WEBVTT - Robert Pills The Gang on NFTs 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.120 Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production of I Heart 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:22.560 Radio Together Everything. So don't don't. Welcome to America, listeners, 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:31.360 America America? Are we America customs and border Patrol? Is 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:35.199 that what this is for the listeners? Okay, because we're 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:39.960 guarding the customs to the border of knowledge. Check your 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:45.120 ears at the U gate. Yeah, check your ears somewhere, motherfucker, 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:54.360 and your pockets of thoughts. So good at podcasting. This 0:00:54.440 --> 0:01:04.720 is really amazing, real, Yeah, you know, life is Cody Katie. 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:08.640 Did you know there's an n f T band? Now? Okay? 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:18.360 Sorely he can't even he can't even wait to share this. 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:20.639 I don't. I don't know what this story is, so happy, 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:24.280 So if you don't, If you spend any time on 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:26.400 social media, you're probably aware that like n f T 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:30.400 s or a thing, and for reasons that are knowable 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:33.760 unto not even God. The most popular ones are a 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:39.960 bunch of procedurally generated, um almost identical cartoons of apes 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:43.280 in various clothing like it's the same basic ape image, 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:45.760 and some will have laser shooting out of their eyes, 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:48.760 and yeah, some will have party hats and some have 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.280 sold for I think the most one sold for five 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:57.120 million dollars um and now it didn't it didn't for 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:01.400 real sell because what you do these things, well yeah, well, 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:03.200 I mean yeah, what you do with these things is 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:06.320 you own one and you either have a separate quality, 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:09.440 like pay someone to buy it for slightly more than 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:10.880 a certain amount of money and you give him a 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:13.520 kickback whatever. Like there's a couple of ways to do it, 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:17.360 but it's just this process of people like by pulling 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:19.760 it like like starting with like you know, you get 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:22.120 up to the first ten, fifteen thousand or whatever like that, 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:24.400 by kind of using your own money to establish that 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:27.520 it has value. And because of the blockchain, the transactions 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:29.360 where this is you selling it to you or a 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:33.280 proxy over and over again, those transactions like are registered 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:35.560 on the blockchain, so it looks like, oh wow, people 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:38.440 have just been progressively paying more for it. The values 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:42.720 like quadrupled in three days. I should throw down money 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.040 right now, and then suddenly no one's willing to buy 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.200 it because there's not like actual demand for this, which 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:50.600 is why Logan Paul paid seven thousand for an n 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:53.120 f T that he can't sell for like or last 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:55.880 I checked, he was unable to sell it and the 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.200 one that was five hut forty million dollars. It was 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.920 found because whoever did deal wasn't being careful enough. He 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:05.079 like bought it as with a separate wallet and then 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.919 transferred it back to his original wallet, which people could see. 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.320 So I guess you could say the strength of the 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:14.079 blockchain is that people were able to find out pretty quickly. Oh, 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:17.120 this guy conned everybody. He's just buying his own thing 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:20.080 to raise up the price. But on the other hand, um, 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:23.000 it doesn't seem to have stopped the irrational exuberance over 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:27.040 cartoon pictures of monkeys selling for millions of dollars as 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:30.519 part of a money laundering scheme. So now Universal Music 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:35.520 Group has bought up four of these like monkey pictures. 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:38.720 The specific thing therefrom is called the Board a Board 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.120 a pyacht Club, which is one of the n f 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:43.560 T projects that like there's a little more of an 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.280 actual thing going on, and that having an n f 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:49.280 T like you get into this digital community and ship 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.720 like there's some perks that aren't just you own a 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:54.920 link to a drawing um and for whatever reason people 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.760 are Universal has decided this is a good thing to 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:00.160 bet on, so they bought like a handful of these 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:02.520 and f T s, and then they found musicians. They 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.720 basically made the monkeys like the band, but they're also 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:08.560 of n FT images, out of n f T images 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:13.960 of monkeys, um, and now they're they're doing a musical thing. 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:16.400 It's probably gonna be like a shitty gorilla's rip off, 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:22.360 right or the monkeys, I mean the monkeys, Yeah, mash up. 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:26.600 I could get behind that. I can't behind any of this. 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:32.440 It's stupid, it's incredibly right. Have you seen the ad 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:35.880 for the official n f T TV show What Shut 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:39.880 the funk Up? Oh? Yeah, I'm playing this. We're playing 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:41.880 the audio from this in the fucking episode. I'm gonna 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.719 drop it in. So this is a ship like again, 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:46.400 it's another one of these things where a group of 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:51.320 people with some actual money. Um potentially they got rich 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:53.040 in en I don't know, but like they've got enough 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:58.080 to put together a little animation. Um, and they're advertising 0:04:58.080 --> 0:04:59.960 a TV show made up of n f T s 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.799 that people bought and like licensed to make the show. 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:05.720 Because not this, Every n FC doesn't work this way. 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:07.360 The n f T on its own confers the right 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:10.520 to nothing. But like where the link is stored um, 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:13.120 but the board apes in particular, when you buy one 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:16.080 of these, you get the ability to like sell the 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:20.760 rights to this procedurally generated ape image, which are deliberately 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:23.320 the laziest things in the world. They're not characters, they're 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:27.359 just like crude images in anyway, some I'm sure grifters. 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:29.239 I'm certain this is going to fall apart as a grift. 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:31.960 But they had enough actual money or or enough people 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:34.320 who believed in the vision that they put together this 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:37.679 trailer for a cartoon TV show based off like four 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:39.839 licensed n f T s, like three of them are 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:43.360 apes and one of them is identical drawings of lions basically, 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:45.600 So I'm just I'm gonna play or we're gonna play 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:48.839 this now. I hate explaining this because it's so stupid, 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:51.680 but it continues to be a fighting thing. So I'm 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.920 a good job of like not knowing enough about this 0:05:56.000 --> 0:06:00.280 to get mad. It's it's it's infuriating. I am a 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:05.240 furious by it. It's not even infuriating because of like 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:08.359 the environmental cost. Like yes, there's a separate place in 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:11.520 my head that's angry about that, because like a billion 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.560 things people do have horrible making normal movies has horrible 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:16.880 environmental costs, right, Like we do a lot of ship 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:19.920 that's bad for the environment. That's not the specific reason 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.400 that I hate n f T s. The specific reason 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.080 I hate a f is because how fucking stupid they are. 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:29.520 It's so stupid and boring and empty and like it 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:31.920 just isn't the right word. Yeah, I hate to sound 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:35.800 money on it, but like your grandparents, like just not 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:41.400 understanding the appeal, but really, really, what's the appeal? Um? Yeah, 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:44.400 play this trailer. I mean the appeal is making money 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:47.000 for the people who get really, Yeah, let's watch let's 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:52.600 watch this cartoon masterpiece. One am I reading this right? 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:55.640 I'm doing a video of that Monkeys going to space? 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:58.680 Oh my god? Whatever, whatever, it gets me paid, right, 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:07.120 we having me. It's the year Earth is dying. Humans 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:13.960 fucked up real bad, Michael Jackson bad. But there's still home. 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:23.880 Where there's an ape. There's a way. Come on, that's 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:27.560 a dog. Yeah, it's because the dog and I'm guessing 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:32.960 the Red Ape family coming soon. I don't know what 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:36.440 I looked at. How you feeling about that, Cody? You 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.760 look like you're about to have an aneurysm am, I 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:45.440 oh god, it's a combination so many things that Yeah, 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:49.800 like it's nothing, it's nothing. What was that? It's what 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:55.280 it was like, it's a bunch of the spaceship was 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:59.040 called the musk one. Yeah, and the pictures of them 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:04.800 looking out spaceship windows and trailer the laziest animation and 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.640 it's it's not I'm not talking about like like you 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:09.640 watch an old cartoon like The flint Stones, and like 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:11.760 the animation the things that can make the characters do 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.320 is kind of primitive to today, and like there's kind 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:16.920 of a charm to that. This isn't charming. This looks 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:21.240 like something somebody put together on a laptop for because 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:26.119 that's what they did. It's charming. The Flintstones is charming 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:29.720 because that was not lazy in any capacity. That's where 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:33.040 we were at. Like that was a lot of work 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:39.320 to make. Um, this was not. I hate that so much. 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:44.079 And uh, it's just what is it about? What is like? 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:47.640 What is it about? What? Who is writing? There's no 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:51.160 hint of the plot other than the world destroyed? Yeah. 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:54.320 Also like where there's a what was it? Where there's 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:57.520 a h an ape, there's a way, yeah, something like that, 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:04.200 where there's not an ape, like, come on, yeah, they're 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:06.760 they're they're not great writers. I mean, it's it's this 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:11.000 thing where they have this all consuming vision. The people 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:12.960 who are like because it's a it's a mix of 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:14.600 people in n f T s of like people who 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:16.880 are just laundering money, right, and and they're just like, 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:18.760 well this is this is a great way to launder money, 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.360 or people who are good con artists and are like, well, 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.360 I can make and a lot of people have pulled 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:27.760 off multimillion dollar cons by like creating a line of 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:29.880 n f T s and then taking all of the money, 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:33.240 um and not delivering any of the promised features. Like 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.000 it happens all the time in this world. It's just 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:39.800 this like stupid. It's also they're so insistent the people 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:42.960 who are true believers, because that's most of like the marks, right, 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.679 Like the people who just want you see this as 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:48.040 a money making venture are using the people who think 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:50.440 that this is going to be all of society as marks. 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:53.040 And I would feel worse for those people if this 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.480 wasn't their vision of all of society, if like they 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:57.000 weren't the kind of people who would look at some 0:09:57.040 --> 0:10:00.120 ship like this and be like, oh okay, the or 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.679 or or like this is a good future where like 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:06.840 we randomly generate images of apes and cast them in 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:13.040 cartoon shows and and have that be our currency. Right, 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:16.040 And it's not this on its own, because it's like, yeah, 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.840 I'm sure at some point there will be completely computer 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:22.800 generated plots and actors and voice actors and the whole 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:26.240 whole stories that human beings never had a hand in touching. 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:28.800 And maybe they'll just be interesting because of how ridiculous 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:32.079 and unhinged they are, certainly at first, But like, this 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:35.400 isn't fun, it isn't kitchy. It's just crap. It's just 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:39.240 they've invented away to kill more trees to make crap. 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:42.040 It's like a first draft of a sketch that you 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:47.480 make when you're just out of college. Yeah, and yeah, 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:51.680 and and in fairness, this has seventy nine, which gives 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:53.920 you some idea of like number one, what a con 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:55.959 and f t s are like the big companies that 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:58.400 are getting in on this, I think are getting fleeced 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.760 like a lot of the little people, because the numbers 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.320 that some of these are selling for have convinced people like, Okay, 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:06.120 this is a real thing, or at least real for 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:09.120 a while. But this is a small mean. This video 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.800 has seventy nine thousand views, right, and most of them 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:14.040 are people making fun of it. It has four hundred 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:16.800 and four likes and twenty nine thousand down earth four 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.559 and four up votes in twenty nine thousand down votes, 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:24.479 which is an amazing ratio. That's wow, that's incredible. Yeah, yeah, 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:28.440 it's just anyway. The good news is that the new 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.720 whatever spending bill that just came out, the big, the big, 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:33.920 you know, Biden's very happy about it. The thing of 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:38.559 the jig um, it's better infrastructure. There's some ship. The 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:41.120 ship I think it's in that bill. It maybe just 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:43.200 getting passed around the same time. But there's some restrictions 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:46.320 on what n f T s. They're not restrictions, there's 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:48.760 clarification as to how they're being treated. Because a lot 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:50.719 of critics of n f T have been saying, this 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:54.040 is just unlicensed securities trading. You're just you're just trading 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:58.920 securities without a license, um, and you're calling it something else. 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:02.240 And now the government has said, hey, yeah, you got 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.240 to treat these like securities, which means when you sell 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.000 one to somebody, you have to have an actual person, 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:10.440 you have to provide a person's information to the government 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:12.840 as to who that sale was, which means you can't 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.560 anonymously pay people to just like bid things up as 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:19.000 easily because you're also paying more than thirty taxes or 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:20.599 I think it's about that much on like that the 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:24.360 biggest ones these you're paying taxes on these for every transaction, 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:26.360 and they have to have the real names of real 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:29.079 people so that you can't The benefit of this from 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:32.080 a grifting standpoint was that since it stood outside of 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:35.800 the UH because like actual art, like real art is 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:38.360 used for money laundering all the fucking time. Um it's 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:40.520 been a huge problem, and a bunch of laws it 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:42.520 came in and safeguards were put in the place to 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:44.800 reduce the ability of art sales to work in the 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:47.240 same way that I explained in f T s work. 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:51.080 And now the situation is that, um, like for a 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:53.400 while n f T s were kind of nobody was 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:55.840 looking at them or the government was not taking action 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.760 on anything, so you could have the same guy just 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:02.160 bid up as long he had other cryptot to uses 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:05.040 like the basis, just continually bit up the price of 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.280 whatever n f T he had into like wow, this 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.400 is worth twenty million dollars and look at all these 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:11.440 people who have been Maybe it's just this one guy. 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:14.200 He can't do that anymore because he's paying taxes on 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.960 every one of those transactions that exists to jack up 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.199 the price of the n f T and he has 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.600 to make it public. Who like, he has to he 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:23.640 has to at least let the government know who's um, 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.600 who's buying it, So like, yeah, it's just this guy 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:30.640 manipulating a security um anyway, so hopefully they're fucked. They've 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:33.240 got like a year I think before all this, all 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.640 this gets settled. But that's my n f T rant 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:43.000 for the day. How are you all feeling confused? But um, yeah, 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:45.760 it's not. You're not confused because you don't get it. 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.600 You're confused because it's just too stupid to be real. Yeah, 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.719 that's that's that's the only your confusion comes from a 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:53.959 place of like, how could how could it be this dumb? 0:13:54.080 --> 0:14:00.760 And that's exactly right. I yeah, this sp a man 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:04.400 on the But I've gotten more and more comfortable with 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:07.760 accepting that, Like over the past couple of years. It's 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.800 not just n f T s, it's lots of things 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.679 where I'm like everything, and so you just have to, um, 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:18.439 get comfortable with the unknowing. Yeah, embrace the stupid. Uh. 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:25.640 This ties into another piece of news because last last week, Um, 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:29.120 Richard Kianka, better known as Low Tax, founder of the 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:34.040 Something Awful forums, died Um and he had he was 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:38.480 not a good person. Uh was a spousal abuser on 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:42.120 a number of different cases, like squandered every opportunity in 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:44.480 piece of good fortune that came his way. But he 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:47.640 also invented, like the modern a huge chunk of like 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.920 digital culture that even persists in the social media era. 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:53.360 Like Something Awful is where memes in a lot of 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:55.440 cases got started. It's the first time you had like 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:58.400 people on an internet community like going into the real 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.000 world to like go after the Church of scientology and 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:04.040 ship like it. And it's very important piece of foundational 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:07.320 digital culture. And Richard Kianka had a motto for the 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.920 website that he ran into the ground called the Internet 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:14.800 makes you Stupid, which is the the only thing he 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:19.240 ever really got right. Um, it's so fucking dumb. Everything 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:22.000 is so goddamn stupid. And like n f t s, 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.640 they don't really like the The environmental impact is horrible. 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.160 If you view the total environmental impact of n f 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.880 t s on like a global scale, it's not problem 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:35.080 no one, but the sheer, the sheer scope of how 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.280 dumb in f t S are as a concept is 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:44.840 offensive to the soul. Yeah, and how much dumber they'll get. Yeah, 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:51.160 they'll only get yeah blasting off to Mars to Muskville. 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:55.800 They go to Muskville by the way. Yeah, of course 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:59.680 they go to chains by the way. Oh good, so 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:03.040 somebody knows what they're doing. That's good to hear. This 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:15.160 is so ridiculous, chicks, baby have you You should look 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.760 at the lazy Lions art if you really want to 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:25.440 get angry lions. Yeah, there's all the same. Yea procedurally 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:30.280 generated crap like someone drew one monkey and then plugged 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:33.600 a bunch of fucking accessories into an algorithm. Excuse me, 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:40.280 excuse me, they're idiots, right, Like it's not just lazy art, 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:43.840 it's like offensively shitty. I mean, it's like want to 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:51.400 embrace it, like, yeah, we don't give your eyes general 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:54.320 And I hate believe you said that I should look 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:59.320 at these you, I there's something important I haven't quite 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:01.480 figured out how to write about this yet and like 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:05.560 what what this is all kind of like swirling around 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:12.040 in my head for me, But like it's just I 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.960 I thinks, as a student of history, you have to 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:18.480 avoid acting as if there's a privileged position within time 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:21.000 to stand from right in terms of like making judgments 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:23.639 about things and how dumb things are. And it is 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.840 true that incredibly dumb things we're have been going on 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.320 all throughout history, and that's that's made up the majority 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:33.240 of international relations at least, is very dumb things. But 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:37.879 I'm not a historian, but I am a student. I 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:40.720 do study history quite a lot, and this is one 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:42.879 of the dumbest things I've ever heard of people doing. 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:45.560 Like We've done a lot of stupid stuff, but this 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.359 is so fucking dumb. Well, what it really is is 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:53.560 an alarming sign of our devolution, evolution whatever you want 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:58.119 to call it. Um culturally, I don't know if that's 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.440 the case. I think this is the way things go, 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:05.399 you don't think. I think devolution again is kind of 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:08.800 acting from within a privileged position in time and and 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.960 taking the stance that, like something else that I experienced 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:15.000 some other moment in history, I think was better now 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:18.399 for these reasons, and so I guess kind of the 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:20.919 way I prefer to look at it is not that 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:25.520 like this is bad because things were better before, but 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:31.120 like the stupidity of this, um would not have been 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:34.560 possible in another era, the kind of we we invented 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.040 a new kind of dumb for this. Right throughout history, 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.360 people invent new kinds of stupid, And this is like, 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:42.160 this is something new being born right now. We haven't 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:45.440 fully seen the shape of this kind of stupid yet. Sure, 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:49.840 that's a better way of approaching it than just devolution, 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:52.720 that's the jokey thing. But you know, yeah, this is 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:57.679 a choice people are trying to make. Yeah, the direction 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:02.679 that we are going used to like people and like 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:07.120 influencers and like social capital tied up to it, and like, well, 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:09.760 and I guess what's scary is like this might work. 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:13.359 It might be in terms of the metrics by which 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:18.360 you people govern society. Um, this might they might decide, like, Nope, 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:21.679 this was a great idea. Burning up huge chunks of 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:25.240 carbon into the atmosphere in order to make procedurally generated 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:29.040 monkey pictures into lazy cartoons is the way we want 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:31.840 the human race to work. I mean, just a general 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:36.000 I know, I know what might happen, we might be 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:39.480 seeing this happen, but in general, it just astounds me 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:42.680 that a whole new industry has emerged that is very 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:46.160 bad for the planet, despite the conversations that we all 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:50.240 have every day that we're like, yeah, let's get behind 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:51.959 this thing. And I know that in the scheme of things, 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:53.800 there's lots of stuff that are bad for the planet, 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:56.720 just like you laid out earlier. But a new thing 0:19:56.800 --> 0:20:00.440 that we all like, this is so much. It's one thing. 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:03.400 It's one thing to give, it's one thing to kill 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:06.520 the world by giving human beings what we've always wanted, 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:09.680 which is like a horse that can never die, um 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:12.240 and protects us from the rain and plays our favorite 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:15.720 music right like that, And that's that's dumb. That was 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:18.840 a bad decision, but it mad like historically you can 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:21.439 see like it's sathing with like air travel horrible for 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:24.480 the environment. It's fulfilling a dream man has had for 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:28.119 going back now air travel as a person to like, 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:31.760 so we're doing horrible damage to the environment in order 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:39.520 to turn pictures of monkeys into commodities. Why terrible pictures 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:46.760 of monkeys alright, terrible, horrific pictures of monkeys. Um. Anyway, 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:50.359 that's that's all I have to say. Yeah, it was 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:54.160 a lot, and I thank you. I'm sorry. Break, don't 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:57.800 be sorry. You just we get to take a break, 0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:09.000 you know, we get to take a break together. Everything 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:14.359 all right, We're back. And I think during the break 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:17.000 I came up. I came to the conclusion, like, what 0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:18.879 is so offensive about n f t S. To me, 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:22.879 it's the it is the end of all pretense of 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:25.359 the American dream in terms in terms of like the 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:28.200 pretense that like in the United States, you can be 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:32.440 born poor and you can, through good decisions and careful work, 0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:35.679 become a business owner and own your own business and 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:38.800 make and raise your your class and your position in society, 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:41.880 and like anyone can do that. That's like the that's 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:47.600 the American myth, right um. And so past scams like 0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:49.919 am Weigh and the like latched onto that myth by 0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:51.040 saying like this is the way for you to make 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:54.160 your own business and raise to become a rich person, 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:56.439 raise out of the working class, and you can do 0:21:56.480 --> 0:21:58.240 it if you just work hard enough. And that was 0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:00.960 a scam. The whole thing was always a scam. Like 0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:03.640 even outside I am way. But it was a scam 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:06.239 with an understandable dream attached, which is like, I I 0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:10.200 want to believe that with hard work, I can improve 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:12.520 my position in the world. That's an empowering thing to 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:14.080 believe when you come out of the beliefs that people 0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:17.119 had before about like, yeah, your social position is born 0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:19.240 and you it cannot be moved. You know, you're a surf. 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:21.600 You'll die a surf. That's the way it works. You know, 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:24.440 there's there's absolutely no mobility coming out of that world. 0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:28.400 It was like this big deal and every scam that's 0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:30.960 hit this country since it's like latched onto parts of it. 0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:32.800 But there was there was a core there of like 0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:36.159 this dream of through your own effort rising ahead in 0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:38.960 the world, as opposed to the kind of the core 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:40.920 of the n f T scam isn't through your own 0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:43.160 effort you can rise ahead in the world. It's if 0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:46.280 you buy the right procedurally generated monkey picture, you could 0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:48.760 become a billionaire. That's the promise of n f T 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:51.159 S and I. It's how to make the most amount 0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:53.920 of money with the least amount of effort you can 0:22:53.960 --> 0:23:00.639 get you can it's it's it's my nephew, you who's 0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:04.480 way too old to believe that Elon Musk is very 0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:11.600 cool to have billions of dollars. Um, what else should 0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:14.600 we talk about? I don't know, real quick. When you 0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:17.399 when you, if you guys did make the mistake of 0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:21.560 googling the lazy lions and seeing the images and the 0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:26.719 image search, if you scroll down, you will be treated 0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:30.280