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Speaker 2: Welcome to Good Morning Football Live in New York City, Monday,

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Speaker 2: August seventh. I'm jamieard Al, Kyle Brandt, Peter Schrager, Jason mccordy,

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Speaker 2: Comforty block Book.

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Speaker 3: The Packer has held their.

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Speaker 2: Annual Family Night practice at lambeau Field in front of

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Speaker 2: over sixty five thousand fans. Everyone's just thrilled to he

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Speaker 2: football back. That was on Saturday night. And while there

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Speaker 2: were mixed reviews of Jordan Love's overall performance at that practice,

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Speaker 2: he did throw this touchdown to Christian Watson to end

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Speaker 2: the session. Here's what Jordan Love had to say to

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Speaker 2: a packed crowd after that open practice.

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Speaker 1: You waited three years. What has that done for you?

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Speaker 4: It's built a lot of work rhymes and just building

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Speaker 4: on how I can become a great NFL quarterback, and

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Speaker 4: just building with my teammates at chemistry. And you know,

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Speaker 4: Airboy's ready for this season. We're excited to go out

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Speaker 4: there and bring.

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Speaker 1: Back some doubes.

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Speaker 2: So we deemed this early in the preseason that Jordan

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Speaker 2: Love is one of the biggest mysteries in the league

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Speaker 2: right now. We'll learn more on Friday night against the

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Speaker 2: Bengals in Green Bay's first preseason game. That's seven pm

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Speaker 2: Eastern Friday on NFL Network. The Bengals will lead our

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Speaker 2: second hour of the show, but the Packers are here

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Speaker 2: for the top of this hour. What does a successful

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Speaker 2: season look like?

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Speaker 1: Peter? For the new.

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Speaker 2: Packers starting quarterbacks? So just strange sentence. We don't say

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's tough with him because it's like one of

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Speaker 5: those drawings where it's like the eye of the beholder

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Speaker 5: because you hear the reports from the athletic that this

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Speaker 5: guy's stinking it of and then you also hear reports

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Speaker 5: from others.

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Speaker 1: Being like he's unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: He throws a lot of Christian Watson, and it was

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Speaker 5: like watching Rogers to Adams. Jordan Love himself is not

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Speaker 5: going to be for MVP Aaron Rodgers this year. He's

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Speaker 5: not going to be Patrick Mahomes in his first season.

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Speaker 1: But Jordan Love can still be very good. And what's

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Speaker 1: it successful? Jordan Love?

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Speaker 6: This season look like it looks like success for.

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Speaker 7: The Packers, and it looks like running an offense that

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Speaker 7: might not look like Aaron Rodgers. It might mean that

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Speaker 7: they are a rushing team and that they lead the

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Speaker 7: fifteen hundred yards and one hundred catches or something like.

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Speaker 6: That, But the truth matters.

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Speaker 5: If I'm gonna do it like this, I'm gonna say

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Speaker 5: a successful season for Jordan Love is to ensure the fact.

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Speaker 6: That he has no doubt the starter next year.

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Speaker 5: And that's not easy because this is gonna be a

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Speaker 5: There's gonna be a situation where his contract is up,

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Speaker 5: and if he is no doubt good enough that everyone

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Speaker 5: is like, yeah, of course we got our guy. We

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Speaker 5: sign a free agent, we don't need to go to

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Speaker 5: the draft. Well, that means it's successful. I think the

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Speaker 5: NFC is wide open this year. I think playoffs are very,

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Speaker 5: very possible for the Packers. They have a very good defense,

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Speaker 5: They've got a great offense of skilled position players.

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Speaker 1: There's a really good chance for him to have success.

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Speaker 5: Looking at it statistically, I'm looking at it as I'd

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's ridiculous. Just don't turn the ball over.

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Speaker 5: I'd say like a twenty touchdown ten interception or a

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Speaker 5: twenty five touchdown twelve interception season. And I'd say that

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Speaker 5: offense is a top fifteen offense in the NFL. And

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Speaker 5: Jordan Love undoubtedly is their quarterback going into twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 5: I think that is accessful season. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: Well the win thing, I think they're one of the

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Speaker 1: biggest swing teams in the league. Wouldn't surprise me at

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Speaker 1: like that, Neither one of those teams. I beg, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I kind of saw that coming. It doesn't shock me

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Speaker 1: this year because I think it's first things. First Week

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Speaker 1: one at Soldier Field. You go in there and you

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Speaker 1: do what Packerd quarterbacks do. You go when you own

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Speaker 1: They've been doing that since I've been in seventh grade.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Brett Favre twenty four and six at

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love has watched from the Soldier Field bench. When

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Speaker 1: Brett Farb was inducted in the Hall of Fame, the

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Speaker 1: the first clip they will show is throwing a touchdown

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Speaker 1: at Soldier Field. You own that place. You own that

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Speaker 1: drive one of the Jordan Love era and lose in

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Speaker 1: the Chicago bears own House of Horrors, which is their

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Speaker 1: You lose at home to the Packers, to those two guys,

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Speaker 1: to those two absolute maniacs, don't don't show up and

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Speaker 1: that turned the page. And there's a new generation and

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields looks better than you, and he's gonna put it,

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Speaker 1: keep it going, keep it going. I remember when I

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Speaker 1: during the Farv Era. After just another annihilation of Brett

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Speaker 1: you know what, We're just never gonna beat this cause

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Speaker 1: we can finally beat the Packers. Rogers comes in. He's

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Speaker 1: even better. This is like, we got Rogers out of

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Speaker 1: Week one. If Jordan Love wins that game of Solzier Field,

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Speaker 1: It's massive. They have to win it. Jordan Love can't lose.

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Speaker 8: Him twenty four and six. That is just on the

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Speaker 8: road on the roll at Soldier Field.

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Speaker 9: That's a tough one.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna look at this from the perspective of I'm

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Speaker 8: and now Jordan Love is my quarterback. And the way

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna phrase is I need to see the it

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Speaker 8: you're sitting on the bench and it's a two minute

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Speaker 9: Just got to stop on defense.

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Speaker 8: Offense marches back out there and your quarterback is under center,

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Speaker 9: Right, we're good, go win us the game.

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Speaker 8: The confidence of a defensive player that had that in

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Speaker 8: because the quarterback was getting out there and you knew

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Speaker 9: On that drive.

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Speaker 8: For Jordan Love, this year, we need to see signs

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Speaker 8: of promise. They may be to your point, a six

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Speaker 8: win team and eleven win team, that number needs to

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Speaker 8: change because of the quarterback. Jordan Love needs to come

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Speaker 8: in there at a crucial point in the game, whether

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Speaker 8: three points in the fourth quarter and he puts an

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Speaker 8: amazing drive together to put him up two scores. That's

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Speaker 8: what you need to see. To the point where a

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Speaker 8: When Jordan Love goes trotting onto the field, it's just like,

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Speaker 8: we have a chance. There is hope that this game

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Speaker 8: is under center. That doesn't mean he's going out there

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Speaker 8: and he's dominating. He's throwing for four hundred yards and

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Speaker 8: better throughout the season. They have him for another year

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Speaker 8: next year, so the finish out this year. To your point,

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Speaker 8: Shrek's you need to say, hey, we know we have

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Speaker 8: our quarterback. What pieces do we need to find to

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Speaker 8: this season, what his strengths are, what his weaknesses are

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Speaker 8: to build around him. But that factor, to me is

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Speaker 8: Aaron Rodgers, Brett fav when they took the feel you're like,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listening to you, it brings to mind. You know,

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Speaker 3: He has to command it within the offense.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like in a basketball huddle when the

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Speaker 2: they wanting to listen to the quarterback because they trust

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the playball is. And then we

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Speaker 2: Jay, It's like, when you scouted against this guy, were

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Speaker 2: you intimidating that you not like you want to demand respect, Peter,

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Speaker 2: I'm curious with Jordan Love and Trey Lance falls into

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Speaker 2: remind refresh our memory, Like it's really weird.

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Speaker 3: Why did we like this guy in the first place?

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Speaker 2: Because when you look back at his basic bio, you're like,

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Speaker 2: all right, northern California, guy, Utah State, you know, COVID

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Speaker 2: season kids just in a clap with Tua and Justin

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Speaker 5: And the Packers loved him because they made a move

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Speaker 5: and got him in the first round when they had

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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers, a first ballot Hall of Famer there at

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Speaker 5: the time, he was a late first, early second prospect.

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Speaker 1: So when he goes and they make that move at.

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Speaker 5: The first round, You're like, wow, and it's even crazier

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Speaker 5: considering they had Rogers. But if you look at it

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Speaker 5: now and Jamie, I think it's a great segue for it.

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Speaker 5: They probably said on paper, the ideal situation is he

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Speaker 5: to go for year four, and like, we don't have

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Speaker 6: He should be ready.

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Speaker 1: He should be ready. He is not a rookie. He

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Speaker 1: is not a second year guy. He is not a

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Speaker 1: third year guy. He should be more than ready to

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Speaker 1: go under center and play.

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Speaker 5: When we see guys like Anthony Richardson who are twenty

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Speaker 5: years old being thrown under center and being asked to

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Speaker 5: carry a team at some point, that is one where

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Speaker 5: it's like, all right, look, is that is that prudent?

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Speaker 5: Is that this guy he's going into a second contract

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Speaker 5: very soon?

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Speaker 1: Like put up or shut up? Yeah, I've said this many.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the strangest draft pick in history. Might

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Speaker 1: be I understand that not only did they move up

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Speaker 6: Can we get any better than andre Josevash.

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Speaker 5: Let's go to the Cowboys, and let's go to mark

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Speaker 6: The Chiefs are so loaded with all this young talent.

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Speaker 5: You're seeing Pachaco out there and deanerk Prince is getting

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Speaker 1: Kyle, we go to you first.

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Speaker 6: Your thoughts on my first four names for players to.

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Speaker 1: Watch Greright, listen. Peter Josivus a fascinating guy from Hawaii,

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Speaker 1: born and raised in Hawaii, same high school as the

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Speaker 1: Forrest Buckner and Menti Tayo. He also made Peter, I

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Speaker 1: Know something that you love. He made the Bruce Feldman

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Speaker 1: Freaks lists before his final year Princeton and then had

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Speaker 1: sixty six catches in ten games. It's a loaded room,

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Speaker 1: but like he's sixty three runs of four to four

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Speaker 1: jump forty inches, Like he's a phenox. He can make it.

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Speaker 8: I look at that and I see the name Justin

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Speaker 8: Ross and that route that they should where he's pushing

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Speaker 8: the guy off. He grabs his towel behind him and

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Speaker 8: wipes his hands off before he catches the ball, which

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Speaker 8: is pretty impressive to do that all while playing in

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Speaker 8: the NFL as a receiver. But Dylan like that story

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Speaker 8: of all of that going through that to finally get

452
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Speaker 8: it the opportunity is really cool. But those rookie mini

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Speaker 8: camps you rarely see guys getting off.

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Speaker 5: You don't know Adam Feelin found his way in the

455
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Speaker 5: league that way your cruise.

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Speaker 1: They invite guys from local schools.

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Speaker 5: And say, all right, we might have a spop so

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Speaker 5: which you got, Let's see what you need a body?

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Speaker 1: We need bodies.

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Speaker 5: Dylan Drummond showed up draft weekend. He played thirty six

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Speaker 5: holes at his local course in Cleveland, did not even

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Speaker 5: have his phone on him, was like, I'm not getting drafted, Like,

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Speaker 5: did not even consider it as a possibility.

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Speaker 2: Did he have like a summer job being a caddy

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Speaker 2: because Dealen was like a dental internship.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he.

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Speaker 5: Hasn't other things lined up right, Like Keith didn't think

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Speaker 5: there's a chance.

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Speaker 2: But here we are, Peter, really, I just applaud you

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Speaker 2: for covering all of our bases, just in case everyone's

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Speaker 2: on someone. Dylan Drummond's story in October we have it

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Speaker 2: on good authority. On August seventh, Peter Schrager had a

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Speaker 2: first Good Morning Football, had a first appreciate that the

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Speaker 2: work six.

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Speaker 1: To one coming the rest of this week.

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Speaker 2: I wait, we can't wait Peter's pre season ten two

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Speaker 2: pot before so, while at Vikings training camp are on,

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks sat down with Justin Jefferson and decided to

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Speaker 2: issue a formal apology for Bucky Brooks's pre draft coverage

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Speaker 2: of Justin Jefferson out of LSU.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to issue an apology to this guy.

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Speaker 4: Because doing the draft, I had him in my top five,

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Speaker 4: but I didn't have it at the top. And so

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Speaker 4: I don't see the phone call from one of your mentors,

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Speaker 4: Jerry Sullivan.

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Speaker 1: He's like, hey man, you're all awful this. You don't

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Speaker 1: know that I have some dog in him.

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Speaker 4: So I want to go back to, like the draft,

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Speaker 4: what did the people who didn't think that you.

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Speaker 1: Would be like the crown jewel of the class.

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Speaker 9: What did we miss? Sea? I'll miss a lie?

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Speaker 3: I mean, just so that's good.

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Speaker 2: Clearly the draft experts Bucky included camp be right all

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Speaker 2: the time.

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Speaker 3: But let's look ahead.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty three rookie coming into the season, critics were

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Speaker 2: off on him in the draft. You're going to prove

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Speaker 2: everybody wrong, Peter, Who do you.

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Speaker 5: Got I'm going to Kansas City? Or last year they

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Speaker 5: had a seventh round pick name Isaiah Pacheco, who's making

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Speaker 5: the biggest plays of the Super Bowl. I'm going there

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Speaker 5: again and I'm going with Generic Prince, undrafted at A Tulsa,

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Speaker 5: who I'm told is been outstanding in camp. He's wearing

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Speaker 5: that thirty four. He's not only a running back, he's

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Speaker 5: also their kick returner in camp special teams guy too

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Speaker 5: was at Texas A.

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Speaker 6: And M then transferred to Tulsa.

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Speaker 5: And at Tulsa he had a seventeen hundred yard career

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Speaker 5: and also had you know, over the touchdowns with kick returns, everything,

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Speaker 5: and it's been outstanding in camp. Of course, the Chiefs

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Speaker 5: get this guy, of course, but two hundred and sixty

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Speaker 5: picks went by, No one took Generic Prince. We get

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Speaker 5: to camp and here we go den Eric Prince has

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Speaker 5: been a standout. That's who I think we're going.

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Speaker 1: To be talking about. How did this guy go undrafted?

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Speaker 1: But he's making big plays in big games for Kansas City.

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Speaker 9: It's crazy.

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Speaker 8: Last year, put Chuckle was a guy draft pick, returning kicks,

519
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Speaker 8: playing running back, and now it's almost not fair. Now

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Speaker 8: you have another guy in there doing the same. I'm

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Speaker 8: going with the cornerback drafting in New England, Christian Gonzalez,

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Speaker 8: and this was a guy.

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Speaker 9: I'm not leaning on.

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Speaker 8: The critics so much because this was a guy everybody

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Speaker 8: was saying it was the top cornerback in the draft.

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Speaker 8: Then the draft comes and he's a third corner taking

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Speaker 8: off the board. You have Forbes going right before him

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Speaker 8: to Washington, and obviously had Devin Witherspoon going to Seattle

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Speaker 8: at the top of the draft. This is a guy

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Speaker 8: at New England everybody's saying, extremely smooth, looks really good.

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Speaker 8: Should be starting opposite John Jones this season. And there

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Speaker 8: was some questions on his physicality. Is he going to

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Speaker 8: come up there? Is he going to tackle? Well, he's

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Speaker 8: impressed the people in New England. I think this is

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Speaker 8: a guy that's gonna show up. He's gonna play a

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Speaker 8: lot of snaps and he may surprise a few people. Hey,

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Speaker 8: I should have been maybe the first cornerback off the

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Speaker 8: board this year.

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Speaker 1: How about a high first rounder. There was a pick

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Speaker 1: that was made in that draft where the outrage, the shock.

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Speaker 1: You would have thought the team took Charles Manson, like

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Speaker 1: you cannot believe that they draft him. Here it is,

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Speaker 1: here's the pick, with a new Hall of Famer reacting

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Speaker 1: to it as many many people are doing. Go ahead

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Speaker 1: with a twelve pick.

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Speaker 5: In the twenty twenty three NFL Draft, the Detroit Lions

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Speaker 5: select Jamiir Gibbs, running back Alabama.

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Speaker 9: Wives.

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Speaker 10: They didn't know what to do, so what do they do?

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Speaker 10: They trade back and then they could have had Tyree Wilson,

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Speaker 10: Jalen Carter, or Christian Gonzales if they would have stayed

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Speaker 10: at six. They said, no, even though we have the

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Speaker 10: worst defense in the NFL, we're not going defense. We're

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Speaker 10: going to draft our running back at number twelve.

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Speaker 1: Joe might be that spot on and he might be

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Speaker 1: way freezing cold. Take they took Jamir Gibbs, they took

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Speaker 1: him high, they knew what they wanted, they went after him.

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Speaker 1: I was surprised, as the next person was. And it

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Speaker 1: does seem a little strange in the era of no

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Speaker 1: one wants running backs, wants to pay them. However, you

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Speaker 1: get that first rounder, you let that puppy go and

562
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Speaker 1: he gets eight hundred rushing six hundred receiving. The funny

563
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Speaker 1: thing is they had to pick a few picks later,

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Speaker 1: and they took Jack Campbell, a middle linebacker. They were

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Speaker 1: doing I thought they might take two running backs in

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Speaker 1: the first round middle linebacker. That's it. Welcome to nineteen

567
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Speaker 1: ninety three. But Dan Campbell is doing the thing how

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Speaker 1: he wants it. A lot of wins last year. Can

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Speaker 1: do whatever he wants. Your kids, go off.

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Speaker 2: This is where football lives, right up the middle. That

571
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Speaker 2: may be the new way to pay your running back, though,

572
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Speaker 2: is just take him in the first round, get a

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Speaker 2: really good guy, and then.

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Speaker 1: Right there, wait, then never pay him again.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, so sorry.

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Speaker 2: Coming up, let's talk the Bengals. What is going on

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Speaker 2: in Cincinnati? Can they get their third straight at AFC

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Speaker 2: North title?

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Speaker 1: Good morning football.

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Speaker 2: Bengals are getting ready for their first preseason game. It'll

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Speaker 2: be this Friday when they host the Packers seven pm Eastern,

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Speaker 2: right here on NFL Network. Of course, quarterback Joe Burrow

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Speaker 2: will not be out on the field, not because he's

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Speaker 2: on a contract hold out, but because he's still dealing

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Speaker 2: with that calf strain that will put him out. Quote

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Speaker 2: several weeks. According to his head coach Zach Taylor, will

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Speaker 2: Burrow be back for a week one? That is the

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Speaker 2: question amongst many others with the Bengals as they hang

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Speaker 2: the division are own. Andrew Siciliano and Brian Baldinger asked

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Speaker 2: Jamar Chase, his wide receiver favorite w.

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Speaker 3: W R one, that very question.

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Speaker 1: Wow, letters, do you have any doubt that he'll be

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Speaker 1: there week one? I told him that, with all honesty,

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Speaker 1: I don't want him there. You don't want him to

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Speaker 1: play the one.

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Speaker 11: Same thing with me mom last week and week twenty

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Speaker 11: exactly exactly, you know what I'm saying. And I sat

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Speaker 11: out an extra game just to let my hip all

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Speaker 11: the way hill up, And you know you don't want

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Speaker 11: to cause no other problems later on in the season,

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Speaker 11: you know, I told him, as long as you're there

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Speaker 11: at the week five and on, you know, we're good.

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Speaker 1: Brother.

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Speaker 5: Hmm.

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Speaker 2: Jamar knows how the schedule works out week five or

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Speaker 2: beyond you school. Hopefully, though, bro, we'll be back well

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Speaker 2: before we five. That would be best for the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: But as it stands right now, what is the biggest

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Speaker 2: obstacle in the way for the Bengals. And their third

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Speaker 2: straight AFC North title.

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Speaker 1: Peter, the AFC North is really good. Yeah, and it

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Speaker 1: got better this offseason.

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Speaker 5: And I feel like last year was a little window

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Speaker 5: where Lamar was out with the injury, and is this

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Speaker 5: transition with Ben Roethlisberger and Trubisky started the season and

616
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Speaker 5: Pickett didn't come into midway through, and even then he

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Speaker 5: was shaky and then finally caught it. And then the

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Speaker 5: Browns had a complete wash of the season because Watson's

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Speaker 5: suspension and Watson came back and he was rusty. I

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Speaker 5: think this is the best division in football this year.

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Speaker 5: I think the AFC North. All four of these teams

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Speaker 5: are playoff caliber teams.

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Speaker 1: All four might.

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Speaker 5: Be the four playoff teams the three division winners that

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Speaker 5: are side of it in the playoffs this year.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland, their defense.

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Speaker 5: Is really good this year, and Watson is not going

628
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Speaker 5: to be as bad as he was last year. He's

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Speaker 5: going to have a full offseason with them. The Ravens

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Speaker 5: added Odell and added Zay Flowers, who Peter King basically

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Speaker 5: anointed the next credible wide receivers. Err if you read

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Speaker 5: his article, and we respect Peter to the high heavens,

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Speaker 5: I mean this is like the Ravens have a thing

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Speaker 5: going on right now. And then of course the Steelers

635
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Speaker 5: are still the Steelers and Mike Tomlin's still coaching that team.

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Speaker 5: So to me, the Bengals, yeah.

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Speaker 1: You go, it's borough gonna be healthy.

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Speaker 5: Is all the wide receivers going to have enough balls

639
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Speaker 5: to be happy because they're all going to be free

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Speaker 5: agents and all this stuff that's all going to be

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Speaker 5: following them for it.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals had a nice little window last year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this division was down, good point, that division ain't

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Speaker 5: down anymore. I think this division is the best division

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Speaker 5: in football, and I think the Bengals are a very

646
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Speaker 5: good team, but it is not a slam dunk that

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Speaker 5: they're the top squad here. And I think that is

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Speaker 5: a real challenge because even if you do beat them

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Speaker 5: and do win those divisions, this isn't beating you know,

650
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Speaker 5: Tyler Huntley, who almost beat you in the playoffs. But

651
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Speaker 5: this isn't beating Tyler Huntley, and this isn't beating Trubisky.

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Speaker 5: This is beating three other teams that are coming to

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Speaker 5: this season thinking they're the division champions as well.

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Speaker 1: You know, you bring me to my point, there's a

655
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Speaker 1: dirty little secret about the Joe Burrow Bengals that doesn't

656
00:27:36,668 --> 00:27:38,828
Speaker 1: get talked about because it's beneath the radar. The Joe

657
00:27:38,828 --> 00:27:42,708
Speaker 1: Burrow Zach Taylor Bengals have really struggled against the Browns,

658
00:27:42,948 --> 00:27:46,268
Speaker 1: really struggled. Joe Burrow's one and four against Cleveland. Against Cleveland,

659
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Speaker 1: these have not been great Cleveland teams. Last two years.

660
00:27:49,228 --> 00:27:52,028
Speaker 1: His worst defeats Burrow as a starter have both been

661
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Speaker 1: to Cleveland. They've rolled it up on them. The Bengals

662
00:27:54,908 --> 00:27:57,028
Speaker 1: defense has been terrible Burrow has them been able to

663
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Speaker 1: get the win. And it's it's a combination of we

664
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Speaker 1: haven't talked about Cleveland much for the past year for

665
00:28:02,228 --> 00:28:05,148
Speaker 1: a lot of different reasons, versus you're so distracted by

666
00:28:05,188 --> 00:28:07,748
Speaker 1: Lamar and Pittsburgh the Steelers logo that you don't really

667
00:28:07,788 --> 00:28:10,788
Speaker 1: like the Browns. They've tuned up the Bengals a few times.

668
00:28:10,988 --> 00:28:14,228
Speaker 1: This defensek he's completely unafraid of that team. Apparently Miles

669
00:28:14,268 --> 00:28:17,188
Speaker 1: Garrett's completely unafraid of them. And this is just into

670
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Speaker 1: the Cleveland thing more. When it comes time to pick

671
00:28:19,668 --> 00:28:22,748
Speaker 1: the playoff teams, there's gonna be so many Cincinnati, so

672
00:28:22,748 --> 00:28:25,268
Speaker 1: many Baltimore. I'm sure Pittsburgh. They have nobody be picking

673
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Speaker 1: the Browns. They're not gonna pick the Browns. They're not

674
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Speaker 1: gonna be picked. Just turn on the games and at

675
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Speaker 1: least give the Browns credits for when they play Cincinnati

676
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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, in Cleveland, they've messed them up. Joe Burrow

677
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Speaker 1: one in four. Doesn't that not shock you? Is a

678
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Speaker 1: thing that has happened in the last few years for

679
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Speaker 1: whatever reason allowed avenue of the Bengals defense. They don't

680
00:28:42,428 --> 00:28:44,988
Speaker 1: play well against Cleveland. They have to play well against Cleveland.

681
00:28:44,988 --> 00:28:47,388
Speaker 1: Cleveland's gonna be better this year. That's might be the

682
00:28:47,428 --> 00:28:49,548
Speaker 1: thing where they We're all so distracted by Lamar and

683
00:28:49,548 --> 00:28:51,708
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh watch out for Cleveland on this. Don't you think

684
00:28:51,708 --> 00:28:53,508
Speaker 1: this is kind of recurring theme here at the table?

685
00:28:53,908 --> 00:28:55,748
Speaker 2: Say this is your Like, well, no, it's like your

686
00:28:55,788 --> 00:28:58,788
Speaker 2: theme today is to kryptonite for other teams like the Bears.

687
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Speaker 2: Kryptonite is the Packers, Bengals, Browns.

688
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Speaker 8: I'll look at this and if Jamar Cha is telling

689
00:29:04,948 --> 00:29:07,748
Speaker 8: Joe Burrow like hell, sit out, wait till week five,

690
00:29:07,828 --> 00:29:09,748
Speaker 8: as long as you come back, then then the question

691
00:29:09,868 --> 00:29:12,268
Speaker 8: comes in a who's going to beat the quarterback for

692
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Speaker 8: the Cincinnati Bengals, because that may be the toughest obstacle

693
00:29:15,588 --> 00:29:19,948
Speaker 8: to overcome. Trevor Simeon or Jake Browning led Cincinnati Bengal

694
00:29:20,108 --> 00:29:22,708
Speaker 8: offense and for a lot of yours sitting therea just like, well,

695
00:29:22,748 --> 00:29:24,868
Speaker 8: who are these guys? They've been splitting the first team

696
00:29:24,908 --> 00:29:27,948
Speaker 8: reps since Joe Burrow went down with injury. Trevor Simmion

697
00:29:28,068 --> 00:29:31,268
Speaker 8: drafting it twenty fifteen, seventh round, so the Broncos has

698
00:29:31,308 --> 00:29:32,548
Speaker 8: played all over the place.

699
00:29:32,988 --> 00:29:33,948
Speaker 9: Hasn't won a game in.

700
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Speaker 8: A while, though He's started for four different teams in

701
00:29:36,428 --> 00:29:38,988
Speaker 8: the last six years. His last one was in twenty

702
00:29:39,028 --> 00:29:41,588
Speaker 8: seventeen against the Jets, so it's been a while.

703
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Speaker 9: Then you look at Jake.

704
00:29:42,468 --> 00:29:45,988
Speaker 8: Browning, he hasn't played in a regular season NFL game,

705
00:29:46,308 --> 00:29:49,028
Speaker 8: will hold so many passing ruccords at the University of

706
00:29:49,148 --> 00:29:52,268
Speaker 8: Washington practice squad for two years in Minnesota. Has been

707
00:29:52,308 --> 00:29:55,108
Speaker 8: on Cincinnati Bengals practice squad for the last two years.

708
00:29:55,268 --> 00:29:57,188
Speaker 9: So without Joe Burrow, and I know, it's like.

709
00:29:57,148 --> 00:29:58,868
Speaker 8: Hey, as long as he gets here at some point

710
00:29:59,108 --> 00:29:59,948
Speaker 8: he'll catch on and.

711
00:29:59,908 --> 00:30:02,428
Speaker 9: We'll be good as an offense. That's a lot easier

712
00:30:02,468 --> 00:30:03,188
Speaker 9: said than done.

713
00:30:03,228 --> 00:30:05,668
Speaker 8: You go out there without your Joe Burrow led offense,

714
00:30:05,868 --> 00:30:08,108
Speaker 8: and you have whether it's Browning, whether it's Simeon, who's

715
00:30:08,148 --> 00:30:11,508
Speaker 8: leading this offense. It's a completely different offense. Like, let's

716
00:30:11,548 --> 00:30:14,388
Speaker 8: not forget before Joe Burrow got to Cincinnati, they were

717
00:30:14,428 --> 00:30:17,468
Speaker 8: struggling as a team of trying to get better at

718
00:30:17,468 --> 00:30:19,948
Speaker 8: the first overall pick. So you look at Jamar Chase,

719
00:30:19,988 --> 00:30:22,188
Speaker 8: you look at T Higgins, you look at all the weapons.

720
00:30:22,428 --> 00:30:24,828
Speaker 8: ARV Smith has had a really good training camp, supposedly

721
00:30:25,108 --> 00:30:28,348
Speaker 8: Joe Mixon there without Joe Burrow, where is this offense?

722
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Speaker 8: So you open up the season and you play the

723
00:30:30,388 --> 00:30:32,748
Speaker 8: Browns and you play the Ravens in your first two games,

724
00:30:32,748 --> 00:30:34,908
Speaker 8: division of flowings and I know Burrow.

725
00:30:34,708 --> 00:30:35,188
Speaker 9: Will be back.

726
00:30:35,228 --> 00:30:37,228
Speaker 8: You'll be fine, but you don't really want to lose

727
00:30:37,268 --> 00:30:39,508
Speaker 8: two games right off the rip in your division. So

728
00:30:39,788 --> 00:30:42,668
Speaker 8: I think without Joe Burrow out there, obviously, that was

729
00:30:42,708 --> 00:30:43,868
Speaker 8: going to be their biggest obstacle.

730
00:30:43,948 --> 00:30:46,868
Speaker 2: The skeptic in me, here's a Jamar Chase SoundBite, and

731
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Speaker 2: I'm curious if he's trying to temper expectations for when

732
00:30:50,828 --> 00:30:53,748
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow does actually come back, Like if Jamar says

733
00:30:53,788 --> 00:30:56,108
Speaker 2: it's okay, then Joe could take longer. Maybe that's the

734
00:30:56,108 --> 00:30:58,108
Speaker 2: whole plan, is that it's worse than they want to

735
00:30:58,108 --> 00:31:00,068
Speaker 2: make it out to me, that Jamar is trying to

736
00:31:00,548 --> 00:31:01,588
Speaker 2: everybody don't panic.

737
00:31:01,708 --> 00:31:02,708
Speaker 3: I started to think about my.

738
00:31:02,668 --> 00:31:05,308
Speaker 2: AFC playoff teams this weekend and then I got hives

739
00:31:05,388 --> 00:31:08,228
Speaker 2: and I stopped because I stopped. In this division, there

740
00:31:08,308 --> 00:31:10,188
Speaker 2: is a very real chance that four of us at

741
00:31:10,188 --> 00:31:12,228
Speaker 2: the sable could pick all different teams in this division

742
00:31:12,308 --> 00:31:14,908
Speaker 2: to win that division, and that'd be okay, it wouldn't

743
00:31:14,908 --> 00:31:15,388
Speaker 2: be a shock.

744
00:31:15,908 --> 00:31:17,508
Speaker 3: Jay, I'm curious. And then I want to hear about

745
00:31:17,508 --> 00:31:17,988
Speaker 3: Peter too.

746
00:31:18,068 --> 00:31:20,548
Speaker 2: With the Burrow contracts, if you're on this team, if

747
00:31:20,548 --> 00:31:22,708
Speaker 2: you're in this locker room, they signed Logan Wilson to

748
00:31:22,708 --> 00:31:25,508
Speaker 2: a four year extend over the weekend. Are you looking

749
00:31:25,548 --> 00:31:28,228
Speaker 2: around like upstairs, like are we going to get this

750
00:31:28,228 --> 00:31:30,108
Speaker 2: thing done soon? You want to see him back on

751
00:31:30,148 --> 00:31:32,828
Speaker 2: the field first, Like, how does the room feel about

752
00:31:32,868 --> 00:31:33,468
Speaker 2: this situation?

753
00:31:33,748 --> 00:31:36,508
Speaker 8: I know, for me being in locker rooms, always looked

754
00:31:36,548 --> 00:31:40,108
Speaker 8: at contracts as personal. So for the sake of Joe Burrow,

755
00:31:40,148 --> 00:31:42,588
Speaker 8: you're hoping before he steps back out on the football

756
00:31:42,588 --> 00:31:45,788
Speaker 8: field that the contract's done because the caliber player is

757
00:31:45,788 --> 00:31:49,828
Speaker 8: what he's already accomplished. There's no debate of whether he's deserving,

758
00:31:50,108 --> 00:31:52,228
Speaker 8: and it almost seems like the table is set. We've

759
00:31:52,228 --> 00:31:55,108
Speaker 8: seen everybody get paid to this point. It's like he's

760
00:31:55,148 --> 00:31:57,348
Speaker 8: the last one. Just give him a few million more

761
00:31:57,388 --> 00:31:59,788
Speaker 8: and like, let's get this contract done. But at the

762
00:31:59,828 --> 00:32:02,148
Speaker 8: same time, this is up to Joe Burrow. If the

763
00:32:02,148 --> 00:32:04,628
Speaker 8: deal's not done, hell, we want you back out. So

764
00:32:04,668 --> 00:32:06,548
Speaker 8: I'm not going to tell you, hey, don't play. I

765
00:32:06,588 --> 00:32:08,548
Speaker 8: think he has to ultimately make that decision. If I'm

766
00:32:08,588 --> 00:32:10,268
Speaker 8: in a locker room, you want to see it done,

767
00:32:10,308 --> 00:32:11,748
Speaker 8: but you want to see your guy back out there

768
00:32:11,748 --> 00:32:12,548
Speaker 8: helping you win games.

769
00:32:12,868 --> 00:32:14,348
Speaker 3: Peter, what are you hearing about that situation?

770
00:32:14,988 --> 00:32:15,708
Speaker 1: It's being worked on.

771
00:32:15,748 --> 00:32:20,108
Speaker 5: There are two major major players who have not gotten

772
00:32:20,108 --> 00:32:21,988
Speaker 5: their contracts. I think people thought would probably have it

773
00:32:22,068 --> 00:32:24,588
Speaker 5: done now, and that's both in San Francisco, and that's

774
00:32:24,588 --> 00:32:27,148
Speaker 5: Burrow and Cincinnati. The're both represented by the same agency,

775
00:32:27,228 --> 00:32:29,108
Speaker 5: the same guys, so I'm curious to see how that

776
00:32:29,148 --> 00:32:31,308
Speaker 5: goes down. Those guys also having to be best friends

777
00:32:31,668 --> 00:32:33,788
Speaker 5: the Bosa brothers, Dan Burrow growing up in going to

778
00:32:33,788 --> 00:32:36,148
Speaker 5: Ohio State, those guys were all tight, So interesting to

779
00:32:36,148 --> 00:32:37,708
Speaker 5: see how it plays out. But I think from a

780
00:32:37,828 --> 00:32:41,548
Speaker 5: Bengals situation, Joe Mixon took less money. They get logan, well,

781
00:32:41,548 --> 00:32:44,188
Speaker 5: like there's money there, and it's just are the Bengals

782
00:32:44,188 --> 00:32:46,148
Speaker 5: going to be the team that historically haven't been the.

783
00:32:46,108 --> 00:32:48,308
Speaker 1: Break the bank? Are they going to do it?

784
00:32:48,388 --> 00:32:49,708
Speaker 5: Or is it gonna be one of those deals where

785
00:32:49,708 --> 00:32:52,148
Speaker 5: Burrow's like, I want Tyler Boyd to sue be here.

786
00:32:52,228 --> 00:32:54,188
Speaker 5: I want t Higgins to still be here. I want

787
00:32:54,228 --> 00:32:56,148
Speaker 5: to have all these offensive linemens still here. I don't

788
00:32:56,148 --> 00:32:57,668
Speaker 5: need to take top dollars. That's what I think.

789
00:32:57,668 --> 00:32:58,948
Speaker 1: It is the number where it comes out.

790
00:32:58,988 --> 00:33:02,028
Speaker 5: But from a chemistry standpoint, I couldn't speak on that.

791
00:33:02,108 --> 00:33:04,348
Speaker 5: I almost think that, like Jason, they put these guys

792
00:33:04,428 --> 00:33:06,228
Speaker 5: with their blinders on it, like I've got worry about

793
00:33:06,228 --> 00:33:06,668
Speaker 5: me and then that.

794
00:33:06,628 --> 00:33:07,348
Speaker 1: Thing will take care of it.

795
00:33:07,348 --> 00:33:09,148
Speaker 2: So I saw this great article in the Athletic. I

796
00:33:09,188 --> 00:33:11,628
Speaker 2: can't remember who wrote it. I apologize, but the analogy

797
00:33:11,708 --> 00:33:13,908
Speaker 2: was awesome. It was like the Bengals have decided to

798
00:33:13,908 --> 00:33:16,508
Speaker 2: take the approach of like building their nest, their bird's nest,

799
00:33:16,548 --> 00:33:19,268
Speaker 2: before they like drop the big bird right in the

800
00:33:19,268 --> 00:33:21,508
Speaker 2: middle of it, which is Burrow. Other teams they like,

801
00:33:21,548 --> 00:33:23,588
Speaker 2: get the big hen this line are up top before

802
00:33:23,588 --> 00:33:25,388
Speaker 2: they do this, so it's one approacha' see if it

803
00:33:25,428 --> 00:33:25,788
Speaker 2: works out.

804
00:33:25,788 --> 00:33:28,308
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, I hope that bird is there in week one. Yeah,

805
00:33:28,348 --> 00:33:30,668
Speaker 1: I appreciate Jamar Chase's candor and saying I hope he's

806
00:33:30,668 --> 00:33:32,748
Speaker 1: not there. But when you start throwing it like the

807
00:33:32,788 --> 00:33:36,388
Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon names around, just picture they lose Week one

808
00:33:36,428 --> 00:33:38,068
Speaker 1: and they lose thirty one to twenty. You just look

809
00:33:38,068 --> 00:33:39,668
Speaker 1: at the end of the year and remember that AFC.

810
00:33:39,788 --> 00:33:41,148
Speaker 1: It's like, do we have a home game or do

811
00:33:41,188 --> 00:33:42,548
Speaker 1: we have a road game? Are we in the playoffs

812
00:33:42,628 --> 00:33:44,748
Speaker 1: or we not? Remember how jammed it was last year

813
00:33:44,788 --> 00:33:46,748
Speaker 1: and they're moving games, and like every game counts this

814
00:33:46,868 --> 00:33:47,508
Speaker 1: year in the year.

815
00:33:47,428 --> 00:33:50,228
Speaker 5: Screeld because it's true, only seventeams seven make it go

816
00:33:50,268 --> 00:33:51,028
Speaker 5: at home and.

817
00:33:50,948 --> 00:33:52,988
Speaker 1: Write your seven playoff teams in the AFC down.

818
00:33:53,028 --> 00:33:55,468
Speaker 5: That means nine teams aren't making it and all the

819
00:33:55,508 --> 00:33:56,508
Speaker 5: quarterbacks are good in the area.

820
00:33:56,588 --> 00:33:58,548
Speaker 1: Yeah, and don't remember every you have to have every

821
00:33:58,548 --> 00:34:00,908
Speaker 1: division winner in. You can't be like nobody from the South.

822
00:34:01,148 --> 00:34:03,028
Speaker 1: Somebody in the South is making it at least these teams,

823
00:34:03,068 --> 00:34:05,028
Speaker 1: and everyone thinks of Slam dunk isn't. Yeah, so the

824
00:34:05,028 --> 00:34:07,268
Speaker 1: Browns or the Bengals start zero to one because they

825
00:34:07,268 --> 00:34:09,388
Speaker 1: don't have a burrow and they miss it by a game. Like,

826
00:34:09,428 --> 00:34:11,388
Speaker 1: that's how tight it is. It's like you need them

827
00:34:11,388 --> 00:34:12,428
Speaker 1: there as much as you can.

828
00:34:12,548 --> 00:34:13,868
Speaker 9: Vision games are so kind.

829
00:34:13,948 --> 00:34:16,028
Speaker 3: Now open up with two of them, Paul, dinner at

830
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Speaker 3: the Athletics.

831
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Speaker 2: Sorry, Paul, it was great and now it appears they

832
00:34:18,548 --> 00:34:19,788
Speaker 2: are nesting the Bengals.

833
00:34:19,828 --> 00:34:21,868
Speaker 3: Was such a great line. Twenty twenty three NFL season.

834
00:34:21,988 --> 00:34:26,508
Speaker 2: Those start Smith's training Camp enof on Network insider Access

835
00:34:26,588 --> 00:34:28,308
Speaker 2: across all thirty two teams.

836
00:34:28,308 --> 00:34:29,828
Speaker 3: Who else is building their nest egg?

837
00:34:30,028 --> 00:34:32,428
Speaker 2: We're gonna go to Santa Clara, We're gonna go to Jacksonville, Houston,

838
00:34:32,468 --> 00:34:35,028
Speaker 2: amongst the many others. You're gonna hear from a rookie quarterback,

839
00:34:35,108 --> 00:34:37,388
Speaker 2: how the things are going with the Texans and CJ.

840
00:34:37,508 --> 00:34:37,908
Speaker 3: Stroud.

841
00:34:38,108 --> 00:34:40,428
Speaker 2: That's inside Training Camp, presented by Old Spice.

842
00:34:40,508 --> 00:34:42,028
Speaker 1: Last time I talked to Kittle, he was getting a

843
00:34:42,228 --> 00:34:45,188
Speaker 1: Rilo and Stitch tattoo. I want to see if he

844
00:34:45,228 --> 00:34:45,708
Speaker 1: has that yet.

845
00:34:46,988 --> 00:34:51,188
Speaker 2: Is the hypeer justin Fields and the Goldilocks and three Bears?

846
00:34:51,228 --> 00:34:54,268
Speaker 3: Is it too hot? Too cold? Or is it just right,

847
00:34:54,428 --> 00:34:54,908
Speaker 3: he chuck.

848
00:34:55,348 --> 00:34:57,268
Speaker 1: I'd like to do that segment with porridge if we're

849
00:34:57,308 --> 00:34:59,628
Speaker 1: gonna do that. I like porridge. Isn't that just oatmeal

850
00:34:59,668 --> 00:35:01,828
Speaker 1: with more honey or something? What is porridge? I don't know,