Speaker 1: Yeah, what's up, y'all? What's going on? Brod Radio. He's
Speaker 1: a legendary Queen's rapper. Heygree is your boy In. He's
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Speaker 1: A drink chants, motherfucky podcast. Fg so, And when we
Speaker 1: started this show, we said we're going to continue with legends.
Speaker 1: We're going to keep it legendary. And right now we
Speaker 1: have one of the world's famous DJs, one of the best,
Speaker 1: world's best producers behind the scenes of touching every you know,
Speaker 1: top tier artist, Pass has had to go through this
Speaker 1: man's school, has had to be in a session with him,
Speaker 1: had to be schooled by him. He's done countless hit records,
Speaker 1: a sneaker king. Right now we are talking about the
Speaker 1: legendary DJ Clark can't make some And we also have
Speaker 1: his the homie who owns thirty six hundred pairs of sneakers.
Speaker 1: His closet smells like Nike, Adidas and New Balance. He's
Speaker 1: I've seen him on Enter the countless times. A lot
Speaker 1: of people call themself sneaker kings, but nobody's a sneaker
Speaker 1: king like my man May.
Speaker 2: He's in the building.
Speaker 1: It is hot here, goddamn it, it is hot. Goddamn
Speaker 1: this is this is a dream, champs is we are
Speaker 1: hip hop.
Speaker 2: Remember old D and D studio.
Speaker 1: You do not have to explain.
Speaker 2: D and D never had a C.
Speaker 1: I don't remember D and D. I have a C.
Speaker 1: I don't think it ever did. I don't remember having
Speaker 1: Uh what is it called the termite?
Speaker 5: People like exterminating either. They never had exterminated D D.
Speaker 5: Big up Premiere, God damn it for keeping hip hop
Speaker 5: hip hop.
Speaker 1: We just had Premiere and p Rock on here. But
Speaker 1: before we get into here, we started this thing saying
Speaker 1: that we wanted to keep legends and hip hop alive.
Speaker 1: Today marks our first episode we ever dropped March twenty fifth.
Speaker 1: We don't know when we were dropping this episode, but
Speaker 1: March twenty fifth was our first episode. We hardly didn't
Speaker 1: know what we were doing. But you with my boy
Speaker 1: too and with our boy? Was that with Joe? That's right, boy,
Speaker 1: that's right after you call Joel? Is that? Look? Cluk,
Speaker 1: this is how this is how they pour in, Barry,
Speaker 1: you're getting that rich. Make sure you get that good
Speaker 1: slow motion. This is how they pour in and Bowery
Speaker 1: be seen. I'm holding to be seen. So clak, I
Speaker 1: want you to take us to the beginning, at the beginning,
Speaker 1: what of the career, Like, what did you did?
Speaker 6: You say?
Speaker 1: You don't know him? Right now? You like you like
Speaker 1: me and like right now I'm interview worried. It makes sense,
Speaker 1: it makes sense, so listen, So did you start as
Speaker 1: a producer first? Oh, you started as a DJ? DJ?
Speaker 1: I'm a DJ first, thousand percent, Like I'm I don't
Speaker 1: even know, Yeah, yeah, I'm a DJ first. That's it.
Speaker 1: Everything that I do is based off of me being
Speaker 1: a DJ first, Okay? And who was the person you
Speaker 1: looked up to as a DJ? I would probably, if
Speaker 1: I had to say the most, I would say Larry Levan.
Speaker 1: But but before that, the first person I actually would
Speaker 1: say I looked up to as a DJ or I
Speaker 1: I looked at him, went like he's the guy with
Speaker 1: Grandmaster Flowers. What's wrong they gonna say, master Flies, my
Speaker 1: Grandmaster Flowers, Grandmaster Flowers. Yeah, I never heard him. I'm
Speaker 1: thirty nine years old. Yeah, he's he's the legend in Brooklyn. Wow,
Speaker 1: he's the guy big up Master Flowers. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: rest in peace, Rest in peace, sol clawed. You got
Speaker 1: to meet Biggie early on? Yeah, what was that like?
Speaker 1: It was cool because you have to remember, all of
Speaker 1: his ogs was my man's on and and uh and
Speaker 1: just and all of the guys that were older than him.
Speaker 1: We're so we got to do with toast man, toast
Speaker 1: to you for surviving this nasty ass game for as
Speaker 1: long as you have been and out here still relevant,
Speaker 1: So salute to you. Continue the big go ahead. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so all of his uh, his o g's was my man's. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a little I was. I'm older than him. I
Speaker 1: was older than him, and I was also always around
Speaker 1: poppling them. So meeting him was I knew he was
Speaker 1: a dope MC that there was nothing confusing about it. Now,
Speaker 1: you met you met him early on? You met him,
Speaker 1: I met him days? Yeah, I met him then, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I met him earlier, Okay, and earlier than the regatars,
Speaker 1: like when he went to was on the corners just
Speaker 1: and he was when he was on Stretching Noye, I
Speaker 1: mean Stretching Bo like I knew who he was at
Speaker 1: that point. Now, what, Scott's the limit?
Speaker 2: You did that?
Speaker 1: Yes, I did. That wasn't the first joint you did
Speaker 1: for Big right, that would be the first joint I did.
Speaker 1: That was his record, but he was on Junior my
Speaker 1: Fair Records. I executive produced the album with him. We
Speaker 1: did that together. Okay, we're gonna go back to that.
Speaker 1: But Scott's the Limit one of my favorite bigs, Thank you, brother,
Speaker 1: and today is twenty is after that? Yeah right, and
Speaker 1: that's makes a noose for that.
Speaker 2: Anybody spoken.
Speaker 1: It is not be doing on drink Champs the cameraman
Speaker 1: even with that horn. I'm a joke your man with
Speaker 1: the horn. I'm just show me. So Scott's the limit.
Speaker 1: Now Big calls USA, he wants to beat Buff calls
Speaker 1: you or how does this happen? We were on tour. Okay,
Speaker 1: then he goes, let's start. He wants to make records
Speaker 1: for Junior Mafia, and uh, he goes someone we come
Speaker 1: back when we go home. When we come back, just,
Speaker 1: you know, bring some music. So I brought some music
Speaker 1: and it was on the bus and we were going
Speaker 1: through tracks for Junior Mafia and he heard it and
Speaker 1: he wanted it for himself. God's a limit. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then and then I went straight to the studio. No. Actually,
Speaker 1: like I said, we were working on Junior Mafia is
Speaker 1: the idea to Junior Manfia's album. We didn't even like
Speaker 1: have a really set plan that this was going to
Speaker 1: go down. It was I want to make an album
Speaker 1: on Junior Manfield. Mister Lee, what's up man? We recorded
Speaker 1: there's no simple lemonade just gut it. Talk is very Hollywood.
Speaker 1: We got to get him simply lemonade. This is this
Speaker 1: is no. But you don't got simple lemonade with just lemonade, man,
Speaker 1: Just just lemonade in Fiji water, please, Fiji water with
Speaker 1: the red top. No, no, got So that's your man
Speaker 1: who was driving.
Speaker 2: He's the best.
Speaker 1: He's so you do discot's the limit. Like I said,
Speaker 1: he was on we on tour and I brought him
Speaker 1: some music back when we was going. When we went
Speaker 1: back on tour and he heard it, he said he
Speaker 1: wanted it, and I thought he actually was saying he
Speaker 1: wanted it Virginia Mafia. But then I figured out, or
Speaker 1: we figured out, that he didn't want a Virginia Mafia
Speaker 1: at all. He wanted it for himself. And uh, I
Speaker 1: kind of was like, well, you can't have it because
Speaker 1: one I had given it to what Yeah, it was,
Speaker 1: it was. I did tell me that. Damn. I remember
Speaker 1: him telling me. You know, it's crazy if a story
Speaker 1: involves you me and you never called him alive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, come on, that's very true. It's very true.
Speaker 1: It's very true. I'm never a thing about it. Come on,
Speaker 1: come on, Poppy, But you don't cook as Vandamania. Don't
Speaker 1: turn the corner. You're gonna start repping. You were fabulous'
Speaker 1: you're gonna make y'all your name is probably you know
Speaker 1: this not no, that's right, let's make some noise for that.
Speaker 1: So was you there when Scott's the Limit was recorded?
Speaker 1: Half of it. I recorded the beat and then it
Speaker 1: went to it went to what you call it. It
Speaker 1: went to to Puff's studio, and then it came back
Speaker 1: with the vocals, and and then it went back again
Speaker 1: because he was like, he's gonna put one twelve on
Speaker 1: it because he had did the hook by himself at first,
Speaker 1: and then it went back to GET one twelve and
Speaker 1: then it came back to the studio where I was
Speaker 1: at that mixed it. Wow, but he was there for
Speaker 1: the mixing and he was so now let me flip
Speaker 1: and bounce it on. You also knew Tupac as well, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you knew early Tupac. Just describe that, like, describe the
Speaker 1: difference from early Tupac to the Tupac that you know
Speaker 1: people know that Digital Underground. Yeah, well, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: in Digital Underground, he was being who he was in
Speaker 1: Digital Underground. He was dancer sometimes rapper and hype man.
Speaker 1: You know that's I mean he was. He was a
Speaker 1: happy to go like he got all right And did
Speaker 1: you meet the death Row Tupac? Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's describe it. I know you're talking to me like
Speaker 1: he's looking at me, like look at you know, but no, listen,
Speaker 1: change from death Throat he changed after the incident with
Speaker 1: the cops. I think no, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, he definitely.
Speaker 1: It was. It was a change. What it was. It
Speaker 1: wasn't the change that I'm asking Clark, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying to change, like from Digital Underground TUPAC to
Speaker 1: death ro Stick changes changed because you're you're you're you're
Speaker 1: skipping a whole section of when he made records, Like
Speaker 1: he made records before he became death Row. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like Brenda's got a baby. Holler if
Speaker 1: you hear me. Like you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: he was making records that were socially socially good and relevant.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Brendan's had a bab Brenda's
Speaker 1: got a baby is like amazing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So there was some things that were happening way before
Speaker 1: he became death Row and he was being he was
Speaker 1: being a rapper. You know, they say that that bishop
Speaker 1: changed them. Some people would say that a lot of
Speaker 1: people would say that. I mean, but he was acting
Speaker 1: in that role and they say he stayed bishop after that.
Speaker 1: It's not that I think what he what he surrounded
Speaker 1: himself kind of like the people he was around. I
Speaker 1: think the people that he got around kind of let
Speaker 1: him fall into the bishop character. Maybe maybe, and then
Speaker 1: he was trying to emulate the guys he got around,
Speaker 1: probably right, you know, I mean, and then you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, if if you got tough guys around you,
Speaker 1: you might try to act tough. What's Clark Kent's favorite
Speaker 1: time in hip hop? My favorite time in hip hop? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and hip hop or rap? That's that's so I would
Speaker 1: like that question. Then my favorite time in hip hop
Speaker 1: is the whole forty five years that has been happening,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying of hip hop? Yeah, the
Speaker 1: whole life of hip hop is my favorite because I
Speaker 1: grew up in it. I'm a part of it. And like,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's it's it's anywhere close to done.
Speaker 1: It's a culture. It's the culture and the way that
Speaker 1: we live. Culture is a way of life, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, rap isn't a way of life.
Speaker 1: Rap is a music that lives within the culture. So
Speaker 1: it lives within the way of life that we live.
Speaker 1: So if you ask me my favorite time and rap
Speaker 1: is when niggas could actually rhyme, like what times period
Speaker 1: we talk would have to say, I would have to
Speaker 1: say from from the message from the message to I
Speaker 1: don't know the best rhymers were around in the nineties,
Speaker 1: but I mean when you heard the message. It kind
Speaker 1: of changed what people were willing to speak about. And
Speaker 1: the funny part is that verse that Mellie Mel said
Speaker 1: in the message is on Melly Mel's first record, and
Speaker 1: nobody caught that. Mellius ever, Yeah, I thought everybody knew
Speaker 1: that though, But it's on super wrapping is more but
Speaker 1: no state of mind, blind to the ways of man.
Speaker 1: It's on the end of super wrapping. And then and
Speaker 1: then to use it on the message again, did you
Speaker 1: see Melly Mell on the we showed recently he said
Speaker 1: he's better than jay Z. He got to relax. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's better at jay Z doing what you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's a good question. Oh you know what,
Speaker 1: when people say things, you got to ask them in
Speaker 1: what context? And you know what I'm saying, because I
Speaker 1: can say I'm better than jay Z. And then and
Speaker 1: then the problem is most people will walk away thinking
Speaker 1: the fuck is he talking about? He can't wrap? Instead,
Speaker 1: I can go get DJing. And then what you're gonna
Speaker 1: say is he gonna say good point. But I don't
Speaker 1: think you can't saying a great point. You know what.
Speaker 5: Melly Mills also, I think old body build up. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but he ain't take my fighting. They were talking about
Speaker 5: what did fight didn't have to do about it?
Speaker 1: I mean just automatic thinking, like you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: but I think that's dope. I think that as long
Speaker 1: as you're MC, you should think that you're you're you're
Speaker 1: the best. Sometimes you got to have reality hit you,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying like, Well, MC shouldn't
Speaker 1: have reality hit him. Rappers should have reality him. Okay,
Speaker 1: come on, get your camera, man, Come on, man, while
Speaker 1: you what it's right? Great, shut down, fast and furious.
Speaker 1: So maya. What is your favorite time in hip hop?
Speaker 1: Oh man? Late eighties the nineties.
Speaker 6: I mean I go back and I was, you know,
Speaker 6: I have my hands in clubsos back in the day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was one of the.
Speaker 6: Many guys that had a little taste of club essos.
Speaker 1: Back in the day.
Speaker 6: So you know jay Z twenty two tools club essos.
Speaker 1: I remember one of my dudes from left right, they
Speaker 1: had a chick and jay Z and Big came in
Speaker 1: that night and they took my man's chick in the club,
Speaker 1: and that what happen. That what happened, and.
Speaker 2: They came in with just them too.
Speaker 1: It was just Jay z and and Biggie. I was like, damn, Like, well,
Speaker 1: we should have jumped them as here's a thought, here's
Speaker 1: a thought if they walked in and took this dude's chicken,
Speaker 1: wasn't it was like a bitch. They just met at
Speaker 1: the club and still but still, you know, we gigged
Speaker 1: doing this nigga for weeks.
Speaker 7: He probably just that was big and Jay, I mean
Speaker 7: that that movement was was that what's that movie?
Speaker 1: We got a c we gotttle open another bottle?
Speaker 8: Boy?
Speaker 1: She was up. It should have been crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that Club Essos movement was crazy.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, you had Jay with the twin tools,
Speaker 6: Maria Davis Man Wednesdays. That was one of the illest
Speaker 6: parties we ever had. You know, Maria Davis Every Wednesday
Speaker 6: was legend. I was a legend every party. I'm one
Speaker 6: of the few guys that seen Clark about thirty five
Speaker 6: battles and couldn't walk out the club. I've seen Club
Speaker 6: about thirty five bottles and couldn't walk out the club trying.
Speaker 1: He's been one of the greatest DJs on the planet. Brother,
Speaker 1: And we're not gonna argue, and we're gonna respect that tonight.
Speaker 1: But ahead, man, I'm.
Speaker 6: Sorry now, Junior, my feet shot uh to give money
Speaker 6: video money. Part of the give money video was shot
Speaker 6: a club, so and that was cool. I mean they
Speaker 6: just walked up to the club one Wednesday afternoon with
Speaker 6: a couple of dollars and was like, yea, we shoot
Speaker 6: for the who day. Cool, let's make it happen. So,
Speaker 6: you know, to see ship like that happened all the
Speaker 6: time was crazy.
Speaker 1: But I mean, how did you become a sneaker king?
Speaker 6: I've been doing this since I was ten years old.
Speaker 1: Man, collect this sneakers.
Speaker 6: I got into sneakers when my moms bought me a
Speaker 6: pair of skippies. Man, you know the skippies there dollar
Speaker 6: ninety nine. So it wasn't a skippy really, it was
Speaker 6: a shoe called the Mark five. And my government name
Speaker 6: is Mark. So I thought I was the coolest mother
Speaker 6: fuck on the planet because I had my name on
Speaker 6: the shoot. I went back to the block, got laughed
Speaker 6: off the block like now you wearing Skippi And after
Speaker 6: that whatever I had to do. What I was robbing
Speaker 6: money from my grandfather sweeping floors to buy sniggers. It
Speaker 6: started from there, at ten years old, I bowed that
Speaker 6: shit would never happen again.
Speaker 1: And then you, Clark, how did you become? Because I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what one of my boys right now, like
Speaker 1: you know, because we'll be saying college and fat Joe
Speaker 1: is cheating, like we said Claud got a Cheatko too.
Speaker 1: Like when I asked my boy, my boy said, he's
Speaker 1: probably the only guy in the world that could tell
Speaker 1: Fat Joe and DJ college to relax. My boy said, respectfully,
Speaker 1: it's probably true. But if we say Cali, yeah, the
Speaker 1: dance would be yes. There's no argument to that. He
Speaker 1: could say that. You know what I'm saying. With Joe,
Speaker 1: it'll be a you never know on any day. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I went to high school with Joe, Like Joe, my
Speaker 6: lunch room was fat lawing us.
Speaker 2: Wow what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So, but I want to Joe went to Morrows for
Speaker 6: a year and of course he got kicked out and
Speaker 6: not enough and I'm a little SOLDI you got to
Speaker 6: t chain and I don't I know Joe for a
Speaker 6: long time.
Speaker 2: I got a let the rest.
Speaker 1: I got a let the rest.
Speaker 6: Salute the one year yes, you know, and on your
Speaker 6: one year show when Joe was talking about sneakers.
Speaker 1: My name mentioned later here, yes, yes, yes, that's what
Speaker 1: they ain't got mentioned by Joe. Yeah, and Joe, if
Speaker 1: he's being honest, he mentioned me too. I know he
Speaker 1: did say. Yeah, he says you and look at why
Speaker 1: bring with you? Yes, and you bring the other sneaker.
Speaker 1: This is this is real ship. I don't think you've
Speaker 1: never been on the podcast. No, yeah, that's crazy. You
Speaker 1: know we got actually we're doing a podcast on Joe
Speaker 1: about sneakers. So he's gonna have his own podcast called
Speaker 1: Josher Kicks. I need to be. You need to be.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, you brother to have your
Speaker 1: own joint, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Like you know, he's gone, okay, like you do that,
Speaker 5: you gotta be.
Speaker 1: I don't have the no, I gotta try, gotta try, yo.
Speaker 1: Do you know I've been trying to get Fat Joe
Speaker 1: high for fifteen eighteen years that I knew him. And
Speaker 1: the other day he had a tooth fake and we
Speaker 1: got missed the childs and I'm smoking a vapor pin
Speaker 1: and I just passed it to.
Speaker 9: Him and he hit it and I was like, I
Speaker 9: was like, I didn't even say that, but everybody everybody's
Speaker 9: talking and ship and they act like it's normal, and
Speaker 9: he's like, he looks at the whole table.
Speaker 1: He goes, No, nobody see this fucking fake. I'm so happy.
Speaker 1: I just stood there, you know, the basket for eighteen
Speaker 1: years and you never want the damn my life never spoke.
Speaker 1: We never tried it once. Yeah, and I thought it
Speaker 1: was orated, it was overrated. I traded, tried it once,
Speaker 1: try it again, Right, you're trying to make me try again.
Speaker 1: I know you got to get that money tonight. But
Speaker 1: now let's let's stay there on a sneak of things.
Speaker 1: So how did you start this fetish? Like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? When because you like the first guy
Speaker 1: to have a pair of knights, the first DJ. I know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that Zagger I would say about
Speaker 1: Beato had him, but like he's not, he's not like
Speaker 1: considered the DJ the way I'm considered the DJ. So
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess with a release, the first guy
Speaker 1: with the release would probably be either me or Bobido. Yeah. Wow,
Speaker 1: when it comes to the rap game or whatever. The
Speaker 1: DJ thing definitely. And is it true that you you
Speaker 1: try to wear just one sneaker every day, like different
Speaker 1: since two thousand and four. Since two thousand and four,
Speaker 1: every day you switch up a different sneaker. Yeah, actually
Speaker 1: with my second pair today, your second pair? Just do
Speaker 1: I dire look down?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 1: No, I don't, man, I'm just i gotta look. I
Speaker 1: got it. I'm light today. Man, I'm like you all, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got those. I don't know whether you probably don't
Speaker 1: have these, but you probably don't have the original. These
Speaker 1: are the ones that came out about four or five
Speaker 1: years ago. I ain't got that right. You got the
Speaker 1: new ones that just came out. Yeah, So how do
Speaker 1: you keep y'all shit fresh? How do you you were
Speaker 1: a brand new bass? Look Fiji, look baby, we got
Speaker 1: you baby, you know get the only nigga that called
Speaker 1: me so now claw okay, like I was, You asked
Speaker 1: me about how I was a kid and around my
Speaker 1: way which crying heights, Brooklyn. The older dudes who had
Speaker 1: who had girls, No, no, no, no, no girls. We would
Speaker 1: always like look up to the guys. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So if I'm like eight and I'm looking
Speaker 1: at a guy who's sixteen seventeen, the first thing I'm
Speaker 1: trying to figure out is how did he get the girls,
Speaker 1: and we always thought the sneakers looking new. But he
Speaker 1: was older, so he's supposed to have better sneakers than
Speaker 1: a kid who's eight, but we didn't register that because
Speaker 1: there was no fathers around. So we looked at them
Speaker 1: like big brothers who kind of guided or big uncles
Speaker 1: who guided, and if they were fresh, we wanted to
Speaker 1: be fresh. So we just wanted our sneakers new. And
Speaker 1: that started like when I was nine, first time I
Speaker 1: made some money, I bought sneakers. I think me too.
Speaker 1: That's her ship. But I'm not like kings like y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all like y'all take this ship serious. That's a choice.
Speaker 1: Because you got the money. I'm like, because you have
Speaker 1: them on, I'm saying you have the money. I'm the pawn.
Speaker 1: Don't don't worry. You're talking about the fact that you
Speaker 1: have the money.
Speaker 2: Relax, don't double back to that.
Speaker 6: When you got that five zs and you signed you
Speaker 6: want sneakers happening.
Speaker 1: Enough actually went aver Rex sopping text. I went to
Speaker 1: the fish ship across the street from Stretch on strong ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's definitely, that's definitely the truth. So look, now
Speaker 1: this is basically shot time. This is when we take
Speaker 1: a shot of your preference. This is part of the
Speaker 1: show on every show.
Speaker 11: Yes, I'm an avid listener. Yes, all right, the first
Speaker 11: half is the com you know what I did?
Speaker 1: I actually, you know, you know, because you're my friend.
Speaker 1: So I actually look at other interviews and I want
Speaker 1: to be the exact opposite of every other interview you
Speaker 1: ever did. And I want to just ask you about
Speaker 1: hip hop as opposed to just ask you personal stuff.
Speaker 1: We'll get like to little things, but I want to
Speaker 1: ask you in general hip hop because you're a hip
Speaker 1: hop king, and we got to acknowledge that. We gotta
Speaker 1: respect that I appreciate, and that's what the show is about.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know is you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know if this is the reason why it works
Speaker 1: because they quote unquote call me a legend, and for
Speaker 1: a legend to sit on the chair and always respect
Speaker 1: another legend, I guess that's humbling to certain people. And
Speaker 1: I want to continue that because for me, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I remember Clark coming to the
Speaker 1: War report session and I'm having a rhyme. My rhyme
Speaker 1: was like thirty six bars and he was like, relax, like, Yo,
Speaker 1: this is not how you rhy You can't have that
Speaker 1: advance like that. You got to break that up. And
Speaker 1: I would just rhyme. I just never knew how to like,
Speaker 1: I just I never made a sixteen bar verse at
Speaker 1: that time, Like it just didn't registered to me. I
Speaker 1: just wrote until I couldn't write no more, and then
Speaker 1: that was a verse. So whether that was twenty four,
Speaker 1: thirty six or forty fucking.
Speaker 2: Too, that, to me that was.
Speaker 1: I remember Clark coming in the studio and saying, hold
Speaker 1: on home, hold on, you went too crazy. Break that up,
Speaker 1: And I didn't know how what he meant he broke
Speaker 1: it up? Had the chicks from s w V come
Speaker 1: I never met? Like I was? I was mad John?
Speaker 1: What is that shit called? Uttressed off shruck? But then
Speaker 1: she couldn't sing Let's keep it right?
Speaker 2: Which one?
Speaker 1: Which one? I don't remember which one? The one thing
Speaker 1: I think it was it was either legally it wasn't.
Speaker 1: I think it was. I wasn't the main and Coco
Speaker 1: could sing, but I remembering waiting, I being so disappointed. No,
Speaker 1: it's not that they can't sing, it's just that it
Speaker 1: wasn't working that day. No, No, I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: you can't sing. I'm saying that day that it wasn't
Speaker 1: working on the song that on the melody, she couldn't
Speaker 1: she couldn't catch it. But I brought nigga in it.
Speaker 1: But so describe that, Describe that session for for me,
Speaker 1: for you. That's how.
Speaker 6: You you.
Speaker 1: You got to get some pretense to the to the
Speaker 1: to it. I knew you from before, like everybody needs
Speaker 1: to know. Like it wasn't like I just walked up
Speaker 1: and I just was like, yeah, no, that's not what
Speaker 1: you're doing. You know what I'm saying. It was more like, okay,
Speaker 1: I knew him all the time, and it was your clock.
Speaker 1: We need a joint. I'm like, yeah, you know my
Speaker 1: And then Copone went away and I was like, fuck,
Speaker 1: I can't do it without without poone because you know
Speaker 1: both of them is my niggas, right, And so then
Speaker 1: it was like, well, he heard a beat that he
Speaker 1: liked and it was a decision that he made and
Speaker 1: he was going to do the whole song by himself,
Speaker 1: and that's where we got in there. And it was
Speaker 1: just this forty eight bottles of rhyming and I was like,
Speaker 1: do it, And my thing was the track was too
Speaker 1: pretty for him to be rhyming all crazy on it.
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, the rhymes are fine since you
Speaker 1: have to move somewhere around, can you stop for a
Speaker 1: second if you stick a hook in there? I don't
Speaker 1: remember it just like that. If you asked me, what
Speaker 1: was that like, I'm gonna say it was perfect because
Speaker 1: you let me produce, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: so he wasn't. He wasn't fighting you on it not.
Speaker 1: But I think the reason why he didn't fight me
Speaker 1: is because I was already I had already made enough
Speaker 1: records for him to go. I trust him. See back
Speaker 1: in the days you got you got trusted if you
Speaker 1: produce some records, you know what I'm saying. And he
Speaker 1: trusted me, and like he was the first producer apartment,
Speaker 1: because he was the first producer who told me that
Speaker 1: most producers would just let me run. If you look,
Speaker 1: if you listen then later no, if you listen to
Speaker 1: the Bloody Money. Listening to Bloody Money one versus thirty
Speaker 1: six bars, bro the other one is twenty four doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense in any.
Speaker 6: Other How did you take that when he told you
Speaker 6: though like you.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to learn. I wanted to learn. I
Speaker 1: sat back like a as a student, and I've seen
Speaker 1: him produce like he said it was yeah, but look again,
Speaker 1: I think the times were different than it wasn't. It
Speaker 1: wasn't I'm gonna give you a beat, you know what
Speaker 1: it was. I wasn't back that we made records to that.
Speaker 1: But like dudes who never had a record, like who
Speaker 1: never sold the record, they'll give you a beat and
Speaker 1: just walk away and be like, yes, go down and
Speaker 1: face well, what does that song sound like? Or is
Speaker 1: it a song? Or are people gonna remember that ship
Speaker 1: or they gonna care later. So if you've made a record,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, you start to care differently.
Speaker 1: So I just wanted him to have a song that
Speaker 1: had a feeling that you when you walked away from
Speaker 1: listening to the whole album, you might be like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's my favorite record, that's my favorite record, But you
Speaker 1: never forget that he made Closer to this Paper. You'll
Speaker 1: never forget it when you listen to the album, because
Speaker 1: because it's the one song on the album that's not
Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's good, that's that's the God. Whatever,
Speaker 1: that's okay, that's the God talking to us. Go come on,
Speaker 1: pull some more shots the shots going come can you No?
Speaker 1: I don't like your heavy hand. I got a cold,
Speaker 1: so rocking there? Do we wipe this up? You got? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You got turns hm you know what it turns out?
Speaker 1: Holds a rock here covid yeah, cod for you. Goddamn
Speaker 1: you give me my bottleless I forgot this is you?
Speaker 1: Thank god I changed my playing. That's not I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: I'm here. Okay, here he's going back shouting puff cold rock.
Speaker 1: Let's here, big posit for you right there. Damn it.
Speaker 1: The normal coop ships came up. God, damn it. What
Speaker 1: is feeling? Shot niggas gave me the filthy ye see
Speaker 1: shot lesses on them and I'm man, I ain't even
Speaker 1: walk this shot lessons out there. This is would want something?
Speaker 1: You know me, you know what my first person in
Speaker 1: action and you know what I mean. This year is
Speaker 1: the twentieth anniversary of the war report. Wow, June would
Speaker 1: be because we dropped at June nineteen ninety seven was busy,
Speaker 1: so it's busy. This year is real and twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: you for like nineteen ninety eight. To me, let's do
Speaker 1: that having fun. We're doing it all over. But you
Speaker 1: got a shot, Mayor, you gotta shots right there?
Speaker 2: Who's poor?
Speaker 1: Oh? I gotta pour money for yourself. We don't want
Speaker 1: to be. We don't want you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You're a legend. God damn it. We see what your
Speaker 1: wedding wing on. I wore mind so I knew he
Speaker 1: was gonna wear y'alls. You know. So you said you
Speaker 1: got married. You said, I war minds because I need.
Speaker 8: The shots so my wife. That wasn't I can't.
Speaker 1: Hang over man. That was That was like a kid
Speaker 1: with you mind.
Speaker 2: That was love city, bro.
Speaker 1: There was a love for cy me. That was love city.
Speaker 1: God damn it. And we got trolling for clock cancer
Speaker 1: and motherfucking may Man is happening to you? Gotta wait?
Speaker 1: Can we get a shot of air conditioning? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he was over here, son. It wasn't.
Speaker 2: Was the air conditioning, mister discussion.
Speaker 1: Buny, goddamn it, trying to fix him. I'm so happy
Speaker 1: you brother.
Speaker 2: You want to say?
Speaker 1: That's right? Man? The three champs, God damn it. I'm
Speaker 1: having the world gainst. We celebrated hip hop look at that.
Speaker 1: Look at that, I knew Clark is a different type
Speaker 1: of person. I asked him what he drinking. He said, patron.
Speaker 1: People who drink patron, they like to go to the abits.
Speaker 1: That's the bottom of the ship.
Speaker 2: I expect you to.
Speaker 1: God damn it all right now, let's go.
Speaker 2: I feel.
Speaker 1: Ye. Goddamnit look like at the biggest shot to sea
Speaker 1: because the DC tour in the house. God damn, you
Speaker 1: know we love you so Clark to get money beat,
Speaker 1: I didn't do to get money beat. I'm mixed to
Speaker 1: get money record. What happened was d J d J E.
Speaker 1: He's easy. L P. You over that right? No, LP,
Speaker 1: where are you going right now? I just asking because
Speaker 1: what's the phone call conversation you're talking about? Ez l P.
Speaker 1: He told you to turn down the beat, and he
Speaker 1: was on the phone and then you snuffed him something like, no,
Speaker 1: I want to hear this one.
Speaker 2: It sounds like something happened.
Speaker 1: I didn't. You know, it's crazy. Soon as you get
Speaker 1: this shot, don't. But I heard the story. There's no
Speaker 1: backing off either. Well, just just I was around then,
Speaker 1: just so you know, it wasn't over me. It was
Speaker 1: over he was on the phone and and he was
Speaker 1: I think it was either on just or somebody was
Speaker 1: saying them. And and then somebody somebody was like he
Speaker 1: I don't know who said turn the ship down or whatever,
Speaker 1: but you know, then and then he got hurt big
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he got hit with a drummer. Sheine,
Speaker 1: you hit him with a jump I gave you hit
Speaker 1: him with the drum machine. Let's make a rump machine. Man.
Speaker 1: My brother heard about this story. I did not hit
Speaker 1: him with a drum ma shee. But I didn't. We
Speaker 1: didn't have a beat. You sound you sound right? Now.
Speaker 1: Here's what.
Speaker 2: We're taking a little shot.
Speaker 1: I want to.
Speaker 12: Listen.
Speaker 1: You can take all the shots you. I'm not mad.
Speaker 1: I'm saying I did not hit him with a machine.
Speaker 1: I think, so what did you? There was a rough
Speaker 1: conversation about the fact that when I mixed the record,
Speaker 1: and when I was mixing the record, I was taking
Speaker 1: out the drums that he put on the record to
Speaker 1: just leave the loop by itself. Why is all the
Speaker 1: arms for? It's not deep, it's simple. And I think
Speaker 1: played myself, and I think that's the way. I think.
Speaker 1: There was a like a heated conversation because honestly, I
Speaker 1: wasn't even paying attention. I just know it was like
Speaker 1: now and I was like, what the fuck? And he
Speaker 1: had got I think he got hit with a drum
Speaker 1: machine something like that. I wasn't to talk.
Speaker 13: Believe, it's no job, and like every other thing, like
Speaker 13: every everything you ever mentioned, and like but right now,
Speaker 13: at the moment, you got in the Brooklyn on like
Speaker 13: you can't even take the Brooklyn smirk, like you can't
Speaker 13: take another jot Clark, I got, yeah, you gotta.
Speaker 1: We're celebrating clark Head tonight in the words, in the
Speaker 1: words of Norman.
Speaker 2: I'm the official porl and I.
Speaker 1: See you on the d J yesterday. You had champagne.
Speaker 1: You killed the crowd, yo, goddamn it. I'm still proud
Speaker 1: of you. Still out here relevant to take another shot? Godamn,
Speaker 1: come on, we're gonna do it. Luke Clark can motherfucking
Speaker 1: mayor goddamn goes down like that.
Speaker 2: I am not going to the party.
Speaker 1: The best liquor on the planet throw that out there.
Speaker 1: That shot was way too much, So Clark over again,
Speaker 1: you did not I did not hit easy l P
Speaker 1: with a drum machine at all. I had nothing to do.
Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with it. So you want
Speaker 1: they want to get off of that subject.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna text you to not tell you.
Speaker 1: But it's all because Easy LP his family as well.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It was I heard because you know,
Speaker 1: you know why I heard that room up because they
Speaker 1: was telling me how Big was like an instigator. So
Speaker 1: they so they because I used to instigate ship like
Speaker 1: Big Big as an instigator. So that's how I actually
Speaker 1: got that story. But I wouldn't say Big was an instigator.
Speaker 1: I would say Big was he instigated the machine. The
Speaker 1: machine just that.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm can I ask you about the rabbit you slad? No,
Speaker 1: it's okay, it was okay you already said that. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know you know what you did? Yo. I want
Speaker 1: to be. I want to be I want everybody to
Speaker 1: understand this. Nor re curved me when he first started
Speaker 1: doing the podcast. No, yes, wait wait remember you hit
Speaker 1: me on Twitter and hold on. I was way later.
Speaker 1: I want to know because you hit me on Twitter
Speaker 1: and was like, Yo, we need to get you on
Speaker 1: the on the podcast, and I went, I don't know, son,
Speaker 1: because I know you Poppy and you was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I forget it. You were back. Yeah, forget it, I said,
Speaker 1: I laughed.
Speaker 2: I was like, aha, I said don't.
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know, because I know you you
Speaker 1: roll back. Here's the crazy ship.
Speaker 11: Now.
Speaker 1: I'm a hot nigga. So sometimes I answered somebody else
Speaker 1: thinking I'm asking somebody else. You listen, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: honest with you. It's certain people that is like so
Speaker 1: much family to me that it's like you're one of
Speaker 1: those guys like I did. I don't pressure you because
Speaker 1: I know that me and you're gonna sure, we're gonna
Speaker 1: do it. And then I've seen you did rap up.
Speaker 1: We almost didn't. When I said you didn't, I'm saying
Speaker 1: I said, I said, hmm. I said, they don't know
Speaker 1: how to, you know, get it out of him, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, that's a great pause. It's great.
Speaker 6: They do.
Speaker 1: What they do is what they do. But what we
Speaker 1: do is we celebrate hip hop. We celebrate moments. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's celebrate the Poladia. But because celebration, you're trying to
Speaker 1: celebrate someone getting here with a drummer shet of having
Speaker 1: an issue with easier, I didn't have it, yo. That's
Speaker 1: so I'm telling you what actually happened because that's such
Speaker 1: a classic hip hop story. Because y'all was so intricate
Speaker 1: in the Junior Mafia album resolutely, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So last year we didn't know that. You need to
Speaker 1: know that, Like I'm three is my lucky number. So
Speaker 1: We're gonna do one more shot, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But continue, I just want to throw that out there.
Speaker 1: What's next. The best Panamanian DJ in the world makes
Speaker 1: some fact, is the best of Minican rapper in the
Speaker 1: world make some noise as well. My job is to
Speaker 1: get people who are half la you know, like Jewel Santana.
Speaker 1: Absolutely not embarrassed, but that's crazy. Always say that I'm
Speaker 1: embarrassed by that. It's never find lem to you. And
Speaker 1: she was here. She had to speak English all the time,
Speaker 1: so when when we came in, we learned English. Now,
Speaker 1: Clark Ken is the man. This is the smartest thing
Speaker 1: you internationally knows, right, Brooklyn niggas know you let me,
Speaker 1: but people in Brooklyn know that Clark is a certain
Speaker 1: way you go through Clark to get somewhere. People. Maybe
Speaker 1: these people come to you and they say they got
Speaker 1: an artist named jazz Old, and jazz Old tells you
Speaker 1: they have an artist named jay Z. Who was your
Speaker 1: first impression of that. Well, I didn't get told that,
Speaker 1: I that that there's an artist named jazz Oh. I
Speaker 1: knew Jazz because he was working with Fresh Gordon, because
Speaker 1: Z was down with Fresh Vowdon. He was down Fresh Gordon,
Speaker 1: fresh from Marshie. No, no, I don't know if any
Speaker 1: of the sets is just being a questioned right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't ask question qualified. I bought guy. Yeah, jazz
Speaker 1: O was my man already. And Jazzo used to produce
Speaker 1: Chad who lived up the block from me, Chad Elliott.
Speaker 1: Fresh Gordon was one of my my, my good friends,
Speaker 1: and and they used to work together on records and
Speaker 1: producing other people as such. And Jazz was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you gotta hear my man. This is like forever ago.
Speaker 2: And it was Jake and I was in.
Speaker 1: Mind who said you gotta hear my man Jazz. But
Speaker 1: the thing is like, when you knew jazz, you felt
Speaker 1: like jazz was like the best thing in the whole
Speaker 1: world in Brooklyn. He was untouchable. Wow, Like if you
Speaker 1: really knew and you listened to rhymes a certain way,
Speaker 1: like he was really untouchable. And then he brings this
Speaker 1: dude who's as good as him but has a little
Speaker 1: more swagger to him. But not back then, did you know?
Speaker 1: Not back then then he had a little yeah that
Speaker 1: no on Hawaiian Sophie.
Speaker 2: It was already drunk Hawaii.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what he's saying going right now, It's okay.
Speaker 14: It was a soundtrack, it wasn't a sound You got
Speaker 14: people listening to you, man, we can talk.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So Jazz is like, you gotta hear my man here,
Speaker 1: his man, his man is light. So when I got
Speaker 1: my first job at a record a record company, in
Speaker 1: between these times because Jazz is my man, every there
Speaker 1: was a bunch of times that he did shows and
Speaker 1: he would call me like yo, DJ for me at
Speaker 1: the show, and Jay would be there. So I would
Speaker 1: get to hear these two rhymes all the time. And
Speaker 1: I always thought to myself like these like might be
Speaker 1: the two best motherfuckers in the whole world. Wow. So
Speaker 1: you know, time goes on. I get this job, I
Speaker 1: get the job at Atlantic Records. I think at day
Speaker 1: one and a half, I was like, where's jay Z,
Speaker 1: Where's Jazz? Where's jay Z? Where's Jazz? I found Jazz first,
Speaker 1: and Jazz was like, I gotta find jay Z. And
Speaker 1: then shirt King Fade from Queens. Yeah, okay because he
Speaker 1: wanted to say that, right of course I did.
Speaker 2: Well, who's that?
Speaker 1: Because I don't know if listens at Jane is one
Speaker 1: of the shirt Kings, but these name was Punky Fade. Now,
Speaker 1: shirt Kings was like a very popular place in the Coloseum,
Speaker 1: more than Jamaica Queens.
Speaker 2: That is like, you understand that everybody from New York.
Speaker 1: Okay, with all due respect, if we're saying shirt kings
Speaker 1: and he can agree shirt Kings. Anybody who listened to this,
Speaker 1: if you if you go on Google and you guilt
Speaker 1: up shirts, get your Google shirt Kings and you'll be
Speaker 1: learning something that was important at that time, and shirt
Speaker 1: Kings were important. Funky Fade and Nike was super important
Speaker 1: than hip hop, and they were a part of the
Speaker 1: thing that we were doing. They were making graffiti shirts
Speaker 1: and shirts with characters, and anybody who was doing anything
Speaker 1: hip hop at that recise moment tried to get a
Speaker 1: shirtcase shirt. There was a bunch of people who were
Speaker 1: go to the wall.
Speaker 6: There was a bunch of people we were scaredrus shirts
Speaker 6: back then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there were legend. They were legend like
Speaker 1: like like like people will take pictures and like in
Speaker 1: front of this.
Speaker 2: So when we were seeing that in other cities, they
Speaker 2: were emulating them.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent.
Speaker 2: You see any with a big.
Speaker 1: Shirt, We were saying anything hip hop in any other city.
Speaker 1: They were trying to duplicate ship that we had already done,
Speaker 1: not that we were doing ship that we had already done,
Speaker 1: Like we built hip hop and then we let everybody.
Speaker 2: Else saw York.
Speaker 15: Yeah yeah, well that's absolutely be talking about absolutely, but
Speaker 15: I mean it evolved in a changed and each city
Speaker 15: did its own part.
Speaker 1: Of it, but they anything that they did. If we
Speaker 1: didn't have this foundation and ship that they worked from,
Speaker 1: there would be no rap, if there was no hippo.
Speaker 1: I just want to say, I want to say it
Speaker 1: like that so that when you say, when you look
Speaker 1: at somebody else and you see it in another city,
Speaker 1: it kind of has context or another country, it has
Speaker 1: context that it came from this.
Speaker 2: Absolutely okay cool, but also on some fan ship, what
Speaker 2: made you?
Speaker 6: And I'm privy to all these stories already because I've
Speaker 6: been around you forever, what did you hear from Jay
Speaker 6: that made you say that these two are the best.
Speaker 1: And you know, this is the reason why I want
Speaker 1: to know what you heard, man. And I'm the same
Speaker 1: thing as this question, because I remember you talking about
Speaker 1: Jay when everybody was like, clock, it's crazy.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna make I'm gonna make them tell another story
Speaker 6: after this.
Speaker 1: One, but go ahead ahead, so like like, so re
Speaker 1: iterated when he asked, like, what made you see what
Speaker 1: did you here? Like she was crazy? Because I know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, you and Dame Dash can't really get along
Speaker 1: because yeah, he goes, yeah, yeah, that's funny you say that,
Speaker 1: because Dame is really my man. He's my man. You know,
Speaker 1: he's my man. You know what, he's my man. I
Speaker 1: can't say anything negative about him. I can't even if
Speaker 1: I try. The things that I would say, it would
Speaker 1: be negative between me and him into the world. It
Speaker 1: would be like, but y'all a friends, So it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be that way, you know what I'm saying. The
Speaker 1: ship that I could say negative about him, mayor who's
Speaker 1: my ace? People would go, well, y'all the friends are
Speaker 1: supposed to be that way. We fighting don't talk for
Speaker 1: a year and a half, but he's still my nigga.
Speaker 1: Like no one would know he was fighting. We'd be
Speaker 1: something no, no with you. He's gonna try sitting on
Speaker 1: my shot. I don't care how God so so far
Speaker 1: for got God.
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 1: Wait wait twenty yeah wait wait wait, sit down now,
Speaker 1: RELs what we're gonna do while we're here. If you
Speaker 1: asked me a question, on gonna finish the answer?
Speaker 2: What was the question?
Speaker 1: What did I see?
Speaker 2: What did you hear from Jane?
Speaker 1: Why are you fucking interview? Let me live an interview.
Speaker 1: I'm interviewing. If you don't want to, that's on, y'all.
Speaker 6: An interview, my podcast, interview with that, y'all come on.
Speaker 1: I like to give context to answers. So when I
Speaker 1: was growing up, when everybody looked and they saw Melle
Speaker 1: Mel Rap and they thought, this is motherfucker is the
Speaker 1: illest ship I saw great, I saw Grandmaster casts and
Speaker 1: I was like, he's to me, he's to me, he's
Speaker 1: a little iller. See them when time's going on and
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about whomever. I heard Rock came around when
Speaker 1: he was eleven, and I was like, wow, at eleven,
Speaker 1: he was a wild boy. You I was DJing at
Speaker 1: Amityville Day on King Charles DJ set King Charles, some queens.
Speaker 1: Where was this at? It was in Amityville. I was DJing.
Speaker 1: I was young too. I was DJing at Amityville Day
Speaker 1: no Wine Dance Day. Sorry, I was big. I did
Speaker 1: both of those. I did both of those days like
Speaker 1: I would do Wine Dance Day, d jing and and
Speaker 1: and Amityville Day djay and and I was DJ and
Speaker 1: Wine Dance Day. And a little dude on the mic
Speaker 1: was rock him eleven on a crate and he was
Speaker 1: he was just wilding for a little dude. He was eleven,
Speaker 1: like he could tell you this story because he knows
Speaker 1: it's true that it was me and him. But I
Speaker 1: watched him at eleven. And I was young too. I
Speaker 1: mean he's he's like what two years younger than me.
Speaker 1: It was wild to see this dude dj and at thirteen. Well,
Speaker 1: I was DJing at nine. But I was playing parks
Speaker 1: at twelve. No games here like barks because people that's
Speaker 1: not from New York City. I'm gonna do no. No,
Speaker 1: I mean important was ill the people to everybody back then,
Speaker 1: like like eighty nine ninety early nine, people didn't really
Speaker 1: go to clubs they went to.
Speaker 2: This is before even that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and for him to say that, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: God damn, this motherfucker got me Africa. That's what I say.
Speaker 1: Home more shot, Let's do it. That's South Africa now,
Speaker 1: God damn y Michael Pink Pong what that's that's another rock.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to throw it out there, smoothing back
Speaker 1: in the world. Oh my god, figg a little water
Speaker 1: hydrate or something, Joe, because yo Claw, so you worked
Speaker 1: with Jay. I was given context to the answer, but
Speaker 1: I got an interview, know what I'm saying. I would
Speaker 1: look at the rappers that I would seeing. I would
Speaker 1: I would try to figure out who I thought was better.
Speaker 1: But see, at one point I realized that what people
Speaker 1: were looking at and thinking was better was probably different
Speaker 1: than what I was thinking and looking at was better.
Speaker 1: I looked at bar for bar for bar for bar
Speaker 1: for bar, What did you say? How clever was it?
Speaker 1: How witty was it? And then I decided, if what
Speaker 1: you said was iller, then the next guy that everybody's
Speaker 1: looking at. So when people were looking at KRS and whomever,
Speaker 1: I was like, ignowed a rock him. Dude, he's he's
Speaker 1: the wildest. And the reason why I thought rock Kim
Speaker 1: was the wildest is because when rock Him made his
Speaker 1: first record, rap changed one hundred percent. Nobody wasn't Nobody
Speaker 1: wasn't rapping anymore. They started rhyming. When rock Kim made
Speaker 1: his first record. Rock Kien was sixteen when his Reggord
Speaker 1: cameing out a lot of people don't believe that. Wait,
Speaker 1: what record? Being rock Him, he was like the sixteen
Speaker 1: or seventeen. He was like, you have to understand, think
Speaker 1: about what I'm telling him. I was young and he's
Speaker 1: younger than me. So he was young when that Reggie
Speaker 1: came out. He wasn't legal when when My My Melody
Speaker 1: came out. Wow, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I was think about.
Speaker 1: You was younger than that. Nor he was young. Nory
Speaker 1: was young when he was doing work when you did
Speaker 1: the work for seventeen love. Yeah, the first time I
Speaker 1: met Normy, he's not going to remember because Tragedy introduced
Speaker 1: me to him, and he was wow. Young. But he
Speaker 1: introduced me to Poem before he introduced me to him,
Speaker 1: because Poem was from the projects with him, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But when I brought him around, it
Speaker 1: became more of a oh, I know this nigga. Now
Speaker 1: I know this nigga, and then it wasn't like I
Speaker 1: know this nigga, like I want to produce him. I
Speaker 1: was like, no, Norris, my fucking man, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Oh did we take that shot around?
Speaker 2: Was your favorite number?
Speaker 1: And damn this is my nigga. Okay. So, like I said,
Speaker 1: I saw it when I heard it, I heard jazz.
Speaker 1: Like I said, when I heard Jazz rhyme, the complexity
Speaker 1: and the things he was saying, the bar for bar
Speaker 1: for bar ship that he was saying, I was like, no,
Speaker 1: he's the best rapping in the universe. Yes, because he
Speaker 1: was super smart and he projected the smart ship that
Speaker 1: he was saying in his bars. And then he introduces
Speaker 1: me to this guy who's instead of being as smart,
Speaker 1: he's wittier. Yo. When you're rhyming, the wittier ship hits
Speaker 1: your chest a lot quicker than the smart ship. So
Speaker 1: you walk away from it being fucked up. Like I
Speaker 1: pack heat like the oven door, like as many motherfuckers
Speaker 1: put something in the oven. They never looked at that
Speaker 1: ship and was like, oh, ship, that's packing heat. This
Speaker 1: nigga said that shit like what made him so witty?
Speaker 1: He was beyond most dudes, and he didn't think of
Speaker 1: things one way, and you could tell it when I
Speaker 1: met him. The things he was saying, like you met him,
Speaker 1: was he writing rhymes on paper. He might have been
Speaker 1: writing rounds on paper then, but when it got to
Speaker 1: the point where he was running around with cane and
Speaker 1: all of that, like, nah, there was no but he
Speaker 1: has to understand. He was getting to the money, so
Speaker 1: there was no time to put a pen on it.
Speaker 1: But at that precise moment when he introduced me to him,
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, he's just as wild as jazz,
Speaker 1: but he has a little more that other thing. The
Speaker 1: thing is I didn't know nothing about making records at
Speaker 1: that point, and he didn't know anything. But we were
Speaker 1: all young. But I listened and I was like, nah,
Speaker 1: he might be illed th in jazz. I never said it,
Speaker 1: but I thought it to myself, like he might be
Speaker 1: illing in jazz, but not saying that his rhymes were better.
Speaker 1: But like the way he was approaching his rhymes was
Speaker 1: a little iller like jazz is a nigga who would
Speaker 1: say I mont blocked the paper satellite ridium. What the
Speaker 1: fuck is a mob block? And then when you realize
Speaker 1: it's a pen, you're like, all right, Jazz, all right, research,
Speaker 1: Like we can't afford my blanc pens. Nigga, how do
Speaker 1: you know what is the satellite I Ridium? The satellite
Speaker 1: I Ridium is a phone that can work anywhere. Like,
Speaker 1: who the fuck knows, my nigga, But this nigga was
Speaker 1: saying that shit. So when Jay, when Jazz was saying
Speaker 1: that shit, I'm looking at him like, yeah, ain't nobody
Speaker 1: in the world better than this nigga?
Speaker 16: And we had the.
Speaker 1: Rise, we had the canes, we had the care wrestlers,
Speaker 1: we had everybody. I was going nine, nigga not better
Speaker 1: than Jazz. Oh, but his man's was his man's turned
Speaker 1: the corner. Now you see Did you see that he
Speaker 1: would be this where he's at now? Absolutely you see it? Then, No,
Speaker 1: I saw it as soon as I got in touch
Speaker 1: with him, Because what most people don't know is when
Speaker 1: I got in touch with him, it wasn't so weakd
Speaker 1: do his records. It was so that we could do
Speaker 1: him and Jazz records. So that's supposed to be the
Speaker 1: best best Jay and Jezz, No no, no, it was
Speaker 1: supposed they were the best period. They were saying the world,
Speaker 1: there's no world, one world, them two dudes is the best.
Speaker 1: And that's all I thought, and that's all I cared about.
Speaker 1: I want these niggas to be the best. Someone niggas
Speaker 1: hear these niggas and be like, what the fuck is
Speaker 1: happening in all of rap history? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But the records didn't turn around that way, and jazz
Speaker 1: wasn't around as much, so Jay made more records by himself,
Speaker 1: and you know, like if you were there, you were like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: this is going to be the wildest ship ever because
Speaker 1: he was so nice, Like dude was nice because you
Speaker 1: know why I say nice? You know why I say that,
Speaker 1: because like the world like they understood Reasonable Doubt? Well,
Speaker 1: what was the album right after Reasonable with Doubt? In
Speaker 1: my lifetime? For one? Okay, Well that's when the world
Speaker 1: actually like, like I mean, the rest of the world,
Speaker 1: who was slow? But for you to know that early on,
Speaker 1: it's something special, you know what I'm saying. A lot
Speaker 1: of people ask that was slept though I'm talking about
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, Like two years later,
Speaker 1: people was like, Damn, that was a classic. It might
Speaker 1: have been his, but in context Original Flavor, like where
Speaker 1: is this all this landing? Just so were landing like
Speaker 1: him working with Original Flavor. No, you don't understand, Like
Speaker 1: I was working with Jay before I signed Original Flavor,
Speaker 1: and it's just that while I was working with him,
Speaker 1: I signed Original Flavor and I signed the Future Sound,
Speaker 1: I signed Damon's groups. I met Damon, but I was like, Dame,
Speaker 1: you need to meet my man. My man's yellow than
Speaker 1: anything you've ever seen. Talked about jazz. Get talking about
Speaker 1: Jay because you have to understand what you're talking about,
Speaker 1: cause that's right. You introduced jay Z rightow? Crazy? Is
Speaker 1: this true? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Like it's no.
Speaker 2: Ho history, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: We gotta go four shots continue clock number now five
Speaker 1: is five. I'm odd enough nigga. If I go four,
Speaker 1: that means I mind, it's my fault. If I go
Speaker 1: for that means my is to go five because I'm
Speaker 1: an odd nigga. Wow, Like I like being odd. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be respect that. Where's the bottle he's
Speaker 1: drinking from? All drinking from you? Is it real? It's real?
Speaker 2: Trust me?
Speaker 1: Please? What I'm drinking, I'll drink what you That's okay,
Speaker 1: It's okay. Don't look over here with that look. Give
Speaker 1: you that queen's looking. We're gonna look like relaxed noor
Speaker 1: and give you the queens look. I can hand clock,
Speaker 1: but continue. Yeah story you were saying, Yeah, you asked
Speaker 1: me about original flavor, original flavor, and those those things
Speaker 1: were happening at the same time as I was doing
Speaker 1: records on Ja and trying to make sure that I
Speaker 1: was doing records on Jay and Jazz, and they introduced
Speaker 1: me to Sauce Money, so it was all three of them. Like,
Speaker 1: we were doing an album on Jay, Jazz and Sauce
Speaker 1: called The Hard Pack Pause, and we were doing that.
Speaker 1: I was working on songs for Jay and Jazz, which
Speaker 1: was I thought was what it was supposed to be.
Speaker 1: And then in the middle of that, I was doing
Speaker 1: j J solo records and I was doing Sauce solo records.
Speaker 1: I never did Jazz so Jazz solo records because Jazz
Speaker 1: was a producer and records wind up being on reasonable doubt,
Speaker 1: the two of them did. It was supposed to be three,
Speaker 1: but we lost a dat right before Master look at
Speaker 1: records made man thoughts and uh joint with Bleak Coming Age.
Speaker 1: Why couldn't I remember I didn't know that. I know
Speaker 1: you did, cash Man, that's one of my favorite records.
Speaker 1: I didn't know you did. Come and ask your man.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, yeah, but so, But what I'm saying is,
Speaker 1: are you aware of what I'm saying? Like when Reasonable
Speaker 1: Doc came out, I knew it, but it was like
Speaker 1: the industry I'm not talking to understand me. I don't
Speaker 1: care what the industry was thinking. He still knew. I knew.
Speaker 1: I was one hundred percent sure. Actually I was one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty percent sure. And I used to tell
Speaker 1: people you would apologize later, and a lot of niggas records, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it didn't matter what label it came on. I told
Speaker 1: niggas they would apologize and for sure. For years straight,
Speaker 1: every time I saw a dude in the game, it
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you was right, nigga, that's an apology.
Speaker 1: You know, nobody wants to tell the niggas was right
Speaker 1: when he thinks he's one hundred percent produced. Ain't no
Speaker 1: nigga jazz jazz jazz? Oh yeah, that's why it has
Speaker 1: so much of him on it, Like you know, what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He wrote the hook too. I know he
Speaker 1: didn't write the hook. He's saying the hook because the
Speaker 1: record is ain't no nigga like him. When I got
Speaker 1: can't fuck you bet. The one who's singing that is Jazz.
Speaker 1: That's Jazz singing that. Oh, by the way, Jazz could
Speaker 1: sing his ass off Jazz on the hook. Writer, you
Speaker 1: can get Jazz on right now. Jazz have me goddamn.
Speaker 1: But Jazz is a real, real ill music dude. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He's a producer, he's a songwriter,
Speaker 1: and he's a rap writer. Like to me, if like
Speaker 1: a chick found Jazz oh and like sat him down
Speaker 1: and had to check, she'd be the wildest chick you've
Speaker 1: ever heard because of the rhymes that he would write
Speaker 1: for her. Oh okay, that's what I'm saying. Like if
Speaker 1: he said and shut it down, I'll tak you about
Speaker 1: the ass you want to go. I don't know I
Speaker 1: sat down like.
Speaker 2: I want to talk about.
Speaker 1: He's paying the media. He's just coming out of him.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Clark, I misjudged you. I miss justice. So
Speaker 1: now you've worked you arguably, you've worked with Big, you
Speaker 1: worked with Jay, I worked with Nori you worked with
Speaker 1: But before that, there's this kid that comes out called
Speaker 1: nas Yeah, well you know about that. I would like
Speaker 1: to hear your story. So what story is not a story?
Speaker 1: It is the true who got a story about everything?
Speaker 1: You're a legend, nigga, expect you, nigga, tell me about it.
Speaker 1: I used to produce most of it. Like the studio
Speaker 1: I worked in most of the time was power Play
Speaker 1: in Queen and Queens that talk about you hype you
Speaker 1: hype on Queens right now? Okay, so that was probably
Speaker 1: like the most hip hop studio in New York City
Speaker 1: at that time was power Play. Makes mose of that
Speaker 1: Our first record I ever recorded as O Poning and
Speaker 1: Oriega was in power Play Studios. It's called half a
Speaker 1: mil mill. I got that wreckor you got that record?
Speaker 1: I got? That was like the first like I have
Speaker 1: recorded records as Arison Oriega, but copone no copone been home.
Speaker 1: I had came home and I couldn't reach him. And
Speaker 1: the first record we recorded, the go have to Go
Speaker 1: half a mild confused the rapper half a mil no,
Speaker 1: not big up. He was nice. Yeah, he was that
Speaker 1: big of Brooklyn Brooklyn. He's on Penalty Records. That was
Speaker 1: my man. Everybody always hit me on on Twitter and
Speaker 1: tell me talk about him in the podcast. I'm glad
Speaker 1: his name got brought up because Big of a half
Speaker 1: a meal with half a meal with the dead Nights
Speaker 1: from Crown Heights too well, Crown Heights, Brown Crown Heights.
Speaker 1: He was on the border of Crown Heights and bed Style.
Speaker 1: Your you was the official Brooklyn representative. Now I'm a
Speaker 1: thousand percent is Brooklyn con Spike Lee. I heard they
Speaker 1: try to band Spike Lee, and I heard you had
Speaker 1: to shut it down one time. I don't even know
Speaker 1: what the fuck. Yes, absolutely, yes, yes, God damn ybody
Speaker 1: come to see him too. I heard it trying to
Speaker 1: shut down do the right thing, and I heard you
Speaker 1: had to come up. Yo. Let just goruk.
Speaker 2: That's amazing.
Speaker 1: I made it up right now, Okay. Power Play Studios,
Speaker 1: I was remixing a bunch of records and that's the
Speaker 1: place I would do all the records at. And in
Speaker 1: the next room, I was always large professor, Who's who's
Speaker 1: my man? And he uh he did the barbecue, live
Speaker 1: the barbecue, and when he did live at the barbecue,
Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, come here this record. I'm here
Speaker 1: in the record, and I'm like, whoa, He's going the
Speaker 1: fuck it's this nigga And he was like, Oh, that's
Speaker 1: my nigga. Now some queens, but Nigga and was on it.
Speaker 1: And I was like and I went crazy too. So
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, hold on talking because I just
Speaker 1: don't like the way he's like nonchalant describing one of
Speaker 1: the craziest records in hip hop history. What's live at
Speaker 1: the barbecue? He's just saying he was at the session. No,
Speaker 1: I wasn't at the session. I was at when he
Speaker 1: was mixing the record. The record was done, and I
Speaker 1: was log, is my man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He was like, listen to it. So I listened, and
Speaker 1: I was because I paid so much attention to rap.
Speaker 1: I was like, who's who's Who's Who's You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And that's the ship. He said he went
Speaker 1: to hell for snuffing Jesus. Yeah, Like anybody who says
Speaker 1: some shit like that, I'm gonna pay a lot of
Speaker 1: I was like, Nigga said, when I was twelve, I
Speaker 1: went to help a sluffing Jesus. Yeah, that's nasty. Not continue.
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking you like seventeen, so for five years
Speaker 1: after you lived after snuffing Jesus, you nice, you know?
Speaker 1: But anyway he's dead. Nice herod. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm cool, I'm good boy, so I'm god. I hear
Speaker 1: on my hair, on my hair, on my hair, everybody.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know how the records l whatever keep going?
Speaker 1: And then Lodge is working on Ox album and I
Speaker 1: went into a bidding war between in the Scope because
Speaker 1: I was working at Atlantic Records and I was trying
Speaker 1: to sign OT and I was in the bidding war
Speaker 1: between Atlantic and UH and in the Scope. The crazy
Speaker 1: part is like I kept trying to tell like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know Atlantic is it owns in the Scope, so
Speaker 1: like this bidding war makes no sense. Fuck with your man,
Speaker 1: And they gave him more money, so he fucked that.
Speaker 1: So then I was then one day he was like, yo,
Speaker 1: what about NAS And I was like, fuck, yeah, bring them.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking where bring them to me? At Atlantic Records.
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking, Okay, your album's done. That means his
Speaker 1: album must be done because Ox album was done when
Speaker 1: they were shopping them, like Lodge was he was. I
Speaker 1: think Lodge might have been like probably way ahead of
Speaker 1: his time because he finished the albums before he was
Speaker 1: like shopping them ship. So he finished he finished Ox
Speaker 1: album before he was shocking it shopping it. So like
Speaker 1: the bidding water that I'm in is for a whole album.
Speaker 1: I've lost Professor Joints like lost Ox whole album. And
Speaker 1: I was like this, what the fuck is happening here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he did everything on there. He just just
Speaker 1: about everything on there. I think Rob Swift might have
Speaker 1: done the record. No, somebody else might have did one record,
Speaker 1: but it was it was, here's this album, what you're
Speaker 1: gonna do? And I was like funk. I wanted. Plus
Speaker 1: I was on my man, so I definitely wanted to
Speaker 1: sign it. So the bid and what happened. I lost
Speaker 1: to Benning War But then I mean even like because
Speaker 1: he's my man, he was like kind of trying to
Speaker 1: smooth sh it over. He was like, yo, but what
Speaker 1: about nos And I was like nas niggas telling me reminded. No,
Speaker 1: he didn't have to remind me. He put it up.
Speaker 1: He was he was like got on because he got on.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, like this is a week after
Speaker 1: he got on. So he's like, Yo, but whatever, big niggas.
Speaker 1: Man want to get some clarity of things, all right?
Speaker 1: Like I know since he was a young boy, his
Speaker 1: brother Yachty, I like, I know his whole fans he
Speaker 1: was young. Looks. Look at the reason I know him
Speaker 1: is because of how much I used to be in
Speaker 1: Left Right and I knew Poppy when he was in
Speaker 1: the left rack. Make you so when I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: I wrote that ship on Twitter and was like, Yo, nigga,
Speaker 1: I know you Poppy. He was like, yn't forget it,
Speaker 1: so trust me. He was like, we don't need that style,
Speaker 1: Paris style. You gotta do it like that. I was like,
Speaker 1: doing it because you know why? This doesn't changed the
Speaker 1: bottle temperature a right? Man? If I hold it like this,
Speaker 1: Look my hand is all cold. My hand is all hot.
Speaker 1: You don't know if I jerked off or not. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But you do it like this,
Speaker 1: we get a new bottle.
Speaker 2: The bottle got violated.
Speaker 1: Look in your mind about it, right, You see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Look, I'm gonna go back. He's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: what about nods though, I'm gonna bring nods through and
Speaker 1: I was like absolutely, So he brings them. We're sitting down.
Speaker 1: We had Atlantic Records, and I go let me hear it,
Speaker 1: and he goes hear what And I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: give me the demo on this nigg and he was like,
Speaker 1: I don't have no demo. Clock he ain't got no
Speaker 1: songs right now. And I'm just like I couldn't sign.
Speaker 1: But the reason why you need a demo because you
Speaker 1: needed to bring it. You had to bring it there.
Speaker 1: I had to bring it to my boss and my
Speaker 1: boss had to hear why. I was saying, he's the
Speaker 1: guy to sign one record. Understand me. No, he had
Speaker 1: lived to barbecue and I was trying to convinced somebody
Speaker 1: off of one record, so like you have to understand,
Speaker 1: like beforehand, like I was going this dude Nas, this
Speaker 1: dude can Elly and all of these dudes who were around.
Speaker 1: I was talking to my boss about it. But then
Speaker 1: when I was like, he's gonna bring Nas to the office,
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, Nas is coming, and she was like, well,
Speaker 1: tell me what it is when you hear it. Because
Speaker 1: I kept saying like this nigga's crazy. He said he's
Speaker 1: gonna snuff Jesus. You know, anybody snuffing Jesus is Wow,
Speaker 1: he's wild with a dude who's gonna snuff Jesus, even
Speaker 1: though it sounds a little wild because like I believe
Speaker 1: in God. I'm just saying, but he's musically exactly artistically.
Speaker 1: So when he's sitting there, he doesn't have a demo,
Speaker 1: and I was. I turned and the thing is like,
Speaker 1: Nas is dumb young at this time. So I'm talking
Speaker 1: to ok and I'm like, I I can't sign an
Speaker 1: artist with out a demo because I wasn't a vice
Speaker 1: president at that point. I wasn't even the rector. I
Speaker 1: was a manager of Vana, Like I was way low
Speaker 1: down the tote him pull at that moment. But I
Speaker 1: was like, dude, like when we I said, we just
Speaker 1: signed dos Effects, they had a whole album, Like I said,
Speaker 1: Parish Smith brought me a whole album. So he was like,
Speaker 1: okay album. Yeah, I was part of that. Understand me though,
Speaker 1: So every everything goes away and I don't get to
Speaker 1: sign him, and he starts, he meets searching. Whatever happens
Speaker 1: right later on Nas makes a record. Now I understand me.
Speaker 1: I had to talk to him about this ship because
Speaker 1: it was hilarious to me. He was like, he made
Speaker 1: the record and was like, NADS wouldn't sign because he
Speaker 1: just signed Effects. And I was like, what the fuck
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Nas? He said that in a record.
Speaker 1: He said Clark wouldn't sign me because he signed Effects,
Speaker 1: and I was like, wait a minute, wait wait, I
Speaker 1: was like, that's a free way. No, it's a record.
Speaker 1: It's on one of his albums. I don't don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong. I don't remember what it was, but what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is he said, you know what's You know
Speaker 1: why I know they said it because no one listens
Speaker 1: to rap closer than me. So when somebody makes an album,
Speaker 1: I listened to every bar because I want to know
Speaker 1: who's nice. I want to start differentiating motherfuckers real quick.
Speaker 11: Like.
Speaker 1: So, like I said, he said that, and I was like, Yo, look,
Speaker 1: I swear to god, I heard that ship in like
Speaker 1: three seconds later. I was on the phone with I
Speaker 1: was like, yo, I remember, but to the office, he
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, Clark White, the fuck you're asking me that?
Speaker 1: I said. Remember when he's when I couldn't sign him,
Speaker 1: He was like, you, mama could He was like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: had no demo. I was like, okay, I think you
Speaker 1: need to tell him what you're talking about. I said,
Speaker 1: Nigga just said I didn't sign him because I signed
Speaker 1: do Effects. I said, what kind of fucking answer is that? Boy? Like,
Speaker 1: who says, now I'm not going to sign you nas
Speaker 1: because I signed effects? Because that's probably how he looked
Speaker 1: at it though, and all all fitness, with all due respect,
Speaker 1: because it's two times I said I need a demo
Speaker 1: to sign you. That's why I didn't sign you. So
Speaker 1: I saw him at Revolt last year. Revolt we was
Speaker 1: on the vote together and he was like, my nigga.
Speaker 1: I was like, my nigga, come here for a second.
Speaker 1: I know it might seem a little petty, but he's
Speaker 1: my nigga. So I got a petty This.
Speaker 6: Is what.
Speaker 1: Listen, listen, are you a gentleman manager? My ship is
Speaker 1: is that I'm not petty. It's just that I wanted
Speaker 1: I think I wanted him to be clear because it
Speaker 1: fucked with me for all these years that he thought
Speaker 1: something so crazy and I pulled them over as me
Speaker 1: him Andre, I was like, who knows? He came to
Speaker 1: my studio. I mean he came to my office and
Speaker 1: he was with was like yeah, I said remember when
Speaker 1: we went when I couldn't sign you. He's like yeah.
Speaker 1: I said, do you remember why? He said I think
Speaker 1: it was like like, I think it was something with that.
Speaker 1: I said, no, remember you didn't have a demo and
Speaker 1: he was like the rhyme came out? Yeah. Last now
Speaker 1: on the Point Boat Cruise and I was DJing on
Speaker 1: and I seen him. It was me and and Andrea.
Speaker 1: I swear to god, I pulled him to the side.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yean Andre, you could listen to like I
Speaker 1: didn't give a funk. I was like, do you remember that?
Speaker 1: He was like yeah. He was like yeah, can't you
Speaker 1: offic I brought me there and I was like yeah,
Speaker 1: and I said remember I was trying to sign you
Speaker 1: and he was like yeah. He was like, I said,
Speaker 1: do you remember why didn't sign you? He was like yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it was you know, over the summer, that's
Speaker 1: if it's I said, no, remember I said I can't
Speaker 1: sign anybody without a demo. He was like yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't have no demo. I was like, that's why you
Speaker 1: didn't get signed and said, dog, you made a record,
Speaker 1: saying I didn't. He was like damn man, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I just didn't remember it right. Andre Herrel is standing
Speaker 1: there going you know, Andre, of course he was. I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, who the fuck wouldn't He was like,
Speaker 1: nobody was gonna sign ups. I was like, this is
Speaker 1: the nicest nigga around At that point, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: sign now listening to the bars. Yeah, I was listening
Speaker 1: to the bars, and I was trying to sign us
Speaker 1: like before everybody, like before anybody heard a song before halftime. Fuck, nope,
Speaker 1: you understand me. He got with search later in back
Speaker 1: to the grill. I'm talking before soon as he said,
Speaker 1: snuffing Jesus, I was like, I'm in. I'm in. I
Speaker 1: like this guy. Let's make some noise for that. I
Speaker 1: feel like we just take it at the shot. I
Speaker 1: don't know if people are you know what this adds to.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, I'm not eve gonna say that because
Speaker 1: I have a feeling you're gonna go there no clock. Listen.
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you something. I gotta take a
Speaker 1: bone the house. I mean to tell you something so
Speaker 1: you're not gett drunk. If you want to go with you,
Speaker 1: I don't make a company that it ain't my fault.
Speaker 1: It's just it's only for looks. The tag of bright
Speaker 1: now yah, it's only to stock. Yeah, we got to stock,
Speaker 1: but but we gotta leave it there for for cultural
Speaker 1: purposes only, artistic cultural purposes, autistic cultural purposes. That next question, So, Clark,
Speaker 1: you've done everything I want to be good that you
Speaker 1: sent out the other day and you said Rick Ross
Speaker 1: album it's crazy, and I got a one hundred per
Speaker 1: agree with you. But if you have the one hundred
Speaker 1: percent agree with me, why is there but because I
Speaker 1: want to say, I want to say, he's this era's
Speaker 1: version of Biggie or is now I'm not just no,
Speaker 1: he's this avers version of Rick Ross. No one's ever
Speaker 1: gonna be any era of Biggie. But what I mean
Speaker 1: by there's nothing you can say that's gonna fix that,
Speaker 1: there's nothing you say that. Listen. If you say Cadence
Speaker 1: and flowed, then that's Rick Ross. You know. If you
Speaker 1: say bars, then you're talking about Biggie. You don't think
Speaker 1: we're done. I explained it just now you ain't gonna
Speaker 1: ask me, don't do that, don't do that, don't do that,
Speaker 1: don't do that, don't do that. Don't do that. We
Speaker 1: don't do that.
Speaker 12: Man, Relax, relax, But his albums hard. This album's fire, fire, fire.
Speaker 1: This is, without a doubt, no question, the best body
Speaker 1: of work he's ever done. Okay, now I'm gonna throw
Speaker 1: you a curve ball. Did you listen to More Life? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: I feel like that's his best body of work. We
Speaker 1: just like that's Drake's ever If you take the singing
Speaker 1: records off of that album, that Ship hip hop know
Speaker 1: that Ship is a five mic album right there. Hold on,
Speaker 1: I want to. I want to. I want to visualize
Speaker 1: because it's twenty I'm an honest nigga. There's twenty tracks
Speaker 1: on there. Correct you're saying, I want to be clear
Speaker 1: what you're saying, because you're a hip hop god. It's like,
Speaker 1: so you're saying to me, there's two good singing records,
Speaker 1: that Medieva Beat and the Love all the singing in
Speaker 1: my mind every time I listen to it, I'm on Molly,
Speaker 1: this is crazy music. Sometimes maybe feel like I'm on drug.
Speaker 1: I want to say it, but I like, no, listen, listen.
Speaker 1: I'm just like some ship and and this is real
Speaker 1: nigga ship. When I listen to Drake's albums, Drake's music period.
Speaker 1: I don't listen to him like he's a rapper. I
Speaker 1: listen to him like he's an artist. And if I
Speaker 1: can listen to him like he's an artist, I can
Speaker 1: take every day, take everything. But if you're gonna, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna ask me that album, if the ship is
Speaker 1: that's his best body of work, yes, But if you
Speaker 1: take the singing records over that ship, that'sh It's like
Speaker 1: that's a five mic album. You're saying he could fit. No, No,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is the ship is amazing. It's amazing, yo,
Speaker 1: and and like other than well you you want to
Speaker 1: know what's crazy. It's not even about the fact that
Speaker 1: he could spit. It's about that the records are like
Speaker 1: a fucking girl, like he made dope records. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's just that some of them singing records.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, dude, he's so nice. Give them ships away.
Speaker 1: So you're saying, no, no, no, Understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When I say and I say give him away, it's
Speaker 1: like give you another artists, Give those singing joints of
Speaker 1: somebody else. Give a fucking whole rap album.
Speaker 17: No no, no, no no now now as as a
Speaker 17: hip hop give an artist album, and as a album,
Speaker 17: I do actually would like to see a whole rapping.
Speaker 18: Drink because because I don't know, if you heard that
Speaker 18: joint free, smoke free, smoke free small yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 18: ship reminds me of a Havoc beat and and and
Speaker 18: that moment when I heard that, I said, you know what,
Speaker 18: he's actually tapping into the era of the nineties.
Speaker 1: You want some float, but I'm giving him a new flow.
Speaker 1: So that was a Havoc beat to me. And people
Speaker 1: don't really respect that dude the right way. You know
Speaker 1: why because it's a lot of factors when you look
Speaker 1: at him. But if you took away all the factors
Speaker 1: and just looked at the music, that dude is wild. Wow,
Speaker 1: he's wild. But when you're talking about albums I look
Speaker 1: at I want to look at him as a rapper
Speaker 1: because I heard him rapping like His first record was
Speaker 1: a song with Trey Songs that shit went to Damnar
Speaker 1: number three or four full Yeah, the ship that was No,
Speaker 1: I just want to be No, that's not his first record.
Speaker 1: His first record was a record that was on the
Speaker 1: top ten on fucking on b T one oh six
Speaker 1: in Park. It was wild before he signed with Wayne.
Speaker 1: He had a good record out and it was with
Speaker 1: Tree songs like you know Trae songs for a long time.
Speaker 1: You understand. Listen to what I'm telling you. Listen, niggas,
Speaker 1: do not listen to the bars. I listened to the
Speaker 1: bars and I travel the world. So I saw him
Speaker 1: before he signed with Wayne and he had a record
Speaker 1: out with Trade songs and ship was on BT. I
Speaker 1: can't remember the ship. Can't ask me what it is
Speaker 1: right now, especially after four shots even four shots three? Brother,
Speaker 1: we gotta respect your wish listen. Ask the inn guard
Speaker 1: and you said fall come on the end of guard
Speaker 1: and you said four and then we're going. I don't
Speaker 1: want to go with you. Come on, yeh. I gotta
Speaker 1: salute you. One year anniversary. And what we're doing is
Speaker 1: very disrespectful. Why I mean what we're doing drinking no
Speaker 1: in life. We all we are closing something very could
Speaker 1: for the podcast culture. Oh god, yeah, pressure on me,
Speaker 1: putting pressure on me, and we are celebrating clock Camp,
Speaker 1: Holy ship. Everybody got a relax. We had half masked studios.
Speaker 1: Let's not forget that. Yeah, you had the dude from
Speaker 1: the Bronk Nothing bron Patriots. Yeah, he's in town this weekend.
Speaker 1: Yeah he had Did you did you? Did you? Did
Speaker 1: you interview him?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 1: No, we can't. Yo, you know what, I'm gonna be honest. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know all we care for the whole weekend. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you. This is one real fast
Speaker 1: I know what I do when I get a person here. Right,
Speaker 1: you don't know about him, so you can't really get
Speaker 1: to know. I know all about him, but I'll get
Speaker 1: you kicked out of the league. Okay, cool, because if
Speaker 1: I get your get me kicked out of and I start,
Speaker 1: you gotta get me kicked out of hip hop. No,
Speaker 1: you can never never saying if you can get grunk
Speaker 1: kicked out the league, you might be. I just feel like,
Speaker 1: I just feel like, you know, we might spice up
Speaker 1: his drink boom, give him a Molly in there, and
Speaker 1: just might smile. I'm gonna be honest. You listen, you
Speaker 1: don't know what I mean. The athletes hit me. It
Speaker 1: was like, yo, I want to come on the slim
Speaker 1: and I was like, why are you in the jone?
Speaker 1: You gotta relax when you get out, when you get cut,
Speaker 1: when there's a couple of dudes that hit me, that's
Speaker 1: out the league, and I told him relax. And they
Speaker 1: on ESPN now and they on all that because if
Speaker 1: they were to hit drink Champs, I would have gave
Speaker 1: him that y'all gotta manka buy it ink bomb and
Speaker 1: they would have been like, y'all, can I say say.
Speaker 2: By like y'all, y'all, let's make some noise.
Speaker 1: You mean that not making sense of making perfect sense.
Speaker 1: We gotta open at about our champagne because we're celebrating,
Speaker 1: celebrating Clark Kent Man. Can't you dj all over the world?
Speaker 1: You got who you got deals with Japanese people and
Speaker 1: all that type of ship. What is your favorite place
Speaker 1: to d J at? When you go there, you're just like,
Speaker 1: this is me. You gotta make sure you get to
Speaker 1: shape offs in the morning and at this is this
Speaker 1: is your spot? What's that swat? Probably Japan? I knew
Speaker 1: it's Japan. Probably Japan, Japan, Like like I really actually
Speaker 1: I really actually like DJing here a lot Miami. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When people on Molly well right now this this week,
Speaker 1: it might not be a good representation don't you did
Speaker 1: disrespect my molly, people, people, other people.
Speaker 2: You better let you go, Michael Stick right now, I.
Speaker 1: See on snapchat you were killing that ship last night
Speaker 1: with a bottle of chat Bank. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they put molly in your ship, but a little bit.
Speaker 1: I felt like what major of the operative word at
Speaker 1: the beginning of what you said, But you were killing ship,
Speaker 1: that's what you said. Killing talk had me dancing last night.
Speaker 1: I seen you stepping dancing. I see you dancing. God damn,
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing. Clark hit that week. It's not
Speaker 1: gonna work, but ahead, let's talk about your DJ experience
Speaker 1: last night. No, I was just working. Uh. I don't
Speaker 1: know how I approached DJing. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: approach it differently than much. I mean many, but I
Speaker 1: do believe that I approach it differently than a lot.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. I don't like d jing as
Speaker 1: much as I love music. So because I love music
Speaker 1: more than I like djaying, I approached the way that
Speaker 1: that DJing with a certain amount of care. So you
Speaker 1: know that's why nine times out of ten I end
Speaker 1: up sounding a lot more better. Now I'm good, I
Speaker 1: sound good. Celebrate clock, I can celebrate with from Panama,
Speaker 1: my family on the look. My mom at least got it.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't bug you out of I used to be a
Speaker 1: dude's house with talk about it. I tell you my
Speaker 1: mother was a she right, so like when like you
Speaker 1: have to understand, like I'm really Panamian, so we really
Speaker 1: have my wife is my my fuck. My mother was
Speaker 1: the vice counselor General of Panama. So like fucking with Noriega,
Speaker 1: fucking with General Torio's that was ship that we did
Speaker 1: all the time. So like they weren't. That wasn't Manuel Noriega.
Speaker 1: To me, that was uncle Manny.
Speaker 6: That was.
Speaker 1: No be clear, I'm talking no, no, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: I'm talking about when I was a super care like
Speaker 1: when I was like seven eight, like like she was
Speaker 1: in government, so she dealt with him like that. Wow,
Speaker 1: I got pictures. I posted pictures on on the inter
Speaker 1: at I mean on on on on on Instagram with
Speaker 1: my mother and it was knocked up right down the
Speaker 1: street from from Hood Harris did Heroin.
Speaker 19: That never weared thirty third So man, yes, sir, God
Speaker 19: damn Man's little seeds. Some man, yes, sir, you see
Speaker 19: this other sneak of people out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who is somebody you sat back and said, I
Speaker 1: gotta kill these things because you because you're a rapper,
Speaker 1: because you're not a rapper, because like rap, that's how
Speaker 1: rappers thad. But you know what I'm saying, like, no,
Speaker 1: I mean your family, So your battle. I don't know what. Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it a thousand percent with you. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna mention it. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's had enough drinks. He's not in competition
Speaker 1: with nobody but me, I've been doing you know what
Speaker 1: the flash it is. I'm gonna take a white kid
Speaker 1: that Jordan's sponsored people all this ship a white kid
Speaker 1: and he opened up a museum.
Speaker 6: You ain't see Jordan Gella Yeah, Jordan Yella Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, explain that. I mean, well, he's so.
Speaker 6: All those he sold all them shoes, and he sells
Speaker 6: shoes and he's not like that's a collector because he
Speaker 6: doesn't wear everything. He'll buy something that size. Now the
Speaker 6: side twelve, so I was fourteen, just to say he
Speaker 6: has it right and that's dope. I mean he got
Speaker 6: an ill collections.
Speaker 2: There's a difference if you wear difference, I wear a breath.
Speaker 6: I don't wear a brand new pairs s niggas every day,
Speaker 6: but I wear a brand I could wear a breath.
Speaker 6: I can wear a brand new pair of sneakers every
Speaker 6: day for ten years.
Speaker 1: Wow, But I don't.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not clock. I don't wear them every day.
Speaker 6: I wear air Force three days in a row.
Speaker 1: Then I get rid of it. What about that kid,
Speaker 1: that fat Joe brother around, the kid from Dubai. Is
Speaker 1: he no money kicks? That's one day, one day I'm dirty.
Speaker 1: I'm dirty kicked king. I'm just saying I love that.
Speaker 6: One day you buy I guy, one day he'll buy
Speaker 6: my collection. Shout the money kicks now. But my whole
Speaker 6: thing is I've been doing this ship for so long
Speaker 6: and my this is my this is my this is
Speaker 6: the ill part. So I'm not a rapper, I'm not
Speaker 6: an actor, I'm not a celebrity. I'm not entertaining.
Speaker 1: I'm not a DJ.
Speaker 6: I am I am asked no disrespect, brother, I love
Speaker 6: you clock more stuff that I've been doing this for
Speaker 6: so long, and I really became famous so for sneakers,
Speaker 6: which is crazy because I'm not famous, you know, what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. So there's no DJ, no rapping, no nothing.
Speaker 6: I'm just this dude from the South Bronx. They've been
Speaker 6: around one hundred years and been into the sneaker game
Speaker 6: for real. So before social media, before October fourth, two
Speaker 6: thousand and nine, or twenty ten, whenever Instagram came out,
Speaker 6: I've been getting shoes, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 6: I've been getting shoes.
Speaker 2: No, no, he was selling me shoes way before.
Speaker 1: They wasn't in it. But how's that happen? Though?
Speaker 2: So for me from the so for me, it's crazy.
Speaker 6: He goes so now it goes the whole hip hop
Speaker 6: element and the whole thing. So I had club essos.
Speaker 6: But before that, one of my best friends I only have.
Speaker 6: I got three best friends. Clark is one of them.
Speaker 6: My man Speedy James Williams. He was in a Nike
Speaker 6: commercial where they was doing the dribbling with Jason Williams.
Speaker 1: And Rashid Wallace. He's from the Big that got the
Speaker 1: body Jason Well.
Speaker 6: No no, no, no, no buddies, no no, no, Jason
Speaker 6: Wing when that Sid his normal driver, not that I
Speaker 6: was quite chocolate the ja.
Speaker 1: I can relate with youtand I understand everybody. So he
Speaker 1: was in that commercial.
Speaker 6: So I got to meet the guys like Jerry Erasmasney,
Speaker 6: Jerry Rasney, so you know what I'm saying. So guys
Speaker 6: like that was taking care of me before there was
Speaker 6: an internet. So like I call him my brother. He
Speaker 6: was in Above the Rim with Tupac, so I was
Speaker 6: on a set every day. I was on a set
Speaker 6: for like eleven days in a row with Park when
Speaker 6: they were shooting Above the Rim and all that, just
Speaker 6: hanging out, bullshitt around and rebox pretty much fastered that
Speaker 6: whole campaign. But my man did this commercial with Nike
Speaker 6: to dribble and commercial, so I was able to go
Speaker 6: up in the office and then and just build relationships
Speaker 6: and stuff like that. So I was getting shoes for
Speaker 6: a while. It was just White Air Forces and Black
Speaker 6: Air Forces. It was really no special shoes like that
Speaker 6: except for the Family Tree Air Force when they want Rutger.
Speaker 6: But I mean, besides stuff like that, it was just
Speaker 6: a whole bunch of shits. I've been around that whole time,
Speaker 6: and you knew Sneakers was going to be not I didn't.
Speaker 2: I just love kicks.
Speaker 6: I was running around with clock for years when Clark
Speaker 6: was coming to Club Thatsos. I didn't really know there
Speaker 6: was a sneaker thing with Clark like that, I knew
Speaker 6: I love sneakers. I was riding around in the Toyota
Speaker 6: four Runner with somebody's in a chick's name from Windy's.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. When I had club so
Speaker 1: chick name for girls, some girls name. What I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That made what I'm saying.
Speaker 11: So you.
Speaker 1: Running running around like I had the flour running. I
Speaker 1: thought I was hot.
Speaker 6: Clark pulls up in the first Yukon theinality that I've
Speaker 6: ever seen in my life. Two doors ship with the
Speaker 6: l system for a long time. You know it's crazy.
Speaker 6: And then I wound up owning the stereo shop. Years later,
Speaker 6: I bought Stay Tuned Richard.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, he said, Mike Tyson.
Speaker 6: What Mike Tyson used to have a brim place in Fortland,
Speaker 6: New Jersey called Stay Tuned?
Speaker 1: I bought that. It was called Audio Designs.
Speaker 2: After that flor no no flu, I'm gona tell I'm
Speaker 2: gonna take it back.
Speaker 6: So when Joe used to drive down here to Miami
Speaker 6: before he lived there, remember to escalated. They was getting
Speaker 6: from Martin Cadillacs with the with the motorized TVs in
Speaker 6: the back that was always breaking.
Speaker 1: I did those, but I put the broken TV.
Speaker 6: Remember the Cadillac. That's Remember when Joe used to come
Speaker 6: down here. You know, Joe wasn't flying back in the days.
Speaker 6: Remember Joe time with Escalat what year? Well, but when
Speaker 6: I had audio designs, it might have been I got
Speaker 6: locked up in one oh two. It might have been
Speaker 6: ninety nine, two thousand, Okay, that's when the Actually it's yeah,
Speaker 6: So I was doing his wisdom, no, because I wanted
Speaker 6: to put the years together. Now, I was doing him
Speaker 6: good at my job. I was doing his systems back.
Speaker 6: I was doing his systems back in the days. So
Speaker 6: I say that to go back from ninety six to
Speaker 6: two thousand and one, like I was always like the
Speaker 6: sneaker ship was.
Speaker 1: Always forever with me.
Speaker 6: But when I used to see clock and Essos back
Speaker 6: in ninety five ninety six, I didn't even.
Speaker 1: Know Clark had the ill sneaker collection. Like that.
Speaker 6: We was just vibbing on cars and then him coming
Speaker 6: to him coming to Man Wednesdays, Maria Davids getting drunk
Speaker 6: every night, and then Jay doing the whole ship and
Speaker 6: Jay and them used to pull up to Essos two
Speaker 6: hours before, no earlier than that, like threetown, and they
Speaker 6: would pre pay for the bottles of Christian and they
Speaker 6: would give me thirty six hundred dollars cash christ That
Speaker 6: was three hundred dollars battle.
Speaker 1: Back then shout to the plug.
Speaker 2: I was paying like forty.
Speaker 6: Dollars a bottles stolen selling them for Yeah, I was
Speaker 6: getting a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Back there, perspect The funny shit is. The funny shit
Speaker 1: is when we started doing that, they wasn't even selling
Speaker 1: Crystal right. They would have to go get the Chrystal
Speaker 1: out because we were asking for crystal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nah, I was crazy.
Speaker 6: I was getting Kristal from it from the distributors, Charms, liquor,
Speaker 6: all that shit. I mean only one day, but the flash.
Speaker 6: It was the reason I fell in love with that
Speaker 6: whole rock The reason I fell in love with that
Speaker 6: whole rock movement was they never pulled their money out
Speaker 6: in the club. They would come to Essos at three
Speaker 6: four o'clock in the afternoon. We paid for their bottles
Speaker 6: of Chris and had me bring a case of Christyle
Speaker 6: out to the ball and they were just hanging by
Speaker 6: the ball poorty bottles, poor the bottles for they bottles
Speaker 6: hold hold.
Speaker 1: No cash on the table? How cal it said? You smart?
Speaker 6: So that was everybody else was starting fronting and pulling
Speaker 6: their bottles out and buying eighty dollars bottles of Moet
Speaker 6: and all that bullshit. And I'm sitting there, last stop.
Speaker 6: You ain't going nowhere?
Speaker 1: All right, clock, I'm sorry, but no cluck there seeing
Speaker 1: the begin I need to know where Clark can Okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta dj I gotta go. Okay, you don't know
Speaker 1: where Clark Kent was at when you heard the room
Speaker 1: was that jay Z and Dame Dash separated? And it
Speaker 1: will never be the same because everything that you said
Speaker 1: just now, you were speaking about the beginning, because that's
Speaker 1: what you represent. And now you're still here. We're still relevant,
Speaker 1: You're still doing what we gotta do. But god, you
Speaker 1: are human. You're a human. Yeah, so I'm actually the
Speaker 1: human being right now? How did you feel? Because I
Speaker 1: still speak to both of them on the same days,
Speaker 1: may be on the same days. To guilty.
Speaker 10: You weren't.
Speaker 1: It's crazy speaking to your saying you feel guilty. I
Speaker 1: could never feel guilty because they were. I wasn't do
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, but the funny shit was,
Speaker 1: I was sitting at my desk at Rockefeller when I
Speaker 1: found out that it just wasn't gonna be the same anymore.
Speaker 6: And I.
Speaker 1: I I thought to myself, Okay, they'll work it out. Listen, No,
Speaker 1: it was a part of you to say they'll work
Speaker 1: it out. Yeah, I thought it was bullshit. I thought
Speaker 1: it would go away. That's what you have to understand.
Speaker 1: As a guy who was there from before everything, I
Speaker 1: was just like that, that's corny ship. They'll figure it out.
Speaker 1: And because I knew, understand me. I was there from
Speaker 1: the beginning, and then I went to to Motown Records,
Speaker 1: and then I went to jobs. Yeah, I think, did
Speaker 1: you make it any helping the flower shout in Jamaica.
Speaker 1: Let's make some noise o'clock having seventeen hundred dollars.
Speaker 5: Come?
Speaker 1: Damn, you better class them all, something better class you
Speaker 1: put them from bu you better class. I'm sorry, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't take the fish at all. Listen, being before and
Speaker 1: and and you know, making the connection between them, talking mysel,
Speaker 1: making him the connection between them and seeing what introduced
Speaker 1: them right, introduced. Did we we didn't clarify the introduction?
Speaker 1: Can we go for the introduction? How did you introduce them?
Speaker 1: After I signed Dame's groups, I kept telling him about, Yo, dude,
Speaker 1: jay Z is the best in the world, and you're
Speaker 1: telling this today today, I said, Yo, you see, my man,
Speaker 1: jay Z is the best in the world. It's gonna
Speaker 1: kill niggas. What the fuck is this?
Speaker 16: Jay Z?
Speaker 1: Niggas? He ain't better than Big L? This was like, wow, Like,
Speaker 1: with all due respect, I think Big L is dope.
Speaker 1: I think, but I think he's dope. I think he's dope.
Speaker 1: But you saying that that my man's not better than
Speaker 1: him makes no sense to me because I listen, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, So I knew how wild Kine was,
Speaker 1: Like what are you talking about? Like you saying Big
Speaker 1: L is better than if you're saying Big Al's better
Speaker 1: than rock him, and then you're saying he's better than
Speaker 1: Jay Like now you're wildin' you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like he ain't better than this back then? This is
Speaker 1: back then? He said, Yeah, they didn't see it. I mean,
Speaker 1: but I didn't care. So but I was just like
Speaker 1: choosing my man's illing and everybody, and then you know,
Speaker 1: I started to prove it and then he was you know,
Speaker 1: like he was like, Yo, I'm gonna meet this guy.
Speaker 1: And when he meets him, he's like, I can't believe
Speaker 1: the dudes wearing white and white Air Force one. What
Speaker 1: the fuck you think the only wear Air Force ones
Speaker 1: in Harlemiga you caughty, like, how could you think something
Speaker 1: so stupid? But who are you talking about? Dang Dan
Speaker 1: was like, I can't believe this niggas wearing Air Force ones.
Speaker 1: I was like, what are you talking about? You met
Speaker 1: and me, I'm wearing Air Force ones and so I'm
Speaker 1: from Brooklyn. Yeah, but you be in Harlem. I don't
Speaker 1: care where i'd be at. I'm saying, like you're gonna
Speaker 1: say that, there's nobody else at all, and in Brooklyn
Speaker 1: it was Air Force ones except me. Like that would
Speaker 1: be some dumb shit to believe. But you know that's
Speaker 1: what he felt, and he felt like, understand me. I
Speaker 1: took him to Brooklyn, So he was kind of halfway
Speaker 1: scared at the same time because he believed the only thing, yes, Dave, Dad,
Speaker 1: the only thing that happened in Brooklyn was Robert fevery
Speaker 1: he just felt like, motherfucker's just wrong. I thought that too,
Speaker 1: like all the time that I wanted to obvious more
Speaker 1: of my cousins. I was like, I liked it. I like,
Speaker 1: I like I went to Farragut was about it too. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry because I don't want to worry about.
Speaker 10: Me, you know.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is I introduced them and everything
Speaker 1: was all good from day one. So when this happened,
Speaker 1: when it was like, yeah, you know, it's getting a
Speaker 1: little shaky, I was just like, they're going to fix that,
Speaker 1: and that it was eighteen years later. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: enough years later. It was enough because it was I
Speaker 1: think I had almost done ten albums or twelve albums.
Speaker 1: It was a lot. I mean, and you have to remember,
Speaker 1: Jay ran a bunch of summers. He ran a bunch
Speaker 1: of summers. I don't many rappers they get that many summers.
Speaker 1: He had summers. He brag about it too. What's crazy
Speaker 1: is I don't know anybody shut down. I mean, back then,
Speaker 1: if you had a summer in New York, you had
Speaker 1: a summer around the world. I mean, hit records in
Speaker 1: the summer, hit records in the summer. So that's what.
Speaker 1: That's what, that's what we're talking about. But you know,
Speaker 1: the only summers he didn't run was the summers that
Speaker 1: he didn't put records out. So what are we talking
Speaker 1: about here? Think about it. The only summers Jay didn't
Speaker 1: run is the summers that Jay decided he wasn't rapping.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. So what you think that's some ship for
Speaker 1: niggas to think about for a second. The only summers
Speaker 1: that Jay didn't run was the summers that he didn't
Speaker 1: put a fucking record out. Bottom line, when he was fifteen.
Speaker 1: I told you, niggas, I feel like we got to
Speaker 1: make some lunk. You need make no, no, we need
Speaker 1: another shot for that one. We don't need a last.
Speaker 2: Last year five.
Speaker 1: I told you I'm a ard nigga. Come on, I
Speaker 1: cannot leave on it. Even you can pull my ship,
Speaker 1: absolutely beful. I'm not even looking. You tell me, you
Speaker 1: tell me where to pull away? Man, I am not
Speaker 1: even looking. Goddamn, I gotta fill mine up for that.
Speaker 1: Ain't gonna be nor where are you dja hair tonight?
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody gonna hear that ship. Somebody snap it, snap
Speaker 1: it or something, yo. Man, Damn you was mad dispectful.
Speaker 1: I thought you, my brother, I thought you was getting
Speaker 1: the look. I got it with you. You do go,
Speaker 1: I got it with you.
Speaker 16: Here we go.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to the club tonight.
Speaker 1: I got it with you. I'm all going in. O.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not brother. You want something, you change your
Speaker 2: don't discuss how much this is. This is this all right,
Speaker 2: you gotta we're gonna go.
Speaker 1: Know we got it right, I got you go. Let's go,
Speaker 1: Let's go. We're gonna be a jink chance.
Speaker 11: You full for this podcast that I was.
Speaker 1: I was gonna text the Norman water, everybody water, everybody
Speaker 1: went his wife Fiji. I'm the only one who's still straight.
Speaker 1: Is big up to survive, to survive for no.
Speaker 6: No shout the puff because afy Aftercloll d DS and
Speaker 6: that we're going to puff out to after party.
Speaker 1: At the party.
Speaker 6: We're going now absolutely now not listen, I changed my
Speaker 6: flight for this. We're going to absolutely not me neither.
Speaker 6: This right here is we're going not going to the
Speaker 6: puff party.
Speaker 1: Not you's video here just line.
Speaker 2: Let me tell the movie, y'all.
Speaker 1: Lie, nobody's seen the over Sparty. You've never seen the
Speaker 1: movie The overs Party. They're not doing that. They're like,
Speaker 1: we're going ship, so we are not going to So
Speaker 1: it's just how we're doing it. So are you DJing tonight?
Speaker 1: That's Sam, you're dj I'm DJing a party that we
Speaker 1: do once a month called the Originals. It's me Tony
Speaker 1: to Richmondina, stretch On, Stung and d nice. So it's
Speaker 1: probably the wildest. It's probably the best party that we
Speaker 1: that I get to do. Your nigga still be smashing
Speaker 1: at the party. I got a wife. I'm doing nothing incriminating. Brother,
Speaker 1: I'm very I'm not married. I'm happily smashing clocks left over.
Speaker 1: I said I'm not married, So you smashed small.
Speaker 2: I'm just happy to be I'm just happy to be here.
Speaker 1: You have a beard. I'm just happy to be here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you asked man.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's right next door.
Speaker 1: You can't miss it. Yeah, I know about your man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, me too. Where's that to ask either?
Speaker 1: Because you have a person listen, listen, look at us,
Speaker 1: listen episode on the plane clock your No, I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You know that's not that's any that's not
Speaker 1: anything that really speak for yourself. I'm Puerto Rican Panamanian
Speaker 1: is like Puerto Ricans like foul cousin like Clock is
Speaker 1: my foul brother. Brother. You know, I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 1: because you know why Panamani because Panamanian is like you
Speaker 1: keep me on purpose. I'm sorry, brother, let me tell
Speaker 1: you what Panamani is because it's like ya Spanish cousin
Speaker 1: slash Jamaican cousins, because like they kind of like both,
Speaker 1: I'm a buggy, you're not like because they're like y'all
Speaker 1: like Jamaican Spanish bogus. What can you explain why? Because
Speaker 1: y'all eat ROTI.
Speaker 8: Like that.
Speaker 1: That's not the reason why. No, that's not the reason.
Speaker 1: The reason why is because historically when the Panama Canal
Speaker 1: was being built. Are we getting deep? Let's break down
Speaker 1: on these dollars. Go, Jamaicans came over from to Panama
Speaker 1: to help build a canal yard mandyd mind them. My
Speaker 1: father's Jamaican. Okay, we got to talk to these people
Speaker 1: with Clark Kurt Keen jobs, not thirteen Kurt teen jobs,
Speaker 1: thirteen blood. Listen, you gotta have relax. Don't you have
Speaker 1: a grab a bottle over here? Again? This is Panamanian nigam.
Speaker 1: Shake your feet, shake your feet, you don't know where
Speaker 1: Clark came from, Flatbush, Panama speaking to you. Gotta got
Speaker 1: twenty years, Yeah twenty my friend. You know out here
Speaker 1: in Miami they have flea markets. See, Coliseum was like
Speaker 1: official flea market.
Speaker 6: Coliseum was official, was official.
Speaker 1: But yeah unofficial here you know the flea he go to,
Speaker 1: it's very unofficial. He goes to the hotel Carol. I
Speaker 1: gotta throw that out there, Mark ca Man, the fleet
Speaker 1: market we all lived on. You gotta rely.
Speaker 2: I sold all my mixta.
Speaker 1: I know you racist Miami, like I mean, but sunny
Speaker 1: what I mean bys, But Sonny slaps the flea market.
Speaker 1: The old thing is Jordan's right now is official? Now,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you didn't even get it from foot locker.
Speaker 1: You got it from your lock off a lot.
Speaker 2: It was your locker.
Speaker 1: You gotta relax, Sonny o'clock. We answered you your favorite
Speaker 1: ever in the hip hop now what we And you
Speaker 1: also said Rick Ross's album was great. Yes, you said
Speaker 1: that this is best to me so far. I agree
Speaker 1: with you as well. But now I also said Drake's album.
Speaker 1: Did you know what you drake about Grace? But think
Speaker 1: about this, Okay, every Rick Ross album you listen to
Speaker 1: you can pick something off of it and go maybe
Speaker 1: not that one. What do you mean I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: that's the reason why I could say this is his
Speaker 1: best work, because you can't take anything off of it.
Speaker 1: You gotta go. Now on that ship's fire too. Now,
Speaker 1: all that ship's fire too. Now while that ship's fire too,
Speaker 1: and he's talking on that ship? Is he the South
Speaker 1: Rick Ross? I mean South Biggie. No, he's just He's
Speaker 1: Rick Ross. He don't don't compare the mind. He can't
Speaker 1: be compared to anything. He's almost anybody. Anybody who compared
Speaker 1: him to Biggie was doing him a disservice, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because.
Speaker 2: There there's no one's gonna be like that. We see
Speaker 2: him saying, they were.
Speaker 1: Doing Ross service by trying to compare him to that.
Speaker 1: Let Rick Ross be Rick Ross facts, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And as Rick Ross, he's fucking bananas. Like
Speaker 1: his album is fire. It's not good, it's fire. I
Speaker 1: actually feel bad that, you know, the album came out
Speaker 1: a day before Drake's album, because it's like it didn't
Speaker 1: have the time to raise Albums are playlist? How do
Speaker 1: you feel the album. It's an album, So I don't
Speaker 1: care what you said. If the ship have a cover
Speaker 1: and it has credits and it has track lists, it's
Speaker 1: a fucking album. Makes a noise for that guy and
Speaker 1: the single.
Speaker 2: Get the hell out on joking.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna be honest, you'll you'll bring us
Speaker 1: to the top of the podcast world. If I was
Speaker 1: one hit one, just one hit one, one hit did
Speaker 1: Elliott Wilson before with all that you no money knew
Speaker 1: me list to be honest, that's what three sixty before
Speaker 1: you curve never curved call. But he's the o G.
Speaker 1: You got them, just like you know, everybody has stories
Speaker 1: in their head. Everybody has the No. One hit clak
Speaker 1: one one for Panama.
Speaker 2: Was that boom boom.
Speaker 11: You know what?
Speaker 1: You know what, No, no, no, no, listen, here's some
Speaker 1: crazy ship. People look at that record and back then
Speaker 1: it was a Panamanian dude doing a reggae record. Guess
Speaker 1: what that reggae is? The first that is it don't
Speaker 1: don't reggae, don't got damn.
Speaker 10: One, good.
Speaker 1: God, damn, this is Panama.
Speaker 4: Boom Mommy, mommy, mommy, boom boom boom, boom boom.
Speaker 1: That relaxed to say it again. He said toom boom
Speaker 1: betoom boom Man wrong anyway? Man? Keep going?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: Where a record? Where are we at? This? Make some yeah?
Speaker 1: So claw Jesus CHRISTI nuts claw you think jeez, I
Speaker 1: got a clock.
Speaker 20: I gotta play nowhere? You've been in this this this Yeah,
Speaker 20: animal bruised roll.
Speaker 1: So now I heard you the tweet going on where
Speaker 1: Rick Ross? You tweeted that Rick Ross album is fire fire.
Speaker 1: I saw that that tweet went viral. It did in
Speaker 1: my mind it did. But now but now Clark, what
Speaker 1: else is Clark can't like there's no school right Contrary
Speaker 1: to what a lot of people might think. Migos, I
Speaker 1: fuck with Migos, so I fuck with young thug.
Speaker 2: You know what, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 8: The thing is.
Speaker 1: When you sit behind it. When you said I love
Speaker 1: that that any When you sit behind a desk, you know,
Speaker 1: he DJ parties that he got to relax. Okay, okay, listen.
Speaker 1: When you sit behind the desk, you start to look
Speaker 1: at music differently. You don't look at music just for
Speaker 1: what you personally think. You look for is it going
Speaker 1: to work whether you like it or not. It's whether
Speaker 1: it's gonna work or not. The first time I heard
Speaker 1: Young Thug, I thought he might have something. But then
Speaker 1: it was repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly that dude, you might not
Speaker 1: understand everything he's saying, but when he says it, somehow
Speaker 1: you can get to it. Young migos.
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 1: Every time, I don't even know to take Molly, listen, listen.
Speaker 1: I don't understand that there. I just want to be listen.
Speaker 1: I just want to be clear. I'm not sitting here
Speaker 1: saying these dudes are spending bars. What I'm saying is
Speaker 1: these dudes, these dudes are making records that I can
Speaker 1: actually like. And you know, trust me, there's a list
Speaker 1: of motherfuckers that I'm just like, what the fuck is
Speaker 1: going on?
Speaker 2: But there's some dudes that get that get put in
Speaker 2: that that that.
Speaker 1: Vein with all these other dudes that I'm looking at, like,
Speaker 1: why the fuck are you making records? And when I
Speaker 1: look at them, I'm going, well, how can you put
Speaker 1: this guy in here when his records are better? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Let's just look at his records.
Speaker 1: If he can rap, let's just look at his records.
Speaker 1: To me, you, here's where a lot of motherfuckers get
Speaker 1: shit fucked up. They look at this rap thing like
Speaker 1: it's about having bars as much as it is about
Speaker 1: making records. When you're a rapper, your ship is to
Speaker 1: make records when you're serious about you having bars. How
Speaker 1: about melodies, though, clock your melodies helps melodies? Asked me
Speaker 1: a question, was carrying it? Good melodies make better records.
Speaker 1: And the reason why is it's so simple. But nobody
Speaker 1: looks at this ship. When you learned the first song
Speaker 1: that you ever learned was your ab seeds. The only
Speaker 1: way you learned the abcs was by singing it. It's
Speaker 1: a melody and rhythm. So that's the reason why somebody
Speaker 1: with a good melody makes something and you catch it.
Speaker 1: That's what makes something catchy is the fact that you
Speaker 1: the fact that you heard a good melody makes it catchy.
Speaker 1: So when you hear he's talking about but whatever the
Speaker 1: thing is, most people might not hear what he says.
Speaker 1: A different cousin right here. Ain't we respect this podcast
Speaker 1: with respect? Alloy? Let that go? Let that go?
Speaker 2: Please?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm gone your your ship, claw, this
Speaker 1: is your life. Yes it's not. This is not right, Radar.
Speaker 1: I apologize for your doing that first because it fucked
Speaker 1: you wasn't supposed to. I've been trying to get you
Speaker 1: to do this for a while in Florida. Wow, we
Speaker 1: hear all the time. We got a budget, definitely here,
Speaker 1: you should have this a budget now.
Speaker 2: If you would have said it will flow you the.
Speaker 1: Guy in my mind, I got a budget. We don't
Speaker 1: got it right, man? No, your budget? Yeah, yeah, because
Speaker 1: I flew myself out, so yeah, yeah, having thirty six
Speaker 1: hundred kicks, how does how do you maintain thirty six
Speaker 1: hundred sneakers?
Speaker 6: That's that's the Never had that question ask me before,
Speaker 6: because I wear whatever's on the floor.
Speaker 1: But I see you, I see on the internet. You
Speaker 1: got white clear box. I got the neatest.
Speaker 2: That's my title.
Speaker 6: You talk to Joe, you talk to wild A, you
Speaker 6: talk the Greg Screen, you talk the fat Joe Clark.
Speaker 1: I got the neatest.
Speaker 21: I got the neatest sneaker room in the world. But
Speaker 21: but why is it white Claire boxes? I have an
Speaker 21: abundance of sneakers. I wear my sneakers. I want to
Speaker 21: see what I want to grab. You know what I'm saying. Pause,
Speaker 21: I want to if I'm looking for pasts. I want
Speaker 21: to be able to find it, so in them boxes,
Speaker 21: I wasn't gonna be able to find all that. And
Speaker 21: I really I don't sell sneakers. I don't resell sneakers.
Speaker 21: If I wanted to resell my sneakers, I got a
Speaker 21: million dollar sitting right there in my room. You have,
Speaker 21: I got a million dollars sit in my room. No bullshit,
Speaker 21: I got a million dollars sitting in my room. Rack,
Speaker 21: I got a million dollars and sneakers sitting in my room.
Speaker 6: So like I wanted to see if I want to
Speaker 6: grab a pair of sneakers from two thousand and three,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go look for that pair of sneakers now, because.
Speaker 1: I've seen your ship, like you had rolls. My ship
Speaker 1: looked like a looking and nine hundred square feet and
Speaker 1: the crazy ship.
Speaker 6: I know you.
Speaker 1: I know you from seeing on the street. So when
Speaker 1: I seen it on the end ofne I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: I never knew yo, you had every sneak however you had.
Speaker 1: I got undefeated for you. What's the ship, Michael J.
Speaker 1: Fox ship?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I got the Marty m clowns. I got to.
Speaker 1: It's not sneaker was not sneakers movie props. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is this is when me and Clark argue and
Speaker 1: we go at it from baga. I would love to
Speaker 1: see that.
Speaker 6: It's a real argument sometimes like this. I believe there's
Speaker 6: a sneaker coacher, Claud doesn't.
Speaker 16: I believe there's okay okay, and we're gonna let Clark go.
Speaker 1: Only Clark invest because I said, I want to investigate
Speaker 1: this before we dive into it. You said you believe
Speaker 1: there's a sneak of culture and Clark said he does not.
Speaker 6: Leave because Clark is gonna bring I can't answer for Clark,
Speaker 6: but I know where Clock is going with it because
Speaker 6: we had this argument you a million times.
Speaker 1: Just stink of culture. You are gods, and we really
Speaker 1: argue our posters, We really argue about this. I'm part
Speaker 1: of sneaker culture. I'm like a pond. I'm very lower
Speaker 1: in the steaker culture. I go to the Means.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 6: Your Jordan's segment was brought up everywhere in the world.
Speaker 6: I'm a listening to the podcast, so I don't want
Speaker 6: to hear that you off.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I did ship on Jordan, but I also
Speaker 1: heard this. I kept raising I kept wearing him, so
Speaker 1: that lets you know I hate that. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I respect he is gonna say some ship and then boycott.
Speaker 1: I still want you.
Speaker 6: You know, you don't believe that we can argue about
Speaker 6: it because you're my brother and I love you, so
Speaker 6: don't believe.
Speaker 1: I can't believe what he's saying. Right now, I'm just
Speaker 1: throwing it out there. You saying it's not a sneak
Speaker 1: of culture, nor yes, how many five percenters?
Speaker 10: You know?
Speaker 1: You gotta relax. I know at least he's have one
Speaker 1: hundred people. You know what's crazy? I can say it's
Speaker 1: without even looking at him. When he was growing up,
Speaker 1: at one point he was about to be five percent.
Speaker 1: I was given to ask you people, father a law
Speaker 1: when I was younger. Right, skip back when you look
Speaker 1: at that, and then you go, what's it really based off?
Speaker 1: It's based off of Islam? What is Islam? A culture? Right? Yep?
Speaker 1: How can you parallel sneakers, which is sneakers some shit
Speaker 1: that you wear on your feet to a culture a
Speaker 1: way of life. Culture is a way of life. It
Speaker 1: has laws, it has a belief system, it has a
Speaker 1: financial system, and it has a spiritual system. Please the
Speaker 1: word culture is a powerful word. Parallel that to Islam
Speaker 1: sneakers in Islam. Okay, we're done here, so equate that
Speaker 1: to you said hip hop culture, then be a way
Speaker 1: of life.
Speaker 2: You know you said culture.
Speaker 1: Hip hop is a way of life.
Speaker 2: It's a coach, Jimmy.
Speaker 1: The same as finance. Everything Their money is finance. But
Speaker 1: everything you said, everything you said, understand me money because I.
Speaker 2: Believe there is a culture in the state.
Speaker 1: Okay, they show it to me. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: have the same definitions of you. I'm not saying, but
Speaker 1: there is.
Speaker 6: But there's a way of life. But their subdivisions, the medical.
Speaker 1: Hold on. Listen to what I'm saying. He holds understand
Speaker 1: I hosted, But listen to what I'm saying to you.
Speaker 1: If you say culture, you would be wrong. If you
Speaker 1: said subculture, we'd have a conversation.
Speaker 6: Is going to bring it back just the religion puts
Speaker 6: up seventeen When one DC puts up his and tells
Speaker 6: everybody to put up their shelters and there's seventeen thousand
Speaker 6: people are putting their shell toes, he's gonna he's gonna
Speaker 6: attribute that to hip hop culture.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to attribute that to hip hop culture.
Speaker 1: What I'm going to say is, can you tell me
Speaker 1: when run DMC made that record which Nigga wasn't wearing
Speaker 1: to d this? Think about this? Why can you say
Speaker 1: put everybody put your Adidas up when you when you're
Speaker 1: on the stage, if niggas wasn't wearing a deal. So
Speaker 1: you're saying so the sneaker culture is a subculture of
Speaker 1: hip hop. No, sniggers culture is a subcultured period. It's
Speaker 1: not a culture. It doesn't come first. It's a subculture
Speaker 1: byproduct that's a byproduct of close It's not even you.
Speaker 6: Know, it's a byproduct of fashions, which it about.
Speaker 1: It's a fashion, which isn't a culture. It's fashion and
Speaker 1: ship you wear.
Speaker 2: It can't be a subculture. It's exactly.
Speaker 1: So we're getting back to the same thing.
Speaker 2: I'm a great I disagree too. Okay, it's a culture.
Speaker 1: Okay, showing to the Niggers is a culture. But you
Speaker 1: have your how many can't hold no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no, don't do this? Why because y'are god?
Speaker 1: That's it?
Speaker 6: Hold on, now, know how many sneaker shows we do
Speaker 6: when he's fifteen and sixteen year old. Seventy year old
Speaker 6: kids don't know you from nothing from music, but they
Speaker 6: praise the ground you walk on because of sneakers.
Speaker 1: Answer yourself. You can answer that yourself. Why do they
Speaker 1: I'm asking you, you can't, dude, I created sneakers. I
Speaker 1: designed sneakers. I'm a guy.
Speaker 6: Who is looking at and that's a culture to them
Speaker 6: because they don't know that you discovered Jay. They don't
Speaker 6: know that you were saying jazz o was the best
Speaker 6: in the world. They don't know that you signed Doze effects.
Speaker 6: They don't know that because you look at making them
Speaker 6: to do effects.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He's trying, But.
Speaker 15: I'm right, But your definition of culture, like if I
Speaker 15: was going psyclopedia culture, what the way you define it
Speaker 15: is that it is the definition of culture, because that's.
Speaker 1: The only way we can define him what we're talking about. Okay,
Speaker 1: So then I guess we open a dictionary, put.
Speaker 6: The generations to cultures. Don't know who you are from music,
Speaker 6: they know who you are. No dictionaries d we make.
Speaker 1: We make all dictionary. He's the I mean, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep this funky. Im what I understand.
Speaker 2: I'm taking I wanted to do that a long time.
Speaker 1: I understand what I understand to be culture from being
Speaker 1: one who has who's a spiritual person, So I learned
Speaker 1: it from a spiritual place. So if I learned it
Speaker 1: from a spiritual place, I can only look at what
Speaker 1: I understand to be culture in a spiritual place. So
Speaker 1: with that alone, huh, he said, you're right, culture.
Speaker 6: Pulled up the definition of culture. I hate all of y'all.
Speaker 1: I gotta relate right right, Read it again, Read it again.
Speaker 6: Culture the arts and other manifestations of human intellectual achievement
Speaker 6: regarded collectively. So these kids that don't know that you collect,
Speaker 6: these kids collected don't know that you hold, don't know
Speaker 6: you from sneakers. That is a culture to.
Speaker 1: Your I am not looking at what you said and
Speaker 1: reading it properly. Read it.
Speaker 2: Read it again.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not even drunk. I am drunk.
Speaker 6: The arts of other manifestations of human intellectual achievement regarding
Speaker 6: collective pull.
Speaker 1: On human intellectual achievement. Where when that goes back to English,
Speaker 1: stop read what you read and explained it, because you're
Speaker 1: not explaining it. It's so simple. They read it to you.
Speaker 2: Look how my brother just called me a dumb How
Speaker 2: many people?
Speaker 1: How many people? You're going what I did?
Speaker 2: To understand what you just read? You have to you
Speaker 2: have to read it yourselves.
Speaker 1: The arts and.
Speaker 6: The arts and other manifestations of human intellectual stop right
Speaker 6: there and stopping the arts and what and other manifestations
Speaker 6: of human intellectual achievement regarded collective hold on collectively.
Speaker 8: Human intellectual achievements and just for the joint. Wait wait
Speaker 8: wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait, let's
Speaker 8: take let's take a hold up.
Speaker 1: Let's take a few steps back. What are sneakers? Shoes? Right?
Speaker 1: Shoes are something you wear right to protect your feet
Speaker 1: from the elements?
Speaker 17: Right?
Speaker 1: Okay, cool? Where is the what was it again? Okay?
Speaker 2: Cool, I'm done here.
Speaker 1: You read it yourself, you can't just got very professional
Speaker 1: just shoes?
Speaker 16: Did you hold up? Your reason for love of shoes?
Speaker 16: And your reason for doing this is because they protect
Speaker 16: your feet? Because we're talking about.
Speaker 1: The bottom.
Speaker 2: He just let me justinition that I just read. You
Speaker 2: would be wrong even no.
Speaker 1: I would be all right this intelection, I would be right.
Speaker 2: You'll just prove theetionhips. But when you go intellect, you
Speaker 2: gotta go intellect on different levels.
Speaker 1: Seventeen year olds. I'm not gonna have my forty four
Speaker 1: year old. No no, no, no, no no, eat it again.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be wrong again. Oh my god, Jesus Christ
Speaker 1: fucking read this ship. Why are we doing this on
Speaker 1: the podcast? That's what we're gonna do. By that, I'm
Speaker 1: not losing. I don't holdo holda wait, wait, wait for
Speaker 1: the site becomes wait wait wait a personal thinking. I
Speaker 1: mean I just want to read No no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no what I just walked back with him off of
Speaker 1: what you read?
Speaker 2: Did he lose this?
Speaker 1: Off the human intellectional bo? See how sinking is you?
Speaker 2: Very fucking much?
Speaker 1: But what does that mean? Just define that?
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying you'll disagree with me.
Speaker 1: Hello, I'm not saying this. As I listen, everything that
Speaker 1: you're gonna get that human and that's intellectual, is going
Speaker 1: to make you smarter, right, So the shoe's not gonna
Speaker 1: make smart. It's fucking shoes, yo, that's what it's shoes.
Speaker 1: So whack I love you?
Speaker 2: Then, yeah, I can't argue.
Speaker 1: I love you.
Speaker 2: Understand me?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yea swear to God like this is real nigga ship.
Speaker 7: So we're gonna have.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have such an Instagram and Twitter war between.
Speaker 7: This and with and with all due respects, listen, talk
Speaker 7: to our people. There are people hate has That's why
Speaker 7: you want ashtag hate. That's why you wanted to come
Speaker 7: so bad.
Speaker 1: Pause and pause, Paul, pause, that's why you wanted to
Speaker 1: be here so bad.
Speaker 2: No, no, because I get tired of you saying this
Speaker 2: is not a culture.
Speaker 1: And it's a question. You get tired of what I'm
Speaker 1: saying because we all be about this. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't even get that. But but back to what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is there are people who are more enthusiastically
Speaker 1: into shoes than usual black and I'm one of those
Speaker 1: guys who's enthusiastic, more enthusiastic than usual. I don't believe
Speaker 1: that I'm I'm superhero because I like shoes more than
Speaker 1: the next guy. You know why, Because I don't know
Speaker 1: a person who doesn't have a pair of sneakers.
Speaker 2: So what do you tell that young kid?
Speaker 6: No, no, no, what do you tell that young kid
Speaker 6: that doesn't know What do you tell that young kid
Speaker 6: who doesn't know who you are based on music?
Speaker 2: Who loves you for sneakers? And goes to your sneaker convention.
Speaker 1: Am I supposed to tell him you're their hero, you're
Speaker 1: their idol.
Speaker 6: And I don't tell them anything wrong I tell them,
Speaker 6: but to them, you're the culture of sneakers. To them,
Speaker 6: you're the culture. We just experienced that in Nike town.
Speaker 6: Just now, my nigga. I've walked out and they was
Speaker 6: taking pictures. But then they still didn't talk to you.
Speaker 6: Dude started talking to you about sneakers and then started
Speaker 6: rapping to you.
Speaker 1: You are his life. Wait, wait on, im a wrong,
Speaker 1: you're his life? A guy who's guy who started rapping
Speaker 1: to me didn't talk to me about sneakers at all.
Speaker 1: You know what he was like, He was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: that's a niggluck. Can't nigga might put me on if
Speaker 1: he thinks.
Speaker 2: I'm nice, So I just cannot rap for you.
Speaker 1: He didn't speak to me about sneakers at all.
Speaker 2: He about sneakers.
Speaker 1: Well that's you, dog, you know why, because you're a
Speaker 1: sneaker fucking superhero.
Speaker 11: But we're together because we're friends.
Speaker 1: We're not together because of sneak. Absolutely don't even talk.
Speaker 1: We don't even talk.
Speaker 2: About we don't talk about some angry sneakers.
Speaker 1: So my question, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: This is my brother for twenty five years. We really
Speaker 2: understand love.
Speaker 1: About right now, we really talking about right now. I
Speaker 1: don't even understand what I was talking about sneaking.
Speaker 2: I love because we're here for you.
Speaker 1: On a text. I know you did.
Speaker 2: I show your fire me and you know, let's go.
Speaker 1: No, that's a choice tattoo.
Speaker 11: Right.
Speaker 1: Wait, you know what you just said. Say it again?
Speaker 1: People people say no, no, no, no. People think it's
Speaker 1: a coach. Say that that's the truth. What way, kid,
Speaker 1: you don't think sneaker. I think there are some people
Speaker 1: who are more enthusiastic about sneakers than others. I'm one
Speaker 1: of those guys. Hockey. That's not a hobby, No way, no, listen.
Speaker 1: I just want to get myself out of the clitic
Speaker 1: my ship is and I've proven it. I just want
Speaker 1: to be fresh. That's it. My sneakers get dirty, I
Speaker 1: damned and hate them. We agree. I don't clean sneakers.
Speaker 1: I don't play that ship. I got enough sneaker. I'm
Speaker 1: not cleaning my sneakers because I have so many sneakers
Speaker 1: I want to wear them. So what do I do
Speaker 1: I wear them get his ships away? Why? Because I
Speaker 1: got enough sniggers that I could wear a brand new pant.
Speaker 1: Why do I have so much? Because when I was
Speaker 1: a kid, I wanted to be as fresh as the
Speaker 1: older guy. Listen. So when I got some money, when
Speaker 1: I got some money, how about as many pair of
Speaker 1: sneak as I possibly could? Why? Because I wanted to
Speaker 1: be fresh, That's it. Because I heard about the story.
Speaker 1: You had an exclusive pair of something some something something,
Speaker 1: and muster Rhyme saw you. Yeah, said yo, those sow
Speaker 1: you took your sneakers off. He told you that, and
Speaker 1: you gave him the bust. I told you, I never heard.
Speaker 1: I did. We were we were on the tour. We
Speaker 1: were on Puff's tour, and we went to Portland. No way,
Speaker 1: I told him. We went to Portland, and I knew
Speaker 1: the people at Nike, So I went to night Ga,
Speaker 1: I visited Nike. Will was in Portland. Listen, towns along.
Speaker 1: He says, he knows the Nike people. But God to
Speaker 1: do with anything right now. We want to make noise
Speaker 1: for you being a big nigga for a long time.
Speaker 1: God damnit, Daddy, big homie and a sneaker game. God,
Speaker 1: damn for a long time. Continue, I'm sorry you gave
Speaker 1: your shoes, gad. So what happened called I went to Nike,
Speaker 1: I hung out with my boy. My boy gave me
Speaker 1: some shoes. I asked him for shoes for everybody. I
Speaker 1: brought shoes back. I gave shoes to whomever. I was
Speaker 1: wearing a pair of yellow Air Force ones and Bus.
Speaker 1: You know, Bus was very colorful like that for six
Speaker 1: moment all this ship was super colorable. He shoes and
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, where the fuck did you get those?
Speaker 1: And I was like, you want them? You got him?
Speaker 1: So I just took him off and gave him to
Speaker 1: him because we couldn't wear ninets and we was on
Speaker 1: stage at that point anyway, because we were wearing all
Speaker 1: black side with black temps. So I was just like,
Speaker 1: you can take I get took him off and give
Speaker 1: him to him. Where did you hear that? I gotta
Speaker 1: get it. I want to know where you heard it from,
Speaker 1: because I never heard the story. I got him relat.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to issue with that story.
Speaker 2: Boy for me being back a little bit back in,
Speaker 2: we gotta stop.
Speaker 1: We gotta stop because because people were thinking I'm really serious,
Speaker 1: it said, Joe for a that for yo e fn
Speaker 1: our one year anniversary brother, we did some crazy ship.
Speaker 1: We started off our first episode with Kenny Anderson and
Speaker 1: Fat Jobs.
Speaker 2: It was the first one that he between that but
Speaker 2: first one.
Speaker 1: Saying I can say Jos because I love I know Chipper.
Speaker 1: Do you last? Did you call him chairs? Believe it?
Speaker 1: Call him chipper? You call him. I don't call him chips.
Speaker 1: You call Himchipp. I called him Chipper. Yeah, I called
Speaker 1: him chill. But left Breck City Queens for us to
Speaker 1: have do I know the way? How do I know that?
Speaker 1: Because you because I used to around but let your
Speaker 1: real left.
Speaker 6: Right now, he's funny because he used to DJ and
Speaker 6: Clark Park in the Bronx.
Speaker 1: Hold hol on, you got put off, he said, because
Speaker 1: I'm a real left Breck. That's what I I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get your Bronx claim too. I used to be all over.
Speaker 1: Let's get it. Come on, now, let's go where we at?
Speaker 1: So now, oh boy, before we get upbout it. Oh
Speaker 1: so this is the last one. No, he's just he's
Speaker 1: a little You also worked with Foxy Brown Little Kim Right, wait,
Speaker 1: who's your cousin? Fox Foxy anger and he knows that.
Speaker 1: Don't let him act like you don't know that. So
Speaker 1: you also work with both. I never made a record
Speaker 1: on my cousin. Is that crazy? But how powerful would
Speaker 1: it be if Foxy and Little Kim, like at this
Speaker 1: very moment, right now, if Foxy and Little Kim got
Speaker 1: together at this moment this, it'll probably be really really cool.
Speaker 1: About five years ago, it'd have been nuts. And it's
Speaker 1: funny because when we say nuts, you're saying like bad,
Speaker 1: like okay, because you know, four, like five six years ago,
Speaker 1: who was the girl? It was almost like we were
Speaker 1: looking for the girl, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: imagine to imagine if out of nowhere you got Fox
Speaker 1: and Thumb and Louise. And the funny part is like,
Speaker 1: it's a bunch of people who got spoken to about that,
Speaker 1: but I actually had the ability to do it. And
Speaker 1: and because before remember back then they actually had a
Speaker 1: sauce cover, right Kim, right okay, And the idea was
Speaker 1: would have been them on the Wiz. We can't make
Speaker 1: that happen. Let's make dream that make your lord listen.
Speaker 1: I see them both recently. No, I'm lying, I seen
Speaker 1: Kim recently, I spoke to Fox on the phone, but
Speaker 1: I think that I think they should do that for
Speaker 1: hip hop, fuck anything else. I would be legend like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, legend like y'all beef your
Speaker 1: whole career. I want your kid together. And C can't
Speaker 1: produce the ship, there you go, and I would produce
Speaker 1: it and let clock And you know what I would
Speaker 1: rather do. I'd rather be the executive producer or an
Speaker 1: R on it so I can make the records. I
Speaker 1: would rather find the music. Now you're going to describe
Speaker 1: for our listeners what's the difference from producing and then
Speaker 1: be an executive producer. A good executive producer, A good
Speaker 1: executive producer executive produces the records and make sure that
Speaker 1: the records get made. Oh thank you, we gotta relax,
Speaker 1: come up, gets look good about to take it from me.
Speaker 1: A good executive producer is the guy who's one of
Speaker 1: the guys who's making the records. But a great an
Speaker 1: R is the guy who makes sure the records get done.
Speaker 1: That's the guy who finds the who helps finds the
Speaker 1: music and helps find the great records, helps helps make
Speaker 1: or make sure that the hook is a great song,
Speaker 1: you know, a great hook. So when you're listening to it,
Speaker 1: when someone an artist comes back and he sits in
Speaker 1: front of you and he plays your album. If the
Speaker 1: album comes out and it's not good, a lot of
Speaker 1: people want to blame it on the artists, a lot
Speaker 1: of people want to blame it on producers. But who
Speaker 1: they really should blame it on is the guy who's
Speaker 1: doing artists and repertoire, because it's your job to make
Speaker 1: sure the album is and and R should be blamed
Speaker 1: for it. But it's a and R still even relevant
Speaker 1: nowadays because that's a really good question. But let's think
Speaker 1: for a second. If for albums whack, then an R
Speaker 1: is very relevant. Great, good answer, great fucking If albums don't,
Speaker 1: I got hit with that question, I gotta I gotta
Speaker 1: ask you relax because you hit me fucked up? Good
Speaker 1: an R is gonna make a good record. I eat
Speaker 1: that serious you know by by dots effects, what's the
Speaker 1: what's the.
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 1: Is good? He's very good. He's a very good an
Speaker 1: great Lenny asked, Lenny's Yeah, I mean, but.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 1: You name more R meant more good an RS. Jeff Sledge,
Speaker 1: she's a good an r was crazy that who's that?
Speaker 1: I gotta I got a uh invest k oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Keith Murray, Oh like he was. He was a job
Speaker 1: at the time, was one of the very best. And ours,
Speaker 1: Faith Newman. Oh no, Columbia, let's just stop, right, Dave. Not. Actually,
Speaker 1: she's the first person who signed Yes how about it
Speaker 1: was the first people she signed lives. She chilled two
Speaker 1: three years and actually fucked that whole story up. She
Speaker 1: signed capone Pause, she signed capone and I came home
Speaker 1: about six months after that. You got that we don't
Speaker 1: have no more, no more. Finish your story buckle and yeah,
Speaker 1: faith finishing start Faith. I gotta this is Miami should
Speaker 1: be rich somewhere living her life. God damn it, big up,
Speaker 1: Faith Newman, God damn because you know why, didn't matter
Speaker 1: that she put on me a copone, she put on
Speaker 1: she put on nas set it up for us mob
Speaker 1: deep uh screwball, lost boys everybody to come after that
Speaker 1: and eat And that's what the fuck we did. And
Speaker 1: Slive is still on that same meal. I just you know,
Speaker 1: I have I had. It was like a Thanksgiving mail
Speaker 1: for me, So I had, I had Turkey analogy had
Speaker 1: sweet potatoes over there.
Speaker 2: But I wasn't leaving.
Speaker 1: Let me guess what I was on wheels in the
Speaker 1: in our department. We did Audio two. We didn't like
Speaker 1: yo yo. We did Michelle A. We did the facts.
Speaker 1: We didn't vote. Uh take a little shot for that.
Speaker 6: We need another shot for that one set uproah, we're
Speaker 6: gonna take.
Speaker 2: A light shot.
Speaker 1: Almost give me. That's not like like, give me a
Speaker 1: light shot. I'm your brother now, Bob. That's it. That's it.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you and there's no disrespect, right. And
Speaker 1: you talked about the dose effects came with the album.
Speaker 2: How much did you have to an r that album?
Speaker 1: Well, you have to after after, after you get an album,
Speaker 1: you have to know when it's right to drop it.
Speaker 1: What's the best record? Did you shave records off? No? No,
Speaker 1: it's not about shaving records. Office about picking the best
Speaker 1: records that go single. So pickings. They want you DJ.
Speaker 1: When you look at DJ, it was crazy. Honestly, in
Speaker 1: my heart, I believe DJs who I'm sorry. I believe
Speaker 1: DJs can make the best an arsts. And the reason
Speaker 1: why is because good DJs can teach you about a
Speaker 1: new record. You know what I'm saying they can show
Speaker 1: you by the way, this is the record. Just listen,
Speaker 1: keep listening, keep listening, keep listening. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Because if a dude has a mixed show and he
Speaker 1: has a bunch of dudes who has a bunch of
Speaker 1: records that no one has, and he's deciding I'm going
Speaker 1: to play this artist, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: that guy has the ability to break that artist. And
Speaker 1: if he can break that artist, he's doing something right.
Speaker 1: If he can look at the landscape of music that's
Speaker 1: out and say I pick this, I pick that, I
Speaker 1: pick this, and then play it in his mix show
Speaker 1: and make people happy about the mix show. That guy
Speaker 1: knows how to pick records, so he should And I'm
Speaker 1: being clear when I say he should be able to
Speaker 1: pick a new artist, So he should be able to
Speaker 1: hear a dope beat and say this artist should have
Speaker 1: that beat. It would make sense if they were singing
Speaker 1: or rapper on such. If he's not a good If
Speaker 1: he's not a good DJ, he's not even thinking about that.
Speaker 1: All he cares about is playing clubs. If he's a
Speaker 1: good DJ, he cares about what the music is gonna
Speaker 1: sound like. In the next two years. I don't even
Speaker 1: call it taste makers because they put taste makers in
Speaker 1: a totally different thing. My thing is a good DJ
Speaker 1: should be teaching the crowd about something which most DJs
Speaker 1: don't do any well. I'm not most CJ. I'm sings,
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm just I'm just not most. But
Speaker 1: then again, you know, the ones who aren't most are
Speaker 1: the ones who are still here. I've been there for
Speaker 1: a long Let's talk about Japanese connection. What about it?
Speaker 1: You got a lot of Japanese niggas love? Clock? Is that? Okay?
Speaker 1: You got a clock? You gotta clock a lot of
Speaker 1: japan done. I've done a few collaborations with a company.
Speaker 1: Talk about did collaborate? I did two, three, four, I
Speaker 1: did about four five Lafayette collaborations. Ascribe to these people, okay,
Speaker 1: Lafayette is said, inscribed? Inscribed mean described is inscribing and
Speaker 1: inscribing at the same time. What is describing? I understand
Speaker 1: what inscrible?
Speaker 2: Disagree with it?
Speaker 1: It works? Okay?
Speaker 2: It's a dream Champs language.
Speaker 1: You see, you have brands that are super duper popular
Speaker 1: and they're still on the ground level, and they're still
Speaker 1: like you know they're still like gritty and Street. You
Speaker 1: got the Black Scales, you got the Supremes and such.
Speaker 1: You go over to Japan. Lafayette is one of those brands.
Speaker 1: Lafayette's a brand with for like six stores or whatever
Speaker 1: and selling a bunch of shit. And I've done at least, yeah,
Speaker 1: five collabs with them at least. So Supreme is from Japan.
Speaker 1: No Supremes from New York. Okay, but they popping in Japan.
Speaker 1: No Supreme is popping around the universe. Supreme about ragged
Speaker 1: teachers going for a lot of money on the internet
Speaker 1: right now. You know we has all of them. They
Speaker 1: need to sell them. I need a hoe lage. Please,
Speaker 1: thank you. I definitely you got it. See that smile,
Speaker 1: that's the um lying smile you got.
Speaker 17: I need that.
Speaker 1: Listen you tell your needs that I need the gate
Speaker 1: the I didn't want to no inventory. Did I say
Speaker 1: that I need that? Definitely? Tell me get one of
Speaker 1: those storm you got somewhere again, somewhere in my in
Speaker 1: my life, in your mind. You got me my life,
Speaker 1: my life, so clok. You work the big You work
Speaker 1: with Jack, Yes, you work with work with un I
Speaker 1: didn't have the opportunity I wanted to to funny Ship.
Speaker 1: Is the day that I explained to him about the
Speaker 1: about that thing we was on that on the revote crew.
Speaker 1: He was like, YO, give me something. Let's do something
Speaker 1: new again. He knew that I was gonna fuck with
Speaker 1: Davis because I'm I'm gonna do a record for Davis.
Speaker 1: So he's like baby himself, He's like yo, he was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you funk with him. I was like, nah, funks with
Speaker 1: Davies And he's like, yo, you know, send me something.
Speaker 1: So he was like, yo, for me to send him
Speaker 1: something with trade numbers or whatever. Summer sent him something.
Speaker 1: But but that's the craic. He's so lb nos nos
Speaker 1: top five, top five five God you from Queens. I
Speaker 1: understand you saying that. No, I mean, why do I
Speaker 1: have another shot? Because we didn't because you never drink that.
Speaker 1: We didn't. Yeah, we weren't a part of that. Should stop.
Speaker 1: Don't do that. You're my brother, You're not gonna win
Speaker 1: this club. We part of that shot, and we weren't.
Speaker 1: That was come morning. That was your family, brother. You
Speaker 1: gotta relax, Yeah, yeah, got y'all respectful, y'all gotta relax.
Speaker 1: That was y'all ship with each other, take a shot.
Speaker 1: Do what you're gonna do. Ask the quest. My feeling
Speaker 1: was hurt. I would agree with you, right, I would say,
Speaker 1: this is like a Latino thing. But the thing about
Speaker 1: you Latin that's what you just want to get a shot,
Speaker 1: get another shot together? Can I expect you? What are
Speaker 1: you doing after this? I'm going to see Clark. Wait,
Speaker 1: what are you doing after this? I'm going home? What
Speaker 1: are you doing after this? I'm going to see my
Speaker 1: brother DJ.
Speaker 6: Guess what I'm going to do. I'm going to seek
Speaker 6: work and I'm gonna buy you to Guess what I.
Speaker 1: Do right now? That's what I'm doing right now. You're working.
Speaker 1: You'll be done in like ten minutes. But he's gonna
Speaker 1: go see you afterwards. I'm going to see you, but
Speaker 1: you'll be hanging while I'm working. But I gotta also
Speaker 1: keep my life together because you know what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to keep my mind to. So I'm very typical moment
Speaker 1: with a very typical moment. Yeah, we gotta we gotta control.
Speaker 1: We gotta control our environment, and then we gotta you know,
Speaker 1: we gotta do clock. We have to behave ourselves. There's
Speaker 1: a curve here and guess what clock whatever. Listen, we
Speaker 1: are getting people back for the cold Crush brothers, right,
Speaker 1: We're getting them back, Yes, getting back. What he means
Speaker 1: is getting people back for what they did. I like that.
Speaker 1: You gotta relax, let's go, let's get it next.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say.
Speaker 1: You a question. Let's go, but listen, and we're doing
Speaker 1: it in the name of him. Your clock. You know,
Speaker 1: we never had no fake to go on Drink Champs.
Speaker 1: Tony people on Drink Champs. You know why every episode
Speaker 1: in because you know why we really want to big
Speaker 1: up authentic of original hip hop and what is saying
Speaker 1: on your fucking hat the originals? You get ready, you
Speaker 1: want to you know, let's do it. You can't not
Speaker 1: want I go in.
Speaker 15: I'm in with you.
Speaker 1: That my brother light skin a light skin show before
Speaker 1: gona hurt my stomach. That's a shot my brother.
Speaker 7: That's what I know.
Speaker 1: You felt bad doing it, you know, he was like
Speaker 1: I know as as I called you, was like, all right,
Speaker 1: know what you're calling him for. I was, but I
Speaker 1: didn't feel bad because you curved me. I never curved you.
Speaker 1: You did. I was gonna be honest. I swear to god,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back. Let me tell you something about
Speaker 1: sober people. It's on Twitter document one hundred percent. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go back and I'm gonna show it to him,
Speaker 1: he wrote. I wrote him. He like, I gotta get
Speaker 1: Clock on the podcast, and I was like, absolutely, I'm down,
Speaker 1: but don't forget I know you Poppy. So as soon
Speaker 1: as he saw the Poppy is when he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: forget it, scat, I'm going to be honest. I believe that.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, wait wait, I think I can poppy
Speaker 1: old that you said he being oucastic for how long?
Speaker 1: Seven months? Because it took seven months to him to go,
Speaker 1: oh ship, you're gonna do these niggas podcasts, That's what
Speaker 1: he was. No, don't understand me. So the rule at all.
Speaker 1: If I was that important to be on the podcast,
Speaker 1: I would have been third seconds.
Speaker 2: Let's take this shot, not a good little.
Speaker 1: That's good that this is when I that's terribly good.
Speaker 1: It's too good. I love rock the best vocat of
Speaker 1: the planet.
Speaker 6: Know that that is so funny Because I wanted this
Speaker 6: podcast happen so bad.
Speaker 1: I text you, you know he got thirty six hundred sniggers.
Speaker 1: What one? Just one?
Speaker 2: Besides you were.
Speaker 1: Regular? Everything else, I'm gonna do that. You got one
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 2: These acronym nikes.
Speaker 6: Do you see.
Speaker 1: Acronym Nike. I'm gonna do this, dude.
Speaker 15: You gotta hook up. Clark got the hook up, but
Speaker 15: I'm dirty. Got the hook up on the club. Whatever
Speaker 15: the fuck that's going?
Speaker 6: That's me fort dumb hord that regular, like Yo, Clock
Speaker 6: is gonna be in Miami this weekend?
Speaker 1: What's up? I want?
Speaker 2: I was ready.
Speaker 1: I was ready, we were host.
Speaker 2: I was ready. We saw and ready.
Speaker 1: I was on. It don't work out that way. I
Speaker 1: texted you, I don't have I don't have a bob normal.
Speaker 2: I text Norman, check this out.
Speaker 1: Clock is gonna be in Miami this weekend. What's up?
Speaker 3: I wanted to make this happens this Fiji from a
Speaker 3: different Yes, that's e Waters right, it's not even cool.
Speaker 2: This is Fucci.
Speaker 1: It's not even cold. This flats bottom water?
Speaker 2: Yo? But who was that for?
Speaker 8: For you and me?
Speaker 1: I was gonna I thought we were making drinks. I
Speaker 1: didn't know like we're gonna make like a my hat.
Speaker 1: Oh you I'll take a drink with your your clock.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. Why you're getting bottled
Speaker 1: water to put tap water ice in it? All cool?
Speaker 2: I don't even know you from the South of Yeah,
Speaker 2: what would you do that for?
Speaker 1: You? Just you just rolled my own water experience, you know,
Speaker 1: you know from the resource rooms. You know that niggas
Speaker 1: in the resource rooms and especial education. That's that's the
Speaker 1: one I am. I'm that nigga. I have four teachers
Speaker 1: and four students. It was even.
Speaker 2: We were both going you said four, and he said,
Speaker 2: we're both with.
Speaker 1: Even tell me, I'm the most in the world.
Speaker 2: You're the smartness.
Speaker 1: That's why they wanted to killed me. Listen, I'm just John.
Speaker 1: They're gonna John Left killing me meaning under saying listen,
Speaker 1: they're gonna let you live because they're like, that's his man.
Speaker 1: I feel like they're gonna kill me. I got you
Speaker 1: on meaning it was more than it was. He said,
Speaker 1: you said four four, and then he was like, both
Speaker 1: of them. I'm like, who the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Both groups exactly? We're talking about both groups. I got
Speaker 1: to see I got what you was talking about. Don John,
Speaker 1: tell you I understood what you was talking. Just resources
Speaker 1: from crazy, the super resource you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That was the funniest shit ever.
Speaker 1: Claw you did drink champs, you survived. Never sprung about
Speaker 1: any of their personal ship. I know a lot. Get
Speaker 1: them relax and you're looking at me and your lips
Speaker 1: are getting little white. That's how I know. I'm so
Speaker 1: glad there's a camera because they could know that my
Speaker 1: lips ain't getting white. No, in my mind, your lift
Speaker 1: scout what personally you can't ask me ship that. I
Speaker 1: can't be real loud. You've been there for me. But
Speaker 1: when I stepped into this game, I love you. You
Speaker 1: stood there with me. And there was one producer on
Speaker 1: the whole wall report because I used to carry it
Speaker 1: two five on me and I said rhyme, and not
Speaker 1: one producer said you have relax you.
Speaker 6: And you was the only one he said when he
Speaker 6: told you to relax, you had the two five in
Speaker 6: your pocket.
Speaker 1: In the booth, they had two five all the time.
Speaker 1: I know now he's rocking. He's like, hold, don't he
Speaker 1: tells him that clocks. He was the only one and
Speaker 1: he told me, he said, listen, I'm gonna take the
Speaker 1: rhym and I'm gonna chop it up. And that's the
Speaker 1: first time I've ever seen that in my life, that
Speaker 1: I could actually rhyme and get it all out and
Speaker 1: one one whatever. But he could take that and say relax,
Speaker 1: dance and order some pluck you. So after after that advice,
Speaker 1: you kept doing that that way. Listen to his records
Speaker 1: after that one record. After that he understood songs song progression.
Speaker 1: It was verse verse verse hook, verse hook verse hook.
Speaker 1: Think about it because after that album, what album you
Speaker 1: what album you made? That's you go down? Don't let
Speaker 1: me tell you about because I gotta DJ now, I
Speaker 1: gotta go change. No, this is your third fucking champagne
Speaker 1: this water.
Speaker 6: Listen when you DJ, ain't nobody's gonna see your right thigh.
Speaker 6: Nobody's gonna see your right thig. When your DJ, he's
Speaker 6: gone ship right. It wasn't me open that ship up.
Speaker 7: Got that.
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm not. I'm good. You ain't gotta I'm
Speaker 1: so hot, right, you gotta last? I love thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm saying it was really really nice. No, God, listen
Speaker 1: to listen to me, everybody. It was really one of
Speaker 1: the first producers who actually pulled me to the side
Speaker 1: and said, Slim, I understand what you're doing. I get it,
Speaker 1: but let me structure your ship. And it was you too.
Speaker 1: A lot of people credit you know, for Real or Swiss,
Speaker 1: but they came in our album That's Dope to hit us.
Speaker 15: But you were still learning because one of one of
Speaker 15: the stories, no I'm gonna tell you, I'm still learn
Speaker 15: I know.
Speaker 1: But one of the stories that I love from an
Speaker 1: R is that you say.
Speaker 2: That you was counting bars with what what?
Speaker 1: What what? And that's what I love that. I love
Speaker 1: that story. No, that's how I counted balls. But think
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: So claud get executive producing credit for that.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, No, he's not going to give that up because
Speaker 1: he's not gonna look for that check to go. Come
Speaker 1: me for that. But the bottom line, I get what
Speaker 1: you're trying to say. You're trying to say is that
Speaker 1: moment gave you the ability to look at your songs
Speaker 1: differently and and and think songs instead of thinking I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna be rhyming. I get it. Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1: I respect it. And because think about it, after the
Speaker 1: war report what happened?
Speaker 10: What?
Speaker 6: What? What?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 1: How? Long after every sixteen bars? Sixteen bars?
Speaker 8: What? What? What?
Speaker 1: Sixteen bars? Well? What what that was the same sixteen
Speaker 1: bar breakup that I I don't like to say taught.
Speaker 1: I'd rather say I can't talk about it. I say,
Speaker 1: now you know why because I don't. I don't believe that.
Speaker 1: I just believe it was something that he didn't he
Speaker 1: didn't know, But I don't think it was a taught
Speaker 1: It was an enlightened I'm like, yo, look, if you
Speaker 1: do this, it's a song when you The thing is
Speaker 1: when you listen to war report, like I can go
Speaker 1: back to the War Report, and if you listen to
Speaker 1: the War Report, it's a bunch of wild ass records,
Speaker 1: and then this is one record that makes you go, oh,
Speaker 1: I get it, I get all of that wild shit.
Speaker 1: When you listen to Closer to this paper, you just
Speaker 1: do because it calms you down and you can hear
Speaker 1: what he's saying and be like, Okay, before you're just like,
Speaker 1: I'm as wild as this motherfucker right here. But then
Speaker 1: we listen to that, you're like, hold up, he stopped
Speaker 1: for a second, and he gave you closer to this.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So it was it was,
Speaker 1: want to tell you, what's even crazier. It was the
Speaker 1: last record. And the reason why is because honestly, when
Speaker 1: it comes to producing, sometimes I can be a little competitive.
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to hear everything and figure out
Speaker 1: what can I do that's going to be different from
Speaker 1: everything I heard. And everything I heard, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is damn easy. You know why, because the reason
Speaker 1: why he came to me was to try to get
Speaker 1: a single. He was like, YO, give me a single.
Speaker 1: So I gave him a single. Funny shit is it
Speaker 1: wasn't him as a single, so they went with something
Speaker 1: else and it worked out because it was him by himself,
Speaker 1: so it couldn't be a CNN record if it was
Speaker 1: him by himself. If that record was on War Report,
Speaker 1: it could have been a single. But it didn't make
Speaker 1: sense to put the CNN record out without poem. So
Speaker 1: I mean, you know that's the way that worked out.
Speaker 1: Trust me. If that record compone on it, that probably
Speaker 1: would have been for a single because it was it
Speaker 1: was structured like a record like a single. Yes it was,
Speaker 1: And that that's what the that's what he came to
Speaker 1: me for. He's like, give me saying I need a single.
Speaker 1: I'm so scared, And he was scared, and and but
Speaker 1: the thing is the funny Man and the chicks from
Speaker 1: from s WV coming to the studio the other day.
Speaker 1: I was like, I wasn't ready, no, because young dudes,
Speaker 1: you know he's not when I say tell you what
Speaker 1: this is. This is the guy I heard. Dangs, we
Speaker 1: ain't even going to that's we haven't even touched that.
Speaker 1: Am I going there? Right?
Speaker 6: You have to have that's the sec way. You ain't
Speaker 6: going away, Pa, you ain't.
Speaker 1: Going I got you, brother Clark, can't tell him if
Speaker 1: you don't make the d D show. I got you.
Speaker 1: I don't worry about the good.
Speaker 6: Never.
Speaker 1: I won't even touch it. Every thrusting to give me back.
Speaker 1: So it's getting closer, it's getting closer. Never gonna happen.
Speaker 1: So in my mind, damn Dan, Dan said Clark kiss
Speaker 1: coming because I was the biggest day of the day
Speaker 1: Slick Rick fans in the world me and mention the
Speaker 1: Slick is my favorite album. It's my favorite album ever.
Speaker 1: And then Yo, Clark coming to and I know it's name.
Speaker 1: I'm like, so every producer that ever came from the
Speaker 1: workfort like I wanted to shoot them. So you're answered
Speaker 1: my question. It's twenty five was always on it. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I just like shut up, asshole, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: I was just like a death. I feel like you
Speaker 1: can come in here.
Speaker 2: Looking at me at coming there.
Speaker 1: So I felt like that. I felt like I felt
Speaker 1: like what when Clark came in? Clark came was like
Speaker 1: but it felt like an og type of call. I
Speaker 1: felt like, yo, look do that. I get that you
Speaker 1: got because he played the beat and I was just like,
Speaker 1: let's go because that's what I did. Oh the firm
Speaker 1: ship what's the firm ship? Man on the next plane?
Speaker 1: I did as soon as I flu flew fluid and
Speaker 1: I used to write around in jail, so I had
Speaker 1: all wait up the timeline for me.
Speaker 2: At what point you did?
Speaker 1: I'm leaving and I'm leaving right after the war reports,
Speaker 1: right after the war report, after the war report, like
Speaker 1: not war report is out, like right after you finish
Speaker 1: the wordpot is out.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so it's out and then.
Speaker 1: You go do that okay, No, No, I know, I'm
Speaker 1: just nous.
Speaker 8: You know what.
Speaker 2: The crazy The.
Speaker 1: Crazy part is is hot or No is hot by
Speaker 1: himself because his pone is locked up.
Speaker 2: So he on the promo run in Miami.
Speaker 1: That's what we meant. I'm just saying that that's.
Speaker 2: How we want, that's how we meet. The promo run
Speaker 2: in Miami, isl he's.
Speaker 1: War He comes to my store, and I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's ever told you this. He was super stressed
Speaker 1: promoting War Report by himself.
Speaker 2: No fact I saw in my store super stressed.
Speaker 1: Wait, why would I know that? And he's not my
Speaker 1: artist because he's my fucking so I know it wasn't
Speaker 1: easy promoting CNN went only the end is there and
Speaker 1: then the sea can't speak for the sea and the way.
Speaker 1: So trust me, I don't even know like if in
Speaker 1: his heart he really wanted to be nor by himself,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I don't ever think that
Speaker 1: was trust me. When the first time I saw it,
Speaker 1: I was like, that's because Copone is locked up. He
Speaker 1: don't want to do a solo record. It's just that
Speaker 1: CNN War Report was so Niggas looked at that. She
Speaker 1: was like, Nah, that ship. It's almost like he had
Speaker 1: no choice because he had to hold it down. But
Speaker 1: I was around and taking them a drink. Camp should
Speaker 1: we jump on?
Speaker 2: We could jump during the show came No, we still
Speaker 2: we still have to go to the day to day.
Speaker 1: You're not leaving. You talk nothing about day to day. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm not drunk.
Speaker 2: I don't know how I'm not drunk yet. But have
Speaker 2: a shot.
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Shot. We can do another politics, all
Speaker 1: three talk. It's a table thing. No, I'm gonna ship God,
Speaker 1: trust me. I'll leave here.
Speaker 2: It's definitely penalty.
Speaker 1: I might be a drink. He listen, you put my
Speaker 1: shot whatever way, hand met hand your cup?
Speaker 6: I want to put so what that Tony tells these
Speaker 6: ends of the twenty minutes rich Tony and d Night
Speaker 6: can take twenty minutes extra d Night.
Speaker 1: It was one of the show the d Knights who
Speaker 1: I love, who came to me told me how to
Speaker 1: do a show. Here you go, brother, you you let
Speaker 1: me four o clocks? Hold on, where's your cup? Clock?
Speaker 2: You told me how to do a show.
Speaker 1: You respect. Imagine right now, even when I was troking
Speaker 1: weed and he was like, I hate that you always
Speaker 1: hung out with me the clock kid, Tonight, We're gonna
Speaker 1: fucking respect you. Thank you, you man, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: honor you the night Clock. And sorry that maybe the
Speaker 1: US a Jersey accident. It's not a us A. He's
Speaker 1: very offended. This is this is the also hip hop
Speaker 1: are mind? And you know what, you are one of
Speaker 1: the most.
Speaker 2: DJs that we You're the most DJs, the.
Speaker 1: One of the the most dj ever whatever that means.
Speaker 2: You have those DJs. I actually liked it, I know.
Speaker 1: But you're coming at me a little bit. You're the
Speaker 1: most sunless the clock. We're gonna honor you, will continue
Speaker 1: to fucking honor you because you know why, why you
Speaker 1: fucking deserve Thank you. I appreciate it, and I don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm about to salute with you. A bonga
Speaker 1: get your shot.
Speaker 2: I'm pulling you a heavy shot. Let's go, you get
Speaker 2: you get the yeah pink bong.
Speaker 1: I listened every week. I listened, listen, face peel like
Speaker 1: my baby on the body.
Speaker 2: Fuck it, let's go.
Speaker 1: I am not going to the couple that I am
Speaker 1: so happy. That's all. That's all him, that's all. That's all.
Speaker 1: That's all clock shouting, shout the mayor, the poor.
Speaker 2: Oh man claw.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be destroyed by the time.
Speaker 6: You know you're gonna You're gonna ask records, what is
Speaker 6: the Brest brand?
Speaker 1: The brush sneaking, It's the best sneaker brand. That's night.
Speaker 1: I gotta up.
Speaker 15: I like that.
Speaker 1: What's what's the best brand? Like the brand? I like that?
Speaker 1: Uh ad, that's you. That's a that's a send me
Speaker 1: some ship.
Speaker 6: But I get it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. I'm going I'm going to question
Speaker 1: and know how I need that, my brother.
Speaker 6: Listen, hold hold on, let me interject real quick, gious,
Speaker 6: what's that you are you having to make a conversation.
Speaker 1: I don't make a conversation. What's you I'm telling you?
Speaker 6: No, no, no, I forgot see it. Just hit me
Speaker 6: with I'm not drunk you No, no, no, hold on, brother,
Speaker 6: you got the Pharrel plug. That's the real Adida plug.
Speaker 6: I need that shout to push the to who's my
Speaker 6: man and the man you have the pharl plug? That
Speaker 6: means you got the human racist with the Japanese writing
Speaker 6: on them. No, I'm calling you out right now. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 6: I need no no listen, let's listen in your interview
Speaker 6: right now.
Speaker 1: Feedback. I need you sounds like I want to that.
Speaker 1: I no, no, I'm not pausing. I need you. No
Speaker 1: respect you.
Speaker 2: There's no pausing in it.
Speaker 1: Here's the problem with the problem was with Puerto Rican.
Speaker 1: You Puerto Rican black, Puerto Rican Italian. Puerto Rican didn't
Speaker 1: pay attention N and I don't then N, I did
Speaker 1: not pay. You don't speak no, God damn forget Italian.
Speaker 2: Speak to me Italian. I know you got pro run
Speaker 2: on speed dial.
Speaker 1: I need you. No, No, I'm not pausing plugs. I'm
Speaker 1: too old for that pouls ship right now. I need you, brother, to.
Speaker 11: Go on.
Speaker 1: There's no relax. I need you.
Speaker 6: I need that.
Speaker 1: No, I did not. I didn't. Now you know you
Speaker 1: know it's real.
Speaker 2: You have the plug.
Speaker 1: See this, this is this is ship that rappers don't understand.
Speaker 2: That really got the road, You really got cheat codes.
Speaker 2: I need you, brother, So listen.
Speaker 1: He told me my package is gonna arrivee in.
Speaker 2: Gee Christ.
Speaker 1: Where the funk are we? Right?
Speaker 2: Weird hazardous sounds and I need to plug chill.
Speaker 6: You're gonna DJ and a little why you're gonna accidentally
Speaker 6: scratch like nine records because you're halfway through a bottle
Speaker 6: of patron Hold listen, I.
Speaker 1: Just want to get things slipped you. We're gonna go
Speaker 1: past my hotel and I'm there. You feed you top weight.
Speaker 1: I said you would have dropped me to the hotel.
Speaker 6: If mister Lee is busy, I got you, Uper excel,
Speaker 6: I got you, you got your Trump, whatever you want,
Speaker 6: I got you.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 6: Why can't I just say it? Let's listen killing me?
Speaker 6: You know right now, I don't care about your ride
Speaker 6: back to the hotel. I care about no real Farrell DJ.
Speaker 6: Can't you care about I can't.
Speaker 1: It's my hero right now. And the packages be packages
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. You know, we don't
Speaker 1: even want to talk about this because he said they
Speaker 1: don't even want to talk about this. You're talking about
Speaker 1: the text messages will be so extra.
Speaker 2: No, the Texas will be so extra tonight.
Speaker 1: I need you. I leave, I leave. I'll leave it
Speaker 1: to uh the Niggers. I love you.
Speaker 2: He just called you a Bronx snake.
Speaker 1: Hold on, don't bronx nake. I heard brons that's what
Speaker 1: you're gonna ever hear my drunk drunk drunk, got drunk.
Speaker 1: Her brother rewinded me everybody else that ship. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hit it. I hit it, okay exactly. This clock contact
Speaker 1: is really high. I'm fucked up right now. Your clock
Speaker 1: can't the mayor ball the mayor all sneakers to the
Speaker 1: thirty seven.
Speaker 6: Eight hundred thirty seven is an amazing number.
Speaker 1: That's a great job.
Speaker 2: But I agree to that number. You're killing the game play.
Speaker 1: You fucking ill be. I want to respect.
Speaker 15: Currency changes from culture because because he's smart, he's smart
Speaker 15: like that.
Speaker 1: To everybody's ideology.
Speaker 6: Here, wait a minute, he's good.
Speaker 2: It's good.
Speaker 22: Relax, you know, Medal, that's his act. Keep going with
Speaker 22: the act, buddy, you got to relax. But listen, let's
Speaker 22: take another shot. I let's go the you're just talking
Speaker 22: about about what about it that I'm drunk? What about
Speaker 22: With all due respect, I'm not drinking. I don't give
Speaker 22: a funk what y'all say. Drinking one much from Brooklyn?
Speaker 1: You know you can tell me you got to relax
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn I mean, I don't think. I don't think
Speaker 1: drink with your brother, your brother ploral were ship worked
Speaker 1: in the nineties. You want to know what's crazy from Brooklyn?
Speaker 1: Like like peer pressure on funk with me. I never
Speaker 1: forgot pears, like say, you know what's I'm not even lessen.
Speaker 2: I'm just pulling a clock shot.
Speaker 1: And you're gonna lose. B I'm not drinking any guys
Speaker 1: biting each other? Do you want to bite.
Speaker 15: Glass?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You what's really good? Big, We're good. You know
Speaker 1: that I love you to the left out.
Speaker 4: You don't love you no more ever love each other, everybody, Harward,
Speaker 4: let's go, let's go. Come your glass right there, Bama,
Speaker 4: not gonna take it easy. You sitting the scratch now.
Speaker 1: Let's all do expect. This is a motherfucker who has
Speaker 1: nothing to do right now.
Speaker 2: Make him Jay, I changed my flight with you.
Speaker 1: Let's go listen. Check this out. You're my brother, a
Speaker 1: fake that.
Speaker 6: You're worry If I don't get a podcast behind this ship,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be a little I'm.
Speaker 1: Reading back.
Speaker 12: Somebody.
Speaker 1: Hold y'all, Hold y'all, I really ever on that listen.
Speaker 1: I know you're a little funked up, but remember this
Speaker 1: podcast was legends. I was a part of this. We're
Speaker 1: doing it checking the simber guy over here. That's right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I'm gonna call you club really last punk.
Speaker 2: You're out, Clark.
Speaker 1: You miss what I said? Joey? What about Joey? What
Speaker 1: do you think? Shout the established that style tea record
Speaker 1: this crazy bike around his as that that's I ain't
Speaker 1: got nothing bad to say about Joey bart Brooklyn. Is
Speaker 1: he from Flappers? I think yeah, maybe is it flap?
Speaker 1: I think he's from Flappers. She's only bad asking. He
Speaker 1: got a joint with j Cole and he got a
Speaker 1: joint with stous Peak.
Speaker 6: Both of them ships his legend shout the static selected
Speaker 6: them ships is legend.
Speaker 1: That's a producible. I don't know if he produced him
Speaker 1: or not. He produced stous joint. I know that Joy's dope.
Speaker 1: Where are you going with this? I'll just asking you
Speaker 1: heard about Cushing?
Speaker 2: What what you said? I'm your business partner right.
Speaker 1: Now, and I definitely just my questions. Okay, now's next.
Speaker 1: And that was like I don't speak.
Speaker 23: He said, if I do the club, I'm gonna break
Speaker 23: somebody's jaw. I promise you, you're break the job.
Speaker 6: Promise you hearing, I said, Michael, I said, we got
Speaker 6: you the air conditioner.
Speaker 1: I keep it one with all due respect, you did
Speaker 1: not get us the air conditioner. They got you the
Speaker 1: air conditioner. Move the ship over here. I'm not there.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. If I every way, it would be dry
Speaker 1: right now. I got that flock.
Speaker 6: Listen, you know what awesome. Gu I'm good I'm not
Speaker 6: gonna make it the puff party tonight. I'm going to
Speaker 6: your we go to all parties, all party.
Speaker 1: I'm not going I got your word one party, ain't you?
Speaker 2: I got your Come on, there's no word. I'll tell
Speaker 2: you everywhere the six Just.
Speaker 1: What are we at? Where we at right now? Day
Speaker 1: to day? I ain't forget day to day. Let's looking
Speaker 1: some more fast man? Sooners got there stories?
Speaker 2: Why why not.
Speaker 1: Anything about.
Speaker 11: Day?
Speaker 1: My guy?
Speaker 2: How did that happen?
Speaker 1: It happened because I was DJing at a talent show
Speaker 1: at Washington or in high school and those record that
Speaker 1: just dropped and he came to the school and he
Speaker 1: was going to perform for the crowd, and he asked
Speaker 1: me if I could drop the record, And the way
Speaker 1: that I dropped the record made him say, Yo, you
Speaker 1: know that that was perfect? Do you think you could
Speaker 1: like do that for me at another at another place?
Speaker 1: Pause a little little sexpect right there, But anyway, he
Speaker 1: asked me if I could you know DJ form at
Speaker 1: another place? And I said sure, and I did, And
Speaker 1: from that point on I was his DJ day to
Speaker 1: day with Danny Day met me? You got Danny Day
Speaker 1: met me? J Clark What meant he met me being
Speaker 1: DJ Clark and I was already d J Clark when
Speaker 1: he met me, So it wasn't he put me on thing.
Speaker 1: It was a He was like, yo, can can you
Speaker 1: come along with fame? What fan? Yep, Dan dang with fame?
Speaker 1: Here the entertained. By the time I leave, you remember
Speaker 1: my name? The next question I got, I got a
Speaker 1: man questions because I want the world to hear what
Speaker 1: I know. All right, you gotta.
Speaker 2: It's your show. I got to ship ship.
Speaker 1: There was no no, no, I ask nothing interview. I'm
Speaker 1: an interviewer. So there was a point in life.
Speaker 6: Talk about when you when you told the world that
Speaker 6: jay Z was the best MC ever. You told Grand
Speaker 6: Master Kaz that Yeah, and if I'm not mistake, you
Speaker 6: told me that too.
Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily tell them both because I was trying
Speaker 1: to tell them. What I did was I said at
Speaker 1: the New Music Seminar, while the MC battle was going on,
Speaker 1: is that a Jack the Rapper thingland New Music Seminar.
Speaker 1: Jay was with me and I turned and I said
Speaker 1: to him, by the way, this is the best MC
Speaker 1: in the world. Then we kept going with the m
Speaker 1: C battling. By that at the time of the by
Speaker 1: the time the battle was over, Grand Masters and Mellie
Speaker 1: Melwo off to the side of the state. And these
Speaker 1: are my guys, like the god known Grandmaster Kaz for
Speaker 1: a lot of my life and Mel for a lot
Speaker 1: of my originators. Yeah, yeah, was the first best MC ever.
Speaker 6: That's why I brought this up.
Speaker 1: So he says, Nigga, what the fuck is you talking about?
Speaker 1: And Mel was like, nigga, you see me staying there, like,
Speaker 1: how the fuck are you just gonna say some crazy
Speaker 1: ship like that? And you have to understand, like, these
Speaker 1: are guys that I have respect for, and I look
Speaker 1: at like, nah, you guys are the forefront of the culture.
Speaker 1: Think about this. If there's no message, there's no gangster rap.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things no no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, A lot of things would have happened. But
Speaker 1: that was the record when he said what he said
Speaker 1: on the message, and the.
Speaker 11: Fact might have been called reality reality, but all is
Speaker 11: reality right right right right.
Speaker 1: So my thing is, if you don't hear this first
Speaker 1: reality rap record, do you ever get to CNN ever?
Speaker 1: Do you ever get to n w A, Do you
Speaker 1: ever get to Schoolly D?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 1: You don't the first reality rap record that that you
Speaker 1: can know that broke through and made it.
Speaker 2: They did white lines to right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was after the message No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's not that lineage don't matter. What matters is the
Speaker 1: message was made. People heard a child that ship this guy.
Speaker 17: No, no, no no.
Speaker 1: The bottom line is on a record, you heard pretty
Speaker 1: lady living in a bag. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You heard may tag, You heard all kinds of crazy
Speaker 1: shit on this one record that wasn't Yeah, We're gonna
Speaker 1: go to the party, were gonna botlems, We're gonna get
Speaker 1: drunk and we're gonna have a party, because every record
Speaker 1: before that was that until Melly Mellan Duke Booty made
Speaker 1: the message rap changes. I mean anything that anything that
Speaker 1: you would have said was reality became gangster rap, which
Speaker 1: is corny because it should all be called reality rap.
Speaker 6: After after you told him Jay was the best ever,
Speaker 6: what's going to be the best ever? How long after
Speaker 6: did they sit there and tell you that they.
Speaker 1: Agree with you? Oh? Maybe about about three years later.
Speaker 1: There was a there was a Zulu There was a
Speaker 1: Zulu anniversary conference, and the Bronx I was actually in
Speaker 1: Manhattan and Grandmaster Kas had a table in it where
Speaker 1: he was selling Grand h all of like like Grandmaster
Speaker 1: Cads had a table full of tapes of Phyllis, Phyllis four,
Speaker 1: Fantastic five, Furious five, Current Cat for sim C's Cold
Speaker 1: Crush Brothers. He had this table where he was selling
Speaker 1: actual cassette copies of the old school jams that were
Speaker 1: on tapes back in the days. At this at this
Speaker 1: at the Zulu Anniversary. And I walked into the Zulu
Speaker 1: Niversity and I see Kaz and I'm like, damn, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I could speak to my man, who
Speaker 1: I've known since I was a young boy, is he
Speaker 1: gonna still be like what up?
Speaker 2: And he was like, Yo, let me talk to you.
Speaker 1: And I'm like shit. So we go over to the side.
Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, I just want to tell you something. Man.
Speaker 1: He was right about jay Z. And I was like shit.
Speaker 1: So everything I was trying to tell y'all, tell y'all, like, dude,
Speaker 1: is like really that deal? Like nobody would listen to
Speaker 1: me and understand me. Like jay Z had come out
Speaker 1: second album, were rocking, nobody could tell me anything. You
Speaker 1: say what you want to say, feel how you want
Speaker 1: to feel. I knew I was right. Jay Z is
Speaker 1: killing it, and then Grandmaster says, who you was right
Speaker 1: about jay Z? To me that damn nar was my
Speaker 1: grammy because he's Grandmaster Kasz. He's the first MC that
Speaker 1: I looked at and was like, he's the best. Even
Speaker 1: though Ratt would look at Melly Mellon go he was
Speaker 1: the best. I looked at Katz and was like, I
Speaker 1: really like Melly Melo, but I think he's the best.
Speaker 1: So the first best MC came to me and said, yo,
Speaker 1: you was right about jay Z. Karas One tried to
Speaker 1: tell me I was bugging when I was talking about
Speaker 1: when I was talking about jay Z, he did.
Speaker 2: We was in the studio, we were at I never
Speaker 2: heard that he knew he was dope.
Speaker 1: One was making a record called five Boroughs and he
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'm gonna put the Dots effects Dots
Speaker 1: effects on it. I was like, yo, you sho, you
Speaker 1: should put jay Z on it. He was like why
Speaker 1: and I was like what, Like what the fuck are
Speaker 1: you talking about? Like I said, dog, jay Z is
Speaker 1: that nigga?
Speaker 11: Like?
Speaker 1: He was like, I don't know what you see clock
Speaker 1: And I was like, you from Brooklyn. Yeah, understand me.
Speaker 1: He was making a record called five Rows, so it
Speaker 1: would have been somebody from Brooklyn, you know, standing down
Speaker 1: in Queen's line. You know what I'm saying. He chose
Speaker 1: Dos and I was looking at him like, dog, I'm
Speaker 1: not mad at you choosing Dos because they're from Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: so I'm not mad period, but dog, like jay Z
Speaker 1: is an inferno, like you might want to use it.
Speaker 1: He was like why, I don't get it? And I
Speaker 1: was just like, what you put a bridge? He should
Speaker 1: have moved, like you know what I'm saying, like you what,
Speaker 1: what the fuck are you listening to? That? You can't
Speaker 1: say that dude is super nice, Like he's not nice
Speaker 1: on a regular level. He's like nice on the level
Speaker 1: that you can't even come close to, Like he's like
Speaker 1: nice somewhere else, like if there's an alternate Earth, Jay's
Speaker 1: there by himself. You know what I'm saying, Like, what
Speaker 1: the nicer you talking about? So when you say that
Speaker 1: to me, get to understand. I'm the guy who's standing
Speaker 1: in front going nah, nigga, you can't fuck with hole.
Speaker 1: But then you tell me that, like you what, come
Speaker 1: on and stop it? Then you deserve a smack on
Speaker 1: the hand for that, like, let your jealousy together the way.
Speaker 14: I like that.
Speaker 1: Man, you don't know what you was talking about? Do
Speaker 1: you will tell them what that? Tell him?
Speaker 2: Just tell him, no, just tell him.
Speaker 1: Fuck. I'm like, fuck my nigga, Yeah, fuck, can't there's
Speaker 1: anything better? Then we keep continue to praise and respect
Speaker 1: and your presence has rung us to the drink champs.
Speaker 1: And we love you. We love everything you represent. You
Speaker 1: love everything you had a part to be a part of.
Speaker 1: And you are you doing? Yo? Come on, guys, guy.
Speaker 2: Talk over here.
Speaker 1: Man. You love everything that Clark Kent is a part
Speaker 1: of the work. Clark Kent, He's sitting here like a
Speaker 1: red devil blood God the fuck are you talking about
Speaker 1: right now? You know you're in the gang world, yo.
Speaker 1: I guess because I would like to say Norway, thanks
Speaker 1: for having me, Maya, thanks for for for for Convict
Speaker 1: and EFN you know you, my nigga. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the funck he is talking about right now? What
Speaker 1: gangs like? Thank you for having me? You went to the.
Speaker 2: House then put your album?
Speaker 1: Can't thank you for being here? You want a blame Chancellor,
Speaker 1: m me, you wanted to work. Verse very first people
Speaker 1: who sat down with me and told me relas so
Speaker 1: you had to make a record six hundred balls. Wait,
Speaker 1: y'all need to do a record together. Now you got
Speaker 1: ala ship the work. Let's have that happened, like I
Speaker 1: love that's we're doing it already. All right then I'm
Speaker 1: a fucking prophet. You gotta relax. I don't be honest,
Speaker 1: I don't cigarette. I'm no a no talk. I'm not
Speaker 1: going just trust me. I'm not the manager. But no, no,
Speaker 1: thank you so much, thank you for having me, Bro,
Speaker 1: Thank you your man. I know this is a pleasure.
Speaker 10: Was to thank you for having it one year anniversary.
Speaker 10: I'm advisity nice, Okay, thank you so much. I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Listen, I just want to say thank you for having
Speaker 1: me here. And it's an honor to be your one
Speaker 1: year anniversary guests.
Speaker 2: Let's take let's take a shout to that no shot.
Speaker 1: Up yo. Let you know, lets you know you're from
Speaker 1: the Brolet's mind, you know what's just no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I officially ain't ship for real. No, you really take this,
Speaker 1: y'all have taken not taking a shot y'all, ain't you
Speaker 1: gotta ship? Cluck. You gotta walk away from just take
Speaker 1: want we gotta take pictures. Then you gotta take pictures.
Speaker 2: Do this.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take pictures that you want. I'm not taking
Speaker 1: make some mo clock came away. Let that go, Let
Speaker 1: that go, Let that go, yes, sir, let that go
Speaker 6: Here,