1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to Big Fish Smallpod. I'm at Wardal, your 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: host here semi regularly on the Fish Strips podcast network. 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: Today September twenty second, we're talking about another Rogers Rogers 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: matchup against the Washington Nationals. We'll look a bit at 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimps game against Memphis. But you know, 6 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: first things first, So last night Trevor Rodgers was like great. Seriously, 7 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: Like I've been perhaps critical over the summer of Trevor 8 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: Rodgers that I at times he seemed like fatigued. Now 9 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: obviously we like certainly know the circumstances surrounding what like 10 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: you have to imagine it's been a bit of it 11 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: like a nightmarage. Ye're certainly outside of the sport for Trevor, 12 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: and you can't, like I can't help but understand that, 13 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: and like really just put that into context with watching 14 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: him pitch, not that it like overshadows it, but like 15 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 1: it tells a part of the story. And and looking 16 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: at Trevor, he's obviously been like electric last night, ten strikeouts, 17 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: really like he zips his fastball up there like in 18 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 1: the highest nineties. Obviously like pinning back major league hitters 19 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: like he plays with that fastball and his ability to 20 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: like pinpoint corners and hit like like especially hit the 21 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: corners with like his breaking pitches that change up and 22 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: slider really made it hard for Nationalist hitters. They did 23 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: get like some runners on base, and Trevor did get 24 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: like the pitch count up kind of early, but honestly 25 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: like he was doing like that like like the video 26 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: game thing and where you just like every pitch seems 27 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: to like be at the corner hard to hit, really 28 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: putting the pressure specifically on the battery. Like he struck 29 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 1: out one Soto for the first time in forty three 30 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: at bats. That's just like it like a nuts fact 31 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: and it feels earned. It's not just like oh uh, 32 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: this coin flip one Soto struck out. It's like no, actually, 33 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: like there was like solid grounds for it. It was Trevor. 34 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: What really like struck me most about this start is 35 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: just like the the stat like a quality start that 36 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: like six innings less than three runs. I've seen it 37 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 1: used as like a fantasy baseball stat. I've like even 38 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 1: at times like mentally used it as like okay, well, 39 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: like it seems like a decent way to like check 40 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 1: in see how starting pitchers are doing. But really it 41 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: hit me last night that what it pushes for is 42 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: like this unnecessary length. I mean, first of all, like 43 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: six innings, three runs. That's not like an idea you'll start, 44 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: so you're already like picking just some arbitrary spot for 45 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: this like stat to be awarded and beyond that, Like 46 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: last night, really where Trevor ran into his struggles is 47 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: the third time through the order. That was like specifically 48 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: where it was. Admittedly that was where he struck out one, 49 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: so now, but that was where the damage started to happen. 50 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: That's where Trevor was pulled for Anthony Bass and certainly 51 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: later in the season Trevor has been struggling for length. 52 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: He does allow some runners on base with like some walks, 53 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: there were some hits, some stuff like that. There was 54 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: like you know, even like that drop third strike got 55 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: a person on base. So you get to the point 56 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: where you're seeing that third time through in the fifth, 57 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: sixth inningth with Trevor, and as Todd Hollinsworth noted on 58 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: the b he had a pretty consistent approach the first 59 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: time through going fastball or ely than going to the 60 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: off speed and then the second time through going off 61 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: speed first, mixing in some of that fastball later to 62 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: try to get the strikeouts or other off speeds to 63 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: get the strikeouts playing with the off speeds using the 64 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: speed difference from the fastball to off speed. And he 65 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: hasn't really shown an ability of frequency to intermix at 66 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: high velocity. Really, that's something Sandy does that helps him 67 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: sustain through games, working with his fastball and having more 68 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: of a natural feel at that, like the intensity it 69 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: takes to get the ball going that fast. I mean, 70 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: Sandy's in the hundreds. Trevor's not quite there yet but 71 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: just twenty three, so there's plenty of room for him 72 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: to take an off season settle down. See how it felt, 73 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: I mean, we're I'm being I'm finding a flaw with 74 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: an amazing athlete, and not even like I'm finding the flawed. 75 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: No one's saying that he's flawed besides perhaps me, So 76 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: like take it with like the biggest grain of salt 77 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: to say that, like, Trevor needs to be doing something 78 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: different to do better in the major leagues. But length 79 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: has been a problem. Perhaps fatigue is a part of that. 80 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: With his like first full major league season, I mean, 81 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: first full season period in two years, So there's like 82 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: a natural like he just no one knows what that 83 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: has felt like. He has never specifically felt that felt 84 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: what it's like to face hitters that would actually really 85 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: challenge him so greatly for a long time. On top 86 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: of you know, the start last night. With his start 87 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: last night, he still helped his case towards winning Rookie 88 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: of the Year in twenty twenty one. So to call 89 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: anything about this year down at all about for Trevor, 90 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: like like, who has time for that? There's no sense 91 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: to it. There's like an inherent like just absurdity. He's 92 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: proven to us who he is. You can like, Eli 93 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: even makes the comparison today on fish drives dot Com 94 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: takes a look at Trevor Rodgers' stat line compared to 95 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: Walker Bueller's rookie stat line and like, yeah, that's where 96 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: we're at, and the fact that there's even like this 97 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: much visible room for growth for like me a podcaster, 98 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: there's so much room for his development to even like 99 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: further his abilities certainly one to watch as the game 100 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: went along for the Marlins, Nick Fortes. His home run 101 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: was the Marlins only offense of the game kind of disappointing, 102 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: Like even the way it started out with Miguel Rojas 103 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: hitting the lead off double, getting over to third but 104 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: not making it home in the first that in my 105 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: mind set the tone. But the quality of contact for 106 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: Marlins bats really stood out. The bats didn't go away 107 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: last night despite the one run. Can only imagine that 108 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: they'll be there again today against Washington as the Marlins 109 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: go for the series win at Lone Depot Park. Checking 110 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: in quickly on the Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp, the only Marlins 111 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: minor league team going at the moment, Peyton Burdick got 112 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: the start in left field, batting second for the Jumbo Shrimp, 113 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: right behind Brian Miller, ahead of Monte Harrison in that 114 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: middle spot there. Brian Miller, I mean we saw him 115 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: at the major league level, how he can really put 116 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: together and at bat and see a lot of pitches 117 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: and he can like steal some bases. So that's like 118 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: certainly like a solid triple A leadoff hitter who you 119 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: want there. Let Peyton Burdock, Peyton Burdick see a lot 120 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: of pitches, help him gain that like I for triple A. 121 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: Perhaps Brian Miller can even expose something on the opposing 122 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: picture then give it to Burdick with like I mean, 123 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: he can do like literally anything I think, like a steal, 124 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: a double, a home run, a walk. He did not 125 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: have a hit in last night's game, just a walk, 126 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: so we can still look forward to that little development 127 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: in the miners. While Monte Harrison, who's like been like 128 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: the like bat of recent in Jacksonville, batting third, he 129 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: also was hitless with a strikeout. Most of the Marlins 130 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: offense came from Luins Lorenzo Quintana, that like catcher first 131 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: base bat that the Marlins got from the Astros earlier 132 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: in the year. You know, I mean there's like four 133 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: catchers at the major league level right now, so he's 134 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: perhaps a little bit blocked at this instant, but he's still, 135 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: you know, right there working it out. Nick Knighter got 136 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: the start for Jacksonville. He went four innings, gave up 137 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: three runs, seven hits, five strikeouts, but it was enough 138 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: to keep the Marlins in the game. As they went 139 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: to their bullpen, the Marlins affiliate brought the score into 140 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: their favor. The bullpen locked it down Cody Carroll and 141 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: Andrew Bayati in the eighth and ninth actually three strikeouts each. 142 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: Really good to see some developing relievers and more talent 143 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: that could soon as early as twenty twenty two, or 144 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: even in the absolute twilight of this season make it 145 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: to the show. For today, I have been at Ordal. Tonight, 146 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: the Marlins will face the Nationals at six point forty 147 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: at Lone DEEPO Park as Eliezer Hernandez will go against 148 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: Josiah Gray and the Marlins will look to win this 149 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: series against Washington. For more news and analysis, stay tuned 150 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: to Fish Stripes, both on the page and the podcast, 151 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: Big Fish Small Pod will be back with you tomorrow