Speaker 1: Hello everyone. I'm Devin Simone.
Speaker 2: And I'm Anissa Ferreira and this is MTV's official Challenge podcast.
Speaker 1: Woot woot.
Speaker 2: It was a good episode. O way, you guys missed
Speaker 2: me last week, but I'm back.
Speaker 3: It was a good episode and right on time and
Speaker 3: questionably on time, and it was a good episode. There
Speaker 3: was I was kind of in my feels this episode,
Speaker 3: and there was some good twists.
Speaker 1: What were your thoughts about Anisa.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely started with a lot of like it
Speaker 2: definitely started.
Speaker 1: On the down moment and then and then we just
Speaker 1: kept getting hit with zingers.
Speaker 2: So it was like Ben, you know, getting sick, and
Speaker 2: it sucks getting sick in that environment, but when you're
Speaker 2: really sick and no one knows what's going on, like
Speaker 2: that's scary. And you're and you're so far right with
Speaker 2: limited contact to him, I mean you're like the southernmost point. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then Tristan's sick, and then Amber wasn't feeling well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, have you seen where it's been this miniece, Because
Speaker 3: in the beginning, like you said, it was kind of
Speaker 3: bleak because it was so many people taken down. I
Speaker 3: wonder if they all thought it was maybe the same
Speaker 3: thing at first, or they knew.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they thought it was the same thing, except
Speaker 2: for Amber. Her symptoms were probably different. Sleepy, emotional, yeah, fuck,
Speaker 2: just out of her mind like you.
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know how she did it, but it was
Speaker 2: such a cute surprise. And to know that Amber left
Speaker 2: at the right exact moment for her.
Speaker 3: I mean, such a meaningful moment too, And I can't
Speaker 3: wait to ask her about that and really get into it,
Speaker 3: because this is I think this is like a one
Speaker 3: of all the episodes of the challenge that have happened
Speaker 3: now I'm hundreds. This one is so unique in so
Speaker 3: many ways. It sort of breaks a lot of barriers,
Speaker 3: and it'll be really great to talk to her about that.
Speaker 3: I want to know, Anissa, you know who was your
Speaker 3: queen of the world this week?
Speaker 1: And who do you think was on another planet?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 2: King and queen, I mean there might be two. I
Speaker 2: think Tristan and Kiki killed killed Trivia.
Speaker 1: Yeah they did. It was like thing they didn't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then and then oh you mean Tristan you
Speaker 3: mean Kelly Anne and Tristan no separately?
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, did well?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he keeps hitting me with like because you would
Speaker 2: think like Drell's completely afraid of fights. Who answered all
Speaker 2: the questions. Kiki was killing it and she was definitely
Speaker 2: I think that you know, there's this this continuum for her,
Speaker 2: like with the rings, she was she was sucking it up,
Speaker 2: you know, doing it such a good job that I
Speaker 2: like to always, you know, recognize a queen when we're
Speaker 2: on here. Yeah. But yes, and then Tristan, I mean
Speaker 2: the Vatican City, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would have known that.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about all the places I've been to and
Speaker 2: I'm like, there's got to be a tiny, tiny city somewhere, but.
Speaker 3: Clearly and he was sick on top of that like that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was impressive and key Kekey did nail it.
Speaker 1: She's great.
Speaker 3: I think the only thing Darrell said during that daily
Speaker 3: was help or mama or get me down or something
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: He provided like I don't.
Speaker 2: Want to win on I don't want to come back
Speaker 2: from here basically what he said. No, I think out
Speaker 2: of all things, I mean, being strapped to your partner
Speaker 2: hanging up there isn't too bad.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've actually loved the twist of being able to
Speaker 3: pull the Ripcord there in Kansas City. There actually is
Speaker 3: a ride at this place called Worlds of Fun and
Speaker 3: it was called the Ripcord and I used to want
Speaker 3: to go on it as a kid, and it was
Speaker 3: bungee jumped, like a bungee drop, but you would they'd
Speaker 3: like pull the cord and then you just drop and
Speaker 3: you didn't know what it was going to happen. So
Speaker 3: the idea of it being in your own fate, and
Speaker 3: then the way that you can like kind of owneah,
Speaker 3: kind of in your own faith kind of and kind
Speaker 3: of not right, and that's like like that level of suspense.
Speaker 3: And then the fact that your opponents could vote that
Speaker 3: you had to you know, like pull one too. I
Speaker 3: just love that twist. I also love trivia. It's pretty
Speaker 3: much the only game I feel like nine Confident.
Speaker 2: Had to head about Challenge Trivia. Well, I did, I
Speaker 2: found out one question wrong out of sixty.
Speaker 3: That I mean I got from the questions I was
Speaker 3: paying to Pegisu. The one I didn't get right was
Speaker 3: Vatican City. I hated that they sped it up and
Speaker 3: cut out some of the uessions. My guess is they
Speaker 3: must have been up there a long time, you know
Speaker 3: how like midway through they started just kind of showing
Speaker 3: us the answers.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, who's on another planet? TJ.
Speaker 2: Because there were so many parts to this, you could
Speaker 2: choose this, you could pick your own thing, like either way,
Speaker 2: like somebody was standing in their feelings hurt, and then
Speaker 2: you also were playing Roulette, which is just anxiety.
Speaker 1: It was a lot. It was good.
Speaker 3: I think it was Emily who said, like I studied trivia,
Speaker 3: I've prepared for this. I'm not prepared for Roulette. And
Speaker 3: that's like the whole point of Roulette is you can
Speaker 3: never be prepared for it. I think you might prepare
Speaker 3: for Roulette absolutely. I think my alien my person who's
Speaker 3: on another planet this week?
Speaker 1: Not my alien?
Speaker 3: Yeah, alien, other planet, same thing. Shout out to the
Speaker 3: aliens if they're listening. You know, who would I say
Speaker 3: is on another planet this week? I didn't get you
Speaker 3: know what, Okay, I'm gonna say it. And they didn't
Speaker 3: really do anything wrong, to be fair, they just still
Speaker 3: are kind of rguing me as of late, and we'll
Speaker 3: get into it later. But Danny on another planet this week?
Speaker 1: My possible.
Speaker 2: You know, Danny has his own ideas about what he
Speaker 2: wants to show to be does and he won't wants
Speaker 2: to get out of this thing, and he won't. He's
Speaker 2: really mad until listen, he's Danny wants to win. Danny's irksome,
Speaker 2: and he's thinking that Jordan is Jordan is the only
Speaker 2: thing standing in the way of him and his money.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I'm trying to say if Kiki was his ex
Speaker 2: on there ooh would it be, or if we pick
Speaker 2: anybody else, because you know, I fuss with Kiki.
Speaker 1: I think she's really funny. Yeah, this is no shade.
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, like if the shoe was on
Speaker 2: the other foot with Danny still.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good points. You know, I would love
Speaker 1: to know that's actually a really that's a very good take.
Speaker 3: And he said that's a really good point. There was
Speaker 3: a couple of contenders for King and or Queen of
Speaker 3: the World, believe it or not. One of my contenders,
Speaker 3: And this is so the opposite of when we did
Speaker 3: us a Queen of the World is Sarah, because I
Speaker 3: love that she was able to put aside her feelings
Speaker 3: towards Bin and she'd be like, look, I'm checking on him.
Speaker 3: I want to make sure he's okay, Like so much
Speaker 3: respect for I liked that.
Speaker 2: Side versus what I've seen a last couple of episodes that.
Speaker 1: Get passionate side of Sarah. Yeah, like, I respect that
Speaker 1: so much about Sarah, but I show that we're still humans.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean and honestly, but that's even as a human.
Speaker 3: I mean, it depends on how much I may have
Speaker 3: disliked the person. I mean, I'd like to think I'd
Speaker 3: still check on them, but I mean that's but who knows.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who knows.
Speaker 3: So shout out to Sarah for doing that. And then
Speaker 3: I think the real king and or queen of the
Speaker 3: world is Amber's baby, because Amber's baby was making political
Speaker 3: moves on the challenge without even being born yet. I mean, essentially,
Speaker 3: Amber's baby is the whole dynamic of the game. I
Speaker 3: respect it, like so much respect, and look how far
Speaker 3: they made it in the game. Others so of your
Speaker 3: babes can't say the same. So shout out to Amber's baby.
Speaker 2: And bodies really are incredible. Women's bodies are incredible. Our
Speaker 2: strength and our ability to really like trust our gut
Speaker 2: when some shit is not right all us crazy like
Speaker 2: you always want to, but our guts are pretty damn
Speaker 2: on point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, I'm glad she's really in tune with
Speaker 3: her body on that and shout out to that you
Speaker 3: know that baby and the movie and yeah, I mean no, no, no,
Speaker 3: Like Amber's cool too, but she didn't get the King
Speaker 3: or Queen of the week.
Speaker 1: It's her baby, Okay.
Speaker 3: I just want to clarify, because that the baby's the
Speaker 3: one who made the power move.
Speaker 1: So it's not like Amber's cool and all, maybe run
Speaker 1: her up, but.
Speaker 3: It's it's the baby that gets the title of King
Speaker 3: or Queen of the week this episode. I'm excited though,
Speaker 3: to get to talk to Amber a little bit more
Speaker 3: about what it was like to find out she was
Speaker 3: pregnant on the challenge.
Speaker 1: Can you even imagine? He said, like I know, and.
Speaker 2: Then flying like thirty hours and that phone called a
Speaker 2: Chauncey because I know she was calling him and he
Speaker 2: was so excited and probably got all the cats on FaceTime.
Speaker 2: And if you've watched your Instagram, her cats are just
Speaker 2: all on her belly.
Speaker 1: You just think so cute.
Speaker 3: I'm excited to talk about that and just dive more
Speaker 3: into kind of what she's been up to, because a
Speaker 3: lot has changed in her world in the last you know,
Speaker 3: nine to twelve months. There's a lot that we can learn.
Speaker 3: So I'm really excited for us to dive in and
Speaker 3: have this conversation. And you guys are gonna, i'm sure,
Speaker 3: learn a lot from this too.
Speaker 1: We're also going to.
Speaker 3: Talk about TJ's wardrobe or maybe just do that now,
Speaker 3: shout out to him in the maroon blazer.
Speaker 1: Like ever since.
Speaker 3: TJ came back from that Lord ceremony, he's been wearing jackets.
Speaker 3: Double Agency did well too, he did, and that was
Speaker 3: more of a spy vibe.
Speaker 1: I love the pea coat and the shit.
Speaker 3: There too, But here he's doing blazers and pocket squares
Speaker 3: like okay, okay.
Speaker 2: He's a gentleman. He's seasoned now and he maybe got
Speaker 2: a new stylist.
Speaker 3: It is evolved. I actually send him a DM about it.
Speaker 3: I'm so proud of TJ. Look at you. This episode's
Speaker 3: gonna be great. So don't go anywhere. If you do,
Speaker 3: just take your podcast listening device with you, but grab
Speaker 3: a snack, and when we come back, we have an
Speaker 3: interview with Amber and her baby.
Speaker 1: Well her baby's not born.
Speaker 3: Yet, but but the baby's gonna be there by proxy,
Speaker 3: you know, So stick around and Anissa and I will.
Speaker 1: Be right back after this.
Speaker 3: So excited to have this guest or these guests, shall
Speaker 3: I say on the podcast today, Please welcome Amber and
Speaker 3: her unborn baby.
Speaker 5: Hi, y'all, how are you?
Speaker 1: How are you? How are you feeling well?
Speaker 4: Uh? No, sleeping all the time, and I can like
Speaker 4: barely breathe. I feel like every breath like is my last.
Speaker 4: Besides that, I feel great.
Speaker 1: That's how sleeping.
Speaker 5: Sleeping is awful.
Speaker 4: I have my three cats and Chauncey who like sleep
Speaker 4: peacefully and I just want to.
Speaker 5: Oh it makes me so mad.
Speaker 4: But I enjoy sleeping when I can get it, which
Speaker 4: is usually the end of the day because I'm so.
Speaker 5: Tired, but almost im this is the home.
Speaker 4: Stretch, you know, hopefully I'll I'll get some rest on
Speaker 4: the baby's here.
Speaker 5: That's a joke.
Speaker 2: Also turn into a comedian while you were pregnant, because
Speaker 2: most people, I mean, maybe you'll have like a good baby.
Speaker 1: That sleeps through the night. You never know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with your temperament and Chauncey is I feel like
Speaker 2: maybe you'll wuk out.
Speaker 5: I hope so fingers crossed.
Speaker 3: I mean I feel like you have Chauncey, which is
Speaker 3: a built in night nurse. I feel like Chauncey baby
Speaker 3: and like, yeah, but.
Speaker 1: While the baby was crying, I could see it.
Speaker 5: Chauncey's doing great.
Speaker 4: No, yeah, you know I can see that too. He's
Speaker 4: doing so well. He I feel like he's a little
Speaker 4: more nervous than I am.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: It's just it's just so cute, like some of the things,
Speaker 4: like we've been getting baby clothes and stuff like that,
Speaker 4: and he texted him on the other day he was like.
Speaker 5: Do we need to wash these?
Speaker 4: And what do we need to do? Like he's just
Speaker 4: like he's on top of things and he's been so.
Speaker 5: Like yeah, it's just like the little things.
Speaker 4: But yeah, he's been he said, he's so nervous, but
Speaker 4: he's so excited.
Speaker 5: And yeah, Like I don't know, just watching.
Speaker 4: Him already, just like around my belly, I'm like, I
Speaker 4: can't wait to see you with your child as I
Speaker 4: love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the cats are going to be all over
Speaker 2: it too, because they're already in your belly.
Speaker 1: Like you can see that, they can sense that.
Speaker 2: But what I wanted to know, because you know, we
Speaker 2: watched this episode once you found out you were pregnant,
Speaker 2: I mean we'll talk about before that too.
Speaker 1: Were you allowed to call Chauncey immediately?
Speaker 4: No, So I didn't want to tell him till I
Speaker 4: saw him in person. Okay, yeah, because I didn't want
Speaker 4: to be like, I'm like, this is like my person,
Speaker 4: and I wanted it to be like one of those moments. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, it was eating me up.
Speaker 4: I had to wait like days of flight everything, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, I want to tell him so bad, but
Speaker 4: I waited to tell him in person, which I think
Speaker 4: I like. I like because I got to also process
Speaker 4: everything by myself because it was a huge shock to me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, yeah, I waited to tell him a person.
Speaker 3: How did you tell him when you told him in person?
Speaker 3: Like did you plan out something? Was at the minute
Speaker 3: you got off the plane?
Speaker 1: Like how did you?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 5: I didn't plan out anything.
Speaker 4: I actually waited like a day or so, like when
Speaker 4: I got home, I was like trying to like figure
Speaker 4: out how to even say it. He was at the gym,
Speaker 4: I was at home, and I'm like, okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: just tell him when he gets some So I was like,
Speaker 4: sit down, I need to tell you something. And I
Speaker 4: think he thought I was something yeah, So I had
Speaker 4: his face like just he looked like, oh gosh, like
Speaker 4: this is bad news. And when I told him, like
Speaker 4: he just his mouth held on the floor like he
Speaker 4: but he smiled.
Speaker 5: He hugged me like.
Speaker 4: He was just so happy because we both like we've
Speaker 4: talked about kids, like and I know he's always wanted
Speaker 4: children and he's just my person, like you know, and
Speaker 4: I love him so much and I feel like the
Speaker 4: feeling's mutual.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I'll see the feelings. It's going to
Speaker 1: be girls are going to be great parents.
Speaker 2: But see, Chauncey has like such a childlike side, like
Speaker 2: he's so silly and he's so funny.
Speaker 1: He'll be a great dad, I know.
Speaker 2: But I really want to know when Ben and Tristan
Speaker 2: were on their deathbeds, they felt like, shit, did you
Speaker 2: think initially you had what they had?
Speaker 5: One hundred percent. I thought I had what they had
Speaker 5: because me and.
Speaker 4: Darrell and I were you know, let me tell you,
Speaker 4: I think I had what they had.
Speaker 5: On top of being pregnant.
Speaker 4: It was like diary out the but we are throwing up,
Speaker 4: had a fever, our vitals just were off and was
Speaker 4: everybody Yeah it was I have no idea like what
Speaker 4: was going on with my body? And I've been able
Speaker 4: to do things in the past sick. I feel like
Speaker 4: every season I'm somewhat sick, you know. So I'm like,
Speaker 4: I can push through and get this. I was not
Speaker 4: getting better. So when I felt like I wasn't getting
Speaker 4: better and I felt not just all the time I
Speaker 4: didn't have an appetite, I was like, there's no way
Speaker 4: I can and I have a partner, you know. I
Speaker 4: feel like like that's what bothered me. I was like,
Speaker 4: I want to give this. Troy was amazing, Like I
Speaker 4: couldn't have asked for a better partner, and I wanted
Speaker 4: to give him one hundred percent, Like I wanted to
Speaker 4: give my all and I couldn't even do that, and
Speaker 4: I felt so bad.
Speaker 3: So at what point did you start thinking about going home?
Speaker 3: And like what was the process? Who did you first
Speaker 3: share this inclination with? Like at what point did you
Speaker 3: start thinking, Okay, I'm not getting better, I may have
Speaker 3: to pull myself out of this game.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I remember at one point talking to to Jody like
Speaker 4: and just being like what she was just aroused, Like
Speaker 4: I need to talk to you. She's just things like,
Speaker 4: you know, just her and Kelly An. I remember talking
Speaker 4: to them at one point and being like, I don't know.
Speaker 4: And it was on my way to the actually challenge
Speaker 4: that day, and I was like, in my head, I
Speaker 4: was like, and if Tristan leaves, maybe this is an
Speaker 4: opportunity for my partner to at least have Kelly Inn,
Speaker 4: you know, And in my mind and I'm already planning
Speaker 4: it out, and I'm like, because I was like, I
Speaker 4: don't know how, Like, I just want my partner to
Speaker 4: be able to stay in the game. That's all I
Speaker 4: cared about, right. If he wasn't able to stay in
Speaker 4: the game, I was just gonna wing it, give my all,
Speaker 4: just you know, do what I had to do to.
Speaker 3: Stay go until the wheels fell off, right exactly, because
Speaker 3: I thought that Ben was possibly gonna, you know, pop
Speaker 3: back up.
Speaker 4: You never know in this game, Like he could have
Speaker 4: just popped up at the challenge.
Speaker 3: Okay, So you guys didn't know that Ben was officially out.
Speaker 3: You didn't know. You thought, Okay, Ben's gonna still come back.
Speaker 3: Did you start hinting to any of the producers at
Speaker 3: that point when you're driving to the challenge and you're
Speaker 3: kind of really thinking like, look, maybe this is an
Speaker 3: opportunity or was it really in that moment when we
Speaker 3: see TJ's announce, you know, Ben's not coming back, so unfortunately, Casey, like,
Speaker 3: was that the moment you first hold absolutely anyone or
Speaker 3: had you cleared it with producers beforehand?
Speaker 4: No, because I didn't know what my I remember talking
Speaker 4: to Sky at one point and just being like, I
Speaker 4: do not feel well at all. She's the only one
Speaker 4: I kind of opened up to about how I was feeling,
Speaker 4: and but I just didn't know what I was gonna
Speaker 4: do if I like I watched myself on this episode
Speaker 4: and I was like, do I stay?
Speaker 5: Go I go? Do I stay?
Speaker 4: Do I go? I was like in my head, just
Speaker 4: like because this was the only chance I got because
Speaker 4: once I feel like, you know, like if Tristan.
Speaker 5: Was going to leave, that was my chance to go
Speaker 5: right right.
Speaker 4: So I had And then when I when I heard
Speaker 4: Casey or Ben wasn't coming back, I'm like, wow, this.
Speaker 5: Is my chance to also, like, I have more than
Speaker 5: one option.
Speaker 4: So I was like, if if anything, I want to
Speaker 4: give my partner an amazing partner, which would have been
Speaker 4: great if he had Kellyan or Casey. So with that said,
Speaker 4: I was just once I heard that Ben wasn't coming back,
Speaker 4: I literally had to like make a decision in that moment,
Speaker 4: and I just decided to leave, which actually, I that
Speaker 4: hurt me so much because I was actually enjoying the season.
Speaker 5: I felt like I had friends, I was having.
Speaker 1: Fun is important to.
Speaker 5: Yeah the most.
Speaker 4: And I like, I listened to my body, Like I
Speaker 4: was just like, I've been sick, but i've I was
Speaker 4: just listen to your body. And then yeah, and I
Speaker 4: found out after I.
Speaker 3: Was like, so did you who made you take the pregnancy? Well,
Speaker 3: actually have two questions before we get to that, and
Speaker 3: you find out after how long did it take for
Speaker 3: TJ to actually sign off and say okay? Because that's
Speaker 3: I don't know that we've really seen moves like this
Speaker 3: in the game, which, by the way, did you ever
Speaker 3: expect expect that you, your young child would become such
Speaker 3: a you know, political powerhouse in the challenge at such
Speaker 3: an age in making these game moves? That was a
Speaker 3: huge move, like a very very very huge move that your.
Speaker 1: Baby just made.
Speaker 3: And how long did it take for TJ really to
Speaker 3: say like okay? Because I'd imagine the producers were kind
Speaker 3: of shocked, and TJ was kind of shocked, like, you know,
Speaker 3: what what do we do with this?
Speaker 4: No, TJ was very like like that was my thing too.
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't I don't ever like giving up.
Speaker 5: I like to just push myself.
Speaker 4: And I was like when I was about to say,
Speaker 4: I was like, he's gonna make me, He's gonna be
Speaker 4: so mad at me.
Speaker 5: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: But the fact that I think that me too. Maybe
Speaker 4: just opening up about how it was feeling all week
Speaker 4: and just kind of like putting it out there beforehand.
Speaker 4: Maybe he was a little like more like okay.
Speaker 5: Like I get it.
Speaker 4: But he he stood there for a minute, and I
Speaker 4: think he saw that. Of course, Casey and I, like
Speaker 4: you said, both wanted to be there. But since it
Speaker 4: since I was giving you know, since I felt like
Speaker 4: Troy was not leaving, I felt I don't know, I
Speaker 4: felt like it was just the okay, was it was fine,
Speaker 4: Like that was just like my okay, Like it wasn't
Speaker 4: like I was I was hurting someone else's game. Maybe
Speaker 4: after that move was you know, made it a little tougher, probably,
Speaker 4: But yeah, TJ was cool, he was cool about it,
Speaker 4: and I was happy that he didn't get that mad
Speaker 4: at me. He didn't get mad at me for walking away.
Speaker 2: No one can be mad at you for being pregnant. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna go take care of myself.
Speaker 4: Well that yeah, yeah I didn't know, but just how sick.
Speaker 4: But yeah, also just for a lot of people I
Speaker 4: didn't know. Yeah, a lot of people were sick that week.
Speaker 4: So I think it was just one of those things
Speaker 4: where it's just like if you can't do it, like
Speaker 4: I understand, because.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's only so far you can go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at what point did you decide to take a
Speaker 3: pregnancy test then, Because at this point, at any point in
Speaker 3: your mind that you're getting sick, is it registering to
Speaker 3: you like there's a chance I could be pregnant or
Speaker 3: like did that have to be brought to your tension somehow?
Speaker 3: Like how did you decide let me just go ahead
Speaker 3: and take this pregnancy test?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 4: So I was in the hotel room for like a
Speaker 4: day or two, and I was like, listen, I don't
Speaker 4: I'm not getting better if anything, Like, if I'm gonna fly,
Speaker 4: I want to make sure I don't have something that
Speaker 4: I'm people can catch on the airplane.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: So I was like, I want to see a doctor.
Speaker 4: And I did get like a to make this. Like
Speaker 4: I said, I was talking bananas all this, but I
Speaker 4: was just like, there's not been too too much information.
Speaker 4: But I was like, I had a period before I came,
Speaker 4: which I know what I thought was a period, so
Speaker 4: I have like a like a calculator or whatever. But
Speaker 4: it wasn't as long as mine usually are and how
Speaker 4: they usually are.
Speaker 5: So when I saw a doctor, she was.
Speaker 4: Just like, well, maybe it's not a period. It could
Speaker 4: have been this and that, like you know, blah blah
Speaker 4: blah blah. And I was like, Okay, my period was
Speaker 4: only like two days. I was like, it's usually like seven.
Speaker 1: I forgot about that.
Speaker 4: Oh my god. They're awful. Thank god I haven't had
Speaker 4: to have one in a while, but right because they
Speaker 4: are brutal. But no, I was just like I asked her.
Speaker 4: I was like, hey, can I like just take a
Speaker 4: pregnancy test because I have I should have already.
Speaker 5: Gotten my period.
Speaker 4: I'm guessing like I don't know, and I had one
Speaker 4: last month, but she was like, maybe it's stretched.
Speaker 5: She'd tell me. She was like, this happens in the game.
Speaker 4: It could be stressed. You're in a different country around
Speaker 4: differ people. I'm like, okay, So I wasn't going to
Speaker 4: do it, and then she was just like, we could
Speaker 4: do just a year and one right here. I was like, okay,
Speaker 4: just to make sure you know what I mean, I'm
Speaker 4: not you know, I don't know, like whatever. So I
Speaker 4: sat there. She was just like, okay, go peen in
Speaker 4: this cup. So I went peed in a cup and
Speaker 4: she was like, leave it in the bathroom. She walked
Speaker 4: in there with a pregnancy test and then she comes out,
Speaker 4: she grabs another one.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't know if that's a good snap.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: Then she walks in there and she does another one.
Speaker 4: She comes out and I'm in this hotel room with
Speaker 4: this woman I just met and she tells me I'm pregnant,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I like, I just like took a breath.
Speaker 4: I started crying. We hugged because I didn't know how
Speaker 4: to process it. Like I was just like happy but
Speaker 4: the same but at the same time, I'm like I
Speaker 4: was just worried because you know, I didn't know. I
Speaker 4: didn't know what to hell Chauncey was going to fill.
Speaker 5: I didn't know how the whole thing. You know, I
Speaker 5: didn't I didn't know. I didn't know how far along
Speaker 5: I was. Yeah, so, but no, I I was.
Speaker 4: I was just nervous and I was excited.
Speaker 5: There were so many emotions.
Speaker 1: My mind would be racing.
Speaker 4: I'm a litterate in my mind so much.
Speaker 2: But what's crazy is I heard about this happening and
Speaker 2: they were like, well left, and I'm like seeing it.
Speaker 5: Was like.
Speaker 2: Then I totally understood it, because when you hear that,
Speaker 2: like you don't know what's going on. But I also
Speaker 2: didn't know you were pregnant, so I was like, damn,
Speaker 2: these people must have been really fucking sick, all right,
Speaker 2: but you did the right thing for yourself. And then
Speaker 2: like the stars totally aligned. I mean, maybe now Casey
Speaker 2: and trist And have a target on their back, but.
Speaker 1: Maybe Casey and Troy, I mean Casey and Troy my bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what I meant.
Speaker 2: But you know what, like you get you got a gift,
Speaker 2: and then you gave them a gift, you know. So
Speaker 2: I feel like it was a really special moment that
Speaker 2: we don't get to see. I feel like there are
Speaker 2: still a human moments on the challenge that are still
Speaker 2: like happening like little bursts of light that it was
Speaker 2: so beautiful.
Speaker 1: So I'm happy and multiple layers. I'm happy that they
Speaker 1: got to show.
Speaker 3: I thought it was beautiful too, because there was you
Speaker 3: were giving the gift to your partner just the way
Speaker 3: and especially knowing that you didn't even know in that
Speaker 3: moment yet you were pregnant, right, Because I do feel
Speaker 3: like it might be easier to make none of it's
Speaker 3: an easy decision, but easier to make that decision if
Speaker 3: you had known, right like I knew you were pregnant.
Speaker 3: You're like, well, obviously I want to dip out because
Speaker 3: I want to protect my child, you know, or whatever
Speaker 3: health and babied all that, but you didn't know that
Speaker 3: at that point.
Speaker 1: You just knew you didn't feel well.
Speaker 3: And so seeing you, though, make such a selfless act
Speaker 3: of I want to really, like a lot of people say, oh,
Speaker 3: I support my partner blah blah blah blah. You know,
Speaker 3: we had Ride or Dies last season, which is all
Speaker 3: about partnership, and here you're like, no, I want I
Speaker 3: want my partner to win. I want him to thrive,
Speaker 3: and I don't think I can be that for him.
Speaker 3: Here's an opportunity, like seeing you just so selfishly, selfishly
Speaker 3: give that moment, and it was such a beautiful moment.
Speaker 3: And then on top of that, to then find out
Speaker 3: this other beautiful gift in the form of your baby
Speaker 3: just made this a really, really, really special We go
Speaker 3: to the scene right where you're sitting next to Troy
Speaker 3: in the interview and you're You're like, oh, I have
Speaker 3: something to tell you. How soon was that? Did you
Speaker 3: guys have that moment after you bowing out of the game,
Speaker 3: Like was that days later, weeks later, hours later?
Speaker 5: It was like days later?
Speaker 4: So I left, well, I left, I was in the
Speaker 4: hotel for a couple of days maybe it was like
Speaker 4: it was honestly, maybe like a day or two after
Speaker 4: I found out.
Speaker 5: I was pregnant.
Speaker 4: I had my last interview, and I haven't seen Troy
Speaker 4: since I walked away from him. So we came together
Speaker 4: for like our group interview, and it was so cute.
Speaker 4: Is if you notice, like I was wearing like pink
Speaker 4: and like this blue, but I didn't even pay attention
Speaker 4: to that, like this top.
Speaker 5: And then Troy shows up in blue.
Speaker 4: And we didn't even play. It wasn't even a plant.
Speaker 4: So it was like it was really funny. But when
Speaker 4: I when I got there, I was like the producer,
Speaker 4: no one even knew, Like.
Speaker 1: My users didn't know, no one knew.
Speaker 5: So do I share this? Do I know?
Speaker 4: So I brought the pregnancy test with me just in case.
Speaker 4: I felt like just like being like.
Speaker 5: Listen, this is this is what it is.
Speaker 4: And so at the very end of the interview, after
Speaker 4: just sitting there in my mind just racing the whole interview,
Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, I'm just gonna tell I'm just gonna
Speaker 4: just put it out there because you know. So I
Speaker 4: sat there and I remember telling Troy, and I felt
Speaker 4: like I was telling like Chaunty.
Speaker 5: I felt like he was my baby daddy. I felt like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I was like, you know.
Speaker 4: In that moment, I'm like, wow, I'm practicing right now
Speaker 4: from when I tell Chauncey.
Speaker 5: But I remember telling.
Speaker 4: Him and it was just like he the amount.
Speaker 5: Of love that Troy just had for me.
Speaker 4: And just respect and just that that I don't know,
Speaker 4: the attitude, like I just loved him so much in
Speaker 4: that moment for just like because I I didn't he
Speaker 4: was the only one I had told like he went
Speaker 4: and the fact that he kept it to himself. No
Speaker 4: one else knew about it afterwards, Like I have so
Speaker 4: much respect for that, for that guy, like he is
Speaker 4: just an amazing person. But yeah, I told him right after,
Speaker 4: and uh, I I don't know. It was just like
Speaker 4: I wanted to tell someone I didn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, of.
Speaker 3: Course, I know by the way, when you were like,
Speaker 3: I didn't pee on the stick, Like you're like, I.
Speaker 5: Didn't on it.
Speaker 1: Okay, it was just a beautiful moment. He did it there,
Speaker 1: because that was like him, there has to be painful.
Speaker 1: It's just not.
Speaker 5: I think about that. I'm a little slow.
Speaker 1: No, it was so funny. I was like, didn't give
Speaker 1: a ship. It was just like, yeah, no he did.
Speaker 5: He was so grab it. Yeah, he was amazing.
Speaker 2: I mean when you got home, were you like, damn,
Speaker 2: I missed the challenge or were you like, wow, I
Speaker 2: got this baby and this is my main focus.
Speaker 5: You know what.
Speaker 4: I did really miss it, just because, like I said before,
Speaker 4: it was like it's been so far like the way
Speaker 4: things are going with my favorite the season I've been
Speaker 4: on that when it comes to like friends and relationships
Speaker 4: and just feeling welcomed in the game.
Speaker 5: So I did not.
Speaker 4: Want to leave and then when I got home, I
Speaker 4: was so bummed, But it was like kind of bittersweet,
Speaker 4: you know, because I do want to break. It was
Speaker 4: I think it's time. It was time for me to
Speaker 4: take a break. I was like, this couldn't have been
Speaker 4: coming at a perfect moment. So but I feel like
Speaker 4: I won an end because I did make friends and
Speaker 4: I had there were people who like made me feel
Speaker 4: good about being there and welcomed and just like loved
Speaker 4: and so yeah, I feel like I couldn't like at
Speaker 4: the same time, it was it was a good way to.
Speaker 5: End the season for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, even if I didn't get a win, it was
Speaker 4: it was a good way for me to like end
Speaker 4: just knowing that I felt what I felt walking away
Speaker 4: and how I felt walking away. So yeah, I'm bump,
Speaker 4: but I will you know, it's not the last of me.
Speaker 5: I'm going to be back up.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, is a political power player in the challenge. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: we need to take a quick break.
Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back after this. You
Speaker 2: also shared a lot this time. I know that we
Speaker 2: talked like during our reunion, and you open up about
Speaker 2: a lot of things. But I feel like there were
Speaker 2: some people you trusted in the house to talk about
Speaker 2: like opening up about autism and everything else. How did
Speaker 2: you even go about like discussing this with with people
Speaker 2: in the house.
Speaker 5: And they in the game.
Speaker 4: You know, I didn't it was making a huge deal
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 5: I just know, Yeah, there was like a handful that
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 4: You know, I was open up because I had just
Speaker 4: like gotten my final diagnosi like a week before I
Speaker 4: came on, and I was just like, I'm so like
Speaker 4: I felt finding like free and relieve, knowing that when
Speaker 4: people made me feel like there was something wrong with me,
Speaker 4: knowing that there was nothing wrong with me.
Speaker 5: So I felt more part of the game.
Speaker 4: Like I didn't feel like I had to like kind
Speaker 4: of like hide out, I do anything I could be
Speaker 4: open about it. Yeah, And so I was just like
Speaker 4: for me, I didn't know if I wanted to be
Speaker 4: open about it in.
Speaker 5: The game or not.
Speaker 4: So I remember talking to people being like I don't
Speaker 4: know if I should talk about this. I don't know
Speaker 4: if I should kind of keep it to myself. So
Speaker 4: I did open up and just ask a few people
Speaker 4: and talk to a few people, And it's just so
Speaker 4: nice to have like conversations in there that aren't related
Speaker 4: to the game, and kind of because it was so
Speaker 4: new to me to where I'm like, I wanted to
Speaker 4: talk about it, I wanted to get information, and I
Speaker 4: wanted to learn more about it, and you.
Speaker 5: Couldn't really do that.
Speaker 4: I couldn't. I couldn't do that in the game. So
Speaker 4: just having like those handful of trusted people made me
Speaker 4: feel good about, you know, just being there so that way,
Speaker 4: like I I was just like, yeah, I'm embracing this
Speaker 4: this person and this me.
Speaker 5: That's a new me, but it's always been me. I'm
Speaker 5: trying to understand.
Speaker 4: But no, I I it made me get out of
Speaker 4: my room more. It made me kind of like process
Speaker 4: things differently and like understand myself in the game. Like
Speaker 4: it's it's just a really weird I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, No, I totally, I totally get it.
Speaker 2: As you know, like I suffer from like panic disorder
Speaker 2: and anxiety and things like that. So going in the house,
Speaker 2: I'm like always in my head about like, am I
Speaker 2: doing this right to talk too much?
Speaker 1: Do people think?
Speaker 2: I'm like, I go, you know, a lot of us
Speaker 2: are are thinking that we are doing these things that
Speaker 2: no one else really notices. But yes, yeah, but I
Speaker 2: think over the past couple of years, you know, it's
Speaker 2: been great for people to like open up about their
Speaker 2: mental health and everything else, because it's not like we're
Speaker 2: a bunch of aliens. Like there are people that are
Speaker 2: going through It might not be the same thing that
Speaker 2: you're going through, but under that umbrella are still dealing
Speaker 2: with relatable things. So it's like to see somebody on
Speaker 2: this platform still doing things and thriving in these really
Speaker 2: intense situations is so give so many people so much hope,
Speaker 2: you know, And that's why I'm always because it forced
Speaker 2: me to kind of like like buck up and do
Speaker 2: shit that I wouldn't have done. I would have just
Speaker 2: like been like, no, I'm not going to do it
Speaker 2: and then shy away from it. But it really forces
Speaker 2: you to like be uncomfortable and like fight through it,
Speaker 2: and it ends up being like exposure therapy, if you will, exactly.
Speaker 2: Sometimes though it's like makes us really anxious, it can
Speaker 2: be really helpful. So I'm glad that you felt safe
Speaker 2: enough to talk to people there. And you know, that's
Speaker 2: a lot to get that kind of diagnosed. I know
Speaker 2: it's probably relieving for you, but also like I have
Speaker 2: a week to process this and then go on a
Speaker 2: show rather right, Yeah.
Speaker 4: And I like and that's what I'm saying, even doing
Speaker 4: like interviews and stuff after and it's just like I'm
Speaker 4: still learning about all of this, and like I.
Speaker 5: Want to say the right things.
Speaker 4: I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings or like you know,
Speaker 4: I don't like I want to be careful with also
Speaker 4: what I say, not being so educated yet on it.
Speaker 5: So that was another thing.
Speaker 4: It's just like I want to open up and I
Speaker 4: want to share like these parts of me, but at
Speaker 4: the same time, I'm still learning these parts of me
Speaker 4: because there are It's it's like, especially if you have
Speaker 4: the platform to to do that to where you can
Speaker 4: be a voice for others or just like help you
Speaker 4: know out there someone might need to hear that or
Speaker 4: they I've had people reach out to me be like
Speaker 4: I'm a twenty seven year old woman and I've been
Speaker 4: diagnosed and I'm so afraid to share my story because
Speaker 4: of you know, abc D whatever.
Speaker 5: But now I feel more comfortable.
Speaker 4: It makes me feel good knowing that like me kind
Speaker 4: of just just throwing myself out there, putting it out
Speaker 4: there and just being okay with finally who I am is.
Speaker 4: Also it turned into more of a positive thing when
Speaker 4: I thought it was going to be something so negative.
Speaker 3: So anytime I think people can live in their authentic truth,
Speaker 3: like when we look at some of the like sort
Speaker 3: of bad things that happen in the world, or the
Speaker 3: struggles or people kind of like lashing out or acting out,
Speaker 3: oftentimes when you get to the root cause it's because
Speaker 3: that person felt like they couldn't they either didn't know
Speaker 3: themselves or they couldn't really be themselves authentically right, like
Speaker 3: they were worried they'd be judged or maybe they had
Speaker 3: been judged in all these things.
Speaker 1: And so I think.
Speaker 3: Regardless of whatever differences anyone has, it's like it's always
Speaker 3: a win when you can kind of when you just
Speaker 3: feel like there's the space to truly be who you
Speaker 3: are and both explore that and express that. Also done
Speaker 3: such a great job. I know you say you're still learning,
Speaker 3: but in really kind of educating other people. I think
Speaker 3: there was something you had posted on your Twitter, I
Speaker 3: think where you talked about how like being on the
Speaker 3: spectrum isn't linear in the way that so many of
Speaker 3: us think that it's linear where it's not like you're
Speaker 3: more you're.
Speaker 1: Hotter, you're cold.
Speaker 3: It's more like you have a little bit of this
Speaker 3: and a little bit of that and a little bit
Speaker 3: of this, and that makes up your own rest secret recipe,
Speaker 3: right right, what that looks like for you?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: And that was even just so insightful and something that like,
Speaker 3: I feel like so many people don't know how in
Speaker 3: the last year you've gone through significant change. And then
Speaker 3: we'll tap into your superpowers of any predictions you have
Speaker 3: for the game and thoughts of kind of play now
Speaker 3: that you stepped out, But how you know you've gone
Speaker 3: through so.
Speaker 1: Much, a new baby on the way with.
Speaker 3: Your significant other Chauncey p Jordan, as well as this diagnosis.
Speaker 1: You know, what have.
Speaker 3: Been some of the lesson like maybe one or two
Speaker 3: of the greatest lessons you've learned now in that in
Speaker 3: the last year, given all of.
Speaker 5: These lessons, Oh, I don't even.
Speaker 1: Know, you know.
Speaker 4: For me, I think personally like I can just like put.
Speaker 5: This out there.
Speaker 4: I feel more now myself than I've ever felt. I
Speaker 4: feel extremely I like I haven't been this happy in
Speaker 4: a long time. And I think if if anything, like
Speaker 4: I was trying to.
Speaker 5: I don't even know how to put this.
Speaker 4: I was trying to be someone else to make others
Speaker 4: feel comfortable when I felt so uncomfortable. And if there
Speaker 4: was a lesson I could like that I've taught myself
Speaker 4: is to just fuck everyone else absolutely, like like I
Speaker 4: finally like, yeah, I get to say that, like I
Speaker 4: don't care what anyone thinks anymore.
Speaker 5: I don't. I'm I'm one of these people.
Speaker 4: That just care way too much how someone else feels,
Speaker 4: how they think, like people please their Like I just
Speaker 4: want everyone to just be happy and feel you know this,
Speaker 4: I'm happy if someone else is happy, but like me,
Speaker 4: my unhappiness and me feeling the way I felt the
Speaker 4: past while for the longest time, and it's not even
Speaker 4: in the game, just even in real life, you know,
Speaker 4: it wasn't okay. Uh so, yeah, like I just have
Speaker 4: to sit, you know, put both middle fingers up and
Speaker 4: say fuck all, y'all.
Speaker 5: I felt so if I hadn't lacted one lesson and
Speaker 5: something it was, it's just to kind of like not
Speaker 5: care so much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's the one thing I can I can
Speaker 4: put out there, because I think I was putting way
Speaker 4: too much on myself and then also like reading too
Speaker 4: much into things that I shouldn't. Like, I'm also at
Speaker 4: fault about doing things that just weren't It was just unnecessary.
Speaker 4: It was just like like I'm too in my mind, you.
Speaker 3: Know, right, And the truth of it is is that
Speaker 3: just those who care don't matter, and those who matter
Speaker 3: don't care.
Speaker 1: Right, Like guys who love you, chaunce.
Speaker 3: P Jordan, you could do pretty much anything, and that man,
Speaker 3: love the heck got to you. Your friends and family love,
Speaker 3: and even a lot of people who watch the show
Speaker 3: love and adore you, and so they don't care, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, like be you. They love you
Speaker 3: for that. And then the ones that want to critique
Speaker 3: everything or think they know things about you even though
Speaker 3: they don't truly know you, like they don't matter anyway.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, And I had to, like I really
Speaker 4: had to learn that. And I'm like sitting there looking
Speaker 4: at myself like I'm in my mid thirties and I'm
Speaker 4: gonna learn that like this late in life. Like I'm
Speaker 4: happy I finally learned, but I wish the younger me
Speaker 4: would have learned that way like you, like so long ago,
Speaker 4: and I feel like life might have been a little
Speaker 4: easier for me. But yeah, I'm happy I know that
Speaker 4: now because it's something I've kind of.
Speaker 5: Like implanted into my everyday life.
Speaker 4: And life just seems easier, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's so weird.
Speaker 4: I'm like, Wow, what a relief, Like I should have
Speaker 4: been doing this a long time ago, but yeah, life
Speaker 4: just seems easier. But I am thankful for relationships that
Speaker 4: have came out of this. And I do love the game,
Speaker 4: like I don't ever want something to make me walk away.
Speaker 5: I love it so much.
Speaker 4: I love traveling, I love the challenges, the politics and
Speaker 4: the social part of it are there. It's a little hard,
Speaker 4: but other than that, like I like to compete and
Speaker 4: I like to you know, I enjoy the little dysfunctional
Speaker 4: family that we all do have. But yeah, I am.
Speaker 3: You said life has gotten easier in experiencing like now
Speaker 3: that you know these things about yourself, a place where
Speaker 3: life didn't get easier in you having these revelations, mainly
Speaker 3: you being pregnant and leaving the game would be the
Speaker 3: challenge house because you sort of caused whether intentional or not.
Speaker 3: You definitely I think had some people shaken in their
Speaker 3: boots when you created the Super pairing of basically double
Speaker 3: champion team and Troy right together. When you watched this
Speaker 3: episode and you watched it play out, you know what,
Speaker 3: were you surprised to see how people started kind of
Speaker 3: targeting them?
Speaker 1: Yeah? What were your what were your thoughts when you
Speaker 1: watch that pairing?
Speaker 5: That was? It was?
Speaker 4: It did cross my mind in my head, I'm like,
Speaker 4: but at the same time, like I already knew the
Speaker 4: badass Casey was. You know, she's like and how so
Speaker 4: great she is at the game.
Speaker 5: So and also knowing Troy, he might.
Speaker 4: Be tiny, but he is so mighty and he is
Speaker 4: great at everything. So I was like, that is that
Speaker 4: is a team you have to watch out or so
Speaker 4: I felt like walking away. Even if they did have
Speaker 4: their backs against the wall or the whole house against them,
Speaker 4: they were still gonna do great. But I, you know,
Speaker 4: I just I'm kind of nervous though. Yeah, I didn't
Speaker 4: expect and I don't I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 4: what to think about this. And my thing is is
Speaker 4: like I just wanted I just wanted my partner to
Speaker 4: have a partner.
Speaker 2: Something like I'm pregnant, y'all, like bye, And then it's
Speaker 2: like you dropped a bomb walked away, which was totally
Speaker 2: cool because like it was unintentional, so unintentional. But now,
Speaker 2: like you know, like I said before, you gave them
Speaker 2: this gift. Now let's see what they could do with it.
Speaker 2: I'm excited to watch what they get.
Speaker 5: Me too.
Speaker 3: I am giving the Challenge twist we didn't know we needed,
Speaker 3: like like the Challenge Baby edition. You know, like when
Speaker 3: Rider dies, there was a twist where you got like
Speaker 3: one partner would go and we didn't know that they
Speaker 3: were coming. They were still hanging around and came back.
Speaker 3: And when Anissa still never forget I'm right it. I
Speaker 3: was when she did her like slow walk intro in
Speaker 3: in her head and like such a cool g when
Speaker 3: you walked in as a surprise, like coming into the game.
Speaker 1: It's hilarious.
Speaker 3: But this was the twist and the thing we didn't
Speaker 3: know that we needed that really is going to shake
Speaker 3: up the house. If you could have given them advice
Speaker 3: for the rest of this season, this new pairing that
Speaker 3: you made. What advice would you give Troy and Casey
Speaker 3: as a team.
Speaker 5: I will just take a look.
Speaker 4: I have no miss girl, I would have no advice
Speaker 4: to give them because I don't know, like being just
Speaker 4: being in the game. Like, I don't know what advice
Speaker 4: to give those two, Like I feel like they're already
Speaker 4: good at the game, so you know, if they've made
Speaker 4: it to finals, they both won. What advice can I
Speaker 4: give two people like that like that are just know
Speaker 4: how to play the game and play it so well
Speaker 4: and have won a final, can make it to finals
Speaker 4: and are just great.
Speaker 3: Now you underestimating yourself again, man, multiple not the people
Speaker 3: that are still there not anything about it. I mean
Speaker 3: I get that, but Troy is new to the American version.
Speaker 3: Still the experience Amber has one thousand.
Speaker 4: I just I mean I could probably give Troy advice,
Speaker 4: but like and if anything.
Speaker 5: Like you know, Troy, My thing was Troy.
Speaker 4: He was he kind of he made me and then
Speaker 4: we're kind of like the same person because he was
Speaker 4: a little soft, smoking, quiet, didn't like to shake up
Speaker 4: the house, didn't want to speak out, so us being
Speaker 4: paired together, I was having to do like, Okay, fine, I'm.
Speaker 5: Going to vote you in. You're going to go in
Speaker 5: to that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I I if anything, I wish I could
Speaker 4: kind of like rub that off on him, which I
Speaker 4: think Kelly Ann kind of rubbed off on me, like
Speaker 4: I feel like I kind of channeled my inner Kelly
Speaker 4: Anne this season.
Speaker 1: It is wild whole thing.
Speaker 2: Everybody is really I don't know where to go with
Speaker 2: this game, so it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 1: I feel like it.
Speaker 4: Doesn't and anything can change, like because everyone. The thing
Speaker 4: is is you're working with people that are on different
Speaker 4: other teams.
Speaker 5: Like I went in the sea in with you.
Speaker 4: Know, me and Casey having like kind of like a
Speaker 4: clean slate and walking in and just being like being
Speaker 4: on a good page. And I don't think people expected that.
Speaker 4: So people kind of sometimes we're trying to turn us
Speaker 4: against each other and just because they thought that we
Speaker 4: still had like this this beef or like whatever, this
Speaker 4: this weird thing going on.
Speaker 5: So people would come and talk.
Speaker 4: To me about Casey and wanting to go say, wanting
Speaker 4: to say Casey's name, and I'm like, I cannot do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's cool to hear that you guys were
Speaker 3: able to kind of like come back together.
Speaker 1: And you know, do you feel like.
Speaker 3: Some of the people that maybe there was friction in
Speaker 3: the past misunderstanding do you feel like most of those
Speaker 3: relationships have thought since you know, there's been this sort
Speaker 3: of better understanding of you and your superpowers and who
Speaker 3: you are and.
Speaker 1: What that looks like.
Speaker 6: Well, you know a lot of people that know this
Speaker 6: season that I that I was you know, on the
Speaker 6: spectrum at all or had out that was it not
Speaker 6: even I don't even think Casey.
Speaker 4: Like I didn't really I didn't really talk about it
Speaker 4: like that. I'd probably have said something like once or twice,
Speaker 4: just like us just having conversations in the room without cameras.
Speaker 4: It was kind of like, you know, like this isn't that,
Speaker 4: but I feel like going into it, it's one of
Speaker 4: those things where it was a new game, it was
Speaker 4: something different.
Speaker 5: It was you know, it wasn't the flagship show like
Speaker 5: see you know a flagship.
Speaker 4: Where we It was just like this is going to
Speaker 4: be unfamiliar, Like what are we walking into.
Speaker 5: We didn't know what to expect.
Speaker 4: So it's like you kind of just kind of have
Speaker 4: to if you want to make it to the dinner
Speaker 4: as far as you can kind of just leave the
Speaker 4: bullshit at the door and kind of move forward. And
Speaker 4: so I think this was this season, especially with Kasey
Speaker 4: and I was kind of one of those things like
Speaker 4: it made me really just be like, let's see if
Speaker 4: we can trust each other, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It was kind of like our like are like all right,
Speaker 4: like we're doing this and let's see, let's see.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: I'm happy Branch.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and Mabby.
Speaker 4: Didn't have to get to the point where it got
Speaker 4: like ugly or like I had to say, anyone her
Speaker 4: Dame or anything like that would have hated having to
Speaker 4: do it, like if it got to the very end.
Speaker 5: And that would have to have been the point.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I was kind of happy to kind of
Speaker 4: just like squash things and kind of like not.
Speaker 5: Think about it and I just watching back.
Speaker 4: I and just knowing that Casey would come and talk
Speaker 4: to me Gabe and talk about the game and like
Speaker 4: we talked, you know, there's gay play there.
Speaker 5: I was like, wow, we don't do this, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So it was it was cool to like see and
Speaker 4: to work with her and to finally have this new
Speaker 4: experience in the game with someone I've played every season
Speaker 4: with just knowing but like I said, just going into
Speaker 4: this not knowing.
Speaker 5: What was going to be thrown our way since it
Speaker 5: was new.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we weren't working with people that.
Speaker 3: Usually we are, you know, or what the teams that
Speaker 3: you were gunning for this season before a little baby
Speaker 3: p Jordan came into who who were you and Troy
Speaker 3: the soft the team soft spoken for you guys low
Speaker 3: key targeting to just like get out next.
Speaker 4: Honestly, we just it was more so who we were
Speaker 4: protecting the target. It was kind of like for me,
Speaker 4: like I walked in and I I, Me and Iah
Speaker 4: were really cool. Kelly Ann and so those and Jody.
Speaker 4: So those were the girls that I was just like, okay, cool,
Speaker 4: like I got you in then I had and then
Speaker 4: I'm like, well on, So anyone else was just like
Speaker 4: besides Casey of course was just like all right, cool,
Speaker 4: like I don't care to say their name if I
Speaker 4: have to, But I also had to look at it
Speaker 4: like people that uh. Then I had to look at
Speaker 4: it in the way like where Casey, you know, she
Speaker 4: was working though with Toy, So then there are points
Speaker 4: where I'm like, I can't say Tory's name, and then
Speaker 4: I had to look at it as like Tori's attached
Speaker 4: to Jordan's so it was so hard to say Jordan's yeah,
Speaker 4: and these are people like they're all working together, especially
Speaker 4: them being on USA or then or whatever, and then
Speaker 4: I'm on I have like Darrell oh and Durell, like
Speaker 4: of course I'll always have Drell's back, But other than that,
Speaker 4: like it was more so like Emily and Yes, I
Speaker 4: was kind of always questioning their game, Sarah and Sarah
Speaker 4: for sure, like her and Oh THEO. I was always
Speaker 4: just like, we're not talking game. Banana's and Justine we
Speaker 4: never talked game, so I was just like, if you're
Speaker 4: not talking to me, you're against me. So I kind
Speaker 4: of just was like, it's gonna be easy for me to.
Speaker 5: Say y'all's name.
Speaker 4: So like it was just people like that, like if
Speaker 4: I'm not working with you, I'm kind of we're kind
Speaker 4: of working against each other. But honestly didn't care to
Speaker 4: say people's name this season because I like the whole
Speaker 4: like in your face, you know, or we're sitting there
Speaker 4: and you just say it, Like I feel so relieved
Speaker 4: where I don't people know that I am saying the name,
Speaker 4: like it makes it so much easier for me in
Speaker 4: the game.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like there was less backstabbing in that
Speaker 3: way because people weren't secretly typing in or in putting
Speaker 3: a name or do you feel like it was equally
Speaker 3: as kind of you know, Caddy, I feel.
Speaker 4: I feel like it was equally kind of like. But
Speaker 4: I feel like some my thing was is just people
Speaker 4: not knowing, Like Banana's like, uh, you know, with his
Speaker 4: his like he had no idea that gonna help like that.
Speaker 4: And I'm sitting here, you know, I love Bananas and
Speaker 4: I feel like he's been a great person to me
Speaker 4: in the game. But I'm like, I didn't care who
Speaker 4: went home, Banana, Jordan, either one of y'all could have
Speaker 4: went home, just because like, I'm.
Speaker 5: Not trying to run with you in the final.
Speaker 4: Like yeah, end of the day, like, ye go, you
Speaker 4: can go, Like I don't really care.
Speaker 1: I like I like Mom Amber. Mom. Amber is a
Speaker 1: whole new Amber, I know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like she's always been in there,
Speaker 2: yeah she has, but now she's just coming out to
Speaker 2: play because who cares. Yeah, the only thing that matters
Speaker 2: is you know what you got to do for you
Speaker 2: and your partner at this point. Yeah, and you already
Speaker 2: did what you had.
Speaker 5: To do, right, And I learned that this season.
Speaker 2: I love this season for that. I mean, I do
Speaker 2: at Tori's my best friend. I get it, like trying
Speaker 2: to protect people. But I also love like fuck it,
Speaker 2: like you don't know what I'm going to do or
Speaker 2: where I'm going to go, and you know, Devin will
Speaker 2: tell you first hit. Like I played like that all
Speaker 2: the time, right because I don't know anybody anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure to have my back.
Speaker 4: So that's yeah, that's how I felt like going into EARL.
Speaker 4: I didn't owe anyone anything this season because I've never
Speaker 4: had a solid alliance.
Speaker 5: So it's just like it makes my game. I know,
Speaker 5: it makes my game so much easier.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, I love going in honestly not having
Speaker 4: numbers sometimes because yeah, like what are you going to
Speaker 4: say if I say your name?
Speaker 5: Like you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: You have you said my name? You never wanted to
Speaker 4: play with me? You like there's something that you've done
Speaker 4: to hurt my game, and you're mad because I'm saying
Speaker 4: your name.
Speaker 5: So I did not care, Like, but there were.
Speaker 4: People in there that I was getting to know or
Speaker 4: I got close to that, Like I said that came
Speaker 4: to me like Kelly Anne and Nia and and Jody
Speaker 4: and or you know Drell and we're like, hey, like
Speaker 4: we got you, like let's work together, like and so
Speaker 4: it made me happy knowing that people came to me
Speaker 4: this season and we're like, I want to work with
Speaker 4: you because I.
Speaker 5: Don't ever get that. I'm like, I'm like, what is this?
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like so, but no, I definitely feel I'm it is
Speaker 4: a bitter It was a bittersweet season for me.
Speaker 5: I wish I had more time there.
Speaker 3: I always have this moment of discovering that baby P
Speaker 3: Jordan exists on camera like that, or like being able
Speaker 3: to share it with the world.
Speaker 5: I didn't think about it like that. Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 3: You'll be able to show them when they're old enough,
Speaker 3: and when they get into the challenge, you'll be like, look,
Speaker 3: you come from a line of power movers. You were
Speaker 3: making moves when you were in the womb. Now get
Speaker 3: in there and win. No right, T j will be
Speaker 3: on a walker, you know, with like assisted hearing, still
Speaker 3: hosting the challenge.
Speaker 1: Your baby will be up there crown the next winter.
Speaker 3: I hope it's it's shirt just says baby P Jordan
Speaker 3: on it, and you know, really with the baby P
Speaker 3: Jordan's real, that's we're gonna call it baby because we
Speaker 3: don't know the gender yet.
Speaker 1: They're keeping secret so we're gonna go baby Pete Jordan.
Speaker 4: I feel like mama, And are you cool with us
Speaker 4: calling it baby p Jordan?
Speaker 2: You can't say whatever is wait wait are you telling
Speaker 2: people at the bridal shower?
Speaker 1: I mean the baby shower. I'm sorry, my brain no.
Speaker 4: So a lot of people the baby show already know. Okay,
Speaker 4: but it's just we're not sharing it with like the
Speaker 4: word baby pe Jordan is here. Yeah, until we got
Speaker 4: our little our baby or baby little Palmer, whatever you
Speaker 4: want to call it. Until the baby's here, we're gonna
Speaker 4: we kind of want to keep it to ourselves because
Speaker 4: it's just been like it's been, we haven't shared too
Speaker 4: much of the pregnancy journey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's your journey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you thought of glowing and it's just like dress
Speaker 2: and it was just baby.
Speaker 5: I know, baby, like look, oh my god, it's all big.
Speaker 2: I know, it's so much bigger than the reunion. It
Speaker 2: was just like it was like a baby now. It
Speaker 2: was like a bloat baby at that point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, chipotle baby baby boobs and boobs and baby. I
Speaker 4: felt like I had to tell people because I'm like, yo,
Speaker 4: like this gut is popping and like I don't want to.
Speaker 2: Be in your sweatsuit, you were safe because it kind
Speaker 2: of cut off like yeah, yeah, this is but in
Speaker 2: your dress, I was like, boobs are boobing right now?
Speaker 1: Right? You always had you always, I mean, you have
Speaker 1: a great body, but like.
Speaker 5: Some boobs, but they are really booming. Yeah yeah I was.
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 4: You know what's so funny too, So every time I
Speaker 4: was saying it, like in the house, I have to
Speaker 4: do this out there. Oh, I got compliments on my
Speaker 4: boot boobs all season, Like when at Global, I'm like, oh, okay,
Speaker 4: like my boobs are like I never caught compliments like that,
Speaker 4: Like all the girls are saying I love your boobs
Speaker 4: and I'm like thanks, And then I kept saying like, man,
Speaker 4: I don't feel good. I would be like saying that
Speaker 4: THEO goes. THEO would always say you're pregnant, THEO.
Speaker 5: Pregnant, You're pregnant.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: So the I was like, THEO, don't put that on me.
Speaker 4: I get I would tell him, do not put that
Speaker 4: on me. I'm in this game. I'm trying to win
Speaker 4: this money, Like, don't put that on me. And he
Speaker 4: was like, no, you're pregnant. I was like so so
Speaker 4: many times he would tell me that to where he
Speaker 4: got in my head.
Speaker 5: I'm like, am I pregnant? Okay, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Not THEO predicting the future?
Speaker 2: Right, He was like, I can tell I know, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's he's he definitely predicted that one.
Speaker 5: So THEO would always tell me, he would always.
Speaker 4: Throw out there that I was pregnant, but no, in
Speaker 4: my mind, like because I was on birth control, I
Speaker 4: remember switching, like I was in the pros of switching,
Speaker 4: like what I like what I was on because I
Speaker 4: was taking it in the house like this season. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and so I was not wanted to call there, I know,
Speaker 4: I know, Like so in my mind, I was just thinking,
Speaker 4: like this is like the doctor said, I'm probably just
Speaker 4: stressed and like, you know whatever.
Speaker 5: But I was just like, I'm taking my my pill
Speaker 5: on time, like I'm good.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to do everything to premit myself not to
Speaker 4: get pregnant, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, its fireproof.
Speaker 4: I have to throw this out there, Nissa, James is
Speaker 4: the reason why the baby's on the way.
Speaker 5: Here's why.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the past right, James, Anissa's best friend, James, who
Speaker 4: is now thank you, sir for a Nissa is now
Speaker 4: one of my closest friends out here in LA was
Speaker 4: like one day called me and Chauncey and was like
Speaker 4: because we had to add up, Like when did this happen?
Speaker 5: Like you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: It was like James caused us. When night was like
Speaker 4: let's go get spooky. We got spooky one night, we
Speaker 4: got lit, we got so drunk and cause of James. Yeah,
Speaker 4: He's like we gotta get spooky and me and Chauncey
Speaker 4: do not get like that, like at all. So like
Speaker 4: we it got to the point where we me and
Speaker 4: Chauncey woke up on the floor at our house with
Speaker 4: like food everywhere. We had made like pancakes, chicken nuggets,
Speaker 4: like French fries, like hot Pocket was like.
Speaker 1: It was a spooky, spooky night. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So we were like by my doctor telling me like
Speaker 4: when I conceived, I was.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, it's James fault.
Speaker 4: It's James a baby.
Speaker 2: That's hilarious, James, this baby daddy number two.
Speaker 1: That's fine.
Speaker 2: I mean it's a very James thing to be like
Speaker 2: one or two cocktails and then no, he was he
Speaker 2: was dead.
Speaker 4: On the spooky James is like you are having we
Speaker 4: are having fun tonight. James kept like just giving us
Speaker 4: cocktails like it was it was so.
Speaker 2: Shadow like, James shout out to James, We're totally gonna
Speaker 2: have a spooky night when I get there.
Speaker 1: But I probably wanted to pregnant.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you never know, maybe maybe even James have a
Speaker 4: little bit.
Speaker 2: We talked about it, but I don't think James James
Speaker 2: is ever going to actually like do it.
Speaker 4: Do it.
Speaker 1: We'd have to, we'd have to get a doctor involved.
Speaker 5: Well, we can get it. What do you call those things?
Speaker 1: A turkey baster?
Speaker 4: Yeah, spok the only way.
Speaker 5: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: But no, thanks to James, I have a blessing on
Speaker 4: the way, like because I was just like I went,
Speaker 4: I didn't even It's just mind blowing to me that
Speaker 4: I didn't know I was pregnant, like or I didn't
Speaker 4: feel pregnant in them because like I was sitting there
Speaker 4: doing things like it was just little things that made
Speaker 4: me feel like, oh, maybe it's just as virus or
Speaker 4: whatever's going around with them.
Speaker 1: But it makes sense because you weren't in your normal environment.
Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, I would have sensed it if
Speaker 3: you were in at home doing your normal routine, you'd
Speaker 3: be like, this is off, but you were doing none.
Speaker 1: Of those things.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I felt fine.
Speaker 1: Amber.
Speaker 3: It has been so fun having you and baby p
Speaker 3: Jordan here. For those who want to follow along more
Speaker 3: for your journey and baby peas Jordan's Baby pe Jordan's journeys,
Speaker 3: where can they follow you on social?
Speaker 4: Just my name at Amber Bortra.
Speaker 1: Jordan on Instagram. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Instagram like whatever, I'm just out there.
Speaker 5: Just type in my name you'll find me.
Speaker 1: Ooh, I love that.
Speaker 3: She's like, just google me and baby Pete in the
Speaker 3: power moves and thank you so much for just for
Speaker 3: being you. There's there's no other way to say that.
Speaker 3: Thank you for being you. We'll be back in the
Speaker 3: game when you're ready, but until then, you have this
Speaker 3: excite being super exciting and chat both of your baby
Speaker 3: daddies and.
Speaker 1: And all the cats.
Speaker 4: Yeah cats, Oh my god, I'm like, I want so
Speaker 4: oh you want? You need to come out here, ANDSA,
Speaker 4: you need to come coming on the twentieth perfect if.
Speaker 1: I don't come out and Sam, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Oh well, I I appreciate you, ladies. It's been nice
Speaker 4: to chat and I hope to see you in the future.
Speaker 4: On a future season after this baby out.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, you all the love and hugs, and thank
Speaker 3: you for making the time to chat with this too,
Speaker 3: because we know you got a lot going on, like
Speaker 3: you need to put the grip together, okay.
Speaker 4: To take a dam again, I know, right, Oh my god,
Speaker 4: I'm so ready. All right, ladies, so bye bye, all
Speaker 4: right bye go day you too.
Speaker 2: That was a great, great intimate view at Amber's life.
Speaker 2: I'm so happy that she came on and really opened
Speaker 2: up to us about everything. So kudos to Amber and
Speaker 2: good luck with everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was so great. I'm glad that she came
Speaker 1: by to talk to us.
Speaker 3: Love getting to check in with Amber and all these
Speaker 3: cool new chapters that are happening in her life. For
Speaker 3: those who want to tap into the cool new chapters
Speaker 3: in a niece's life, where can they find you?
Speaker 2: On social There's nothing new going on over here, But
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