1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the program. Mark Vandermin and John 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Harris with you as we kick off the weekend with 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: a fun Friday find Out Friday. I'm not gonna say 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: what comes before find Out, but we've got a lot 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: of things to talk about tonight. Nick Casario Jukebox coming 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: up later on in the show. Because Nick was on 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: the Pat McAfee show, he was on six ' ten. 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: This week, it's the Nick Radio Tour going on. As 9 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: the draft completed almost a week ago now, obviously Nick 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: at the Helm and he had plenty to say about 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: what the Texans did over the weekend and this entire offseason, 12 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: and the offseason continues of course, also Texans Ogs. This 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: week's episode features, of course, Indy Kalu, the host, and 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: Fred Weary, an original Texan guard from Tennessee. I'll remember 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: always when he was drafted the very first Texans draft 16 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: in history. Fred one of those what was it thirteen 17 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: selections in the college. 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: Draft, the very first college draft thirteen. 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: They had thirteen picks because expansion, So you had one 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: of the first round, two and the second went from there. 21 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: So Chester Pitts and Jabar Gaffney in the second round 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: those were good picks. You know, Jabbar played for a 23 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: while in this league. Chester played every down for years. 24 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: He was the iron Man and all of that. But 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: I've got something here, Johnny, because last night I did 26 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 1: a segment questions I get asked more than any other 27 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: this week, but overall this offseason and it's time to 28 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: start really delving into this. The schedule will be out, 29 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: we assume, presume, hope by this time next week we'll 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: be able to really sink our teeth into the fixtures. 31 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: As they called him in the Premier League. That's right. 32 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: Let's look at the table and look at the fixtures. 33 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: That would be the standings and the schedule. They have 34 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: to have a different name for everything. Or if you're 35 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: like me, you find out the hard way that in 36 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: soccer the home team is listed first, not second. That's 37 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: why I showed up at a Dynamo game last year 38 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: and the dash was playing or we're playing, as we 39 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: used the plural in the singular in the soccer team lingo. 40 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: I'm going to the Dynamo this weekend. 41 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: By the way, Oh nice Star Wars night, and vander 42 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: Kid two is a big Star Wars fan. 43 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: He's eleven years old so once. Yeah, absolutely, why not? 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: That's a that's huge. 45 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: I love how leagues that aren't in the NFL that 46 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 3: you will do whatever. They'll do whatever they can. They 47 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: come up with theme nights, and Star Wars night's got 48 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: to be pretty interesting. 49 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: It's May the fourth and May the fourth being see 50 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: that's tomorrow, that's Saturday. 51 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: So that makes all the sense. That's your favorite Star 52 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: Wars movie, Johnny, it's. 53 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 3: Probably just the original. I was never really a big 54 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 3: Star Wars guy. Well, I mean I watched all three 55 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 3: when I was growing up. 56 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: But three, Oh you mean, but you've watched every other 57 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: words since I saw those original three and that was it. 58 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 2: That was it. That was it. 59 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: I mean the Phantom Menace, No Middle three, the middle 60 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: that were made. I know, it's the earlier episodes and 61 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: then you have the later episodes with the guy from 62 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: Girls what's his name, I forget who's playing those whatever? 63 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: His name is Darth you know, the latest evil guy. 64 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 65 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: The funny thing about Arth Mall No, no, Darth Maul 66 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: was in The Phantom Menace and he's actually it's not 67 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: Attack of the Clones. What's the TV show The Clones? 68 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: I don't know the Clone Wars. That's what it is. 69 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: Van Kid watches that and Darth Maul somehow is still 70 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: alive for that show. 71 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: I saw the original three. People listening can tell we're 72 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: not really that knowledgeable. 73 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, and they're probably just just laughing at 74 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 1: Hylo Wren. That's the guy's name. 75 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 3: Ah. 76 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 2: Yes, I saw the original three. 77 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was that, and then there was you know, 78 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: those Original three, and then there was like this big 79 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: massive break and then all of a sudden they came 80 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: back with one of Phantom Menace, the very first one 81 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: that they came back with. 82 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: Jack. I took Jack to watching the theaters. Yeah. Now 83 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: back back then it was ninety nine. I think that. Yeah, 84 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: I believe. So I know, I know. 85 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 3: I took Jack to see one of them, and he 86 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: we got maybe about it of the way through, and 87 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 3: he looked over and he goes, Dak, can we leave? 88 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: No way? Yeah? No way? Yeah, And I just. 89 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: Went, come on, sure, even a bad Star Wars movie, 90 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: I'll watch it. 91 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: He did entertaining. Now he didn't care. 92 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: Now, obviously, you know Jack, with crowds and things like that, 93 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 3: there are some issues, but okay, he just got kind 94 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: of to a point where he was like dak we 95 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: Go and then he's never asked to watch a Star 96 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 3: Wars movie ever. 97 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: Again, Well, it's May the fourth, so this weekend, so 98 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: a lot of Star Wars fick going fourth, love it, 99 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: And that's the Star Wars references. One thing that strikes 100 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: me about those movies is in a many series, there's 101 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: always another evil guy who's above in the hierarchy of evil, 102 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: the other evil guy that you thought was the highest 103 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,679 Speaker 1: you could go, Like Chancellor Palpentine, the Emperor. You thought, 104 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: well there was darz Vader. Then there's the Emperor. But 105 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: the Emperor as a boss too. I think maybe even 106 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: he is a boss. There's a gigantic evil guy in 107 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: a wheelchair in the most recent movies made, not in 108 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: a wheelchair, but he's in this throne thing and he's 109 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: kind of intimidating. 110 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 2: Okay, I have one for you. You said something that 111 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 2: triggered my thought. This is this is what I was 112 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: this is what I was thinking about when I was 113 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 2: driving up here. You you hit it perfectly. The hierarchy 114 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 2: of evil. Okay, who would you. 115 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 3: Put in the hierarchy of evil of the Houston Texans evil? Oh, 116 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: in our enemies, gritory, the hierarchy of evil, like all 117 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 3: time are right now? 118 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: All time? 119 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: Okay, oh, this is beautiful. The hierarchy of evil. I 120 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: mean you gotta start with Peyton Peyton Manning. Manning is 121 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: definitely in there, the highest of evil you can get, 122 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: like a Star Wars movie. Manning became good after he retired. 123 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: He turned back to the good side of the force. Right, 124 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: so he's all right now, I'm all right with him, 125 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, I do back then, he was the Emperor. 126 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: He was Darth Manning. He was evil football version personified. 127 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: He was sick sixteen and two as a cult against 128 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans sixteen and two, Johnny, you could not 129 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: beat Peyton Manning. And it wasn't just him. He had 130 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: his Stormtroopers. He had Reggie Wayne, he had Marvin Harrison, 131 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: he had Robert Mathis and Dwight Freeney, he had Dallas Clark. 132 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: It went on and on, edgarn James, and then that 133 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: gave way to Joseph and Die and it was awful 134 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: for so many years. The first decade basically of Texans 135 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: history was Peyton Manning, the evil Emperor. 136 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 3: The hierarchy of evil, Peyton Manning for sure. Okay, I 137 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: will give you names that I can think of. You 138 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 3: tell me whether they belong to the hierarchy of evil. 139 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 3: Thomas Edward Brady ak Tom Brady, all right, in the 140 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 3: hierarchy of evil. 141 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: He's second. Okay, all right, I'm gonna tell you why 142 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: after rankerm You just have to tell me whether they're in. 143 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: If you had this roundtable and they had a Bordge 144 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: directors meeting, Yes, Thomas Edward Brady is there with Peyton Manning. 145 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 2: I know you've. 146 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: Beaten Brady here in twenty nineteen. You beat him on 147 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football. It was awesome. It was an awesome night. 148 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 2: Yep. 149 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: However, and you beat him in O nine in the 150 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: regular season finale. He sat out a couple of series. 151 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,239 Speaker 1: That was the game where Wes Welker ripped up his knee. 152 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: It's featured prominently in multiple Patriot documentaries. So you beat 153 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: him then too, But you've never beaten him at Gillette 154 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: and he ripped your heart out twice in the playoffs 155 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: in the Divisional round two victories for Thomas Brady and 156 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: also just numerous other. 157 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: Times up there. Week three of twenty seventeen I don't 158 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: have to go through all of them. 159 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: Obviously, Monday Night Football in twenty twelve was the come 160 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: up ins that you didn't want to see because the 161 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: Texans were eleven and one going up there with the 162 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: letterman jackets, and Brady just says, is that your heart 163 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: rips it out of your chest. 164 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: He's in the evil circle. 165 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 3: He's in the hierarchy of evil. So you think about 166 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: this big boardroom and two the chairs are occupied by 167 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: Peyton Manning and by Thomas Brady, Tom Brady, Thomas Edgard 168 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 3: Brady like saying the full name because I don't, well, 169 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 3: I like Brady now, I don't know why. Here's another one. 170 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: You got to think about this a little bit. I 171 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: bet I don't fat Albert Hainesworth. Oh is fat Albert 172 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:16,119 Speaker 3: Haynesworth in the hierarchy of evil for one and one 173 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: incident only? 174 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, And there were other times where he's just a nuisance, 175 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: a menace. But he is because he's more like a 176 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: guy who does like Boba Fett, he does dirty work, right, 177 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: right right. He knocked out Matt schob in twenty what 178 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: was the year, eleven eleven, Yeah, twenty eleven, playing for 179 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. Late in the game, quarterback sneak somehow he 180 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: smushes Matt Shob's foot into oblivion. 181 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 2: Liz Frank surgery. 182 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: We didn't know Liz Frank from and Frank from anybody, 183 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: but we all knew what Liz Frank surgery was after that, 184 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: because that knock Shob out for the season changed history. 185 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: Obviously, it went very well with TJ. 186 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: Yates relatively, but it could have got even better with 187 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: a healthy match shop. So Hainesworth responsible for that? Yep, Yes, 188 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: he's in the evil service. He's in the third seat. Okay, 189 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: in no particular order. Okay, these two, I'm pretty sure 190 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: that they are in the hierarchy of evil. In fact, 191 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: you can discuss him if you want, but I think 192 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: these two are about as easy. These two are about 193 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: as slam dunks as when the Pro Football Hall of 194 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: Fame crew stands up and says, hey, John says, I'm 195 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: presenting JJ Watt for enshrinement in the Hall of Fame, 196 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: and he can sit back down because you just don't 197 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: need to talk about it anymore. 198 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: But you can talk about him. Derrick Henry and t Y. 199 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: Hilton, all right, So those guys are top five villains 200 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: to me all time of the Houston Texans. 201 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, they sit in the room. 202 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: T Y has had so many big games against the Texans, 203 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: and none bigger than playoffs. Playoffs of twenty eighteen when 204 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: he comes into NRG Stadium wearing a clown mask because 205 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: of a comment that JJO made about him being a clown. 206 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: And I don't fall Jjo at all for that. 207 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: I figured when Ty shows up in the clown mask 208 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: on a playoff afternoon, comes out of the bus with 209 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: a clown mask on, I thought the Texans were locks 210 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: to win. 211 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: Yep, didn't work out that way. 212 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: T Y actually has a huge game against the Texans, 213 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: and he is one of the all time great Texans villains, 214 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: and great in a big not a good way, a 215 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: big way. 216 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: Yep. 217 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: Okay, So Derrick Henry and t Y Hilton, Derrick Henry 218 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: way up there. We all know he's still He's got 219 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: his throne sitting over there that he can just slide into. 220 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: But what happened this year? You had two historically good games. 221 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: In fact, Henry in the game up there when they 222 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: were winning wearing the oiler uniforms, he had one of 223 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: the worst or the worst performance by a running back 224 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: in the history of the league. Considering how many carries 225 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: he had in the game, that's amazing. 226 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 3: After all those games of two hundred yards, it came 227 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 3: to that. It's ridiculous. 228 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: Okay. 229 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 3: The hierarchy of evil boardroom is really it's really big. Yeah, 230 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: like it's massive, not just people can go into the higherarchy. 231 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: You're missing a guy, by the way. This is not 232 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: a guy. Oh okay, this is a location. Okay, yeah, 233 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: I know where you're going with. 234 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 3: This is Gillette Stadium in the hierarchy of evil. 235 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: It is, and I feel like it is more than 236 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: another place when the Texans have lost in the divisional round. Yep, 237 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: all right, I feel like it's in there. Gillette Stadium 238 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 1: is definitely in the hierarchy of evil. It is one 239 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: of the all time Texan villains. It's not a person, 240 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: it's a place, but it's the haunted house on the Hill. 241 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: It's like the death Star. It's like the death Star. 242 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: It is. I'll tell you how bad it is. 243 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 3: Our ideas of winning die, our thoughts of winning die 244 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: as soon as we walk into Gilette Stadium, hoping that 245 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 3: changes this year, but it's never happened. 246 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: Well, winning there in the preseason last summer. I gotta 247 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: tell you, this is how bad it's been there. Winning 248 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: in the preseason was so satisfyction. 249 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: It was a satisfying preseason win. 250 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: Yes, it was because because we won up there and 251 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: also was Demiko's first game. Yep, it was cool to 252 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: be up there, to win there, to leave their satisfied. 253 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: I didn't care that Strad through a pick. Strad will 254 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: be fine. He's learning, he'll be fine. I just want 255 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: to beat the Patriots up there to let stadium with 256 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: you know who coaching. 257 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 2: He's done now. So you knocked him out. 258 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: Well you really didn't, because he went on to have 259 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: the regular season which knocked him out. But it was 260 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: fun to win up there, John, Yeah, definitely was fun 261 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: to win up there. 262 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: He lost two playoff games up there, I know two. 263 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 3: I know we can also put M ANDT Bank Stadium, 264 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: but it doesn't have quite the evil flare. 265 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: No, no, it doesn't quite. 266 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: It's not a good place though, because the Texans have 267 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: literally never won there as well. Right, and as John 268 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: McClean reminded everybody last night when he was on the 269 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: air with US, Texans have never beaten Lamar Jackson and 270 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, oh, he's right about that. Never Lamar has 271 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: only been here once. That was twenty twenty Week two. 272 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: You had no fans in a bilding for that week. 273 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: That was yeah. 274 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: To see eventually they would have the scattered fans. Yeah, 275 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: socially distanced. 276 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: That was nobody. I don't know why that first game 277 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: Texans weren't allowed to have. Yeah, I don't know what 278 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: it was. It was there's no fans. 279 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: It was empty. I don't want to have to do 280 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: that ever. No more pandemics place. 281 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 3: Whenever they show highlights when there's that YouTube channel NFL 282 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 3: Throwback and they'll have some sort of highlight package of something, 283 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 3: and they'll have something from the twenty twenty season and 284 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 3: you just see the sparse crowd and it's just. 285 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: Like the hair on the back of my neck. Stand. 286 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, ah, man, Okay. The Hierarchy of Evil 287 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 3: nomination comes from Nashville, Tennessee. He is immortalized for being 288 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 3: a turtle and at the back end of Andre Johnson's 289 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 3: fists is Courtland Finnigan. 290 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 2: In the hierarchy of Evil. 291 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: I won't give them that kind of respect, Okay. I 292 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: respect people in the hierarchy of evil. Sitting at that 293 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: boardroom table. 294 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 3: Think, think about the buildings and the people that are 295 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 3: in there already finning. 296 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: It doesn't deserve to be in there. 297 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: It's like saying that you know something you have to 298 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: call the exterminator for is in the hierarchy of evil. 299 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: It's not. 300 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: It's just a pest. He's a pest. He's a good one. 301 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: He's a pest though. And by the way, folks, if 302 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: you haven't heard Andre Johnson with dy Kalou and they 303 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: are Texans OG's episode, it's on the website, it's also 304 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: on YouTube, and you go ahead and search for it. 305 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: But Andre talks about Finnegan in a way that you 306 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: might not have ever heard. And he goes over the 307 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: whole history of the Finnigan thing. 308 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: And where are we back? Yeah? How go back years now? 309 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: I thought he got the games wrong, you know, players 310 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: don't always because oh, nine, week two, they played a 311 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: game up there, So I think that in in a 312 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: lot of players' minds that was the first game against 313 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: the Titans that year, and then the second game was 314 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: the Finnigan game. It wasn't like that, it was week 315 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: two up there. Oh no, there's a massive not massive brawl. 316 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: But it's a pretty nice dust up in front of 317 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: the Texans. Manch Mario's involved with it, numerous players. Finnegan's 318 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: definitely involved. And later on that year, the Texans would 319 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: lose to the Titans on Monday Night Football, and there 320 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: was no Finigan incident that was worth note. I'm sure 321 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: there was stuff going on in the field, dawing, whatever 322 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: that we didn't see. Now, later in twenty ten is 323 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: when the Finnigan game occurs. Twenty ten, I want to 324 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: say the Texans, Yeah, went up there after the home game. 325 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: So the home game in twenty ten was when the 326 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: Finegan fight was. 327 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: That was Rusty Smith, wasn't it. 328 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was Russey Smith and Andre just kicking the 329 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: daylights out of Courtland Finnegan. But then the Texans finished 330 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: up the season. I didn't know they didn't finish against 331 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: the Titans, but they went up there later and got 332 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: beat And I don't think Andre played in that game anyway. 333 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: Yeah he was. 334 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: He was ejected and fined. Bro what happened against Finnegan. 335 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: But Finigan is not in the hierarchy of evil. He's 336 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: just a pest finner. He's a past He's none in there. Yeah, okay, 337 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: all right, let's go to this one. 338 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: Okay. 339 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 3: Now, sometimes the hierarchy of evil can be so bitter 340 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 3: and evil. In just one instance, you gotta think about 341 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 3: putting him, her or it in nomination for the hierarchy 342 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 3: of evil. Matt Hasselback in a diaper does Matt Hasselbeck type. 343 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: I'm not putting I'm not putting Hasslebeck in there. You know. 344 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 2: It's funny. Hasslebeck played here in nine with. 345 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: The Seattle Seahawks and then Texans won that game, first 346 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: of a four game winning streak to end the season. 347 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: Of course, to Hasslebeck in a diaper game he had 348 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,479 Speaker 1: montezum was Revenge twenty fifteen Thursday Night cold. 349 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 2: And three touchdowns to the aforementioned Dondre Johnson. Yeah, that 350 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 2: really hurt a lot. That was just that was one 351 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: of those you think about it. It's like, Man, if 352 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: we have to. 353 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: Talk about specific games that were real disappointing, that's definitely 354 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: maybe in the top five. Yeah, as far as games, 355 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: it didn't knock you out of anything, but they just 356 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: made you feel horrible. 357 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 2: That obviously, the. 358 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: Vince Young thirty nine yard over time. I'm run, you know, 359 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you know six, but I don't think Hasslebeck is. 360 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: But you're missing a guy. Okay, I know, I'm continuing 361 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: down the list. We'll see if we get to that list. 362 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 2: Okay. 363 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 3: Okay, So Matt Hasselback and a diaper does not go 364 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 3: not get in in the hierarchy of evil, Okay. A 365 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: guy that's relatively new on the scene. I don't know 366 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 3: where that would fall into Star Wars lexicon, but he's 367 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 3: fairly new. But he has driven daggers into our hearts 368 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 3: numerous times. Now we got it once, yeah, but the 369 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 3: other times have been just gut punches. Is Patrick Mahomes 370 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 3: in the hierarchy of evil? 371 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 2: Absolutely? Okay? 372 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: Because they don't come back from down twenty four to 373 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: nothing without Mahomes. I know they had a rebreaks contributing 374 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: to that in Texans. Mistakes like going forward in your 375 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,959 Speaker 1: own end in a punt formation or fumbling a kickoff return. 376 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: Things not to do when you want to win a 377 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: football game, when you want to try to protect a 378 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: twenty four to nothing lead. But from then on, Mahomes 379 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: lit it up. And guess what, you had a quarterback 380 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: on your side who the next year would lead the 381 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: league in passing and throw a team record amount of 382 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: touchdowns thirty three and all that, but you couldn't do 383 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: anything about it. The Texan scored one more touchdown the 384 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: rest of the night day, whatever that was, because it 385 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: was an afternoon into a night game. 386 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 2: I don't know what time of dated we kick that 387 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 2: baby off. I don't know. It was light out when 388 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 2: it started, It was dark when it ended, and very 389 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 2: dark dark. 390 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: Scott Pioli and Patriots Dynasty and Apple TV dark losing 391 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: that game. But Mahomes is definitely in the hierarchy of evil. 392 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: He is a menace. You lost that game in the playoffs. 393 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: The very next game you play as the twenty twenty 394 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: opener on Thursday night up there, and you lose that game. 395 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: It sucked, It was awful, and he's fully responsible for 396 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: your misery in that situation. 397 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 2: Now, when did he face some other two here? 398 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 3: We got him down and then they ended up winning 399 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 3: it over time, gosh, And that was so winnable. 400 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: It was stopped him in overtime, I know. And then 401 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 1: we get a fumble winnable. 402 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 3: So into the hierarchy of evil goes Patrick Mahomes in 403 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 3: a sidecar Travis. 404 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: Car I'm gonna throw one of you. 405 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Travis Kelcey, Yeah, he goes, he goes in, 406 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: all right, So Travis kelce we see him in twenty fifteen, right. 407 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 3: Two touchdowns here, yep, first game of the year, all right, 408 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 3: two touchdowns here. 409 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 2: Twenty sixteen shut him down, all right? So twenty fifteen, 410 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 2: first game of the year. What did he do in 411 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: the playoff game? Here? Thirty to nothing victory for the Chiefs. Oh, 412 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 2: I think it was over by the time they did 413 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 2: anything in that game. I can't remember if he did 414 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 2: much in that game. 415 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: Because yeah, I don't remember how much when they kick 416 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,479 Speaker 1: off for a touchdown. But then week two and twenty sixteen, 417 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: the Texans beat the chief shut him down. Alex Smith's 418 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks no Mahomes then, right, but yeah, and. 419 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 2: Jack Boyer covered h mainly made man and shut him down. 420 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 3: Twenty seventeen, we played him here on a Sunday night, 421 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 3: and I I remember we couldn't We couldn't stop him. 422 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 3: Twenty nine teams slowed him down in the first game. 423 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 3: In the playoff game, yeah, forget about it. I mean 424 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 3: he I think he had two or three touchdowns in 425 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 3: that in that second game against US, and he listened. 426 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey is in the hierarchy of evil for for 427 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 3: many teams, but he has been a thorn. I'm I'm 428 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 3: voting for him to go into the hierarchy of evil 429 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 3: right alongside Patrick Mahomes. He can get in the sidecar 430 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 3: while you know, Patrick drives a motorcycle. I'm I'm putting 431 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey in the hierarchy of evil. 432 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: So do you put so? I got one for you. 433 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 2: Here's another one. 434 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 3: No, this one Okay, you got to think about this 435 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 3: one a little bit, but it kind of fits because 436 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: the player I'm about to ask you about, I think 437 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 3: is the definition of evil. I e. 438 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: Dirty. I thought he was dirty as could be. 439 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 3: Does Jets offensive lineman Matt Slawson go into the hierarchy 440 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 3: of evil for what he did to Brian Cushing's acl. 441 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: So this is a good one off, you know. I 442 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: think it's almost another category like Hainsworth. 443 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 2: You mentioned him earlier. 444 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Slawson knocking Cushing out of the year, and right 445 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: five was Monday Night Football for. 446 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: Twenty twelve of a year in which we needed Cush. 447 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: You needed Cush needed Tody gone all right in the offseason. 448 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 2: Cushing's the leader. 449 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: He's having a hell of a start to the later 450 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: and him going out meant that, all right, there's no Dimico, 451 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: there's no Cushing. You're playing Barrett Rude and Brady James. 452 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 2: At the end of the year. 453 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: You're trying to hang in there at linebacker. You can't 454 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: cover all the Patriot running backs who are running at 455 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: Marine Shane Veren, Shane Vereen dancing like Ben Vereen in 456 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: the end zone. 457 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 3: I just had a Shane hold on what Okay, well, 458 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 3: I don't want to say it. I'll I'll talk to 459 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 3: you about it during the break. But I had a 460 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 3: Shane Veren blast on something. I'll tell you about that 461 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 3: during the break. But I think that Slawson goes right 462 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 3: in there and sits right next to Albert Haynesworth. They're 463 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 3: in the check the Texans from the Super Bowl hierarchy 464 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 3: of evil with individual incidents, because Hainesworth was eleven and 465 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 3: then you have it's lost it in twenty twelve and 466 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 3: they they single handedly kept Now, I was going to 467 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 3: ask you another one. Yeah, I feel bad for asking 468 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 3: this because he's just a sweetheart of a person and 469 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 3: we loved him even though he didn't say a whole 470 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 3: hell of a lot. But does Will Fuller's body go 471 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 3: into the hierarchy of. 472 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 2: He because can stay healthy. 473 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 3: And we cut twenty eighteen if he stays healthy. I 474 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 3: remember after that Miami Dolphins game. I was watching NFL 475 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 3: Network that night in my office and they're just like, man, 476 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 3: this Texas team, Holy smokes, are they powerful. They're good 477 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 3: and we just hammered the Dolphins. They are like, but 478 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 3: we don't know about the Fuller thing. When the next 479 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 3: morning we find out will tursda aycl. I don't want 480 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 3: to put Will Fuller's body in the hierarchy of evil, 481 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 3: but it goes into the hierarchy of sadness, that's for sure. 482 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 3: Because he stayed healthy. That team was just a different 483 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 3: it's a different level with him. 484 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 2: It's another category. 485 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: It is definitely. I've got other guys in that category. Yeah, 486 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,239 Speaker 1: Dominic Davis Williams. Yeah, three years of beautiful stuff and 487 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: then he's done. Yep, all right, Steve Slate because the 488 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: following year, after eight, and he led the AFC and 489 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: yards and scrimmage neck yeah, o nine. 490 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 2: He's all dinged up and then it football's weird. Eight. 491 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: You have a remarkable performance out of Steve Slayton through 492 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: the entirety of the season, and you're one of the 493 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: best offenses in the league. 494 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 2: Literally at that point oh. 495 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: Nine, you're kind of piecing together a run game any 496 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: which way you can, and you're carving out a winning season. 497 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: But the last two games of the year, a new 498 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: running back emerges, an Aaron Foster. So that's just a 499 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: year later. It's so interesting how all that plays out. 500 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: Then Arian's here for a number of years, obviously, but 501 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: right now and then twenty two we got Damian Pierce erupting. 502 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: Twenty three doesn't erupt, but singletary is a nice year, 503 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: almost a thousand yards, and who knows where it's going. 504 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: Now you got Joe Mixon. Maybe Pierce really bounces back. 505 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: Hard Nick has said, Pierce is figuring big into our plans. 506 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 2: Good. 507 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: I want to see Damian Pierce rock on because I 508 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: love Damian Pierce. Let's go, let's get back to it 509 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: where you were in twenty two or some version of that, 510 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: and let's have it. But there are other catgories like that, 511 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: because Slayton, Davis Fuller, guys who couldn't stay healthy, who 512 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: were supposed to be and would have been I think 513 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: really really great over the long term for this franchise. 514 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 3: Hierarchy of evil nomination, No, this is now. This one's 515 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 3: it's a little tricky. It's a little tricky because he 516 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 3: was here and we liked him and we could see 517 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 3: how good a coach he was gonna be. But then 518 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 3: he went to Tennessee and became one of the better 519 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 3: NFL head coaches. Now we had success against him. Yeah, 520 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 3: But does the hierarchy of evil nomination of Mike Vrabel 521 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 3: with the Tennessee Titans, does he warrant enough to get 522 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 3: into the room with Mahomes, Peyton Manning, Derrick Henry, And 523 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 3: because Rabel was instrumental with Derrick Henry, does Mike Vrabel 524 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 3: go in the hierarchy of now? 525 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: Not enough moments against the Texans Week two of eighteen. 526 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: That was really good coaching staff, that was really good 527 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: in nineteen. You know you won the division in nineteen, right, 528 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: But it's the Titans who go to the AFC Championship game, 529 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: not the Texans. 530 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 3: They had all celebration here that last game of nineteen 531 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 3: like they had done something. And then Henry's running for 532 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 3: two fifty against the JV defense and they're like, look 533 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 3: it up. 534 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 2: Well, then they went the AFC Championship game, right. 535 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: Right, it's a good point. They celebrated because they made 536 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: the playoffs. They go to New England, they knock them out, 537 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: and that's really the end of the dynasty right there. 538 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: And then the next week they knocked the Ravens out, 539 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: the top seed in the entire tournament. 540 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 3: Okay, let me ask you another nomination, This one will 541 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 3: be careful with, kind of is the ownership of the 542 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,959 Speaker 3: Tennessee Titans in the hierarchy of evil? 543 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 2: All right, that's the hierarchy of rivalry. 544 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know when I talked to players, who 545 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: was I talking to this week, Oh Wade Smith. I 546 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: was with him at the insider reception and somebody asked 547 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: him who's the best Texans rival or the biggest rival? 548 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: He said to the players, he thinks it's the Titans. 549 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: And I thought, okay, interesting because everything that's been going 550 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: on now when he played, you had y and those guys. Yeah, 551 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: Van den Bosch, you had interesting. You had what's the 552 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: why am I Bullock was the linebacker? 553 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? 554 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 2: And I'm blanking out on the Jason. 555 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: Baban, you know, former Texans, a bunch of players who 556 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: were really into it with the Texans, and Finnegan among them. 557 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: Uh So he looks at that as a big rival. 558 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: The Colts are a little different, you know. I always 559 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: call them a nemesis, not a rival, because I don't 560 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: think the Texans have a good enough record against the 561 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: Colts to call it a big time rivalry. But I 562 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: think it is now now when you look at how 563 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: many times have the Texans won there since they started 564 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: winning there, not. 565 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 3: Five, five, five, five and fifteen years, fifteen, sixteen, eighteen, 566 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 3: twenty two, twenty three. 567 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: That's strong. So since fifteen you really held your own 568 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: with them. 569 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,479 Speaker 2: Since fourteen, I mean fourteen. 570 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 3: If they were not gotten a holding called him and 571 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 3: tied in the fourth quarter, I've gone. I've been up 572 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 3: there for ten games, ten games, five and five. 573 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: When you know, you can't really just take out the 574 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: Manning years, But when you do take out the Maning years, 575 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: it's relatively even. They still have the lead, and they 576 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: did beat you in a playoff game in your building, 577 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: but knocking them out in their building was so satising, 578 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: And I said it at the time. 579 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: I said it. 580 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: After the Curse of the Colts is over, but the 581 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: specter of the Colts being who they are the horseshoe 582 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: is not over. You have to respect them. You cannot 583 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 1: ever take it for granted that you're better than them, 584 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: and you better go get them because they want you bad. 585 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 2: Okay. 586 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:35,479 Speaker 3: The hierarchy of evil nomination comes from New England the 587 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 3: head coach former head coach of the New England Patriots, 588 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 3: Bill Belichick. 589 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 2: Does you go into the hierarchy of evil? I don't 590 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 2: feel like he does, Johnny. I think it's more Brady 591 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 2: in the stadium. Yeah, he's certainly the only year city. 592 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: I think the same thing. I think the same thing. 593 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 2: I was going to say, No, you know, I. 594 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: Can't say that when Belichick was at the helm of 595 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: the Patriots and they were really good, that I liked 596 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: him because I always looked at them as the bad guy, 597 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: the opponent right back to Belichick so much, and I 598 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: was actually really rooting for him in that Patriots dynasty. 599 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: Not like rooting for them to win Supervils as they 600 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 1: were retrospecting, but I was rooting for him. Hey, why 601 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: are they burying Belichick here in these later episodes when 602 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: everybody else had a hand in this as well, right, right, 603 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: So I just thought they really wronged him in this series. 604 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Okay, I got another one, all right, Hierarchy of Evil. Now, 605 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 3: this is not a guy that we faced a lot. 606 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 3: In fact, we faced him four times. The first time 607 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 3: we got him, but he was well, he was his 608 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 3: first year starting. But then the next three times mis 609 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 3: future Hall of Famer lit us the f up does 610 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers go into the hierarchy of evil for his 611 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 3: three games in twelve, sixteen, and twenty against the Texas. 612 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: Gosh, twelve sucked. That was really rough, that football, some 613 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 2: of that football at home, and he's just likeating everybody. 614 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: This team was no picnic either, because that was the 615 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: third loss of a three game losing streak at a 616 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: bad time of year, because they were six and three. 617 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 3: Limping his way to a win against US and they're 618 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 3: on touchdown to Jordan Nelson over a bare chested Charles 619 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 3: James twenty twenty. 620 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: I had covid. I'm doing the game at home exactly. 621 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: He brought that on. He did, Yeah, got me covid, right, 622 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: he goes in, he gave me covid. 623 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 2: Rogers goes to the hierarchy of evil. Okay, I think 624 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 2: he's there. He's barely absolutely, but it's room. 625 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 3: And and you know what, we're going to see him 626 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 3: this year. He's like Scott Rowland going to the Baseball 627 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. Don't know how he got in there, 628 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 3: but he's in there. He's in there. So who's the 629 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 3: chairman of the hierarchy of evil? Who sits in the 630 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 3: big chair in the Texans hierarchy of evil? 631 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 2: It's Manning, Okay, who is the Who is the vice president? Brady? 632 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 2: Who's the treasurer? Ty? Okay? 633 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: Then it's Derrick Henry, then Mahomesh and then Rogers and 634 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: then ju Lett Stadium. 635 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's stay. 636 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 3: So just hold all their meetings. Those hold all their 637 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 3: meetings in Jellette State Facility, all right, exactly where they 638 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: need to be. Thanks a lot, Johnny, Thank you, Mark. 639 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 3: All right, coming up, it is Texans Ogs. We're gonna 640 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 3: have nd and Fred Weary talk. We're also going to 641 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 3: have Nick Cassario's comments on the Pat McAfee show to 642 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 3: showcase for you in case you missed. 643 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: Them, and even if you didn't miss them, they are 644 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: worth hearing again. It's Texans Radio. Back to it here 645 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: on Texans Radio and as promised, here's a great sampling 646 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: of a conversation between n. D. Kalou and Fred Weary 647 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: Texans Ogs podcast. 648 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 2: This is just a tidbit of it. 649 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: You should listen to the whole thing on Houston Texans 650 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: dot com, Spotify or YouTube. It's up there as well 651 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: as you can see video images of these guys. But 652 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: they cover a lot of stuff, including one of the 653 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: Texans draft choices, Blake Fisher and early days with the 654 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: Houston Texans and Fred winning a national championship at the 655 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: University of Tennessee. 656 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 2: Let's listen in to Texans OG's with n. D. Kalou 657 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 2: and Fred Weary. 658 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 5: Second pick offens attacker out of Notre Dame Blake Fisher. 659 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 5: Just kind of thoughts and not so much on Blake Fisher. 660 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 5: I'm not saying breakdown, but drafting an offensive tackle with 661 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 5: your second overall pick. 662 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 4: As an organization, man, that's I mean, you win football 663 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 4: games in the trenches. I mean, well that's on the 664 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 4: offense or defensive line. I mean, you gotta make sure 665 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 4: that you're you know, taking care of that's a that's 666 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 4: a necessity, you know what I mean. Because those guys quarterbacks, 667 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 4: running backs, receivers. They can't do anything if you don't 668 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,479 Speaker 4: have those guys to take care of the business up front. 669 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 4: I like the second pick, the kid from Notre Dame. 670 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 4: I mean, one of the things that jump right out 671 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 4: at me, man, is you know, hey, man, he knows 672 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 4: how to sit and play releverage and all that stuff. 673 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 4: And so when as a as a former offensive line 674 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 4: with myself, when I see those you know, watch guys 675 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 4: on film, I mean, those are the things that I'm 676 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 4: looking for, you know what I mean, he plays with 677 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 4: me being, he plays with power and all that stuff, 678 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 4: and so I think that was a you know, a 679 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 4: great pick for them and all that stuff. And I 680 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 4: think he'll probably you know, potentially come in and you know, be. 681 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 5: A push some guys. 682 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 2: He's gonna push. 683 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 4: Hey, well this I mean, you know, it's moving chairs sometimes, 684 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 4: that offensive line and stuff. So you gotta I mean, 685 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 4: that's the thing about having a good offensive front. Hey, 686 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 4: it's like putting a puzzle together, you know, I gotta 687 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 4: make make sure all the pieces fit and all that stuff. 688 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 4: So hey, it may be some may be some moving around. Man, 689 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 4: if he comes in and you know, take care of 690 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 4: his business and do the things that he's supposed to 691 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 4: do grow as a grow as a pro football player, 692 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 4: and you know, and and grow early and all that stuff. 693 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 4: I think that's a that's a be a good fit 694 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 4: for him on his offensive line. 695 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 5: Here's what I like about that pick with Blake Fisher, 696 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 5: offensive tackle of Notre Dame. Look, people don't want to 697 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 5: say it because of the successful season, and we forget. 698 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 5: We have to be reminded the best teams you compete 699 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 5: at every position. So Blake Fisher's coming in here saying, 700 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 5: Titus Howard, I'm gonna respect you. I'm trying to take 701 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 5: your spot. You know, he's gonna come in here and 702 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 5: say green whether they if they bump me down as 703 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 5: a guard. You know, I respect you, but I'm trying 704 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 5: to take your spot. And you want good players, like 705 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 5: you said, guys that jump out on screen on the 706 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 5: screen to be, you know, competing against one another. So 707 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 5: when they drafted him, I didn't know much about him, 708 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 5: but I knew I was gonna be talking to you, 709 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 5: so I was okay, good I could find out. But 710 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 5: I knew this wasn't a guy that, oh, let's draft 711 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 5: him to be a swing tackle. It's like, no, it's 712 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 5: a stir up. I think outside of Lammie Tunsel, everybody 713 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 5: out there should be fighting for a job. 714 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 4: I mean, heck, you look back. I mean shucks. When 715 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 4: Manchester was drafted, you know, I mean did we know 716 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 4: that we because we looking at suck. They got Tonabusel 717 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 4: in the room. You got Steve mckennie in the room, 718 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 4: Jeremy McKenny, who was you know, a long time NFL player, 719 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 4: Ryan Young. You know, we had guys like that in 720 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 4: the room. 721 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 2: Man. 722 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 4: You know opening day, you know, Manchester starting as rookies 723 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 4: and all that stuff. And that's the you know, mentality 724 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 4: that we came in with to you know, hey, we're 725 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 4: not just in just coming in here, no matter where 726 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 4: we were drafted and all that stuff. I mean, it's 727 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 4: business as usual. Let's go out here. And you know, 728 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 4: we worked our way through OTA, through many camps, through 729 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 4: OTAs and through training camp and you know, next thing, 730 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 4: you know, hey, we're starting day one. 731 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 5: It's kind of cool that you came into an organization 732 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 5: that hadn't played one game yet, but that's all you knew. 733 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 5: So I was gonna ask you, like, did it feel 734 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 5: like you were in a startup organization? 735 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 2: Nah? 736 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 4: I mean Texas and Texans have already been the first 737 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 4: class organization. We came in. We had a lot of 738 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 4: veteran leadership, Aaron Glenn, like I said, I mentioned Gary 739 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 4: Walker earlier. I mean had Tony Busel even though he 740 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 4: didn't get on the field and all that stuff, But 741 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 4: we were able to lean on those guys and everything 742 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 4: and stuff. I mean Billy Miller Man Man, it's a 743 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 4: Chris Brown. I mean, we had Eric Brown. I mean 744 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 4: we had a list of guys that have been Ryan 745 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 4: young Man, I can go down the list. We had 746 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 4: a a for rookie class coming in, We had a 747 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 4: we were surrounded by a lot of veteran leaders. Although 748 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 4: you know, hey, yes the Texans was in that first season, 749 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 4: in that locker room, it didn't feel that way. And 750 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 4: that's you know, I always go back to that, you know, 751 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 4: when people you know ask about you know, hey, maybe 752 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 4: the wins wasn't there, But you know, you can never 753 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 4: question that locker room. You can never question where we 754 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 4: went out there and played hard. You can never question 755 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 4: you know, any work ethic about you know, things in 756 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 4: the locker room were never at each other. Next in 757 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 4: the locker room because we came in with a lot 758 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 4: of veteran guys, and that you know, showed us a 759 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 4: lot of veteran leadership and all at that time. 760 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 5: You say, the wins weren't there, but there was a 761 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 5: huge win that resonated throughout the entire NFL. And it's 762 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 5: almost like these crazy historic events, like you remember where 763 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 5: you were when you heard about OJA. Well, I remember 764 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 5: where I was when I heard the Texans beat the 765 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys opening game. And we're sitting in the locker 766 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 5: room in Philadelphia and we're all looking around like, hey, man, 767 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 5: you see what them boys? So you were there on 768 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 5: the field just kind of talk about how special that was. 769 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 3: Man. 770 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 4: It was, man, it was very special. I mean it's 771 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 4: you know, a lot led up to that. I mean, 772 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 4: of course, we scrimmaged them. They came down here to Houston. 773 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 4: We practiced against them, you know during the preseason. I 774 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 4: mean during training camp. I think we were over at 775 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 4: I guess it was you of age, older field and 776 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 4: we you know, had the and they literally just you know, 777 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 4: they milly wapped us, you know what I mean. Well, 778 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 4: I wouldn't say during the week of practice, but that 779 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 4: scrimmage we had that night, it was just like we. 780 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 4: I mean, they were on like they were playing in 781 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, you know, you know what I mean. 782 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 4: I mean, again, you don't take any time you step 783 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 4: on that field, you don't take that for granted. But 784 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 4: you know, that scrimmage that night, they brought a little 785 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 4: bit more to the table. 786 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 2: I would say. 787 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 4: I mean I remember one play, I forget who the 788 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 4: defensive end was, but they ran an et stunt and 789 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 4: I'm talking about the defensive Endes literally just ear holed me. 790 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 4: And I mean it's just like okay, all right, and 791 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 4: you know we kind of picked ourselves up, you know, 792 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 4: as a as a football team and said that, you know, hey, 793 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 4: we can't compete with them. I mean because you know, 794 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 4: throughout the week of practice it was you know, it 795 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 4: was I mean it was just like what and what 796 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 4: and all and stuff and so but man, just man, 797 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 4: that first game, just the electricity in the building. I 798 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 4: think that really, you know, I mean we were coming 799 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 4: in that game pissed off from that, you know, from 800 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 4: that that that scrimmage and just the you know, things 801 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 4: that they were doing, and you know it was just 802 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 4: just their annex and all that stuff. I mean, you know, look, 803 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 4: hey we got some for that and all that stuff. 804 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 4: I mean, but the electricity that was in I mean, 805 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 4: you know, Sunday night football, I mean, it sucks. I 806 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 4: can't exactly remember how long you know, football hadn't been 807 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 4: in Houston before we played that game. Man, but the 808 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 4: fans brought just so much energy and all that stuff. Man, 809 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 4: that and it I think it elevated. It elevated all 810 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 4: of our play and all that stuff. And once we 811 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 4: got in there and you know, they were in our 812 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 4: house at that point and all that stuff, and it 813 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 4: really felt that way and all that night and so man, 814 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 4: it was just one of that that was a man, 815 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 4: that was It was great to get that w against 816 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 4: you know, America, a so called America's team that night 817 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 4: and everything and stuff. I mean, you know, I think 818 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 4: we kind of, you know, came out and made a statement, 819 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,240 Speaker 4: but it kind of started back, you know, when we 820 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 4: we worked out against them, you know, during training camp 821 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 4: and stuff. So you know, we kind of took you know, 822 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 4: that bad taste in our mouth and made sure we 823 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 4: took it to the field that that Sunday night. 824 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,839 Speaker 5: That's an awesome story. I didn't realize that y'all had 825 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 5: a chance to the dual practices during training camp and 826 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,760 Speaker 5: then that's kind of when they try to flex on y'all. 827 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 5: But when the game actually mattered, y'all said, okay, we've 828 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 5: got some So I know that's a special feeling. Would 829 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 5: would that game rank in your top five all time 830 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 5: as far as special victories school college? I know there's 831 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 5: a lot of them. Yeah, that make the top five, man, 832 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 5: definitely something I mean, just we went about doing it. 833 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,479 Speaker 5: Everything that built up to that moment, you know, being 834 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 5: the first you know, sucks. I mean, rookie start for me, 835 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 5: you know, I think, yes, that's that's definitely you know, 836 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 5: ranks ranks, ranks up there. I mean, of course, I mean, 837 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 5: you know, winning the national championship at University Tennessee is 838 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 5: always that was a special That's why I said top five. 839 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 5: There was a couple that were going to be ahead 840 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 5: of it. 841 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, I definitely give that that that moment 842 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 4: being the Cowboys, that that first game, man, that was 843 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 4: That's definitely number two. 844 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 5: Talk about because it's not every day you get a 845 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 5: chance to talk to a national champion, So just talk 846 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 5: about that season. It wasn't one of those special seasons. 847 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 5: Before the year started, you thought to yourself, you know what, 848 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 5: we might have something special here. What was that like? 849 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 5: The year? 850 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 2: First? 851 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 5: Give us the year I read it, but I want 852 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 5: to make sure I've been right and you know just 853 00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 5: what it was like. 854 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was ninety eight, you know, of course. I 855 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 4: mean I think sports media roar world had you know, 856 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 4: written Tennessee off after Peyton left and all this stuff, 857 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 4: had t Martin coming in as the new quarterback and 858 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 4: all that stuff. But you know, again, leadership in the 859 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,760 Speaker 4: locker room. I mean guys like Al Wilson, Jonathan Brown, 860 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:26,280 Speaker 4: Peerless Price. You know, we came in as freshly myself, 861 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 4: Jamal Lewis, Cozy Cole and Dia and Grant. So I 862 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 4: mean we again came with the mindset that we want 863 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 4: to work and be a part of something special and 864 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 4: all that stuff. 865 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 2: And that's what it was all about. 866 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 4: Just a commitment by the team, you know, just a team, 867 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 4: a collective team effort and all that stuff. So, man, 868 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 4: that was my what red shirt red shirt freshman year. 869 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 4: I was dealing with an injury. All that funny story 870 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 4: about that. I played all season long, all right, when 871 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,280 Speaker 4: I first got to Tennessee, I had a stress fracture 872 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 4: in my I guess, baby to a fifth met of 873 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 4: tarsl uh the stuff that I ended up you know, 874 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,240 Speaker 4: having surgery of putting the screw in and whatnot and stuff, 875 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 4: and you know, set out for half of the season 876 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 4: uh that year, and I ended up having coming back 877 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 4: probably I think we're getting ready to play old miss 878 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 4: one of the defensive tackles. My first day back out 879 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 4: a practice, No. One of the defensive tackles and started 880 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 4: defense tackle Billy Ratliffe. I ended up, you know, he 881 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 4: got hurt in practice and all that stuff. So initially 882 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 4: I was just supposed to come out there, you know, 883 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 4: kind of gradually, you know, start getting back in maybe 884 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 4: you know, a couple of weeks, we're going to you know, 885 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 4: get him, you know, maybe get him some reps and 886 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 4: get him back out on the field. And I'm over 887 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 4: there with the trainer. You know, we're just doing some 888 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 4: you know, just like jogging, getting off the football, working 889 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 4: with the trainer, and Billy Billy gets hurt and I 890 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 4: hear coach full stream across the field is Fred Ready? 891 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 4: So the trainer that's funny, Hey, this is a true story. 892 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 2: Man, is Fred Ready? I was like, whoa what is he? Ready. 893 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 4: It's my first day bag out of practice. But hey, 894 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 4: I knew the sins of urgency. I wasn't going to 895 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 4: say no. 896 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: That was a sampling of Texans Ogs with Ndy Kalu 897 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: and Fred Weary. You can listen to the whole thing 898 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: on Spotify, the Houston Texans dot com website, Texans app, 899 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: and also on YouTube if you want to see a 900 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: visual of this. Nick Cassario visual image of him available 901 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 1: this week on the Pat McAfee show. What did he 902 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: have to say to Pat? We'll have some cuts from 903 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: that coming up next on Texans All Access, Final Rendezvous 904 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 1: of the show, Down the Stretch we come again more 905 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: synonymous stuff for the final segment of the program here tonight, 906 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: Ed has promised Nick Cassio on the Pat McAfee show 907 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: some choice cuts from that. You've already heard the wrestling 908 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: stuff on Pain and Pendergast as you referenced Pain and 909 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 1: Pendergast in the interview, which was pretty cool for Sean 910 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: and Seth and everybody involved with Sports Radio six ten. 911 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 1: Here's Casario talking to McAfee about how he feels about 912 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: the Texans right now. 913 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 2: Where the team is. 914 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 6: You know, we feel we put ourselves in a position 915 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 6: to hopefully be competitive and build on some of the 916 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 6: things that we did last year. We also understand that 917 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 6: every years it's own entity. Every year is going to 918 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 6: be different, and I would say when you look around 919 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 6: the AFC South, you know, we're just trying to keep 920 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 6: pace with the competition. I think when you look at 921 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 6: you know what the Colts have done this offseason, thank 922 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 6: you a lot of respect for Chris and Shane the 923 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 6: team they put together. The Titans have done a good job. 924 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 6: They made some changes there, brought in coach Callahan. You know, 925 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 6: they drafted some good players, they signed some good players 926 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 6: in for agency, and then Jacksonville, I would say they are, 927 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 6: you know, kind of kept together what they had, especially offensively, 928 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 6: added a few key players. So the league changes every year, 929 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 6: and so our job is to try to do the 930 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 6: best we can, put the best team together and give 931 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 6: our an opportunity to compete. 932 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 2: The margins are very small in this league. 933 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 6: I mean, I think we were in nine or ten 934 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,839 Speaker 6: one score game, So nothing is guaranteed other than an opportunity. 935 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 6: So we're just trying to put together as good a 936 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 6: team as possible with the right people, have the right 937 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 6: mindset and give ourselves a chance on Sunday. 938 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: More from Nick Cassario on The Pat McAfee Show this week, 939 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 1: What if anything has changed about Demiko Ryan since Nick 940 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 1: Cassario and Demiko started working together about fifteen sixteen months ago. 941 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 6: Dimiko was just so consistent day to day. He has 942 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 6: his core philosophies and beliefs what's important to him, and 943 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,280 Speaker 6: the way he messages that to the team is so consistent. 944 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 6: Everybody understands what the expectation is on a day to 945 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 6: day basis. 946 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 2: I think I'm. 947 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 6: Certainly appreciative of the relationship that we've established here over 948 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 6: the last however many months. Has been Philosophically, we see 949 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 6: football through the same lens, so that helps as we're 950 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,360 Speaker 6: putting the team together. We espouse a lot of the 951 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 6: same philosophies and have a lot of the same core beliefs. 952 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,359 Speaker 6: So my job and my seat is just support him 953 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 6: as much as possible and do everything I can to 954 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,880 Speaker 6: give him an opportunity to be successful. But the players 955 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 6: respect the hell out of them because he's so real. 956 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 2: He's passionate about what he does. 957 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 6: He does with enthusiasm, and it's the same expectation that 958 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,839 Speaker 6: we have for the players as well. 959 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 2: He's got that massive smile. Oh what he's doing. 960 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 6: He loves what he's doing, which is it's important. It 961 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 6: absolutely makes a difference. The players feel that and they 962 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 6: see that. 963 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 2: All right. 964 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 1: Not to go radio audio nerd on you here, but McAfee. 965 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 1: You hear the sound of his voice in that cut. 966 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 1: He's using an electro voice Are twenty microphone and you 967 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 1: can see him using it when he does the show. 968 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 1: That microphone will make you sound like James Earl Jones. 969 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 1: In fact, I should get one of those for the games. Yes, Luke, 970 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 1: I am your father. Anyway, back to the Nick Casario 971 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 1: cuts on the Pat McAfee show, What is life like now? 972 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 1: Compared to when Nick got here in twenty twenty What 973 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 1: is it twenty twenty one? 974 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,320 Speaker 2: My gosh, time flies? 975 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 6: Even when I took over. I mean, I think the 976 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 6: goal was, let's just start to make some progress. And 977 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 6: we understand nothing's going to happen overnight. It's going to 978 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 6: take a lot of work and a lot of effort 979 00:45:58,480 --> 00:45:59,720 Speaker 6: from a number of different people. 980 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:00,800 Speaker 2: To be disciplined. 981 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 6: Quite frankly, you have to have a certain level of 982 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 6: mental toughness just to kind of push through to the 983 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 6: next thing and focus on what's ahead and not worry 984 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,360 Speaker 6: about what's happened in the past. So I was fortunate 985 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 6: to be in a great program for twenty years where 986 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 6: I think some of the things that I learned in 987 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 6: that building, hopefully we've been able to apply. You're never 988 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 6: guaranteed anything, and I think our vision, more than anything else, 989 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 6: was just to try to put a good, solid foundation 990 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 6: in place with the right people to give ourselves an 991 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 6: opportunity to compete on a consistent basis. And I think 992 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,839 Speaker 6: as we've kind of pieced it together kind of year 993 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,720 Speaker 6: by year and different players that have come through the building, 994 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,360 Speaker 6: I'd say obviously the hiring of Demiico was a key 995 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 6: part of this as well. I mean, I'm biased, but 996 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 6: he's one of the best coaches in the league period. 997 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 6: I don't think anybody could argue that. So I think 998 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 6: when you start to add some of those elements in place, 999 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 6: and then we've added a number of young players over 1000 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 6: the last few years, I mean, CJ and Will performed 1001 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 6: at a really high level. So you know, we're very 1002 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 6: fortunate and we're excited about what's in front of us, 1003 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,919 Speaker 6: but we also understand the challenges that are ahead, which 1004 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 6: are significant, and we're certainly not going to take anything 1005 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 6: for granted. 1006 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 1: There are some choice cuts from Nick Asario on the 1007 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 1: Pat McAfee show this week. 1008 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 2: Who's fired up for football? I know? I am big week? 1009 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 1: Next week the schedule is going to come out in 1010 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 1: all likelihoods, so we will ingest it together and react. 1011 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 2: Can't wait. 1012 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,359 Speaker 1: Go check out the app in Houston Texans dot com 1013 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 1: for all the podcast videos, every bit of information on 1014 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 1: your favorite football team. Area forty five coming up. They 1015 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 1: will dissect what is happening in sports this weekend and beyond. 1016 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,839 Speaker 1: Thank you Byron for producing. Have a great night, Go Texans.