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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, here we be on a Tuesday, Chris Brown

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Speaker 2: Steve tasked with you. Welcome to One Bill's Live. Thanks

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Speaker 2: for making us part of your day as we're here

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Speaker 2: with you until three this afternoon. And I think we've

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Speaker 2: effectively flipped the calendar. We are moving and transitioning from

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Speaker 2: free agency to the draft. We are under a month away,

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Speaker 2: and I totally forgot about this draft in green Bay? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Is it? It is being held in green Bay this spring?

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Speaker 3: Okay, and I got it.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna just toss this out there, throw

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Speaker 2: it into the ether. Steve. I think after this stadium's up,

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Speaker 2: I think there's a good chance the Bills could be

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Speaker 2: in the mix to host a draft or Buffalo. I

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Speaker 2: should say, what do you think about that new building?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like NFL Draft twenty twenty seven,

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Speaker 2: let's go, what do you think?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, we're twenty eight how often?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 2: How far in advance?

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Speaker 3: Well, we're not gonna get We're not gonna get a

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Speaker 3: super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's but I think it's a possibility.

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Speaker 3: But we could get a draft to eat. Yeah, come on,

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Speaker 3: Green Bay's doing it for sure, for sure, right new stadium. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that absolutely, absolutely, that's on the table. So if they

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Speaker 3: want it, I mean they gotta put in four it.

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Speaker 2: I think there would be interesting. But yeah, for sure

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Speaker 2: would be interested.

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Speaker 3: Put that. Put it right out there in front of

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Speaker 3: the big fat Why would we all those statues that

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Speaker 3: we haven't seen that?

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Speaker 2: Why would you not want the biggest off season ten

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Speaker 2: pole event that the league has to be held here

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Speaker 2: for three days?

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Speaker 3: Why would you not? That's good? Yeah, I mean I'm

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Speaker 3: all for it.

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Speaker 2: Think about they don't they don't shy away from northern cities.

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Speaker 2: I mean he was in Cleveland a few years ago.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well yeah, because then perfect, well say perfect,

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Speaker 3: I say April. Perfect.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think once the new place is up,

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Speaker 2: I think the Bills are going to be firmly in

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Speaker 2: the mix. Or the Buffalo, I should say, to host

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Speaker 2: the draft, Yeah, because it's not a team per se

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Speaker 2: that hosts the draft, although the team is involved in some.

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Speaker 3: Loose Yeah, I mean it's you know, yeah, way, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's it's because of the team. But yeah, right, that'd

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Speaker 3: be kind of cool. Sure, I'm all about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because it would be particularly for the round one, because

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Speaker 3: I think starts in prime time. That'd be like a

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Speaker 3: night game. Come on, let's let's tailgate all day. Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Of course it's not it starts on a Thursday, though.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to keep anybody away in

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Speaker 2: this town. Are you kidding me? Excuse to drink all day?

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Speaker 3: An off season tailgate? Let's go to drink.

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Speaker 2: All day with football as a component.

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Speaker 3: Get the get the grill out, put it in the pickup,

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Speaker 3: let's go.

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Speaker 2: I don't care if there isn't a game.

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Speaker 3: We're rolling. Yeah, I'm all about it. Yeah, I'm that

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Speaker 3: would be awesome, fun, fun, fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the new building would be a major

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Speaker 2: allure for the league to do it here. Yes, the

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Speaker 2: fan base, I mean maybe they could. Let's let's not

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Speaker 2: dismiss the fact that Bill's Mafia is probably a top

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Speaker 2: three recognized fan base in this country as far as

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Speaker 2: the NFL is concerned.

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Speaker 3: Let's not forget either. I mean the it's open in

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Speaker 3: what a year?

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Speaker 2: A little over a year?

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Speaker 3: Yes, August, well, opening football season is August, but it's

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Speaker 3: going to be open before that. They'll have it like

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Speaker 3: a like a an exploratory event. There right, a concert

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Speaker 3: or something. The something will happen, right.

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Speaker 2: I don't just preseason game. But they've been preaching all

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Speaker 2: along football first facility, So wouldn't it make sense for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, preseason. I'm just saying. I'm just saying

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Speaker 3: you get some people in there and.

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Speaker 2: See how we'll dry run.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, That's what I'm saying. I understand, although you

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Speaker 2: I mean, when rich Stadium opened, when it was called

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'm okay with it.

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Speaker 2: I'm just seventeenth.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying we're not that far away from the

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Speaker 3: next week. You know the play and if you haven't

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Speaker 3: seen online, they posted a video online of what, you know,

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Speaker 3: kind of a sumary spectacular video. Nothing, nothing real crazy,

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Speaker 3: just kind of fly you know, you know, the drone

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Speaker 3: shots of flying around. It's pretty cool. Man place looks.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's shaping up. I mean, I know a

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Speaker 2: lot of bills fans. You know, if you have season

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Speaker 2: or every other week, twice a month. Even then, you

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Speaker 2: could recognize progress as the structure went up. Now, you know,

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Speaker 2: and you come out here. Now you're like, WHOA. I

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Speaker 2: mean we see it every day and we see progress.

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine what it's like for people coming out

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Speaker 2: here for January. Oh you know what, I got to

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Speaker 2: go run over the bills store for a birthday gift,

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Speaker 2: you know, and I haven't been out here since the

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Speaker 2: playoff game in January. WHOA, Like that's gonna be the reaction,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost it's almost fully encircled at the roof

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Speaker 3: and the whole thing. It's, uh, well, now we're getting

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Speaker 3: a chance to see the time lapse. It's it's it's

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Speaker 3: just pretty amazing. It really is. It's really amazing. And

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Speaker 3: you can see the thing from everywhere now, I mean

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's funny you mentioned that because when

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Speaker 2: on that clover leaf on the two nineteen to go

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Speaker 2: me around to face that state. You can see it

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Speaker 2: on the on ramp like in all its glory. And

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Speaker 2: then I wasn't even aware of this when we drove

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Speaker 2: to the Combine last month from the throughway going south

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Speaker 2: towards Hamburg. You can see it from the throughway like

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Speaker 2: the canopy part of the stadium, not the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: But that's how high that profile is on that building.

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Speaker 3: It's tall. It's really tall. It's got yeah, it's yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's taking shape. It's taking shape. We can get a

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Speaker 3: draft there. Yeah, let's host the let's rand less. You

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Speaker 3: come up, Let's make it up, put it out there.

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Speaker 3: This starts unpounded the table. Let's get a draft here

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Speaker 3: in Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good with it.

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Speaker 3: All we need is one of those seventeen inch april

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Speaker 3: snow showers.

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Speaker 2: They had to put a damper on the all that thing.

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Speaker 3: That'd be great.

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Speaker 2: There is a bills related note to relay to people.

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Speaker 2: As we told you last week, there were reports that

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Speaker 2: free agent defensive tackle LeKi Fotu was reportedly making a

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Speaker 2: free agent visit to the Bills. He wound up actually

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Speaker 2: signing with the Las Vegas Raiders yesterday. So the free

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Speaker 2: agent defensive tackle who played last season for the Jets

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Speaker 2: is off the market. He is now a Las Vegas Raider.

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Speaker 2: So that happened, as the Bills will, I think, continue

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Speaker 2: to mind free agency on a much lower tier to

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Speaker 2: believe they have left at this juncture. That's kind of

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Speaker 2: where the free agency has gone for the Bills and

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Speaker 2: probably for a lot of other teams. Quite frankly, many

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Speaker 2: dollars to this point. So with that in mind, let's

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Speaker 2: go around the NFL, which is presented by Kalida Healthy,

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Speaker 2: official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills, and I found

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Speaker 2: this to be fascinating. Tom Brady shared his thoughts not

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Speaker 2: only on free agency as a minority owner of the Raiders,

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Speaker 2: but he also shed some light on what led to

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Speaker 2: his split from Bill Belichick in twenty twenty when he

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Speaker 2: ultimately decided to let his contract lapse and sign with

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Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay Bucks. And essentially he said it was

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Speaker 2: some kind of split or one of us reassessing our priorities,

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Speaker 2: talking about himself and Bill Belichick, and then he ultimately

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Speaker 2: decided he'd be better off with the bucks. He said,

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Speaker 2: for me, all I did over those few days in

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Speaker 2: March was assess and reassess my priorities. Now, this is

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Speaker 2: what's fascinating to me. You have somebody who's like the

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Speaker 2: who have ever played football, seven World championships, And he said,

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Speaker 2: puts his priority list together. So here's what he did.

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Speaker 2: twenty things, and then I ranked those twenty things on

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Speaker 3: Three being most important being least.

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Speaker 2: Least important among the twenty priorities. So he's actually taking

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Speaker 2: at the receiver position. The same was true for the

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Speaker 2: head coach. That was a three. In importance for me,

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Speaker 2: Tampa scored a three with Bruce Arians. Game day Weather

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Speaker 2: was a two. Practice Weather was a three. Financial compensation

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Speaker 2: was on the list, but it wasn't first. It probably

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Speaker 3: Know, he make it more endorsements for six, yes, exactly.

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Speaker 2: But I found it fascinating just to see what his

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Speaker 2: for determining just where to play, can you imagine his

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Speaker 2: Was really cool to crawl into Tom Brady's head to

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Speaker 3: It wasn't I mean, it was an analytical approach to it,

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Speaker 3: no question about it. Much more analytical then you know,

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Speaker 3: then most of us get I mean.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's reinventing the wheel here. This has

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Speaker 2: been thought of before. Yeah, we had no prior knowledge

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Speaker 3: I think it's interesting too, because you know, when you're

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Speaker 3: when you're playing football and I'm I've said this a ton,

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Speaker 3: you you got to be all in. But when he

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Speaker 3: and for him to take his his preferences certainly are

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Speaker 3: I don't just want to play in good weather. It's important,

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Speaker 3: worse than Rasoul.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 2: And then finally, under Armour and the NFL today announced

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Speaker 2: a long term partnership under which under Armour will become

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Speaker 2: an official footwear and glove partner of the NFL. This

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Speaker 2: agreement affirms both brand's commitments to innovation in athletic performance,

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Speaker 2: fan engagement, and youth development. We should point out it

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Speaker 2: is a non exclusive deal. When I first heard about this,

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Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, I guess we're gonna be wearing

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Speaker 2: under Armour sneakers a training camp this summer. But it

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Speaker 2: is a non exclusive deal, so that mandate will probably

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Speaker 2: not go out.

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Speaker 3: You know why it's non exclusive because if it was exclusive,

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Speaker 3: the deal would start with a B, not an Well,

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Speaker 3: right they would.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Nike would have something to say about that too.

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Speaker 3: That's why, Yeah, you'd have to outbid Nike. That That's

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Speaker 3: the reason it's non exclusive. You gotta you gotta puke

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Speaker 3: up a lot, You gotta puke up a lot of

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Speaker 3: money to get an exclusive deal with the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not saying under Armour doesn't have it in them.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, why would you because guys like these

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Speaker 3: other guys, all these guys, they all got their exclusive

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Speaker 3: deal on their own. Anyway. Why get exclusive when you're

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Speaker 3: not exclusive? Josh's gonna be wearing what he wears, Lamar

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Speaker 3: is wearing what he wears. Mahome's wearing what he wears.

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Speaker 3: They're not part of your deal, right, Who wants an

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Speaker 3: exclusive deal when you can't be exclusive anyway? Even if

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Speaker 3: you pay for exclusive, I'll bet you they didn't get

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Speaker 3: it cheap anyway, Yeah right, who knows that?

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Speaker 2: A hard and we know that. Yeah, they've got the.

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Speaker 3: They got the hammer Man. You it's unbelievable in the NFL.

466
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Speaker 3: Is the eight hundred pound gorilla. They got people paying

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Speaker 3: for a long term contract for non exclusivity. That's amazing.

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Speaker 2: So that's around the NFL topic of discussion for you

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Speaker 2: today as we shift gears to the draft. What is

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Speaker 2: your reason for the Bills to trade up in Round one?

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Speaker 2: We all know they currently hold the thirtieth pick in

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Speaker 2: round one, third from the bottom. You tell us what

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Speaker 2: is your reason for the Bills to trade up in

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Speaker 2: round one? Eight oh three zero five point fifty one

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Speaker 2: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty the number

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Speaker 2: to join us. We do have open lines for you.

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Speaker 2: If you don't have time to give us a call,

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Speaker 2: you can always hit us up on the tweets sheet

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Speaker 2: at one Bills Live. So let's go to the phones

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Speaker 2: and leading us off today is Tom on the west side.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for us? Tom, You're on one

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Speaker 2: Bill's Life.

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Speaker 7: Good afternoon, Jents. I've been thinking about this and I

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Speaker 7: really don't want to see the Bills move up in

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Speaker 7: the first round because no matter what, we're gonna get

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Speaker 7: a good player. So now we got two two's and

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Speaker 7: I could see him maybe moving up a little in

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Speaker 7: the second round if they see a player there that

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Speaker 7: they really cherish. But I would sit on the two twos.

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Speaker 7: I'm more interested in taking a four to five and

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Speaker 7: six and move him up into the top third round

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Speaker 7: if we can get there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I don't know the math on the numbers, but I

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Speaker 7: know a fourth, fifth and six they'll get you pretty far.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and two fours could get you further than you

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Speaker 2: even think, Tom, because it wasn't too long ago. I

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Speaker 2: want to say it was the twenty nineteen draft when

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Speaker 2: Brandon Bean had two fours and he traded both of them,

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Speaker 2: I want to say to Tennessee and the Bills moved

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Speaker 2: back into the bottom of the third round and took

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Speaker 2: Dawson Knox, So they used two fours back then. I

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Speaker 2: might actually have that here. Let me see if I've

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Speaker 2: got it at the ready.

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Speaker 3: I was looking at this today last year.

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Speaker 2: So they traded picks one twelve and one thirty one

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Speaker 2: in the twenty nineteen draft, both fourth round picks, and

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Speaker 2: they trade him to Washington and they got picked ninety

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Speaker 2: six in the one half of the third round.

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Speaker 3: One thirty one was a four to two or is

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Speaker 3: that a five?

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Speaker 2: Pretty sure it was a four, one twelve and one

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Speaker 2: thirty one in exchange for picked ninety six and they

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Speaker 2: picked Austin Knox. So they've done it before where they've

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Speaker 2: packaged a pair of fours to get back in the

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Speaker 2: third round. And We've talked to a couple of draft

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Speaker 2: gurus here through the course of the spring, and I

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Speaker 2: we even pose that question to them, you know, where

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Speaker 2: is that precipitous drop off in talent? And it really

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Speaker 2: is near the end of day two and into the

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Speaker 2: early stage of the day three, there's a there's perceived

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Speaker 2: to be a steep decline in the caliber of talent.

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Speaker 2: So if they see a prospect they like late on

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Speaker 2: Day two, it would behoove the Bills to make that

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Speaker 2: move to get up into the second half of round

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Speaker 2: three and to get a player, not unlike they did

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Speaker 2: five years ago to get to Austin Knox.

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Speaker 3: And for those of you who won, because we always

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Speaker 3: get calls like this when we put this out, these

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Speaker 3: these questions like this, because when in the draft, we

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Speaker 3: love doing it. Hey, how much it costs up there?

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Speaker 3: Last year and I wrote this down on it's been

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Speaker 3: on the whiteboard for a year. The Minnesota Vikings wanted

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Speaker 3: to trade the New England Patriots last year for the

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Speaker 3: number three pick, number three pick overall. They were after

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Speaker 3: a quarterback, says they were after QB. They offered the

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Speaker 3: New England Patriots the eleventh pick and the twenty third

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Speaker 3: pick first round.

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Speaker 2: Right, they had two first rounders last they had.

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Speaker 3: Two first rounders. They offered him. They offered him two

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Speaker 3: ones last year and a one this year, so three ones,

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Speaker 3: and then they would swap three late round picks between

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Speaker 3: the two teams, like sixes and sevens for sixes and

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Speaker 3: sevens or whatever. Yep, three ones to move up eight

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Speaker 3: seven spots in the first round. The answer was no. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the answer was no.

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Speaker 2: Well, part of the reason was the Patriots were after

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Speaker 2: the same exactly the Vikings were after, which was Drake May,

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Speaker 2: and they were sold on Drake May. So I got it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think it would have taken four or five first

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Speaker 2: rounders to get the Patriots to move out of that spot.

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Speaker 3: They want done. Yeah, three ones.

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Speaker 2: It's because a quarterback was involved. I think Steve and

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Speaker 2: I were talking about this before he came on the air.

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Speaker 2: Like the Patriots, for example, pick fourth this year, and

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Speaker 2: I don't think it would take nearly as much to

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Speaker 2: move them out of the four hole this year because

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Speaker 2: they already have their quarterback. They're not looking at quarterback

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Speaker 2: at four, so if they feel they can get something

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Speaker 2: comparable by sliding back to eight, you wouldn't have to

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Speaker 2: give up nearly as much to get up there and

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Speaker 2: do a deal with the Patriots because they're not hunting

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Speaker 2: for a quarterback this year. They have their quarterback. So

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Speaker 2: the price varies based on what the team that's sitting

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Speaker 2: in that spot is planning on drafting. So be interesting

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Speaker 2: to see if someone talks turkey with the Patriots at

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Speaker 2: four this year knowing they are not interested in a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: That's what's fascinating about this draft because the cost of

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Speaker 2: doing business can change based on a number of factors,

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Speaker 2: including what that team sitting in that spot is looking for.

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Speaker 2: We've got to take a break here, but we come back.

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Speaker 2: We will get to your phone calls. We are wide

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Speaker 2: open for phone calls here for the rest of the afternoon,

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Speaker 2: So if you're holding at ATO three oh five fifty,

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Speaker 2: we will get to you when we return. As we're

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Speaker 2: asking you, what is your reason for the Bills to

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Speaker 2: trade up in round one ATO three oh five to

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Speaker 2: fifty your phone calls next year. On One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by KLIDA Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

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Speaker 2: you're on a Tuesday edition of One Bills Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you and question we've posed to you today,

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Speaker 2: what is your reason for the Bills to trade up

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Speaker 2: in round one. You let us know what it is

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Speaker 2: at Ato three oh five fifty open lines for you there.

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Speaker 2: But back to the phones we go, and to Gary

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Speaker 2: on a sale. What do you got for his? Gary?

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Speaker 8: Hey, guys, how y'all doing good? I look at it

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Speaker 8: like I'm glad we have the draft picks to do it,

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Speaker 8: to move up or if it doesn't make sense to

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Speaker 8: be down, if there's somebody there about twenty four five, it.

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Speaker 9: Makes sense to do it.

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Speaker 8: I mean, if there's a big defensive tackle there or

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Speaker 8: safe there a corner that we was talking about yesterday,

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Speaker 8: and he's worth taking and they feel like he's back

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Speaker 8: into a player, you do it. I don't think he

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Speaker 8: has a ran a beat Doug before you take him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have seen him do it before, especially in

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Speaker 2: round one. More often than not he's gone.

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Speaker 3: Up than And the only question is what do you

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Speaker 3: got to give up to get there? You know? I mean,

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Speaker 3: what's what's the cost and is the guy going to

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Speaker 3: be worth it? And YadA YadA. He got ten picks

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Speaker 3: this year, two two's, two fours, three fives and three

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Speaker 3: sixes two sixes. So yeah, I lost my math there

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Speaker 3: for a minute. But so and I'm not really. I

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Speaker 3: guess you could throw in some next year's picks too,

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Speaker 3: if you're if the team's interested. But that's what we're

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Speaker 3: really talking about. We've had this conversation all off season.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna continue to have it. Yeah, the Bills, Brandon

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Speaker 3: Bean said it. You're never just one player away. I

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Speaker 3: would say, yeah, probably not. You're only of the players available.

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Speaker 3: None of them is that player. But if you know,

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Speaker 3: if that player's Josh Allen, Yeah, a lot of teams

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Speaker 3: are one player away. You know what I'm saying. If

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Speaker 3: the players Josh, you know, if the player's Lamar, the

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Speaker 3: players Mahomes. Yeah, there's a lot of teams that are

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Speaker 3: one player away. But there's where the gray area starts.

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Speaker 3: It starts with those guys and goes all the way

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Speaker 3: down to Billy Bag of Donuts. It's not gonna make

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Speaker 3: a difference for anybody that's the gray area. It's a

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Speaker 3: big what are you willing to give up to move

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Speaker 3: up for a guy you think might tip the scale

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Speaker 3: a hair?

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Speaker 2: And I do think at least I get the sense

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Speaker 2: from the feedback we've gotten from our callers that they're

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Speaker 2: not expecting this gigantic leap up the board from the bills,

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Speaker 2: because we haven't seen something like that since he since

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Speaker 2: Brandon Bean didn't in steps in the twenty eighteen draft.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he did that, like he made two moves in

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Speaker 3: the like.

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Speaker 2: He made one at the owner's meetings. Yeah, executed the

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Speaker 2: trap for Cordy Glenn and got to pick twenty two

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Speaker 2: and then he went from twenty two to twelve and

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Speaker 2: then twelve to seven. So yeah, it's uh. I don't

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Speaker 2: think people are expecting that kind of a move because

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Speaker 2: it's pretty costly to do that. You're probably wiping out

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Speaker 2: unless you use future picks. You're well, you probably have

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Speaker 2: to use a future pick anyway, and you'd probably wipe

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Speaker 2: out what you have left on day two, which is

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Speaker 2: a pair of twos.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: I think it's unlikely though, right, but.

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Speaker 3: Because we haven't gotten an inkling, and there probably is

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Speaker 3: a guy out there, probably a couple of guys out

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Speaker 3: there that would raise their eyebrows if they dropped within reach,

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Speaker 3: but you know they're not going to do that. But

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Speaker 3: probably not going to do that.

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Speaker 2: Like, well, to your point of not being one player

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Speaker 2: away in Brandon Bean's mind.

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Speaker 3: Right, and and we don't know, we don't know what

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Speaker 3: they think about the guys they've signed, or the guys

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Speaker 3: they're trying to sign, the guys they're waiting to sign

653
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Speaker 3: in free agency, and this draft class whatever it is.

654
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Speaker 3: You know, I was reading another article, another mock draft today,

655
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Speaker 3: and you know, Mike Tanning bombs got the bills taking

656
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Speaker 3: Amika Egbuka, a wide receiver out of Ohio State. Okay,

657
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 3: that's all listen, but you know it's not what I was.

658
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 3: It's not what I would have done.

659
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Speaker 2: You know, well, he usually does what not a lot

660
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Speaker 2: of other people.

661
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Speaker 3: That's why. That's why he's working for ESPN or wherever.

662
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Speaker 3: Probably thirty third team, I think, and I'll stick with it.

663
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Speaker 3: I'm not getting off my horse. I don't think they're

664
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Speaker 3: gonna pick thirtieth. I think they're gonna pick somewhere else

665
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Speaker 3: earlier or later.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phones and to Butcher on

667
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Speaker 2: the east side. What do you got for us?

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Speaker 6: Butcher?

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Speaker 4: First of all, gentlemen, thanks so much for taking my

670
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Speaker 4: cause and pleasure to talk to both of you. I

671
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 4: love them, SG, I love WG. It's all the fans

672
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Speaker 4: who listen. I definitely love you. I'm gonna get right

673
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Speaker 4: to my point. I got two things to say. Number

674
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Speaker 4: one is when we look at NFL Draft. Yes, this

675
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Speaker 4: is a formality of that. We have to do this

676
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Speaker 4: every year in April. We already know that the draft

677
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Speaker 4: is coming up. We have to have a draft. But

678
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Speaker 4: the key thing about the draft is talent, you know,

679
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Speaker 4: and this year's talent is not that great. You might

680
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Speaker 4: got four or five Blue Chippers out of thirty two

681
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Speaker 4: first round picks. That's worthy of it. I give it.

682
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna use hypotheticals here. Let's take us to dear Sanders.

683
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 4: Here it is you got hen in the can woard,

684
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Speaker 4: the two quarterbacks they're supposed to be this and that.

685
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Speaker 4: And here it is to Thomas Sanders might not even

686
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Speaker 4: go in the first round. I mean, they just show

687
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Speaker 4: you how to much talent is in this draft. This

688
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 4: draft is deep, insive line, defensive edge, running backs, tight ends,

689
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Speaker 4: and maybe you get you some tackles. The secondary is okay,

690
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Speaker 4: it's all right now, bars. I bring that point up

691
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Speaker 4: is when we built this football team. Let me say

692
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Speaker 4: week Brandan, they're gonna be a part of Brandon Being's regime.

693
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Speaker 4: We as fans along with the organization, decided that a

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Speaker 4: long time ago, we're gonna build through the draft and

695
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Speaker 4: build our football team. And then that's the way we're

696
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Speaker 4: going to operate, save money, be under the cap, and

697
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Speaker 4: then every now when then slurge a little bit in

698
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Speaker 4: free agency. Fine, that's what we have been doing.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: We have been winning, winning divisions and going to AFC

701
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Speaker 4: championship games, et cetera, et cetera. But now, at the

702
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Speaker 4: same time we had this year coming, we had a

703
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Speaker 4: lot of free agents. As you guys already know, we

704
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Speaker 4: could pay a couple we had to move some move

705
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Speaker 4: some stock around to get some money. I believe Buffalo

706
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Speaker 4: in the thirtieth selection based off the weakness of this draft.

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Speaker 4: If you traded back last year to get a COVID

708
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Speaker 4: in the second round, I will move back because the

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Speaker 4: picks that you have fourth and fifth and the sixth

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Speaker 4: and the second, it's really what the quality of this

711
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Speaker 4: talent is. You might get some starters out of here,

712
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Speaker 4: but it's no future all post. But let me let

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Speaker 4: me rephrase that, because I can never speak on anyone

714
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Speaker 4: who's trying to feed their family and the hunger and

715
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Speaker 4: desires they have inside of them if they get an

716
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Speaker 4: opportunity what they can be. But so I'm gonna say,

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Speaker 4: I can't say it won't be no Hall of famers

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Speaker 4: out of here. But based off the authors of all

719
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Speaker 4: the people who write draft magazines, just like you said,

720
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Speaker 4: the guys who were the espns, ETCeteras, I call those

721
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Speaker 4: the authors, these guys are stating that this talented draft

722
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Speaker 4: is not that good. So me and I thank you

723
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Speaker 4: so much saying my call is that it was me

724
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Speaker 4: if I was bringing me, and I'll stick to it.

725
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Speaker 4: I'll go ahead and get some rookies in here. You

726
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 4: already got young teachers, and I'll start the rookies right

727
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 4: away and build up that defensive line and build up

728
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 4: the offensive line. I love you guys so much. Thanks.

729
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's something to be said, Steve,

730
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Speaker 2: for the fact that we saw we definitely saw a

731
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Speaker 2: youth movement last year with this roster. You know, they

732
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Speaker 2: went ten picks in the draft young talent on influx.

733
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Speaker 2: They had to because they were biting the bullet on

734
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Speaker 2: the cap, you know, with the digs trade among other things.

735
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: And they're tight on the cap again this year, and

736
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: they have holes to fill. So that might be a

737
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Speaker 2: reason to just stay where you're at, or even slide

738
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Speaker 2: back a couple of spots. The bill slide from thirty

739
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Speaker 2: to thirty three, that's a difference of forty points. That's

740
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Speaker 2: a fourth round pick. You add a four just by

741
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Speaker 2: sliding back three spots to the top of round two,

742
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Speaker 2: similar to what they did last year. Do you want

743
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Speaker 2: to do that? Maybe not? But moving up means you're

744
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Speaker 2: probably gonna have less draft capital to work with to

745
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Speaker 2: fill out your roster. How many does Brandon Bean and

746
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott feel comfortable leaving the draft with? Do we

747
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 2: have to have at least seven new players that represent

748
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: cheap labor? Maybe they feel they need eight and that

749
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Speaker 2: could preclude them from making a move up the board

750
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Speaker 2: knowing it's gonna cost them draft capital to do it.

751
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Speaker 3: He makes a good point though, that this draft is

752
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 3: just just I mean, I'm I'm exaggerating to make the point.

753
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 3: He's a bad draft. Not very many good.

754
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 2: Plays plus talent not a plus.

755
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Speaker 3: So I get that. So you can move back and

756
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: get the same guys or same level of talent there's

757
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 3: some and get more of it and take a bigger

758
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 3: swing or or horse cast a wider net. I guess

759
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 3: is a better way to put it. But yeah, so

760
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Speaker 3: I'll listen to that. Yeah, they have done extremely well

761
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: in the mid to late rounds. We've talked about it

762
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Speaker 3: a lot. In fact, you know, drafting thirtieth or in

763
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 3: the twenties anyway, you know has been just okay for

764
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 3: the Bills. Right, So I get it. There's a lot

765
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 3: of ways to attack it. I'm with Butch. I don't

766
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 3: think they'll draft it thirtieth. If they draft, if they

767
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 3: trade up, it's for a guy that can they they

768
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Speaker 3: believe can make a difference, and I'll trust him with it.

769
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Speaker 3: If it can't, Hey, move back. I'm I know everybody's

770
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: a little bit. I don't know well down. I guess

771
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 3: on Keon Coleman, the pick last year where they moved

772
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 3: down twice and got him patient, I'm not bailing on Keyon.

773
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Speaker 3: The guy's really gifted. He's he's a big physical kids

774
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 3: and he's a loose athlete. He's smart, and he's gonna

775
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 3: get better. Guys play their best here. I'm I'm fully

776
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 3: I'm a big believer in that. So yeah, I'm I'm

777
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 3: neither here nor there. I think the only way you

778
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 3: move up in this draft, and I guess we should,

779
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: you know, talk about what you and I think about

780
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 3: moving up and what it'll take. If if there's a

781
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 3: a game wrecker, a defensive game wrecker that drops that far, yeah,

782
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 3: try and go get him if you can. That would

783
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 3: really help this club. And you'll, you know, nobody if

784
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 3: you trade up, and we've said it, we said it

785
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 3: last year. I remember saying it, if you trade up

786
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,479
Speaker 3: and get the right guy, nobody cares what it cost.

787
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 3: He's got to make sure he's the right guy.

788
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go back to the phones and to Dave

789
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: in Buffalo.

790
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 10: What's up, Dave, Hi, Eric, thanks for taking my call.

791
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 10: I think the main reason why you might want to

792
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 10: trade is something Steve has said that actually is going

793
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 10: to be tough to make this roster this year. And

794
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 10: given that we have ten draft picks, if they don't

795
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 10: make the roster, they're pretty meanless. So I only to

796
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 10: trade up a large part of our draft to move

797
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 10: way up in the draft to get players that help us.

798
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 10: Right now, you get better players when you draft higher up,

799
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 10: so you get so it makes sense to do it.

800
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 10: What I'm really interested in from a fancy perspective would

801
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 10: be to get Travis Hunter, and I trade a whole

802
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 10: bunch of stuff to you that isn't meaningful to me

803
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 10: to get a player who then gives McDermott the flexibility

804
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 10: to do a lot of different things.

805
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 3: Right, Yet that I told you, I made it clear,

806
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: or try to make it clear, what it took and

807
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 3: what was turned down at the number three spot. So

808
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 3: if you get Travis Hunter, that's what you're talking about,

809
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 3: you're inside the top three.

810
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 2: You got to get up to pick four at the

811
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: least maybe, And is New England doing a deal with

812
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 2: a division rival, no.

813
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 3: Right, So you got to get up inside the top

814
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 3: five at least. And last year I told you, particularly

815
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 3: when those top teams are sold on a guy anyway,

816
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 3: they're not giving up that pick. So you got to

817
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 3: really go high. I don't know that you could get,

818
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 3: Seriously speaking, I don't know that you could get even

819
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 3: with all ten picks in this draft, inside the top

820
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 3: maybe even the top ten, maybe the top ten. If

821
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 3: you gave a team you're one and all of the

822
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 3: picks you have the all ten picks. I don't know

823
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 3: that you could get from thirty to seven. Yeah, I

824
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 3: don't think you could do it.

825
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: You could get from thirty to eighteen by just giving

826
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: up your pick at sixty two, your second pick round two,

827
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 2: you give up thirty and sixty two. You can get

828
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: to eighteen with.

829
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Speaker 3: The on the value chart, Yes, on the value chart,

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00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 3: you could well.

831
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Speaker 2: Seattle's not looking for a quarterback. They got Darnold's.

832
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 3: Right, But the point is who were we gonna get? Yeah,

833
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 3: I mean what.

834
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying this. You see someone sliding that you

835
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 2: cover it, and you think they're better than pick eighteen,

836
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 2: and you think the value is ridonculous, right, you're making

837
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: them pick eighteen.

838
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 3: Pick eighteen is right before the wild card teams start picking.

839
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Speaker 2: And we're up against the break, so we don't have

840
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 2: time to address it here, but we will on the

841
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: other side as we continue to take your phone calls.

842
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 2: Team in South Carolina, Ryan and Buffalo Hank Tight you'll

843
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 2: be leading us off in the next segment. But we

844
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: also should discuss this. Sean McDermott made no uncertain terms

845
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: about it in his season ending press conference when he said,

846
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 2: you need two to three elite players on either side

847
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 2: of the ball. They've got two on offense. Do they

848
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 2: have two on a defense. I'm not so sure, so

849
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 2: is that them get one of those types of players,

850
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 2: because if you want that, probably trading up there too.

851
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: More coming up next here One Bills Live. Stay with

852
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: us and head right back to the phones here on

853
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Speaker 2: this Tuesday edition to One Bills Live, as we are

854
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 2: asking you what is your reason for the Bills to

855
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: move up in round one of this Springs draft? To

856
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: Tim in South Carolina, we go, what's up? Tim?

857
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 11: Hey, guys, thanks for having me on. I just wanted

858
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 11: to say that I agree with Steve.

859
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 12: I called about two weeks.

860
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Speaker 11: Ago and I said, I think the Vikings would be

861
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 11: a good spot to trade up to. Now, obviously we

862
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 11: know it takes two to tangle in that regard, but

863
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 11: I really like the idea of them trading up, mainly

864
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 11: because you get to kind of control your own destincy,

865
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Speaker 11: excuse me, destiny. And I'm sick and tired of the Bills.

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00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 11: I really truly think they got leap frog by Kansas

867
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 11: City and that McDuffie um draft, and I just I

868
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 11: don't want them to sit there and stand pat hope

869
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 11: a guy falls to them. Just kind of want to

870
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 11: know your thoughts on that. Also, Christian Benford just got

871
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 11: a lot more expensive with all the recent signings, and

872
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 11: I really like to see them trade up to that

873
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 11: mid twenties and go for the corner prospect that they like.

874
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 6: That's all I gotta say.

875
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 3: Thanks, yea, yeah, I like the Yeah, corner is fine,

876
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: especially if you get an elite guy, I mean guy

877
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 3: that can. They don't happen. They happened once in a while,

878
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 3: and those are the guys, remember we remember. But having

879
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 3: a rookie come in, getting drafted in the twenties, stepping

880
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 3: on the field and like crushing, it's it's a little rare.

881
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: They traded up one spot to get Elim. They traded

882
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: up one spot to make sure they got Kincaid, as

883
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 2: many people felt Dallas was going to take kin Kaid,

884
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 2: so they leap frog the Cowboys to get kink So

885
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: I guess that means they went up too small.

886
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 3: Well, they went up. Yeah, they went from twenty seven.

887
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: To twenty five to five. Yeah, so they've done it before,

888
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 2: but they've been little jumps, not bigger ones. To get

889
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 2: up to Minnesota, that's a six pick jump. You know,

890
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: it's not impossible because the difference in value is only

891
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty points, and that would essentially cost

892
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: you the equivalent of a third round pick, so you'd

893
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: have to presumably package your two fours to do that

894
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 2: and get up to twenty four, So it's not exactly

895
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: a king's ransom. Maybe there's some combination of the two

896
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 2: fives at one sixty nine and one seventy along with

897
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: your top fourth round pick at one oh nine. Maybe

898
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: could do that a four and you're two fives late

899
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: in the round and you still have a four and

900
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 2: five left over to go up six spots to twenty four.

901
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: That's doable. And yeah, you want to get you know,

902
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 2: a corner that can start for you day one. That's

903
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: worth it to me. And that's my point. The only

904
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 2: reason I can give for the Bills trade up in

905
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 2: round one is if they believe there's an elite day

906
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: one starting talent that's still sitting on the board when

907
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: we drift into the early to mid twenties, go get

908
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,479
Speaker 2: the guy. I'm totally down with that. That's the only

909
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: way I'm moving up.

910
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, if if a guy falls within reach and within

911
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 3: reason a reasonable price, and you think he's that guy,

912
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 3: yeah you gotta do it. I'm not. I'm not what

913
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 3: fan like this, like the trade last year, the worthy

914
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 3: Keon Coleman stuff. I don't care who you do business.

915
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 3: I don't care if it's a division rival, and if

916
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 3: you're trying to get better and you think you're gonna

917
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: get better, I don't care who you do business with.

918
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 3: Whether it's the Chiefs or the Patriots or whoever you're

919
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 3: building your team, you can they can do it the

920
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 3: way they want. So I'm by hook or crook, get

921
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 3: the guy you want so. But I also to know

922
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 3: we had somebody, you know, trading all those picks to

923
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 3: jump up into the top ten. Yeah, you gotta have

924
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 3: a draft class. Minnesota's got four picks.

925
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: They need volume to fill out their roster.

926
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 3: They they it's going to be really difficult for Minnesota

927
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 3: to have a difference making draft this year with just

928
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 3: four picks.

929
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 2: Let's go to Ryan in Buffalo next. What's up, Ryan?

930
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 6: Hey, guys love the show. So you guys kind of

931
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 6: blow my thunder a little bit when it comes to

932
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 6: moving up in the first round. But regardless, at the

933
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 6: end of the day, we have ten picks. That ten picks,

934
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 6: they're not all going to make the team. So what

935
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 6: Bean has to do and the Bills have to look

936
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 6: at is Day two, Day three package some of those picks,

937
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 6: and you know, when you see a talent, you got

938
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 6: to go grab them. I mean that's being said. I

939
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 6: mean we just have too many picks and they're not

940
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 6: all going to make the team, and if they do,

941
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 6: they're going to make the practice squad and they're going

942
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 6: to get poked. So go Bills.

943
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. Based on the recent history, I

944
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: will say, you know, Travis Clayton and goes on ir

945
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: their last pick in the draft, and Daikwon Hardy goes

946
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 2: to the practice squad ultimately at the end of training camp.

947
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 2: So eight of the ten made the roster last year

948
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 2: for what it's worth. So to your point, Ryan, yes,

949
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: it's probably unlikely that all ten picks would make the roster.

950
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 2: And if you're like me, you're sick of seeing other

951
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 2: teams poach Buffalo's practice squad players like they did in

952
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three when Nick Broker and Alex Austen both

953
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 2: got poached by Houston their last two picks in the

954
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 2: twenty three draft. So I get it, And yeah, you

955
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 2: can make a case to use some of that draft

956
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: capital to move up where you feel it's a strategic

957
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 2: move and you're getting a quality talent. We have to

958
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: take a break here because we're at the top of

959
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 2: the hour, but we're wide open for your phone calls.

960
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: An hour number two, Tim in Depew, Tom and Lakajuana

961
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: will lead off with you, fellas when we return an

962
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: Hour number two. Here on One Bill's Live, presented by

963
00:49:55,200 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: Colia Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio.

964
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 3: This One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

965
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 2: All right, our number two as we're talking draft with

966
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 2: you here on one Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

967
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 2: with you, and we're gonna get right back to the

968
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 2: phones because we've got people waiting patiently there. And we

969
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 2: go to Tim into Pew next. What's up, Tim, I.

970
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 13: Want to see the Bills swing for the fences. I

971
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 13: want him to trade our number one this year and

972
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 13: even next year's number one if they have to to

973
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 13: move up high and up to draft a difference maker,

974
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 13: which is that the safety from South Carolina. I want

975
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 13: to butcher his name, h But we we can't survive

976
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 13: another year of ambling, uh you know, uh uh being

977
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 13: a starting safety. We need difference makers back there, and

978
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 13: I think that this kid is big, he's fast, he's physical,

979
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 13: and he makes a difference. And that's the kind of

980
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 13: players are defense lacks right now?

981
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not You're not wrong about that.

982
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 3: Tim and names nick Emun Warri and nick Eman Warrior

983
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 3: is how you say his name and they're there. You'll

984
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 3: get different assessments that some will put Malachi Starks ahead

985
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 3: of em and warriy and some will put Emon Warrior

986
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 3: ahead of Starks. Starks was probably the probably the guy

987
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 3: before the combine. Then Emon Warri showed up who he

988
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 3: was still high. But when Emon Warri showed up and

989
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 3: hit a grand Slam bottom of the ninth to out

990
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 3: two strike home run with his combine physical testing, the

991
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,959
Speaker 3: guy's off the charts. He went. A lot of people

992
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 3: put him ahead of Starks. Yes, you're not. Two ones

993
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 3: won't get it if he goes as high as he should.

994
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: Emon Worri in top one hundred. You know you got

995
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: these draft gurus that put together the top one hundred

996
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: prospects in the draft. He usually comes in somewhere between

997
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 2: twenty five and thirty. So from an overall talent perspective,

998
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: you could see him being in the Bills range. But

999
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:50,479
Speaker 2: as we know, every team's preferences very greatly based on

1000
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 2: where they have holes on their roster or perceived holes

1001
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 2: and what they covet, which can be different across thirty

1002
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 2: two different NFL teams. It's not aut hey, who's the

1003
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: best player in the draft for thirty two teams, it's

1004
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,959
Speaker 2: who is the best fit for our team, And that's

1005
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 2: why the grades vary as much as they do. Like

1006
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 2: perfect example, Okay, Jalen Walker one of my favorite players

1007
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 2: in this draft, and not just because he's from Georgia.

1008
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 2: The guy is just because he's no, it's not, but

1009
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 2: that guy is football through and through. He is an

1010
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 2: absolute gamer. He's a leader, and he goes all out

1011
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 2: every play, whether the team is down twenty nine to

1012
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 2: nothing or up twenty nine nothing. Because I saw it,

1013
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 2: They're playing Alabama and they're in a twenty six to

1014
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 2: nothing hole and he's on the sidelines yelling at his

1015
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 2: teammates like let's go, and they came all the way

1016
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 2: back in that game before ultimately losing. But my point

1017
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: is he's a six to two hundred and forty five

1018
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 2: pound player who's probably best suited to play outside linebacker

1019
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 2: in a three to four and he may not be

1020
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: even tall enough to do that, but he's going to

1021
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 2: be valued a lot higher for teams to play three

1022
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: four defense. Then he will be for a four to

1023
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: three team, per se. So that's where the variance happens,

1024
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 2: and he's going to be ranked a lot higher on boards,

1025
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 2: presumably for three four teams like Pittsburgh, then he would

1026
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 2: be for a four to three team like Buffalo. That's

1027
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 2: where the variance comes in. And so somebody might covet

1028
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: Emon Worry because they play a lot of big nickel

1029
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 2: and he is a perfect fit to be a big

1030
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 2: nickel hybrid linebacker safety type. And so a team that

1031
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 2: plays that, like a New England for example, might be

1032
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 2: like you, that guy's a top fifteen player for US,

1033
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 2: where other teams might see him as a top twenty

1034
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 2: five player. So when you're sitting there at thirty, you're

1035
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 2: rolling the dice as to what's going to happen in

1036
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 2: front of you, because.

1037
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 3: You don't know Emon Warr is not going to drop past,

1038
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 3: you know, the mid twenties. So if you can jump

1039
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 3: up that high end at him, you can jump. And

1040
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 3: Minnesota is a great spot and We've talked about it

1041
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 3: a ton. They've only got four picks. Maybe they'd be

1042
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 3: interested in a couple of two or three later your day,

1043
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 3: three picks or one two and a three or whatever.

1044
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 3: Package him up and move up. But you're not gonna

1045
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 3: get Emon worry if you know, if he gets in

1046
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 3: the top, if he goes in the teens, even if

1047
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,439
Speaker 3: he goes inside of the top fifteen, you're not gonna

1048
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 3: get him. If he drops deeper than that, maybe you've

1049
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 3: got a shot, but you know you're looking at teams

1050
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 3: like Arizona, Cincinnati, Seattle Cincinnati. Who needs oodles of defensive help. Yeah,

1051
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 3: I mean, Emon War is not getting past them. I

1052
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 3: wouldn't think so.

1053
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 2: Bills are in that boat too, they need defensive help.

1054
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right. So we'll see. But I'm with you.

1055
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 3: I like the kuy I love the player. If he's available,

1056
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 3: if he's within striking distance, yeah, I'm all about go get.

1057
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 2: Him to Tom in Lakawana next. What's up Tom?

1058
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 12: Hey, guys, and your discussion took two of the four

1059
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 12: piladers I was talking about. I would say they got

1060
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 12: to kind of see where it's at. If any of

1061
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 12: the four either Grant Steven, Maurie Starks or whoever they rate.

1062
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 12: It's the top cornerback. They got to make sure they

1063
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 12: get one of those. They need a starter, So whatever

1064
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,919
Speaker 12: they think will be available at twenty four, I would

1065
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 12: move up to twenty four for any of them.

1066
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. I get it. And again it

1067
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 2: goes back to the conversation Steve and I were having

1068
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: late last hour, which is hearkening back to what coach

1069
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 2: McDermott said in his season ending press conference. He said,

1070
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 2: philosophically and generally speaking, you need two to three difference

1071
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 2: making players on each side of the ball. I would

1072
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 2: say Josh Allen and James Cook are that on the

1073
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball, and we'll see if somebody

1074
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: else emerges over there to be a difference maker like

1075
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 2: weekend week out key difference maker on defense, You'd be

1076
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 2: hard pressed to name one. I mean, could Russe get there.

1077
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 2: Perhaps if he starts flirting with double digit SAX seasons

1078
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 2: every year, he could move into that category. Aside from him,

1079
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 2: you know, Milano was that. I don't know if he is,

1080
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: you know, entering his age thirty one season. He's still

1081
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 2: a very good player, but I don't know if he's

1082
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: an elite difference maker at this stage in his career.

1083
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:29,959
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1084
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're gonna and if you're gonna talk

1085
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 3: about corners, you know, Travis Hunter will be off the board.

1086
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 3: He's gonna go in the top five. Will Johnson from

1087
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 3: Minute Michigan, John A. Barn from Texas.

1088
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 2: Baron's not gonna last.

1089
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chavon Revel.

1090
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 2: He might last because he's coming off an ajor knee injury.

1091
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he might be there. Benjamin Morrison from Notre Dame.

1092
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 2: Trey another guy coming off an injury.

1093
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 3: Trey amos Uh six to one Buck ninety.

1094
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: He's a guy that's been moving up boards in the

1095
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 2: old Miss corner.

1096
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 3: So you know, the Bills will know these guys a

1097
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 3: lot better than you or I do. So yeah, I'm

1098
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 3: with you. It could be Emon Worry, it could be

1099
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 3: Starks dropping into the early to mid twenties, or it

1100
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 3: could be one of these corners, a corner that they

1101
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 3: like a lot more than maybe other people do, and

1102
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 3: they just don't want to see him disappear. They'll jump

1103
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 3: up and get him because they really like him. I'm all,

1104
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 3: I'm fine, whether it's a corner or a d lineman.

1105
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 3: You know, it's easy for us to sit here because

1106
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 3: everybody under the sun has been mocking Grant. Kenneth Grant,

1107
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 3: the defensive lineman of Michigan, who's a really good player,

1108
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 3: and if he's there, we'll take him. And he's been

1109
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 3: mocked to us what twelve times in out of you know,

1110
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 3: thirty percent of the time and all the mock drafts.

1111
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 3: He's a bill I don't know that he makes it,

1112
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 3: so I don't care if it's a defense, it's a

1113
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 3: defender to me. I don't think there's an offensive player

1114
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 3: that you're going to jump up for in this draft

1115
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 3: for the Billills, even even the even the wide out

1116
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 3: from Arizona.

1117
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to Steve in Syracuse. What we got

1118
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 2: for Steve?

1119
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:16,479
Speaker 9: I uh, I'm stuck on this schedule for next year.

1120
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,919
Speaker 9: If we got the brutal schedule at home and if

1121
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 9: we don't build up our defense, we're done. I'll tell

1122
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 9: you those four games next year to open and at home,

1123
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 9: if we don't build up the defense, and not talking

1124
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 9: them mainly about the defensive line. I'd like to see

1125
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 9: him get at least two or even three defensive tackles,

1126
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 9: get an s rusher and it's in that safety from

1127
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 9: South Carolina something like that, because that's what you're going

1128
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 9: to need because any any free reasons you got, now

1129
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 9: they're one year deals anyway, So you've got to have

1130
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 9: the build up. So you get three defensive tackles, you

1131
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 9: got them for at least three years each one of them. Yeah,

1132
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 9: and then you can fill in after another other drafts

1133
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 9: later on to fill in. At least you'll get over

1134
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 9: the hump. And I think that's the thing, the thing

1135
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 9: they're doing, the three defense get in there. And that's

1136
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 9: what Bill Pollium said years ago to the most valuable player,

1137
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 9: and the defensive side of the ball is edge rusher,

1138
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 9: not a corner. Them two to get here in an a,

1139
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 9: we don't need corners. If we've got a good defensive line, heavy,

1140
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 9: they'll make the corners look like all pro because they're

1141
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 9: beginning to the quarterback. But if you have a weak

1142
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 9: defensive line, your corners better better be all pro because

1143
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 9: they're going to be busy running all over to hell.

1144
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Steve, as Steve, you're right, but I'll

1145
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 2: say this too.

1146
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 3: You're not gonna get a lightning strike pass rush in

1147
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 3: one draft. Briani and I have talked about it. It all

1148
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 3: starts up front. This Bill's organization learned in Josh's I

1149
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:52,959
Speaker 3: think second year twenty nineteen. You can't go in into

1150
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 3: the season with a bad offensive line or question marks

1151
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 3: at offensive line.

1152
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 2: They had a bad line in eighteen Josh's rookie.

1153
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 3: There you go, and they got a They had to

1154
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 3: fix it, which they did, and.

1155
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 2: They've mostly through free agency.

1156
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 3: And they've made they've made sure it stayed fixed, and

1157
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 3: then they invested in the draft, and then they invested

1158
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 3: in the draft on the defensive one. I'm I'm okay

1159
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 3: with it up. It all starts up front on both

1160
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 3: sides of the ball. Uh, we'll see.

1161
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 2: But what do you what do you think of his

1162
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 2: theory though, because he's like, he got ten picks, they're

1163
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 2: not all going to make the team. Maneuver your way

1164
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 2: to find six high end players if you can all

1165
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 2: throughout the draft. He's not even just saying round one.

1166
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 2: He's saying, all through the draft, use your draft capital.

1167
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 2: Whether you've got to move up two spots to get

1168
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 2: this player who you think could be something special, you know,

1169
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 2: even as a Day two guy, move up a couple

1170
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 2: of spots for this guy who you think could be

1171
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 2: a Khalil Shakir type find in round five in terms

1172
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: of talent that can help you do that all the

1173
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 2: way through the draft, come out with six picks instead

1174
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:54,919
Speaker 2: of ten.

1175
01:01:55,440 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 3: Or you could trade back three times multiple swings and

1176
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 3: have twelve picks and try and just get hit one

1177
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 3: out of three and all of a sudden you got

1178
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 3: four guys more swings.

1179
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,959
Speaker 2: That's the other way to look at it. Otherwise, because

1180
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 2: I mean, if his way, you're trusting what your personnel

1181
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 2: department has gathered over the last calendar year to say,

1182
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 2: that's the guy, we're gonna get him, and we're only

1183
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 2: gonna have six picks, and that's the guy in this

1184
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 2: round and we're gonna go get him. We're not gonna wait.

1185
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 3: Well, that's fine, but how many times are you gonna

1186
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 3: do that before you run out of collapse? You know,

1187
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 3: stuff to do pretty quick. And then next year you've

1188
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 3: got three picks on every pick, right, but next out

1189
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 3: of ten you have six choices, right, But next year

1190
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 3: you got three draft picks because you traded.

1191
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 2: Well, that's if you're giving up future picks.

1192
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 3: Yes, you know, so, Yeah, I'm there's a lot of way. Anytime,

1193
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 3: anytime you think there's a guy there that you know

1194
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 3: something about that nobody else does, you gotta try and

1195
01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 3: steal him.

1196
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 2: They did that with Daus Knox.

1197
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 3: You gotta try and steal them.

1198
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 2: They've done with so.

1199
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 3: Dawks. I'm yes, I don't care, Yeah, I do care.

1200
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I want right now, I want I'm like

1201
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 3: you know, I'm like Steve, I want. Defensive is right.

1202
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 2: They gotta they got to fortify the defense. And his

1203
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 2: point about the schedule is val is very valid.

1204
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 3: We talked at length about.

1205
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 2: It, like you better load up for bear on defense.

1206
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 2: With the cruise you've got coming in here this season.

1207
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 3: It looks so bad. It looks so bad from this

1208
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 3: end of it.

1209
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 2: Philadelphia, Kansas City, Baltimore, I mean, Cincinnats are all top

1210
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 2: ten offenses. You better beef up your defense.

1211
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 3: They're they're so Yeah, I'm I get it. I'm you

1212
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 3: got to. But I think it's easy. You know, yes,

1213
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 3: right now, the way it sits right going into the draft,

1214
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 3: you gotta get some big dudes up front on defense.

1215
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 3: If their edge, if they're interior, I don't get the

1216
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 3: best ones, multiple ones take give yourself some swings and

1217
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 3: get make sure they've got some traits. Right. So yeah,

1218
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 3: do all that. But when push comes to shove, and

1219
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 3: if there's a guy you're you're ready to jump on

1220
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 3: the table for I don't care what position he plays

1221
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 3: unless it's quarterback. I mean, there's nobody in there. But

1222
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 3: if you know, if it's a wide out, if it's

1223
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 3: a running back or whatever, if it's a weapon, if

1224
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 3: there's one of those guys out there, you know, jump

1225
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 3: on the table and get him. Okay, it's not what

1226
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 3: we were hoping for, but if the guy turns out

1227
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 3: to be the right guy, nobody will care. Nobody will care,

1228
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 3: So just pick the right one.

1229
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 2: Always to Mark in West senecon next what's up? Mark?

1230
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 14: Hey, guys, good afternoon, Hall are today gool he? As

1231
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 14: far as this moving up stuff and moving around in

1232
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 14: the draft, as I'm listening to all the draft knicks

1233
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 14: and everybody talk about this draft, I guess the meat

1234
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 14: of this draft goes from picks twenty to maybe eighty

1235
01:04:56,240 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 14: to one hundred somewhere in there, right and with all so,

1236
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 14: I'm thinking, why are we thinking we're going to take

1237
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 14: a first and touch either one or both of those

1238
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 14: twos to move up in a draft where the talent

1239
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 14: level at maybe twenty is no different than what it

1240
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 14: is at thirty eight forty forty one. To me that

1241
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 14: with all the needs we have, I would rather see

1242
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 14: a sit tight and take more swings at the camp,

1243
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 14: like Steve just said, with you know, multiple picks and

1244
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 14: see what we get out of the draft. The only

1245
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 14: caveat I have with that is if they're sitting at

1246
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 14: thirty and there's a safety or a corner that falls

1247
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 14: within the range where all we have to touch is

1248
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 14: our mid round picks, whatever package of four, five, and

1249
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 14: six we would have to give up to go there

1250
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 14: and get that guy. Okay, great, do that, But I pray,

1251
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 14: and I think Brandon knows it. The ball of this

1252
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 14: draft for us is our one and our two twos,

1253
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 14: and we got to come out of this draft with

1254
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 14: three guys, no spots that are potential stouts. So that's

1255
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 14: how I will get this.

1256
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 2: I would tend to agree with that mark. Their first

1257
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 2: three picks have to be guys that if they don't

1258
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 2: start Week one, are pushing to start by mid season

1259
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 2: or the back half of the schedule.

1260
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't have a Ford. You can't afford to

1261
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 3: have a Cayer Elam situation where they're healthy scratches.

1262
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 2: I mean to the point that Steve made earlier about

1263
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 2: the home schedule, Like you could argue that you need

1264
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 2: a guy that can be starting caliber at defensive tackle

1265
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 2: by mid October Halloween, and there's a very good chance

1266
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 2: you're gonna need a day one starter at corner. So

1267
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 2: that's too right there on defense, And I think you

1268
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 2: can make an argument for an edge rusher that's capable

1269
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 2: of starting by next year at the latest, because you've

1270
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 2: got Joey Bosay on a one year deal and aj

1271
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 2: Epeness in the last year of his contract, so you

1272
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 2: may need an answer in the starting lineup there for

1273
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 2: twenty six. So that's three potential starters on defense that

1274
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 2: you're definitely going to need by this time next year.

1275
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 3: Right yeah. And if that's if it's like, for instance,

1276
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 3: if the meat of the draft is twenty through eighty,

1277
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 3: the pick twentieth pick through the eightieth.

1278
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 2: Pick, it'sant to be the best value.

1279
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 3: Why don't you throw the two fives, two six, three

1280
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 3: six's and throw them together and get an extra two

1281
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 3: picks in there if you can, right, get inside the

1282
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 3: first the first three rounds and just take force force wings.

1283
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 3: And we've been talking about the two sides of that coin.

1284
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 3: If that's where the talent of this draft is, spend

1285
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 3: your ten picks, turn them into four, and get four

1286
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 3: really guys that really do have a shot at being

1287
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 3: difference makers on your team or at least contributors on

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Speaker 3: your team and solid starters. You know, I see the

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Speaker 3: wisdom in that when you look at this year's draft

1290
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Speaker 3: in a vacuum where you know, you get outside the

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01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 3: top one hundred guys in this draft, there's just nobody

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Speaker 3: that can play. I'm not saying that that they're not

1293
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 3: going to find it, but you know what I mean,

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01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 3: The talent drop off right is precipitous. And if that's

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Speaker 3: what you believe, don't pick any trade them out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think we all expect being to kind

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Speaker 2: of sit see how the board falls, and by the

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01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 2: time the boards get into like twenty twenty one, he'll

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Speaker 2: have a pretty good handle on what's left on their

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01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 2: board in terms of first round grades. And if he's

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01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 2: got three guys left and he's in love with two

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01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 2: of them, well then he's probably making a move up.

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01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 2: If he's got three guys left, and he's not over

1304
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 2: the moon. He might be looking to move back.

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01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you can get closer to that. You know,

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01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 3: the top eighty players get five swings at instead of three.

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01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if the difference between player twenty four

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01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 2: on their board and player twenty five and twenty six

1309
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 2: on their is negligible, you know, or player thirty or

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01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 2: player forty, if the difference is negligible, you can slide back,

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01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 2: probably kind of like they did last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: He said they're gonna be teams in the top of

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01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 2: round two that covet a player at the bottom of

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01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 2: round one and want to get in there for the

1316
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 2: fifty year option so they can control costs. So there

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01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,600
Speaker 2: is value in those picks at thirty, thirty one, and

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01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 2: thirty two.

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01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 3: That's right, that's where you can get a little something

1320
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 3: out of.

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01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 2: It, little cost control for an extra year.

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01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 3: What are you gonna do if you're gonna trade the

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01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 3: thirtieth pick and pass up on a guy like Kenneth.

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01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 2: Grant, Well, I don't know if they're doing that.

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01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 3: And well, I mean all the pundits say he's going

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01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 3: to be there and trade Kenneth Grant for a swing

1327
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 3: at you know, maybe getting two other guys at picks fifty, say,

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01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 3: forty and fifty two.

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01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 2: That's exactly what they did last year, and they got

1330
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 2: Keon Coleman and Dwayne Carter for sliding back. Instead of

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01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 2: just getting a receiver, they got a receiver and a

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01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 2: defensive a linement. So that's an example. Because they just

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01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 2: did that last year, could they do it again? Perhaps?

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01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 2: I just wonder because last year it was pretty clear

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01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 2: they felt they needed to approach the draft with volume

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01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,679
Speaker 2: in terms of number of picks they traded. Back finished

1337
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 2: with ten picks, used all ten picks, and eight of

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01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 2: the guys made the fifty three man roster. I don't

1339
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 2: know if you could say the same thing this year

1340
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Speaker 2: they have ten picks, are all ten making the roster

1341
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 2: after only eight made it last year? I don't know,

1342
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 2: maybe eight out of ten would make it again this year.

1343
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 2: So does that mean, hey, you know what, why are

1344
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 2: we going to draft ten? Let's draft eight? But then

1345
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:57,600
Speaker 2: to your point, you could say, well, I'd like to

1346
01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 2: take more swings, and if two wash out and don't

1347
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,679
Speaker 2: make the team, I don't care because I've swung ten times.

1348
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 2: And I have eight hits. Yeah, I'd rather bad eight

1349
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 2: for ten than hope I bat eight for eight. Does

1350
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 2: that make sense?

1351
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 3: Yeah? And here's the thing. Do you go in I

1352
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 3: don't even know the answer to this, but you got

1353
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 3: to ask the question. Do you go in with a

1354
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 3: philosophy of sand Listen, we would love to have more

1355
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:29,560
Speaker 3: fewer high picks and trade the back end of the

1356
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 3: draft up to get some like five picks in the

1357
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 3: first two and a half rounds. We'll trade our ten

1358
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 3: picks to get five picks up in the upper two

1359
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 3: and a half rounds.

1360
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 2: Or do you want it to day off on day

1361
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 2: three right?

1362
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 3: Or do you want to trade back and get eleven

1363
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 3: or twelve picks whenever they fall, with half of them

1364
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 3: or two thirds of them coming in the last two

1365
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 3: days of the draft.

1366
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say probably not on the ladder because

1367
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 2: there is I think the law of diminishing returns does

1368
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 2: show up in the eventually, and this general consensus is

1369
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 2: it shows up and round.

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Speaker 3: Four offensively for this year, offensively, this team is in

1371
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 3: a much different place than it was twelve months ago.

1372
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 3: At this time, we thought, you know that, you know,

1373
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 3: the wide receiver room was decimated, you know, and the

1374
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 3: defensive front all the defense was kind of in the

1375
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 3: same spot that it is now. You know, Poorter and

1376
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 3: Hyde were gone, Todavius was gone, All those guys were gone.

1377
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 3: So it's kind of in the same spot that it

1378
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 3: was last year, a little bit better offensively roster wise

1379
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 3: going into this draft. So does that change how you

1380
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 3: the outlook of this draft given the uniqueness of the

1381
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 3: talent pool and where it falls on the scale of

1382
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:47,759
Speaker 3: you know, evaluation. You know, I you got to find

1383
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 3: a way to get value for what you got going

1384
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 3: in here. And I'll say this, we rarely see it,

1385
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 3: but I would if I'm bean And we don't know

1386
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 3: this how they feel about their players on the roster now,

1387
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,640
Speaker 3: but man, those guys are on the block too. You know,

1388
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 3: if you've got a player that is going to contribute

1389
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 3: or has it been a contributor, has been a guy

1390
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 3: you like and you know, like you got like Kyle Vandermark,

1391
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 3: good player, had some quality reps started a game for

1392
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:17,799
Speaker 3: the Bills when Spencer Brown sat down. A good player,

1393
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 3: but he doesn't play, you know, you know, what's he

1394
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:23,719
Speaker 3: worth to a team?

1395
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1396
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 3: He could be a starting right tackle for like, what

1397
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 3: twenty teams.

1398
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 2: At least a dozen't right?

1399
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 3: So that's that's something. You know what what can you

1400
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:41,600
Speaker 3: parlay that into in addition to a fifth right for

1401
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 3: the right team? Then you do move up. Then you

1402
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 3: get up. Then you get Kenneth Grant and you get

1403
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 3: nick Emon worry right. Then people will be like all right.

1404
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 2: Then they're like, oh, let's bega right.

1405
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 3: People be doing cartwheels. We'll see.

1406
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 2: We have to step aside. I take a break here,

1407
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 2: but when we come back more of your phone calls.

1408
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 2: We'll lead off with Tom on a cell and others

1409
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 2: holding at eight oh three oh five fifty. When we

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Speaker 2: return here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colide Health,

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01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, back here on One

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01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 2: Bill's Live. You're going to get right back to the

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01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 2: phones as we are asking you what would be your

1414
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 2: reason for the Bills to trade up from their pick

1415
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 2: at thirty in this springs draft at three five fife

1416
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 2: eight five fifty two five fifty. As promised, we lead

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01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 2: off with Tom on a cell. What do you got

1418
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 2: for us? Tom?

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01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 15: Hey, how's it going?

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01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 7: Guys?

1421
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 15: I really uh would I'd like to first off the

1422
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 15: right off the top year after year. Okay, at the

1423
01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:01,480
Speaker 15: end of every year, I've heard, if not Bean and McDermott,

1424
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 15: but at least Sean McDermott. They say, and I'm going

1425
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 15: all the way back to start too late. The defensive

1426
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:12,599
Speaker 15: interior line or our pass rush whatever, that D line

1427
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 15: is the most important part heart and soulver defense. But

1428
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 15: what I'm seeing is they got at Oliver in a

1429
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 15: patch job and they keep doing that year after year.

1430
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 15: So they say it's important, but they really don't act

1431
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 15: like it. And my second thing is the Bucks and

1432
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 15: the Eagles have shown us. They have shown the world

1433
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 15: this is how you beat the Kansas City Chiefs in

1434
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 15: big games. They have demonstrated that. So why has the

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01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 15: Bills not put their minds, their passions and strategies to

1436
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 15: form to putting the roster together with the better defensive line,

1437
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 15: you know? And it just drives me crazy. It's like

1438
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 15: this goes back away. They've had their chances. I know,

1439
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 15: you can't put a defensive line together in one draft,

1440
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,679
Speaker 15: but they should have been doing this. And Josh Allen's

1441
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 15: time is running out, so I want to see them win.

1442
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 15: I would like to see my Buffalo Bills win and

1443
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 15: they've been shown how to do it. So why what're

1444
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 15: we gonna do? Have all our corners and safeties all

1445
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 15: ro like that. One color said, get the line right?

1446
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 7: Please?

1447
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 2: All right? Tom okay an impassionate phone caller, And what

1448
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 2: do you say about Ed?

1449
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 3: At the beginning he said they got they got Ed.

1450
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 2: I think he feels like he's playing out a position.

1451
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:30,600
Speaker 2: I don't know where else you'd put him, but he

1452
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 2: is undersized for the position. But he's not there to

1453
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 2: hold up against the run. He's there to penetrate against

1454
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 2: the pass from the inside. All that being said, I

1455
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 2: think this is the best opportunity, based on the strength

1456
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,759
Speaker 2: of the draft class, for the Bills to truly invest

1457
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 2: in their defensive line like they never have before. With

1458
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 2: the draft. It's a deep defensive tackle class. You can

1459
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 2: get one early. You can get a guy that can

1460
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 2: help you late. There's enough edge rush talent to help

1461
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:02,600
Speaker 2: yourself there as well if you want to do that.

1462
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:07,480
Speaker 2: And it's a good cornerback class, so you can probably

1463
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 2: wait and get a capable corner somewhere on Day two,

1464
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 2: not necessarily day one, but as we all know the

1465
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:18,600
Speaker 2: value of what's going to be there at thirty is

1466
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 2: the great unknown, and that's often what steers a general manager,

1467
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 2: whether it's Brandon Bean or anybody else, in a certain

1468
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:28,919
Speaker 2: positional direction. They go in the direction where the value

1469
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 2: is best when it's their turn to pick. It's great

1470
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 2: to say, hey, we got to pick defensive linemen, but

1471
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 2: if the cupboards bear by the time you're on the clock,

1472
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 2: you have to shift your thinking because, as Steve says

1473
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 2: all the time, need positional need is a horrible evaluator,

1474
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 2: and if you let it dictate your evaluation, you're going

1475
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:52,719
Speaker 2: to make a mistake in the draft.

1476
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's not like they haven't been taking swings

1477
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 3: at it. You can. They've got they like I said,

1478
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 3: we talk about all time, they've gotten really good players.

1479
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 3: They haven't gotten a gamer. They haven't found an Aaron

1480
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 3: Donald or a Bruce Smith, or a generational or Miles

1481
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:10,639
Speaker 3: Garrett or one of those generational guys. Mostly because they're

1482
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 3: good enough at what they do never to be so

1483
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 3: bad as to get an Abdual Carter in this draft.

1484
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 3: You can't get them. That's why everybody was up in

1485
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 3: you know, we were all running around like chickens with

1486
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 3: their head cut off, thinking Miles Garrett was going to

1487
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 3: be a Buffalo Bill about two months ago. Yeah, those

1488
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 3: guys are difference makers, game wreckers, generational talents. You can't

1489
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 3: get them unless you're unless you stink bad enough.

1490
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 2: A trade, which is what the Eagles did to move

1491
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 2: up the board. They did a trade before I believe

1492
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 2: before the draft occurred. It wasn't during the draft, and

1493
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 2: they had two ones and they were able to get

1494
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 2: up high enough to get Jalen Carter. I think somewhere

1495
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 2: in the early teens, I want to say, or even

1496
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 2: twelve or ten, somewhere around there. So they traded assets

1497
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 2: to get in a place where they could take a

1498
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 2: player like that. Do the Bills want to do that?

1499
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Speaker 2: I'll have to wait and see. But this is a

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Speaker 2: draft where the defensive tackle class is deep enough to

1501
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 2: help yourself more than once at that position, and it's

1502
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:18,639
Speaker 2: deep enough at edge rusher. I think to help yourself

1503
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 2: there as well. Knowing as I said earlier, and Panessa's

1504
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 2: in the last year of his deal, and Bosa signed

1505
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 2: a one year contract. Let's go to Cleveland up in

1506
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 2: Niagara Falls. What's up Cleveland?

1507
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 5: All right? All, Chris, I can't agree with you more

1508
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 5: at this defensive tackle class is deep a tackle and

1509
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 5: an alignment an answer wouldn't be bad. I like Elijah

1510
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 5: Thompson from Tennessee, a guy like him that could stuff

1511
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 5: that run. Let our speed deal with the outside a

1512
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:51,759
Speaker 5: little bit, you know, push out that run to the outside.

1513
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 5: Let our speed deal with the runs. To answer your question,

1514
01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 5: the only reason where we move up is for that

1515
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,680
Speaker 5: game breaker. That guy is Cropley's Travis Hunter, and I

1516
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 5: don't even want to talk about what it will take

1517
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 5: to get him. So that's a no.

1518
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 6: Right.

1519
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 5: Also like See's idea about taking more swings at it

1520
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 5: because I want to give credit to our coaching staff.

1521
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 5: We have a lot of overachieving players on our team,

1522
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 5: and I think that's really credit to our coaching staff

1523
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 5: and how good McDermott is leading that coaching staff. And

1524
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 5: I think that more swings edit. You know, we're not

1525
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 5: We're obviously not going to go on to training hit

1526
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 5: with ten guys. But if we can get ten or

1527
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:36,679
Speaker 5: twelve guys under the umbrella and let our coaches figure

1528
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 5: it out, I don't care where we go. Where were

1529
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:41,600
Speaker 5: we go eight for eight or eight for ten. I

1530
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 5: think our coaching staff has proven they're going to get

1531
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 5: the job done.

1532
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's there's something he said for that. This brownie

1533
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 3: has since early on in McDermott's tenure, has said and

1534
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 3: he's right. I mean, McDermott gets a lot out of

1535
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,720
Speaker 3: what other coaches don't get out of their players. They

1536
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 3: maximize their roster. They really always have since twenty seventeen.

1537
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 3: You go all the way back to that. And even

1538
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 3: though there's a lot of new faces and different faces

1539
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 3: on this staff, the staff is put together the same

1540
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 3: way as it was back then, with teachers and guys

1541
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 3: who developed players. They all say it again, we talk

1542
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 3: about it if we've been talking about it for eight years.

1543
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 3: McDermott took over the franchise, it was on a thirteen

1544
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 3: year drought. They traded two very reputable players away the

1545
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 3: week before the season, and they were accused it they

1546
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 3: were gonna tank the season and try and get up

1547
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 3: high enough in the draft to get a quarterback that

1548
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 3: they really needed because they had Tyrod and the whole thing,

1549
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 3: you know, and so they were gonna tank. They traded

1550
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 3: these good players away, and McDermott and the staff got

1551
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 3: more out of that roster than anybody for thirteen years.

1552
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 3: Had been able to and they get to the playoffs

1553
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 3: with that crew, to the playoffs with a tank roster. Yeah,

1554
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 3: and I know that every head coach has the people

1555
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 3: out there that clam and they're like, they're always on

1556
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 3: the hot seat. Get rid of the guy. You can't

1557
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 3: cut all that if he doesn't win the super Bowl,

1558
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 3: he stinks. I get all that. Listen, they get they

1559
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 3: maximize this roster, and they have every year. So it

1560
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 3: does make some sense to cast a wide net, keep

1561
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 3: all ten picks, maybe get an what all that stuff,

1562
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 3: move back, get an extra one, throw an extra five

1563
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 3: in there or a four, whatever for the for a

1564
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 3: you know, to move back or whatever. Because when you

1565
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 3: get ten guys in the in the building, McDermott's gonna

1566
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 3: find the ones that can really play and maximize the

1567
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 3: ones that already can. I just that's a good way

1568
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 3: to look at it. It's proven to be the way

1569
01:22:55,520 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 3: they've made their hay on this roster, on this roster

1570
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 3: and on this team. So I'm I'm okay with that.

1571
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 3: Cleveland makes the point they do maximize their talent, So

1572
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:08,680
Speaker 3: why don't you give them more talent and give them

1573
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 3: a bunch more guys and see if you do find

1574
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 3: a Christian Benford or a Matt Mulano or Khalis Shakir,

1575
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 3: I'd be okay with that.

1576
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,640
Speaker 2: And he said Elijah Thompson from Tennessee. I think he

1577
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 2: met Elijah Simmons, who's the six to two, three hundred

1578
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:25,600
Speaker 2: and thirty four pound behemoth who played six seasons in

1579
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 2: college and he's in this draft. But that's a guy

1580
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 2: you can probably get on day three. Who's a space eater.

1581
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 2: Get your talented penetrator early at defensive tackle, you know

1582
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 2: your playmaker in the middle, and then get your space

1583
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 2: eater later on. Because there's some big guys in this draft. Second,

1584
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 2: all the point attack.

1585
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 3: There's some big six five, six, six, three hundred and

1586
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 3: thirty plus pounders in this draft that are not expected

1587
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 3: to go very high that are going to be available. Yeah,

1588
01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 3: grab them.

1589
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 2: Let's go to lou in Erie. What's up, hey, guys.

1590
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,719
Speaker 1: First, I have a question about the stadium.

1591
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 8: But first, as far as.

1592
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 1: This draft, I would say in being I trust and

1593
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 1: certainly just because there's depth at defensive defensive tackle, that

1594
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean that Dean won't have his heart set

1595
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:20,599
Speaker 1: on somebody be willing to move up, and I think

1596
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,839
Speaker 1: if that person is granted the defensive tackle from Michigan,

1597
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 1: he's definitely gonna have to get in front of Jim Harbaugh.

1598
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 15: At twenty three to make that happen.

1599
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 8: I don't see Jim.

1600
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 1: Harbaugh not going after his own Michigan product. He's shown

1601
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 1: that in the past, and I think that'll happen again.

1602
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:38,720
Speaker 8: They have a need.

1603
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 1: They lost to an afford who did a great job

1604
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 1: for them last year despite not doing it for us

1605
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 1: the year before, So I could see that scenario playing out,

1606
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 1: and then, you know, if there is a run on

1607
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 1: defensive tackles, I could also see what's possibly moving up

1608
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 1: with Minnesota just a couple of spots to solidify if

1609
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:57,639
Speaker 1: he thinks that there's someone that would make a difference

1610
01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:00,040
Speaker 1: compared to the depth. And then as far as the

1611
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 1: the stadium, you were talking earlier about, you know, maybe

1612
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 1: having a huge event like the Draft in Buffalo, I've

1613
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:09,520
Speaker 1: forgotten is the plan to actually dismantle the old stadium

1614
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 1: right away, because I would assume if they're gonna do

1615
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 1: an event like that, they're gonna want and need that space,

1616
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 1: and so that might dictate if and when we can

1617
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 1: do something like the draft in the near future.

1618
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nothing concrete on that yet, Lou, but I

1619
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 2: do know that in time that stadium is gonna have

1620
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 2: to be raised because they need the space for parking.

1621
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 2: They need it for parking.

1622
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 3: The reason they need to open the new stadium on schedule, too,

1623
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 3: is because the old stadium upper decks will be uninhabitable

1624
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 3: after twenty twenty seven. So anything after that, which you know,

1625
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 3: if you're talking about the draft in twenty twenty eight,

1626
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 3: that stadium will probably be raised by that time. They

1627
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 3: probably are going to try to leave the old Administration

1628
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 3: building intact, but everything else is going to get pushed over.

1629
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 3: And that's why the new stadium. The old stadium's coming down.

1630
01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 3: The upper decks are outlived. It's just outlived itself.

1631
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 2: And we should point out too that, you know, our

1632
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 2: head honcho on the business side here, Pete Wewelly, has

1633
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 2: already stated publicly that they would like to put in

1634
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 2: for the twenty twenty eight or the twenty twenty nine

1635
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 2: NFL draft. I think they award him two years out,

1636
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 2: so I think the twenty six and twenty seven drafts

1637
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 2: have already been assigned. So you would like to put

1638
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 2: in for the twenty eight or twenty nine draft, and

1639
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 2: by then I think all the dust will have settled

1640
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 2: on any other construction projects or landmass changes here and

1641
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 2: around the stadium. And Avid wrote, gotta take a break here.

1642
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 2: One final segment to go. We'll see what you had

1643
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 2: to say on the tweet sheeet next here on One

1644
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 2: Bill's Live presented by Collide Helt It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1645
01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 2: All right, final segment here, We're gonna see what you

1646
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 2: had to say on the tweet sheet as far as

1647
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 2: what your reason is for the Bills to trade up

1648
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 2: in round one. Tweet sheet brought to you by Corgan

1649
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,719
Speaker 2: Moving Systems, official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills,

1650
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 2: and Mike says, would like to see them go up

1651
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 2: and get a top corner to start opposite Benford. Based

1652
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:16,720
Speaker 2: on most mock drafts, would only have to get to

1653
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 2: about twenty three to get to John D. Barn the

1654
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:24,640
Speaker 2: Texas corner. Artie says, need more top end talent on

1655
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:26,959
Speaker 2: d and we have a bevy of picks his ammunition

1656
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 2: better off using them to move up. So he's a

1657
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:32,560
Speaker 2: proponent of getting better talent at the top of the

1658
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 2: draft and finishing with fewer picks. David says, if an

1659
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 2: elite corner edge drops to maybe around twenty, trade up

1660
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 2: in the second if you need to get a desired DT.

1661
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 2: So he's all for moving up twice in round one

1662
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 2: and round two if necessary. And then Rick says they

1663
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:55,639
Speaker 2: should not trade up unless they are getting Travis Hunter. Well,

1664
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 2: you have to get in the top five for that guy.

1665
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 2: Steve says, I don't think there's any reason to trade

1666
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 2: up in this draft when you're picking at thirty. I

1667
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 2: can actually see them trading back, though, and then using

1668
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 2: their extra late round picks to maneuver to get guys

1669
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 2: in rounds two to four. I think there's a good

1670
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 2: chance of seeing some of that, because all we've heard

1671
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 2: is the meat potatoes of this draft is between rounds

1672
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 2: two and four, and the Bills currently have just two

1673
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 2: picks in that range.

1674
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can throw away. I mean, you've got

1675
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 3: picks one seventy one, seventy three, one seventy seven. Okay,

1676
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 3: anybody won all three of those to give us a pick,

1677
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:34,600
Speaker 3: you know somewhere in the forty to eighty range, you know, yeah,

1678
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 3: or two picks somewhere else, you know, one in the

1679
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 3: one fifty range and one in the eighty range, something

1680
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 3: like that. Maybe trade three for two or three for

1681
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 3: one even to get up in the top sixty. I'll

1682
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 3: take that.

1683
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 2: Noah Connor says, if there is a run on dts

1684
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 2: or back end players, Buffalo has been aggressive in the

1685
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 2: past to get their guy. But this draft, there really

1686
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 2: is some high end talent on the D line and

1687
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:00,720
Speaker 2: the back end. Buffalo can't sit and wait to get

1688
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 2: their guy and be left in an elim situation. Well,

1689
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 2: you're kind of contradicting yourself a little bit there, because

1690
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:11,519
Speaker 2: you're saying it's deep in high end talent on the

1691
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:13,719
Speaker 2: D line in the back end, and then you're saying

1692
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 2: you can't sit back and wait, but if there's depth

1693
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 2: of talent, you probably can wait. Yeah, So kind of

1694
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 2: a little bit out of both sides of your mouth there.

1695
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 2: Andrew says, Well, when the draft gets into the early

1696
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 2: to mid twenties and your best player available is there,

1697
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 2: then you go after him. I would hope that in

1698
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 2: return to moving up, the Bills can get a third

1699
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 2: round pick back. Well, they'll have enough Day three picks

1700
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 2: to do that. I think.

1701
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 3: Sure. It'll be interesting to see how it goes. Bro,

1702
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:42,639
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say it again. I don't think they'll pick

1703
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:44,520
Speaker 3: it thirty.

1704
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:45,720
Speaker 2: They're going one way or the other.

1705
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody will make them an offer they can't refuse

1706
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 3: to get into the first round. Oh, they can refuse exactly.

1707
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 2: We'll see. That's it for us today. As always, we'll

1708
01:29:55,800 --> 01:30:08,680
Speaker 2: see you tomorrow at one