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Speaker 1: First date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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Speaker 2: Avery is on the phone today for a first date

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Speaker 2: follow up, and she's getting ghosted by a guy named Toby.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna see if we can figure it out

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Speaker 2: for and call him in just a few minutes and

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Speaker 2: ask him why he's ghosting. But first, Avery tell us

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Speaker 2: about Toby. How long has it means as you talk

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Speaker 2: to him?

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Speaker 3: Hi?

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Speaker 4: Sure?

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Speaker 5: So we talked online for a while before our date

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Speaker 5: and we ended up going hiking, and it's been a

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Speaker 5: couple of weeks and I just haven't heard from him much.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I kind of feel like it's weird.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so a couple of weeks that is a long time. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would feel weird about that too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I was kind of giving it time. You know,

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Speaker 5: we're both really busy. He had mentioned like work a

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Speaker 5: couple of times. I didn't know if he was busy,

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Speaker 5: but I thought it went well, So I was just

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Speaker 5: kind of, you know, want to see what's up.

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Speaker 2: Did you try reaching out to him at all in

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Speaker 2: between that time?

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Speaker 5: I did.

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Speaker 4: I did text him like a phone.

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Speaker 5: I went on the same hike like later, So I

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Speaker 5: text him a photo of the hike, like, oh my god,

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Speaker 5: this is where we were, and he just never responded

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Speaker 5: to that photo. But so it was kind of denign,

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Speaker 5: like I didn't want to be too forward, but yeah,

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Speaker 5: he didn't even respond. It's like completely ghosted.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's a big one too, Like if you

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Speaker 2: went to the same place you were at and sent

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Speaker 2: a picture, you would think you would get a response.

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Speaker 2: I love how we do that to ourselves though.

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Speaker 6: We send text messages and tell ourselves it's okay, this

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Speaker 6: one doesn't require a response, so I'm just gonna send it.

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Speaker 2: In whatever happens happened.

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Speaker 6: Right, and then really you're like, dang, it should have responded. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was like opening, I was like opening the door,

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Speaker 5: and it didn't.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's see what happened. Tell us more about the

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Speaker 2: date and the hike. Thn uh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So well, we both had on our like online profiles

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Speaker 5: that we liked the hike, so I thought it would

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Speaker 5: kind of be a good date, you know, not awkward

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Speaker 5: at all and fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I brought my dog.

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Speaker 5: Because the dog needs to get outside, didn't get exercise,

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Speaker 5: and I just thought it would be fun and we

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Speaker 5: hiked for a few miles, and then afterward we were

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Speaker 5: still having good times, so we went to get a

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Speaker 5: BikeE to eat and he was really nice and he

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Speaker 5: was really sweet to my dog too, Like he looked

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Speaker 5: around trying to make sure we could find a patio

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Speaker 5: where the dog could sit with us outside what we

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Speaker 5: ate and yeah, I don't know, we have like a

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Speaker 5: great afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Did you tell him ahead of time that you were

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Speaker 2: bringing the dog on the date?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 4: I don't think so. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I didn't really think because it was a hike, we

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Speaker 4: But I don't think I don't. I don't think I did.

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Speaker 4: But he didn't seem to mind. I mean, who doesn't

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, must love dogs. I mean there are

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Speaker 2: some people that don't. He didn't seem like you minded it.

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Speaker 5: Not that I noticed, no, I mean he doesn't have

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Speaker 6: Okay, could was there anything that happened during the hike

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, something did kind of seem off after lunch,

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Speaker 5: he kind of left, not abruptly, but like, you know,

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Speaker 5: I thought we might continue hanging out, but I didn't

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Speaker 4: He ended up giving the rest of his meal to

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Speaker 2: But what did you guys eat?

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Speaker 5: I hope no, it's like tacos, like tacos.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I guess I just thought he got caught up with

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Speaker 5: he liked not strenuous hikes and it was too much.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Okay, I'm honestly just I'm baffled.

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Speaker 2: When you say it was different after you ate, like

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Speaker 2: or yeah, how was he different?

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Speaker 5: Like he he just kind of said he had to go,

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Speaker 5: and you know, I kept making suggestions of like oh,

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Speaker 5: we could walk back to our cars together, or like

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Speaker 5: I could drop the dog back at my house and

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Speaker 5: we could go do something else, and he just kind

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Speaker 5: of shut everything down.

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Speaker 2: I was like, no, I have to go.

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Speaker 5: Whereas earlier we had been talking about like making plans

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Speaker 5: for the future, you know what I mean, like kind

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Speaker 5: of talking about ideas of other things that we could do.

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Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, Okay, we'll see if we can figure

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Speaker 2: it out for you. We'll play a song come back,

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Speaker 2: and then call him and see if he'll tell us

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Speaker 2: why he's ghosting you, and then see if you also

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Speaker 2: want another date after you find out why, and maybe

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Speaker 2: you another date. Okay, okay, all right, play a song,

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Speaker 2: come back, and get your first day follow up.

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Speaker 2: Right in the middle of the first date follow up

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Speaker 2: and if you're just joining us, Avery is on the

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Speaker 2: phone and she's getting ghosted by Toby. So we're about

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Speaker 2: to call him and see if he'll tell us why

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Speaker 2: he's Ghostinger. But before we do that, Avery, why don't

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Speaker 2: you refresh everybody's memory on your date with Toby.

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Speaker 5: Sure, So we went hiking a couple of weeks ago

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Speaker 5: with my dog and went really well. Conversation was flowing fine,

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Speaker 5: we got food afterwards, seem to have a good time.

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Speaker 4: But since then he's kind of ghosted.

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Speaker 5: Me, and I'm not sure why he doesn't want to

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Speaker 5: get together again?

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Speaker 2: You ready to call him?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, here we go. Hello, Hi, Ma, I speak

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Speaker 7: to Toby please. Hey, yeah, this is Toby's Toby. How

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Speaker 7: are you.

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Speaker 2: My name is Jewbel. I host a radio show and

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Speaker 2: it's called The Jebel Show. Hi, Toby, the show's here too.

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Speaker 2: I'm Nina. Hi, I am Victoria.

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Speaker 3: How's it going? How's it going? I'm doing good? Thanks

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Speaker 3: for asking.

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Speaker 2: Do you listen to the show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard you guys show. I love it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, okay, we love that. Probably heard a first date

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Speaker 2: follow up before then? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Sweet? Well guess what tubes?

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Speaker 3: Oh hey, is this for uh the last date I have? Lavery?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a smart guy, Toe. Yeah, you seem pretty

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Speaker 2: casual about this. Did you expect us to call?

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Speaker 8: I know, I just uh yeah, I mean that was

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Speaker 3: That's what we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is what we're talking about. So Avery told us,

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Speaker 2: you know about your dat and stuff. She said, you

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Speaker 2: really liked you been a few weeks and you haven't

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Speaker 2: gotten back to her. She doesn't know why you're ghosting her.

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Speaker 2: So she wanted us to ask you, would you tell us?

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Speaker 2: Please tell U?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? So bad. But like I just couldn't stand her dog,

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Speaker 3: which she brought along the date, so it was a dog.

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Speaker 8: A problem, but I mean like just kind of like

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Speaker 8: a heads up would have been nice, you know, like, hey'

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Speaker 8: when I bring my dog on the hike, you know.

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Speaker 2: We asked her if she asked you or told you

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Speaker 6: Yeah, she said she didn't because she just figured it

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Speaker 6: was an outside hike. But she also mentioned that you

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Speaker 3: So I mean somebody kind of had too. I mean

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Speaker 3: mean the whole time it was like pulling her along.

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Speaker 8: And I was like, all right, I'm gonna have to

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Speaker 8: take over this lease because you're getting like.

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Speaker 3: Yanked, so it's kind of annoying, you know. And then.

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Speaker 8: I mean we got we got lunch, and the dog

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Speaker 8: And I was like, no, I mean, it's staring at

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Speaker 2: So the dog the food. She thought maybe you that

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Speaker 8: I was like, it looked like it was like judging me,

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Speaker 6: You like dogs, but you just didn't like this one

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Speaker 3: With the dog?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I know I love dogs, I love animals,

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Speaker 8: but I mean not that dog. I mean, if that

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, what are you crazy?

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Speaker 5: My dog is really well behaved. I honestly can't believe

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Speaker 5: you have a problem with her. I'm super offended right now.

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Speaker 2: Actually, Toby, Hi.

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Speaker 8: Hi there hi, I would disagree if you had a

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Speaker 8: problem with dogs.

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Speaker 5: I didn't like dogs. I didn't have to bring the

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Speaker 5: dog on the hike, but he had talked about them before,

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Speaker 5: and she's really really well behaved. She's completely trained. We

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Speaker 5: She was having fun and running around while we were hiking.

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Speaker 5: But that's literally what dogs do. So I didn't realize

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Speaker 8: I don't have a problem with dogs.

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Speaker 3: Your dog is not trained.

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Speaker 8: I think you should get a refund because whatever train

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Speaker 3: Dog is like wild. So I'm I'm sorry, but that's

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Speaker 4: I've never had anyone tell me that before. And I

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Speaker 4: brought my dog on other dates before.

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Speaker 5: She comes and hangs out with my friends and we

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Speaker 5: go to restaurants, and no one's.

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Speaker 4: Ever had a problem with her.

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Speaker 5: She's super cute and I don't know, maybe she's got

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Speaker 5: a weird vibe from you.

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Speaker 2: Oh that does happen.

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Speaker 3: I think other friends might not be telling you the truth.

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Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. Because you got to wrangle the

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Speaker 3: dog in.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't think we'll be hanging out again.

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Speaker 5: And then because I trust my dog, she has a

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Speaker 5: really good sense of character and she clearly didn't take you.

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Speaker 5: So I don't have any interests.

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Speaker 2: Either, are you sure, Toby, would you like to go

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Speaker 2: again with Avery on a second date? We'll pay for it. No,

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Speaker 2: I have to No, that's okay, I'll pass.

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Speaker 8: She can have a date with her dog.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't much rather hang out with my dog any day. Really,

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Speaker 4: we'll take my dog on the date.

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Speaker 2: It's yeah.

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Speaker 4: And maybe I'll see you on that hike again sometime

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Speaker 4: and she'll pee on your foot or something, okay.

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