Speaker 1: This is Drive Time with Travis Wingfield.
Speaker 2: What is up Dolphins? And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 2: I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show,
Speaker 2: it's time to get into our summer content series. We're
Speaker 2: going to talk to a couple of Dolphins. Patrick Paul
Speaker 2: and Aaron Brewer joined me plus the first of eight
Speaker 2: divisional previews the AFC West up today from the Baptist
Speaker 2: Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 1: This is the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 3: May daff.
Speaker 2: Up first, Dolphin Center. Aaron Brewer joining us today on
Speaker 2: the Draft Time Podcast is Dolphin Center.
Speaker 1: Aaron Brewer. Twin right, what's up man? How are you doing?
Speaker 3: I'm doing good man, bless on this good Monday.
Speaker 2: We share a birthday in case folks didn't know that,
Speaker 2: that's how we go. We kind of hit it off
Speaker 2: that way Halloween birthdays. How was last year's birthday for you? Uh?
Speaker 1: First of Miami?
Speaker 4: It was cool. I didn't do much last year, you know,
Speaker 4: my rad shot here. I'm just trying to get comfortable
Speaker 4: with the area. Yeah, but this year is it's my
Speaker 4: goal in the year. You know what I'm saying, Because
Speaker 4: this year turned twenty eight twenty eighth. Yeah, kind of
Speaker 4: like a special year two for me. You know, like
Speaker 4: this meant like my theory, so you know birthday ten
Speaker 4: twenty eight ten then twenty eight two plus eight equals
Speaker 4: ten number fifty five five plus five ten twenty eight
Speaker 4: This year to mass ten man, what's it's a special year.
Speaker 1: That's like it's like astrology.
Speaker 2: That's the wrong term for it, but there's like, what's
Speaker 2: the There's something behind that, Like there's a I'm trying
Speaker 2: to say right here, but you believe in like some
Speaker 2: type of like divine intervention.
Speaker 3: Almost yes, And I definitely think that's what.
Speaker 2: It is special your year. So I wanted to I
Speaker 2: wanted to throw this by you here real quick. I
Speaker 2: got a nickname for you, ready for it. I think
Speaker 2: we should call you cold Brew.
Speaker 1: Cold brew because you're cold on the field. That seems
Speaker 1: brew delicious. It is the most delicious strength there is.
Speaker 1: I like the opinion. So I just wanted to run
Speaker 1: that by your own.
Speaker 3: Like a nice little ad.
Speaker 2: Okay, he's sponsorship somewhere's I'm golling with coldbroof now on.
Speaker 2: All right, So your first year here, Aaron was outstanding.
Speaker 2: I thought you should have been in the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 2: But what what the hell do I know? So how
Speaker 2: can you take from that first year and build here
Speaker 2: into your second year with the Dolphins.
Speaker 4: Uh, it's what I've been saying for a minute now,
Speaker 4: you know, Just that's another year on top of another
Speaker 4: year deffinitely in this same program too, because like the
Speaker 4: year before I came here, that was my first four
Speaker 4: year at starting at center. And I don't know in
Speaker 4: a while because even though even in college I was
Speaker 4: playing guard, center tackle, finished my senior year at right
Speaker 4: tackle the whole season, so I ain't never just had
Speaker 4: a full season of just center. And so coming from
Speaker 4: Tennessee to a whole different uh what's the name scheme
Speaker 4: or whatever, similar but different scheme, have another year at
Speaker 4: center and getting comfortable in this scheme this year, like
Speaker 4: it gets real spooky, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So, how's how's it change?
Speaker 2: Like having the knowledge of the offense the way you
Speaker 2: do at that position, how is it changed versus going
Speaker 2: into a season where you know new leverage, new you know,
Speaker 2: new first step maybe you have to learn, Like how
Speaker 2: is it?
Speaker 1: How different is it?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: It's a little different, But you know, we start so
Speaker 4: early in April, even like when the season going though,
Speaker 4: Like you got to learn that technique, get real comfortable
Speaker 4: with it, and the more time you got doing that technique,
Speaker 4: the better you'll be. And so that's what this situation
Speaker 4: is now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes perfect sense. What is it about playing center?
Speaker 2: Because you mentioned playing tackle and guard, but you found
Speaker 2: your home here in Miami at center. What is it
Speaker 2: about center that makes you the best version of yourself
Speaker 2: and that you like the most.
Speaker 3: Center.
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm in there running the show, and I like,
Speaker 4: don't nothing move before me.
Speaker 3: I get everything going.
Speaker 4: And so just being in that position and being able
Speaker 4: to have that first step on everybody, like even like
Speaker 4: if I was at guard tackle, like I'm an explosive player,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So I got a good
Speaker 4: first two step, first step, fast, whatever, and so at center,
Speaker 4: I'm controlling when we start and I get to jump that.
Speaker 3: So it just it's it's a cheap code for me,
Speaker 3: to be.
Speaker 2: Honest, because yeah, because no one knows what you know,
Speaker 2: when the ball's coming off and coming off the snap.
Speaker 3: You're not going to move faster than me neither.
Speaker 2: I believe that because I put together, we did a
Speaker 2: thing last year where I think we posted a reel
Speaker 2: of some of your best plays and I was tasked
Speaker 2: with going and finding them. And there was just some
Speaker 2: clips where you were out outside the numbers, putting the
Speaker 2: safety on his back, or you know, cutting off a
Speaker 2: linebacker that had you out leveraged. What's what is your
Speaker 2: favorite thing to execute on a football field? What's the
Speaker 2: thing like, you know, for a slugger, it's a four
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty foot home run. Right for Steph Curry,
Speaker 2: it's hitting the game winning shot. What's your favorite thing
Speaker 2: to do on.
Speaker 1: A football field?
Speaker 4: You No, I like real like old school, like grimy football,
Speaker 4: you know, so back in the day, like them blind
Speaker 4: side hits, like big hits like I love though so whenever,
Speaker 4: like I'm running, I see like just a sweet spot,
Speaker 4: like a person standing like he's squared, or like I
Speaker 4: just find that good angle down. No, I fin to
Speaker 4: get him, like that's that home run. You just can
Speaker 4: run through a person face and it's just a bu You.
Speaker 1: Must have been a fan of the game NFL. What's
Speaker 1: growing up?
Speaker 4: Yes, big time breaking bones. Yeah, that was my strength.
Speaker 4: That was my stuff.
Speaker 2: I used to play with a Marino and O J. McDuffie,
Speaker 2: Maria McDuffie every time. That was my favorite game to play.
Speaker 2: So coming into this season, we have potentially two new
Speaker 2: guards Beside James Daniels. We draft Jonah Savit Naya, which
Speaker 2: he told me I nailed his name. I think I
Speaker 2: just did it again right there, So very proud of
Speaker 2: myself for that. But two new guards potentially next to you.
Speaker 2: What's the challenge of getting to know two new players
Speaker 2: on either post?
Speaker 4: Just knowing like first figuring out knowing them as a person,
Speaker 4: getting that connection, their friendship, their bun with each other.
Speaker 4: Then also figuring out like what kind of player they are,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like they like a real
Speaker 4: grind me extra physical guy, or you know, it's different
Speaker 4: styles of players, and like what gets them going? What
Speaker 4: do they like, Like I said, like my home run
Speaker 4: is finding that sweet spot and just running through somebody's
Speaker 4: face at the point of contact. Like what is their
Speaker 4: favorite blocks or what is their go to strengths or whatever.
Speaker 4: So just figuring out that out and molding with each other.
Speaker 2: And then behind you is the quarterback obviously to a
Speaker 2: tongue of Biloa, and I remember asking him at a
Speaker 2: press conference about you last year, and his answer was
Speaker 2: something to the effect if I hope Bruce here for
Speaker 2: a long long time, and so maybe you think about
Speaker 2: like the bomb between the center and the quarterback. How
Speaker 2: would you kind of pivot that question and have me
Speaker 2: ask you about Tua, like, what was it about two
Speaker 2: of that you really enjoyed playing with him?
Speaker 3: Uh? I feel like we just we real assimily.
Speaker 4: You know, he got that dog and him like he
Speaker 4: sensed that same dog for me, and we just got
Speaker 4: the attitude bad We both got some personality too. It's
Speaker 4: like two goofy guys, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 4: we about business and so I just love that bat
Speaker 4: my guy. He a good dude, good heart, good head
Speaker 4: on the shoulders, and he's got a good mentality about
Speaker 4: how he go a bad things.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's a common theme across the entire roster.
Speaker 2: It's like guys that can have a good time and
Speaker 2: be personable but also no one to lock in. You
Speaker 2: feel that same thing, Yeah, yeah, I do. It seems
Speaker 2: a track across the entire thing. All right, So one
Speaker 2: more question for me, get you out of here. We've
Speaker 2: talked a lot of football, but this is your first
Speaker 2: like full year in Miami, right, is there something that
Speaker 2: you haven't done yet, like as a tourist or have
Speaker 2: the family come down, Like what's something about South Florida
Speaker 2: that you want to do that you haven't done yet.
Speaker 1: That's why I was gonna see it.
Speaker 4: For example, perfect and I need to see an alligator.
Speaker 1: Yeah you haven't seen one yet. No, you do have
Speaker 1: to go out there.
Speaker 2: Like I thought when I moved here, they were just
Speaker 2: gonna be like on my doorstep or not, like you
Speaker 2: gotta go find them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I wear back like the house I
Speaker 4: got out here, like it's right, buy some water. And
Speaker 4: so I was like, that's why I was thinking like that,
Speaker 4: Like alligator would be not to watch any time today.
Speaker 4: I didn't seen too many videos on Instagram like alligator.
Speaker 4: Is that people patty your door trying to open their
Speaker 4: doors and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're scared of youtubet.
Speaker 3: I don't want no problem with.
Speaker 1: No me neither Brew. New Dolphins and that great stuff. Man,
Speaker 1: appreciate you.
Speaker 2: I talked to like seven consecutive rookies before Brew came in.
Speaker 2: So when I said new Dolphin Center, that was just
Speaker 2: a slip of the tongue.
Speaker 1: There, and I'm not going to.
Speaker 2: Take it out because it's so close together, but I
Speaker 2: just want to explain it to you guys. Let's go
Speaker 2: ahead and take a break right there, come back. I
Speaker 2: want to our longest segment of this show, the AFC
Speaker 2: West previous taking a look at the Chiefs, Chargers, Broncos,
Speaker 2: and Raids. That's next Draft Time Podcast, brought to you
Speaker 2: by AutoNation. You got to lead off these sixteen interviews.
Speaker 2: We had this for this summer with Aaron Brewer, because
Speaker 2: how much of a gem is he?
Speaker 1: Right there?
Speaker 2: All right, let's go ahead and pivot now to the
Speaker 2: NFL preview portion of the Draft Time podcast the Kansas
Speaker 2: City Chiefs.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I do this to really help myself just get up
Speaker 2: to date on the rest of the league, and it
Speaker 2: helps me for the rest of the season as well.
Speaker 1: So I hope you guys enjoy these.
Speaker 2: Let me know if you do or do not in
Speaker 2: the comments on social and we can adjust from there.
Speaker 1: But I do like doing these for the podcast's sake as.
Speaker 2: Well as my own knowledge, and I've always liked when
Speaker 2: other podcasts do entire league previews. So that's what I'm
Speaker 2: doing here, and we kick it off with the AFC
Speaker 2: West and the KC Chiefs, who are in the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl every damn year and the changes and the personnel
Speaker 2: changes for them. One of the real cheat codes in
Speaker 2: the league in recent years is the Chiefs ability to
Speaker 2: maintain their coaching continuity. Chris Jones said it best last year.
Speaker 2: As long as the league keeps letting us keep Steve Spagnolo,
Speaker 2: we're gonna keep coming back here. And to a degree
Speaker 2: I agree, the quarterback and head coach certainly helps a
Speaker 2: little bit there too. Matt Nagy in his second year
Speaker 2: of his second stint in KC, and they're about to
Speaker 2: have the most dangerous offense they've had, in my opinion
Speaker 2: since Tyreek Hill, the days of Tyreek Hill. They'll have
Speaker 2: Hollywood Brown from week one. They get Rashi Rice back
Speaker 2: this year, if you're worthy in year two, Travis Kelcey,
Speaker 2: Isaiah Pacheco, Noah Gray. That's the incumbents. I love the
Speaker 2: addition of Elijah Mitchell. I think he offers them something
Speaker 2: different that they didn't have last year at that running
Speaker 2: back position in terms of the outside zone prowess that
Speaker 2: he features a player that I thought might draw some
Speaker 2: interest from the Dolphins for that reason, the big changes
Speaker 2: come up front on the offensive line, as Joe Toney
Speaker 2: is out and so is DJ Humphries in his first
Speaker 2: round pick, Josh Simmons, and a competition between last year
Speaker 2: a second rounder in Kingsley, Sua Mattia, and Mike Caliendo
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl starter there well as others. Frankly, I
Speaker 2: had Simmons as a top five player in the draft,
Speaker 2: but he tore his ACL in October, so he fell
Speaker 2: down the.
Speaker 1: Board a little bit there.
Speaker 2: But that's been the calling card of these Chiefs teams,
Speaker 2: the ability to pivot on the offensive line throughout the
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes era. They've gone from Orlando Brown to Donovan Smith,
Speaker 2: the DJ Humphries. They tried the second rounder in Sue
Speaker 2: Mattia last year and that did not go well, and
Speaker 2: a lot of those moves didn't go well. Jawan Taylor's
Speaker 2: one of the guys they brought in as well, and
Speaker 2: he's had a pretty up and down career there with them.
Speaker 2: But this is the first time they'll make a change
Speaker 2: at guard with Creed Humphrey and Trey Smith both back,
Speaker 2: and that's probably the best center right guard combination in
Speaker 2: the NFL. But now there's a bit of an unknown
Speaker 2: at left guard for the first time. They signed Tooney,
Speaker 2: which was the move they made in reaction to losing
Speaker 2: their first Super Bowl a few years back to Tom
Speaker 2: Brady and the Buccaneers, and he was even one of
Speaker 2: the tackle options last year after injuries decimated that group.
Speaker 2: It happens to every team guys offensive line health and
Speaker 2: attrition is tough to keep up with. On defense, they
Speaker 2: lost justin read Derek Nodty and really the only notable
Speaker 2: losses there. The only name acquisition on this side of
Speaker 2: the ball was former charger of Christian Fulton. They did
Speaker 2: replace Natty with a second round pick in Omar Norman Lott,
Speaker 2: the Tennessee defensive tackle. On the film, their calling card
Speaker 2: is Mahomes Magic, which is constrained to creativity on highlights,
Speaker 2: but make no mistake about it, the calling card of
Speaker 2: this offense is the mastery of angles, matchups, leverage the
Speaker 2: indicators from a quarterback and head coach who are completely
Speaker 2: in tune with one another, and two of the best
Speaker 2: of all time at their positions already for Mahomes add
Speaker 2: the ultimate feel. I put air quotes around that tight
Speaker 2: end and now a handful of explosive wide receivers with
Speaker 2: a run game that I think can play on the
Speaker 2: edges but also be transitionable into a power football team
Speaker 2: down the stretch. We saw that in the playoffs a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago. It's an offense that really can
Speaker 2: adapt to all situations, and that's why they're so damn
Speaker 2: good every single January, and Mahomes is a freaking dog.
Speaker 2: The return of Rice unlocks so much for the offense.
Speaker 2: They can give you pre snap indicators and shift it
Speaker 2: because of all the motions and speed and threats to
Speaker 2: every blade of grass. All these guys can play multiple positions,
Speaker 2: and the way that Travis Kelcey feels out soft spots,
Speaker 2: Rashi Rice is just a more explosive and faster version
Speaker 2: of that in my opinion. Obviously not as good as
Speaker 2: Kelsey in that regard, because that's what made Kelsey a
Speaker 2: top two or three all time tight end. Defensively, it's
Speaker 2: all about fire zones, elite coaching and talent on the
Speaker 2: back end that plays on a string together, and a
Speaker 2: front that has unblockable interior presence, a mix of outside
Speaker 2: pressure players and some flexible second second level players. I
Speaker 2: should say frankly, I think they messed up choosing Nick
Speaker 2: Bolton over Willie Gay for the Miami Dolphins now the
Speaker 2: Saints last year. But Leo Chanelle has been a nice
Speaker 2: piece for them, and I will take my l finally
Speaker 2: here on Chanelle over Tindall. I thought that was an
Speaker 2: interesting move that we could be looking back on in
Speaker 2: a few years, and that certainly has worked out for
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, not so much for the Dolphins here so
Speaker 2: far chanining Tendall, but you know, Trent McDuffie one of
Speaker 2: the best slot players in the game, if not the best.
Speaker 2: I think Jayden Hicks, their safety, is going to blossom
Speaker 2: into a star this year. Go Koog's, Chris Jones, George
Speaker 2: car Loftis, Drew Twank Well, they're loaded, man, They're gonna
Speaker 2: be right back where they were again last year. This
Speaker 2: is like McDonald's. If you're talking about a question here,
Speaker 2: this is the question portion of the team. This is
Speaker 2: like McDonald's trying to find out how they can reduce
Speaker 2: their margins. Like if we have to complain, it's about
Speaker 2: the explosives haven't been there for the last couple of years,
Speaker 2: and they become a ball control offense.
Speaker 1: But they've approached that and tact it in the offseason.
Speaker 2: It's also akin to like complaining about the ice cream
Speaker 2: machine breaking down to McDonald's. Who goes to McDonald's for
Speaker 2: ice cream? I don't know if people still do that,
Speaker 2: but you've still got the burgers and fries and happy
Speaker 2: meals that make everyone happy. There the miscellaneous factors here.
Speaker 2: I've got no worries about this football team. I don't
Speaker 2: feel bad for their fans. I would ever say that,
Speaker 2: but I kind of feel like their games don't matter
Speaker 2: until the division round. They're the new Patriots that way.
Speaker 2: The only thing I could even put here is that
Speaker 2: an injury to the quarterback, which is true for every
Speaker 2: team in the NFL coaching roster veteran presents continuity stars everywhere.
Speaker 2: Tell me why we shouldn't pick this team to go
Speaker 2: back to the Super Bowl again. Tell me why the
Speaker 2: Arrowhead invitation is going to take place anywhere outside of
Speaker 2: Arrowhead for the AFC Championship game. They have a first
Speaker 2: play schedule, but they have always had that. The Chargers, Eagles, Ravens, Lions,
Speaker 2: Commanders bills on the docket within the first nine games.
Speaker 2: But they're going to win half of those because they
Speaker 2: always do. They beat the other teams, and they finished
Speaker 2: like a seven game winning streak. They're going to be
Speaker 2: thirteen and four going into the playoffs again, and the
Speaker 2: trapdoor scenario. Perhaps the offensive line changes don't click, Maybe
Speaker 2: they lose one of those guys and Humphrey and Smith
Speaker 2: and have to kind of scramble again from the start.
Speaker 2: That's kind of the only way I see it. But
Speaker 2: even then you still got Patrick Mahomes and he'll make
Speaker 2: it work. The conclusion is this is the best team
Speaker 2: in football, well.
Speaker 1: In the conference.
Speaker 2: The Eagles kind of cracked that code last year, and
Speaker 2: I think it's going against the grain to pick anybody else,
Speaker 2: but a repeat matchup here and I will go against
Speaker 2: that grain. But that's for the September podcast when we
Speaker 2: predict all of this stuff. The LA Chargers their changes
Speaker 2: on personnel from a personnel perspective, coaching continuity a second
Speaker 2: year in a massively overhauled system, both on offense and defense.
Speaker 2: They play wandyball right, a drive that ends and a
Speaker 2: kick is the goal, which is a philosophy that you
Speaker 2: can debate about whether or not it's a good one.
Speaker 2: Jesse Mintter's defense was no joke in year one, and
Speaker 2: to me, that's the calling card of the football team.
Speaker 2: I think their first round pick was the biggest addition
Speaker 2: they made in terms of how they want to play.
Speaker 2: They were best when JK. Dobbins was rolling last year
Speaker 2: and will the rookie match what he was doing, because
Speaker 2: when he got hurt and he exits now to Denver,
Speaker 2: which is the one of their biggest rivals, and they
Speaker 2: use a first round pick on Omari and Hampton. Like,
Speaker 2: I'm no fantasy expert, but if I learned anything from
Speaker 2: watching John Harbaugh coach football since twenty ten at Stanford,
Speaker 2: like Hampton's going to get approximately nine hundred carries. Like
Speaker 2: they also added Naji Harris to the backfield, but I
Speaker 2: think that the juice in his game has kind of
Speaker 2: gone by the wayside. And to rely upon Hampton in
Speaker 2: a spot where I felt you maybe could have gone
Speaker 2: after some of the pass catchers that Herbert could use
Speaker 2: in that first round, It's going to be a thing
Speaker 2: that's debated about for a while. I have my thoughts
Speaker 2: on it, but we'll find out what happens come September.
Speaker 2: The surprise of the offseason to me is just that
Speaker 2: for the entire NFL. The Chargers lack of attention to
Speaker 2: the wide receiver room. They went back and brought back
Speaker 2: Mike Williams, who just hasn't looked the same for a
Speaker 2: couple of years now. They draft Trey Harris in the
Speaker 2: second round. Some folks like his game. I think separation
Speaker 2: skills is the biggest thing for receiver and he doesn't
Speaker 2: do that at a high level, at least not yet.
Speaker 2: And I'll repeat this, no team tells you who they
Speaker 2: want to be more than the LA Chargers. All of
Speaker 2: the receivers are above the rim guys except for the
Speaker 2: best player on the offense in Lad McConkie. But they
Speaker 2: want to run the ball fifty five percent of the
Speaker 2: time and play great defense. More changes on the offense here.
Speaker 2: Tyler Conklin is there. Makai Becton is a great signing
Speaker 2: for them. Andre James two DeShawn Hand they get him.
Speaker 2: Tony Jefferson is a good piece to bring to the
Speaker 2: back end of that defense. They lose Josh Palmer, Hayden Hurst,
Speaker 2: Joey Bosa, a Sante, Samuel Junior, Morgan, Fox, Poona Ford,
Speaker 2: Christian Fulton. So really more out than incoming and I
Speaker 2: struggle to see where they made big upgrades on this
Speaker 2: roster just on the paper perspective from the film. Their
Speaker 2: calling card is ground and pound. Half their snaps they
Speaker 2: come out and eleven personnel. It's three wide receivers, one back,
Speaker 2: one tight end, and the rest is divvied up across
Speaker 2: two back, two tight They ran a league leading twelve
Speaker 2: percent twenty two personneledge. I means one receiver on the field.
Speaker 2: Lad McConkie the only lad out there, if you will.
Speaker 2: And you guys know my thoughts on Justin Herbert. Good player,
Speaker 2: and this is not anything to his fault, but I
Speaker 2: think he is one of the most overrated players I've
Speaker 2: ever seen.
Speaker 1: Cover John because very.
Speaker 2: Good, but he's he just hasn't proven that he's in
Speaker 2: that next tier of quarterbacks. But he's definitely a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 2: And I have such an issue with the conflicting nature
Speaker 2: of the way this team is built, Like I can't
Speaker 2: fath them spending a quarter of a billion dollars in
Speaker 2: a quarterback to reduce your offense into this like rubble
Speaker 2: creating three yards in a cloud of dust approach, and
Speaker 2: that's what they were last year. You could draft a
Speaker 2: quarterback in the first round like bow Knickson, have him
Speaker 2: do that for you. And there was more put on
Speaker 2: bow Nix's shoulders last year than what Justin Herbert was
Speaker 2: and you could do it.
Speaker 1: I had won fiftieth of the cost.
Speaker 2: So maybe I'm putting my foot my mouth there, but
Speaker 2: I just think it's conflicting by nature. They run gap
Speaker 2: power football, a lot of vertical options designed to create
Speaker 2: these leverage advantages and give Herbert see it and rip
Speaker 2: it options because he's not an anticipatory thrower.
Speaker 1: It's not his game.
Speaker 2: This is probably one of the least timing based offenses
Speaker 2: in the entire league, and they show you that by
Speaker 2: the aforementioned offseason changes. If you want to beat the Chargers,
Speaker 2: you better be ready to play from base to defeat
Speaker 2: the run, and then play physical on the perimeter and
Speaker 2: challenge the many contested catch throws they rely upon. Outside
Speaker 2: of mconkie, who I would have after seeing what McConkie
Speaker 2: did last year.
Speaker 1: I would have gone after two or three more of
Speaker 1: those guys. But that's just me.
Speaker 2: I'm just a podcaster. I think the defense is the
Speaker 2: calling card of this team. Aggressive blitzing. I found a
Speaker 2: great breakdown that spoke to the modularity concept they subscribe to,
Speaker 2: which is kind of what coach Weaver does, where every
Speaker 2: front can be paired with every coverage and every blitz
Speaker 2: can be called from the same combinations and it kind
Speaker 2: of reduces it down to being simpler for us but
Speaker 2: harder for the opposing offense. Is the way they approach it.
Speaker 2: And if it sounds like we've defense well Jesse Minter
Speaker 2: also coached under Mike McDonald, who coached Weaver, coached under
Speaker 2: it is different though it's fewer fronts, pressure packages, slimmed
Speaker 2: down and streamlined, but that becomes complex because of how
Speaker 2: those fronts compared with every coverage, and you don't have
Speaker 2: to reduce the amount of coverages you have based upon
Speaker 2: your fronts. And this is where I think the Chargers
Speaker 2: stand to gain the most ground. Second year of the
Speaker 2: system stands let them take off in that way, especially
Speaker 2: with the number of studs they have on that side
Speaker 2: of the ball. Dayon Henley Go Koug's, Khalil Mack, Tuley,
Speaker 2: Tuya Poloto, Derwin, James, Elijah Molden, the Lowhi Gilman, Tony
Speaker 2: Jefferson who played under McDonald and Baltimore I like that
Speaker 2: side of the ball a lot. My question here is
Speaker 2: does the offensive approach work. I mean, it did to
Speaker 2: the tune of eleven and six last year, But I
Speaker 2: do kind of find it interesting, I'll say funny, interesting
Speaker 2: that they avoid any of these allegations we see against
Speaker 2: the Dolphins. The only beat quality teams, right, because the
Speaker 2: team that they beat last year that was a quality
Speaker 2: team was the Broncos.
Speaker 1: And you guys know how I felt about that Denver
Speaker 1: team all year.
Speaker 2: I thought they were, like the Chargers, kind of propped
Speaker 2: up by the fact that the AFC West played the
Speaker 2: NFC South last year and a down year in the
Speaker 2: AFC North, and they both had third and fourth place schedules.
Speaker 2: They beat the four win Raiders twice, the five win
Speaker 2: Panthers before Bryce Young's benching, the five wins Saints with
Speaker 2: Spencer Ratler, the three win Titans, the eight win Falcons,
Speaker 2: and we've documented that game, right The Falcons had four
Speaker 2: turnovers in the red zone that game, and the Chargers
Speaker 2: won that game by four points. The four win Patriots.
Speaker 2: Their best win was against the Bengals, but the Bengals
Speaker 2: were four and seven at the conclusion of that game.
Speaker 2: They had a loss of the Cardinals when they were
Speaker 2: playing some of their best ball. They lost to the Steelers.
Speaker 2: They lost to Tampa Bay by twenty three, and that's
Speaker 2: a team that has so many offensive weapons, you know,
Speaker 2: a loaded group on that side. I don't think you
Speaker 2: can compete with that type of approach with your approach
Speaker 2: you have. I think this Chargers approach is really good
Speaker 2: at solidifying wins against teams that don't have the talent
Speaker 2: you do. But when you have to go up in talent,
Speaker 2: I think it's the same complex that you face trying
Speaker 2: to win against that. So that's the biggest question I
Speaker 2: have for them. The miscellaneous factors. The schedule will on
Speaker 2: paper be much tougher this year. They lose that home
Speaker 2: game to the Chiefs, and that's that's pretty brutal to
Speaker 2: go to Brazil for that home game against division rival.
Speaker 2: Then they come back for a road game after that,
Speaker 2: which usually you get that game at home after that.
Speaker 2: Then they have to go home game in game three.
Speaker 2: Then week four they're on the road back to New York,
Speaker 2: and then they come back home for a game Week five, and.
Speaker 1: Then in week six they're down here.
Speaker 2: So they're traveling all over the Globe those first six
Speaker 2: weeks Brazil, Vegas home, East Coast home, Miami, like brutal start.
Speaker 2: After the bye week, they get the Eagles, the Chiefs,
Speaker 2: the Texans, and then they're in Denver. I think this
Speaker 2: is the year you really find out what this team
Speaker 2: is made of. Their trappdoor scenario. They had the quarterback
Speaker 2: injury two years ago, but they were losing games before
Speaker 2: Herbert went out that year, so you can kind of
Speaker 2: I mean, if it lose Herbert, it's gonna hurt a lot.
Speaker 1: Obviously.
Speaker 2: I think the second year and a follow up for
Speaker 2: a new system can be a difficult kind of the
Speaker 2: way it was for Esperano and Gaze down here in Miami.
Speaker 2: I think the test of a harder schedule and a
Speaker 2: full year of tape could make them have sort of
Speaker 2: a reinvention necessity this early on the season. Especially with
Speaker 2: that schedule and how it stacks up. This is a
Speaker 2: tough team to peg for my conclusion here, to me,
Speaker 2: I don't think they got better on paper. To me,
Speaker 2: they focus on things that help you beat bad teams
Speaker 2: and doesn't give you a real fighting chance against the
Speaker 2: superior teams. They're well coached, they play good defense, and
Speaker 2: they know who they are. My questions would be, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a great you know, a great stack of wins
Speaker 2: they got against those aforementioned quarterbacks like Deshaun Watson, Mason,
Speaker 2: Rudolph Kirk, Cousins, Aidan O'Connell. But this year they get
Speaker 2: Mahomes twice, they get Knicks twice, they get Gino twice,
Speaker 2: they get Tua Daniels, Rogers, cam Ward, Jalen Hurts, C. J.
Speaker 1: Stroud.
Speaker 2: I am fascinated this team and leaning towards them being
Speaker 2: outside the playoffs, but again we'll cross that bridge come September.
Speaker 2: The Denver Broncos personnel changes. It's a big year for
Speaker 2: the Broncos and a great example of how you really
Speaker 2: don't know anything in the NFL. Right, that was a
Speaker 2: team that was supposed to be doomed by the mistake
Speaker 2: that was the Russell Wilson trade and contract, and just
Speaker 2: one year later they're in the playoffs with a promising
Speaker 2: rookie quarterback. The challenge now is taking that next step
Speaker 2: against what figures to be a much tougher schedule. Their offseason,
Speaker 2: as it usually does, tells you what they've felt they
Speaker 2: had to get better at They were linked to Colston
Speaker 2: Lovelin all throughout the draft process, but they did bring
Speaker 2: in Evan Ingram who has a similar style of game,
Speaker 2: and like the Chargers, they got bigger at the pass
Speaker 2: catcher options.
Speaker 1: More on that in a moment. They also land JK. Dobbins,
Speaker 1: who I.
Speaker 2: Just love a week or two ago, and he gives
Speaker 2: a huge boost of the running game which was really
Speaker 2: lacking parts besides rookie RJ. Harvey before that. Outside of that,
Speaker 2: it was mostly moves on defense Drake Greenlaw tellanoa Hufongo
Speaker 2: with the two biggest moves. They go Jade Barron in
Speaker 2: the first round, then r J. Harvey and Pat Bryant
Speaker 2: from Illinois in the second and third round. The departures
Speaker 2: not really a lot of notables here. They lose Cody
Speaker 2: Barton that was the big contract that got signed elsewhere,
Speaker 2: but outside of that they're all back. The coaching continuity
Speaker 2: in the division here is rare because our third straight
Speaker 2: team has the exact same head coach OC and DC
Speaker 2: with Sean Payton, Joel Lombardi, and Vance Joseph On film,
Speaker 2: the calling card is the West Coast style offense. It
Speaker 2: exemplifies all the experience that Bodnicks gathered in college playing
Speaker 2: was It six years there at Auburn and oregan and
Speaker 2: his growth is really something that should be studied because
Speaker 2: after his Auburn career, I don't think he was a
Speaker 2: draftable quarterback. Then he shines to Organ goes was it
Speaker 2: eleventh overall, tenth overall and plays really well as a rookie,
Speaker 2: pairing that processing and decision making with some nice creativity
Speaker 2: off script. But like all players, there's plenty of room
Speaker 2: to grow there. They do a great job to exploiting
Speaker 2: the areas of the defense that are willing to give
Speaker 2: up playing that short passing game with a good rhythm,
Speaker 2: some West Coast principles that kind of stretch you horizontally,
Speaker 2: and they did this with almost no semblance of a
Speaker 2: running game. Between the Dobbins addition and the growth of
Speaker 2: an offensive line that has a lot of continent in
Speaker 2: the exact same five starters and same system. If bowenex
Speaker 2: takes another step, they could have a pretty damn good offense.
Speaker 2: I love Marvin Mims, Courtland Sutton finally stopped having bad
Speaker 2: injury luck last year. Troy Flanklin sort of a go
Speaker 2: route merchant and I think Evan Ingram is the big
Speaker 2: slot that can really help take this passing game to
Speaker 2: the next level, especially in a West Coast style offense.
Speaker 2: Do they see him as Jimmy Graham type. I think
Speaker 2: that's kind of the vision there. And Vance Joseph is
Speaker 2: a well traveled DC who has a deep rollodex of
Speaker 2: calls and blitzes that he is willing to call at
Speaker 2: any point, any game, any down, distance, whatever it is,
Speaker 2: he can go after it. And it's fun to watch,
Speaker 2: especially with their additions on that side of the football.
Speaker 2: Fourteen of the fifteen highest snap takers on that side
Speaker 2: of the ball are back and they add Baron and
Speaker 2: Hufonga to Sertan and Riley Moss with Brandon Jones, it's
Speaker 2: a nice secondary man they extend Jonathan Cooper and I
Speaker 2: bet you Zach Allen is the player that not everybody
Speaker 2: on this pod has heard of. He is a Zach
Speaker 2: sealer of sorts who plays a little more outside the
Speaker 2: Dre Greenlaw audition. John Franklin Myers, Nick Bonito Stefense is nice, dude.
Speaker 2: They might even have too many guys in that back seven,
Speaker 2: because I don't see starting spots for guys like Ja
Speaker 2: Kwan McMillan, who was a good slot for them last year.
Speaker 2: Chris Abrams trained can play some ball. Nick Bonnido's a
Speaker 2: backup too. They have really good depth on that defense.
Speaker 2: The question is, I think the second year leap that
Speaker 2: you expected to make after a surprising first year is
Speaker 2: one of the toughest things to accomplish in this sport.
Speaker 2: I think it's fair to look at the receiver corps
Speaker 2: and ask the question. Sutton, Ingram, and Dobbins have all
Speaker 2: missed a ton of games, and an injury to any
Speaker 2: of them makes their respective group super thin, super quick.
Speaker 2: I'm also not all the way there on Knicks yet.
Speaker 2: He made me wrong that first year, for sure, but
Speaker 2: there's still a lot of bad tape to pour through there,
Speaker 2: which he's a rookie so obviously, but I don't think
Speaker 2: there's a lot more of a ceiling to stretch to.
Speaker 2: I think he's kind of maxed his talents based upon
Speaker 2: his age coming into the league and what you saw
Speaker 2: from Oregon to now and the scheme I thought protected
Speaker 2: him in a big way, like twenty nine touchdowns and
Speaker 2: twelve picks and only a ninety three pass rating. It's
Speaker 2: because they their whole game was short. It was a
Speaker 2: six point seven to YPA with a high passing figure there.
Speaker 2: And as much as I love their defensive personnel, it's
Speaker 2: so hard to have back to back dominant seasons on defense.
Speaker 2: The miscellaneous factors I talked about the schedule. This schedule
Speaker 2: ends with Texans, Raiders, Chiefs, Commanders, Raiders, Packers, Jags, Chiefs, Chargers.
Speaker 2: Six of the nine are playoff teams. Two of those
Speaker 2: teams are the Raiders, who are not a pushover anymore.
Speaker 2: I'd be surprised when they get back there their trapdoor scenario.
Speaker 2: The leaders of all the skill groups have missed double
Speaker 2: digit games over the last two seasons each. If the
Speaker 2: rising quarterback has any type of regression with how they've
Speaker 2: struggled to run the football, games could become a slog
Speaker 2: and I can wear a defense down, especially in the
Speaker 2: Mile High City. Remember this is the second where we nitpicks,
Speaker 2: so we're gonna get critical here. My conclusion is, I
Speaker 2: think the Broncos are a lot like the Chargers. There's
Speaker 2: some proof of concept, but I think we need to
Speaker 2: see more before I go all in on both those teams.
Speaker 2: I think the schedules put got those teams in last year.
Speaker 2: I think the Broncos got better. I think the Chargers
Speaker 2: did not get better. So I think I like Denver Moore,
Speaker 2: but I kind of have them both in the same
Speaker 2: vein there. And that brings us to our final team
Speaker 2: here in the AFC West, he Las Faga Raiders. The
Speaker 2: changes personnel wise, a team with some changes in the
Speaker 2: coaching staff for the first time here. I cannot wait
Speaker 2: to see what Pete Carroll looks like and what he's
Speaker 2: got a piss leave here in his first year. Bringing
Speaker 2: back Antonio Pierce last year I thought was always not
Speaker 2: a great decision. I think having a qualified coaching staff
Speaker 2: could actually make a big difference for the Raiders here.
Speaker 2: They put together an awesome staff, and part of that
Speaker 2: was retaining the defensive side of the ball with Patrick
Speaker 2: Graham and a lot of the coaches on that side
Speaker 2: of the ball who have done a really good job
Speaker 2: the last couple of years, and bringing in Chip Kelly
Speaker 2: to coach the offense. They spent the sixth pick of
Speaker 2: the draft on the best running back to come out
Speaker 2: since Bijon perhaps Sakwan. They bring back Geno Smith or
Speaker 2: bring in Gino Smith, I should say they signed Raheem.
Speaker 2: I'm rooting for him big time. And they add Ian
Speaker 2: Thomas to a tight end room that has Brock Bauers
Speaker 2: and Michael Mayers, the best tight end room in NFL history.
Speaker 2: Maybe they signed Alex Kapitaz tabilized the interior offensive line.
Speaker 2: And then i'll defense the way they retained the coaching
Speaker 2: that they that they had on the defense, I am
Speaker 2: so impressed by that for Pete Carroll, but they also
Speaker 2: have some new parts in that secondary. Trayvon Merrick left,
Speaker 2: he was a guy that I talked about in the
Speaker 2: podcast a lot. Replaced him by another guy I talked
Speaker 2: about in the podcast, and Jeremy Chim. They lost Nate Hobbs,
Speaker 2: Jack Jones, and Marcus Epps, bringing in Eric Stokes and
Speaker 2: Lonnie Johnson to fill that void. The film here the
Speaker 2: calling card, and you can see that personnel shift kind
Speaker 2: of match with Pete's defensive principles, which I'm curious to
Speaker 2: see how they inject that into what Patrick Graham does, which,
Speaker 2: as you might recall, is lots of tight fronts, big
Speaker 2: bodies up front, trying to stretch your interior gaps to
Speaker 2: create advantageous looks on the outside for a Max Crosby
Speaker 2: back here. It was you know, they wanted to get
Speaker 2: Jadavian Cloune involved. They wanted to get Kyle Vannoi going
Speaker 2: in that role. Then you've got similar presentations that generate
Speaker 2: variations of cover one, Cover three in man, which is
Speaker 2: their three primary coverages. Their front is loaded with Christian Wilkins,
Speaker 2: Adam Butler, Tyree Wilson, with Max Crosby and Malcolm Coons
Speaker 2: off the edge. They did lose Robert Splain inside replaced
Speaker 2: him by a land than Roberts. Frankly, I liked our
Speaker 2: secondary a lot last year. This year I have more
Speaker 2: questions and answers there. Offensively, Gino's ability to play from
Speaker 2: under center and play pass and then rip anticipatory throws
Speaker 2: with velocity down the middle of the field can really
Speaker 2: put your run pass defense in some peril. And with
Speaker 2: Chip Kelly, you know he's going to find ways to
Speaker 2: maximize space and get you know, vertical options in oermedia
Speaker 2: options and check down and really attack every level of
Speaker 2: the field. I cannot wait to see what that looks
Speaker 2: like and how teams have to play that style of
Speaker 2: passing defense against an offense that has a running back
Speaker 2: that can make you pay against light boxes. Those two
Speaker 2: tight ends they've got are ridiculous and lends this self
Speaker 2: to the idea they're probably going to stay in twelve
Speaker 2: personnel most of the game. My question for them is
Speaker 2: how will the defense mesh the two ideologies together, and
Speaker 2: will they pretty much brand new secondary mesh and how
Speaker 2: quickly can they do that? Offensively, I think it's you know,
Speaker 2: we've sort of directed our eggs to the baskets outside
Speaker 2: of wide receiver, and I get if you don't have
Speaker 2: playmakers in that position, I worry about that.
Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers is a good player.
Speaker 2: Side of the tight ends, there's a lot of questions
Speaker 2: about who's going to catch passes there the miscellaneous factors
Speaker 2: we've mentioned the schedule for everybody in this division, much
Speaker 2: harder for all four teams, but something else. They've got
Speaker 2: home games against the Bears, Cowboys, Browns, Giants, and then
Speaker 2: obviously the divisional games against Denver and Case. Those are
Speaker 2: fan bases that travel really well, and these teams that
Speaker 2: have these recent moves, the home games become road games
Speaker 2: pretty quickly, and I think Pete Carroll's going to be great.
Speaker 2: But anytime you have a seventy eight year old head
Speaker 2: coach seventy five howl is he that's been out of
Speaker 2: the league for a couple of years, I think it's
Speaker 2: fair to wonder if the fastball is still there. The
Speaker 2: trapdoor scenario for me is back to the secondary and
Speaker 2: changes and meshing of defensive ideologies. I think the offense
Speaker 2: has a pretty good plan and contingency in place, but
Speaker 2: I think the other side kind of needs to prove that.
Speaker 2: And man, I hate this, but Christian Wilkins hasn't practiced
Speaker 2: this spring since that foot injury last year, and it
Speaker 2: would be a bummer if that foot injury changes his
Speaker 2: career trajectory. It sucks for the Raiders and it sucks
Speaker 2: for Christian, and Christian is a good dude, So that
Speaker 2: makes me sad.
Speaker 1: My conclusion very tough division.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a team that improved its coaching
Speaker 2: staff the way the Raiders did and the quarterback position
Speaker 2: to boot I also think you have to pass and
Speaker 2: defend the pass in this league, and that's where the
Speaker 2: questions are on paper for this team. So in this
Speaker 2: conference with all these quarterbacks, to me, that's tough They're
Speaker 2: gonna be a lot better though, and that brings us
Speaker 2: to division superlatives. My winner the Chiefs, the best quarterback Mahomes,
Speaker 2: the best non quarterback on offense. I'm gonna go Brock Bauers.
Speaker 2: I mean, he was kind of legendary last year. Best
Speaker 2: defensive player. It's real close right here. I'm gonna take
Speaker 2: the hometown kid and Patrick Sartana second, although Chris Jones says,
Speaker 2: what's up? My best coach, Andy Reid, the best rookie,
Speaker 2: it's gotta be Ashon Genty obviously, d and my best
Speaker 2: under the radar stud.
Speaker 1: It's between two players.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna go with Dayon Henley here, the Washington
Speaker 2: State Cougar, a lum and linebacker for the Chargers.
Speaker 1: He is an absolute monster.
Speaker 2: All right, last break right here, come back on the
Speaker 2: other side and talk to Patrick Paul. That's next Draft
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Speaker 2: is Dolphins left tackle Patrick Paul. Pat what's up?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 5: Not much? How you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm doing good?
Speaker 2: It's it's I was just talking to Malik Washington about
Speaker 2: how much changes in three hundred and sixty five days
Speaker 2: for everybody football players myself, anybody in the world. A
Speaker 2: lot can change in one year. Can you take us
Speaker 2: through what the last year has been like for you
Speaker 2: and how it's different from the last time you were
Speaker 2: in that chair versus today.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, definitely a lot of changes in the year.
Speaker 5: Like you said, the first year, you're a lot more nervous.
Speaker 5: Everything's so tense, and it seems like it's the longest
Speaker 5: year of your life coming in into year two. Now
Speaker 5: you have a whole off season in front of you,
Speaker 5: and you have so much free time learning how to
Speaker 5: take care of your body, learning how to operate as
Speaker 5: a pro when you're off and you don't have time
Speaker 5: you know, well, you're not fully busy and committed, like
Speaker 5: dedicated to a football like system. So you had four
Speaker 5: months off, so learning how to take care of your
Speaker 5: body it was great, and just learning my own system.
Speaker 2: So that's a big part of football, right is trying
Speaker 2: to know exactly offensively what you're doing every single snap.
Speaker 2: But then there's the individual portion of it that's I've
Speaker 2: been having this conversation with everyone that's done this so
Speaker 2: far today. It's kind of fascinating because you get your Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, practices.
Speaker 1: It's all situational. It's all like red zone, you know
Speaker 1: all that stuff.
Speaker 2: But then you kind of have to take some time
Speaker 2: yourself to really fine tune in on like your matchup
Speaker 2: that week, or maybe something that you're doing that you
Speaker 2: want to improve upon. When you take a look at
Speaker 2: your technique and fundamentals, like what's Patrick Paul's approach to
Speaker 2: like I got to tighten up this or that, Like
Speaker 2: how do you kind of assess what you see on
Speaker 2: film and then go put to practice When it comes
Speaker 2: to developing your fundamentals, Uh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd say the biggest thing is knowing what the
Speaker 5: correct technique looks like and doing that every day. I'd say,
Speaker 5: practicing those perfect techniques and basically elite techniques and fundamentals.
Speaker 5: Practicing that every single day, and as you keep doing it,
Speaker 5: it becomes a habit and you learn what it's supposed
Speaker 5: to look like, what it's not supposed to look like. Also,
Speaker 5: coaching has a big thing to do with that, also,
Speaker 5: what they want from a player basically doing that exactly
Speaker 5: every single day. And when you practice those elite fundamentals
Speaker 5: and techniques each day each day, you're just going to
Speaker 5: see it resonating into your game. It's not going to
Speaker 5: be all at once, but it's going to slowly start
Speaker 5: pouring in and as it goes on, you're just going
Speaker 5: to notice that it's part of what you're doing and
Speaker 5: you learn from it. You start, you know, creating ways
Speaker 5: of your own, but then just expanding on that. So
Speaker 5: it's a niche day, it's an everyday thing.
Speaker 2: It's kind of the same thing for like podcasting a
Speaker 2: little bit mostly writing. Like if I go back and
Speaker 2: read my writing from five years ago, I'm like, that
Speaker 2: was terrible. That's a bad piece of writing right there,
Speaker 2: And I don't want to sit here in how you say,
Speaker 2: like my football was bad five years ago. But if
Speaker 2: you went back to like your freshman year at Houston
Speaker 2: versus where you are today, fundamental wise, what would your
Speaker 2: reaction be to those two videos side by side?
Speaker 5: Do you think the freshman year one would make me sick?
Speaker 5: Make me want to throw up? So yeah, you're definitely
Speaker 5: at it, like ages like fine wine, as you just
Speaker 5: keep honing in on it and keep getting better at it.
Speaker 2: That's the beauty of the game, though, right The beauty
Speaker 2: of everything we do is the way we grow and
Speaker 2: become just you know, more well rounded people, right, I
Speaker 2: mean do you do you take that same approach and
Speaker 2: things outside of football but in your entire life.
Speaker 5: Really it's everything in life.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: You're just trying to expand on it different ways to
Speaker 5: take care of your body and now have the golf tick.
Speaker 5: So learning about golf, so this is a whole other obstacle.
Speaker 5: But yeah, but yeah, we're taking it a day at
Speaker 5: a time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying that because you come you come in here,
Speaker 2: and we've talked about this off the air, but like
Speaker 2: I just I'm so obsessed with golf. Man, I've put
Speaker 2: so much time into it. And I remember we talked
Speaker 2: about this a while ago. So you're it's it sounds
Speaker 2: like it's ramping up.
Speaker 5: So yeah, definitely got spoiled with the second course that
Speaker 5: I ever went to. This is Shelby.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's uh, that's where every piece of grass
Speaker 2: is like manicured by like la scissors.
Speaker 5: I mean, the best place I've ever been.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's it's beautiful. Man, A good golf course is
Speaker 2: hard to be Did you did you walk or were
Speaker 2: you on a cart? We're on the car okay, So yeah,
Speaker 2: cause when you walk course, you kind of get to
Speaker 2: like feel you kind of feel like you're in tune
Speaker 2: with nature and like the whole course and everything. So
Speaker 2: it's a little bit different that way. But man, the book,
Speaker 2: I feel like it's biting everyone around her these days.
Speaker 5: It's amazing.
Speaker 2: You gotta get a club fitting, right, Yes, did you
Speaker 2: buy club yet?
Speaker 5: No, I'm going, I think by the end of this
Speaker 5: week after you know, I'm locking in for now and
Speaker 5: then we'll get the break.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because i think, uh, let's just let's just
Speaker 2: do the whole thing here. Because you played that one
Speaker 2: time that my buddy saw you.
Speaker 1: You rented clubs, right.
Speaker 5: Yes, so that was the So that was the third
Speaker 5: time my golfer.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, there's no way those clubs like fit.
Speaker 5: Now. People keep telling me like, yeah, you need to
Speaker 5: get fitted. It's going to help what you're swing. You're
Speaker 5: going to see like a drastic change in my game.
Speaker 5: Because I'm six seven thirty seven in charms, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. So yeah, like I'm using these clubs,
Speaker 5: I'm bending down. It just doesn't feel right. So I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go after we're done.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I want to I want to see what
Speaker 2: it looks like when you flush one man, it probably
Speaker 2: goes it probably looks like happy.
Speaker 1: Gilmore like into the mountains.
Speaker 5: You know makes us addicted, So it makes you addicted.
Speaker 5: Is when you get that it's on the money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've had a couple of those.
Speaker 5: I've had a couple of those. Yeah. The first time
Speaker 5: it was the one at Shelby. I birdied once. I
Speaker 5: was like, Okay, yeah, I'm a golfer.
Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 1: He's a sick going just like the rest of us. Man,
Speaker 1: just just enjoy the ride.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this. There's highs, there's lows. It's a
Speaker 2: lot of fun. There's a lot of moments you're like,
Speaker 2: I'm never playing this game again. But it's all fun.
Speaker 2: Lets let's pivot back to football here, because we kind
Speaker 2: of got off the track there, and I do apologize
Speaker 2: my audience. I make so many comparisons to football like
Speaker 2: technique and golf because I think it is kind of applicable, right, Like,
Speaker 2: there's so much that goes into that. But in terms
Speaker 2: of the second year, what excites you the most man
Speaker 2: about coming back and being with this group for a
Speaker 2: second season, whether it's individual, the entire picture, Like, what's
Speaker 2: got you most fired up for twenty twenty five?
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, twenty twenty five. I think it's I'm very
Speaker 5: excited this year to just see what this team's going
Speaker 5: to do. This group. I think we have a really
Speaker 5: croose group this year that has grown with the work
Speaker 5: and we all have the same mentality which every team
Speaker 5: should have, is to win the Super Bowl. But we're
Speaker 5: doing things that I think that are going to be
Speaker 5: able to separate us this year. I'm going into my
Speaker 5: first year as the starter at left tackle, so just
Speaker 5: basically going into this year with the approach to keep
Speaker 5: that position, make it a franchise, and be for the
Speaker 5: rest of my career. That's the goal. And it all
Speaker 5: starts when you're getting into this role.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I can't wait to watch it.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: And going back to last year, You've talked so much
Speaker 2: about how much Taran meant to you in terms of
Speaker 2: his tutelage. But I guess I'm curious to ask like
Speaker 2: all those because he's talked about, you know, the way
Speaker 2: he had to get himself ready for a game at
Speaker 2: this stage of his career was tough, and so in
Speaker 2: lieu of that, you were able to get a lot
Speaker 2: of practice reps, but you also got something like three
Speaker 2: hundred and forty snaps in at left tackle or either
Speaker 2: tackle spot this year.
Speaker 1: What did you take from all that?
Speaker 2: How valuable do you think that was in comparison to
Speaker 2: if you didn't get all that time to practice and
Speaker 2: play games?
Speaker 5: That's the true. Those reps are valuable, very very valuable,
Speaker 5: especially you know, getting your first start going at it
Speaker 5: and being mivable to prepare that week and you know,
Speaker 5: get what it feels like to go through a game week.
Speaker 5: It was good, not just having it this year, but
Speaker 5: having it last year, being able to work off of that.
Speaker 5: Also learning how to just go on the fly sometimes
Speaker 5: to get in there, really testing the mental because you
Speaker 5: have to be always locked in every single game. Last
Speaker 5: I was locked in like I was playing. So those
Speaker 5: were all invaluable reps and just knowing how to prepare.
Speaker 5: So I'm really excited for this year, really excited.
Speaker 2: There there are ten things I could ask you about.
Speaker 2: I'll get you out here because we're already get long
Speaker 2: at the time here, But there's two things I was
Speaker 2: thinking about. Number One, last time we did this, you
Speaker 2: talked about after your football career. You want to be
Speaker 2: the president of your home nation. Yeah, Nigeria and Jerry, Okay,
Speaker 2: is that still an aspiration of.
Speaker 5: Yours that's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's going to happen.
Speaker 2: It's already updates to the whole story. You just just
Speaker 2: leave it at that.
Speaker 5: This is you know, I'm so young right now. I'm
Speaker 5: twenty three. You know, football happy, let football half for
Speaker 5: first in my forties. I'll start umbarking on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I guess that'd be the same answer to
Speaker 2: my next question. Because we had you on the panel
Speaker 2: at Draft night as well as my my radio program there.
Speaker 2: I told you you got some pretty good media shops
Speaker 2: and tea stad get your coach up there as well.
Speaker 5: No, this is from University of Houston. Yeah, we had to.
Speaker 5: We took classes and everything on this stuff.
Speaker 2: Very nice, man, very nice. So that's something you're interested
Speaker 2: interested in too. They kind of go hand and hand.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd pop in and do some stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff. But appreciate your time today, man, best
Speaker 2: of luck this season. I can cannot wait to watch
Speaker 2: you play and we'll see you out there soon.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: Thank you. I appreciate it all.
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