1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to brain Stuff, a production of iHeart Radio. Hey 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: brain Stuff, Lauren Vogelbaum Here, pardon the personal question, but 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: have you noticed that you're going through rolls of toilet 4 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: paper faster than usual? There's a good reason for that. 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: A toilet paper rolls are shrinking. In the past couple 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: of years, major brands have reduced the number of individual 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: sheets on each toilet paper roll. The packages still contain 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: the same number of total rolls, but each role is slimmer. 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: Sharman's Mega roll shrunk by seven point a, Kirkland Signature's 10 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: rolls dropped by ten point and Angelsoft's Mega Roll plummeted 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: by reduction. However, the manufacturer said that it thickened the 12 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: sheets at the same time. So but while there are 13 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: fewer sheets per role, the price per role has remained 14 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: the same. Welcome to the infuriating world of shrink flation. 15 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: Shrink Flation is a simple economic concept. Inflation rates are 16 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: high around the world right now, which means manufacturers are 17 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: facing higher prices for raw materials, ingredients, packaging, shipping, and more. 18 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: To continue to make the same profit, companies have two options. 19 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: Either raise the price of their products or charge the 20 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: same price for less of the product. Brands know that 21 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: consumers are price sensitive, a meaning that they're likely to 22 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: notice when the price of a frequently purchased item like 23 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: toilet paper goes up. But what kind of consumer would 24 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: notice if their meta rolls of toilet paper were just 25 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: eight per thinner, especially if the packaging and branding were 26 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: otherwise unchanged. One Edgar dwarf Ski would notice a dwarf 27 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: Sky is a consumer lawyer and the genius behind the 28 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: consumer advocacy websites consumer World and mouseprint dot org, where 29 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: he maintains a long list of products that have fallen 30 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: victim to shrink flation. For the articles episodes based on 31 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: hos to work spoke with him. He's been tracking shrink 32 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 1: flation for decades, but says that there was a rash 33 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: of products that shrunk due to manufacturers grappling with record 34 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: high inflation. Recently, the CEO of Kellogg claimed that when 35 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: his company makes a product smaller, they also lower the price, 36 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: but dwarf Sky has identified hundreds of examples of brands, 37 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: including Kellogg's Keebler line of cookies, charging the same or 38 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: more for smaller products. Dwarsky said no company would go 39 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: through the increased cost of retooling their manufacturing plant and 40 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: redesigning the package. If they just didn't exact proportional drop 41 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: in the number of ounces in the price, it doesn't 42 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: make financial sense. Some product categories are much more likely 43 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: to fall victim to shrink flation. These include paper goods 44 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: like toilet paper, paper, towels and tissues, as snack foods 45 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: like chips, crackers and cookies, breakfast cereals, and cleaning liquid 46 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: and shower products like dish soap, shampoo, and moisturizer. According 47 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: to a poll by Gardner from June, of American consumers 48 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: said that they'd stop buying a brand that implemented shrink 49 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: flation to cut costs. If that's true, then brands across 50 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: the board might want to watch out. For example, Arm 51 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: and Hammer laundry detergent shrunk from seventy to sixty seven 52 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: and a half ounces while still promising fifty loads of laundry. 53 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: A Quaker instant oatmeal quietly reduced its boxes from ten 54 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: packets of oatmeal to just eight, reduction for the same price. 55 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: The Folders Instant coffee shrunk from fifty one to forty 56 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: three and a half ounces, while still advertising up to 57 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: four hundred cups of coffee per container, Gatorade, which is 58 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: always come in thirty two ounces, that's one Court Bottles 59 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: introduced a new bottle with a tapered at all that's 60 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: only twenty eight ounces for the same price. And Briar's 61 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: ice Cream, like many other ice cream brands, hasn't sold 62 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: a proper half gallon or sixty four ounce container in years, 63 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: but Briar's is now sold in forty eight ounce containers, 64 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: which is just a court and a half of product 65 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: that's less than the original. If all this is starting 66 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: to give you a headache, it won't help that will 67 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: Leave is now selling ninety pills per bottle instead of 68 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: a hundred, and General Mills shrunk its entire line of 69 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: family size breakfast cereals and packaged them in slimmer boxes. 70 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: Dworsky said, frankly, I don't know how some of those 71 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: cereal boxes on the store shelves even stand up anymore. 72 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: There's almost no footprint. However, he also pointed out that 73 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: it takes a very specific type of consumer to spot 74 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: shrink flation, because manufacturers aren't going to advertise that fact. 75 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: Now slightly smaller, he said, the only way to know 76 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: if your product has shrunk is to know the size 77 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: of the products you buy regularly, and to double check 78 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: when you go to the store. And it doesn't help 79 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: that brands are doing everything in their power to divert 80 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: consumer attention away from a product's actual net weight or 81 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: sheet count. And not only do old and new packages 82 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: look almost identical, but they employ marketing terms like family 83 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: size and mega size that don't have any real meaning. 84 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: If you notice that your favorite product is shrinking, your 85 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: only real option is to compare its price with competitors, 86 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: including store brands. To do that, don't look at the 87 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: retail price because even competing products come in different sizes. 88 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: A Dwarsky says that you need to look for the 89 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: unit price, which is the price per ounce or pound 90 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: or gallon. That's the only way to make an apples 91 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: to Apple's price comparison. As a general rule, though, store brands, 92 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: that is, generic brands are the last ones to downsize, 93 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: and their qualities usually just as good as the store brands, 94 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: so it can be great substitutes. And Dwarski said to 95 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: watch out for words like new and improved on a 96 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: package label. This might just be a tip off that 97 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: the packaging has changed or the product amount is less, 98 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: rather than any real improvements being made, but in rare cases, 99 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: a downsized product will upsize again. A Costco shoppers were 100 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: so upset that Kirkland's signature brand paper towels shrunk from 101 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: a hundred and sixty sheets per roll to a hundred 102 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: and forty sheets that the company quietly restored the towel 103 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: rolls to a hundred and sixty sheets or one for 104 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: the consumer. Today's episode is based on the article why 105 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: shrink flation has you paying more for less on how 106 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,559 Speaker 1: stuff works dot Com, written by Dave Roose. 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