1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Previously on Weedian House. 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 2: Well, like Grant's hasn't came out of downtown Los Angeles 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: like the lawyers did. They traveled from Los Angeles to 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 2: Oregon to go represent the city of Grant's past to 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court. They were not from there. So it's 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: interesting that you know, it's okay for lawyers to go 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: to a city that's like, isn't you know their city? 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 3: Right? 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 2: But like it's not okay for an unhouse person to 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: move from another state. You know, like people act like 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: if you weren't born in Los Angeles, then you shouldn't 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: be allowed to be homeless. 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 4: Here. 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Weedian House. I'm your host, Theo Henderson. Our 15 00:00:55,480 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: last episode necessitated a message on the importance of not 16 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: diminishing others in order to speak out on current in 17 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: your face injustice. This week, we're going to expand deeper 18 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 1: on the topics first by using the Jordan Neely trial, 19 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: where there's Nimby talking points and the currently indicted Mayor 20 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: of New York, Eric Adams, calling for an involuntary commitment 21 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: of mentally ill unhoused people. Jordan Neely, a young African American. 22 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson impersonator was on the train in New York 23 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: performing and asking for funds because he was hungry. He 24 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: verbally expressed frustration, which prompted a white veteran named Daniel 25 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: Penny to physically choke Jordan Neely with the assistance of 26 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: other people to prevent Jordan from fighting for his life, 27 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:05,919 Speaker 1: they killed him. The crime took place in the spring 28 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three, and now the trial surrounding this case, 29 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: which began last month, has finally exposed the true essence 30 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: of many house viewpoints of unhoused people. This didn't happen 31 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: and avoid hatred of the young housed is a facet 32 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: of New York City government. Mary Adams claimed frustration on 33 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: learning that Ramon rivera and unhoused man with mental health 34 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: challenges and a prior arrest, killed three people. Pay attention 35 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: to the arrest detail. We will return to this in 36 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: a moment. Adams claimed that the significant acts of violence 37 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: are from people with severe mental illnesses. He stopped short 38 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: from blatantly saved from unhoused mentally ill people. Another exile 39 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: that occurred in New York in twenty twenty two was 40 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: Simon Marshall, another unhoused man pushed Michelle Go in front 41 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: of an oncoming train. Fear mongering from incidents like this 42 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: often leads to and empowers a type of vigilanteism that 43 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: we saw when Daniel Penny murdered Short and Neely. Here 44 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: is a word association to conjure up how unhoused people 45 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: are seen. Unhoused, drug addict mentally ill, violent deserves violence, incarceration, 46 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: involuntary commitment if that fails, violence against the unhoused that 47 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: results in death. The way to get there had been 48 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: found in the New York Daily News articles stating that 49 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: one witness was scared of Jordan Neely's behavior. When Daniel 50 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: Penny killed him, she hung around to thank him for 51 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: keeping her safe. This echoes the racial tropes of earlier 52 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: times than Jim Crow. Another witness which hearkens and brings 53 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: the visual image of a young high school student witnessing 54 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: a lynching as a gala event. But this witness stated 55 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: that she did not hear people saying to let him go, 56 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: which is the struggle between Daniel Penny choking Jordan Neely 57 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: and Jordan struggling for his life to be released. It 58 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: doesn't take much for this narrative to be pushed upon 59 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: mainstream society, which is importantly the function of we in 60 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: house to break down these harmful stereotypes because they put 61 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: all on house people, whether they struggle with mental illness 62 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: and addictions or not in jeopardy. When unhous people are 63 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: attacked by house people such as Daniel Penny, there have 64 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: been and few media outlets, but no calls from the 65 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: mayor the cause this house veteran to be rounded up 66 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: and arrested for killing unhoused people. It's almost a one 67 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: and done type of reporting. The public returns to the 68 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: regular scheduled program of unhoused people are drug addicts, mentally ill, 69 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: violent and deserve violence, incarceration and involuntary commitment. With grants 70 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: Pass looming large on the horizon. Episodes like Almante shows 71 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: the easiness of targeting the unhoused community with barely a whimper. 72 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: Grandspass is a ruling that states it is not cruel 73 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: or unusual punishment to hunt down unhoused people susceptible to 74 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: living and existing on public property. If Mayor Eric Adams 75 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: is pushing for involuntary commitment for people who he deems 76 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: should be off there, what is to stop other city 77 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: leaders from following his leads on other facets of of 78 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: the unhoused community like struck wellness, fars, sex worker incarceration, compounds, 79 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: young aged out detention facilities for unhoused use in some 80 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: With this election as well as the grands Pass ruling, 81 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: we must keep our eyes, ears, hearts and spirits open 82 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: to stand up and speak out against these blatant dog whistles. 83 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: And when we come back, we're going to talk about 84 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: a crucial component to society and the unhoused local mutual 85 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: A welcome back to Weedian House. This week, we are 86 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: back in the field, milling about and getting the vibe 87 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: on what transpires at a Los Angeles UTU Aid operation SILA. 88 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: PILA has been around since twenty seventeen and is run 89 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: mainly by volunteers and a small staff. They run a 90 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: few programs a week, offering services that range from direct 91 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: outreach to host the hot lunches and dinners, providing clothing, 92 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: pet food, and connecting participants with services that can range 93 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: from medical care, pet care, assistance with IDs, transportation, jobs, 94 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: and caseworkers. I went to two different SEALA programs in Alastmath, 95 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: one on a Wednesday and one on a Saturday to 96 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,239 Speaker 1: get a better feel for how participants and volunteers interact 97 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: with the program and their feelings on the Grand Pass legislation. First, 98 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: I spoke with first time volunteer named Max. 99 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 5: Well, my name is Max. 100 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 6: I've lived in LA for eight years, and around two 101 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 6: years ago, I, you know, seeing that house population grow 102 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 6: and grow, I'm like, what am I personally doing to 103 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 6: make things better? 104 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: You know? 105 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 6: I feel that we all have a responsibility to get 106 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 6: out there and do something. So I started volunteering MacArthur 107 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 6: Park of occasionally helping just hand out lunches there and 108 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 6: that was really nice because everyone was so lovely and 109 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 6: it's really great to meet that house in person because 110 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 6: your perception the Sigma's kind of fade away. And now 111 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 6: recently with the election, which I want to get into, no, 112 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 6: I felt more than ever. 113 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 5: I need to get back and do more things. 114 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: So why see, Look, why didn't you stay in Macroacta Park. 115 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: It must have been something compelled you to come here. Yeah. 116 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 6: I read this article on a publication that I'm free 117 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 6: in the name of about Hayes Davenport, who I believe 118 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 6: is part of CELA, and he spoke about the amazing 119 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 6: work that's being done here, and it inspired me to 120 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 6: get active and be involved. 121 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: What is your feelings on the new president as well 122 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: as the Grant's pass ruling? Have you heard of what 123 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: Grant passes? No, I'm not familiar. Have you heard of 124 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: forty one eighteen is? 125 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 6: No? 126 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'm going to give you a brief a 127 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: primer on it so you can understand why this is 128 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: Germane to unhoused people. Now in the shortened version, forty 129 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: one eighteen was the horrible stepchild of the Martin versus 130 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: Boise ruling. Martin versus Boise had handed down a ruling 131 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: saying this cruel and unusual punishment to penalize poor people 132 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: that have no place to go where that needed place 133 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: to sleep, mainly on house community members. To that end, 134 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: what forty one eighteen is here was an outcry and 135 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: outrage of that ruling. So the city usualized forty one eighteen, 136 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: which states it is against the law for anybody to sit, sleep, 137 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: or lie in public places and it was target unhoused people. 138 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: They created special enforcement zones to target unhoused people on 139 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: certain days with twenty four to forty eight hour notice 140 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: if they if that to come in or what they 141 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: call care or care plus, which care plus would be 142 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: a comprehensive sweep. We're dismantling all of the house people's 143 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:15,359 Speaker 1: belongings and infrastructure and removing and cleaning and the auspices 144 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: of cleaning the area. But it was usually followed by 145 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: having police roation, hostile sanitation city employees in order to 146 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: dismantle and displace. Let's say, for example, that you have 147 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: at home or a car, and I told you that 148 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: you had five minutes to get all your most precious belongings. 149 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: Then I put a yellow tape on it. And if 150 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: you forgot your medication, let's take some eyeglasses, maybe children's 151 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: important medical documents and you will go back into it. 152 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: Now you are a subject to arrest because you went 153 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: over this line. But these are the things that you 154 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: paid for. These are your property. And the idea is 155 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: that you are now a criminal for wanting to go 156 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: get retrieved the things that are yours. Is the sticking 157 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: point that the city has done to many unhoused people 158 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles, California. Now, what Grant's pass have 159 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: done with forty eighteen was so different is that there 160 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: was some type of legal recourse, there was some type 161 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: of accountability, but the six Republican Supreme Court justices, when 162 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: Grant's Pass Oregon had brought their case to the Supreme Court, 163 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: have deemed it is perfectly acceptable to target unhoused people 164 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: to be able to arrest them without any offer of services, 165 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: without any kind of notification whatsoever. So if I see 166 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: you somewhere launching in any place, I don't need to 167 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: offer you housing. I don't need to offer you service. 168 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: You can't be there. If you resist, then I offer 169 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: you a way to go to jail. The second thing 170 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: is here is where people that are living in recreational vehicles. 171 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: The recreational vehicles there's now a ban here in Los 172 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: Angeles is if they feel the van is not operatable 173 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: or is I sore? And if you don't move when 174 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: they tell you to move, they can tell your van, 175 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: throw all your things away and put you in jail 176 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,599 Speaker 1: because now that you don't have replace the gig with 177 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: grants passed. So these things are very germane to the 178 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: unhoused assistance. And it is so important for us to 179 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: educate and let people all house and unhoused people know 180 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: what is coming down the pike. And that's one of 181 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: the reasons why I ask the question on why, you know, 182 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: what would be your feelings on this on top of 183 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: the Trump presidency, So hopefully I succinctly yeah, brought into 184 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: your vista. So what's your insights on this? 185 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 4: Uh? 186 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 6: Well, I guess you know, so many questions come up, 187 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 6: Like first of all, what is an is an ice hore? 188 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 6: You know, like what wigg'gram to we give ourselves to 189 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 6: when we don't want to see something. You know, it's 190 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 6: obviously nobody wants to see anybody who's unhoused, but like, 191 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 6: you know, does that mean we're going to full on 192 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 6: complain about people's vans just being on our street? 193 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,239 Speaker 5: Like that's that? That gives so much room. 194 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: To oh by the way, but yeah, yeah yeah. 195 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 6: And then also like when unhoused aar you know, push 196 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 6: out of their space, where do they go? You know, 197 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 6: it's not like they have a place they can like a backup, 198 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 6: there's no you know, so we're just moving them around. 199 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 6: It feels like we're not really finding a place for them. 200 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: But most importantly, they're still human beings subjected to the 201 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: same human civil rights like you and I have for 202 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: example creating forty one to eighteen. And I have witnessed 203 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: firsthand where unhouse people just come and just sit in 204 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: a bench by themselves, just mining their business, taking in 205 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: the air and not barbing anybody, and security will run 206 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: them off or threaten if they don't move, they'll call 207 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: the cops or the business improvement thing. It's this segregation 208 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: and kind of tactic is designed to target on house people. 209 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: You know, they can't go into a restaurant if they 210 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: look like they just shoveled on house and they don't 211 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: want them there, that's the justification for removing them. And 212 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: if you have a specially wharton to zone right outside 213 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: at the restaurant, then that's perfectly legal to do that. 214 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, And it kind of paints them as an enemy. 215 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 6: You know, it's you pick sides. 216 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 5: We're not. 217 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 6: We're all on the same team here, right, we all 218 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 6: want it's best for everybody, But why are we separating 219 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 6: ourselves like this? 220 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's the long and short of it. And 221 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: I wanted to bring you up to speed and get 222 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: your intake on why he wanted to join. Is there 223 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: anything that I missed that you want to elucidate on 224 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: You mentioned Trump. 225 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 5: Is there anything that he specifically has talked about doing 226 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 5: or is that just. 227 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: Well, in the previous episodes, he's been talking about forcing 228 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: unhoused people into jail for treatment, even if they may 229 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: not have mental health or substant useless issues, So, you know, 230 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: we probably it's a pretty strong bad it's how his 231 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: antipathy against unhoused and people of color, the people of 232 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: different orientations, and people's medical issues or disability community. We 233 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: pretty much knows where he basically stands about that, So 234 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: it's not too far stretch that it's not He's not 235 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: going to give us a coc and a smile when 236 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: he's you know, and he's an office. So I just 237 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: wanted to see if you had any insight on him. 238 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. 239 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 6: Well, I mean I'm not the most educated person on 240 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 6: this stuff, but I'm grateful that you told me about 241 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 6: about everything because I wasn't aware of Grant's pastor like 242 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 6: anything like that at all was included in. 243 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: Well, I thank you for your honesty and to it 244 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: because it gives me more fortified to continue to do 245 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: this because, like I do believe that we have to 246 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: start to talk about it more because it's not talked 247 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: about it mainstream conversations in mainstream media, and it's necessary 248 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: with the show. So Max, thank you for your time. 249 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it, and I'm obviously going to come 250 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: back and follow up on your perspective here and then 251 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: your insights on the situation with the unhouse community. Thanks 252 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: to Max for his time. Next up, I talked to 253 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: a long time volunteer who now works as an on 254 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: site lead for their Saturday program. 255 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: Hi. 256 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 4: I'm Quel. I'm a volunteer lead on the site at TILA. 257 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 4: I've been volunteering with SILA for three years exactly. I 258 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 4: started right around Thanksgiving your twenty twenty one, and I 259 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 4: think I found out about SELA on social media when 260 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 4: they were having a fund raiser of some sort. And 261 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 4: I grew up in LA and lived away for a while, 262 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 4: and when I moved back, really just saw how much 263 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 4: had changed as far as the housing crisis, which was 264 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 4: already you know, around and affecting people when I grew 265 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 4: up here, but had really just gotten a lot worse 266 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 4: while I was away, and wanted to do something about 267 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 4: it and really like connect with people in my neighborhood 268 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 4: and my community, both housed and unhoused and try to 269 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 4: help out. 270 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: You say you were away, where were you awake? 271 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: Oh? 272 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 4: I lived in New York for nine years. 273 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's a whole different. You know, I'm in Chicago, 274 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: and so we the Chicago and New York rivalry on 275 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: food and pizza, it's legendary. Though. I won't take you there, 276 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: but you know, because I know you will say Chicago's 277 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: fizza is better. But I just I digress. I digress. 278 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: So what is the exciting parts of being the volunteer 279 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: lead here? 280 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 4: You know, I think that it's really getting to be 281 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 4: the person that connects with new volunteers. As a volunteer lead, 282 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 4: we give a little like orientation for new people and 283 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 4: really show them, you know, what it means to be 284 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 4: part of the community here at SELA, and also connecting 285 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 4: with our participants. You know, starting off as just a 286 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 4: regular volunteer, there's so much that you can do. But 287 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 4: I think as a volunteer lead you can also kind 288 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 4: of get a sense of what's going on at CELA 289 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 4: and also try to like help make things better and 290 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 4: make things run more smoothly, and so, you know, really 291 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 4: just like getting to learn both our volunteers really well 292 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 4: and our participants and making sure that the day flows 293 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 4: really well and calling out ways that we can like 294 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 4: improve the way that we set up or run the day. Like, 295 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 4: we realized that people were waiting in line for a 296 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 4: long time to get clothing, and so we started this 297 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 4: new clothing list where now people can actually sit down 298 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 4: for a while and eat their food and wait to 299 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 4: get clothing and not have to stand in line. And 300 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 4: so there's just little things like that that as a 301 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 4: lead you can kind of keep an eye out for 302 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 4: to make the experience better on both volunteers and participants. 303 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: So your job is to coordinating, be the eye on 304 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 1: how to be more efficient pretty much. 305 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm sort of the person like day of 306 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 4: on our Saturday on site programs here at Silver Lake 307 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 4: Community Church and really like facilitating kind of when volunteers 308 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 4: show up and making sure that everyone knows what they're 309 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 4: supposed to do for the day, sometimes moving people around 310 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 4: so that people are able to take breaks and we 311 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 4: have someone else to be able to fill in and so, yeah, 312 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 4: just kind of helping run the day on site. 313 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: What are the challenging parts of doing being a volunteerly? 314 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 4: You know, I think it's trying to keep an eye 315 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 4: out for both like participants and volunteers who you know 316 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 4: might not be having a good day, or there might 317 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 4: be an incident that crops up, and I think that 318 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 4: you know, trying to make sure that like new purchasemants 319 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 4: who haven't been at CELA before also understand kind of 320 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 4: the lay of the land and what they can get 321 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 4: access to, but also what we can't help them with. 322 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 4: And then saying with volunteers, making sure that they feel 323 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 4: empowered to help participants and know the right ways to 324 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 4: do that. And you know, what kind of supplies we offer, 325 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 4: what kind of services we offer, and so making sure 326 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 4: that everyone really knows what they can and can't do 327 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 4: is like a good and sometimes challenging part of the day. 328 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 1: And with all of this is going on a swirl 329 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: of activity, what is your insight on the current presidency 330 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: as well as. 331 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 4: Grants pass I feel nervous and anxious about the impact 332 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 4: of both of those on our community. I think that 333 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 4: even just in the three years that I've been volunteering 334 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 4: with SILA, I've seen a really big increase. We've more 335 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 4: than double the number of people who come through here, 336 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 4: and I think we've also seen you know, an increase 337 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 4: in on how people living on the streets in LA 338 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 4: and also people facing housing and security and food insecurity, 339 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 4: and so I think all of those things I am 340 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 4: worried are going to negatively affect the unhoused population in 341 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 4: LA and increase it. And I think that you know, 342 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 4: Grant's Pass especially is just like not effective and not 343 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 4: a great way to help people who are already living 344 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 4: on the streets. I think a lot more needs to 345 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 4: beat on to be put into more affordable housing in 346 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 4: LA and really getting people off the streets, but also 347 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 4: recognizing that the people on the streets don't have often 348 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 4: an alternative or a better option, and navigating the housing 349 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 4: system is already hard as it is, and so criminalizing 350 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 4: that is really bad and really going to affect people 351 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 4: negatively very good. 352 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: I totally agree. I would say, is there any ray 353 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: of sunshine do you feel that's going to be able 354 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: to be a bombing gilliad if you will, or be 355 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: a bomb in a way to help hope under these conditions? 356 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 4: I think, you know, one thing was the build that 357 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 4: has to raise more money for housing programs, So I 358 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 4: think that that is one positive. I also think that 359 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 4: a lot more people are energized to participate in their community. 360 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 4: A lot of a lot more people are I think, 361 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 4: scared of what can happen under Trump's presidency and want 362 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 4: to connect more in their community. And so we've seen 363 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 4: in the last few weeks, just after the election and 364 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 4: increase in new volunteers. We tend to have one or 365 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 4: two new people. Today we have five. So I think that, 366 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 4: you know, I hope that it motivates more people to 367 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 4: really get involved in their community. And you know, we're 368 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 4: helping to alleviate some of the challenges that people face 369 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 4: who are living on the street or who are housing insecure. 370 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 4: So I think, if nothing else, it's going to help 371 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:44,959 Speaker 4: bring more people together. 372 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: Well, thank you Riquil for your insight and your time. 373 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: I know you're going to be busy because of the holidays, 374 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: and I thank our listeners for listening in. And it 375 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: is my hope we again meet in the light of understanding. 376 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: Thanks so much to Requil. Can follow her work with 377 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: SELA over on their website www CILANHC dot org. Our 378 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: next guest is an unhoused participant who attends Sela's Wednesday program. 379 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: A young woman named the Ruse here's our talk. How 380 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: long have you been living on the streets? 381 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 3: Four months? 382 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: How did you get to be in this position? 383 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 3: At about like sixteen or seventeen years old? 384 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: So when you became out here for four months? How 385 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: did you become out on the street? How did you 386 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: get out on the street? 387 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 3: Well, my family kicked me out when I was nineteen 388 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 3: years old, when I got brie. 389 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to hear that was this here in Los 390 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: Angeles or greak here? So your family threw you out? 391 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: And how were you able to survive? What did you 392 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: what was your first night? Like, first I. 393 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 3: Stay in a storage with my boyfriend. But when they 394 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 3: kick them out, now I land in the streets. 395 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: Is it difficult to staying in the storage or staying 396 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:15,479 Speaker 1: in the streets? 397 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 3: In the storage not in the streets because it's dangerous. 398 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, So what do you have? Does that plan? What 399 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: do you plan on doing to get off the streets? 400 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 3: Like, I wanna to get out of the streets. I 401 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 3: wanna get a job then to get money so I 402 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 3: could go in a place like in a housing. 403 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: Wow. Is there anything you like to do is creatively, 404 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: like for something for your own career or do you 405 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: have any interesting. 406 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 3: I wanna when I grow up, I want to be 407 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 3: a teacher. 408 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: Cool, what do you like to teach? 409 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 6: Math? 410 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: English? Zide Yan's history. 411 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: So general studies? Okay, wow, so no, thank you. So 412 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: that's that's awesome. I was going to say, is there 413 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: anything else would you like to say to people that 414 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: are experiencing the same things that you are? 415 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 5: Like? 416 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: What is that if it's having the same kind of 417 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: experiences or going through the same things that you're going through, 418 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: is there anything encouraging you want to say? 419 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 3: No? Thanks it? 420 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, thank you, You're very very helpful and I 421 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: hope to come back and talk with you soon. Thank 422 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: you very much. Thanks again to Ruse for her time. 423 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: We're going to take a break and we will be 424 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: right back. Welcome back. This is THEO Henderson with Weedy 425 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: and Howe. Finally, I spoke with Maybe, a girl in 426 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: long time neighborhood advocate who recently began working as the 427 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: full time operations manager was Cela. We got to chat 428 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: in a recent Seala's Saturday program. Here's our talk. 429 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 7: Thank you so much for having me THEO. Hey everybody, 430 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 7: my name is Maybe and I am the operations manager 431 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 7: for CELA. I actually just started working for CELA about 432 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 7: three months ago, so I'm still new to the position, 433 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 7: but I'm not new to CILA. I actually started volunteering 434 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 7: with CELA back in twenty nineteen. I'm a member of 435 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 7: the Silver Lake Neighborhood Council, and in twenty nineteen we 436 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 7: partnered with CELA briefly. Celia used to do a program 437 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 7: called the Wednesday Night Suppers, and once a month, whenever 438 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 7: we would have our neighborhood Council meeting, a number of 439 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 7: our board members would come to SILA and help prepare 440 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 7: and serve the supper that evening, and then we would 441 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 7: go on to our meeting. And that went on until 442 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 7: about the onset of the pandemic, and so stopped doing 443 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 7: it at that time. But I was really touched by 444 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 7: Sela and just the great work that Sela does. I'm 445 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 7: really proud to work for this organization because it's an 446 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 7: incredible grassroots organization and it's all volunteer powered. It is 447 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 7: community coming together for community. I am a staff member 448 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 7: of SILA, but we only have three staff members. We 449 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 7: have about four hundred dedicated volunteers that actually make all 450 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 7: of our programming work. And it's just really inspiring to see. 451 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 7: For me, one of the things that I think is 452 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 7: the most beautiful about CELA is the community element to it. 453 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 7: And you know, we do provide food and hygiene supplies, 454 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 7: harm reduction supplies, various services, clothing, you know, a lot 455 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 7: of the essentials and you can get those at different places. 456 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 7: You can get assistance, you know with that through different 457 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 7: even governmental agencies, But what a governmental agency is never 458 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 7: going to give you is community. 459 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: I was going to say, what was the identifying thing 460 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: that's so different about SILA, and I think you kind 461 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: of already answer the question community and why do you 462 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: feel that that is so important? And that's differentiating attribute 463 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: that is with CILO. 464 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 7: I think it's it's so important for everybody involved in CELIA. 465 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 7: I think it really humanizes our our neighbors. And you know, 466 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 7: something that I feel most Angelino's have noticed or experienced 467 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 7: is witnessing, particularly how'sed Angelino's ignoring folks who are living 468 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 7: on the streets. 469 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: You know, you see. 470 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 7: People walking over human beings and it's a really gross thing. 471 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 7: And so I think it's really awesome for our volunteers 472 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 7: to be able to connect with our unhoused neighbors. To 473 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 7: be able to, you know, just have a better sense 474 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 7: of understanding of what a lot of our neighbors are 475 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 7: going through. And I think it's also wonderful for our 476 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 7: unhoused neighbors, for our participants that are, you know, taking 477 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 7: part in these programs, because they get to develop relationships 478 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 7: not only with our volunteers, but also with each other. 479 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 7: I'm really inspired when I see, just like the conversations 480 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 7: that are happening here at Sela, between participants, between volunteers, 481 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 7: between volunteers and participants. 482 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: I've been unhoused, and I have had experience in dealing 483 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: with the governmental apparatus, and I noticed the burnout or 484 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: the hostility sometimes these government positions do. And the difference 485 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: we're dealing with mutual aid groups is that again, when 486 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: you say community the humanity, and it's like, it's not 487 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: that the you need necessarily need to cuss out somebody 488 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: for them to act if they had wanted an extra 489 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: piece of bread or extra food or extra socks. And 490 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: I noticed that sometimes we could be so desensitized and 491 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: being abused and being abusive that that has become you know, 492 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: the lexicon of our own humanity psyche. If you will 493 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: so One of the things that I wanted to ask 494 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: of you is like, what motivates you out of all 495 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: of this to join SULA? Anyway was you doing prior 496 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: to tonight in nineteen It had to be a watershedable. Yeah. 497 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 7: So well, for me, I've been involved in local politics 498 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 7: for about six years on the neighborhood council, and I 499 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 7: decided to run for much higher position. I ran for 500 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 7: Congress in twenty twenty, twenty twenty two and twenty twenty 501 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 7: four came pretty close. In twenty twenty two we made 502 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 7: it to the general election. It was came in second 503 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 7: place out of nine candidates. And one of the things 504 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 7: that I was hoping to do if I had been 505 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 7: elected to Congress, you know, housing is so important to me, 506 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 7: and you know, housing is a human right, and I 507 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 7: wish that everybody in Congress, in our state governments recognized that. 508 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 7: So for me, it's all about getting people housed and 509 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 7: you know, creating more permanent support of housing. And so 510 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 7: when I lost the election a third time, it really 511 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 7: gave me moments for pause to think about, well, how 512 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 7: do I how do I continue to fight for the 513 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 7: things that I want to fight for. How I've been 514 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 7: elected to Congress, and SELA really stood out to me 515 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 7: because it's it's such a local, grassroots, hugely impactful organization. 516 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 7: And I like to think big a lot, but when 517 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 7: it comes down to it, you're so much more able 518 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 7: to create a meaningful impact on a local level. And 519 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 7: so you know, they say all politics are local, and 520 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 7: it's true. And so you know, I said to myself, 521 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 7: I want to be able to start working towards these 522 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 7: goals that I was hoping to do in higher office. 523 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 7: What better way to do it than to work with, 524 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 7: you know, a really amazing, authentic, grassroots organization. And you know, 525 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 7: I think it really really speaks to me about this 526 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 7: organization is that it is primarily volunteer led. Nobody has 527 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 7: to be here. Everybody wants to be here, Everybody wants 528 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 7: to be part. 529 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 5: Of the solution. 530 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 7: And you know, again a big part of that is 531 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 7: is community and you know, helping people to have some hope, 532 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 7: and you know, I think that are really important things. 533 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 7: It's a really positive environment. And you know, I think 534 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 7: a lot of people, especially for somebody who maybe has 535 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 7: never been to a homeless shelter or like a soup kitchen, 536 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 7: they probably think of it as like a really depressing environment. 537 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 7: But actually here at CELA, you know, we really enjoy 538 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 7: our time with our participants, and these tend to be 539 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 7: very engaging and community building events. Like they're they're very 540 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 7: positive events, and we learn a lot from each other. 541 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 7: I mean, even for me, it's given me so much 542 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 7: more perspective into, you know, what's really important in life 543 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 7: and what you really need to, you know, to get by. 544 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 7: And I think especially I know a lot of people 545 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 7: are upset about the you know, presidential election results, and 546 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 7: I think a lot of people are fearful right now, 547 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 7: and I think it's been really inspiring to see the 548 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 7: community come together and to see just the number of 549 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 7: people who since the election have reached out to CELA 550 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 7: saying I want to get involved. I feel like I 551 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 7: need to do something, and I think that's a great thing. 552 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: All on two different notes. When I have lived in 553 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: shelters as well, the reason you look maybe looks more 554 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: like these we're talking about. The Ebeneza Scrooge kind of 555 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: environment is usually because of the car through precepts and rules, 556 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: and conversely, this is a little bit different. It's like, 557 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: you know, you're not coming off like the heavy you're 558 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: not they can't do this and that or these kind 559 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: of conversational points makes it a lot much more inviting 560 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: and less like, you know, you're going to be beaten 561 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: down just to get a loaf of bread or get 562 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: something to eat, or just to stay out of the elements. 563 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: But also you mentioned about being hopeful. What is your 564 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: insight on the parallel presidency as well as the Grants 565 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: Pass ruling that's been going on, and what do you 566 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: what's your insight on grass Pass ruling? But what do 567 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: you foresee in the future. 568 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, so you know, when I say hopeful, you know, 569 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 7: I guess I'm hopeful because I see every single day 570 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,719 Speaker 7: people that want to make a difference and people that 571 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 7: want to see the change changes that we needed to 572 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 7: make sure that every single neighbor is taken care of. 573 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 7: And you're so correct about the you know, oftencarcoral conditions 574 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 7: of a lot of shelter opportunities. And it really bothers 575 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 7: me when I hear people's complain about seeing unhoused people 576 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 7: and you know, saying, well, why don't they just go 577 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 7: to a shelter? You know, you know they have these 578 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 7: tiny homes over here. There's the bridge housing over here. 579 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 7: And you know, those options work for many people, and 580 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 7: they don't work for many people because, as with every 581 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 7: population of people, unhoused people are not a monolith. Everybody 582 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 7: has a different experience where they're coming from, different challenges 583 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 7: that they're facing. And you know, when I explain to 584 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 7: some folks who are unfamiliar with this idea that you know, 585 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,959 Speaker 7: if you get into this temporary housing, oftentimes you can 586 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 7: only bring two bags of clothing, you can't have a pet, 587 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 7: you can't have loved ones with you, you have to 588 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 7: be in by a certain time, out by a certain time. 589 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 7: There's so many rules and regulations, and that's not for everybody. 590 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 7: So I think, you know, one of the big things 591 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 7: that we try to do at SILA is a lot 592 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 7: of trust building, which I would imagine that there's a 593 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 7: lot of mistrust amongst our house neighbors towards various organizations 594 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 7: and housed people and so yeah, and that's that's totally understandable. 595 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 1: I also want to put the conversation into a larger focus. 596 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: We all are human and the human condition is complex. 597 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: Safe if you will or you're looking to find or 598 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: live in in a place you look in wig in 599 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: the cost. You look in the vicinity, you look into 600 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: your availability, you look at price, you look at you know, 601 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: if your children can be able to go to school, 602 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: you look at if you're fleeing for domestic abuse, obviously 603 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 1: you're not going to be living next to your ex 604 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 1: spouse or in the vicinity. All of these things play 605 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: a part in the choices and the suggestions that are 606 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: offered about just taking shelter. And just like a human, 607 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: if you are housed and able to afford rent and 608 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,240 Speaker 1: you can be able to choose one apartment from another, 609 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: or on house people are stripped from that agency. They 610 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: don't get that same grace, they don't get that same understanding. 611 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,479 Speaker 1: They get their service resistant or they don't want help. 612 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: And that is the unfair burden on house people have 613 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: to face. 614 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 7: It's incredibly unfair, and I think that's something that a 615 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 7: lot of house people take for granted every single day, 616 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 7: is the choices that they have in how they conduct 617 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 7: their everyday lives. And so Sila, you know, to be clear, 618 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,760 Speaker 7: we're not a housing provider, but some of the services 619 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 7: that we do are you know, we do a lot 620 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 7: of documentation preparedness so that you know when housing does 621 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 7: become available, we can try to help, you know, make 622 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 7: the transition into housing as smooth as possible and provide 623 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 7: additional support afterwards. But back to this idea of choices. 624 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 7: You know, even at Sela, a lot of house people 625 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 7: have this perspective of well, you know, they have nothing, 626 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,879 Speaker 7: so they should just take whatever is offered to them. 627 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 7: And exactly, you know that they think about that when 628 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 7: it comes to house, but even when it comes to 629 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 7: you know, clothing donations and food donations, like people think, oh, well, here, 630 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 7: I've got a loaf of bread, you have to take this. 631 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 7: And if somebody doesn't want to loaf for bread, they 632 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 7: don't want to loaf for bread, you know. And that's 633 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,240 Speaker 7: why we at least try to provide you know, different 634 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 7: choices whenever we have food, and to try to keep 635 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 7: it varied. And even clothing, when we have guidelines about 636 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 7: the sort of donations will take. The biggest guideline is 637 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,439 Speaker 7: is this something that you would gift to somebody else 638 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 7: or is this something that you would wear yourself. 639 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 5: Don't give us a. 640 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 7: Shirt that's you know, filled with holes in it, unless 641 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 7: it's fashion it's and it's supposed to. 642 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: Look like that. Well food variety is such a revolutionary 643 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: concept to many other services providers. And I had to 644 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,240 Speaker 1: point out as I've gotten younger in my younger years, 645 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: is that I have a health considerations. And when I 646 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: did an episode on Harbor City and on House, people 647 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: were like just completely exasperated. There was people bringing boxes 648 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: of bread and they were like, oh god, bread again, 649 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 1: just bribe bread and nothing else, and they just left 650 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: it there, just on and And the thing with this 651 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: is like, look, we understand they don't want to hurt 652 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,479 Speaker 1: people's feelings, but like, look, we don't want any more bread. 653 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 1: The only thing is feeding is the rest because we 654 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: ain't need to know this bread out because you know 655 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: there's nothing else with it. And sometimes you know, the 656 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: health issues is like diabetes can't have all that bread 657 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: because all of you know different things or different other 658 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: health issue. Health consideration. It's not always you're trying to 659 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 1: be difficult or you're just trying to be a diva 660 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 1: or devote. You are trying to be a person that 661 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: makes informer choices, or you don't have health consequences, which 662 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: is a different, a different difficulty dealing out on the street. 663 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 1: And I don't think helps people can consider that because 664 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,280 Speaker 1: they don't look at them as human beings. 665 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 7: But I totally agree with that, and I think sort 666 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 7: of the irony in that is that I would imagine 667 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,280 Speaker 7: that it's probably more likely that somebody who is experiencing 668 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 7: homelessness would have some particular dietary issues, you know, things 669 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 7: that they need, things that they don't need, you know. 670 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 7: So that's why we always try to provide, you know, 671 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,280 Speaker 7: meat options, for vegetarian options. We try to vegan options, 672 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 7: We try to whenever we can, to gluten free options. 673 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 7: We try to be really accommodating to the to the 674 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,919 Speaker 7: needs of our participants. You know, it's not just all right, 675 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 7: here's the tray of rice, go at it exactly. 676 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: Or you know what the big issue for me is 677 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: why am I? I'm a stress eater as well. But 678 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 1: also what balloon my weight is the lack of storage 679 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,240 Speaker 1: of food because I couldn't store all of the food 680 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: because if I did, then it's spoiled and then then 681 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: who wants to suffer from food poisoning? So now I 682 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: got another dimensions, So you have to eat half half 683 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 1: the which spikes the sugar and make spikes all the 684 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: other issues that I don't think again. Like I said, 685 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 1: I just don't think as a human condition that we 686 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: don't understand the diversity of issues that go along when 687 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: unheused people wants to be treated at the humans. So yeah, 688 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: so I agree with you, like, and when we're looking 689 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: at these issues, that's going to only sharpens is focused 690 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:02,760 Speaker 1: in illumination with the new presidency, the Grands Pass ruling 691 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: and too, like when I mentioned with a couple other 692 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: guests about the realities of climate change, because people are 693 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 1: not really thinking this through, like new disasters like the 694 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: brush fires and people losing homes from mutts, slides and 695 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: disasters North Carolina and in Florida, these things are going 696 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: to play a very big role in how on house 697 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 1: people are and displace people recently are going to deal 698 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: with climate as well as moral apathy or moral cruelty, 699 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: if you will. 700 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, I think it's sort of a double whammy. 701 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,280 Speaker 7: You know Grant's pass and you know the impending doom 702 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,760 Speaker 7: coming with climate change. And I think especially with Grant's pass, 703 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 7: I mean, I think one of the things that's the 704 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 7: most terrific is that's something we can, we can and 705 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 7: should be able to control right away right now. 706 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 5: But that we don't you. 707 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 7: Cannot outlass poverty. I mean, people are going to be poor, 708 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 7: people are not going to have housing. We should be 709 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 7: helping them, not putting even more legal challenges on their plates. 710 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: And mostly sharper to the point is that the fact 711 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: that as soon as Grant's passed undid all of that, 712 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 1: celebrations came out from Governor Newsom Mary London Breed and 713 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: all of them. And in Santa Monica they have now 714 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 1: a ban against unhouse people having a blanket and pillow. 715 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: And the idea is that they just went willy nilly 716 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 1: on trying to outdew each other on the cruelty on 717 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: unhoused people. You know, San Diego is basically just run 718 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: down on unhoused people. In fact, in Elmonte, here that 719 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: unhoused people were targeted and still were being targeted as 720 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: a result of the grants past, they accelerated their sweeping 721 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 1: schedule in order in excited anticipation after this ruling is 722 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 1: it's unleashed to be you know, forty one eighteen was 723 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: the leash with the Martin versus Boise, but that leash 724 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: has been taken off thanks to the six Republicans and 725 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: prove court justices that have allowed this travesty to be 726 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: unleashed on vulnerable people. 727 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 7: And I think, you know, with that happening, I think, well, 728 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 7: first of all, I don't even know if most people 729 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 7: are aware that this has happened. And I'm sure if 730 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 7: it doesn't affect you, you probably don't know about it. 731 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 7: And that's just really unfortunate. I mean, I just I 732 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 7: don't know how you can teach people to care about 733 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 7: other people. And that's just to me, it feels like 734 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 7: such a basic human quality to want to help your neighbor, 735 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 7: to be engaged in community, and it's just really horrific 736 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 7: to me. And so I think that's why we're seeing 737 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 7: a lot of local activation to get our you know, 738 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 7: house neighbors, to help our on house neighbors. And again 739 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 7: it's I think we've got to step back and look 740 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,359 Speaker 7: at the big picture of what are we doing here, 741 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 7: you know. And I've been really disheartened to see this 742 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 7: like sort of shift towards individualism and oh, I'm looking 743 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 7: out for myself and only myself, and you know, if 744 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 7: everybody did that, the world would fall apart. 745 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 1: Well said, I think we covered most of the conversational points. 746 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: Did we miss anything that you wanted to add? 747 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,760 Speaker 7: I just wanted to say I really, once again, I'm 748 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 7: really excited to be a part of CELA. I think 749 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 7: it's a wonderful organization. I also want to, you know, 750 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 7: express that we are constantly learning and evolving and you know, 751 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 7: looking to our participants for their needs. So it's not oh, here, 752 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 7: here's all the stuff we have. 753 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: Take it. 754 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,919 Speaker 7: This is what we think you need. You know, we 755 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,879 Speaker 7: try to take cues from the participants that we work with. 756 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 7: You know, what do you need? Okay, we've got too 757 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 7: much bread, Let's start bringing in something else. You know, 758 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 7: we need more underwear. Let's start getting some more underwear. 759 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 7: And again these are small, just little temporary fixes. But 760 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,720 Speaker 7: I feel, I truly feel if there was a Sela 761 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 7: in every community across the United States, I think it 762 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 7: would just, you know, we would start to see these 763 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 7: kinds of problems start to get fixed. And you know, 764 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,280 Speaker 7: I just want to start to see our governments really 765 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 7: take care of people. And you know, I know a 766 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 7: lot of people are focused on the economy right now, 767 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 7: and the thing is every most every person you're going 768 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 7: to ever interact with, is going to be far closer 769 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 7: to experiencing homelessness than they ever will to be being 770 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 7: a billionaire. So why are we catering to you know, 771 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 7: these wealthy classes who have more than anything they could 772 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 7: ever need for lifetimes, and yet we are struggling to 773 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 7: get people into temporary shelter, let alone even permanent shelter. 774 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 1: Well said, and this is the old Henderson from William House. 775 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 1: We are exploring the mutual a group SILA, and I'm 776 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: hoping the audience is drinking in the conversation and getting 777 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 1: words to think on and ideas to create a better 778 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: world than we left it. Thanks to maybe for her 779 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 1: time because we had so many people to speak where. 780 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: We're going to keep the conversation going with the second 781 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 1: part of our series on Seiler in our next episode. 782 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 1: Before we log off, I want to physically invite you 783 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 1: to not only meet in a light of understanding, but 784 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 1: to attend one of my executive director's shows in the 785 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 1: studio today is the executive director who is going to 786 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: take it away, gonna tell them us what's going on 787 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 1: and what we can look forward to. 788 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 8: Thank you so much, THEO, thanks for having me. Yeah, 789 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,399 Speaker 8: I have my one person show which is called the 790 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 8: tiny man who is trying to kill me, which is 791 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 8: about basically what it sounds like. 792 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 5: It's about. 793 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 8: It's about doll the size of a nickel that is 794 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 8: relentlessly pursuing me. But it is also about making some 795 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,760 Speaker 8: serious stuff funny, talking about sort of grief and loss 796 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,919 Speaker 8: and a very tiny man. 797 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 5: Who's trying to kill me. 798 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 8: And so that's on December fourth in La at the 799 00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:01,720 Speaker 8: Lyric Hyperion. Tickets available when oh you can just find 800 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,720 Speaker 8: them on the Lyric Hyperion's website. I think Lyricyperion dot. 801 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: Com great well, as you have heard it from the 802 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,840 Speaker 1: source itself. Look forward to seeing you there and I 803 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: thank you all again for listening, and as always, please 804 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,839 Speaker 1: like and subscribe, And if you'd like to share your 805 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 1: story on widian House, please reach out to me at 806 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 1: Whidianhouse on Instagram or email me at Wiedianhouse at gmail 807 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 1: dot com. Thank you all again for listening together. We 808 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,720 Speaker 1: will meet again in the light of understanding. 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