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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly

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Speaker 2: source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and

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Speaker 2: whatever stupid stuff they decide to drop into the show. Now,

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Speaker 2: here's your host, Paul Chargony.

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Speaker 1: Everybody, it is Fantasy Football Weekly and off season free

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Speaker 1: Agent edition of Fantasy Football Weekly. My co host today,

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Speaker 1: like two weeks ago, Brian Johnson, Hey, buddy.

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Speaker 3: What's going on, charg Yeah, We're we're in full on

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Speaker 3: off season, full on depression, no games on Sunday mode.

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Speaker 3: But our first, our first milestone we have to look

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Speaker 3: forward to is free agency. There's a well, actually the

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Speaker 3: combine coming.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Combine coming up is a biggie, right, So that's

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks from now, and then you know,

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Speaker 1: we're only three and a half weeks away from free

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Speaker 1: agency starting. It's it's all coming. Over the course of

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Speaker 1: the show, we'll talk through the key free agents, not

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Speaker 1: all of them, just too many, the guys that you

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Speaker 1: care most about at quarterback, running back, wide receiver, tight end.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about what kind of landing space they might find,

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Speaker 1: you know, is it going to be a hot market.

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Speaker 1: Is it going to be a cold market? You know?

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Speaker 1: Where do we want them to go? And we'll break

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Speaker 1: down all of those guys. Also, I'll mention this, Brian,

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Speaker 1: We're recording this a couple of days before people are

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Speaker 1: going to hear it because I'm going to be a

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Speaker 1: whiskey weekend. I can't wait. If you're a bourbon drinker

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Speaker 1: and you want to follow along with our fourth this

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Speaker 1: our fifteenth year, I think of our our blind March

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Speaker 1: Madness style whiskey bracket double elimination. Follow me on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at Paul charci In very excited for that.

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Speaker 3: I threw you a recommendation as you tweeted it out

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Speaker 3: as you do every year, because we don't you don't

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Speaker 3: get too into into your bit, but you got to

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Speaker 3: bring a new bottle every year essentially, And yeah, I

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Speaker 3: had a somewhat out of the box recommendation. I'll be

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Speaker 3: curious to see if you actually took it. We can't.

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Speaker 1: We can't can't because it's all it's all blind. That's

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Speaker 1: part of the beauty of this format is at the

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Speaker 1: top of every hour you get we have one guy

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Speaker 1: who administers it, and so he knows all the secrets.

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Speaker 1: He knows what bottles what we don't know when we're

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Speaker 1: drinking it. All you know is you get about a

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Speaker 1: half shot glass of one that's marked A and one

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Speaker 1: that's marked B. So there's no marketing. You don't the bottle.

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Speaker 1: You don't have. All you have to go on is taste.

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Speaker 1: That's it. You don't know what you're drinking. And so

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Speaker 1: a lot of the times you think you love this

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Speaker 1: particular bourbon, and then when it comes up, it might

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Speaker 1: turn out you like a different one better, and maybe

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Speaker 1: you're even lukewarm on the one that you brought. And

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Speaker 1: that's what has happened a lot. We had. One year,

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Speaker 1: my good friend Brian other Brian, not You've not you

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Speaker 1: friend Brian brought a two hundred dollar bottle of Middleton

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Speaker 1: and he I previously described it as angels tears in

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Speaker 1: time it came up, he voted against it. Second time

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Speaker 1: He knocked his own bottle out of our competition.

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Speaker 3: That's like the sixteen seed knocking out the one seed

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Speaker 3: in the n c DOAA tournament, which happened recently. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, was it just last year?

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Speaker 3: No, it was a a few years ago. And then

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Speaker 3: they went on to win the national championship the next year, Virginia.

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Speaker 3: I remember that because that was the final four in Minneapolis, Virginia.

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Speaker 1: A few years ago.

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Speaker 3: lose as the number one seed, and then the next

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Speaker 3: year they came back and won the national championship. Pretty

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Speaker 3: impressive rebound from the most embarrassing, yeah, accomplishment in college basketball.

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Speaker 1: Right, So that's either going to galvanize you into a

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Speaker 1: and it's going to spiral you down. In Virginia, obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know they rebounded from it. An impressive job for them.

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Speaker 3: Look at us breaking down and c doub play best.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's well barely, it's about all that.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk football.

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Speaker 1: Now, let's talk football. Let's begin at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: We have two notable unrestricted free agents there more Obviously,

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Speaker 1: with Baker Mayfield coming off by I think, in most regards,

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Speaker 3: we know how that ended. Baker won the job and

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Speaker 3: he never gave it back. Let's look back at his

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Speaker 3: stats real quick from last year. Ninth in passing yards,

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Speaker 3: Baker was. His twenty nine passing touchdowns were the sixth most.

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Speaker 3: to those six quarterbacks who threw more touchdowns in Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did not expect that going into the season that

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Speaker 1: you get more touchdowns out of Baker Mayfield than Patrick

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Speaker 3: And Baker had less picks than Mahomes he had more

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Speaker 3: he must have had more fantasy points in Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: He didn't.

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Speaker 3: Mahomes beat him out on rushing yards. Essentially, he had

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Speaker 3: beat out Patrick. I'm sorry how Patrick Mahomes beat out

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Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield in terms of fantasy points. So he is

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Speaker 3: a hot commodity, Like you said, he's a lot hotter

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Speaker 3: Tampa Bay, which honestly isn't as appealing because Mike Evans

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Speaker 3: I'm hoping he ends up there. But I just feel

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Speaker 3: like Tampa Bay is going to resign Baker, but without

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Speaker 3: Mike Evans. I don't like his prospects as much. Assumably

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Speaker 1: Ye kind of with you on that Atlanta would be interesting,

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Speaker 1: Let's talk Kirk Cousins, who was on an MVP pace

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Speaker 1: when he blew out his achilles, leading the league in yards,

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Speaker 1: in a season in which Lamar Jackson won the MVP

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 3: And before Kirk quent down in what week eight nine,

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Speaker 3: he was five fantasy quarterback just speaking fantasy.

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, Yeah, I'm glad you brought

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Speaker 1: that up, so let's talk about that. So when he

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Speaker 1: went down, he was quarterback five in fantasy for a

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Speaker 1: non rushing, like zero rushing quarterback. That's pretty good. He's

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Speaker 1: still only playing half a season. He still finished his

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Speaker 1: quarterback twenty four. Just pretty impressive year. Prior, Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 1: he had been a solidly top ten quarterback for three

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Speaker 1: saw him dance three weeks ago, right, so I think

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Speaker 1: landing places for Cousins, Denver, Pittsburgh, Tampa if they don't go,

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, Atlanta. But the best fit is just to

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Speaker 1: stay with Minnesota. With what we know that he's got here,

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Speaker 1: Kirk Kirk and Kevin O'Connell really were hitting their stride

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Speaker 1: in a big way. Presumably the team resigns Justin Jefferson

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Speaker 1: Hockkinson back off of his knee injury.

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Speaker 1: So what we know from Jefferson is super Bowl Week

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Speaker 1: when he at Radio Row, he was pounding the table

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Speaker 1: for Kirk Cousins at every stop, and he had been

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Speaker 1: saying pretty much outright, you know, look at what we're

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Speaker 1: Kirk and then Justin Jefferson. Recently, a report came media

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Speaker 1: report came out and said that Jefferson says that if

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Speaker 1: solution in place at quarterback. Totally. I don't blame him,

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Speaker 1: and obviously Kirk would qualify for that. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: the running backs, Brian, you can go as it me

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Speaker 1: or you first. I think it's I think it is

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Speaker 1: you first. Let's take. Let's take a look at your

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Speaker 3: Back off the I'll go first because I got the King.

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Speaker 3: Derek Henry. Yeah, yeah, Dereck Henry. Future Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 3: He should be in the Hall of Fame already based

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Speaker 3: on his career numbers. We'll sort of dive into those

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Speaker 3: in a minute, but he turned thirty last month, going

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Speaker 3: into his ninth season in twenty twenty four. So of course,

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Speaker 3: the age old question for running backs is he have

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Speaker 3: enough tread on the tires. Last year, two hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty carries. That's still like belcow usage, especially in this

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Speaker 3: day and age, And despite averaging a career low four

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Speaker 3: point two yards per carry, Henry finished with nearly twelve

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Speaker 3: hundred rushing yards twelve rushing touchdowns that gave him six

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Speaker 3: straight seasons with double digit rushing scores. Twenty eight catches

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Speaker 3: last year thirty three and twenty twenty two. Now those

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Speaker 3: aren't huge numbers, but those are the two highest season

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Speaker 3: catch totals in his career for the last two years,

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Speaker 3: so he's still he's more versatile than ever, you can

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Speaker 3: put it that way. So I mean two hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty carries, he was down from about like three hundred

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Speaker 3: and thirty carries last year, so he's not gonna be

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Speaker 3: his three hundred plus carry seasons likely over. But I'm

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Speaker 3: in on Derrick Henry. Wherever he ends up. He's already

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Speaker 3: got the hype video up on Twitter. You know, he's

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Speaker 3: doing bench presses with a car on his stomach and

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Speaker 3: he's like chewing through metal chord.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: He's a beast. And you know, places where he could

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Speaker 3: I think Minnesota could use a guy like Derrick Henry

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Speaker 3: yards on just forty nine percent of his carries. That

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00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 3: was the worst clip among qu qualifying running backs two

432
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 3: plus yards after contact. I'm sorry I flubbed that stat.

433
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 3: So he was not efficient and he wasn't efficient near

434
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 3: the goal line because of the Toush push. We all

435
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 3: know that, and Jason Kelcey if he retires. Of course,

436
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 3: everyone knows Jason Kelcey more so for the partying now,

437
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 3: but he was the starting center for the Eagles and

438
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 3: a big part of the Tousch push. If the Toush

439
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: push stays intact or if it's band, who knows. But

440
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 3: he wasn't trusted near the goal line, So odds are

441
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 3: he's not back in Philly again. It's the same list

442
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 3: of running backs or landing spots that are out there.

443
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 3: You'd be intriguing in Cincinnati, But Swift was a disappointment

444
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 3: as a pass catcher. Thirty nine catches last year. That

445
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 3: was not a lot he was. We expected a bigger

446
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 3: role from him there. But I still think he's an

447
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 3: able pass catcher, but he's better served as a one

448
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 3: to two punch. What about like a Derek's Derrick Henry

449
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 3: DeAndre Swift both going to the same team. Wow, just

450
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 3: letting those two go at it or Derreck Henry Tony Pollard.

451
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 3: That's the kind of pairing we need, I feel. But

452
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 3: that's where Swift will thrive in a situation like that.

453
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, not just maybe just not a work

454
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 1: course back. Just that's the you know, that's just the

455
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: reality of it for DeAndre Swift.

456
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 3: It's a dying breed. The bellcoal back. We started saying

457
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 3: this last year and going into last year, it was

458
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 3: like Derek Henry, Saquon Barkley were some of the last remaining.

459
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 3: A year later we're talking about them. How there might

460
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 3: be watched up.

461
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: Yep, speaking washed up. Let's go to Austin Eckler. You'll

462
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: have to decide for yourself where he stands. But this

463
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,479
Speaker 1: is gonna be a tricky one to figure out, coming

464
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: off two seasons, the prior two seasons before twenty twenty,

465
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: so this would be twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two,

466
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: twenty touchdowns and eighteen touchdowns, and then last year, of course,

467
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: the productivity just fell off a cliff for him, just

468
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: six touchdowns despite playing fourteen games for Austin Eckler and

469
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 1: his six hundred rushing yards for Eckler ranked thirty sixth

470
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: Brian in the league. His four hundred and thirty six

471
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: receiving yards was only ninth. I mean, we're used to

472
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: a guy who was top ten in both. He's like

473
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: number one in res yards and you'd be like number

474
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: seven in rushing yards, and he had the gaudy touchdown

475
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 1: totals and it all dried up. He's he'll be twenty

476
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: nine years old at the start of the season, and

477
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: you know, the other side of it is he's kind

478
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: of a young twenty five in that he didn't start

479
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: getting real workload until he was twenty four years old,

480
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: so he's really had like five years of real work

481
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: And to me, just clearly for Eckler, he needs to

482
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: find himself in a role where he can be James White,

483
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: where he can be like the best receiving back in

484
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: the league. And I it's not like I wouldn't give

485
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: him any carries, but I want to see what he

486
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 1: could do if he were if he remained like a

487
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: seventy target running back and only had you know, like

488
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,719
Speaker 1: eighty carries on the season. That to me is the

489
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 1: where Austin Eckler is right, now, what do you think?

490
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, there were times last year where he almost looked

491
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 3: like a full back running the ball out of the backfield.

492
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 3: He's bettered off as a pass catching specialist. Like you

493
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 3: said at this point, it's it's it sucks when this

494
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 3: happens because he was RB one. He was the top

495
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 3: fantasy player in twenty twenty two. And that's what happens

496
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 3: when when you chase last year's production. I mean, really,

497
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 3: Austin Eckler. The cautionary tales are all in this list.

498
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 3: Austin Eckler, Tony Pollard, chasing, chasing these those stats doesn't

499
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 3: usually work out. So but I don't think he's totally

500
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 3: washed yet. But yeah, he needs to be in the

501
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 3: right spot where he's gonna get you sixty seventy catches

502
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 3: to be fantasy relevant, because if he doesn't, he's probably

503
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: not gonna be relevant at all in fantasy football next year.

504
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 3: For this year, I should say.

505
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: Let me give you some some really intriguing landing spots

506
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: for Austin Eckler as a pure receiving back or primary

507
00:26:54,000 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: receiving back Indianapolis with Jonathan Taylor. Okay, how about Jacksonville

508
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: with Travis Etn as the lead back?

509
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 3: I like it.

510
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: How about replacing Jeric McKinnon in Kansas City.

511
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: That's that was the one I was going to lead

512
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 3: off with that, that's the most.

513
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: And how about this one where he wouldn't have to

514
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 1: sell his house. You could go to the rams and

515
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: be the receiving option that Kien Williams really isn't. What

516
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: do you think of that option?

517
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 3: You know, I hate that option.

518
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: I know you love ky but the reality is Williams

519
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: is not any lead pass catching back. Austin Eckler's still

520
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: could be.

521
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 3: Well, the thing is, I liked Karen Williams more as

522
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 3: a pass catcher last year because like they were gonna

523
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 3: use him as a James White, who we just the

524
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 3: afore meentioned James White. So I think you're a little

525
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 3: off on the pass catching for Kyra Willams. Don't.

526
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: They didn't use him that way, you know, for whatever

527
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 1: that indicates, you know, I think Williams ended up. I'm

528
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: gonna look it up now, Kyn Williams. I think I

529
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: want to say it, like thirty five receptions.

530
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 3: Take don't forget he missed four games.

531
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: He had thirty two receptions for two hundred yards. And

532
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 1: yes he did miss games. He played in twelve games,

533
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: so still that's yeah.

534
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 3: Well they were throwing the ball. They were throwing it

535
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 3: to Pookin Nakua. That's why. That's that's my story and

536
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 3: I'm sticking to it.

537
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: Sounds good. Let's take a break when we come back.

538
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: Wide receivers and tight ends that are headed to free

539
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:39,239
Speaker 1: agency when we come back Fantasy Football Weekly. All right,

540
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly. Paul Charchi and Brian Johnson

541
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: with us. You can follow us on Twitter at Paul

542
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: Charcian at bt XJ, and you might want to follow

543
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: Guillotine Leagues as well at gl chop. We are behind

544
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: the scenes already hard at work getting all kinds of

545
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: improvements in place for Guillotine Leagues twenty twenty four. Very excited.

546
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: Can't talk about him yet because they're not done yet,

547
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: but we're we got a lot of things in motions.

548
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: Can be very exciting year.

549
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 3: Around the corner, the blade is being sharpened.

550
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: We are sharpening the blade. I like it, off season

551
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: blade sharpening. Let's jump into wide receivers, Brian, I'll start

552
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: with Mike Evans. Okay, likely a Hall of Fame career

553
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: ten straight when thousand yard seasons is ridiculous, Brian, Now,

554
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: a thousand yards isn't what it used to be, you know,

555
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: because the league is so pass heavy and there's so

556
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: many advantages for the passing attack now, but the durability

557
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: to just make it through ten seasons unbelievable. He's thirty

558
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: years old now, Bucks could move on, but you know,

559
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: he's coming off a fourteen hundred yard season, which is

560
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: more yards than he had in the two years with

561
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, and he had it with Baker Mayfield. I

562
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: don't know if there's going to be a big market

563
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: for Mike Evans, a thirty year old guy. Do you

564
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: want to sign a thirty year old to a three

565
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: year deal?

566
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: Now?

567
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: The Vikings walked on ad feeling at age thirty one

568
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: last year, coming off a long, very productive career. What

569
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: do you think, What do you think the likelihood is

570
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: of What kind of market do you think they'll be

571
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: for Mike Evans, including Tampa and others? Do you think

572
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a coveted free agent?

573
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 3: I think from what I've read, and it makes sense,

574
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,479
Speaker 3: like you said, because he's thirty the production likely to

575
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 3: dip could be starting this year, but I don't think

576
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 3: he's going to fall off a clip by any means.

577
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 3: But it's kind of teams that are in win now mode.

578
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 3: And then the two teams that I've the most steam

579
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 3: around are the Chiefs. They need three wide receivers in

580
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 3: Kansas City, where she Rice is the only competent wide

581
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 3: receiver they have in my mind, and the Lions supposedly

582
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 3: will be in the market for a wide receiver. So

583
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 3: outside of Tampa Bay, those are the two spots I

584
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 3: think we could see Evans land, but I think it

585
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 3: makes the most sense just to keep him in Tampa Bay.

586
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 3: I know they obviously love him there between the Lions

587
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 3: on the field, but he's also integral member of the

588
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 3: community and has been for quite some time, so they

589
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 3: love him there and I would be shocked if they

590
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: don't retain he and Baker Mayfield. And we mentioned this

591
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 3: earlier for Baker's sake. If he stays in Tampa Bay,

592
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 3: you sure as hell hope that they keep Mike Evans

593
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 3: as well.

594
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, the teams get sentimental about Hall of Fame level players, right,

595
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: and I do think they'll try to sign him But

596
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: here's what's weird, really weird, Brian. Last Monday, the team

597
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: chose to absorb a seven million dollar dead cap space hit,

598
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: which is something they could have avoided had they gotten

599
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: a new deal done with him, but they didn't, And

600
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: so you know, they just threw away seven million dollars

601
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: a cap space not signing him, and the franchise tag

602
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: is not plausible. It's twenty eight million dollars for him,

603
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: so there's no chance they're gonna franchise him for him

604
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: landing spots. You mentioned Kansas City. Let me give you

605
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: another one. What do you think of Buffalo? You know,

606
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: Gabe Davis is gonna walk. They're not gonna keep Gabe Davis.

607
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: Instead of Gabe Davis, with all of the ups and

608
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: downs that he gives you, you get a sure handed

609
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: end zone threat in Mike Evans. And you know here

610
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: they are Imagine the Bills are the three yard line, Brian.

611
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: You think they're gonna push push Josh Allen. But here's

612
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: Mike Evans. Great, you know, legendarily effective from close in

613
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: the stripe. He's effectively a goal line back wide receiver. Buffalo,

614
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: I think would be really interesting as defenses that have

615
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: to try to figure out how to defend a Josh

616
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: Allen Tush push or a pass to Mike Evans. What

617
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: do you think of Buffalo as a landing spot?

618
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense too, and they certainly fit the

619
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 3: mold of the the win Now teams right.

620
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not going to rebuilding team, right.

621
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 3: No, no chance, hopefully not. I hopefully learned his lesson

622
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 3: from from Adam Thiel. And I saw someone mentioned Carolina.

623
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, no more potential Hall of famers going

624
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 3: to Carolina in the twilight of their career. That's that's

625
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 3: kills shot. Yes, Ronnie hope of winning a title.

626
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: Not that I think Adam had a nice career, but

627
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: not a Hall of Fame career. Jets probably need another

628
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: wide receiver opposite Garrett Wilson, and he's Garrett Wilson is

629
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: not the same kind of big bodied guide like Mike

630
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: Evans is and Aaron Rodgers will be back Baltimore would

631
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: be interesting. They re signed Nelson Agilar this week, but

632
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: they still need a legit number two wide receiver and

633
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: evans physical play is something that none of the wide

634
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: receivers in Baltimore have, so those to me are some

635
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: of the ideal landing spots for Mike Evans. Let's go

636
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: to Michael Pittman, who I think it could be a

637
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: franchise tag candidate here. What do you have on Pittman?

638
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's certainly a candidate to be tagged by the Colts,

639
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,239
Speaker 3: And honestly, if they don't, they're they're they're moronic if

640
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 3: they let if they let Pittman walk. Who turns twenty

641
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 3: seven in October. Michael Pittman so pretty much entering the

642
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 3: prime of his career right right now. And in the event,

643
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 3: you don't know what he looks like, six ' four,

644
00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 3: two hundred and thirty pounds, absolute monster, kind of another

645
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 3: dying breed in the NFL, but you know, this was

646
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 3: like the prototypical alpha receiver build. You don't see a

647
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 3: lot of him anymore, but he still pulls it off.

648
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: And he's been doing a good job, especially last year

649
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 3: fourth in catches with one hundred and nine finished just

650
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 3: over eleven hundred and fifty receiving yards, four touchdowns. Bump

651
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: those numbers up a little bit along with one hundred

652
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 3: and nine catches, and he's right in that top tier

653
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 3: of wide receivers. Cdum Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, all those guys,

654
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 3: and you know, he's Indy. Is not the best fit

655
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 3: for him fantasy wise in my mind. You know, we

656
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 3: only got to see Anthony Richardson for a game and

657
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 3: a half, but he's a running quarterback. They got a

658
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 3: strong run game with Jonathan Taylor coming back. So I

659
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 3: would like to see him end up somewhere else a

660
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 3: little more exciting.

661
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: But I think.

662
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: Minimal chance that the Colts let him walk. They really

663
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 3: should not.

664
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: You know, related to that, let's let's just go maybe

665
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 1: a few hundred miles away in Cincinnati, Higgins, do you uh,

666
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's a given that they can

667
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: afford to keep Higgins. You know, there's talk that they'll

668
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: franchise tag him too, but they have so much money

669
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: tied up in in Burrow and they've got to go,

670
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: and you know, Jamar Chase, that's you know, you wonder

671
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: if Higgins is going to be the odd man out

672
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: or if Higgins is going to have have an opportunity

673
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: to stay in Cincinnati.

674
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, initially, you know a few months ago, a couple

675
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 3: of months ago, it seemed like Higgins was all but

676
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 3: guaranteed to be an unrestricted free agent, especially with Jamar.

677
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 3: Chase had a comment somewhere along the lines like, we'll

678
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 3: see if they have enough money to pay him after

679
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: they pay me. Basically right, But now now it's leaning

680
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 3: towards they tag Higgins if not, though he certainly right

681
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 3: up there with Pittman and Evans in terms of highlight

682
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 3: names on the market. But I think he's more of

683
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 3: a coin flip than Pittman in my mind at this point,

684
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 3: I think Pittman leaning towards more getting tagged by the Colts.

685
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 3: I don't know if you agree there.

686
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Pittman is more likely to get tagged

687
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: because the Colts just have more space to work with

688
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: the Bengals. Right now, looking it up, yeah, I was

689
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: I was wrong. Bengals halfs caps cap have do have

690
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: cap space. Bengals and Colts are right next to each

691
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: other with both effectively fifty nine million dollars in cap space.

692
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think I think there is a much

693
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: better chance than I originally thought of T Higgins staying

694
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: with his team. Let's go to Calvin Ridley. I picked

695
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: this up from somebody on Twitter, and I'm sorry I

696
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: didn't jot down who it was. If the Jaguars sign

697
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley Bryan, they the third rounder they owe the

698
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: Falcons for that trade becomes a second rounder because of

699
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: because he gets resigned as one of the conditions of

700
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: the trade. But if they let him walk, they only

701
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: have to give the third rounder to the Falcons and

702
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: they likely get third round come pensatory pick compensation, so

703
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: they it would probably be a push. They'd lose a

704
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: third and they'd get a third and so to some

705
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 1: you know, to some degree, it cost them a second

706
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: rounder to re sign Ridley. They could put that second

707
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: rounder into a twenty two year old wide receiver. So

708
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: I think there's some sneaky there's some sneaky reasons here

709
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: why Calvin Ridley will not be back with the Jaguars.

710
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: He's a low mileage twenty nine year old because he

711
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: was older as a rookie, and then he got suspended

712
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: for a season, so he really hasn't played nearly as much.

713
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he's within a year of Mike Evans by age,

714
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: but he's got half as many seasons played as Mike

715
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: Evans does. Aside from Gabe Davis, Ridley last year was

716
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: the league's biggest boom or bust receiver. Get this, he

717
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: had six top ten Fantasy games last year. His other

718
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: eleven games, Brian he averaged as wide receiver fifty five

719
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: in those weeks, averaging three catches for thirty two yards.

720
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: Awful for Calvin Ridley as a boomer bust player. There

721
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: are media reports that say Jacksonville try to resign him,

722
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: but I don't know here. I mean, ideally, you know,

723
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: we don't if we don't care if they give up

724
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: the second round or not. I mean, I'd love to

725
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: see him stay Jacksonville where he remains the best outside

726
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: receiver for sure, and maybe the best overall receiver on

727
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: Jacksonville with a good young quarterback. But you know, maybe

728
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: because he's older, he doesn't want to go to a

729
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: rebuilding team, which would put him on potentially Kansas City

730
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: or Buffalo or Baltimore, some of the teams we were

731
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: talking about with Mike Evans.

732
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. I remember Ridley had really weird splits with Zay

733
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 3: Jones last year because dy Jones was in and now

734
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: the lineup with injury, and you'd think, oh, when Zay

735
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: Jones was injured, Ridley must have had the big games.

736
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 3: But No, it's when say Jones was playing, is when

737
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 3: Bridley would really go off eared.

738
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: He's not.

739
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 3: He's not. He's not a guy like I would like

740
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 3: to see him on another team, Like Michael Pittman, I'd

741
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: like to see him on another team. I think Ridley

742
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 3: can find success in Jacksonville, but like you mentioned, when

743
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 3: it comes to the picks, I think, based on the

744
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: inconsistencies we saw last year, that retaining Ridley is not

745
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 3: worth losing out on the pick compensation side. So I

746
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 3: think we will see him, see him hit the market

747
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 3: and uh again, all the a lot of interesting landing

748
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 3: spots or I think he could succeed and like at

749
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 3: a win now mode, and you know those mainly being

750
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 3: Kansas City, Buffalo, Yeah, somewhere along those lines, Baltimore, hopefully

751
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 3: not New England. We just don't want anyone to end

752
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 3: up in New England.

753
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: Well, let's spend you know, we're talking mostly about veterans here,

754
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: well really entirely about veterans and New England's it's a

755
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: hard reboot in New England. So it just doesn't feel

756
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: like that's a landing spot for very many of these guys.

757
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: Some of the running backs we did like in New England,

758
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: but not the receivers. Two years ago, Mark Heath Brown

759
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: demanded to be let out, demanded to be traded away

760
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: from Baltimore because he wanted to go to an offense

761
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: that could show off his skills for exactly this moment,

762
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: so we could get through his fifth year rookie deal

763
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: and he could go hit free agency and be really

764
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: widely paid. But he ends up in Arizona. Kyler Murray's

765
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: not even his quarterback for a lot of it. He

766
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: gets hurt a bunch, and now he enters free agency

767
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: this year as kind of an afterthought in it with

768
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: a lot of good receivers in free agency. What do

769
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: you think of Markquise Brown and what level of interest

770
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: he's going to have.

771
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, his stocks certainly not as high as it was

772
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. You know that essentially gambling

773
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 3: on himself. It paid off initially if he recalled to

774
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 3: start last year, he was healthy. Kyler Murray was healthy.

775
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: Brother yourself weeks uh pre ac, yeah, Todd Kyler, I

776
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: mean two years.

777
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 3: Ago, yeah, twenty twenty two. Yeah, yeah, Brown was the

778
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: top ten wide receiver. Then he got hurt. He like

779
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 3: broke his ankle, and uh, then Murray got hurt later

780
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 3: that year. That's when Murray tore his ACL so and

781
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: then going into last year, Murray didn't start the season

782
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 3: so that he didn't get a lot of time with

783
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray. Essentially he did thrive when when they were

784
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 3: playing together, primarily in twenty twenty two. So long story short,

785
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 3: kind of a disaster these last two years.

786
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 2: Uh.

787
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 3: In Arizona. Brown turns twenty seven in June. So he's

788
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 3: he's not old by any means, but he's not your

789
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 3: your your alpha wide receiver, your wide receiver, one guy.

790
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 3: I'd like to see him if he stays in Arizona, fine,

791
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 3: but I think he would fare better where he's you know,

792
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 3: a Robin to someone's batman, where he's alongside a Garrett

793
00:41:54,680 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: Wilson on the Jets or alongside Stefan Diggs and Buffet.

794
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 3: So I will be intrigued to where he lands. He's

795
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 3: not a player wrong, and to love him Wherever he lands.

796
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 3: Landing spot will be pivotal on where I'm looking to

797
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 3: draft or if I'm even willing to draft Markue's Hollywood

798
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 3: Brown next year.

799
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's got to be just the right spot.

800
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: But I do believe there's some real, sneaky upside of

801
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: Marquis Brown if he can hit the if he can

802
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: hit it just right, with a strong armed quarterback who

803
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: can utilize his downfield speed in an offense that is

804
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: pass first, and Marquis Brown stays healthy. I mean, if

805
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,439
Speaker 1: you can get all that to come together, this would

806
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: be pretty interesting for Marquis Brown. But I need all

807
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: that to happen. But if it did, I could see

808
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: where he could be just an every week wide receiver

809
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 1: two for your fantasy team. But any of those things

810
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: falter and you're back into week to week head scratch

811
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: mode on Marquis Brown.

812
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, one team I want to throw out there.

813
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 3: They'll be intriguing for Brown and most of the wide

814
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 3: receivers we mentioned. We didn't mention this is a landing

815
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 3: spot as too. I mean they got Drake London, yeah,

816
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 3: and well of course they have Kyle Pitts at wide

817
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: receiver as well, but I won't go there. But Atlanta

818
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 3: intriguing spot for a lot of these wide receivers that

819
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 3: we failed.

820
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: To mention it is they need to figure out their

821
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,959
Speaker 1: quarterback position first. But you know, put Kirk cousins there,

822
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: and that's exactly the scenario I'm talking about. Strong armed quarterback,

823
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: reliable who can get the we know, can send lasers

824
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: downfield to his receivers. That would be a great spot

825
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 1: for Marquis Brown. All right, let's go to the tight

826
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: end position. We've got a couple of a couple of

827
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: tight ends semi notable. I'll do Dalton Schultz. Last offseason,

828
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: Schultz was another guy who bet on himself. Free agency

829
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: came along, he didn't find the long term contract a

830
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: lot of us thought he might, and instead took a

831
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: one year deal with Houston, and productivity was basically unchanged

832
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: from what he had in Dallas, and it's really not

833
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: that compelling, almost identical numbers in targets, receptions, yards, and

834
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: touchdowns to the previous year. And at the end of

835
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: the year, troublingly for Dalton elt he started losing snaps

836
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: to Brevan Jordan, which I think might have been an

837
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 1: indicator that Houston is not going to resign Dalton Schultz.

838
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if they do. But there are some

839
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: decent landing spots there where Dalton Schultz could earn starters minutes.

840
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: Brian Denver needs a tight end. The Jets need a

841
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: tight end. Chargers need a tight end, especially with Gerald

842
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: Everett heading to free agency. Seattle no offense who we're

843
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: going to talk about in a minute is it may

844
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: not be there. And I think Miami's really interesting. You know,

845
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: Miami desperately needs some tight end help. But you've got Hill,

846
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: you got Waddle, You've got several good receiving backs, and

847
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: Schultz I think would be like a fourth and fifth

848
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: option most weeks, and from a fantasy standpoint, would be

849
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: very hard to sort of figure out what to expect

850
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: for Schltz in Miami, but they certainly have tight end

851
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: need there.

852
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Miami, and you're the top of my list for

853
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 3: tight end needy teams. You feel to mention my favorite

854
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 3: who I believe currently don't have any tight ends on

855
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 3: roster and not the Cincinnati Bengals. If we could just

856
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 3: get an elite pass catching option in Cincinnati for once,

857
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 3: let's see what happens.

858
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: I thought Tanner Hudson had showed some real moments and

859
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: I wonder if they if Now. I don't think Tanner

860
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: Hudson it's not a free agent, is he. I don't

861
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: think he.

862
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 3: Maybe not a rook I thought I read somewhere that

863
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 3: I didn't really dig too deep, but that they basically

864
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: have no one on roster.

865
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: I could you know what you could be right? You know,

866
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: I just pulled up.

867
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 3: I'm saying they won't resign Hudson or anything like that.

868
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: By the way, what a bust erv Smith was for

869
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: both my Minnesota and then Cincinnati gave him a legit

870
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, gave him a legit contract. Yeah, Tanner Hudson

871
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: very quiet, twenty nine years old start, he's been with

872
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: UH seven teams. Now, yeah, you're right, Cincinnati is absolutely

873
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: in play here. That's a great call, Brian.

874
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 3: And back to the Schultz really quick. It didn't bode

875
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 3: well for him that as soon as he leaves Dallas,

876
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 3: Jake Ferguson steps in and just looks like the prime

877
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 3: Dulphen Schultz, if not better adult Schultz. So he's a

878
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 3: sort of a system tight end, let's put it that way.

879
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 3: I'm honestly, if I'm any team looking for a tight end,

880
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 3: especially the Bengals. To say Bengals, I'm more excited about

881
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 3: Noah Fense. To be honest, I know he's he's been

882
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 3: somewhat of a disappointment, but no, not somewhat.

883
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: I think a total disappointment. He's he's the rare Iowa

884
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: tight end that has underproduced at the at the NFL level.

885
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 3: He has, but he's still wasn't an elite prospect. He's

886
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 3: twenty six. That's kind of around the average breakout range

887
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 3: for a tight end. Very rarely do tight ends breakout

888
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 3: incredibly early, like Sam Laporta, per se TJ. Hockinson, who

889
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 3: is his teammate. But you know Fans was drafted by

890
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 3: the Broncos and either way, oh yeah, first round talent.

891
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 3: His RAZ score Relative Athletic Scorer, which you know it's

892
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 3: very telling of an athlete's athletic profile, especially a football player,

893
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 3: was extremely high coming out of the draft. So he

894
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 3: was a blue chip prospect. Drafted by Denver in the

895
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 3: first round. He was included in the Russell Wilson trade Seattle,

896
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 3: so you know, Seattle absolutely fleeced Denver in that deal.

897
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 3: We don't have to get into it, so I wouldn't

898
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 3: call him a throw and he was a great piece

899
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 3: to add in. But Seattle just always had this platoon

900
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 3: of tight ends and they're there. Never were a pass

901
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 3: heavy offense. So long story short, I'm very intrigued by

902
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 3: Noah Fan right now. If you're doing early best ball drafts,

903
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 3: he's essentially free. But if he lands in a spot

904
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 3: like Cincinnati or Miami or the Chargers where he can

905
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 3: get you know, true starter reps running seventy to eighty

906
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 3: percent of the routes. I'm not ready to give up

907
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 3: on a guy that was a freakish ash athlete, and

908
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 3: not like he was just an athlete. He was an

909
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 3: all around good tight end at Iowa that produces stellar

910
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 3: tight end. So I'm in on Fan. I'm tracking where

911
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 3: he goes. Rather have Fan over Shultz.

912
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not just because I feel like we've

913
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: had so many looks at Noah Fan. Right We're talking

914
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: to a lot of guy who in his five year

915
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 1: career has played eighty one games and just never showed.

916
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: I just think by now, you know if a guy's

917
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: got it or not. And I just think, I think,

918
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: no offense, just a guy, but you never know. I mean,

919
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: right landing spot is half the is half the battle,

920
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: and if he does find himself in the right spot,

921
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 1: maybe he could have You could certainly be worth the ADP.

922
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: Right now I gotta imagine. You know, you mentioned Noah

923
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: draft going on. You know, no a fan going undrafted,

924
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: so you know, for what you'd have to pay to

925
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: get him, maybe there's a dice roll to be had there.

926
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: Now. I know we're running long on this podcast, but

927
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 3: I'm having fun, and you know I love talking about

928
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 3: tight ends. Let me just stay in this lane really quick,

929
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 3: because I was thinking about adding the Vikings to this list,

930
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 3: you know, to the list of landing spots or some

931
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 3: of these tight ends, because they're not gonna have TJ.

932
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 3: Howkinson until the midway point at best. Right there's a

933
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 3: chance Hockinson doesn't even play next year, and the starting

934
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 3: tight end for Minnesota is a It's an interesting spot,

935
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 3: to say the least when it comes to fantasy football.

936
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 3: So for those doing their early drafts right now, what

937
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 3: I'm getting had to ask you, true insider, Josh Oliver,

938
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 3: could he be the guy?

939
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: No, Josh Oliver is not. He's just not a receiving

940
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: back but a receiving tight end. But they gave him

941
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: a giant contract. So the Vikings have as much money

942
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: tied up in tight ends as any team in the league.

943
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: I want to say so I don't if Noahfan is

944
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: dirt cheap. Yeah, he could start the season as the

945
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: Vikings as the Vikings starting tight end, but it would

946
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: have to be that there's just no market for no

947
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: Event for the Vikings to put yet more money into

948
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: that spot. Otherwise, I don't. I can't believe that that

949
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: would that would end up being something that the Vikings

950
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: would end up would end up looking at. I'm pulling

951
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 1: up that the the Vikings have the have the second

952
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: highest paid tight end in TJ. Hockinson and the eyeballing

953
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: this about the fifteenth highest paid tight end in Josh Oliver.

954
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 1: So I just I can't. I can't see him pouring

955
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: more money into that position right now.

956
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 3: Maybe a more reasonable option for the Vikings that would

957
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 3: be interesting to be a Gerald Everett. We're not going

958
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 3: to get too deep into, but he could be a

959
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 3: cheaper guy to come in and certainly make an impact

960
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 3: Week one in that offense.

961
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: So, by the way, Donald k for himself over the

962
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: years he has made No Fan has made career earnings

963
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: of dude, dude, dude, Looking right now, you want to

964
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: guess career earnings for no Offen at age twenty seven, Well.

965
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 3: First round pick, so he's on his Wow, so he's

966
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 3: on his second condent. I don't know.

967
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 2: I'ld say.

968
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 3: Twenty eight million.

969
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: You're not far off. He's already made nineteen. His total

970
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: guarantees though, IS puts him up at twenty five, so

971
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Career earning says nineteen

972
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: total guarantees twenty five million.

973
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 3: Jeez.

974
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: Not bad for a guy who's been a middling producer

975
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: so far.

976
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 3: Not a dead cat yet, No, I don't think, so

977
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 3: give me one more chance. Yeah, I want to. I

978
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 3: want him to get a nice soft landing spot, and

979
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 3: I'm I'm very intrigued by fantom.

980
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, everybody. When we talk next, we will.

981
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: I believe we'll be talking rookies next week with Thorn Eiserman.

982
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: That'll be super fun. Brian, great job. Thanks for all

983
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: your help today. Thanks getting all the way to the

984
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 1: end of our longest offseason pod by a mile, and

985
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 1: we'll talk to you next week. Everybody, Bye bye. Fantasy

986
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,440
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00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:41,480
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