1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Giants Huddle Get Him New York Giants podcast. 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: My name is John Schmulkin. Welcome to another edition of 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:14,239 Speaker 1: the Giants Huddle podcast. Today's episode features three conversations with 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: the Giants coordinators. Defensive coordinator James Betcher, offensive coordinator Mike Shula, 5 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: and special teams coordinator Thomas mcgahey. Before we get to 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: those three, gentlemen, I want to remind you that if 7 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: you're listening on Giants dot Com with the Giant's mobile app, 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: that's great, Thank you for being with us. But it's 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: a lot easier for you and it's better for us 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: if you go to your favorite podcast platform, subscribe, add 11 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: us to your favorites, put us into your feed, and 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: if you're an Apple podcast, leave a positive review or 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 1: a high rating if you like what you hear. We 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: started off with James Betcher, the Giants second year defensive coordinator. 15 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: I started my conversation with him by asking about the 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: Giants young defensive backfield. The Giants drafted three cornerbacks in 17 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: the two thousand and nineteen NFL Draft, DeAndre Baker, Julian Love, 18 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: and Corey Ballentine. I asked James Betcher how those three 19 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: and the other young defensive backs have progressed from the 20 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: spring to where they are heading at the training camp. 21 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: You know, I think the first thing to say with 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: that is there's no good young players without good vets. 23 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: And those guys that are young players in the second secondary, 24 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: or guys that might be a young player at the 25 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: linebacker position or young you know, young player stepping in 26 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: the front, all those rooms have strong veteran players, guys 27 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: that know how to work and know how to study 28 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: tape and know how to come into the room prepared 29 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: to ask questions. And really the next thing that vets 30 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: are able to show these young guys is how to 31 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: take it from the classroom to the field and not 32 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: waste time having to go through things that you've already 33 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: been through a couple of times in the classroom. Um. 34 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: But but these guys are working, they're engaged. Um. They're 35 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: getting challenged in the meeting rooms by their position coaches, 36 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: and they're getting challenged by the vets in the room. 37 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: And that's probably more important than anything is our vets 38 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: are challenging guys right now, and it's one of the 39 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: most challenging positions in football. You're out an island against 40 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: great wide receivers. You're not try bub blitz and they're 41 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: gonna be asked to cover man on man. What's the 42 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: biggest thing for a rookie corner, even a guy like 43 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: Sambiell who really didn't play at all last year except 44 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: for a practice or two to transition from college to 45 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: the pros to make it seamless, what's the biggest jump. 46 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: What are you focusing on with them? Um, beyond the 47 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: core fundamentals and techniques, Because no matter whether you want 48 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: to rush forward and play coverage of any kind, corners 49 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: in this league, they're going to get isolated to your 50 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: point and fundamentals and techniques, how to play and and 51 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: use those techniques in certain coverages and what they apply to. 52 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: I think sometimes you get some of the young guys, 53 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: especially dbs in the back end. Um, everything's like the 54 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: same for them. So you might call the coverage A, 55 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: and they they'll play coverage A like they'll cover play 56 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: coverage B, C, D and E. But now we're really 57 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: trying to to take what techniques apply when and develop 58 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: those techniques. That's the first thing, and the second thing 59 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: is just this next play, next play, you're gonna give 60 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: up a completion. In this league, it happens. It happens 61 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: to the greatest of the greatest corners. You're gonna give 62 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: up a touchdown, You're gonna give up a completion. Do 63 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: we want any of that, Absolutely not. But it's going 64 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,119 Speaker 1: to happen. And we got to play the next play. 65 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: And you know, just watching DeAndre Baker, and I say 66 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: this in a complimentary way, he doesn't care like he 67 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: just goes out there and plays. He confident he goes 68 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: out there because he just comes back plays again. He 69 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: just seems like a kid that is just one play 70 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: at a time, knows how to cover, and it's just 71 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: real confident in himself. Ye. And you know him and 72 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: Sam Beale, they're both competing for that job, and both 73 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: of those guys have a lot of growth ahead of him. 74 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: And I think that's the exciting thing about working with him, 75 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: as you see a bunch of talent, a bunch of skills, 76 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: a bunch of ability. We have to get that skill 77 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: and ability refined and get those guys ready to execute 78 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: and use those tools. Now, the other side of that 79 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: is they themselves have to have to have to get 80 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: themselves ready. You know, it's a two way street. And 81 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: that's what the good players I've ever been around. You know, 82 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson at corner, Generic's Jenkins at corner. You watch 83 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: those guys an individual when they work, or when you 84 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: watch them when it's a walk through. I look over 85 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: at Jack and it's a walkthrough in may O t 86 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: A six, and he's in a great stance and he's 87 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: locked in. That's what great players do. That's what real 88 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,559 Speaker 1: corners do. And it's good that we have young guys 89 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: that can see what that looks like because I've been 90 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: a few places where we've had guys at corner, Patrick Genorries, 91 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: and that's what those guys do. So um, it's exciting 92 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: for our young players to be exposed to that. For 93 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: the fans that they're Jack is Jack Rapid by the way, 94 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: Genera's Jenkings. For the folks that don't know, you're bringing 95 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: a veteran safe dance and Bathe who you know a 96 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: lot about. You know you can trust him that has 97 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: been around the block a million times. Good player. But 98 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: Brol Peppers is somebody that you weren't that familiar with 99 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: before he got here. He wasn't on one of your rosters. 100 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: What have you learned about him since he's gotten on 101 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: the roster and how much can he do and at 102 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: what level can he do it? You know, the unique 103 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: thing about him is when he was coming out of Michigan, Um, 104 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: I'm at the Cardinals and I went up. Um I 105 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: was a coordinator in Arizona and I went up and 106 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: to spend a bunch of time with him. He was 107 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: kind of a targeted guy. That is an organization that 108 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: they you know, we wanted to go up and spend 109 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,679 Speaker 1: some time with get to know and everything I thought 110 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: then is accurate. He loves football, he loves to play 111 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: the game. He brings a bunch of energy in the building. 112 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: You feel him. He walks in, you feel him. It's 113 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: not because he's loud, not because he's obnoxious. This is 114 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: because he has passion and he has a great smile, 115 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: and UM, I think those things are what what gets 116 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: you know, gets people to gravitate towards him, and that 117 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: makes him a natural leader. Um. You know, he can 118 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: blitz some different angles. He can cover in spay yees, 119 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: he can play high and coverage. Um, He's he's really 120 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: done all those things you look at even when he 121 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: was at Cleveland, he played nickel, linebacker and safety and 122 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: in many, many of the same games. He's he's gonna 123 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:13,679 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have a lot of fun playing 124 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: in this defense. Talk about your pass rushers a little bit. 125 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: How do you see the group coming together a couple 126 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: of that's Marcus Goldenell I think has looked fantastic in 127 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: the sprangles pads. I know, but he can move, he 128 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: can bend. And then you have the two young guys, 129 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: Lorenzo Carter trying to come into his own and the 130 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: rookie O shames him and as in Kareem obviously. Yeah, 131 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: that's a really really solid NFL position group. And I 132 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: think one of the things that's unique about them is 133 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: these guys they practice extremely hard, They work extremely hard, 134 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: and you will never know until we get pads on, 135 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: Like you just said, where we're at in terms of disruption. 136 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: But I got a really good feeling about the combination 137 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: of those four guys in one way, shape or form 138 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: or another um of being able to disrupt and get 139 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: quarterbacks off the spot. And just in in us as 140 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: much in the pass rush, let's let's disrupt in a 141 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: run game. Two. You know, our goal is to be 142 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: a top five run defense, and that that happens if 143 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: we get disruption from our edge players. And you mentioned 144 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: getting the pads on, We're not gonna see what b J. Hill, 145 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: Daln Thomason in that monster DEXTL Lawrences couldn't be able 146 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: to do it though the pads come on either. How 147 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: much can their interior play, whether it's in the base 148 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: with the three down or in the interior when you're 149 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: in sub with the with the four man front, how 150 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: much can they help the edge rushers and giving that 151 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: inside push to allow them to get to the quarterback. Yeah, 152 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,119 Speaker 1: there's there's two aspects to the inside rush. There's someone 153 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: has to push the pocket so quarterbacks can't step up. 154 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: Then the other point, the other part is the the 155 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: other guy has to disrupt, just like he's an edge rusher, 156 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: he's gotta he's got to overlap the spot. So if 157 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: the if one of the two interior guys is pushing 158 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: the pocket, that generally means the other interior defensive guys 159 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: gonna have one on ones, and those one on ones, 160 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: he's got to overlap the vision of the quarterback and 161 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: make the quarterback's eyes drop, make him shuffle and move 162 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: off his spot and allow us to come back down 163 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: with our edge rushers or counterback inside with their edge rushers. 164 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: That three techniques becoming just as a point in one 165 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: of those edge guys. Right. Final question, are we gonna 166 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: get to see you open up the James Betcher playbook 167 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: a little bit more this year? With all the new 168 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: PERSONNELI you guy vetter in safety, these guys that maybe 169 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: you can trust to cover one on one, are we 170 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: going to see some of the old tricks come out 171 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: a little bit in? You know, I think anytime you go, 172 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: and it was the same way when we built it 173 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: in Arizona, every year you you have a little more 174 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: at your hands because it's one thing just to call 175 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff that your players don't know why 176 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: you're calling it. And we gotta we have to build 177 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: the foundation. And I was really just talking to a 178 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: couple other guys about this, a couple of our players 179 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: about this, is we we got to focus on not 180 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: what we do, but how we're doing it then why 181 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: we're doing it. So how we play this technique, how 182 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: we played this coverage, because those coverages are go hand 183 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: in hand with the packages. Um, how we blitz, how 184 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: we blitz with good angles, how we develop the overlap 185 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: and pressures and and create indecision of quarterbacks, how we 186 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: hold disguise, and what the weaknesses those instances might create 187 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: in the coverage. So as you build that, you absolutely 188 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: can have either more valume or more things that that 189 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: really are different but look the same, or maybe the 190 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: same things that look different. That's great stuff. We appreciate 191 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: the time. Thanks so much. Thanks. That's Giants defensive coordinator 192 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: James Betcher. Now let's flip to the other side of 193 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: the ball, where Giants offensive coordinator Mike Shula, also in 194 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: the second year, is benefiting from having most of his 195 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: players returning for a second year in the same system. 196 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: I asked, very simply, how that's helped. Yeah, you can 197 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: just tell by the look in their eyes and the 198 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: questions they ask, and the comfort level is so much higher. Um. 199 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: I think we get a lot more things done in 200 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: everything we do in the meeting room and the walkthroughs 201 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: on the practice field. Uh. Um. If there's mistakes made, um, 202 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: they get corrected. Quicker guys are very um in tune 203 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: with getting their job done. And you know, so it's 204 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: been obviously you know, the ultimate test is going to 205 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,599 Speaker 1: be on Sunday, but you know, there's a lot of 206 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: things that are looking at where our arrows are pointing up, 207 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: and we just kind of kind of stay on track 208 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: that way. How much can fans look back to the 209 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: final eight games, in the final four games of last 210 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: year after Odell got hurt to envision what's your offense 211 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: is going to look like this year? Are you going 212 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: to see some significant changes? Well, we'd like to other 213 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: than a couple um finishes where we didn't finish as 214 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: well as we should have. We you know, we look 215 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: at that as well as coaches, and you'd like to 216 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: you know, kind of pick up where you left off 217 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: at the worst and then go from there. UM. You know, 218 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: we felt like we put ourselves we won some games, 219 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: and we put ourselves in position um to win some 220 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: games against good play against playoff teams or teams that 221 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: had to win to get into the playoffs. Uh, and 222 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: then we fell short on a couple of them. But 223 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: there's UM, I think our personality is just going to 224 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: be a good balanced UM efficient with the ability to um, 225 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: you know, get the ball down the field at any time. 226 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: I think we've got guys that when they have the 227 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 1: ball in their hands are explosive. UM. And anytime you 228 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: do that and you can create space form or move 229 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage form, I think that's Boat's will 230 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: for um, you know, give us a chance to be exciting. 231 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: For an offensive coordinator, how much of an advantage does 232 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 1: it give you when you have a balanced offense in 233 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: terms of bald distribution where teams aren't going to know 234 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: is this week storing Shepherd number one guy is a 235 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: golden tate? Isn't if an ingram where there isn't really 236 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: a number one guy in the passing game and they 237 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: can just get the ball to whoever is open, how 238 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: much does that help the offense? I think it really helps. 239 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: I think regardless of of who's on your team, uh, 240 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: at what talent level, I think the more you can 241 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: spread the ball around UM we say that, you know, 242 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,599 Speaker 1: the more the defense has to cover the field and 243 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: not just hone in on one guy, the more efficient 244 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna be. UM. And it's not just that with personnel, 245 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: I would say it's um, you know, trying to be 246 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: unpredictable with formations um UM when certain personnels on the field, 247 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: UM and you know, ultimately, you know, we feel like 248 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: if we stay on the field by making good decisions 249 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 1: with the quarterbacks and um making first downs that you know, 250 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: we got obviously have a chance with the guys we 251 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: had to get the ball on the ends on you 252 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: have fierce battle for that third wide receiver spot. One 253 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: guy want to ask you about is Corey Coleman, who 254 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: kind of came in midstream last year. That's always tough, 255 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: trying to learn things on the fly. Now he's been 256 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: here for a full offseason program. How has he grown 257 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: since he's been here coming in the spring heading into 258 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: trading camp. Yeah, well he's got he's got a great 259 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: opportunity and he's very talented. UM, and he's he's come 260 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: a long way already. Uh. And we're pushing the envelope 261 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: with him as far as asking him to do uh 262 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: not just you know this or that. UM. We all 263 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: know he can run, so we're not we're not just 264 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: asking run down the field every play. We want him 265 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: to be able to run. Uh. You know all the routes, 266 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: as some people say, have the complete route tree. UM. 267 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: And the more you know, becomes aware of the uh, 268 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: the defenses and the little adjustments he's got to make 269 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: I think the fastest he's gonna play, and that's shown 270 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: up really each and every day a little bit more. 271 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I think if he continues on pace, 272 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be able to help us. Now, 273 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: the one points you saw a lot of changes on 274 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,599 Speaker 1: the offensive line and Nate's older, Mike Grammers in the 275 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: field yet, but you have Will Hernans a year older, 276 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: Halla Pios back competing with Spencer Pulley, and you add 277 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: two vets on the right side of the offensive lineman, 278 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: Kevin Zeisler and Mike Grammer's when he eventually becomes healthy. 279 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: If you can solidify that group and have them throughout camping, 280 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: throughout the season, does that give you more confidences an 281 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: offensive coordinat where maybe you can do more seven step 282 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: more five step, open up the playbook a little bit. Well, 283 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: for sure, you know I think that, Um, you know, 284 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: we've got more depth than we've had, plus with the 285 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: the experience that we've got with the guys we brought in, 286 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: plus the experience that we've got in the system from 287 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: the guys that were here last year. Um, then you 288 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 1: add in the fact that our skill players, you know, 289 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: it all works together. Our skill players are gonna help 290 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: our all offensive line in and turn our offensive line 291 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: is gonna help our skill players, so they're going to 292 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: create They're gonna help us run the ball and create 293 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: good looks um in the play action passing game. And 294 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: let's get uh and then with say Quan, hopefully you know, 295 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 1: you get some uh good individual one on ones with 296 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: the outside receivers because they're going to commit to defending 297 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: the run. So all it all ties in together. But 298 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: it starts up front and with the depth and some 299 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: of the experience, and probably more so than all of that, 300 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: just the character of those guys up front and the 301 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: way they compete and the pride that they take. I 302 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: think it's gonna definitely help us. I know you guys 303 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: did a ton of work on Daniel Jones before he 304 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: got here. Is there anything new you've learned about him 305 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: working with him up close and personal over the course 306 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: of the spring that maybe you didn't know before he 307 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: got here. Yeah, I wouldn't say, you know, again, he 308 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: hasn't played his first game yet, but I mean I 309 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: would say everything that we thought has been um pretty 310 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: much on par or maybe even a little bit better. 311 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: You know, he's got a real fast mind. Um, he 312 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: picks things up well in you know, from what we've 313 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: seen so far without the playing time experience. UM, he's uh, 314 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, he's kind of a quiet guy, but he's 315 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: he's got he's he's you can see the competitiveness in him. 316 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: He's very serious about what he what he uh about 317 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: his job and wants to do it right. Um. So yeah, 318 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of neat things that we're 319 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: I think we're still finding out about him too, and 320 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: all of it's been really good. Is really the next 321 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: step for him in the most important thing to see 322 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: how he transfers the learning, the processing and all that 323 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: when he's got a live pass rush coming at him 324 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: in preseason games. Yeah, I would say that. And then 325 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: probably just as important, you know, we've been going against 326 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: our defense every day, so now all of a sudden, 327 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: you're seeing different styles of defense, and you're gonna see 328 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: different disguises, and you're gonna see different fronts and um, 329 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: variations of coverages and blitz is so now, um that 330 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: that'll be probably just as much for us to look 331 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: at and for him to to learn from. Uh. During 332 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: the preseason uh, and continue to get better because of 333 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: my good stuff. We appreciate it. Okay, thinks that's John's 334 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, Mike Shula. Now let's go to special teams 335 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: with Thomas mcgahey. Now, last year Thomas mcgahey had a 336 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: battle with cancer that he won. I started off by 337 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: asking Tom if he's close to Yeah, I think so. Um, 338 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: you know, I'm rocking right along. It's uh, it's been 339 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: a long haul, but it's been good getting back to 340 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: working out normally and you know, just kind of getting 341 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: everyday routine and having a little weekend golf and run 342 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: around with the kids, you know, flying back and forth 343 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: to Houston. So it's it's kind of normal now. Excellent. 344 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: Good to hear, and boy, you have a lot of 345 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: fun tools at your disposed of this offseason. Let's start 346 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: one of the new guys, Jebrol Pepper's. How much can 347 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: you utilize him on special teams? Given what an outsized 348 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: role on defense he's gonna have. It Is that gonna 349 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: limit the way you can use them? Or is he 350 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: so young? Just throw him in there and let him roll. 351 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: You know. That's that's a week by week basis. You know, 352 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: we'll we'll practice him at every position. Uh, and we'll 353 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: just kind of see how the season flows. Uh. You know, 354 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: if we have to use him as a kick return 355 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: and punt returner, you know whatever on you know, punt 356 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 1: return vice player or you know, whatever work we need him. Uh, 357 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: we'll we'll gauge those those spots. You know, Jabrill is 358 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: a high energy guy, and you know he got a motor. 359 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: He can go all day. But you gotta save him 360 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: from himself, you know. So we'll make sure we pick 361 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: and choose our spots with him. Now, I'm sure, and 362 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: you tell me if I'm right or wrong. Does the 363 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: emergence of another player that you think can do one 364 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: of those things well might make it easier for you 365 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: to pull your bill back in some of the situations. 366 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: So if you decide Corey Coleman, yeah, he's gonna be 367 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: a great kickoff guy, then you don't maybe we don't 368 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: have to use your Bill in that spot. Absolutely, And 369 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: core showed his his worth last year. Uh, he did 370 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: a great job. He was in the top half of 371 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: the league, I want to say it was in the 372 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: top ten and kickoff returns per average last year. So 373 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: he came in and gave us a spark plug last year, 374 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: So Corey definitely has the ability to do. And you 375 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: know again, I mean, we we got a lot of 376 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: guys over there are working and uh, you know, we're 377 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: not gonna load up Jabril. We're not gonna kill him. 378 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: You know, he is a phenomenal player. We're gonna make 379 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: sure that he can, uh we can maximize his value 380 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: at the same time, but make sure we keep them fresh. 381 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: We know some of your veterans can be great gunners, 382 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: the Cody Latimer's Russell shepherds guys like that. Who else 383 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: have you seen to merge among the young guys that 384 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: can maybe step up in and do a little good 385 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: work as a gunner and those very important punk cover situations. Well, 386 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: you know, Antonio Hamiltons did a great job for us 387 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: last year. Um, but some of these young guys, you 388 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: just you never know. You don't know until we're getting 389 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: a in a padded situation where the guys can get there. 390 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: You know, guys can get their hands on them. You know. 391 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: I know some guys that have shown some early signs 392 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: have been uh Darius Slayton and uh uh Julian Julian Love, 393 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: Lord of Mercy Julian, but he he is a very 394 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: smooth athlete. Darius has great speed. Uh. Their hard working 395 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: kids uh and and they understand it like they get it, 396 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: you know. So it's it's and they're just you know, 397 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: just as a handful of guys. But we got some 398 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: guys that we can rotate in. We'll see a lot 399 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: in the preseason from him. We'll roll those guys. It'll 400 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: be it'll be a different gunner probably almost every punt. 401 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: You know, we already know who are veteran guys are 402 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: and what they can do. The Russell Shepherds of the 403 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: World and all those guys, Cody and you know, and 404 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: they really ham But those young guys will will get 405 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: a nice dosage of them during the preseason so we 406 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: can see what they can do. I always think you 407 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: have the toughest job when it comes to these rookies. 408 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: You know, the d C is oldest tape of these 409 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,479 Speaker 1: guys doing stuff on defense, Mike she looking watch them 410 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: on offense in college saft. These guys haven't done anything 411 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: on special teams. How do you figure out what all 412 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: these young and new players could be good at to 413 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: put them in a position to succeed and help the team. 414 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: We watch them in their natural essence as a football player. 415 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: Can they bend their knees? Can they strike? Uh? Can 416 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: they run? All? Right? Can they? Will they listen to coaching? 417 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: Are are do? They have a eagerness to be the best? 418 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: A right? Regardless of what you do on offense and defense? 419 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: And we always say how you do anything is how 420 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: you do everything right, So you can't compartment mentalize who 421 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: you are as a as a player. Right, So if 422 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna play hard on defense, you're not gonna show 423 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: up the special teams and then just not play hard. 424 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: You know, it normally kind of equates. So if if 425 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: you don't play hard on defense, and normally it will 426 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: equate on special teams and and vice versa. If you 427 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: play hard, you're just a hard player, you know. So 428 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: guys that are that are willing and able and eager 429 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: uh to do it. That's that's what we do. And 430 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: then and then we evaluate them by watching them playing 431 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: offense defense. You know, it's football, right, it's saying rocket science. 432 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,479 Speaker 1: This is football. Sometimes we overcomplicate this this stuff as 433 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: coaches and as as uh talent evaluators. We make we 434 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: make this a little bit harder on what it should be. 435 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, can you run, 436 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: can you block? And you tackle? And are you coachable? 437 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: And that those are the things that those the essential 438 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: things that we need. Dave Gentleman has been very careful 439 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: to bring in a certain type of player. And I 440 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: got to imagine for a Special Teams coach, you love 441 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: the type of players that Dave Gentleman brings in here. 442 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: Uh do you have a bunch of guys on this 443 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: I guess ninety men roster at this point that are 444 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 1: eager to play Special Teams because for you, guys effort 445 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: and wanted to do it and wanted to be good 446 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: at is it's really almost half the battle, right Yeah. 447 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: Last year, you know, mr Mr Gentleman has done a 448 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: great job of uh A, summoning the roster from the 449 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: top down and bottom up, you know, And and you're 450 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: only as good as your weakest link. So when we 451 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: first got here, he started building it from the bottom 452 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: up and changed out the bottom of the roster and 453 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: it really helped us. And last year we laid the 454 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: foundation as far as Special teams concerned. We were ranked 455 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: in a couple of rankings Uh in the top three. 456 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: You know. So those guys in our room understand the 457 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: importance of it, and we're leading. We're letting the older 458 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: guys lead, and they know, they know the importance that 459 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: they have to convey to the younger guys. Okay, look, 460 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: this is what we do. This is this is the 461 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: foundation that we laid last year. And when you come 462 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: in here, you're gonna have to pull your pull your weight. 463 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: You know. So a lot of these guys, like you said, 464 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: they don't they haven't played in college. But it's my 465 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: job as as best teoms corney to me, Blev and 466 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: Uh and coach Quinny, it's our job to make sure 467 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: these guys understand the importance of it because we always 468 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: tell them we all we all touch each other's money, right, 469 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: So regardless of what you do and the decisions you make, 470 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,719 Speaker 1: you got to make sure that you know we're all 471 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: on the same page because what you would do affects 472 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: me and what I do affects you, you know, so 473 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: that that's the most important thing, and we all got 474 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 1: to get him the same page that way. Tom Coflin 475 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: taught me never to use the word comfortable, and it's 476 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: a bad word. So I'll use a different word. Do 477 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: you feel good about having Algae Rosas back making such 478 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: a big step from his rookie year to his second 479 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: year and the consistency that he can bring is not 480 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: only kickoff guy but also a field goal kicker. Absolutely. Uh, 481 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: It's it's been fun to watch his maturation process. Um. 482 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: You know, Aldrich is a hard working kid. He really 483 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: really Uh is big into honing his craft. Uh. He's 484 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: very coachable. Uh. He's not your typical kicker. Uh. He's 485 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: has a different mindset as far as his approach as 486 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: an athlete. Uh. You know, if you ever go on 487 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: his Instagram page, you can watch him dunk of basketball 488 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: ninety five different ways. But it's not very many kickers 489 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: in this league that can do that. He's a phenomenal 490 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: athlete and he understand that, and he's starting to grow 491 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: into who he is as a professional kicker. You know, 492 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: coming off the Pro Bowl year, we anticipate him going 493 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: back in the same direction, you know, having that steady 494 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: Eddy performance and being a guy we can lean on 495 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: and in the critical situation, it helps when you'll line 496 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: up and feel good he can reach on the six 497 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: yard kick in the games that it really changes the 498 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: way you play. Finally, Riley Dixon another guy you look 499 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: at him, doesn't look like a punter, right, punters look 500 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: different than the ust to I get that, but he's 501 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: another guy that he just has the body that makes 502 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: you think that, Yeah, we know he has the power, 503 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: but he's really trying to hold that directional ability to Absolutely, 504 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: he's he's been working really hard. Uh. He changed some 505 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: things up in the off season, Um, technically that we 506 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: hope they're gonna pay off during the year. And uh, 507 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: he's he really really focused on the details of of 508 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: his getoff time and and his steps and all this 509 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: stuff this offseason. So he's working hard. Man. He has 510 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: great hands. He's he's probably the best holder, one of 511 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: the best holders in in the league. Um, he is 512 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: a very very diligent work and when it comes to that, 513 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: and we look forward to big thanks from Riley. His 514 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: his best football is ahead here. Look forward to seeing 515 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: your unit in pads and get to play their training 516 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: in some real life situations coming on all against Thanks coach, 517 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate it. That's giant Special teams coordinator Thomas 518 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: to be Yahy. We thank him along with James Betcher 519 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: and Mike Sheila for joining us on this week's episode 520 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: of the Giant Subtle Podcast as we close in on 521 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: the start of training camp. Thank you so much for 522 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: being with us. And one more time, folks, if you're 523 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: listening on giants dot com or the Giants Mobile app, 524 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: that's great, Thank you fantastic. 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