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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature future production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host

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Speaker 1: of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology,

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Speaker 1: and today on the show we are talking about aeroplankton.

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Speaker 1: That's right, there's life all around us. We are breathing

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Speaker 1: it in, don't cough it out. It's probably fine. From

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Speaker 1: tiny animals to bacteria to who knows what. There are

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Speaker 1: so many little guys just floating on the wind, surprisingly

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Speaker 1: sometimes on purpose. Discover this and more as we answer

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Speaker 1: the age old question, isn't raining viruses? And do you

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Speaker 1: need an umbrella? Joining me today is friend of the show,

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Speaker 1: my good old buddy, writer for American Dad, Sora and

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Speaker 1: wait No, also co host of Quick Question with Soren

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Speaker 1: and Daniel or Daniel and Sorn. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: sorry and Daniel ddice, she got first? You got first?

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Speaker 1: Is that an argument? No?

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Speaker 2: In fact, Daniel gave that up. It was Daniel's idea

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Speaker 2: because Daniel will always pitch it that way as the

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Speaker 2: other person in the hopes that the other person says no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: no no no.

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Speaker 1: She should have known better. But yeah, your name is

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Speaker 1: Soran Booy. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. It's a pleasure to be

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Speaker 2: here again. Oh to stretch my legs in the world

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Speaker 2: of the floor and fauna feels good.

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Speaker 1: Feels good to be back getting all those floor in fauna,

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Speaker 1: you know, uh, stretching your legs and that that makes

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Speaker 1: total sense.

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Speaker 2: I just put them on, put them on, get slip

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Speaker 2: into something more comfortable, like a megafauna, like a moose. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I imagine comfortable b to be in a moose. You'd

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Speaker 2: have so much room.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, just kind of like you know, I guess

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Speaker 1: you have to slice that sucker open like a ton ton,

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Speaker 1: but imagine how warm would be in there.

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Speaker 2: Now, are you? I assume that when you started this podcast,

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Speaker 2: like the first things you did were the megafauna, like

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Speaker 2: those were all the ones. Those are like the fun

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Speaker 2: animals to talk.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Actually, you know what sort of

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Speaker 1: I think one of the first ones I talked about

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Speaker 1: was a parasite, uh, the Tia gandhia because it was

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Speaker 1: so interesting. I mean, I love a parasite like that's

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Speaker 1: they're my favorites because they're so sneaky, uh, and they

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Speaker 1: do so they're like they're pranksters, they're they love fun pranks,

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Speaker 1: like making a rat fall in love with a cat urine.

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Speaker 1: That's like a fun.

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Speaker 2: Prank attracted the cats.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like theyry.

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Speaker 2: The cats look very sexy too.

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Speaker 1: They're turned on by the smell of cat urine. And

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's that is a sick joke, and

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Speaker 1: I'm and I'm all for sick jokes.

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Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, I I I never picked.

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Speaker 2: When you say do you want to call on the

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Speaker 2: podcasts or anything you want to talk about I I'm like,

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Speaker 2: what are the things that I'm very interested in? And

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Speaker 2: I always scratch like all the big animals off the

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Speaker 2: list because I'm like, no, she's probably she's probably like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I know what we'll do Area plank did We'll do it.

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Speaker 1: It's perfect. I love this topic so much. I'm so

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Speaker 1: happy you suggested it. I actually, you know what I

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Speaker 1: would this If you suggested something like let's do whales,

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Speaker 1: I would panic because honestly, whales are not very well

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Speaker 1: studied and there's so many things that we don't know

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Speaker 1: about them, and I personally am you know, It's like

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Speaker 1: when I try to research whales, like how do they mate?

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Speaker 1: And it's like, we don't know you think we know that,

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Speaker 1: we don't know that.

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Speaker 2: It's mystery, it's none of our business.

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Speaker 1: We're business. Uh so yeah, no, this is this is

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Speaker 1: very cool. So we're talking about aeroplankton. So aeroplankton is

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Speaker 1: it's basically just stuff that uses instead of oceanic currents,

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Speaker 1: it uses wind currents to get around. So we all

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Speaker 1: we all know and love oceanic plankton. They're tiny micro organism,

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Speaker 1: including both zooplankton like coral larva or even like crab

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Speaker 1: or fish larva. Those count as a zooplankton. There's also

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Speaker 1: phytoplankton like tiny algae. These are like diatoms, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: all things that count as plankton. They're using oceanic currents

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Speaker 1: to travel, and so skyplankton aeroplankton is basically the same.

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Speaker 1: These are little, teeny tiny things that use the currents

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Speaker 1: It is really interesting because like oceanic plankton is a

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Speaker 2: That's almost exciting about I'm excited forout Like spiders that

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Speaker 2: end up in the stratosphere.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's interesting they do, but they are

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Speaker 2: They're supposed to be there.

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Speaker 1: They're supposed to be there often. So, yeah, aeroplankton, there

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Speaker 1: are microorganisms that live in the air, well, not live

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Speaker 1: air from clouds to wind currents. H And just like

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Speaker 1: oceanic plankton, there are animal organisms. There's plants, fungi, unicellular organisms,

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Speaker 1: and prokaryotic organisms that make up aeroplankton. I Actually, so

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Speaker 1: this is kind of exciting timing because I recently recorded

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Speaker 1: a podcast with Alex Schmidt. It's a podcast called Secretly

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Speaker 1: Incredibly Fascinating. We talked about clouds, and Alex just yeah,

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Speaker 1: he taught me all about clouds, uh. And he told

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Speaker 1: me about how like clouds are formed usually by like

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Speaker 1: a seed. It's like a little mote of something. It

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Speaker 1: could be silica, like a piece of sand, but it's

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Speaker 1: like these little microscopic seeds and then cloud sort of

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Speaker 1: water droplet forms around it. It's like the nucleus of

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Speaker 1: the cloud. Yeah, so like the cloud has all these

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Speaker 1: little nuclei, but this thing exactly. But these little, these

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Speaker 1: little microscopic bits of stuff can often be things like microorganisms.

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Speaker 1: They can be dead or alive bacteria, microorganisms, algae that

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Speaker 1: also form these nuclei and clouds. So that's really cool.

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Speaker 1: Clouds can have a bunch of like dead or alive

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Speaker 1: microorganisms that actually help the cloud form.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that I did not know that that Every cloud. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: every cloud is built around something that was once on

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Speaker 1: Pretty much. Pretty No, that's I mean, that's accurate. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm not going to talk anymore. Well maybe a

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Speaker 1: little bit, but not much more about cloud So if

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Speaker 1: you want to learn all about the clouds, you can

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Speaker 1: check out Secretly Incredibly Fascinating. I host it with Alex Schmid.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever have Alex Schmidt on this podcast? I do, Yes, Okay,

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Speaker 2: A really fun bit would be would be to only

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Speaker 2: let him talk about clams every time he comes over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what is disclams. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: we have talked about clams. I should do that. He's

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Speaker 1: going to do that. Don't tell him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, insist on it. And ever since time, like we

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Speaker 2: just got to go back to malus. I'm so sorry

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Speaker 2: because molis is like wide ranging because it goes all

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Speaker 2: the way from clams to octopy.

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Speaker 1: So like he actually does not like he does not

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Speaker 1: he see life upsets him. He has a slight fear

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Speaker 1: of aquatic animals. So perfect, yeah? Perfect? Uh So who

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Who who is this stuff? I do? First want to

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Speaker 1: talk about maybe the most famous of the arrow planktonic members, pollen,

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Speaker 1: which I think right now everyone hates, or at least

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Speaker 1: everyone with allergies hates. I also have. I actually never

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm on them.

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Speaker 1: I am currently high on some kind of yani histamine.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you can be, but you know

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Speaker 1: like a train every year. Yeah. And I've heard like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get them pretty badly. I didn't when I

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Speaker 2: always like, ah, sex with you. Yeah, and then as

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Speaker 2: I got older, my immune system just changed. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: try this bee pollen, which is like not the honey.

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Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know how they're collecting it, and

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Speaker 1: Oh you mean, how are the humans collecting it? Baskets

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Speaker 2: my basket. I I tried that. I tried taking take

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Speaker 1: That's yeah. I had b pollen chocolate bar once. It

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Speaker 1: I'll be all about it. I'm like, yeah, this honey

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm drinking it. Like don't like they're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know red wine, you know does something positive. It's

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Speaker 1: like great. I won't listen to any other news or

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Speaker 1: study about it. No more. Yeah. So pollen, they are

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Speaker 1: they count as aeroplankton as a bio aerosol. They are

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Speaker 1: microscopic grains that contain male sperm cells of plants. That's right,

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Speaker 1: plants are having sex. Get over it. So they are

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Speaker 1: part of a plant sexual reproduction cycle, and they need

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it turns out my new system it's just very prude.

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Speaker 1: It's very it's it's very puritan. Yeah, it's like, get

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Speaker 1: this out of here. Yeah, get this sky stauge away

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Speaker 1: sponge on my own show, but we'll see. So. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They plants can accomplish pollination through highly effective and precise

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Speaker 1: less precise and more promiscuous method of just blasting it

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Speaker 1: out into the air and hoping it lands where it

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Speaker 1: needs to go. I mean, I say, how are babies made?

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Speaker 1: are the plants that typically are behind seasonal allergies. So

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Speaker 1: they're pollen is designed to be bountiful and travel by air.

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Speaker 1: Like have you ever like bated a pine branch and

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Speaker 2: So it's called ballooning.

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Speaker 2: mentality she loves. She believes that everybody should be grinding

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00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 2: at all times.

432
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a I have a grind set for sure,

433
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 1: where it's like, if you're not, if you don't have

434
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: five jobs going all at once, what are you why?

435
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 1: What are you even doing?

436
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 2: You're just a bird on a smokestack.

437
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: Man. If you're not generating multiple revenues of bitcoin, ape,

438
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: ape coin, whatever, whatever, the newest thing is all my

439
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: apes gone. But I told him that what they should

440
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: build is like a bird trebuche, so like kind of

441
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: like a springboard, so that every time a bird tries

442
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: to land there, it triggers like a mechanism that flings

443
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: the bird back into the.

444
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: Air, ye back up there.

445
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: He didn't seem to take that suggestion seriously, but I

446
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: think it might actually help. Uh so, uh, you know,

447
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: I'll keep trying to petition and sort of a workshop

448
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: the bird Flinger invention to save storm petrels from their

449
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: own desire to be cozy. So we're gonna oh wait, no,

450
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: there's one more thing about spiders I wanted to tell

451
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: you about. It's not just wind that actually helps baby

452
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: spiders travel by silk butt parachutes. So there are actually

453
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: electric fields that may be aiding these spiders. In laboratory settings,

454
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: they were able to generate electrics, and not only did

455
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: that seem to trigger spider ballooning behavior, these electric fields

456
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: could actually lift these tiny, itty bitty spiders up. And

457
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 1: so this sort of laboratory experiment seems to indicate that

458
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: in nature's my spiders may be able to travel by

459
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: the Earth's electromagnetic fields. So that's neat.

460
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: WHOA, Yeah, they're using like magnets essentially.

461
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: To fly through the air electric fields.

462
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't understand what that means.

463
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: Well, there are electrostatic forces that Okay, so there's a

464
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: different podcast that I'm on called Daniel Njorge Explains the Ears.

465
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm just sort of like making it

466
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: other people's problems to explain these things. Now, I do

467
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: a guest host on that one, Daniel Lightsen. He understands

468
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: things like electric static forces much better than I do.

469
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: But it's you know, it's like how uh gosh, It's

470
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: it's like magnetism, but it's electromagnetism.

471
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 2: Okay for me, You know how a balloon.

472
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: Sticks to your head if if you rub it there

473
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: a lot. Yes, is like that, but with a tiny

474
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: spider in his little butt silk parachute, and it's.

475
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 2: Just electromagnetism that's in the air.

476
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: Yes, because the Earth has electric fields generated by.

477
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: The Yes, Okay, I'll accept that as an answer, thank you.

478
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: Does it can? But do electromagnetic fields travel or do

479
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: they just sort of stay stationary you just sort of

480
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: wait for the Earth to turn underneath you these dumb questions.

481
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: No, they're not dumb questions. I just may not be

482
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: able to completely answer. Yes, I think there are electrical

483
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: currents that do move around the Earth. I think also

484
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: it's like there's probably a number of things that are

485
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: happening right like where the spider there may be some

486
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: kind of like difference in the strength of the electrical current,

487
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: like the higher you get up, right, so maybe it

488
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: can carry the spider up. I am reaching the limits

489
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: of my knowledge because we're talking about electricity. I routinely

490
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: shocked myself unplugging my laptops, so I'm not an expert,

491
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: but I would guess it is something. It's probably something

492
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: to do with, you know how, like lightning. Happens because

493
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: there is this difference in terms of the like electrostatic

494
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: you know, balance between like the clouds and the ground.

495
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: You know, I would imagine that you could probably lift

496
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: something up, like a tiny spider based on the sort

497
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: of like there there is a difference in the density

498
00:29:55,080 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: of ions up in thesphere. Ions there you go. It's

499
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: all snapping into place because of the ions. You just

500
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: forgot about the ions. But you know, the charge, the charge,

501
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: it's the difference in charge, and they're probably riding that

502
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: sick charge differential wave. Definitely check out uh physics podcasts

503
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: like Daniel Jorge Explain the Universe if you want to

504
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: learn more about electric magnetic currents, because you know, I'm

505
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: going to tell you stuff that's maybe not exactly right.

506
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: It is fun though, It's like it's like jazz. It's

507
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: about the things you don't learn. Yeah, all right, Well

508
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: we're going to take another quick break, but then when

509
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: we get back, we're going to talk about other things

510
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: that are floating around there that you can't even see,

511
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: but they're all around you, watching you at every hour

512
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: of the day. There's nothing you can do about it.

513
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: I'll be right back, all right, we're back. We're talking

514
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: about more stuff that's just around in the air, traveling

515
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: in the clouds, in the air currents, and there's you know,

516
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: you just kind of have to accept it.

517
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 2: Well, I when I talk to you about this podcast

518
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: and what we were going to be talking about, I

519
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: asked you a very specific question, and I'm curious if

520
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: you buy the answer you're going to be answered to

521
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: answer for me.

522
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to say probably not how many, because I

523
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: think your question was like how much stuff is above

524
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: me right now?

525
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 2: I want to specifically like, yeah, any animals that I

526
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: don't care about, the ones that fly, I don't care

527
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: about the ones that have like a way to get

528
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 2: from A to B. I mean the ones that like

529
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: either get picked up accidentally or are just riding the currents.

530
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: How many, say, like spiders and small animals are right

531
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 2: over my head right now?

532
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: So sorry, I could not find an official answer to this.

533
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: I did look count I Well, this is what I'm

534
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: gonna say. Let's say there is like there's a Soren's

535
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: head shaped column that goes from the top of your

536
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: head up until outer space, right and we're are we

537
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: counting bacteria or just animals?

538
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: I just want animals. Bacteria. I assume bacteria is I

539
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 2: assume there I am surrounded at all.

540
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: Times by millions bacteria envirus millions. Uh. If it's just animals,

541
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say my estimate would be hundreds of thousands.

542
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: So if this, like if this came down, if this

543
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: like rained down on you in like a column of stuff, yeah,

544
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: probably probably thousands to hundreds of thousands.

545
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, like ten.

546
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: It's probably more than that because okay, so uh and

547
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: and if we're including like bacteria and viruses, it's more

548
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: than you'd like for sure.

549
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean I assume I'm ratio wise, I'm

550
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: more bacteria than man.

551
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: That's true.

552
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: My bacteria out number myselves like ten to one or

553
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: something like that. So bacteria, I've just I've made my

554
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: peace with bacteria. Yeah, that is the world is more

555
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: bacteria than anything else. And what I'm really what I

556
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: what really startles me is, yeah, I'm doing that column.

557
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 2: It's just me and like a vacuum, and then all

558
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: of a sudden, I'm going to create extra gravitational pull

559
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: on every single one of those animals. It's in the air,

560
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: and they all come down on me.

561
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: I mean they're very tiny, so you probably get like

562
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: a look again, this is coming out of my butt University,

563
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: Katie's but University, which is an accredited online university that

564
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: you can sign up for ninety nine a month. But

565
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: I would say, be a maybe like a thickish film,

566
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: like you wouldn't die, but it'd be a film, a

567
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: thick film, That's what I was.

568
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's still pretty pretty substantial.

569
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: Well, so the kinds of animals that can be wind

570
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: borne includes rotifers, columbulans, tartar grades, mites, thrips, and nematods.

571
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: So I know two of those things.

572
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: I know.

573
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 2: Those are two nematods and tartar grades.

574
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: Good job, what are they? Soren poplin toads.

575
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: Okay, nematodes are there are flatworms, nematodes, roundworms. Roundworms are nematodes. Yes, okay,

576
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: all right.

577
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: You got the flats, you got the rounds, you got

578
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 1: the square worms.

579
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 2: And the tartar grades are like very microscopic looking. They

580
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: kind of almost look like beetles.

581
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, they're the chubby ones. They're also called moss

582
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: piglets or water bears. They have eight legs and they

583
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: they kind of look like chubby cattog pillars, but with

584
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: very stubby eight legs.

585
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they survive super well in space.

586
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: Yes they I mean, I wouldn't say super well, but

587
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 1: they better better than us, much better than us. They

588
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: can survive desiccation, extreme temperatures both hot and cold, and

589
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: so yes, they are very hearty. It's not much of

590
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: a surprise that they can survive a little bit of

591
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: wind travel. And they're teeny tiny, their microscopic and yes,

592
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: absolutely so. And nematodes are round worms. They range in size,

593
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: but many species are microscopic or very very tiny, and

594
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: they're found all over the world, and unsurprisingly, they can

595
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: take advantage of wind currents to distribute themselves. They are

596
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: often parasitic, but not necessarily parasitic. But they are so

597
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: ubiquitous that there are like sixty billion nematodes per human being,

598
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: and it is unfathomable what the world would be like

599
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: without them, just because there are so many of them

600
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: that they are very likely to be an integral part

601
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: of every ecosystem. I saw this really sickening description of

602
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: nema toads where it was like if we took away

603
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: everything that wasn't Nema toad there would still just be

604
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: sort of like a ghost of everything made out of

605
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: Nema toads, which I think is also largely true of

606
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: like bacteria.

607
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: So are they in my drinking water? Like if I

608
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 2: could get a microscope and like look at my drinking water,

609
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: what I see little worms rather than around?

610
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: Potentially, Yes, I mean that can actually be a problem.

611
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: I think that it depends on sort of the level

612
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: of purification of your drinking water. Obviously there's drinking water

613
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 1: that can like you know, like if the tap water

614
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: is not that clean, it can make you sick, and

615
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: Nema toads can be behind that. But like you know,

616
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: I think that if you have like water does go

617
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: through sort of water sanitation, that probably kills most of

618
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: the nematodes off. But you know, there could be some

619
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 1: dead ones in there.

620
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: I don't My goal is not to kill them. I

621
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: just want to sterilize them. I want like spade and

622
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 2: neuter them.

623
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: Oh you mean, like you know, Bob Barker, but for nematodes, right.

624
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: Don't forget the spade. Neuter your nematodes. Thank you for watching,

625
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: just because that's that's the issue, right, is like them

626
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 2: breeding inside you. The nema toad itself by on its own.

627
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, not doing much to me, right, Yeah, So like you,

628
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: I think you could probably find some microscopic nematodes in

629
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: your drinking water that are probably not doing anything, and

630
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: they might you might drink them up, and it's probably okay, okay,

631
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: So don't worry about it, don't think about it.

632
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: And there's just a bunch floating right on my head

633
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: at this moment. Yeah, well I'm inside. I'm inside, so

634
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: it's different. But like walking around outside.

635
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: There's probably a lot. Yeah, Like if you walk on

636
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: the ground, there's a lot. If your head brushes against

637
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: a leaf, probably gonna smear them on you. You know,

638
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: there's just a lot of nematodes around, and yeah, they

639
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: are probably in your drinking water. They probably aren't hurting you,

640
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: uh if bacteria, like I think often like the problem

641
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: with a lot of nematodes, the non parasitic nematodes is

642
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: if they have uh like bacteria on them, which is

643
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: also harmful to humans. But again that's not very likely.

644
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: Intreated drinking water, which might kill a lot of the nematodes,

645
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: but a lot of them are probably still alive and

646
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: hanging out and just then you drink them and they

647
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: hang out in your body and they don't do anything,

648
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: and it's you know, just don't worry about it.

649
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: Making piece of it right now.

650
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you've got much grosser looking stuff everywhere.

651
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: I don't mean this personally against you, so are I'm

652
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: just saying, you know, like you can't.

653
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: See where I'm recording right now, we are watching each

654
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: other on video. That is a little hurtful.

655
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: It is, guys. When I was saying the film it

656
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: was not a hypothetical.

657
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 2: No, I am recording out of a garage where there

658
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 2: is not a single flat surface.

659
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got a couple of cardboard boxes there.

660
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: It's probably full of stuff nematodes, sorry, keeping nematodes. So

661
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: uh yeah. They are also something that can be carried

662
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: around and distributed by the wind. And they're the like

663
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 1: research where they surveyed sort of like samples of stuff

664
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: collected by like rain water and stuff. And yeah, nematodes

665
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: just they get around that way. They're tiny. What do

666
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: you want They like to use the wind to get around.

667
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: There are other things that I had listed there that

668
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: may be less recognizable, like rotifers, columbulands. I mean mites

669
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: and thrips. You may have heard of.

670
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: I know, mites, not thrips. That's new to me.

671
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, So mites are they're tiny ratnets. They've got eight legs.

672
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: You might have seen like velvet mites. These like tiny

673
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: red mites. Mites can be parasitic. They often are, but

674
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 1: they don't have to be. They are not necessarily parasites.

675
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: And yeah, those can get picked up by wind and

676
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: carried around and it's not you know, sometimes that might

677
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: be beneficial to the mites to distribute them, and sometimes

678
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: could just be confusing. So the other ones I mentioned

679
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: rotifers are actually typically zooplankton that inhabit freshwater habitats. They

680
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: can be found in saltwater, but most of the species

681
00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: are in freshwater. They're also known as wheel animals. They

682
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 1: are called wheel animals because their mouth kind of looks

683
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: like a spinning wheel. It doesn't actually spin, but it

684
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: has these cilia that kind of undulate in a pattern

685
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: that makes it look like it's spinning. It's kind of

686
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: an optical illusion. Let me see if I can. I

687
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: doubt maybe I should have looked this up before, but

688
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: I want to see if there's a gift of it. Man,

689
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: have you noticed that it's like really hard to just

690
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: find good. Yeah, like everything takes you to another thing. Yes,

691
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: that's full of skaties, googles. Google's broken, It's broken, Okay,

692
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: send it to you. So're in the human.

693
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: Oh they got chainsaws on the front of them. Yeah, right,

694
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: just spin and spin. Yeah, it looks like a heart.

695
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 1: Hmmm, no, but you know close enough, I don't.

696
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just something like beating inside of it.

697
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's got tiny organs for sure. That

698
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: is probably not like that thing that's moving. I would

699
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: guess it's some kind of like food distribution.

700
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, thing that's the tube within the tube.

701
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: It's a tube inside of the tube sort of smooshing

702
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: stuff down deeper into the tube. So but yeah, the Yeah,

703
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: you can see why it's called an wheel animal because

704
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: it looks like it has these two wheels that are

705
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: like spinning on its head. But yeah, really, it's just

706
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: the cilia are like moving in sort of a wave

707
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: and that makes it look like it's spinning, and that's

708
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: how they collect food.

709
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 2: It looks like, I mean, this is a tangent as well,

710
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: and it probably not super helpful for on audio podcast,

711
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 2: but we're not.

712
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: Trying to We're not trying to be helpful here.

713
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: In this gift. There's also something that starts out at

714
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 2: looking like an egg and then transforms into a worm

715
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: up in the corner, and I want to know what

716
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: that thing is too. It's just like, oh, no, I

717
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: could do whatever shape I want.

718
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what that is.

719
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 2: Man, No, I'm a chili pepper.

720
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes small stuff just does weird things. You can quote

721
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 1: me on that. Sometimes small stuff it just does weird things.

722
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, so that's those guys get picked up, you know,

723
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: in evaporation cycles by winds, and they wind up in

724
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: the air and they're probably super confused because they are

725
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: not supposed to be in there. They're supposed to be

726
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: a fresh water going around. It's been in their little

727
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: face wheels.

728
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 2: I like those wheels.

729
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: I like them too. It's like I feel like there's

730
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: a specific tool that is used. I'm gonna say in

731
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: woodworking where it's like or maybe it's dentistry. Look, I

732
00:43:55,719 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: have two successful side businesses, Katie's Backyard Dentistry in Katie's

733
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: Backyard Carpentry, and I get them confused sometimes, but yeah,

734
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: it's like it's like it just it does look like

735
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: a power tool, an organic power tool.

736
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

737
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: So, uh yeah they are. They're one of these uh

738
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 1: air aeroplankton uh columbu colum Boland's, also known as springtails,

739
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: are a type of teeny, tiny, indy beaty hexapod that

740
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: like moist conditions and feeding onto king matter. In fact,

741
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: one type of these springtails is the snow flea, which

742
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: I thought, I'm trying to remember. I thought that you

743
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: were on the show when we talked about snow fleas

744
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: or was it ice worms?

745
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 2: We talked about ice worms.

746
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: Damn it.

747
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 2: Wow, snowflea sounds cool though snow snow.

748
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: It's tiny and little and lives in the snow. Yes,

749
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: so they are uh yeah, these little springtails they can

750
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: of can kind of jump around it and there's they

751
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: can get so tiny that they can get picked up

752
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: by the wind and carried around. Yes. And then thrips

753
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: are tiny insects that are under a millimeter long that

754
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: can be winged or wingless. Now, I think earlier I

755
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: talked about how like we don't generally classify winged insects

756
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: as aeroplankton, but The thing is they suck at flying,

757
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: so like their wings are pretty useless over long distances.

758
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: They actually have a specific way of flying that's called

759
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: clap and fling, which like they clap their wings together.

760
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,479
Speaker 1: It generates these little wind vorgicias that kind of gives

761
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: them some lift, but it is not very efficient, not

762
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: very good over distances. So to travel long distances, they

763
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: depend on wind currents, so they count.

764
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 2: It's just to get them up there. Yeah, yeah, I like,

765
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I really like that type of animal, the

766
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 2: animals that like they they kind of can fly, but

767
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 2: really it's everything's dictated by mother nature.

768
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: Doesn't really count, you know, yeah, exactly.

769
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 2: My butterflies, I feel like, are the same. Like you

770
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: put butterfly in a vacuum, it can fly straight. But

771
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: the butterflies in your everyday life look like they're drunk

772
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: because they're just being like they are being thrown around.

773
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh it is they. I I do love that

774
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: and I think that, like it'd be interesting though to see,

775
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: like if you get a butterfly drunk, does it fly good?

776
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 2: Yeah? Is it better?

777
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: Is it better? They they like zip in nectar. They've

778
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 1: got to sometimes sip nectar that's a little fermented. It

779
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 1: probably just kills them, though, it probably just instantly kills.

780
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, everything kills butterflies.

781
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you breathe funny and it just butterflies.

782
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: Like, oh no, am my scales, my scales.

783
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. I once hit a small butterfly with a hose

784
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, and I thought I killed it.

785
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: I picked it up, I put it on like a

786
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: paper towel. I guess that dried it out, and it

787
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: flew away, and it was such a good feeling that like,

788
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: I kind of tried to hit another butterfly with a

789
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: hose so I could just like be its savior again.

790
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 1: And then I had this realization as I was doing it,

791
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: like this might be wrong. So I didn't end up.

792
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: I didn't end up as like Kathy Baits in Misery

793
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 1: or what's her name, But I almost developed a munch

794
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: housing by butterfly proxy.

795
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. I had a very simle experience where I would

796
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,479
Speaker 2: My brother had taught me that you can revive a fly,

797
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 2: round a fly and then put it in a pile

798
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: of sugar. You can revive a fly, but it's never

799
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 2: really the same.

800
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: How do you know it's not the same, Like it's

801
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 1: like personality.

802
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mountain sugar is like pet cemetery for a fly,

803
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: like it'll come back, but it's like it's a weird version.

804
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: Used to do that.

805
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 2: And I do remember like catching house lies in the

806
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 2: in the house and like how much they didn't want

807
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: to be caught, and thinking that's probably fair, but I

808
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 2: don't think i'd want this.

809
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like this. It's like this because I think

810
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: a lot of children go through that experimentation phase of

811
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: like doing weird stuffed insects, and then it's like and

812
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: then you get to a point where you're like, like

813
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,479
Speaker 1: I remember putting an ant on some ice to see

814
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: if it could ice skate, and it was just flopping

815
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: around helplessly. I was like, maybe that sucks for the ant.

816
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,959
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm a cruel god.

817
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 2: Right right before you move on to mammals, yeah, and

818
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: your serial killer people.

819
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: I think most children stop before mammals. I certainly I

820
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: certainly stopped at ants and butterflies, and then I was like,

821
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: you know, I feel bad about this, I'm gonna stop. Yeah.

822
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 2: So there's like that moment, that flickering.

823
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: That realization. It's like, what is this feeling? Is it empathy. Empathy.

824
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we would take ants and put them in

825
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 2: a dish with water, and then we would jump on

826
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 2: the trail like get on Tramplin where there's a lot

827
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 2: of static electromagnetic currents, and then we would put a

828
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: finger in the dish and then touch a spring on

829
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: the trampoline and just get that shock. And as soon

830
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 2: as they went to the water, because the ants are

831
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 2: writhing around the water because they're dying, they're they're they

832
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: just they'll stop moving and then they come back in

833
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 2: a little bit and they keep moving. But that shock

834
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 2: really puts them out for a minute.

835
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 1: I mean that is very cool, you know, pretty dark. Look,

836
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: you know what like ants, I don't a lot of them.

837
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,720
Speaker 1: There's a lot of them. I don't. I don't relish

838
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: killing them, but I'm not going to pretend like I

839
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: don't eat chicken and a fish. So you know, and

840
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: ants and ants, I have tried them. They have a

841
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: nice peppery flavor.

842
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: So the ones you get, I think, what the ones

843
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 2: some type of ants you get?

844
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 1: You mean, like they only serve you the peppery ones,

845
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: like there's other ones. It just tastes like ass that

846
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: they don't they don't they.

847
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 2: When they when the restaurant orders their ants, I see

848
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: go through and they set out the ones that are

849
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: peppery because they're just not good.

850
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: I mean I when I was a kid, I just

851
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: eat them off the ground. But they always taste peppery

852
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: to me. So I don't you got lucky? Yeh, lucky.

853
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: I was like the Gordon Ramsey of of the inside eating.

854
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 1: I have a friend who's visiting a cricket farm where

855
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: they're they're doing sort of like they're trying to mask.

856
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: It's very good. It's for ecological and humanitarian reasons, but

857
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: they're trying to sort of make a cricket farming a

858
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: sort of doable on this like Maus scale. And it's

859
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: just like I'm just imagining a bunch of little crickets

860
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: and paddocks, you know, just like rows and rows of them.

861
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: I know it's not that, but That's how I'm thinking

862
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 1: about it. Uh So. Yeah. Aeroplankton also includes some non

863
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: animal microorganisms, such as fungal spores, you know, same kind

864
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: of like principle as pollen. There's also bacteria viruses. In fact,

865
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: clouds that have been studied can have anywhere from three

866
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: hundred to thirty thousand bacteria per millimeter of water. It

867
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: is unclear whether clouds can successfully transport bacteria in an

868
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: effective way, because most kind of just die under cloud conditions.

869
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: It's not particularly hospitable to bacteria. But wind, like when

870
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: they have sort of a substrate to be on, like topsoil,

871
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: wind can transport this top soil containing bacteria. The bacteria

872
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: can like survive on this these like tiny particles of

873
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: top soil, and they can be transported from like one

874
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: area to another fairly effectively through wind.

875
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I have another question for you, and I'm not

876
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 2: sure you can answer this.

877
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: I'll make something up, don't worry.

878
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 2: I have a bad understanding of how high up is

879
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 2: the sky, and so I am. I'm curious if like

880
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 2: there's an animal that could potentially get picked up by

881
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 2: a wind current get carried higher and higher, like like

882
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 2: curious George and the kite, and just higher and hire

883
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 2: to the point where it just leaves the atmosphere, Like,

884
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 2: are we sending animals unto space by accident every day?

885
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: Potentially? I think that, you know, I I think like

886
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: a few there are few that would survive the trip

887
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: to say Mars, right like that could just flow on

888
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: their own, wind up on Mars and start like a

889
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: little colony of guys I mean some microscopic like I

890
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: mean bacteria. There are extremophiles like bacteria. I mean, we

891
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: talked about tartar grades who can survive quite a bit

892
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: of abuse. Even then, being able to survive space for

893
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: long enough to say, like hit the Moon would be

894
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: pretty tough without some kind of like yeah, good chunk

895
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: of a substrate. Like, there's ideas that back here it

896
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: could like maybe survive on say like an asteroid for

897
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: a while, right like, but just free floating in space.

898
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: I don't think they would last very long.

899
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: I don't need them to survive. I just like the

900
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 2: idea that there's a spider that in its last moments

901
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 2: leaves the pull of.

902
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 1: Earth mage to ground control. Yeah, I think, you know what,

903
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: I think it could happen. I don't know how much

904
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: we have in terms of records of that, right Like,

905
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 1: I don't know that we've got satellites scooping up scooping

906
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: up microorganisms, but I think that there certainly could be

907
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,280
Speaker 1: some like you know, maybe like a storm or something

908
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: that kicks them up even higher and you know. The

909
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: thing is the problem with that happening a lot is

910
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: that you need a lot of like velocity to escape

911
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: the Earth's gravity. Oh right, so like you know, you

912
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: could I could imagine something like getting kicked up maybe

913
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: by a storm and then like tinking into like a

914
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: satellite or something. But to really like get to shoot

915
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: something out into space, it's a really good question. I

916
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if there would be enough.

917
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: I mean, they're light, right, so it doesn't take as

918
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: much force as like a spaceship because the spaceship is

919
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: a big mass, and so you need a lot a

920
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: ton of energy to escape the Earth's gravitational pull something

921
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: that's tiny. Yeah, that's a that's a that's like a question.

922
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna ask Ai

923
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 1: assists whether.

924
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 2: I'm going to make a note to talk to Nessa

925
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: about putting a cup a look up on the next

926
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 2: satellite so that I can see if it's collecting uh targets.

927
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: That's a great question. I'm gonna I am going to

928
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: uh keep looking into this and if I find a

929
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: satisfying answer, I will do a follow up on the

930
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: show and I will tell you about it, Soren.

931
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 2: Because what a journey. I mean, obviously it ends in death,

932
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 2: but what a what an exciting journey for Yeah, I

933
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 2: mean little comrade spiders seems fun.

934
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: The the atmosphere, you know, like they're probably there's probably

935
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 1: like a special heaven for animals that die in space,

936
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: like like Ika is there. It's like lots of chimpanzees there.

937
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 2: You're past heaven at that point, like you are.

938
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: You're I do like that. You have you subscribe to

939
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: the belief that there is a heaven, but it is

940
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: lies at a certain it's at a certain it's like

941
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: sort of like above the eye on a sphere, but

942
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: below the stratosphere. I don't know how.

943
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 2: Sometimes in a plane you can you can see it.

944
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: I try. I try to wink at God when I'm

945
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: on a plane, you know, like, hey there, God, how's

946
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 1: the hanging Jesus. I'm sure you guys are up here

947
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: doing stuff.

948
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 2: One of the engines goes out. Okay, I'm sorry.

949
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know you know what is up there though.

950
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: Viruses uh so. Viruses can also travel by wind and

951
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: be found in clouds, and they can rain down on

952
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: us in actual literal rain. But don't worry. Most of

953
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 1: these are fine. In fact, pretty much all the viruses

954
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: that you're gonna find that are aeroplankt in uh. There's

955
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 1: millions and millions of them, and we're breathing them in

956
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: all the time. But they actually uh are only pathanogenic

957
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: uh for bacteria, So they infect bacteria maybe other microorganisms,

958
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: but they can't infect humans. And so it is not

959
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: really thought that viruses flying around in the wind is

960
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: particularly driving infection in humans. It's it is like theoretically possible, right.

961
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: It's just that a sneeze is gonna be a much

962
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: more efficient deliverer of viruses than like one virus lands

963
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: on your nose from two thousand miles away.

964
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 2: Okay, And if I'm drinking rainwater, am I getting all

965
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 2: this stuff in there as well?

966
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: I think there are different reasons not to drink rainwater,

967
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: like I mean, sometimes it depends on like the bodies

968
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: of water near you, where the water is evaporating from.

969
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: I don't think you have anything to worry about in

970
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: terms of viruses from drinking rainwater. It's just we're breathing

971
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: in like literally millions of viruses all the time, and

972
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: they just don't do anything to us.

973
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, makes me feel a little stronger.

974
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, it's like it's it's kind of like you know,

975
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like our bodies a city and these

976
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: viruses are just passing through, you know what I mean.

977
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: They're just drifters system. Yeah. But yeah, so don't don't

978
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: worry about it. We're constantly surrounded by viruses, bacteria. Little

979
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: guys probably breathe them, breathing them in, uh, taste in them.

980
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: You'd stick your tongue out. It's probably like just a

981
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff landing on there. But don't worry about it.

982
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: It's good. It's like, you know, like when you stick

983
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: out your tongue to catch snow on your on your tongue,

984
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: but then you're getting viruses.

985
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 2: Snowflaces.

986
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, makes it feel better. Anyways, before we go, we

987
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: do got to play a little game. This game is

988
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: called Guests Who's Squawking mysteryil sound game. Every week we

989
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: play a mystery an I'll sound in you the listener,

990
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: and you the guest, trying to guess who.

991
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 2: I'm so mad that.

992
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: I don't remember that you did.

993
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, there I was. I shouldn't know because we maybe

994
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 2: I can't remember the last time a time before, but

995
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 2: it was Cassawary, and Cassewary is like one of my

996
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 2: favorite games.

997
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that was so embarrassing. Everyone was disappointed

998
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: in you.

999
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 2: One more than myself.

1000
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: It's okay, I I'm sure if someone like turn this

1001
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: around on me, I would lose so much because, like

1002
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: it's easy for me to pick out these sounds and

1003
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I know what it is because I

1004
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: looked it up. I looked it up. But yeah I

1005
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: would I would not. I I don't want people to

1006
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: think that I would actually have a really high success

1007
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: rate with this, because I probably would not. Okay, But

1008
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: that being said, let's do this all right. So the

1009
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: hint is this. It gets its name from the sound

1010
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: it makes, not for sitting at the cool kids stable.

1011
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: It gets its name from the sound it makes, not

1012
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: from sitting at the cool kids table in high school.

1013
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: Could you hear that?

1014
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 2: Is it the little popping noise?

1015
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: Yes?

1016
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I was gonna say the manta shrimp,

1017
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 2: but or that shrimp that makes that noise. But then

1018
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 2: I hear a bunch of birds and ship in the background.

1019
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 2: So is this something? Is it the manta shrimp?

1020
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: No, it's not you're you're, you're, You're correct to be skeptical,

1021
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: given that there is birds and wind.

1022
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 2: Okay, because sometimes you can even say, put your you're

1023
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 2: the surface of the water. And it sounds like soda

1024
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 2: popping with manta shrimp. But let's see, let's see, it's.

1025
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: A good guess. It's a good guess.

1026
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:14,919
Speaker 2: Is that popping noise? It's gonna be something weird. Isn't

1027
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 2: a clam?

1028
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: No, it's not Alex Schmidt snapping his fingers doing.

1029
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 2: Doing try not find out until next one.

1030
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: Doing the no. No, you're gonna find out. You're gonna

1031
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: find out right now, because this is last week's No,

1032
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: it's not it's not Alex Smint snapping his fingers. Uh,

1033
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: it's not a clam Uh. This is the click beetle.

1034
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: It is a beetle that basically folds its body in

1035
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:47,439
Speaker 1: half and makes this clicking sound, and it actually can

1036
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: rapidly contract its muscles, and it has like a peg

1037
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: and slot mechanism uh that allows it to like it

1038
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: can unhinge this and then sna app it back into place,

1039
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: and it both makes a clicking sound and basically launches

1040
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: it in a sort of jump. So this is an

1041
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: evasive tactic for it to like, I don't know, I'm

1042
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: trying to think of it. It looks kind of funny

1043
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 1: because it's just it's basically just this beetle. It's kind

1044
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: of I don't know, it's like about the length of

1045
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: your thumb, and it's sort of oblong, just kind of

1046
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: a flat beetle. But then it like if it's on

1047
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: its back or being held, it like kind of folds

1048
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: itself where it's like kind of belly up and folds

1049
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: itself like in a upside down V and then just

1050
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: like snaps back together and then kind of flings itself

1051
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: and makes that snapping sound.

1052
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 2: That's pretty cool.

1053
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: It's fun. It's a fun little party trick.

1054
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 2: I didn't know this thing existed.

1055
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: Well, now you do, all.

1056
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 2: Right, give me the next one. I get another one, right,

1057
01:02:58,640 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 2: you do.

1058
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: Get another one? Okay, all right, here's a hint. This

1059
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: bearded fellow is the bell of the ball, all right,

1060
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: got of guesses.

1061
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 2: Yes, before I heard your clue, it's like bird. Definitely

1062
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 2: a bird.

1063
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 3: You gave me another clue that was this bearded fellow.

1064
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna even though the habitat in the background

1065
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 3: sounds too jungly or tropical for this, I'm gonna guess

1066
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 3: the bearded readling.

1067
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: Ooh, interesting, interesting, very interesting.

1068
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 2: Guess it's not right.

1069
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 1: It's not right, no, because otherwise I would have bleeped

1070
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 1: you out. But maybe you're on the right track. Anyways,

1071
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: you'll find out the real answer to this little, my

1072
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 1: tricky little riddle. Next time you're.

1073
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 2: Playing a home give yourself. Give yourself the extra context

1074
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 2: of the background noises always with this game. That's like,

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Speaker 2: you know Habitat right away, and I disregarded that this time.

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Speaker 2: I shouldn't have done that. But you get Habitat almost immediately,

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Speaker 2: and that's gonna give like that's gonna zero down your

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Speaker 2: search and then you can win this game of katies

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Speaker 2: that if you do win, you give a million dollars, right,

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Speaker 2: you give a million dollars the person who gets it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, well, Sarren, that is a great guess, and

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Speaker 1: he is on the right track. I will say that,

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Speaker 1: but yes, not quite uh anything that you know the answer.

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Speaker 1: You can write to me a Creature feature pod at

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Speaker 1: gmail dot com. You can also write to me your questions,

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Speaker 1: pictures of your pets. Please stop sending me requests for

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars. I don't have it. I don't have it.

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Speaker 1: Uh so sorry, where can the people find you? And also, hey,

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Speaker 1: thank you for coming on.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my pleasure. Thank you for having me. I'm

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Speaker 2: no longer on Twitter, but you can find me on

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Speaker 2: blue Sky. I'm like one of the Blue Sky.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's the other thing. I don't know where you.

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Speaker 1: I don't know where you're x x X.

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Speaker 2: Gonna give it to you. Yeah, I'm not on that anymore.

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Speaker 2: I'm on Blue Sky. If you go there, I'm one

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Speaker 2: of only like six people there, so it's very easy

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Speaker 2: to find me. Just it's a room full of folks

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Speaker 2: and you just go others.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'll follow you, I'll give you a follow. I'm

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Speaker 1: never there, but I guess I kind of want to

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Speaker 1: go on there, and I want to share super recipes

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Speaker 1: on blue Sky, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Just oh, reinvent yourself. It's like going to high school

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01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 2: after middle school. It's a whole new opportunity.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it. We could definitely swing it in

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Speaker 1: the direction of just being a recipe sharing site, and

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Speaker 1: we should try to do that. Like this is the

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Speaker 1: time at which the culture is being established and if

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Speaker 1: it's just like, this is a website to share fun

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Speaker 1: recipes without any stories, just like I like this being

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Speaker 1: super recipe here it is.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing jokes over there right now, but I'm happy

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Speaker 2: to switch over to Soups Soups.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good use for it as much

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Speaker 1: as anything else. But that's good.

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Speaker 2: You also listen to my podcast with the US It's

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Speaker 2: called Quick Question with Thorn and Daniel. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 2: fun little podcast we do. Yeah, and check it out.

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Speaker 1: Check that out. Please. I beg of you and thank

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Speaker 1: you so much listeners for doing that thing you do,

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Speaker 1: which is listening. If you're enjoying the show and you

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Speaker 1: leave it right review. I read every single review, all

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Speaker 1: of them all at once. It hurts my head, but

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Speaker 1: I love them. And thank you to the Space Cossics

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Speaker 1: for their super awesome song. Exo Lumina Creature feature is

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Speaker 1: a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts like the one

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Speaker 1: you just heard, visit the Arheart Radio ap Apple podcast

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Speaker 1: or Hey guess what where are you listening to your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows? I don't judge you. I'm not your mom.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you where to listen to your gosh

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Speaker 1: durn podcasts. That's not my job. See you next Wednesday.