that
Speaker 1: Anne's fingers bled. The country already hated Anne, and she
Speaker 1: had made powerful enemies in court. By pulling Henry away
Speaker 1: from Catherine and away from the Catholic Church, Anne had
Speaker 1: very few cards left to play. The old thing keeping
Speaker 1: her in power was the child in her belly and
Speaker 1: Henry's love for her, and that seemed to be diminishing
Speaker 1: every day. Neither Henry nor Anne attended Catherine of Argan's funeral,
Speaker 1: where she was laid to rest, not with the title
Speaker 1: of former Queen but of dowager princess. That exact day,
Speaker 1: miles away, Anne Boleyn miscarried a baby boy. Reports at
Speaker 1: the time say that the cold, still tiny boy was
Speaker 1: perfect and beautiful. Years later people would write that it
Speaker 1: was misshapen, that it had physical deformities, evidence of its
Speaker 1: mother committing some truly awful sin, adultery, incest, or witchcraft.
Speaker 1: But at the time there didn't need to be any
Speaker 1: further proof. The sun that could have saved her life
Speaker 1: was dead, and Anne Boleyn's fate was sealed. A man's
Speaker 1: behavior became panicked and erratic. The man who had once
Speaker 1: been so wildly in love with her he overthrew the
Speaker 1: entire religious foundation of a nation, was now writing love
Speaker 1: letters to another woman. Henry had stopped coming to her bed.
Speaker 1: She was the queen, but she was also becoming increasingly
Speaker 1: aware of what a precarious position that was. When her
Speaker 1: king was Henry the Eighth, Anne engaged one of the
Speaker 1: king's close friends, Sir Henry Norris, one afternoon to ask
Speaker 1: him why he was still unmarried. An flirtation was normal
Speaker 1: expected even if a queen. A queen was meant to
Speaker 1: be beloved by all the knightly men of a kingdom
Speaker 1: to inspire love and loyalty in them. But when Sir
Speaker 1: Henry Norris demered, Anne continued pressing closer to him in
Speaker 1: the hallway than might have been prudent. I think, Anne, per,
Speaker 1: that you're waiting to marry a rich widow, you look
Speaker 1: for dead men's shoe. Is that so, Sir Henry Norris replied,
Speaker 1: smiling just a little bit. Anne looked into his eyes.
Speaker 1: I think if something were to happen to the king,
Speaker 1: you would look to marry me. Sir Henry Norris's smile disappeared.
Speaker 1: To even think such a thing would cost me my head?
Speaker 1: He said. Anne had crossed the line from courtly flirtation
Speaker 1: to outrighte treason. It was a good thing. Anne thought,
Speaker 1: as she returned to her chamber that night, that no
Speaker 1: one had heard them. Another night, one of Anne Boleyn's
Speaker 1: ladies in waiting, Lady Wooster, spent a banquet drinking slightly
Speaker 1: too much wine and dancing slightly too close to one
Speaker 1: or two eligible men. The next day, Lady Wooster's brother
Speaker 1: confronted her and told her that she needed to stop
Speaker 1: her behavior before her reputation was ruined. Lady Wooster just laughed.
Speaker 1: If you think I'm bad, she said, I'm nothing compared
Speaker 1: to the Queen. Anne has men her bed chamber late
Speaker 1: at night all the time, including a certain Mark Smeaton.
Speaker 1: Smeaton was a court musician, and Lady Wooster wasn't the
Speaker 1: only one who noticed that Anne seemed to particularly enjoy
Speaker 1: his company. Within days of the conversation between Lady Wooster
Speaker 1: and her brother, Mark Smeaton was taken in for questioning
Speaker 1: by the King's Chief Minister, Thomas Cromwell. We don't know
Speaker 1: what happened behind closed doors, whether Smeaton was tortured or coerced.
Speaker 1: He might have even been telling the truth. It's impossible
Speaker 1: to know, but Mark Smeaton confessed to Thomas Cromwell that
Speaker 1: he had slept with Queen Anne Boleyn on three separate occasions.
Speaker 1: Anne Boleyn was arrested while she was watching a tennis
Speaker 1: match and brought to a dim room where she was
Speaker 1: interrogated by three men on charges of adultery and treason.
Speaker 1: They asked her about Mark Smeaton. Anne was completely baffled
Speaker 1: and indignant. She denied ever sleeping with anyone except her husband,
Speaker 1: the King. They asked about the conversation she had had
Speaker 1: with Sir Henry Norris. This time Anne sputtered a little,
Speaker 1: but still her point was clear. She hadn't sinned against
Speaker 1: the King. The three men interrogating her were stony faced
Speaker 1: and cruel, completely unmoved. Her lovers had already confessed, they
Speaker 1: told her. Anne was escorted back to her chamber. She
Speaker 1: and her ladies sat down to a silent dinner. None
Speaker 1: of Anne's ladies made eye contact with her. The few
Speaker 1: servants standing nearby barely managed to conceal her tears. That
Speaker 1: very afternoon, Anne was brought to the Tower of London.
Speaker 1: She was given no time to pack clothes or any
Speaker 1: personal belongings, and though she begged to say goodbye to
Speaker 1: her daughter Elizabeth, the guards pretended not to hear her.
Speaker 1: Most criminals were brought to the tower in the middle
Speaker 1: of the night. Anne was brought by barge down the
Speaker 1: River Thames in broad daylight, with crowds gawking at her
Speaker 1: and shouting as she went by. Anne begged to see
Speaker 1: the king. If she could see Henry face to face,
Speaker 1: if she could just talk to him, she could charm
Speaker 1: him like she had before. She could remind him of
Speaker 1: his love for her. He must have some tiny ounce
Speaker 1: of affection for her left in his heart. Anne didn't
Speaker 1: know that she and Henry would never lay eyes on
Speaker 1: each other ever again. At five p m. She arrived
Speaker 1: at the Tower of London, dazed and terrified. Am I
Speaker 1: to be put in the dungeons? She said? The guards
Speaker 1: shook his head. Anne was to be brought to the
Speaker 1: Royal Apartments, the very same rooms that she had stayed
Speaker 1: in the night before her coronation. The rooms had been
Speaker 1: unused since. Hearing the Anne flung herself onto the cobblestones.
Speaker 1: It is too good for me, she sobbed A cannon
Speaker 1: on the tower wharf thundered. It was the sound that
Speaker 1: rang when a person of nobility was brought to be
Speaker 1: imprisoned in the fortress. It echoed through the city, causing
Speaker 1: excitement and speculation. King Henry, deep inside the palace, didn't
Speaker 1: hear it. He wouldn't make another public appearance until after
Speaker 1: Anne was dead and buried. The man in charge of
Speaker 1: Anne's custody while she was in the Tower of London
Speaker 1: was a former knight named Sir William Kingston. Kingston was
Speaker 1: tall and in his youth had been a strong and
Speaker 1: triumphant jouster, even facing off against the king. He had
Speaker 1: been devoted to Queen Catherine throughout his long career, but
Speaker 1: even so during Anne's imprisonment he would only ever treat
Speaker 1: her with courtesy and kindness. All of Anne's servants have
Speaker 1: been dismissed replay eased by five new ladies, all spies
Speaker 1: who were tasked with asking Anne about her alleged lovers
Speaker 1: and her treasonous conversations, and then reporting back her answers
Speaker 1: to Thomas Cromwell. But Anne never said anything incriminating. Instead,
Speaker 1: her spies just reported that her mood shifted wildly from
Speaker 1: wretching sobs to ecstatic laughter. Sometimes Anne would just burst
Speaker 1: out laughing and say that history would remember her as
Speaker 1: Anne the Headless. My innocence will save me, won't it.
Speaker 1: I am innocent, and so the law will save me.
Speaker 1: Anne thought maybe Henry was just testing her. He loved her,
Speaker 1: didn't he. Even if he had tired of her, he
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't kill her. Anne was accused of adultery with
Speaker 1: five men, including her own brother, even though all of
Speaker 1: the men, with the exception of Mark Smeaton, had proclaimed
Speaker 1: their innocence the number was a calculated move on the
Speaker 1: part of Thomas Cromwell and the King. One man could
Speaker 1: be a mistake, but Anne being accused of intimacy with
Speaker 1: five men the accusation alone cemented her guilt. When Anne
Speaker 1: was called to her tribunal to stand before the jury
Speaker 1: of twenty six men and listened to the allegations against her,
Speaker 1: she didn't dress like she was walking to her death sentence. Instead,
Speaker 1: Anne wore a black velvet gown and a red petticoat,
Speaker 1: as if she were dressed to be awarded a medal
Speaker 1: at some noble ceremony. She wasn't allowed to bring any
Speaker 1: witnesses or have any legal counsel. All Anne could do
Speaker 1: was continued to proclaim her innocence, to offer the best
Speaker 1: defense she could, speaking with the eloquence and the intelligence
Speaker 1: that Henry had once fallen in love with. Never before
Speaker 1: in English history had a queen been sentenced to death.
Speaker 1: Henry was just trying to scare her and thought, trying
Speaker 1: to soothe herself to stave off the panic, maybe she
Speaker 1: would just be banished. The Duke of Norfolk had tears
Speaker 1: in his eyes when he read out the sentence. Anne
Speaker 1: was his niece, his own sister's child. Some might have
Speaker 1: thought that he was crying in grief or pity. Really,
Speaker 1: though it was more likely he was crying for his
Speaker 1: own lost honor and status. He read aloud, for offending
Speaker 1: our Sovereign, the King, in committing treason against his person,
Speaker 1: Anne Boleyn is sentenced to be burned within the Tower
Speaker 1: of London on the Green, or else to have her
Speaker 1: head cut off. Anne's expression didn't change when they read
Speaker 1: her sentence. She lifted her eyes at the sky, but
Speaker 1: she didn't cry. She maintained her innocence. I am ready
Speaker 1: to greet death, she said. Finally, I am just sorry
Speaker 1: for the others who are innocent and the King's loyal subjects,
Speaker 1: that they should share my fate and die because of me.
Speaker 1: Kingston escorted Anne back to her chambers, and Anne asked
Speaker 1: to see a priest so that she could confess. The
Speaker 1: Archbishop of Canterbury arrived to take Anne's final confession. Anne
Speaker 1: was already sentenced to death. There was nothing she could
Speaker 1: lose in confessing her sins now, and Anne knew that
Speaker 1: if she told a lie in confession, she would be
Speaker 1: damning her soul to eternal torment. She confessed to jealousy,
Speaker 1: but nothing else. The archbishop asked if she was sure
Speaker 1: she was done. Anne lowered her head. God knows that
Speaker 1: I have not sinned against him in any other way.
Speaker 1: Anne watched from her window as all five men, including
Speaker 1: her own brother, were beheaded on the Tower Green. There
Speaker 1: were whispers that Henry had put her in those rooms
Speaker 1: specifically so that she could see those deaths. Anne's own
Speaker 1: death was still aways away. They were specifically constructing a
Speaker 1: new scaffolding for her so more OWDs could gather and
Speaker 1: see their fallen queen end in a rush of blood.
Speaker 1: Anne turned away from the constructions she could see from
Speaker 1: the window. I wish all this was over, that the
Speaker 1: pain would just be finished already, she said to Kingston.
Speaker 1: Kingston softly replied that he believed that when the end
Speaker 1: finally came, there would be no pain, and when that
Speaker 1: day finally came, Kingston helped Anne up the wooden steps
Speaker 1: to the stage on the Green, accompanied by four ladies.
Speaker 1: The ladies helped Anne to undress her neck, taking off
Speaker 1: her head dress and the small white fur cloak she
Speaker 1: wore a symbol of royalty. They gathered Anne's hair in
Speaker 1: a linen cap so it wouldn't get in the way
Speaker 1: of a sword. Anne whispered to her ladies and asked
Speaker 1: them to pray for her. Unlike in an axe beheading,
Speaker 1: a decapitation by sword required the victim to kneel very tall,
Speaker 1: a right on both knees. Anne took the position with
Speaker 1: as much grace as she could, but there was still
Speaker 1: fear in her eyes and knew she had to keep
Speaker 1: very still if the death was to be quick, But
Speaker 1: she kept looking around, terrified for the moment when the
Speaker 1: man with the sword would make his attack. Madam, do
Speaker 1: not fear, the swordsman said, I will wait until you
Speaker 1: are ready. Anne said a few words before her death
Speaker 1: to the crowd below the nearly two thousand Englishmen who
Speaker 1: had gathered for the spectacle. She accepted death, reasserted her
Speaker 1: innocence once more, and asked for the good people to
Speaker 1: pray for Henry and those who were sending her to death.
Speaker 1: While Anne was looking away, the swordsman pulled his blade
Speaker 1: from a pile of straw, where it had been hidden
Speaker 1: so Anne wouldn't see. He wore no shoes so that
Speaker 1: his step would be silent, so that when he came
Speaker 1: up behind Anne, she wouldn't hear him, and then in
Speaker 1: one stroke, her head was gone, fallen in a bloody mass,
Speaker 1: into the pile of straw and sawdust. Waiting to welcome it.
Speaker 1: One of Anne's ladies threw a white handkerchief over the head,
Speaker 1: and the crowd watched as it slowly dappled with red blood.
Speaker 1: The Queen of England was dead. Eleven days later, Henry
Speaker 1: the Eighth married Anne's lady in waiting, Jane Seymour. That's
Speaker 1: the story of Anne Boleyn's death, but stick around after
Speaker 1: a brief sponsor break to hear a little bit about
Speaker 1: Anne's afterlife. Anne Boleyn is one of the most famous
Speaker 1: and enigmatic figures in Alish history, and she's also one
Speaker 1: of England's most ubiquitous ghosts. According to a Victorian legend,
Speaker 1: on certain nights, if you're on the road towards Blickling
Speaker 1: Hall in Norfolk, where Anne was born, you might see
Speaker 1: a carriage passed by. If you happen to look inside,
Speaker 1: you'll see Anne bathed in a red glow and wearing
Speaker 1: a pure white dress, holding her head gently in her lap.
Speaker 1: The moment that the carriage arrives at the front of
Speaker 1: the house, it vanishes into Miss Anne can arrive at
Speaker 1: her destination, but she can't stay. Alison Weir has written
Speaker 1: extensively about Anne Boleyn and the myths and rumors surrounding
Speaker 1: her death, and so I defer to her expertise on
Speaker 1: the subject of Anne's ghosts, on which she writes as
Speaker 1: a historian. I make no further comment on the veracity
Speaker 1: of these stories or the existence of ghosts. Noble Blood
Speaker 1: is a production of I Heart Radio and Grimm and
Speaker 1: Mild from Aaron Monkey. The show was written and hosted
Speaker 1: by Danis Schwartz and produced by Aaron Mankey, Matt Frederick,
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Speaker 1: your favorite shows. On September, Betty and Barney Hill cut
Speaker 1: their vacation short and decided to drive home. They were
Speaker 1: having difficulty finding their way around the city, and Barney
Speaker 1: decided he just wanted to drive home, knowing that they
Speaker 1: would arrive at their home on New Hampshire Sea Coast
Speaker 1: at about two o'clock in the morning. What they saw
Speaker 1: that night in the New Hampshire sky would change everything.
Speaker 1: I began walking across the highway, looking up at the
Speaker 1: object with the binoculars, putting them down, taking my head, saying, well,
Speaker 1: this yet can't be true. I don't believe it. A
Speaker 1: light in the sky. At first, she thought of a
Speaker 1: falling star, but she realized that following stars don't fall upwards,
Speaker 1: and that's what this one was doing. Two years later,
Speaker 1: the Hills would undergo hypnosis. How a boy did you
Speaker 1: regress that? Before? I started telling I just look back
Speaker 1: to the starting point of Montreal. A sinister story would emerge.
Speaker 1: He walk he's trying to start the car walked back.
Speaker 1: I think, well, I can't get away for this. I
Speaker 1: guess if I get the card or of like a
Speaker 1: brother than wits and hide that became known the world over.
Speaker 1: Doctor Simon gave me a post amatic suggestion. He said,
Speaker 1: if I wanted to, I could sketch the star map,
Speaker 1: but if I didn't want to, I didn't have to.
Speaker 1: So about two weeks later, I sketched. Their account has
Speaker 1: been scrutinized. Under the influence of hypnosis, especially if you're
Speaker 1: highly hypnotize herbal you are even more susceptible to contamination
Speaker 1: and distortion by scientists, skeptics, theorists, and believers. He wound
Speaker 1: up building a total of more than twenty three dimensional
Speaker 1: models and was able to find one and only one
Speaker 1: pattern that matched what Betty had drawn. What happened on
Speaker 1: that night journey in. Were the Hills confused about what
Speaker 1: they saw? Or did they have an encounter with beings
Speaker 1: not of this world? From My Heart Radio and Aaron
Speaker 1: Manky's Grimm and Mild, this is Strange Arrivals. Listen to
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