Speaker 1: Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production of I Heart
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Speaker 1: is really amazing, real, Yeah, you know, life is Cody Katie.
Speaker 1: Did you know there's an n f T band? Now? Okay?
Speaker 1: Sorely he can't even he can't even wait to share this.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know what this story is, so happy,
Speaker 1: So if you don't, If you spend any time on
Speaker 1: social media, you're probably aware that like n f T
Speaker 1: s or a thing, and for reasons that are knowable
Speaker 1: unto not even God. The most popular ones are a
Speaker 1: bunch of procedurally generated, um almost identical cartoons of apes
Speaker 1: in various clothing like it's the same basic ape image,
Speaker 1: and some will have laser shooting out of their eyes,
Speaker 1: and yeah, some will have party hats and some have
Speaker 1: sold for I think the most one sold for five
Speaker 1: million dollars um and now it didn't it didn't for
Speaker 1: real sell because what you do these things, well yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, what you do with these things is
Speaker 1: you own one and you either have a separate quality,
Speaker 1: like pay someone to buy it for slightly more than
Speaker 1: a certain amount of money and you give him a
Speaker 1: kickback whatever. Like there's a couple of ways to do it,
Speaker 1: but it's just this process of people like by pulling
Speaker 1: it like like starting with like you know, you get
Speaker 1: up to the first ten, fifteen thousand or whatever like that,
Speaker 1: by kind of using your own money to establish that
Speaker 1: it has value. And because of the blockchain, the transactions
Speaker 1: where this is you selling it to you or a
Speaker 1: proxy over and over again, those transactions like are registered
Speaker 1: on the blockchain, so it looks like, oh wow, people
Speaker 1: have just been progressively paying more for it. The values
Speaker 1: like quadrupled in three days. I should throw down money
Speaker 1: right now, and then suddenly no one's willing to buy
Speaker 1: it because there's not like actual demand for this, which
Speaker 1: is why Logan Paul paid seven thousand for an n
Speaker 1: f T that he can't sell for like or last
Speaker 1: I checked, he was unable to sell it and the
Speaker 1: one that was five hut forty million dollars. It was
Speaker 1: found because whoever did deal wasn't being careful enough. He
Speaker 1: like bought it as with a separate wallet and then
Speaker 1: transferred it back to his original wallet, which people could see.
Speaker 1: So I guess you could say the strength of the
Speaker 1: blockchain is that people were able to find out pretty quickly. Oh,
Speaker 1: this guy conned everybody. He's just buying his own thing
Speaker 1: to raise up the price. But on the other hand, um,
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem to have stopped the irrational exuberance over
Speaker 1: cartoon pictures of monkeys selling for millions of dollars as
Speaker 1: part of a money laundering scheme. So now Universal Music
Speaker 1: Group has bought up four of these like monkey pictures.
Speaker 1: The specific thing therefrom is called the Board a Board
Speaker 1: a pyacht Club, which is one of the n f
Speaker 1: T projects that like there's a little more of an
Speaker 1: actual thing going on, and that having an n f
Speaker 1: T like you get into this digital community and ship
Speaker 1: like there's some perks that aren't just you own a
Speaker 1: link to a drawing um and for whatever reason people
Speaker 1: are Universal has decided this is a good thing to
Speaker 1: bet on, so they bought like a handful of these
Speaker 1: and f T s, and then they found musicians. They
Speaker 1: basically made the monkeys like the band, but they're also
Speaker 1: of n FT images, out of n f T images
Speaker 1: of monkeys, um, and now they're they're doing a musical thing.
Speaker 1: It's probably gonna be like a shitty gorilla's rip off,
Speaker 1: right or the monkeys, I mean the monkeys, Yeah, mash up.
Speaker 1: I could get behind that. I can't behind any of this.
Speaker 1: It's stupid, it's incredibly right. Have you seen the ad
Speaker 1: for the official n f T TV show What Shut
Speaker 1: the funk Up? Oh? Yeah, I'm playing this. We're playing
Speaker 1: the audio from this in the fucking episode. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: drop it in. So this is a ship like again,
Speaker 1: it's another one of these things where a group of
Speaker 1: people with some actual money. Um potentially they got rich
Speaker 1: in en I don't know, but like they've got enough
Speaker 1: to put together a little animation. Um, and they're advertising
Speaker 1: a TV show made up of n f T s
Speaker 1: that people bought and like licensed to make the show.
Speaker 1: Because not this, Every n FC doesn't work this way.
Speaker 1: The n f T on its own confers the right
Speaker 1: to nothing. But like where the link is stored um,
Speaker 1: but the board apes in particular, when you buy one
Speaker 1: of these, you get the ability to like sell the
Speaker 1: rights to this procedurally generated ape image, which are deliberately
Speaker 1: the laziest things in the world. They're not characters, they're
Speaker 1: just like crude images in anyway, some I'm sure grifters.
Speaker 1: I'm certain this is going to fall apart as a grift.
Speaker 1: But they had enough actual money or or enough people
Speaker 1: who believed in the vision that they put together this
Speaker 1: trailer for a cartoon TV show based off like four
Speaker 1: licensed n f T s, like three of them are
Speaker 1: apes and one of them is identical drawings of lions basically,
Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm gonna play or we're gonna play
Speaker 1: this now. I hate explaining this because it's so stupid,
Speaker 1: but it continues to be a fighting thing. So I'm
Speaker 1: a good job of like not knowing enough about this
Speaker 1: to get mad. It's it's it's infuriating. I am a
Speaker 1: furious by it. It's not even infuriating because of like
Speaker 1: the environmental cost. Like yes, there's a separate place in
Speaker 1: my head that's angry about that, because like a billion
Speaker 1: things people do have horrible making normal movies has horrible
Speaker 1: environmental costs, right, Like we do a lot of ship
Speaker 1: that's bad for the environment. That's not the specific reason
Speaker 1: that I hate n f T s. The specific reason
Speaker 1: I hate a f is because how fucking stupid they are.
Speaker 1: It's so stupid and boring and empty and like it
Speaker 1: just isn't the right word. Yeah, I hate to sound
Speaker 1: money on it, but like your grandparents, like just not
Speaker 1: understanding the appeal, but really, really, what's the appeal? Um? Yeah,
Speaker 1: play this trailer. I mean the appeal is making money
Speaker 1: for the people who get really, Yeah, let's watch let's
Speaker 1: watch this cartoon masterpiece. One am I reading this right?
Speaker 1: I'm doing a video of that Monkeys going to space?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Whatever, whatever, it gets me paid, right,
Speaker 1: we having me. It's the year Earth is dying. Humans
Speaker 1: fucked up real bad, Michael Jackson bad. But there's still home.
Speaker 1: Where there's an ape. There's a way. Come on, that's
Speaker 1: a dog. Yeah, it's because the dog and I'm guessing
Speaker 1: the Red Ape family coming soon. I don't know what
Speaker 1: I looked at. How you feeling about that, Cody? You
Speaker 1: look like you're about to have an aneurysm am, I
Speaker 1: oh god, it's a combination so many things that Yeah,
Speaker 1: like it's nothing, it's nothing. What was that? It's what
Speaker 1: it was like, it's a bunch of the spaceship was
Speaker 1: called the musk one. Yeah, and the pictures of them
Speaker 1: looking out spaceship windows and trailer the laziest animation and
Speaker 1: it's it's not I'm not talking about like like you
Speaker 1: watch an old cartoon like The flint Stones, and like
Speaker 1: the animation the things that can make the characters do
Speaker 1: is kind of primitive to today, and like there's kind
Speaker 1: of a charm to that. This isn't charming. This looks
Speaker 1: like something somebody put together on a laptop for because
Speaker 1: that's what they did. It's charming. The Flintstones is charming
Speaker 1: because that was not lazy in any capacity. That's where
Speaker 1: we were at. Like that was a lot of work
Speaker 1: to make. Um, this was not. I hate that so much.
Speaker 1: And uh, it's just what is it about? What is like?
Speaker 1: What is it about? What? Who is writing? There's no
Speaker 1: hint of the plot other than the world destroyed? Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also like where there's a what was it? Where there's
Speaker 1: a h an ape, there's a way, yeah, something like that,
Speaker 1: where there's not an ape, like, come on, yeah, they're
Speaker 1: they're they're not great writers. I mean, it's it's this
Speaker 1: thing where they have this all consuming vision. The people
Speaker 1: who are like because it's a it's a mix of
Speaker 1: people in n f T s of like people who
Speaker 1: are just laundering money, right, and and they're just like,
Speaker 1: well this is this is a great way to launder money,
Speaker 1: or people who are good con artists and are like, well,
Speaker 1: I can make and a lot of people have pulled
Speaker 1: off multimillion dollar cons by like creating a line of
Speaker 1: n f T s and then taking all of the money,
Speaker 1: um and not delivering any of the promised features. Like
Speaker 1: it happens all the time in this world. It's just
Speaker 1: this like stupid. It's also they're so insistent the people
Speaker 1: who are true believers, because that's most of like the marks, right,
Speaker 1: Like the people who just want you see this as
Speaker 1: a money making venture are using the people who think
Speaker 1: that this is going to be all of society as marks.
Speaker 1: And I would feel worse for those people if this
Speaker 1: wasn't their vision of all of society, if like they
Speaker 1: weren't the kind of people who would look at some
Speaker 1: ship like this and be like, oh okay, the or
Speaker 1: or or like this is a good future where like
Speaker 1: we randomly generate images of apes and cast them in
Speaker 1: cartoon shows and and have that be our currency. Right,
Speaker 1: And it's not this on its own, because it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure at some point there will be completely computer
Speaker 1: generated plots and actors and voice actors and the whole
Speaker 1: whole stories that human beings never had a hand in touching.
Speaker 1: And maybe they'll just be interesting because of how ridiculous
Speaker 1: and unhinged they are, certainly at first, But like, this
Speaker 1: isn't fun, it isn't kitchy. It's just crap. It's just
Speaker 1: they've invented away to kill more trees to make crap.
Speaker 1: It's like a first draft of a sketch that you
Speaker 1: make when you're just out of college. Yeah, and yeah,
Speaker 1: and and in fairness, this has seventy nine, which gives
Speaker 1: you some idea of like number one, what a con
Speaker 1: and f t s are like the big companies that
Speaker 1: are getting in on this, I think are getting fleeced
Speaker 1: like a lot of the little people, because the numbers
Speaker 1: that some of these are selling for have convinced people like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a real thing, or at least real for
Speaker 1: a while. But this is a small mean. This video
Speaker 1: has seventy nine thousand views, right, and most of them
Speaker 1: are people making fun of it. It has four hundred
Speaker 1: and four likes and twenty nine thousand down earth four
Speaker 1: and four up votes in twenty nine thousand down votes,
Speaker 1: which is an amazing ratio. That's wow, that's incredible. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just anyway. The good news is that the new
Speaker 1: whatever spending bill that just came out, the big, the big,
Speaker 1: you know, Biden's very happy about it. The thing of
Speaker 1: the jig um, it's better infrastructure. There's some ship. The
Speaker 1: ship I think it's in that bill. It maybe just
Speaker 1: getting passed around the same time. But there's some restrictions
Speaker 1: on what n f T s. They're not restrictions, there's
Speaker 1: clarification as to how they're being treated. Because a lot
Speaker 1: of critics of n f T have been saying, this
Speaker 1: is just unlicensed securities trading. You're just you're just trading
Speaker 1: securities without a license, um, and you're calling it something else.
Speaker 1: And now the government has said, hey, yeah, you got
Speaker 1: to treat these like securities, which means when you sell
Speaker 1: one to somebody, you have to have an actual person,
Speaker 1: you have to provide a person's information to the government
Speaker 1: as to who that sale was, which means you can't
Speaker 1: anonymously pay people to just like bid things up as
Speaker 1: easily because you're also paying more than thirty taxes or
Speaker 1: I think it's about that much on like that the
Speaker 1: biggest ones these you're paying taxes on these for every transaction,
Speaker 1: and they have to have the real names of real
Speaker 1: people so that you can't The benefit of this from
Speaker 1: a grifting standpoint was that since it stood outside of
Speaker 1: the UH because like actual art, like real art is
Speaker 1: used for money laundering all the fucking time. Um it's
Speaker 1: been a huge problem, and a bunch of laws it
Speaker 1: came in and safeguards were put in the place to
Speaker 1: reduce the ability of art sales to work in the
Speaker 1: same way that I explained in f T s work.
Speaker 1: And now the situation is that, um, like for a
Speaker 1: while n f T s were kind of nobody was
Speaker 1: looking at them or the government was not taking action
Speaker 1: on anything, so you could have the same guy just
Speaker 1: bid up as long he had other cryptot to uses
Speaker 1: like the basis, just continually bit up the price of
Speaker 1: whatever n f T he had into like wow, this
Speaker 1: is worth twenty million dollars and look at all these
Speaker 1: people who have been Maybe it's just this one guy.
Speaker 1: He can't do that anymore because he's paying taxes on
Speaker 1: every one of those transactions that exists to jack up
Speaker 1: the price of the n f T and he has
Speaker 1: to make it public. Who like, he has to he
Speaker 1: has to at least let the government know who's um,
Speaker 1: who's buying it, So like, yeah, it's just this guy
Speaker 1: manipulating a security um anyway, so hopefully they're fucked. They've
Speaker 1: got like a year I think before all this, all
Speaker 1: this gets settled. But that's my n f T rant
Speaker 1: for the day. How are you all feeling confused? But um, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not. You're not confused because you don't get it.
Speaker 1: You're confused because it's just too stupid to be real. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's the only your confusion comes from a
Speaker 1: place of like, how could how could it be this dumb?
Speaker 1: And that's exactly right. I yeah, this sp a man
Speaker 1: on the But I've gotten more and more comfortable with
Speaker 1: accepting that, Like over the past couple of years. It's
Speaker 1: not just n f T s, it's lots of things
Speaker 1: where I'm like everything, and so you just have to, um,
Speaker 1: get comfortable with the unknowing. Yeah, embrace the stupid. Uh.
Speaker 1: This ties into another piece of news because last last week, Um,
Speaker 1: Richard Kianka, better known as Low Tax, founder of the
Speaker 1: Something Awful forums, died Um and he had he was
Speaker 1: not a good person. Uh was a spousal abuser on
Speaker 1: a number of different cases, like squandered every opportunity in
Speaker 1: piece of good fortune that came his way. But he
Speaker 1: also invented, like the modern a huge chunk of like
Speaker 1: digital culture that even persists in the social media era.
Speaker 1: Like Something Awful is where memes in a lot of
Speaker 1: cases got started. It's the first time you had like
Speaker 1: people on an internet community like going into the real
Speaker 1: world to like go after the Church of scientology and
Speaker 1: ship like it. And it's very important piece of foundational
Speaker 1: digital culture. And Richard Kianka had a motto for the
Speaker 1: website that he ran into the ground called the Internet
Speaker 1: makes you Stupid, which is the the only thing he
Speaker 1: ever really got right. Um, it's so fucking dumb. Everything
Speaker 1: is so goddamn stupid. And like n f t s,
Speaker 1: they don't really like the The environmental impact is horrible.
Speaker 1: If you view the total environmental impact of n f
Speaker 1: t s on like a global scale, it's not problem
Speaker 1: no one, but the sheer, the sheer scope of how
Speaker 1: dumb in f t S are as a concept is
Speaker 1: offensive to the soul. Yeah, and how much dumber they'll get. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they'll only get yeah blasting off to Mars to Muskville.
Speaker 1: They go to Muskville by the way. Yeah, of course
Speaker 1: they go to chains by the way. Oh good, so
Speaker 1: somebody knows what they're doing. That's good to hear. This
Speaker 1: is so ridiculous, chicks, baby have you You should look
Speaker 1: at the lazy Lions art if you really want to
Speaker 1: get angry lions. Yeah, there's all the same. Yea procedurally
Speaker 1: generated crap like someone drew one monkey and then plugged
Speaker 1: a bunch of fucking accessories into an algorithm. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: excuse me, they're idiots, right, Like it's not just lazy art,
Speaker 1: it's like offensively shitty. I mean, it's like want to
Speaker 1: embrace it, like, yeah, we don't give your eyes general
Speaker 1: And I hate believe you said that I should look
Speaker 1: at these you, I there's something important I haven't quite
Speaker 1: figured out how to write about this yet and like
Speaker 1: what what this is all kind of like swirling around
Speaker 1: in my head for me, But like it's just I
Speaker 1: I thinks, as a student of history, you have to
Speaker 1: avoid acting as if there's a privileged position within time
Speaker 1: to stand from right in terms of like making judgments
Speaker 1: about things and how dumb things are. And it is
Speaker 1: true that incredibly dumb things we're have been going on
Speaker 1: all throughout history, and that's that's made up the majority
Speaker 1: of international relations at least, is very dumb things. But
Speaker 1: I'm not a historian, but I am a student. I
Speaker 1: do study history quite a lot, and this is one
Speaker 1: of the dumbest things I've ever heard of people doing.
Speaker 1: Like We've done a lot of stupid stuff, but this
Speaker 1: is so fucking dumb. Well, what it really is is
Speaker 1: an alarming sign of our devolution, evolution whatever you want
Speaker 1: to call it. Um culturally, I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: the case. I think this is the way things go,
Speaker 1: you don't think. I think devolution again is kind of
Speaker 1: acting from within a privileged position in time and and
Speaker 1: taking the stance that, like something else that I experienced
Speaker 1: some other moment in history, I think was better now
Speaker 1: for these reasons, and so I guess kind of the
Speaker 1: way I prefer to look at it is not that
Speaker 1: like this is bad because things were better before, but
Speaker 1: like the stupidity of this, um would not have been
Speaker 1: possible in another era, the kind of we we invented
Speaker 1: a new kind of dumb for this. Right throughout history,
Speaker 1: people invent new kinds of stupid, And this is like,
Speaker 1: this is something new being born right now. We haven't
Speaker 1: fully seen the shape of this kind of stupid yet. Sure,
Speaker 1: that's a better way of approaching it than just devolution,
Speaker 1: that's the jokey thing. But you know, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: a choice people are trying to make. Yeah, the direction
Speaker 1: that we are going used to like people and like
Speaker 1: influencers and like social capital tied up to it, and like, well,
Speaker 1: and I guess what's scary is like this might work.
Speaker 1: It might be in terms of the metrics by which
Speaker 1: you people govern society. Um, this might they might decide, like, Nope,
Speaker 1: this was a great idea. Burning up huge chunks of
Speaker 1: carbon into the atmosphere in order to make procedurally generated
Speaker 1: monkey pictures into lazy cartoons is the way we want
Speaker 1: the human race to work. I mean, just a general
Speaker 1: I know, I know what might happen, we might be
Speaker 1: seeing this happen, but in general, it just astounds me
Speaker 1: that a whole new industry has emerged that is very
Speaker 1: bad for the planet, despite the conversations that we all
Speaker 1: have every day that we're like, yeah, let's get behind
Speaker 1: this thing. And I know that in the scheme of things,
Speaker 1: there's lots of stuff that are bad for the planet,
Speaker 1: just like you laid out earlier. But a new thing
Speaker 1: that we all like, this is so much. It's one thing.
Speaker 1: It's one thing to give, it's one thing to kill
Speaker 1: the world by giving human beings what we've always wanted,
Speaker 1: which is like a horse that can never die, um
Speaker 1: and protects us from the rain and plays our favorite
Speaker 1: music right like that, And that's that's dumb. That was
Speaker 1: a bad decision, but it mad like historically you can
Speaker 1: see like it's sathing with like air travel horrible for
Speaker 1: the environment. It's fulfilling a dream man has had for
Speaker 1: going back now air travel as a person to like,
Speaker 1: so we're doing horrible damage to the environment in order
Speaker 1: to turn pictures of monkeys into commodities. Why terrible pictures
Speaker 1: of monkeys alright, terrible, horrific pictures of monkeys. Um. Anyway,
Speaker 1: that's that's all I have to say. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: a lot, and I thank you. I'm sorry. Break, don't
Speaker 1: be sorry. You just we get to take a break,
Speaker 1: you know, we get to take a break together. Everything
Speaker 1: all right, We're back. And I think during the break
Speaker 1: I came up. I came to the conclusion, like, what
Speaker 1: is so offensive about n f t S. To me,
Speaker 1: it's the it is the end of all pretense of
Speaker 1: the American dream in terms in terms of like the
Speaker 1: pretense that like in the United States, you can be
Speaker 1: born poor and you can, through good decisions and careful work,
Speaker 1: become a business owner and own your own business and
Speaker 1: make and raise your your class and your position in society,
Speaker 1: and like anyone can do that. That's like the that's
Speaker 1: the American myth, right um. And so past scams like
Speaker 1: am Weigh and the like latched onto that myth by
Speaker 1: saying like this is the way for you to make
Speaker 1: your own business and raise to become a rich person,
Speaker 1: raise out of the working class, and you can do
Speaker 1: it if you just work hard enough. And that was
Speaker 1: a scam. The whole thing was always a scam. Like
Speaker 1: even outside I am way. But it was a scam
Speaker 1: with an understandable dream attached, which is like, I I
Speaker 1: want to believe that with hard work, I can improve
Speaker 1: my position in the world. That's an empowering thing to
Speaker 1: believe when you come out of the beliefs that people
Speaker 1: had before about like, yeah, your social position is born
Speaker 1: and you it cannot be moved. You know, you're a surf.
Speaker 1: You'll die a surf. That's the way it works. You know,
Speaker 1: there's there's absolutely no mobility coming out of that world.
Speaker 1: It was like this big deal and every scam that's
Speaker 1: hit this country since it's like latched onto parts of it.
Speaker 1: But there was there was a core there of like
Speaker 1: this dream of through your own effort rising ahead in
Speaker 1: the world, as opposed to the kind of the core
Speaker 1: of the n f T scam isn't through your own
Speaker 1: effort you can rise ahead in the world. It's if
Speaker 1: you buy the right procedurally generated monkey picture, you could
Speaker 1: become a billionaire. That's the promise of n f T
Speaker 1: S and I. It's how to make the most amount
Speaker 1: of money with the least amount of effort you can
Speaker 1: get you can it's it's it's my nephew, you who's
Speaker 1: way too old to believe that Elon Musk is very
Speaker 1: cool to have billions of dollars. Um, what else should
Speaker 1: we talk about? I don't know, real quick. When you
Speaker 1: when you, if you guys did make the mistake of
Speaker 1: googling the lazy lions and seeing the images and the
Speaker 1: image search, if you scroll down, you will be treated
Speaker 1: to actual pictures of lazy lions and it's really cute. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now that sounds like that sounds like a good thing
Speaker 1: to be trading around. That's just exactly I would I
Speaker 1: can imagine a utopian civilization in which human beings are
Speaker 1: able to like store the emotional and mental like data
Speaker 1: of seeing something for the first time and share that,
Speaker 1: and then the currency in that world does become the
Speaker 1: cutest things you've seen an animal done, because like then
Speaker 1: everyone can relive that moment that your cat fell in
Speaker 1: that ridiculous word whatever. That would be a much saner
Speaker 1: base for a system of currency. I think, um, just
Speaker 1: shop he's fucking I'm sorry, these fucking stupid apes in
Speaker 1: their stupid spaceship escaping Earth, which is destroyed. Why do
Speaker 1: you think the Earth is destroyed? Stid F. I just
Speaker 1: need to say we've we've spent so much time talking
Speaker 1: about a trailer that none of our listeners saw. They
Speaker 1: just listened to us react to it's fine, radio baby, Fine,
Speaker 1: let's let's talk about other things. Yeah, uh, Cody, you'd said, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: Well Alex Jones, guys, how about oh yeah he lost God?
Speaker 1: What is this his fourth case for his words once again?
Speaker 1: Um yeah, it's like it's uh, it's definitely not his first,
Speaker 1: probably not his last. Probably, Um yeah, he's found liable.
Speaker 1: Um by default. Umi, almost doesn't happen. Like it's very difficult,
Speaker 1: Like very rarely does a case like this end by default.
Speaker 1: It's like almost unheard of because it just means that
Speaker 1: the court kept saying, okay, as a result of this case,
Speaker 1: you are legally obligated to provide us with X. And
Speaker 1: Alex Jones and his lawyers always said no. The the
Speaker 1: guy they had acting as the representative of the company,
Speaker 1: like that's an official person you have to designate in
Speaker 1: this kind of a case. Is like who who is
Speaker 1: speaking for the company? The guy that they picked for
Speaker 1: that wasn't told that was his job when he went
Speaker 1: in to be the post. Like in the deposition, you
Speaker 1: can hear him find out that he's representing Knowledge Fights
Speaker 1: done some incredible coverage of this, but yeah, he's he
Speaker 1: keeps losing cases. Um, it should put him out of business.
Speaker 1: Uh thinkers business. Through this, I discovered that one of
Speaker 1: his companies it is called Free Speech Systems, which I
Speaker 1: guess I think it's kind of Ye, it's good stuff. Um,
Speaker 1: it's yeah, good stuff. I mean, this thing is discussing.
Speaker 1: I mean, I knew that this has been going on,
Speaker 1: but in this news breaking and reading through everything, I
Speaker 1: had forgotten just how disgusting it is. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: the shooting. This is from the a p. The shooting
Speaker 1: was portrayed on Jones's Infu Infu War shows a hoax
Speaker 1: involving actors aimed at increasing gun control. Jones has since
Speaker 1: acknowledged the schools shooting did occur, but families of the
Speaker 1: victims said that they have been subjected to harassment and
Speaker 1: death threats from Jones's followers because of the hoax conspiracy
Speaker 1: pushed on info Wars. I just stop to think about
Speaker 1: that for a moment, because we're talking about this and
Speaker 1: making jokes. But what this represent these people, I mean,
Speaker 1: the greatest tragedy and then to have years and years
Speaker 1: and years of this fucking clown making their life a
Speaker 1: living hell. Uh and way, there's no point here. I
Speaker 1: just feel like it's important to acknowledge what this is
Speaker 1: about and what happened here. Yeah, um it's a gross
Speaker 1: man and uh, you know, like the records that he
Speaker 1: was supposed to release were related to whether or not
Speaker 1: he profited from spreading about this. He wouldn't, so maybe
Speaker 1: he did from that. And they're gonna, you know, appeal
Speaker 1: this and everything and push for this, and they're just
Speaker 1: trying to say that there's no proof that we did this. Well,
Speaker 1: you're not providing proof that you didn't. Man, Yeah you
Speaker 1: I mean, Alex does this every time. It's like that.
Speaker 1: It's like when you bring up things that he said, um,
Speaker 1: in like criticizing him, he'll say, like if you play
Speaker 1: a clip from it, he'll say, it's taken out of context.
Speaker 1: Like it it doesn't matter. The only the only thing
Speaker 1: that matters from this is that fucking god willing they
Speaker 1: will destroy the ability of Info Was to operate as
Speaker 1: a company through the lawsuits as a result of this. Um.
Speaker 1: That that's all I think we can really get from it. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I so this is sort of related, um because the
Speaker 1: same same kind of little little monster. Um. I don't
Speaker 1: know if anyone else saw this. Uh Milo Unapolis in
Speaker 1: a minute is uh you know he's going through his
Speaker 1: like I'm no longer gay phase, like I'm converted and
Speaker 1: I'm straight now, Um, a reasonable like respectable guy now. Uh.
Speaker 1: He is currently selling uh little Virgin Mary statues on
Speaker 1: a church militant dot shop uh uvc type um the
Speaker 1: church militant test its own shopping network. Oh yeah, um.
Speaker 1: And it's him next to this like sixties seventy year
Speaker 1: old lady. Uh, just trying to sell these little merry statues. Um,
Speaker 1: as if nothing else happened before this. Um, it's very
Speaker 1: very funny. I don't know if you want to even
Speaker 1: like what's he being? So wait, how do they describe
Speaker 1: him on the channel, Like what is he? I haven't seen.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've seen selected clips, so I haven't
Speaker 1: seen like the introduction of this show, like Hi, I'm
Speaker 1: this person and here's Milo. Do not google him? But
Speaker 1: easier to uh to sell these for you. Um. It's
Speaker 1: very it's just very entertaining to watch if you have
Speaker 1: if you have the time, check out Milo Annapolis Christian
Speaker 1: Church militant YouTube shopping. Look at him sitting on this
Speaker 1: screen next that little old that old lady. It's so
Speaker 1: it's so weird, like to see this uh adoring virgins
Speaker 1: adoring virtue statue fifty. What a deal? What a deal?
Speaker 1: What a freaking deal? Right? Look at gross. It's not
Speaker 1: news and it's not super related, but uh they're the
Speaker 1: same person to me. Um, and good for him. I'm
Speaker 1: glad he's landing on his feet. Well, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just good to see someone working, you know, by
Speaker 1: that he's gotten got something going on, you know, he's yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's all over this channel dot shop. Um, that's bleak. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't want to help me determine something. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: there was this there's this fucking video going around from
Speaker 1: the Laura Ingram Show where it's rough. Um, it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be like the name of the segment is Numbers
Speaker 1: Don't Live youre was like woke free TV, and so
Speaker 1: I think it's about how uh woke TV is uh
Speaker 1: not getting good ratings or some ship. Um, that's what
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be about. This comes apparently just in
Speaker 1: the middle of of of the segment. Um, Yeah, is
Speaker 1: it another thing that we're gonna listen to? Yeah, we
Speaker 1: probably should. Yeah, yeah, I can't tell if it's a
Speaker 1: bit or not. Um, I have opinions on this, yeah earlier. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's going. I just checked it, like, I just saw
Speaker 1: it for the first time right before we started recording.
Speaker 1: So I had and it doesn't there doesn't seem to
Speaker 1: be Wait, is this the youth thing? Yeah? It is,
Speaker 1: it is. I just can't this a bit or real. No,
Speaker 1: it's fucking real, and it's really fucking funny. Okay, Jared, Katie,
Speaker 1: I'm so excited for you to see this. You know,
Speaker 1: I was watching an episode of You where measles came up.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait when did I mention measles? I don't
Speaker 1: know it was on you? What? What was on me?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Right? What? I never had
Speaker 1: the meas's on you? We never did. We never did
Speaker 1: a measles in vaccine episode of my Is this a joke?
Speaker 1: I don't know you're talking about? It was on you?
Speaker 1: It was on you. I never had Raymond, I've never
Speaker 1: had measles. What are you talking about? The stupid it
Speaker 1: was an episode of a show Laura, what's it called you?
Speaker 1: It's called you. I've never done a show on measles.
Speaker 1: I just completely called you on Netflix. There's a show
Speaker 1: called Lauring. I'm a Netflix. I'm moving home to Adele.
Speaker 1: I can't explain this to you, singer. Oh wow, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think it's real. I think it's fucking real.
Speaker 1: I think it's no that real. I think it's real.
Speaker 1: I think it's real. I think they're a debate about this.
Speaker 1: There's a hearty debate about this. Did she come out
Speaker 1: and be like I was joking or something, and like
Speaker 1: I understood the whole time because you didn't. You didn't
Speaker 1: you just you didn't she She seemed to be getting
Speaker 1: flustered a bit about it. It's it's it's clearly it's
Speaker 1: obviously an Abbot and Costello bit. I made a joke
Speaker 1: about that on Twitter that like, this is the Thousand
Speaker 1: Monkeys typewriters version of of of the works of Abbot
Speaker 1: and Costello. But that's also like the kind of harmless
Speaker 1: old timey comedy that a bunch of right wing ghoules
Speaker 1: would pick to replicate on their show for some baffling reason,
Speaker 1: I would need to like sit down and look at
Speaker 1: the cody if you seen more of the context of this. No,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that before. I would have to look
Speaker 1: at an episode of the ingram Angle. Apparently they've done
Speaker 1: like things like this before, not exactly the context, but
Speaker 1: they've done bits. It's like, it's because the thing is,
Speaker 1: if it's not planned, it's extremely funny and embarrassing. Uh.
Speaker 1: If it is planned, it's very stupid, And if it's planned,
Speaker 1: it's very stupid imporing. But I um, and what's the point,
Speaker 1: which I guess means, well, you know what we're talking
Speaker 1: about it, so we're talking about accomplished, right, I guess yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean we're just here's the thing you're saying. You're
Speaker 1: saying that it's very clearly a comedy act or it's
Speaker 1: not funny enough to is if it's clearly a calmedy act,
Speaker 1: make it clear that it's a comedy act. I don't.
Speaker 1: I the I think what it is is more evidence
Speaker 1: that that side of the population in this country has
Speaker 1: gotten so we've gotten so pulled apart that it's like
Speaker 1: I grew up watching Fox News every day and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what they're going for with
Speaker 1: this ship. This is just this is just ridiculous. Well,
Speaker 1: also like her whole show is like a bit, like
Speaker 1: it's just it's like the entire thing is just like
Speaker 1: they're all a bit but like they don't tend to
Speaker 1: do this. Again, I'm not a regular watcher Laura Ingram.
Speaker 1: I think she was a no that was gredive ancestor
Speaker 1: and who was the big lady anchor on Fox when
Speaker 1: I was a kid. But there's a there's like a moment, Uh,
Speaker 1: we're the same guy fell out of his chair um
Speaker 1: on the same episode. No, no, no, no no, it's from
Speaker 1: here we Go. It's you might have remembered when they
Speaker 1: took a they okay, it's when they took pictures of
Speaker 1: themselves with bud light. Was during the Kavanaugh hearings and
Speaker 1: they were like people, and so they got bud light
Speaker 1: out and then they tried to take a selfie and
Speaker 1: then he fell out of his chair and she says
Speaker 1: they did it on purpose. Uh so, like I just
Speaker 1: like this weird like limbo space of like they do
Speaker 1: these things is that either don't quite work or they
Speaker 1: do them accidentally. And then they claimed that they did
Speaker 1: them on purpose. I'm excited, No, Cody, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm really excited for when when these these beautiful, precious
Speaker 1: moments from the ingram Angle are turned into n f
Speaker 1: T s so that you can digitally own it? Would
Speaker 1: that fun? You're you joke? But my god, absolutely that's
Speaker 1: where it's head and baby if it doesn't. And now
Speaker 1: one of our listeners, one of you guys, is going
Speaker 1: to take that idea and run with it. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is your chance to be a millionaire. Yeah you got
Speaker 1: like a year, right, you got this is your window. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got about a year. We're going to take a
Speaker 1: quick break and then we're gonna come back and shoot
Speaker 1: the ship somewhere together everything. Oh gosh, we sure are
Speaker 1: we sure are? Welcome back to the ingram Angle. Do
Speaker 1: a little bit an tell if there are jokes or not? Um,
Speaker 1: Michael Flynn, that was pitched as an idea that we
Speaker 1: talked about Bannon TV. Has anyone ever done like a
Speaker 1: like a Michael Flynn Dr Quinn medicine woman mash up?
Speaker 1: It seems that seems doable. Another idea just for the masses.
Speaker 1: You're just being gold today, Rob, just just throwing out
Speaker 1: money making. So yeah, Michael Flynn's in the news this week.
Speaker 1: Is it good? No? Uh? For a comment that he
Speaker 1: made during a speech to a conservative Christian audience, um
Speaker 1: and what's it called the Reawakened America Tour in Texas.
Speaker 1: He said, if we're going to have one nation under God,
Speaker 1: which we must, we have to have one religion, one
Speaker 1: nation under God, and one religion under God, right, all
Speaker 1: of us working together? What the fuck is that? What
Speaker 1: is he trying to do? What is he doing here?
Speaker 1: He's leaning He's leaning in, leaning hard into it, right,
Speaker 1: like this is what this is what like the Republican
Speaker 1: Party generally wants, right like like he's like he's like
Speaker 1: he's so uh deep in getting away with stuff and
Speaker 1: just like being in the news kind of and not
Speaker 1: really that he can just sort of say this stuff
Speaker 1: out loud. Right, Yeah, you knows these articles like what
Speaker 1: is this in the article James Clappers, Mike Flynn today
Speaker 1: is not the Mike Flynn of prior to that. I know,
Speaker 1: you know this, this guy has changed, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean you gotten deep ship. Uh. He was cooperating in
Speaker 1: the investigation with the Russian you know, collusion whatever. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, we've been through so much. Um, you know.
Speaker 1: Then he flipped and campaigned hard for you know and
Speaker 1: Donald Trump apardon from Donald Trump, which he got. So
Speaker 1: he's just a living example of everything, you know, Like
Speaker 1: he keeps doing it. He's doing it because he can,
Speaker 1: and he gets away with it, and there's nothing left
Speaker 1: for him except to lean and harder now you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the thing that happens when these people like go
Speaker 1: go so far off the edge. Um, And it's I
Speaker 1: don't know, there's a lot of conversation about like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, Um, how do you how do you handle
Speaker 1: the fact that with mass media, anyone you try to
Speaker 1: like punish for doing something objectively terrible and he's done
Speaker 1: a lot of funked up ship is UH is not
Speaker 1: going to just like find a fan base and UH
Speaker 1: become a millionaire talking about how we need to murder
Speaker 1: all the non Christians? Like what do you? I don't
Speaker 1: actually know what the solution to Mike Flynn. The problem is,
Speaker 1: it's it's a it is a sticky wicket for society
Speaker 1: to try to answer, because if you're going to have
Speaker 1: free speech and presidents who can pardon people, and a
Speaker 1: political system that works the way ours does. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have Mike Flynn's and it doesn't it doesn't even matter.
Speaker 1: He's he doesn't matter as an individual. There would be
Speaker 1: people like him who would make the decisions he's making
Speaker 1: because he's just making perfectly rational decisions for a guy
Speaker 1: in Mike Flynn's position. Yeah, And I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know what we do about this. Uh um, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't find him on the Yeah, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like open invitation. Why the fun we can talk
Speaker 1: to him about the come of elected leaders. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean what do we do about it? Steve Bannon
Speaker 1: was indicted this week? Yeah, he sure was. I guess
Speaker 1: we'll see if there was. It's I don't know, he's
Speaker 1: already out on out without bail. I mean the arraignment
Speaker 1: comes Thursday. Yeah. I don't feel great about this. I
Speaker 1: don't feel great about contempt of Congress as like a
Speaker 1: thing we go after people for. Well, it's not going
Speaker 1: to be much, no matter what. It's like thirty days,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's dollars, nothing but helped him, like they're not.
Speaker 1: It's because it's because they're not willing to go after
Speaker 1: him for like well, you could make a pretty strong
Speaker 1: legal case that he tried to incite a revolution, like
Speaker 1: a violent overthrow of the government, which is like pretty
Speaker 1: serious crime. You could be you can you can get
Speaker 1: some hard time for trying to overthrow the entire government
Speaker 1: of the United States. Um. But again it's he had
Speaker 1: another like compromise and half measure in dealing with the coup,
Speaker 1: which means we're going to have another fascist coup. That's
Speaker 1: the way they work. That's what I mean. I was like,
Speaker 1: just because it didn't happen yet doesn't mean he's not
Speaker 1: still working for it. Yeah, yeah, get like lets himself
Speaker 1: get in front of the camera and pay himself as
Speaker 1: like this sort of like murder figure for a brief
Speaker 1: moment until he pays the fucking fine, uh and give
Speaker 1: his little speech about the future and where we're going.
Speaker 1: What's fun is that Mike Flynn has also been subpoena
Speaker 1: He's just spending his life testifying in front of h anyway, Sorry,
Speaker 1: just laugh. I don't know, I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm doing the thing that happens to me at
Speaker 1: the end of every year, which is I've completely given
Speaker 1: up on society and civilization, and I'm willing to walk
Speaker 1: into the woods and hopefully by the time, yeah, by
Speaker 1: the time we get to like Jan Feb next year,
Speaker 1: I'll be I'll be ready to re engage with the
Speaker 1: world in a productive manner. But I'm just I'm not
Speaker 1: just at my wits end with it right now. I
Speaker 1: am too. I think we all are. I feel well, like,
Speaker 1: let's put this into context. I mean, none of us
Speaker 1: have had vacations in forever years. It's been a slug
Speaker 1: and um to Syria. That was nice. You went to Syria.
Speaker 1: That was a vacation. It's part of a vacation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was nice. It was it was a
Speaker 1: part of the vacation. Yeah, it was great. It was
Speaker 1: a lot better than than working all the time. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess I've had a week off here there, but
Speaker 1: not the same thing. Yeah, it's been a while. So Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've been talking guys about how we can have some
Speaker 1: fun for the rest of the year on the show,
Speaker 1: and we've got some ideas. We're gonna have some fun. Um. Yes,
Speaker 1: we we are going to um launch an n f
Speaker 1: T band based off of pictures that Katie and I
Speaker 1: have taken of Cody in moments where he trusted us. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's the it's the Cody collection. There's thirty thou images, um,
Speaker 1: and you can and if you own them, you have
Speaker 1: the right to monetize Cody's image. Um, you could cast
Speaker 1: him in your own n f T cartoon. Yeah, image
Speaker 1: for every song songs coming your way. Maybe you should
Speaker 1: make yourself an n f T and make an album
Speaker 1: to go with it or something. I I will never
Speaker 1: participate in n f T s any way, unless unless
Speaker 1: it's very funny, right, But so maybe my my line
Speaker 1: remains the same, which is that I will I will
Speaker 1: take on any deal in exchange for a bear Cat
Speaker 1: or equivalent armored vehicle. But in the case of n
Speaker 1: f T s, their credit is no good and I
Speaker 1: will need the armored vehicle provided to me in full
Speaker 1: before I will. I will say anything nice truck count
Speaker 1: absolutely not in the under no circumstances. No, it makes sense,
Speaker 1: it makes sense. I can't believe I met someone who
Speaker 1: bought one. Anyway. Well, I mean whatever, I'm sure it'll
Speaker 1: be fun. Most I mean the Tesla products. They're kind
Speaker 1: of old for electronic cars now, but like they're fun. Um,
Speaker 1: Like I get white people like them. It's the same
Speaker 1: thing like the Rivian though like the truck, well, no,
Speaker 1: I I don't Well, I don't enjoy the design aesthetics
Speaker 1: of the Tesla truck, but I know, like a nightmare.
Speaker 1: I mean it like it will eat you. It's not,
Speaker 1: it's it's not. It's not a boring design. So I
Speaker 1: don't know people like to own weird ship. That makes
Speaker 1: sense to me. The fact that people might want to
Speaker 1: own a ridiculous space car that looks like the fucking
Speaker 1: vehicle from Halo. Um, Like, oh yeah, I get white
Speaker 1: people are going to buy that fucking thing. Um and whatever.
Speaker 1: It's a thing. At least it has it crosses that
Speaker 1: barrier actually being broken. Capable of being broken when you
Speaker 1: punch its window, yeah, but capable but capable of moving
Speaker 1: even if it's a terrible truck. A terrible truck is
Speaker 1: better than the best drawing of a monkey like utility perspective.
Speaker 1: No disagreement. I just don't want to date the person
Speaker 1: driving that car. That's that's fine. Everyone has the right
Speaker 1: to I won't date anyone who drives a Mitsubishi. You know,
Speaker 1: we have our we have our opinions. Are lines in
Speaker 1: the sand, our lines in the sand. That's right, that's right,
Speaker 1: Tell you or die. Yeah, I really like my super u. Um,
Speaker 1: have we done it? Have we discussed all the things? Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is this is legally, Sophie is legal giving us
Speaker 1: the sign off legally an episode, I will say. We
Speaker 1: did want to briefly mention Brittany is free. That is good.
Speaker 1: That is nice for conservative ship. So if you are
Speaker 1: in a conservative ship, be a famous millionaire and maybe
Speaker 1: you two can one day get out of it. Um.
Speaker 1: I did see, I think yesterday being passed around these
Speaker 1: photos of her in her car, Like, oh, look she's free.
Speaker 1: Look she's a free woman. I'm so happy, and like,
Speaker 1: maybe leave her alone. Ye made her lesson here, Maybe
Speaker 1: leave her alone? Maybe just leave her alone. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: my that's a great, a great note to end on.
Speaker 1: Yeah for today, UM, leave her the funk alone, guys,
Speaker 1: and have a great Thanksgiving next year. We won't be
Speaker 1: dropping an episode next week, but back the week after that.
Speaker 1: It was something fun. What we're fun. We're thankful. I
Speaker 1: would like to also extend congratulations to friend of the
Speaker 1: Pod JP Morgan, who is suing Tesla for breach of contracts.
Speaker 1: Relating to and they want a hundred and sixty two
Speaker 1: million dollars from him immediately. And in this instance, I
Speaker 1: I support JP Morgan because I think it would be
Speaker 1: funny if Elon Musk paid officially became the man who
Speaker 1: paid a hundred and sixty two million dollars to tweet.
Speaker 1: The money is going to be in a in a
Speaker 1: bad person's hands either way, it might as well be funny.
Speaker 1: And it's funny, very funny. Yah, just just so he
Speaker 1: can tweet. And sixty nine it's a good stuff. What
Speaker 1: an amazing, what a what a world that we live in?
Speaker 1: What it's silly n f t of the world. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: I get your monkeys and lions, so dumb everything, so
Speaker 1: dump it's got again. I tried Dan. Worst Year Ever
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