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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly, he is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and uh it's time for the Fantasy

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Speaker 2: Football Focus Matt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And as everybody knows, Matt and I are in the

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Speaker 2: league together, or if you're a regular listener to this show,

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Speaker 2: you know that, and.

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Speaker 3: Several other media members you might know in that league now.

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Speaker 2: That I've been a part of now for thirty two years,

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Speaker 2: I've brought her some other media members and things of

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Speaker 2: that nature. And this is my second season. We had

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Speaker 2: our draft last night. We had our draft last night.

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Speaker 2: I had the seventh pick you traded back from having

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Speaker 2: the two.

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Speaker 3: I pulled the two, I guess randomly, and then someone

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Speaker 3: in the group chat said, I'm at eight. I'm looking

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Speaker 3: to get out, and I'm like, I'd rather be at

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Speaker 3: eight than too, So we swapped. We swapped entire slots.

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Speaker 3: You feel still feel that way after going through the

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Speaker 3: draft sort of, I don't love my team. I know

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Speaker 3: you didn't love your team, you know, initial impressions, but

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Speaker 3: I really didn't want my decision to do. I was

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Speaker 3: leaning towards Bijon just because I wanted a back and

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Speaker 3: I knew at eight I was gonna. I thought that

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't have went to nine. I thought there was

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Speaker 3: eight players I was really happy with. But I also

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Speaker 3: knew what Jamar Chase sitting out, that's probably was going

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Speaker 3: to be number eight. And that's who it is, which

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Speaker 3: a month ago I've been like, that's great. Now I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I hope he plays well.

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Speaker 2: I was picking at seven and I had the choice

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Speaker 2: between Chase and Justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 3: I would have made your same choice, and I.

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Speaker 2: Decided on Jefferson.

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Speaker 3: The only other thing, what if it was two weeks ago,

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Speaker 3: two weeks ago had taken Chase Chase. Yeah, okay, I

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Speaker 3: mean that's what I was thinking all along, and then

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Speaker 3: I changed my mind, And maybe it works out. The

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Speaker 3: Chase plays every game, who knows, but he might not

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Speaker 3: if he misses one. That's enough to practicing yesterday, right,

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Speaker 3: which is what I'm like. I don't think the Bengals

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Speaker 3: are in a budget.

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Speaker 2: Is he gonna play if he plays this week? Is

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Speaker 2: he gonna play one hundred percent of the snaps? Is

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Speaker 2: he gonna play twenty snaps, I don't know, and.

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Speaker 3: Just disgruntled as bad.

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Speaker 2: So basically, yeah, you're going into this thinking, Okay, if

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Speaker 2: I get sixteen games of Chase or in our case,

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Speaker 2: thirteen out of fourteen regular season weeks, is that worth it?

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Speaker 2: Or can I get fourteen games at Jefferson? No, I'll

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Speaker 2: take the fourteen. I would take Jefferson too. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean I can see Chase sitting out one week just

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Speaker 2: to prove a point. In the second round. You did

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Speaker 2: get Devin a Chan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I wanted him the third round.

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Speaker 2: You know, why did you pulled the trigger then?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? And it was a lot of backs were flying

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Speaker 3: off those and I did.

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Speaker 2: That's to go early and often I was.

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Speaker 3: That was why I kind of forced my hand, Like

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Speaker 3: I thought I might get him in the third round.

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure you weren't gonna snipe him right in

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Speaker 3: front of me in the third round. And he was

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Speaker 3: my highest ranked back. But I know that's early. Like

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Speaker 3: that's gonna be my second round yeah, or my third

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Speaker 3: round pick. That's a better value than taking them there. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: as your number one back then number one back and

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Speaker 3: right early I took Drake London. Okay, Now I considered

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Speaker 3: considered Henry Henry Versus Chan was tough.

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Speaker 2: Cooper Cup was another guy that I looked at. There.

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Speaker 3: London was my number one receiver, though that would have

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Speaker 3: been my receiver if I were.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think he's going to blow up this year.

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Speaker 3: I did too, and that was and that wasn't excited

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Speaker 3: which I had no intention of doing. And I'm shocked

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Speaker 3: your third receiver and your second receiver ended up on

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Speaker 3: your team. Just doing MOCKX with you. I didn't think

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Speaker 2: My plan in round three was to take Josh Jacobs

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Speaker 3: Cook, okay, especially the two receivers already on the squad.

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Speaker 2: Jacobs went three picks ahead of my pick. Cook went

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and we're starting to receive was in a

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Speaker 3: but and you end up with the lava up.

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Speaker 2: With personal lava there, you ended up he took Jaylen Waddle.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and I had those three actually London the Lave

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Speaker 3: Waddle really close, and I was happy with with that

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Speaker 2: In my eyes, I think I got three of the

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Speaker 3: Oh, I agree. They were three of my top ten. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I couldn't believe, like in the rankings.

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Speaker 3: And they kept staying up there too. I'm like, something's

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Speaker 2: Like a lave was there, and I'm like, why isn't

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Speaker 2: anybody taking a Lavee. There's some guys that were taking

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Speaker 2: I'm like, is a love did to kill somebody?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, double check here so real quick. It happens

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Speaker 3: every year. But I think there was four or five

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Speaker 3: actually almost one of the reasons I didn't Trakes. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be right here. They already destroy each other.

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Speaker 3: They guys much rather be spaced away from you. But

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Speaker 3: I mean I got it from both directions. In round four,

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Speaker 3: I knew I was going to hear about that today

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Speaker 2: And I had to take a running back there. You

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Speaker 2: can't take another receiver. I'd already had three and I

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Speaker 3: And I thought Jones was a value there. He was

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Speaker 2: Jervonte Williams. Okay, I actually like, I didn't love the pick.

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Speaker 3: But spoiler alert, you took Connor, right, Yeah, I had

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Speaker 3: good value in Connor. Even if he plays a month,

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Speaker 3: through the waiver wire and find I have to you

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Speaker 3: not a terrible position to be weak at in terms

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Speaker 3: I took Connor. You took Mark Andrews. I was kind

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Speaker 3: of surprised by that one. He was just so much

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Speaker 3: ahead everybody else. Yeah, I didn't like the backs, but

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Speaker 3: she passed on Dalton Kincaid in that situation, I know

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Speaker 3: needed a back. I had Andrews is my three McBride

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Speaker 2: I remember you did the same thing in the league

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Speaker 2: last year with Andrew but I was surprised. Then before

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Speaker 2: And then Kyle Pitts went before my next pick, and

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Speaker 3: So I took I ended up taking Jordan take. Then around,

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Speaker 3: I was really happy with That's that's a really strong

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Speaker 2: I took Richardson went, and then Kyler Murray went. Those

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Speaker 2: up taking Jordan Love instead.

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Speaker 3: Did Murray go right before my pick? Yeah? Because he

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Speaker 2: That's just the way it works. Out round seven, you

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Speaker 2: sniped me on that. No, I'm sorry, christ Halleck snipe

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Speaker 2: me on David Montgomery. I was hoping to get him.

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Speaker 3: That was two picks I was. I thought for sure

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Speaker 3: taking Jaleen Warren. You took Jayden Daniels and as your quarterback.

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Speaker 3: That was shut out on quarterbacks. I mean again, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to me. You got again on. You

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Speaker 2: got Jonathan Brooks in round.

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Speaker 3: Eight, which I didn't love, but I figured my backs

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Speaker 2: I ended up taking I didn't like any of the

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Speaker 2: of running backs there, Brian Robinson went where he Moster went.

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Speaker 2: Up Round nine Ezekiel again the run on running backs

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Speaker 2: right ahead of our picks. Chuba Howard went.

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Speaker 3: I was hoping to get Zach Moss in this spot

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Speaker 3: he went, Gus Edwards went, Ezekiel Elliott went.

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Speaker 2: I ended up taking JK. Dobbins. You took Chris Brown.

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Speaker 3: He's I don't love him, you know. I kept moving

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Speaker 3: him ahead of Moss. But that was the area of

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Speaker 3: the draft where I'm like, I got my three starting receivers.

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Speaker 3: At this point, I have a tight end and a

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Speaker 3: just gonna throw darts at running backs and hope one

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Speaker 2: And that's what I did with Dobbins there. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I actually when Gus Edwards went, I'm like ohh, and

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Speaker 3: I don't want Zekul Elliott who just went some of

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Speaker 3: those dudes, right, Yeah, So that actually worked out well

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Speaker 3: for me. But I still didn't have a tight end.

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Speaker 3: And so in round ten, you took Ty Chandler because

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Speaker 3: Okay, you know, yeah that late you we'll see, we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Round eleven, I took Josh Palmer. You took Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: I wanted a decent backup for Daniels, considering, yeah, you

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Speaker 3: need yeah, you gonna have it, and I'm high on Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: There were a lot more quarterbacks in the queue higher.

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Speaker 2: The world might not know he's the one. I kept

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Speaker 3: I was to were really good receivers at that point. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Not for you, but I mean he might be somebody

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Speaker 2: I'd dangle out there for a running back after three

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Speaker 3: I was going to take Darnel Mooney there. I thought

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Speaker 3: have too much investment in a lot of Falcon issues. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Round thirteen, I took Ray Davis. You took your guy

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Speaker 3: Ends were a little soft. Yeah, I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 3: Because I thought it was a fifteen round draft. I

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Speaker 2: Taysom Hill, They're playing the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 3: I and it's a different we're on CBS as opposed

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Speaker 2: He looked at the projected points on ESPN.

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Speaker 2: The points were almost similar to Bowers.

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Speaker 2: It's almost ten points a game. He might be their

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Speaker 3: They should tear They should, They should beat the pants

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Speaker 3: off the Panthers. They have an easy schedule in general. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and they need one more skill guy. Yeah. I don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I figured it was worth a shot.

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Speaker 3: I looked at some other guys that maybe I wanted

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's scary because he could get you a two pointer,

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Speaker 2: Round fifteen, I took the Bengals defense.

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Speaker 3: And you're in total stream mode.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'll be streaming all year long. And they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had one more pick because I got screwed up.

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Speaker 3: And I was shocked at the time that Rico Daldell

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Speaker 2: I was shocked too. I kept looking at that and like,

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Speaker 2: do I want to take another running back here? I

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Speaker 2: really don't need one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just figuring Christian mccaff injury. If that's the thing,

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Speaker 2: And then in round six, team we both took our kickers.

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Speaker 2: No, obviously, both of us will churn. Like that's the

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Speaker 2: is over the seasons. I'll just play these guys all season.

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Speaker 3: No, right, right right.

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Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta make moves.

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Speaker 3: You gotta make moves. And I bet you're considering dangling

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Speaker 2: Yeah, looking here at these streaming schedule this week, since

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it'll be a blowout seventy point game.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not psyched about either one. Even they're both

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Speaker 3: No, I don't like that. High hopes for the Cardinals offense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Patriots Banals we just talked about. Bengals might

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Speaker 3: In most weeks, I would last week last year, I

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Speaker 3: Colts Texans are fine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jaguars Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: Panthers Saints. Saints would be a good streamer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Dolphins a decent streamer, and I don't not big.

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Speaker 2: On their D And no, I don't think that's gonna

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Speaker 3: It's not horrible. Yeah, yeah, it's not horrible. But Giants

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Speaker 2: Broncos Seahawks start the Seahawks defense against the robo Yeah, yeah, good,

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Speaker 2: that's how bad's improved. Cowboys Browns start the Browns at home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I drafted my other league and I'm gonna start him.

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Speaker 3: But it's kind of like me drafting the Chiefs in

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Speaker 2: Uh, Commander's Buccaneers. I almost picked the Buccaneers against the Commanders.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a good move. Yeah yeah, Uh Lions Rams,

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Speaker 3: Maybe the Seahawks of like non Brown Steelers right type defense, yah,

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Speaker 2: That weren't really probably drafted a lot weak ones.

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Speaker 3: Weird though. These schedule makers know who the good teams

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Speaker 2: Let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. That's gonna do it for the

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Speaker 2: Fantasy football focus, Matt, and I'll be back with more.

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Speaker 3: We got some breaking news right after this.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lully. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and we have breaking news. Matt. Yeah, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't happen often on the air live, but he is

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Speaker 2: not break it. Not only are we back, Cam Hayward

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Speaker 2: seasons sing a three year, forty five million dollar contract extension.

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Speaker 3: That seems cheap to me.

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Speaker 2: It's the first I heard the numbers that's the going

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Speaker 3: All right, he's not in a position make me the

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Speaker 3: not that stage of his career. That's what Michael Parsons does, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, there are just in different stages of their career.

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Speaker 3: That's great. I mean I've hinted at it, I've said it,

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Speaker 3: and it's not a concern. It's just I haven't seen

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Speaker 2: They're not great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean you've said for a million years

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Speaker 2: No, if anything, you're gonna they're gonna, you know, mitigate

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Speaker 3: And I could see them drafting a de tackle high

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Speaker 3: all said and done next year, I mean, like, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too. And you know, he wanted to

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Speaker 2: I think he's one of the all time great Steelers

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Speaker 2: me too. And then you know, I think he could

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and Walter Payton man the year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean we all know the off the field stuff too, and.

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Speaker 2: I think sometimes people overlook some of those contributions in

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Speaker 3: I was about to say the exact same thing, and

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Speaker 3: and eight when you need to.

438
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Speaker 2: Have a play, I can draw a direct line of

439
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 2: leadership from Joe Green to Camp.

440
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right right, And that's extremely important, something that's

441
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,359
Speaker 3: rare and most teams don't have.

442
00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,760
Speaker 2: I mean, you just go through the through the guys

443
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,560
Speaker 2: over the years that you know this guy groomed, that

444
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,520
Speaker 2: guy who groomed this guy who groomed that guy who

445
00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,040
Speaker 2: groomed that guy from Joe Green, the Hayward.

446
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,160
Speaker 3: And again maybe like Benton's in the first the next

447
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,560
Speaker 3: maybe he's that guy or the next year's first round

448
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,880
Speaker 3: pick or whatever. Like it's if he's really there three

449
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 3: years and I don't know the details. Is it really a

450
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 3: two year deal? It looks like a three year deal.

451
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 2: Could they get out of it?

452
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 3: I don't know about all that stuff as it just broke.

453
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,199
Speaker 3: But again, fifteen million isn't that much, and it's going

454
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 3: to look less and less as this cap keeps going up,

455
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 3: and there are some young guys that could maybe take

456
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,879
Speaker 3: that mantle from him as the next leader, you know,

457
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,639
Speaker 3: and I look at that and TJ has also taking

458
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 3: that too, you.

459
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,159
Speaker 2: Know, if they kept I don't know. I have to

460
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,400
Speaker 2: look here exactly what his contract was, what his base

461
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,679
Speaker 2: salary was going in for this year, because.

462
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 3: A lot of times you free up space by this

463
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 3: stuff too, what you can roll over the next year,

464
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,439
Speaker 3: or you can do that, or you can use it.

465
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 2: A lot of space if you you know his.

466
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 3: I just think that this is space now that they

467
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 3: can use to go do something else, and that includes

468
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 3: signing Friarmouth, extending you know, whoever else they want to extend.

469
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 3: That was my question, is we pretty much know when

470
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 3: the ball gets kicked off on Sunday, extensions are done. Yeah.

471
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,880
Speaker 3: I mean that's just what this team does. I thought

472
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,440
Speaker 3: if anyone would be different if we can, but I'm

473
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 3: sure this has been the works for a long time.

474
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 3: You think anything else gets done before Sunday? Yeah? You do?

475
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 3: You think they do? Know?

476
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Friarmuth, I would think so. Yeah, I think that

477
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 2: will be next up in line. So his base salary

478
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,959
Speaker 2: this year in twenty twenty four was sixteen million dollars. Okay,

479
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 2: so my guess and this is just a guess.

480
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, is that fresh off the press.

481
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,399
Speaker 2: They took his base salary, knocked it down to the minimum,

482
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 2: and say gave him, let's say it's twenty million dollar

483
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 2: signing bonus, maybe.

484
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 3: Even more, probably lowers though he's going to make the

485
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 3: team next year. Yeah, he's gonna make the team next year.

486
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 3: He's happy he gets more money this year. Somebody just

487
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 3: wrote a check for twenty or twenty five million dollars.

488
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 3: He's real happy, right, and it weekly checks low, but.

489
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 2: It lowers his cap hit from twenty two million dollars

490
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 2: probably down to sixteen.

491
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 3: This is a really everyone winning situation. To me, nobody

492
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 3: wanted them to leave. He didn't want to leave. If

493
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 3: he did, in fact, get a check for twenty plus

494
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 3: million today, it's a pretty nice day.

495
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

496
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he's going to be on the team next.

497
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 2: Year and finish his career at Pittsburgh Steeler.

498
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 3: I think that's set in stone. I can't imagine going

499
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 3: further than that. Yeah, and maybe he retires after this year.

500
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 3: Maybe it was great the next two or three years

501
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 3: and they say, hey, let's add another year on May.

502
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 3: Maybe we Campbell's still playing, Yeah, exactly. Some of those

503
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 3: detackles stayed away slow. Yeah, so I like it. And again,

504
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 3: they have a lot of cap space. They got a

505
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 3: lot of cap space next year, and yeah, this.

506
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 2: Probably freeze up a little bit more. So not a

507
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 2: bad thing. I think, could certainly be in the worst. Yeah,

508
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 2: you know, they could do something with a Jalm Warren

509
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 2: or you know, if they wanted to extend Nausey Harris now,

510
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 2: they could they say, hey, let's let's do another two

511
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 2: years or whatever.

512
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 3: I don't think they'll do a quarterback.

513
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 2: No, I don't see that happening at this point. You

514
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 2: do that after the season. But again, this, you know,

515
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 2: if you freed up more cash for next year and

516
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 2: you can roll some of that over, No, you can

517
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 2: be rolling over things beautiful huge.

518
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 3: That's why that's why Cleveland did what they did last

519
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 3: week with Deshaun Watson, even though that was probably ill

520
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 3: advised because you're they're kicking the can Jack and his

521
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 3: seventy two million dollars for Deshaun Watson. Yeah, but for

522
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,719
Speaker 3: two seasons. Yeah, it was next year. Yeah, because they

523
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 3: had nothing, I mean, they were like negative.

524
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 2: I think somebody else just that too. I think the

525
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 2: Ravens they just redid Roquan Smith contract, so they would

526
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 2: have enough money this year to make moves to get yeah,

527
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 2: to get through the season.

528
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 3: And then you just roll it over. It's not always

529
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 3: to go get Brandon Ayuk or whatever. You know.

530
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they didn't have I mean, they were only

531
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 2: freeing up like six million dollars because they were right

532
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 2: up against the cap.

533
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 3: Okay, and it rolls over. But if they're the trade deadline,

534
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 3: they were to get somebody they.

535
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: Can, Yeah, they'd probably have to do something else.

536
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,239
Speaker 3: But now I like to steal for the Steelers, though,

537
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 3: I think it makes all the sense in the world.

538
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 3: I was actually a little nervous. I'm like, I wonder

539
00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 3: if they're not gonna be any signings between now and

540
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 3: it's getting you know, we're past labor day out.

541
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: I think some of these ones this week, like I would,

542
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 2: I would expect fire mouth. Basically, here's here's the way

543
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 2: it works. They will shut down negotiations the minute they

544
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 2: get on meant the plane leaves for Atlanta. Atlanta, Troy

545
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: Paula Maloho signed his deal the one year at the

546
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 2: at the airport right before they took off, because that's

547
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 2: when that's when once they once the wheels come up,

548
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 2: it's all business. The rest of the season. Nothing the games.

549
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 2: We're not doing anymore to.

550
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 3: Go okay, I mean I doubt cam or friar Mouth

551
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 3: for that matter, is bickering back and forth. This isn't

552
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 3: the Ayuk situation with you know, or the Lamb situation

553
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 3: where they're disrespecting me.

554
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 2: There's not enough.

555
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,239
Speaker 3: It's just more of a timing thing, it really is.

556
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: I think they were they were waiting to see what

557
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 2: happened with Ayuk. Now that's done. You got guys you

558
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 2: want to keep, they want to be here. You make

559
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 2: it happen.

560
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 3: And you've you've talked to the Asians for months. Yeah,

561
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 3: I mean you knew the ballpark. Let's just thought the

562
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:03,719
Speaker 3: eyes and all that stuff.

563
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: Absolutely cool. That's good news. And the reason I know

564
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 2: a lot of people wonder why don't the Steelers negotiate

565
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 2: in season? Right? That goes back to the ninety three season,

566
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 2: the first year of free agency, and that was my

567
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 2: first year covering the team, and I can remember the

568
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 2: Steelers having contract talks during the season with some guys

569
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 2: and Adrian Cooper I.

570
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 3: Say, and these aren't Hall of famers, these aren't Joe

571
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 3: Green and Terry Bradshaw.

572
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 2: And Donald Evans both said at the end of the

573
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: year that they didn't play quite as hard at the

574
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: end of the season because the team broke off contract

575
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: negotiations and get negotiations with them during the season.

576
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 3: Which sounds terrible as a player, but in any walk

577
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 3: of life, there is a human element to it, you

578
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like, I'm not condoning not playing

579
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 3: as hard at the end of your contract, but if

580
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 3: you had been chatting all year with the team and

581
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 3: finally they're like, now we're good, we're out, you know, yeah,

582
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 3: I mean, it'd be a natural letdown. Yeah.

583
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: So it's just a distraction, it really is. And at

584
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 2: that point, you know, Dan Rooney said, you know what,

585
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: We're not going to do that anymore.

586
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 3: M hmm. We're just gonna wan spendy a time between

587
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 3: now opening.

588
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 2: Day, once the season starts, we're done with that stuff.

589
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: Will negotiate once the season's over. We got time. After

590
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: the season's over, we'll get something done. But we're not

591
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 2: going to do it in season because to your point,

592
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: it becomes a distraction.

593
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 3: And once in a while you lose on that. Friar

594
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 3: Moose the best tight end in the league, and we

595
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 3: could have gone him for five million cheaper. But then

596
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 3: it was a good problem. Yeah, you got a great

597
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 3: year out of the player, you know what I mean.

598
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: Like that's good too, which is the situation they may

599
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 2: have with Nauge Harris.

600
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe maybe he is a great year and he's

601
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 3: worth more now than he or then than now.

602
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 2: That's a good problem.

603
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 3: And maybe we won two more games than we shouldn't though,

604
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 3: you know, something along those lines, and use so much

605
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 3: cap space and franchise tags at your disposal to teams

606
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 3: can keep anyone they want. Yeah, I mean ninety nine

607
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 3: percent of the time. Teams can keep anyone they want. Yeah,

608
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 3: I mean assuming unless they're demanding a trade and don't

609
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,959
Speaker 3: want to be their type of thing, you know, and

610
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 3: even then you can control it, right, Yeah. Yeah, Higgins

611
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 3: and Hendrickson wanted out, but we said they said no.

612
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: Auk wanted out until he was in.

613
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 3: It was in thirty millions. Fine, I like this stuff

614
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 3: about Cama. That's good news to start the week.

615
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 2: Speaking of Ayuk, did you see the Brandon or I'm sorry,

616
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 2: uh Breer Albert Breer report. He reported on He said

617
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: the Steelers offer to Ayuk wasn't as much.

618
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 3: That's what he ended up getting just the contract itself.

619
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 2: The contract itself wasn't as much per year as what

620
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: Ayuk ended up getting from San Francisco. He said he

621
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 2: the tax cost a living, the cost of living is

622
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: much cheaper. And he said the Steelers wouldn't do that

623
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: because why they won't pay anybody more than what TJ.

624
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 2: Want was making.

625
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 3: That's another where have we heard that philosophy?

626
00:27:58,720 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 2: Right again?

627
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 3: Right? The organization has philosophies that they believe in that

628
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 3: they've stuck to for years that have worked.

629
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: You're not going to upset the apple cart. You're not

630
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 2: going to go sign Brandon Ayuk for twice as much

631
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 2: money as you just gave Cam Hayward.

632
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and and folks Dale's laid this out many times.

633
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 3: But the reason is you don't bring someone into an

634
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 3: existing strong locker room that's quote worth more than one

635
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 3: of your best guys. You know what I mean, We're

636
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 3: one of the best guys in the league. Yeah, in

637
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 3: the case of what now, TJ. Watt's going to go

638
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 3: Wait a second, you just gave him thirty million. I

639
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 3: went thirty five, and you can just get into that. Yeah,

640
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 3: that's what happened to. Sam Pickings comes up and well,

641
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 3: I want the same contract.

642
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, because everybody it's the NFL league. Everybody

643
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: knows what everybody else makes. And if they don't, they

644
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 2: go on the NFLPA website and look at Okay, it's there.

645
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 3: Hard, it's not hard. Yeah. I think the Niners delt

646
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: with a little bit of that. You come to the

647
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 3: Super Bowl and all these contracts coming out there, and

648
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 3: why does McCaffrey need a bump? Why does Trent Williams

649
00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 3: need a bump?

650
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: Right? Just because they're good, right, and they can't And

651
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 2: then the other guy said, what about me?

652
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 3: You know, so then what do you pay party? Right,

653
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 3: that's gonna be that's their problem. That's their problem, right,

654
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 3: they can deal with it, and it would be different.

655
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Speaker 3: And obviously this isn't the timeline. If you would have

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Speaker 3: trade for Ayuk. He lights it on fire here, he's awesome,

657
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 3: and all those teammates like, I don't want him, to

658
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: give him whatever you want.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's different because he's been there, he's

660
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 2: been a guy that you've gone to battle with. Yeah, yeah,

661
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: as opposed to somebody who's coming in from the outside.

662
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 2: You pay him all that money and everybody goes well.

663
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,479
Speaker 2: I mean, he wasn't even a trading camp with us.

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Speaker 2: You ever heard the story about Joe Namath. Probably Joe

665
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: Namath signed with the Jets. He was the first million

666
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Speaker 2: dollar player in the NFL. Yes, and his teammates resented

667
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: that to a degree.

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00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 3: Because that was coming out of Bama. Yeah, because the

669
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 3: other AFL. Right, first time a billion competition, right, and

670
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 3: everybody wanted Joe because he was Broadway. It wasn't yet

671
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 3: Broadway Joe, he was.

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00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: The veterans on that team gave him a hard time

673
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: early and early in camp because oh, you're the million

674
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Speaker 2: dollar guy.

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00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and poor guy is a rookie in New

676
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 3: York and did well obviously, but that's a tough situation. Yeah,

677
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 3: you need doing it wrong? No, you get me a

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00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 3: million bucks back then? All right, peg it absolutely. Let's

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Speaker 3: get to a break cool after this. We got power rankings,

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Speaker 3: all right, preseason power rankings. We'll get to those right

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Speaker 3: after this. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the drive here

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Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold car Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Matt Eric ed Hoolme has come

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Speaker 2: out on NFL dot Com with his preseason or his

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Speaker 2: regular season the first initial power rankings based off of

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Speaker 2: what he saw in the preseason, and let's take a

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Speaker 2: look at these. At thirty two the Carol of Panthers

694
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 2: holding steady.

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Speaker 3: Does New England compete with that? Oh?

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00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thirty one.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna do mine tonight, and I might put the

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00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 3: Patriots at thirty two. I think they're gonna be bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean Carolina's offense might be better.

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00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. At thirty down a spot the Giants.

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00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 3: Washington would be my next one in that competition.

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00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: At twenty nine down four spots the Raiders. Wow, that's

703
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 2: pretty harsh. That's really harsh. What did they do?

704
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

705
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: That changed four spots for them?

706
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 3: Did you think they were going to trade for Dak

707
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 3: Prescott or something? I mean, like you knew who the

708
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 3: quarterback race was? Yeah? Was there any major injuries. Not really.

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00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 2: No, I don't get that.

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00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: I get a lot of heat from Raider fans, but

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00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 3: that's crazy to be.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think there's at twenty ninth.

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Speaker 3: No. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: At twenty eight, down four spots, the Saints, Wow, I

715
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: don't feel the other way about them.

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00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 3: I feel think they're about league average. Yeah, I don't

717
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 3: think they're one of the bottom dwellers. Twenty seven up

718
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: to three spots the Broncos. Denver I think is a

719
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 3: bottom dweller. Yeah, up three spots. Like I don't know

720
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Speaker 3: if the Saints could get the first pick in the draft.

721
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 3: I think Denver could.

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Speaker 2: They could. Yeah, twenty six holding steady as Washington.

723
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 3: That's way higher than i'd have them. Yeah. I Thinkink

724
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: have some interesting pieces, but they got the offensive line

725
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 3: stinks and the defense stinks. Now there's short another weapon too,

726
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Speaker 3: and yeah, you know they got a lot of problems.

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Speaker 2: At twenty five, up three spots, the Titans probably about right.

728
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Speaker 2: At twenty four, up three spots. The Cardinals in tennessee'son

729
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: be looking for a quarterback after the year.

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Speaker 3: I do, I do too, Yeah, I'm not even sure

731
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: Rudolph doesn't play the last Rudolph.

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00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, maybe gets a shot. Who was after the

733
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Speaker 2: Cardinals At twenty four, that's up three spots.

734
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 3: Kah, it might be a little generous, but okay.

735
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: At twenty three, down four spots, the Vikings.

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Speaker 3: I suppose. I mean, this is a tough neighborhood because

737
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: it's the time of eternal optimism, so you think things

738
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 3: would be good. But full of these teams could go

739
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 3: either way, but probably it'll go backwards, you know, yeah,

740
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 3: usually more bad than good.

741
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Speaker 2: At twenty two, up a spot, Seattle, I lean the other.

742
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 3: I think that would have them a little higher. I

743
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: think the offense will be dec they might be league average.

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00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 3: Think it'll be the league average. Yeah, yeah, I mean

745
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 3: if the defense gets a little better just from coaching

746
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: and Murphy.

747
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: And you know, twenty one unchanged is the Colts.

748
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 3: That's like where they live all the time.

749
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. At twenty unchanged is the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean they invested in a lot of older

751
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 3: guys that should pay off for now. Yeah, I mean

752
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 3: not even all older, but like Winfield and Evans and

753
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Speaker 3: Baker and Whurf's.

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Speaker 2: I mean they kept all their own At nineteen up

755
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Speaker 2: three spots, the Falcons. They did nothing in the in

756
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Speaker 2: the preseason to move up three.

757
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole moving up and moving down.

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00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, they signed Simmons in Judaw.

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Speaker 3: And that's nice and that matters, But are they gonna

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Speaker 3: make them that much better team?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 3: I don't either.

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Speaker 2: At eighteen down five spots the Steelers.

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00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 3: They're probably saying quarterback situation is a mess, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: So if if Justin Fields had won the job, does

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00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: that mean the Steelers would be still be at thirteen?

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Speaker 2: I guess that's a good way of putting it. I'm

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Speaker 2: just I don't I don't get it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, some o line up in the air iness,

770
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Speaker 3: but that's not that big. I don't know. It's something

771
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Speaker 3: I've been that guy, and you always get criticized when

772
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 3: someone falls a lot. Sometimes just the other ones go up,

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00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 3: or they were all in the same tier anyway. But

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Speaker 3: I don't see any reason to go backwards with them

775
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 3: five spots. Yeah, that's a big that's a big big.

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Speaker 3: That's that's the biggest one yet. Yeah, it's a big

777
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 3: preseason fall without a big injury. Yeah, you know, like

778
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 3: in the regular season, get blown out Week one, like, yeah,

779
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 3: maybe we're just wrong on these guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, preseason is not real. It's seventeen holding steady.

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00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 3: The Jaguars, I think they're in similar tier and we

782
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: often lump the Browns in Miami. I just want to

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00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 3: see who jumped up on the who the Jaguars didn't

784
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 3: move at all.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there's a team we haven't gotten to yet, Chargers.

786
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right, were vehemently disagree with they must have

787
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 3: went out.

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00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: It's sixteen up two spots.

789
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 3: The Bears because Kayleb Williams look good in the preseason.

790
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: Against backups, Like his first what four possessions in the

791
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: last preseason game were terrible. We're terrible.

792
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 3: And then he then they saw on the backups and

793
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 3: oh he looks like a real quarterback. Yeah, he's playing

794
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 3: against a bunch of Amazon workers and he's running around

795
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 3: and doing athletics stuff too. You know, at fifteen down

796
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 3: a spot. The Rams, their defense worries me. They have

797
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 3: a lot of injuries too. Yeah, I mean going into

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00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 3: the season with some injuries on an older team, yeah,

799
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: or offense.

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00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 2: And moved on from there, you know, maybe more their

801
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: first or second best defensive player.

802
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 3: Like strangely, yeah, and got nothing back for him. Yeah,

803
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 3: strange one. At fourteen, down two spots the Browns. I

804
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 3: guess no one could feel better about Watson now than

805
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 3: the beginning of the previous I think he hardly played

806
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 3: or he played at all.

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00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: He didn't play at all. And it's not because they

808
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: didn't want to play him. Yeah, because he's still.

809
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 3: Because he still banged up and they couldn't play him.

810
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 3: So who went up? This seems like they're going down.

811
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't. I don't know. We'll find out. Okay, at

812
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: thirteen the.

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Speaker 3: Chargers shouldn't be in this conversation. At thirteen up, three spots,

814
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: the Chargers not sure? Why is he out of his mind?

815
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess I'm trying to think. What does

816
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 3: he thinking here?

817
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, they made the big trade for Taylor heinike.

818
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 3: I was gonna excuse it by last time you did it,

819
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 3: you thought Herbert wouldn't be ready for the start of

820
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 3: the year. Now he is.

821
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 2: But as great as I think Herbert is, he's not

822
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 2: throwing to anybody. No.

823
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 3: Their skill position is by far the worst in the

824
00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 3: league in my opinion.

825
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: I don't get it.

826
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 3: I don't get it.

827
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: I don't get it. I don't. I don't get the

828
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 2: love overall for the Chargers have an all offseason. I'm

829
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 2: a hardball believer, but you gotta have good players. Yeah,

830
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: that would help, right. At twelve up three spots the Jets.

831
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 3: Fine, they're in stable situation. They should get Redick signed

832
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 3: on these days, Yeah, that would help. Yeah.

833
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: At eleven holding steady the Dolphins.

834
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 3: Fair enough.

835
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: At ten holding steady the Dallas Cowboys.

836
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: I have some concerns, but I guess getting Lamb signed

837
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 3: is a good first step for them. At nine down

838
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 3: a spot, Green Bay, I don't know why any of

839
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 3: these would move much, especially teams that don't play anybody. Yeah,

840
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 3: but if their defense can be a big step forward,

841
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 3: I think they're a real contender.

842
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Jordan Love might lead to league in

843
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 2: passing yards this year.

844
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 3: Wouldn't shock me one bit. Wouldn't shock me one bit.

845
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 3: I think they can win the Super Bowl, Yeah, when

846
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 3: they can. At eight down a spot, Buffalo, I might

847
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 3: have slid them. They're a team that did have like

848
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 3: you lost lost Milano, like them in the spine of

849
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 3: that defense is rough and they ask a lot of them.

850
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: Safeties and linebackers used to be a massive strength. Yeah,

851
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 3: I do like their D line.

852
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: I'm going to drop them into the team somewhere.

853
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 3: I would too. I picked them win division, but that's

854
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 3: kind of I think Miami and the Jets will fall

855
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 3: apart as the season goes on. Not where they're at now.

856
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 2: At seven down a spot, Houston, they're a good team.

857
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 2: At six up three spots Cincinnati. The Chase stuff would

858
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: worry me a little a little bit. I mean, if

859
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: we're just going off recent news, I mean, if he

860
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: misses any time, that's going to hurt them substantial. Yeah,

861
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: hurt him in Week one.

862
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 3: They'll probably to Patriots either way. But okay, I guess

863
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 3: Burrows remained healthy, so they're optimistic.

864
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: There At five, holding Steady or the Eagles.

865
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 3: Seems a little rich for me. I like them. I

866
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 3: picked them one division, but there might be a couple

867
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 3: of teams I put ahead of them.

868
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: Move mentioned at four holding Steady are the Lions.

869
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 3: I'd consider. Put them at two.

870
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 2: I would too, They're my super Bowl pick. I might

871
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 2: put them at one.

872
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: I had them going to Super Bowl and losing. I

873
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 3: guess the Chiefs did or the Niners did? They think

874
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 3: they've locked up Trent Williams today. Yeah, and I locked up,

875
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 3: So you're out of the woods with some of those headaches.

876
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 3: But I still believe in Supers, and it's been a

877
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: lot of stuff going on around that organization that I

878
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 3: don't love. Three holding steady is Baltimore. I'd have Detroit

879
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 3: a head of Baltimore. I'd probably have Philadelphia head of Baltimore.

880
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 3: I definitely have Cincinnati, you.

881
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: Would be ahead of Baltimore. Yeah, not saying the Ravens

882
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 2: won't be a good team.

883
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 3: They'll definitely be a good but I.

884
00:39:55,239 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 2: Think people are underestimating. I did see a thing that

885
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 2: their offensive coordinator coordinator said that they're only going to

886
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 2: have one new starter on the offensive line, which tells

887
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: me mccary's gonna start at right tackle right be a guard,

888
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: that's new.

889
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, I guess that makes sense. Well, was

890
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: considered a starter at the end of all, he.

891
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: Couldn't have been.

892
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 3: He couldn't have been.

893
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: No, it has to be two.

894
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 3: It has to be two guards. Okay, that much sure?

895
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 2: Either way, they don't have any depth right.

896
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 3: Ros and gardens looming the guard but he's not ready. Yeah,

897
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 3: I don't know how that doesn't end up one.

898
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: That offensive line might be bad.

899
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 3: I hate say it, but they lost for offense line

900
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 3: coach too. Yeah, not because he was bad, because he

901
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 3: passed away. Yeah, like that's brutal. I mean they're their

902
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 3: coaching staff got literally devastating, really did. That's some of

903
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 3: it's for good reasons and one for really bad. Yeah,

904
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 3: I just I mean, I try to trust them to

905
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 3: figure it out. They're gonna be hard to play against.

906
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: They could beat the Chiefs on Thursday, but I wouldn't

907
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 3: have him this high. Yeah, I think I was currently concerned.

908
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 2: I think that offensive line is going to be markedly

909
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 2: worse than it wasn't make sure.

910
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 3: I absolutely agree.

911
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: To San Francisco. One is Kansas City.

912
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I'm fine with that.

913
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

914
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 3: I might have the Lions too. Worst, I'd have them three.

915
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

916
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 3: I don't see a lot of holes with the Lions.

917
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: I don't either.

918
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 3: I think they're in a really good spot.

919
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 2: I think they're I think they're a good football team.

920
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 3: They're playing all their games indoors this year, Yeah, which

921
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 3: is very golf friendly.

922
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he plays much better. I forget what you said.

923
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 3: The Packers where I want to say nine, But you're

924
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 3: talking about predictions and stuff on today's podcast, and I

925
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: said I'd pick the Packers to win a lot of divisions,

926
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: not that one. But I pick the football team, maybe

927
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 3: half the divisions AFC East, you know, certainly NFC North,

928
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: there might be a top five ish team.

929
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 2: I'd have them head a Buffalo.

930
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 3: I'd consider having them over all the NFC East teams. Yeah,

931
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 3: I don't think that's crazy. I don't see a lot

932
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 3: of holes. I think he's pretty good coach too. Yeah,

933
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 3: I might have them when I do power rings, I

934
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 3: might have them pretty high.

935
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 2: That's they're your power rank, I know.

936
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, He's why I we talk about it through a

937
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 3: day too, because I like might surprise people put that

938
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 3: up a little higher.

939
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: Steelers too low in this one, Yes, but I forget

940
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: their number eighteen.

941
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean because just behind Jacksonvilleain's and the Chargers

942
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 3: rubs me a little wrong.

943
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 2: The Chargers. I just don't get the Charger level when

944
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 2: you look at that roster.

945
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 3: Chargers and Bears are too. I think people are too

946
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 3: excited about especially the Chargers. Yeah.

947
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: Well, and I think the Bears were what right behind? No,

948
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 2: the Bears were ahead of the Steelers as well.

949
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 3: I just mean like over underwind totals and public perception, and.

950
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: They're fifteen and sixteen on this. Like, I don't get it.

951
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 3: I don't think the Bears are going to be this

952
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 3: year's Texans where the rookie quarterback just takes you to

953
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 3: double digit wins.

954
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: If the Steelers defense is the top, I think it

955
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: could be top three.

956
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 3: I think it could be top one.

957
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think it could be not wrong, but

958
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 2: I think I think the floor the floor is five.

959
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and let's decimated by somewhere, yeah, somewhere between one

960
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 3: and five. Yeah, if you have a reasonable amount of health. Yeah,

961
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,959
Speaker 3: let's say it's a top five units. It's five.

962
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: They run the ball away. I think they're going to

963
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: run the ball. The quarterback isn't turning the ball. I

964
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: don't The Russell Wilson disconnect, to me is what doesn't

965
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 2: make any sense.

966
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 3: There's other reasons for it, but if it just even

967
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 3: came down as simple as turnovers, I get the decision,

968
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, their their record are

969
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 3: so much worse when they don't win the turnover battle lately,

970
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 3: you know, like there's so much proof that turnovers are

971
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 3: super important to this team and one guy's way more

972
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 3: prone to turnable over the other. I mean, if it

973
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 3: was even just that conversation, and there's much more, I

974
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 3: think the favors will let alone against last year's guys.

975
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't understand it that.

976
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 3: I don't think a lot of people think it's a

977
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 3: quarterback upgrade, which is crazy, which is crazy. He might

978
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 3: not be the player used to be.

979
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 2: No might his.

980
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 3: Career right, yeah, he needs to be end of career

981
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 3: lway right, you know, he bet around the block off

982
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 3: if he's.

983
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty Ben Roethlisberger.

984
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 3: They're good.

985
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 2: They're gonna be a good football team.

986
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. I mean if it's the fifth defense and

987
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 3: the twentieth offense, they'll probably win ten games. Yeah, you know,

988
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 3: so I people don't look at it as deep as

989
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 3: that team as you know, if you're doing it, I'm

990
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: sure we could have some of these arguments too. For well,

991
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 3: if the Jags running game can go to twentieth, you know,

992
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 3: or the Bucks running I'm talking about bad running games,

993
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 3: you know, things like well they'll get better this year.

994
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 2: It doesn't always work that way, of course, but there's

995
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: some organizations that you trust more to get these things done.

996
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jacksonville not one of them. Jacksonville's not one of them, right, No,

997
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 3: no question. The Browns aren't one of the Browns are

998
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 3: not one of the Jets. Jets are not one of them. Yeah,

999
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 3: there's no question. So I'll be tight for that. Yeah,

1000
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 3: there absolutely is. But Matt, we're in regular season mode now.

1001
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: We are in regular season. Practice reports tomorrow and crazy

1002
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 3: stuff like.

1003
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: All the fun stuff's happening now.

1004
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a game Thursday night shows coming up

1005
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 3: this week like they were in absolute you know.

1006
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: Flying to Atlanta this weekend for a game, how about that?

1007
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 3: How about that? Yeah?

1008
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 2: Then I'll have to Denver the following week like it's

1009
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 2: it's on.

1010
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 3: It's on. Yeah, and we'll be at you five days

1011
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 3: a week. And people that are new and haven't been

1012
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 3: around for the drive during the season, we're pretty steady

1013
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 3: in what we do each day, you know. I mean

1014
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 3: it becomes a little more routine.

1015
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just have to remember the routine.

1016
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 3: That's that's your job. We'll get back into it. Oh boy,

1017
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 3: we're in trouble anyways. That's gonna do it for today's show.

1018
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: So for my partner, Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here

1019
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 2: on site keeping us on the air. I am Dale, Lolly.

1020
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Speaker 2: We thank you for listening to this edition of the

1021
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Speaker 2: Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.