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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Burrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on eight

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: I lo's you live on a Monday edition of Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Browns Daily. Merely, Bo, the great z lots of winner left.

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Speaker 2: According to a rodent in Pennsylvania. Now a rodent in

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Speaker 2: Ohio was saying less.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the rodent in Pennsylvania is a thirty nine

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Speaker 3: percent accuracy, and Chuck the Buckeye is seventy five percent.

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Speaker 3: So winner's over. ACU Weather would disagree vehemently. So I

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Speaker 3: have it.

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Speaker 2: I did some reconnaissance work on this, and it is

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Speaker 2: in central Ohio. It is the coldest January on record

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Speaker 2: since nineteen seventy seven. Yep, yep, yep. So I have

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Speaker 2: not talked to the folks in northeast Ohio and I

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Speaker 2: have not checked with their doppler, but according to the

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Speaker 2: dopplers down there, it's the coldest it's been since January. Buddy,

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Speaker 2: I was looking at the day to day app on

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Speaker 2: the ACU weather and there is not a day that

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Speaker 2: starts with a four through February. That's right. I mean

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Speaker 2: that's that's where we're at. Man. Yeah, not great is

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Speaker 2: what it is.

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Speaker 4: Not.

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Speaker 2: It is not great.

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Speaker 3: It has been, in fact, not fun out there the

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Speaker 3: half the tunder.

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Speaker 2: I mean we're like, I have people being like, oh,

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Speaker 2: it feels pretty good today. It's twenty.

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Speaker 1: Is that?

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Speaker 2: How hard up are we?

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Speaker 3: It was supposably for twenty the longest consecutive stretch of

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Speaker 3: sub twenty ever.

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Speaker 2: I believe that it was like negative eight this morning

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Speaker 2: when ok, yeah pipes, Yeah, boy, you didn't even think

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Speaker 2: about that, Like you just think about how frozen everything is.

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Speaker 2: Either the falls and grin are completely frozen over right

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Speaker 2: called completely completely Yeah yeah, it's uh, it's a wild time, brother,

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Speaker 2: It's hof dude, It's terrible. It is. And the crazy

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Speaker 2: thing is from a This is kind of the apex

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Speaker 2: week for television viewing. You have the winter for the

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Speaker 2: Winter Olympics are something that irrationally, non diehard sports fans

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Speaker 2: get into in a way that it's hard for me

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Speaker 3: It always makes good video games. I used to love

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Speaker 3: the winner great video games man.

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Speaker 2: The one was Tonic. Yeah, we one was good. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I used to have one on the I used to

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Speaker 3: the Neo Geo they have one? And on Genesis there

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Speaker 3: were some real good ones, good ones.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so you got that and then you got

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl Sunday. Do you do? I guess, I

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Speaker 3: This is the least discussed super Bowl I've ever liked.

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Speaker 2: It's almost like it's not even happening. Do you have

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Speaker 2: a theory on why. I think it's nobody.

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Speaker 3: It's the Patriots, and people aren't that excited for the

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Speaker 3: Patriots again, even though it's a completely new iteration in Seattle.

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Speaker 2: Seattle, you know, it's like, OK, I think it's yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think in a roundabout way, you nailed it. I

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Speaker 2: think what it is is, you know, typically when you

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Speaker 2: get to the Super Bowl, there are stakes, There are

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Speaker 2: and the Seahawks, and the Rams would be favored substantially

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Speaker 2: and then you'd be able to have some historical conversations

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Speaker 2: And it feels a little bit like I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: but even Manning was in that one. Yeah, there's no legacy. No.

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Speaker 2: None of that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if this was if the NFL, I think

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Speaker 2: For sure. This is like not it's happening in a vacuum.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's so uninteresting that it feels like on

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Speaker 3: Good Morning Football, instead of talking about this game and

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Speaker 3: every conversation that you have at this thing, which was

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Speaker 3: funny because like, now when he blows somebody off with

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Speaker 3: but yeah, it just it feels like there's there's nothing.

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Speaker 2: No, it's very little juice. It is I don't I

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Speaker 2: Draper selling it like that's a tough sell. I think totally, totally. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: But it doesn't it doesn't feel like there's a whole

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that wasn't even interesting. I'll tell you. The

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Speaker 2: That's it. That's a sport. Yeah, I guess ski jumping

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Speaker 2: the eighty eight Olympics in Calgary more closely than we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we lads, Yeah, Peak, And then they came back

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's when the game. Yeah. Yeah, was that

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Speaker 2: lou Gainus hit his head on the I believe you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, NHL players back at the Olympics this year is huge.

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Speaker 2: it's like if you are an NHL owner, it's a

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Speaker 2: hell of a thing. Like, yeah, Clubs Bluejacks is won

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Speaker 2: That's the one. In this case, something like that happens

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Speaker 2: and then a guy get gets hurt. Yeah, so that's that.

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Speaker 2: That one will be fun. That starts next week. The

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Speaker 2: when that gets going. All right. We have some coaching

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Speaker 2: updates we can tell you now. Officially, Toddmunkins introductory presser

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Speaker 2: and then Dylan gets a series it starts, and then

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00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 2: obviously Shaduer at the end. Very curious what Todd has

430
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 2: to say about his quarterback room tomorrow in his press conference.

431
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 2: I think I think that part's going to be very fascinating,

432
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 2: And I think that's the jumping off point. Deshaun Watson

433
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 2: is still on this roster, Dylan Gabriel is still on

434
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 2: this roster. Obviously should were Sanders, the pro bowler, is

435
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 2: still on this roster. So what is his approach to

436
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 2: that room. That's the jumping off point for everything else.

437
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 3: So just last year to kind of flesh out from

438
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,719
Speaker 3: a passing standpoint, dead last in the league in completion

439
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 3: percentage fifty seven point nine. We were in terms of

440
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 3: passing yards, we were second thirty first second worst in

441
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 3: the league, behind a head of only the Jets. We

442
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 3: were last in the league in yards per attempt, second

443
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 3: obviously in yards per game. In terms of passing touchdowns

444
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 3: in the league, we were thirtieth thirtieth, and then in

445
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 3: terms of interceptions, we had the third most. And when

446
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 3: you look at touchdown to interception ratios in the National

447
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 3: Football League last year, the Vikings and the Browns are

448
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 3: the only two teams that had more and the Yeah,

449
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 3: the Vikings and the Browns are the only two teams

450
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 3: that had more interceptions than they had passing touchdowns. And

451
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 3: then we were dead last in quarterback rating sixty nine

452
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 3: point nine. Nobody else was even below seventy five Jets, Vikings, nobody.

453
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 3: So it is absolutely imperative that we get this passing

454
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 3: game going now. One of the things that's been a

455
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 3: staple of Todd munkins passing attacks is that they have

456
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 3: a lot of air yards per attempt and thus a

457
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 3: lot of yards per attempt and get the ball down

458
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 3: the field. But yeah, we need a total overhaul of

459
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 3: this offense. And that's I think one of the reasons

460
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 3: why Todd Munkin was so appealing to this organization is

461
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 3: because he is a proven offensive coordinator.

462
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah, In terms of the quarterback room, Deshaun is here,

463
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 2: Dylan is here, Shaduer is here. I would assume Shuder

464
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 2: is the incumbent in that he started the most games

465
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 2: of anybody last year that remains in the room. I'm

466
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 2: very curious to know what that's Again goes back to

467
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 2: that when we were asked on Friday Show, like what

468
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: would you be your first question for Todd? I mean,

469
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 2: if I could have true serum, that would be it, Like,

470
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 2: how do you view these three guys? Is there a

471
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 2: solution in this room that you believe in? And if not,

472
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,719
Speaker 2: is there a possibility to upgrade this somewhere else? I mean,

473
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 2: I think that is once that decision is made and

474
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 2: that direction is made, then everything else kind of comes

475
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 2: off of that. But that has to be your first priority,

476
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 2: is how you view that room.

477
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, And unfortunately, I don't think that there is an

478
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 3: answer where you're saying, oh, this guy is the starter period.

479
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 3: I think it's going to have to be some level

480
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 3: of a competition. You know, Shador might be the incumbent.

481
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 3: He alright, he started the most games, fifty six percent completions,

482
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 3: fourteen hundred yard seven touchdowns, ten picks, quarterback rating of

483
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 3: sixty eight point one QBR was not great. His air

484
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 3: yards per attempt just five point one, and you know

485
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 3: Todd's offense. I think Lamar was over ten are yards

486
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 3: pert tempt last year.

487
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 2: So this is this is the biggest question.

488
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson obviously the most accomplished in the NFL, but

489
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 3: he is not really produced at that level since twenty twenty. Yes,

490
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 3: we're now going into twenty twenty six. And then Dylan

491
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 3: who took care of the football seven touchdowns, two picks.

492
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 3: He had the best touchdown interception ratio of anybody on

493
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 3: the team. You know, he was seven and two. The

494
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 3: rest of the quarterbacks were nine and sixteen. That's tenant

495
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 3: picks from Shador and six from Flaco against only two touchdowns,

496
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 3: which is crazy. Then you saw him go down to Cincinnati,

497
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 3: and so then it goes back to you know, weapons,

498
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 3: because what's the difference between Cincinnati and here.

499
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 2: Weapons? Yeah, elite weapons.

500
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 3: And so they have them, and the Browns have an opportunity,

501
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 3: I think, to get an elite weapon at the top

502
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 3: of this draft, and I hope you know that that

503
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 3: is the direction that they go I'll go back. I

504
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 3: don't know that anybody in this draft is regarded like

505
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase was. Unfortunately for the Browns he went fifth

506
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 3: over all that year, but the big scuttle butt was

507
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 3: are you going to go with you know him or

508
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 3: Piney Seoul. I think they're very happy that they have

509
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase because this is as important as a It

510
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: helps the wide receiver to have a weapons at house

511
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 3: a quarterback. I'm sorry to have weapons, and I think

512
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 3: that has got to be a huge, huge priority.

513
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: You have to be an offense that teams have to

514
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: There are a couple of guys on your offense that

515
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 2: are feared. We just didn't have chunk plays, yeah, you

516
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,719
Speaker 2: know at all. I mean everything for us last year

517
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 2: offensively was just a slog. What do we end up

518
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 2: thirtieth in total offense, thirty one in scoring offense? Like

519
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 2: it's just not good. It's just not a good There's

520
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 2: just no way to win there. Now you do have

521
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 2: some pieces, some of these young pieces. You get, you know,

522
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 2: four rookies leading with quin Shawn Jenkins. Of course, who's

523
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 2: you know, has it gonna have to come off of

524
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 2: a major injury, but he certainly flashed, but he flashed

525
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 2: more earlier, and then it started to dwindle a little

526
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 2: bit as the season went along because there was just

527
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 2: no threat in the in the past game to fear.

528
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 2: Dylan Sampson obviously there as well, and he had a

529
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 2: couple of moments. I thought the best consistent weapon we

530
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 2: had was Fannin.

531
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 3: Yes, and he was and he's you know, seventy two catches,

532
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 3: seven hundred and thirty one yards, seven total touchdowns.

533
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 2: Ran one.

534
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 3: He was a weapon Judkins. And by the way, I've

535
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 3: seen Judkins around the facility last couple of days. He

536
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: seems to being very good spirits.

537
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 2: He is on track.

538
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 3: He should be one hundred percent ready to go for

539
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 3: this season for the Browns and should be able to

540
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 3: get a lot of work I think in the offseason

541
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 3: even which is great great news. I've seen mj Emerson

542
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 3: as well, who's rehabbing, and that's been great to see

543
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 3: those guys that you hope you know play big roles.

544
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 3: But yeah, Fannin was the top guy. Now Monkin has

545
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 3: been very good with tight ends wherever he has gone.

546
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 3: I think that's got to be good for him. And

547
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 3: then the other guy that to me is a wild card,

548
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 3: and I know that I like him, I think more

549
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 3: than some. Is Isaiah Bond. Eighteen catches three hundred and

550
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 3: thirty eight yards, and he led this football team even

551
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 3: though he didn't catch fifty percent of his targets. And

552
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 3: you know a lot of that's because it's some of

553
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 3: the stuff was down the field, made some tough catches,

554
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 3: I thought as the season went on, But you know,

555
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 3: this is a guy eighteen point eight yards per catch,

556
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 3: eighteen point eight. Not a single person on the team

557
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 3: was even at thirteen yards a catch. Nobody else Jerry

558
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,719
Speaker 3: Judy was at twelve. Brendan Bates, who caught two passes,

559
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 3: was at twelve point five, Cedar Tillman was at twelve

560
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 3: point nine, nobody else at thirteen.

561
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 2: He was at eighteen point eight. So I thought that

562
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: was very, very impressive.

563
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 3: And he led the team in yards per target seven

564
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 3: point seven, which is basically a yard clear of anybody

565
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 3: else who was heavily involved. Harold Fannom was second at

566
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 3: six point eight. So I think that you have something potentially,

567
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 3: you know, there with him with Isaiah Bond. So I

568
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 3: like Isaiah Bond. I like his speed, and you know,

569
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 3: I think that you look at Monkin and that's a

570
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: guy who knows how to utilize wide receivers with speed.

571
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 3: So I think that those are two. You have some

572
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 3: young pieces that are pretty good. Judkins and Samson I

573
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 3: think are a very nice backfield duo. Fan and I

574
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 3: think is going to be, you know, a tight end,

575
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: big slot and a lot of times Mark Anders was

576
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 3: lined up in the slot and his hey Dan was

577
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 3: a pro bowler there. And then Bond with a little

578
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 3: bit of that speed to complement the veterans, and then

579
00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 3: I think you're going to have to add to that.

580
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 3: As we talked about, you know, over and over again

581
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 3: in this draft.

582
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: I think Bond's the one where you have access to

583
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: the ALL twenty two And so when people say, well,

584
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: what do you see in him, Well, what you see

585
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: is him getting open, and you see him behind the

586
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: defense at a single week. That's every behind the defense

587
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: every single week. And if you're just watching games, unless

588
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: you go to the games or have ALL twenty two

589
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: and see what happens, he gets behind the defense every week, yep.

590
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: And so he is untapped in that sense to where

591
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 2: you read eighteen to thirty eight and you go three

592
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 2: thirty eight and you go, well, that ain't it. But

593
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,719
Speaker 2: then you go, if you watch the All twenty two

594
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: or if you actually physically go to the games and

595
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: just keep an eye on what he does, you know

596
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: that his speed is something that teams have feared, and

597
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: despite them fearing it, he realizes those fears by getting

598
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: deep and that's that's where the value is for there.

599
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: In terms of the offensive line, that is going to

600
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: be potentially a massive undertaking because we do not have

601
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: the answers in terms of who your starters are going

602
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 2: to be upfront. And when you talk about that, notable

603
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 2: free agents going into twenty twenty six on the offensive

604
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: side of the ball, obviously from a skill position standpoint,

605
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: Jerome Ford the Chief, Malachi Corley, and then at offensive

606
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: line it's Conklind, Cam Robinson, Tevin Jenkins, Joel Beatonio Wyatt Teller,

607
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: Ethan Posik all free agents.

608
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's a that's the whole line. That

609
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 3: is the whole line, and so it's it's really tough

610
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 3: to know exactly who is going to be up there.

611
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 3: Obviously we talked about in the draft that's got to

612
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 3: be a ton of your assets in the draft. But yeah,

613
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,959
Speaker 3: lots of free agents, lots of change, and a lot

614
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 3: of guys that were very familiar names to your team

615
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 3: that you're going to have to figure out exactly what

616
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 3: that is going to look like going forward. So that's

617
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 3: the tough part about it, and that's why there's a

618
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 3: lot of work to be done. Like this is offense,

619
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 3: and you know, Todd Monkin is going to have, i think,

620
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 3: an opportunity to come in here and try to mold

621
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 3: it in his the way that he wants it, just

622
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 3: because there are so many needs here and when you

623
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 3: don't hit on some of the draft picks, and now

624
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: it's too early to say for sure, but when you

625
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 3: feel like, okay, you know, I need to see you know,

626
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 3: Zack Zinter, it was a third round pick, like he

627
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 3: was drafted to be a plug and starter right now,

628
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 3: right and that is unfortunately that's not the case. So

629
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 3: that that makes it even tougher to see what exactly

630
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 3: is is going to happen here for the Cleveland Browns

631
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 3: at that spot. So yet you've got you have so

632
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 3: many people who are free agents right now, and it

633
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 3: is there's going to have to be tough decisions made

634
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 3: on who comes back, who doesn't. Yeah, you know, guys

635
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 3: that have played a lot, like Cam Robinson has played

636
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: a lot in this league. But you know him, he

637
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 3: and Tevin Jenkins are are free agents.

638
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: They're all all.

639
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 3: You know, they're voidiers on their contract, but they are true, true,

640
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 3: true free agents. And so you think about guys that

641
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: really played a lot for you on the offensive line

642
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 3: last year. You know, Dewan is coming back from injury

643
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 3: again unfortunately, and you know how much I love him,

644
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 3: great affection, love for him. But he's from injury again,

645
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: a season ending injury. You know, he was your starting

646
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 3: left tackle. Cam Robinson was the other left tackle. He's

647
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 3: a free agent. Your left guard Joel Botonio is a

648
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: free agent and might retire. Yeah, so it feels unlikely

649
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 3: that he would be back now. If he wants to

650
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 3: be back here, he would be welcome back with open arms.

651
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 3: I think that, you know, you have to wonder with him,

652
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 3: do I want to play again? And if I do

653
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 3: want to play again, do I want to go try

654
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 3: to win a Super Bowl somewhere?

655
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: Sure? You know he's got an opportunity to explore that. Well,

656
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 2: I think, I mean that's one of that that's a conversation.

657
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's gonna lean on the Hoff because Hoff

658
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: lived this exactly the way Joel is, and I, you know,

659
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: I think, you know, I'd be very curious to be

660
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: a fly on the wall for that conversation of how

661
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: that goes, because obviously Joel was still very very effective

662
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: at left guard and play had a great season and

663
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: how much longer do you want to do it? One

664
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: thing you hear from guys who played in the league

665
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: for a long time and then hung it up. One

666
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: of the consistent things. This is sometimes hard for fans

667
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: because we see, you know, as the as the production

668
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 2: starts to slip, you know, we say, oh, we don't

669
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: want to see the struggle. But the reality is a

670
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,959
Speaker 2: lot of these guys want to play as long as

671
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: they can because there's nothing else like it. What else

672
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: can you do where you can make that kind of

673
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 2: money and also have that type of job, Like it's

674
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: a fun job being a professional athlete, and so you

675
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: want to stay in it as long as you can.

676
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: And so that's going to be so for Joel, it's

677
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: a retirement, come back to the Browns, or does he

678
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: go chase a Super Bowl in one of those West

679
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: Western teams that need some offensive line help. I mean,

680
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 2: you think about the Chargers, the Broncos were certainly rumored

681
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: at the deadline, so all of that is in play,

682
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: certainly for him. But as you're going through that there,

683
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: I mean, who would you say that you could say,

684
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 2: all right, plug and play, that's your starting this.

685
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 3: No, So here are the guys that play the most

686
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 3: snaps on the eye offensive line for the Browns last year, Buttonio,

687
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 3: Ethan Posik, Teller, Cam Robinson.

688
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: Top four.

689
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 3: Those are all free agents. Kat Leviston was fifth, he

690
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 3: could be back this year. Jack Conklin is sixth. Free agent.

691
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: Cornelius Lucas got benched and basically demoted, so I wouldn't

692
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 3: expect him to be here. And then Luke Whipler and

693
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: Luke Whippler injury at the end of the year but

694
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 3: played very well unfortunately wasn't a serious injury. And then

695
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 3: Dwan Jones. So those are your top ten and of

696
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 3: the top ten, only Whippler, Dwan Jones, Cornelius Lucas, and

697
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 3: kt Leviston are under contract.

698
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 2: That's not great. It's not a great scenario.

699
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: And so it is you need to completely rebuild this

700
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 3: line and That's why I like the idea of you know,

701
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: getting that receiver early, get a real difference maker at

702
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 3: six yep, and then you can draft a bunch of linemen.

703
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 2: Sign You're gonna have to sign some linemen. Yeah, you

704
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: do have to wonder like if Warhop's connections around the

705
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: league will help with that. Are there guys that that

706
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: you know, he's been around the league so long as

707
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: it be a professional offensive line coach for thirty years? Like,

708
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 2: is there a are there people he knows who he

709
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: can plug in sure and be ready to go because

710
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to lean on that heavily because you

711
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: can't just draft six rookie offensive linemen, right, It's not

712
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 2: gonna work.

713
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 3: No, And I think a lot of people want the

714
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 3: Browns to go after Tyler Linderbaum and it sounds great,

715
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 3: but he's probably gonna be the highest paid center in

716
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 3: the NFL when he signs.

717
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so, I don't think that we have that.

718
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 3: That ability to make that kind of PFF says it's

719
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 3: gonna be a four year, eighty million dollar deal with

720
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 3: fifty three million guaranteed.

721
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not. We can't swim in those waters. I

722
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 2: don't believe, so no, no, yeah, So you're gonna have

723
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 2: to piece me all this together. A big boost would

724
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 2: be a Potonio comes back, uh, obviously, And and then

725
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 2: beyond that, you're gonna have to put in a lot

726
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: of work, a.

727
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 3: Lot of work on this, a great deal of work,

728
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 3: and you're gonna have to really be able to.

729
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 2: It's going to be very hard. I mean, it's gonna

730
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: be hard to get.

731
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 3: That's why, you know, the idea that you're gonna be

732
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: able to turn this offense around in one year.

733
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: Is tough to envision. Now again, it doesn't have to

734
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 2: become a top ten offense.

735
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 3: If it just could become an average offense with our defense,

736
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 3: I think we can win a lot of games. So

737
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 3: I think that's that's really a big part of the

738
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 3: goal here is to to get it to that point.

739
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 3: And that's what Todd Munkin is here to do. I mean,

740
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 3: that's the that's the reality of situation is that this

741
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 3: is this is not an easy undertaking. Like here, You're

742
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: fine if you look at it. Quarterback room is a

743
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 3: huge question mark, right, yep, you have some promise inshaudor

744
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 3: you know, Gabriel, show that I think that he can

745
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 3: be a decent backup and spot starter for you, and

746
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 3: then you have the unknown of Deshaun Watson, and then

747
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 3: it's okay if we want somebody else, are we able

748
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 3: to swing a trade for like a Mac Jones or

749
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 3: are we a team that's going to have the funds

750
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 3: to be to go get Malik Willis.

751
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: Who's going to be a super hot name. It feels

752
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 2: like in free agency like he's straight to Miami. And

753
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: my guess for that would be no, right that we

754
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: don't have enough money to do that. I mean, if

755
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 2: Justin Field's got two forty two for forty last year

756
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: with the Jets, don't you think that's what willis minimum? Yeah,

757
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: I mean he might be more like probably not Darnald,

758
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: probably not one hundred. But I think it's going to

759
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: be up there, and I think there's a lot of

760
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: teams that need it. I mean, Arizona's going to have

761
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: to address it, Miami's going to have to address it

762
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: well in Arizona's laflor correct, and Halfley's in Miami, right,

763
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 2: So both of those guys know him well, yes, and

764
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 2: know what he can do and can't do or what

765
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 2: his struggles are so and he played really good for

766
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: Green Bay and spot duty. I think I think that

767
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: could be too rich. Yeah, if you want to go

768
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: down that road.

769
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 3: So that's obviously a lot of question marks there at

770
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 3: the most important position in all sports, running back room.

771
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 3: I think you're good Judkins, Samson, Raheem Sanders, you bring somebody,

772
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 3: you find somebody to be at third.

773
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: I think you're fine there.

774
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: Wide receiver. You got Judy, You've got Bond, You've got

775
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 3: Tillman who has not been able to stay healthy either unfortunately,

776
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 3: and shose some flashes Jamari Thrash. It feels like completely

777
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 3: fell out of favor as the season went on last year. Yep,

778
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 3: Malachi Corey showed you some stuff, but he's a free agent.

779
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 3: You know you need one, two, three here. I think, yeah,

780
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 3: you need dude.

781
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

782
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 3: Now, if you had a dude and all of a

783
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 3: sudden your three is let's call it Carnel Tait, Jerry, Judy,

784
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 3: and Isaiah Bond, Like I could get excited about that. Yeah,

785
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 3: I could talk myself into that tight end you got

786
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 3: fan in chief is a free agent and it feels

787
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 3: like might be moving on, so you need at least

788
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 3: another tight end or two and then the O line

789
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,479
Speaker 3: as it stands right now. I mean, if you called

790
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 3: Dewanda starter, if you call Luke Whippler starter, you need

791
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 3: at least three starters. And the reality is you probably

792
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 3: need like fourign half starters, right and of your top

793
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 3: eight offensive lineman, let's just do it that way, you

794
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 3: need like six.

795
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so there's and that's just human bodies. That's

796
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: like ten ton ton of work that needs to be done. Yeah.

797
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 2: On outside of the ball, Yeah, it'll happen in free agency,

798
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 2: can happen via trades, it'll happen in the draft. But offensively,

799
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: I mean, when we do the roster breakdown, what is

800
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 2: our offensive breakdown? Usually when we do the fifty twenty four,

801
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: there's usually more defensive players and offensive players. It's usually

802
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: around twenty four. So of that twenty four, like, how

803
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: many need to be new?

804
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: Like right now, when you said to me, who's guaranteed

805
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 3: a roster spot on this team next year, that's that's

806
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 3: currently here, Yeah, I would say Quinn Sewn and Dylan

807
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 3: Samson at running back, at wide receiver, I would say

808
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 3: Jerry Judy, Isaiah Bond.

809
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like guaran guaranteed lock Stock they're here, no

810
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: chance yep, tight end fan in offensive line probably Dwand

811
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: and Whippler yep. And then three quarterbacks. Quarterbacks.

812
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 3: I don't know they'd all be guaranteed, but I'd say

813
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 3: at least two of them. So yeah, I will just

814
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 3: list all three, but I don't know that, Yeah, there

815
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: are any guarantees there. You know, should or probably feels

816
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 3: like the closest. I mean, Deshawn's gonna be on the roster,

817
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 3: So actually you could put Dashaun should or I'll put

818
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: all three of them. Yeah, so even you put three there, three, five, seven, eight,

819
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 3: night and that's ten, so fourteen new faces potentially yeah,

820
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 3: I mean like Tillman I think could be here, Corley

821
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 3: could be here, Zenter potentially could be here. But at

822
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 3: some point it's like if you're not even active, right,

823
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: you know, oh kt Leviston kt Leviston will be here.

824
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 2: You're still ten. Yeah, and if you go yeah yeah, full,

825
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 2: it's going to be a complete reshouldering of the deck.

826
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Speaker 3: And well, when you're that, when the results are what

827
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 3: the results are, it's not surprising.

828
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: No, you know that's that necessitates Now, Yeah, it's going

829
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 2: to be a fascinating and a massive year for Angrewburry

830
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: in the front office with a lot of new faces

831
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: coming in here. We'll do the defense in the second

832
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 2: hour of the program. Coming up next, we will go

833
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,239
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Speaker 2: By time to go around the league. The final two

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Speaker 2: head coaching vacancy's were filled this week, and one reportedly

840
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Speaker 2: Let's start in Las Vegas. The Raiders are expected to

841
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: officially hire Seahawks office of quarter Cink Kubiak is their

842
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 2: next head coach. Kubiak will coordinate the offense for Seattle

843
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: and the Super Bowl and then head off to Vegas.

844
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: He will be armed with the number one pick in

845
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 2: the draft, which I assume they will take Fernando Mendoza

846
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 2: with obviously Ashton Genti's there, brock Bowers, is there? Ninety

847
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 2: million in cap space? Is there? Tom Brady as a resource?

848
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: Is there? What I think is really interesting about this

849
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 2: is if you watch the NFC championship game. Yeah, there's

850
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: no doubt this was happening. Tom Brady's praise of Clint Kubiak.

851
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was off the charine a half hours

852
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 3: and supposedly like spend a ton of time with him,

853
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 3: pregame like a ton of time where it was the

854
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 3: least the most obvious thing that there was. And so

855
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 3: he's going to get Mendoza, He's got his guy there.

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00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 2: Are you surprised that people don't have that there hasn't

857
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: been more pushback. I mean that's a hell of an advantage.

858
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: Of course we talked to It's kind of wild. I

859
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: don't allowed to do it. I don't think he should

860
00:42:55,600 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: be allowed to do it. Yeah, but that's what it is.

861
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 2: I mean, that's honestly, that's it.

862
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 3: Doesn't make a lot of sense because of the access

863
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 3: and the all of the things that he gets that

864
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 3: other ownership groups just would not have. So no, I

865
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 3: don't think it's necessarily right. It's pretty wild, though.

866
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. This is still the spot too, I

867
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: think for the Buckeye fans who listened to this as well,

868
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 2: this is also the spot that you get a little

869
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: bit nervous about Matt Patricia going to Vegas as well,

870
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: the connection with Tom and assume that there's a good

871
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: relationship there. I know people in Columbus are a little

872
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 2: concerned that maybe Patricia runs that defense for Kubiak, does

873
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: any tie to him? I think he has any ties

874
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 2: to Kubiak, But obviously he has great ties to Brady

875
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: and it Breed has a lot of influence, which he

876
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 2: clearly does. Seems like he ran this whole search that

877
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: that's the one down there that there's a little bit

878
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 2: of trouble. Who are who are their coordinators right now

879
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 2: in Columbus? Yeah, Matt, Patricia and Arthur Smith?

880
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 5: Okay, say, how's the reaction down in Columbus been to

881
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 5: Arthur Smith?

882
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 2: I thought, I read that, Yeah, what's the reaction to that?

883
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 2: I think that there is a faction of the fan

884
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: base that is, like, my god, they hired a guy

885
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 2: who's another guy who is an NFL head coach, who

886
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 2: you know, had some success in the league with the Titans,

887
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: and certainly enough to where he was the head coach

888
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: of the Atlanta Falcons. But I think when you thought

889
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: of the names that were available, he's not one who

890
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 2: came up very often. What is the I mean he

891
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: lives in twelve personnel he does that is not a

892
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 2: college no, not at all. So the thinking is that

893
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 2: he's going to run Ryan Day's offense and then sprinkle

894
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 2: his stuff into it. So they're in the middle of

895
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 2: a pretty big philosophical change on how to build a roster,

896
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: how to build coaching staff. And I think what Ryan

897
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: wants to do is he wants to hire these NFL

898
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 2: guys to come in in like two year intervals and

899
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 2: kind of be NFL you like, we're gonna get you ready,

900
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 2: and that's going to be part of the salesmanship of it.

901
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 2: So you know Chip Kelly, who was there a couple

902
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 2: of years ago, he ran Ryan's offense. He just put

903
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: his imprints on it, and they want it to a

904
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: national championship. Blesh er. Brian Hartline was there now he's

905
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 2: at USF, and so he wanted to go back to

906
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: that world a little bit and get an NFL guy.

907
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: In other words, I trust you, I can stay out

908
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: of the offense. This is my offense. Just run at

909
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: how you want and I'll stay out of it. Because

910
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 2: there's so many other things to do in college football

911
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 2: now that he just can't You can't really do that anymore. So, Yeah,

912
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's the world that they're going

913
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: to be living in. I was, and you know, I

914
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,959
Speaker 2: mean how we've talked about him a lot on this show,

915
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: and one of the things that I always thought of

916
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: as soon as the hiring was made is just what

917
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: you said, I'm like, he's going to he lives in

918
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: twelve lives. That is just not what Ohio State has been.

919
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 2: College football is no no, And now the other thing

920
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: that's kind of changed is only ten coaches can go

921
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 2: on the road and recruit now in college football, so

922
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 2: like the coordinators aren't going to have to go on

923
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: the road and recruit as much as they're used to.

924
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: There used to be this saying where if your co

925
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: coordinators weren't out talking to kids, that it was viewed

926
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 2: as like a massive negative. I don't think that's the

927
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 2: case anymore.

928
00:45:58,800 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 5: So.

929
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if Arthur is going to be on

930
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 2: the road recruiting. Patricia's recruiting, like you see him out

931
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: there recruiting with James and with Ryan and and all

932
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: of that. But I don't know if Arthur's going to

933
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: do it or not. But no, it was surprising. I mean,

934
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 2: a lot of Dabel. There's a lot of Dable rumors

935
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: down there, even some Kingsbury stuff. But but to go

936
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 2: Arthur was interesting to me, just philosophically, very different from

937
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: what just what Ohio State is.

938
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 5: Whosmith was eligibility, I don't know. I don't know anyone

939
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 5: has eligibility now you can.

940
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: You saw that kid for Alabama played in the NBA

941
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 2: and then played this weekend for Alabama league dropout. He

942
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 2: won that he's playing, he got to stay, and so

943
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: he played this weekend. Florida had some fun with it.

944
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 2: I mean they beat him, and then Todd Golden, the

945
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 2: coach at Florida, really stuck it to him. But like, yeah,

946
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 2: I mean they're they're played with a G league guy.

947
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's what's going on there. Brother.

948
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 5: Well, then you got a Mary Bailey from UCLA who's

949
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 5: played in regular season NBA games. He's like, hey, I

950
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 5: want some eligibility.

951
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: Not to be fair, it's not any different than European

952
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: kid who played professionally overseas, right, So, and that's happening. Yeah,

953
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: virgin you signed a bunch of those guys. If you

954
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: sign a kid who played at Fenerbacci or Barcelona or wherever,

955
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 2: and they were a professional player from the time they're sixteen,

956
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: and they have eligibility in college basketball. Why can an

957
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 2: NBA guy This is the problem with college sports. How

958
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 2: do you argue it? It's a mess back to some

959
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 2: sanity of the NFL. To the surprise of No. One,

960
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: Michael floor, I felt like this was the biggest foregun

961
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: conclusion in the whole process. Yep, was Michael Laflour to Arizona.

962
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: We start hearing this as soon as the season was over,

963
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 2: so he will be the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals.

964
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 2: They become the second active pair of brothers to be

965
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 2: head coaches Jim and John Arbov of course the others.

966
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 2: Laflour became the latest person to be hired as head

967
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 2: coach after working with Sean McVay. That's a total of six.

968
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 2: Matt Lafleur became the Packers head coach in seventeen, Kevin

969
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 2: O'Connell Vikings head coach in twenty twenty, Liam Cohen Jaguars

970
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 2: head coach in twenty twenty one after being the Rams

971
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 2: officer last year, to be in ramzoc in twenty twenty one.

972
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: Brandon Staley was there as well. Raheem Morris as well.

973
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 2: I'll speak of Morris. He's been hired as the forty

974
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 2: nine ers defensive coordinator. Speaking of defensive coordinators, Anthony Weaver

975
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 2: will be just Sue Miner's defensive coordinator in Baltimore.

976
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 3: Interesting, Okay, that's good. And he's been in Baltimore. He

977
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 3: was the defensive line coach for a while. They're played

978
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 3: there for the Baltimore Ravens. And somebody that people do

979
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 3: think will be a head coach at some point in

980
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 3: his career. I think Mike Laflora is one of the

981
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 3: more interesting hires. He is the only person in the

982
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 3: league that has had significant experience as an OC or

983
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 3: some type for the Niners for a while, he was

984
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 3: COOC basically they called him run game coordinator, a pass

985
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 3: game coordinator, and Mike McDaniel was the other. Yeah, but

986
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 3: he's the only one I know of that has significant

987
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 3: experience with both Kyle and McVeigh.

988
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.

989
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 3: So I thought he would have been a very interesting

990
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 3: or appealing person for us to look at. Obviously, was

991
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 3: not the case, and he gets this job now with

992
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals. But you know, he was with Kyle

993
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 3: twenty fourteen. Here, he was that offensive intern twenty fifteen

994
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 3: and sixteen in Atlanta offensive assistant.

995
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 2: San Francisco.

996
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 3: He's the past game coordinator and wide receivers coach from

997
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 3: seventeen through twenty oc for Bob Solo. When he takes

998
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 3: a job with the Jets in twenty one twenty two.

999
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 3: He's been the Rams, oh see the last three year,

1000
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 3: so he has basically in two, three, four, five, seven

1001
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 3: years with Kyle, three years with McVeigh, ten years working

1002
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 3: for those two guys. I just would be curious. I

1003
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 3: think he would have been a fun interview just to

1004
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 3: know what the heck he thought of all that, you.

1005
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 2: Know what I mean? Thirty nine years old or thirty

1006
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: eight years old, turned thirty nine this year.

1007
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 3: I think I think he'll be good now. I just

1008
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 3: think he's stepping into a nearly impossible situation. They don't

1009
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 3: know what they're quarterback situation is there? They are in

1010
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 3: a division with McVeigh.

1011
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 2: Kyle and the team that's in the super Bowl. I

1012
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 2: mean that is I thought it was the hardest shot,

1013
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 2: absolutely absolutely yeah, and then you have this, you know whatever,

1014
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: the solution ends up being for k Kyler. It seems

1015
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: like he's gone, But then do you replace him? What

1016
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 2: does that look like? That's where the Malik Willis conversation

1017
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 2: comes in. I have no idea what their cap situation is,

1018
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: but there's now the weather's great. It's a I mean,

1019
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 2: that's an eat. That's so, that's a layout. That's a

1020
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: pretty easy cell cap space.

1021
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 3: The Titans have the most Raiders, second, Chargers, third, Jets, fourth,

1022
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 3: Commander's fifth, Seahawks six.

1023
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: That's scary.

1024
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 3: Bengal seventh, Rams, eighth, Steelers ninth, nine Ers, tenth, Patriots,

1025
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 3: Cardinals are right there.

1026
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 2: They got forty two million over the cap. Yeah. Other

1027
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 2: news around the league the league signing multi year deal

1028
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 2: to keep playing games in Madrid at the Santiego Bernabeau.

1029
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 2: Here is who is this from here? G man?

1030
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 5: We I mean just some audio here, just remembering some

1031
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 5: fun times against Madrid.

1032
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 2: That's all. Go ahead, Rice with a rifle, yep, yep,

1033
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 2: absolutely unstoppable. Don't forget don't forget it from Rice. This happened.

1034
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: Rush again, name.

1035
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 5: Struck twice, declan RS your boy, that's my boy, your boy.

1036
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 2: I rolled right into the King's cloth.

1037
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 5: He'd killed me if he was.

1038
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: You're the head. Now, why you playing? You're the captain?

1039
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: Now going to see here? Why are you playing?

1040
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 5: The ghost soccer highlights on Cleveland is so great.

1041
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 2: Just blame it on me.

1042
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 5: Blame it on cav That's Kurt See of Paramount Plus.

1043
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 2: By the way, thank you. Additionally, the league announce of

1044
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 2: the Saints will be the home team for the NFL's

1045
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 2: first regular season game in Paris in twenty twenty six.

1046
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 2: The game will take place at Sadia des France, a

1047
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 2: stadium in Paris that holds over eighty thousand. This is

1048
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 2: PSG's place, right.

1049
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 5: No, that is the park to princes. Oh, this is

1050
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 5: just France's national stadium.

1051
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: National stadium. Okay, very good. Lots of lots of whispers

1052
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 2: about we were there. Yes, who knows. I'm sold by

1053
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: boots on the near ground. That it that's that it

1054
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 2: is us And typically those boots are pretty locked in,

1055
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 2: pretty locked on these type of things, obviously. But for

1056
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 2: the UK or outside of the UK, we are yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1057
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 2: certainly our our London bureau chief, but this is a

1058
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 2: London adjacent it is, yeah, I mean it would be

1059
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: be fun to you take the chunnel. They did a

1060
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 2: mission impossible that go right from right into I've never

1061
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 2: been over there. I don't know, I don't know. It's

1062
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 2: what I think that's what it is, right, Yeah, I

1063
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 2: think it is.

1064
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like it to me. Yeah, that would

1065
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 3: be fun. So we'll see, we'll see if that one

1066
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 3: actually does take place, connects to the UK and France.

1067
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: Would you rather what would be your number one European destination?

1068
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 2: If you could go play anywhere in Europe that we

1069
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: play football games, where would it be? I mean Paris

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00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 2: would be up there.

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00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 3: I love Paris, Munich just because to go there with

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00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 3: like the hof As, like tour guide the adopted son

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00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 3: of Munich would be amazing. And then I would think,

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00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 3: and then Madrid would be really cool. Yeah, Paris I've

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00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 3: been to, so they kind of. I haven't spent any

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00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 3: real time in Munich or Madrid. I've been to Barcelona. Barcelona, yeah,

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00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 3: but I haven't been to Paris in a long time.

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00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,959
Speaker 3: In Paris is pretty amazing, pretty great.

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00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's a great city?

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Speaker 5: What's your favorite thing that the French have given us

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00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 5: besides like the Louisiana territory? Why boy, did we lovely

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00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 5: bordeaus sence on the dollar for all that land?

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00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 2: Yeah? That beautiful friends. Yeah, they did a nice job

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00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 2: with that. By the way, second hour of the program

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Speaker 2: is coming up next. We'll take a look at the

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00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: state of the defense. In addition to that. Your weekend

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. Time for your weekend headlines. Hello, g Man,

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Speaker 2: Hi running things. Hi, how's it going. We're workshopping. I

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00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 2: don't want to you're not going to give too much,

1102
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 2: but there was an audio message that was shared that

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00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 2: I think is going to be a delightful little drop in.

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00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 2: Oh you you shared to us? Yeah, you think so?

1105
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 2: Should I drop it in?

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00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 5: No?

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00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 2: Not yet? All right, sorry, well not yet. We'll start

1108
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 2: in the national show. All right.

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00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 5: We already discussed that the NFL is coming to Paris

1110
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 5: for the first time have an NFL regular season game

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00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 5: in France. So my question to you is if you

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00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 5: had to choose one venue that has not hosted a

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00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 5: regular season game, and I want you both to pick

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00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 5: somewhere different.

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00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 2: Okay, where would you choose?

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00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 5: So so far there's been NFL games in Australia, France, Canada, Brazil, Germany, Spain,

1117
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 5: the UK, Ireland and Mexico.

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00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 2: This is easy. So we have to pick one that

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00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 2: it hasn't that there hasn't been, correct, Okay. So the

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00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 2: prerequisite on that would be you need to have a stadium, yes,

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00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: because it's not like you can play an NFL game

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00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 2: in Bora, Bora, right, So you need to have an

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00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 2: NFL stadium. So you need to have a stadium that

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Speaker 2: seats at least fifty thousand.

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00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 5: Yep.

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00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:38,919
Speaker 2: So to me, based on you know, kind of that criteria,

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00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: I mean I think that you would go to you'd

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Speaker 2: go to Italy, right, and that's where my head's at.

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Speaker 2: I would think of Milan, yes, right, you'd either go

1130
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 2: Milan and play the Venta Olympico Juventus played. This is

1131
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 2: in northern in Turin, but they play in Alion stadium.

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00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 2: Is that right? I believe that is forty one big enough?

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00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 3: Not big You got to be sand zero seventy five,

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00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 3: eight seventeen where Milan and f CI Milan play, or

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00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 3: in Malan, I'm sorry. And then Stadio in Milan, great

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00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 3: great kit the Black and the Blue love it, oh

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00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 3: Sadio Olamiko where Roma and Lazio play. Yeah, so that

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00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 3: that to me feels like seventy thousand. Those are the

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00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 3: only two, that's it? Yeah, those are the two.

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00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 2: Is there anybody else in Europe that we haven't done

1141
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 2: that we should? I don't think so. Wonder what Lisbon

1142
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: could look like? That's interesting saying about Portugal as well.

1143
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 5: Sporting plays it in Lisbon. I don't know what their

1144
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 5: stadium's called.

1145
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 2: Probably not big enough. Probably is Aisha the biggest stadium

1146
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 2: in Croatius thirty three thousand, nine eighty seven were uh,

1147
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 2: split and split. Yeah, there's a couple in Istanbul like

1148
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:50,439
Speaker 2: Fenerbacci plays in a big joint. Gallaitasi's there as well,

1149
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 2: But I don't know if it's seventy thousand.

1150
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 5: Is Scotland like maybe maybe where Rangers plays, maybe where

1151
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 5: Celtic Celtic play, one of those two. Yeah, I think

1152
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 5: Scotland could be a doable one.

1153
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Scotland for sure would be would be dual. We've

1154
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 2: played in Ireland in Dublin and that was all the

1155
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 2: Ireland tourism that got that thing done. They still play

1156
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 2: those college football games there every year. They have a

1157
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 2: seventy eight thousand seat one in Istanbul what you were

1158
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 2: talking about.

1159
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if there's anywhere big enough in Scandinavia.

1160
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 2: Like sweet, I can't imagine there could be, like i

1161
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 2: AX plays. I mean the IX is a massive club

1162
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 2: that's Dutch such yea Holland, so that would potentially be one.

1163
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1164
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 2: There The biggest stadium in Denmark is where f C

1165
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 2: Copenhagen plays, okay, thirty eight thousands, the Champions League team. Yeah, yeah,

1166
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 2: that's see where I where's it Iaxes Netherlands. Yeah, Netherlands,

1167
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 2: and then we've done Brazil. Have we done Rio yet?

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00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 2: Rio is this year? This year's Rio, So that would

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00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 2: be a great one. I'd be interested in Melbourne. Yeah,

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00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: I think the Alburn is this year as well. Fifty five.

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00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 2: That's hardly it's not it, It's not it. In Africa

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00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 2: would probably be Egypt. I would think, like Cairo, like

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00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 2: their national stadium. I would think, or would you be

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00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 2: maybe it might be South.

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00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 5: South those places in Johannesburg and Cape townst Yea.

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00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 2: From the Olympics, ten World Cup. Maybe Yeah, I think

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00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 2: Italy is the answer though, Yeah, it's got.

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00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 5: To be it.

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00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 2: I think that's the one that makes the most sense.

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00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 2: Ge what about Greece Athens? I mean there would be

1181
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 2: the stadiums, there would be Athens Olympics where the Olympics

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00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 2: were seventy thousand, So you could do that. Yeah, I

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00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 2: wonder it'd be interesting to know, like the hof on

1184
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 2: his travels, you know what markets really had a fever

1185
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 2: for it. We know the German market does. Obviously, Spain

1186
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 2: was incredible last year. We know London is very very strong.

1187
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 2: Like I'm curious, like do people in Italy. Are they

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00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 2: into it? They'd have to be, I would think, but

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00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 2: you know, you just don't know. I just you know,

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00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 2: I'm going to assume the farther east you go the less.

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00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 2: But who knows. Who knows. There's a massive state if

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01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 2: you do the far East. Yeah, massive, Like some of

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01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 2: those cricket stadiums are one hundred and twenty thousand. Yeah

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01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 2: for some of those, So if you ever wanted to

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01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 2: do those that they would have that for there.

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01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 5: But I think the one in Australia is in a

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01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 5: cricket stadium. Yeah, all right, we'll take you out to

1198
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 5: the National Hockey League. We touched on hockey a little

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Speaker 5: bit in the first segment with the Olympics, but the

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01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 5: first outdoor game in Tampa was played last night. Had

1201
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 5: a little bit of a barn burner on our hands.

1202
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 5: The Lightning beat the Bruins six to five in a

1203
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 5: shootout in one of the most atrocious uniform matchups I've

1204
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 5: ever seen. Bruins were leading five to one, and we

1205
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 5: also had the best thing in sports here you go.

1206
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 5: Courtesy of Dave Michigan and Phil Esposito from the Lightning

1207
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 5: Audio Network mashed some clips together with Sean McDonough Ray

1208
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 5: Ferraro from the ESPN broadcast. Here's what you missed last night,

1209
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 5: six thirty puck.

1210
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 2: Drop, bootov Angeles, center point, tease it up, shoot, save Swayan.

1211
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 2: He hasn't underneath them. And now the Lightning, Oh, what

1212
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 2: the heck is that swimming?

1213
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 4: Swayman went one of the Lightning players went for a

1214
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 4: job and he hit him with a blocker.

1215
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was Hegel.

1216
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 4: Vassilevski's coming out across it here, rid o Ice, Swamon

1217
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 4: and Vassolevski may go and swaming and vassal lefk, you're

1218
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 4: gonna fight. Unbelievable They escaped this in fight, Swimon and

1219
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 4: Vassilevski throwing punches. Wow, and Vassilevski got in a couple

1220
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 4: of punches on Swaymen.

1221
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 7: I didn't know Lavasi was a lefty. Vassilevski starts with

1222
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 7: the left. Swayman's gonna finish with the right. Won't want

1223
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 7: for fighting it.

1224
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 2: He came to protect Brandon Hegel. Vass has got a

1225
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 2: little smile on his face. Well to not to our game?

1226
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: Why not?

1227
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 2: So the goaltenders fought, Yes, they sure did, And this

1228
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 2: is twice in a couple of weeks that they've done it.

1229
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 2: We had one Florida Panthers Bobrovski who's been and the

1230
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 2: Sharks is Nadelkavitch. Yep, yeah that a couple of weeks ago.

1231
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,479
Speaker 2: I've said this, this is like if you put little

1232
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 2: kids in sumo outfits because they just can't reach, you know.

1233
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,919
Speaker 2: So it's just it's just funny. And they were laughing

1234
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 2: about it afterwards. I think that this is the NHL.

1235
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 2: The boys watched this for a couple of minutes last

1236
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 2: night and it really works. It just looks cool to

1237
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 2: see seventy thousand people outdoor playing hockey. What is the

1238
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 2: NFL equivalent of that? What would be the NF I

1239
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 2: don't know that there is. I mean, Lambo's probably the closest.

1240
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 2: But I suppose maybe playing an NFL game at like

1241
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 2: an iconic college stadium. It would never happen, but like,

1242
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 2: that's probably the closest. Because baseball goes and plays the

1243
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 2: field of dreams game, you get these outdoor games for hockey.

1244
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like the Browns and Bengals playing at

1245
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 5: Ohio State Stadium.

1246
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 2: They would never give a regular season game for them.

1247
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 2: But it would be cool. Yeah, you know if you

1248
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 2: got one hundred and eight thousand in there for that,

1249
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 2: or the Eagles and Steelers in Happy Valley, which by

1250
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 2: the way, they had an outdoor hockey game.

1251
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 5: They sure, Yeah, Penn State and Michigan State. That was

1252
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 5: great turnout. Look great an iconic shot at Gav McKenna,

1253
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 5: who's probably gonna be the first overall pick in this

1254
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 5: year's any til dress.

1255
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Take you to the Association the cat real quick. Ye,

1256
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 2: before we get there real quick? On this hiking game?

1257
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 3: Is this the one that the Bruins showed up in

1258
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 3: like dressed like Revolutionary War patriots?

1259
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 2: Ye, they did. And Creamsicle year they were full cream sickles.

1260
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 2: And then, for reasons beyond anything I can understand, the

1261
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 2: coaches for the Lightning were dressed like gangsters. Oh I

1262
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 2: didn't see this like al Capone sort of, I mean

1263
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 2: kind of a little bit like Tony Montana, which I

1264
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,959
Speaker 2: thought was interesting because it was like google John Cooper

1265
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 2: Lightning coach attire and and just look at what he's

1266
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 2: and you tell me what you think he was going

1267
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 2: for here, because I don't. I couldn't make it out.

1268
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell what he was going for, like a

1269
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 2: Miami leisure suit. Yeah, with like the collar outside I

1270
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 2: mean jacket tony Tony Montana.

1271
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 5: Right.

1272
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 2: But the problem is that's Miami, Like this is Tampa. Yeah,

1273
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 2: if you've not been to Florida, there isn't much similar

1274
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 2: between Tampa and Miami, except both are on the water.

1275
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 3: He's saying, Uh, Tampa Lightning coach dressed toom press the

1276
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 3: Rooman didn't saying for the team's matchup against the Bruins,

1277
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 3: paying homage to the local Cuban theme of Tampa.

1278
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 2: Hmmm, see I think Cuban. I'd think Miami. Well yeah, yeah,

1279
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 2: I don't remember Tampa a lot. I didn't. It doesn't

1280
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 2: feel like no, I said.

1281
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 3: It's a tip of the cap, no pun intend to

1282
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 3: the heritage in Tampa, our staff. We've been known to

1283
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 3: hit Ebor city a little bit, smoke some cigars as

1284
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 3: a little staff outing. We thought it was Apropota kind

1285
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 3: of go down that road, and then it grew grew

1286
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 3: into gold chains and canes and rings. It doesn't even

1287
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 3: come around very often. It was uh, it was a

1288
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 3: part of it. It was a ton of fun. Tampa's

1289
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 3: known for having a strong Cuban community Ybor City in Tampa,

1290
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 3: one of the first major Cuban hubs in United States

1291
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 3: team with the late eighteen hundreds.

1292
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 2: Well, there you go. Then I learned something there there.

1293
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 2: You been to Ebor City a lot, but I'm not Yeah, sure,

1294
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 2: did not realize. Did not realize.

1295
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 5: CALVS made a trade in the NBA. They got Dennis

1296
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 5: Schroeder and Kean Ellis from the Kings in exchange for

1297
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 5: DeAndre Hunter. Dario sarch In two Seconds were also involved

1298
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 5: in that going to the Bulls three team trade. Mike

1299
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 5: salaries work, CALVS trying to get into the second apron

1300
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 5: maybe for.

1301
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 2: Yiannis out that the goobo so does that if they

1302
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 2: were to acquire Yannis and it was I assume Mobley

1303
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 2: goes the other way, he would have to. I would think,

1304
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 2: I mean, like, I don't follow the association like I

1305
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 2: used to, So maybe maybe I'm missing something here, You're

1306
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 2: not that I would assume that they would want Okay, keV.

1307
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 2: I would assume that they would want Mobley in return,

1308
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:31,479
Speaker 2: like does Janie and Donovan Mitchell? And then would Jared

1309
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 2: Allen stay too? keV? Is that kind of the thinking?

1310
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, But I mean they would probably ask for Jalen

1311
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 8: Tyson too, who is probably the most improved player in

1312
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 8: the entire NBA this year. They would, you know, probably

1313
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 8: ask for that piece and a couple other things and

1314
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 8: a lot of draft picks as well. And so the

1315
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 8: Cavs are probably on like the fringe of this interest.

1316
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 8: If they can get themselves in better standing in the NBA,

1317
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 8: it's more likely going to be someone like the Warriors

1318
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 8: that are going to get Yannis before the trade deadline

1319
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 8: or buy the trade deadline on Thursday.

1320
01:05:58,120 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 2: So of course, so this is the trade.

1321
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 3: That's an ESPN that they like, think that all the

1322
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 3: potential trades out there, So here are the trades that

1323
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 3: they have, so they have Warriors would get Jannis and

1324
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 3: Miles Turner. Bucks would get Jimmy Butler who's out for

1325
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 3: the year, Jonathan kaminga pad Zemeski who my dad would

1326
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,479
Speaker 3: be so mad about, a twenty twenty six first rounder,

1327
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 3: a twenty twenty eight first rounder, a twenty thirty first rounder,

1328
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 3: it picks one through twenty, a twenty thirty one first

1329
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 3: round swap, and a twenty thirty two first round pick.

1330
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 3: You can trade that many first round picks.

1331
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 2: In the NBA.

1332
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't trade picks in consecutive years, but if

1333
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 5: they're pickswaps, you can.

1334
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 2: I think that's my rule.

1335
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 3: Well, it's twenty six, twenty eight, thirty thirty one's a swap,

1336
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 3: thirty two is a first round pick, so that would

1337
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 3: be and they think that this is a chance that

1338
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 3: this they get five first round picks in return. Then

1339
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:50,439
Speaker 3: they've got Giannis to the Knicks and Karl Anthony Towns

1340
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 3: to the Blazerer's In a three team blockbuster, the Knicks

1341
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 3: would get Giannis and Drew Holliday, Blazers get Towns, Bridges

1342
01:06:56,320 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 3: and McBride. Bucks get Jeremy Graham, Feble and Yabusele. Yes,

1343
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 3: then they would get a twenty six.

1344
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 2: First rounder, a twenty nine first rounder swap, blah blah

1345
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 2: blah blah, all kinds of stuff.

1346
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 3: The Heat would get Giannis in return for Tyler Hero,

1347
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 3: Terry Rozier, khalil Ware, a twenty nine first round swap,

1348
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 3: twenty thirty swap rights, and a twenty thirty one first

1349
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 3: Timberwolves get Jannis Thanis and Gary Trent Junior for R. J. Barrett,

1350
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 3: Joan Bearringer, Rob Dillingham, Julius Randall, Terrence Shannon Junior and

1351
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 3: then one two first round picks, two first round swaps,

1352
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 3: and three second round picks.

1353
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 2: Hey, this is absurd. NBA trades are so so.

1354
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 3: For Rafts would get Cole Anthony and Jaden McDaniels in

1355
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 3: that that sounds crazy, And then Philly gets Yiannis for

1356
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 3: Paul George VJ. Edgecombe, who I guess is pretty good, right, Yeah,

1357
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 3: twenty twenty eight first and a twenty thirty first. The

1358
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 3: Calves trade they have laid out would be the Calves

1359
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 3: get Jannis and Thanis the Arthanasis I call.

1360
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 2: Him, you might as well be thanus.

1361
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, the Bucks would get Lonzo Ball, Evan Mobley,

1362
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 3: Jalen Wilson, and the Calves twenty thirty one first round pick.

1363
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 3: The Nets would get Max Struce and a twenty thirty

1364
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 3: swap and a twenty thirty two swap with the Calves.

1365
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 2: So, I guess what I'm curious about is like if

1366
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 2: the Calves were to acquire Yannis, can they win the championship?

1367
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 5: Like?

1368
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 2: Are you still beating Okac Denver Spurs? If you got there?

1369
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 5: I mean you got to sacrifice a lot of depth

1370
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:28,560
Speaker 5: to make a trade, like that happen and that was

1371
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 5: their problem last year.

1372
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 2: It goes to my you know, one of the things

1373
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,759
Speaker 2: that you talk about a lot, like are you entitled

1374
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 2: to championships as a sports fan or are you entitled

1375
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 2: to a bunch of bites at the Apple and an

1376
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 2: ownership group that is willing to try, try, try and

1377
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 2: do everything in their power to do so. So, you know,

1378
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 2: if you do a deal like this, is Yiannis thirty?

1379
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 2: I assume he's around thirty now probably, Yeah, So like

1380
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 2: how much does he have left in the tank? How

1381
01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 2: long does he stay at an elite level? He's an

1382
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 2: elite level now, Like does he stay there? And does

1383
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:03,560
Speaker 2: Giannis on this team make you the best team in

1384
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 2: the East? Does it make you the best team? Does

1385
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 2: it make you a team that can go head to

1386
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 2: head against OKC and try to contend for a championship?

1387
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 2: I mean that's kind of the If they answer to

1388
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 2: that is yes, then I think you do everything you

1389
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 2: can to do it. Like if you put him on

1390
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 2: Golden State, I still don't know that that gets them

1391
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 2: to Oka See. Yeah, I mean that depth of talent

1392
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 2: at okay See is just stupefying. Yes, and you still

1393
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 2: got to deal with Thunder, you got to deal with Joker,

1394
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 2: and you got to deal with Wemby and all that

1395
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 2: stuff down there. Let alone you got the Lakers, and

1396
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 2: that's a pretty tough in a series dealing with Luca

1397
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 2: in that situation. I'm sure they'll be players at the

1398
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 2: deadline too. So there's a lot going on here. You

1399
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 2: mentioned Luca.

1400
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 5: Today's the one year anniversary of the now infamous Luka

1401
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 5: Doncics trade, the one that Sham's had to tell us, Yes,

1402
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 5: this is real. So where would you rank this now

1403
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 5: on your worst trades at all time power rankers.

1404
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 2: I'm not conspiracy bo I'm not. I don't believe in

1405
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 2: conspira theory. I think a lot of it's utter nonsense

1406
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 2: going down to Cooper Flag route here, but I think

1407
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 2: we're going down to Cooper Flag route. I just see

1408
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 2: no scenario how this isn't do this deal to Los Angeles,

1409
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 2: open him up to nobody. Yeah, and we'll make sure

1410
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 2: you get Cooper Flagg. I just don't see anything else

1411
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 2: that makes sense. There's not another scenario on the planet

1412
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:23,560
Speaker 2: where one of the most untradable assets becomes traded and

1413
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 2: nobody knows about it. Nobody knew, like he reached out

1414
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 2: to one team and got back Anthony Davis who's always

1415
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 2: hurt and is hurt currently and and ex. But but

1416
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 2: they get Flagg Ye, who's who's a franchise dude, right,

1417
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 2: So like they I'm sure they wouldn't have gotten Cooper

1418
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 2: Flag had they still had Luka Dacic. So I guess

1419
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 2: you have to say, like, what which do you prefer,

1420
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 2: like if you have one or the other, Cooper Flag

1421
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 2: for the next ten years or Luca for the next

1422
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 2: sixe Pretty good, He's really dang good. So you know,

1423
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,839
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I this one is just screams

1424
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 2: conspiracy theory to me. I just see no scenario how

1425
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 2: anybody would do this in real life, all right, real quick.

1426
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 5: In the WWE, we had the Royal Rumble over the

1427
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 5: weekend Roman reigns and Lived Morgan where your respective winners.

1428
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 5: We also had a couple of lame matches in between.

1429
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 5: So zee, I pose this question to you, which title

1430
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 5: do you think Roman's gonna go for? The heavyweight against

1431
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 5: CM punk or the undisputed against Drew McIntyre at WrestleMania

1432
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 5: and viks.

1433
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 2: And they can change stuff too as well. Elimination Chamber.

1434
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:29,560
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1435
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 3: The Rumble was the most sun It was terrible. Triple

1436
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 3: aious book, Thank you, It's wrestling is it's so bad

1437
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 3: right now? So what is he failing at creating any

1438
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,759
Speaker 3: new stars? Roman Reigns went on McAfee's show right before

1439
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:45,639
Speaker 3: the Rumble, was like, I went away for two years

1440
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 3: basically to see if they could elevate any of these

1441
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 3: new guys could take over. He's like, basically, the creative

1442
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 3: has sucked. Nobody stepped up, and so I'm gonna have

1443
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 3: to come back and you know, be the guy again.

1444
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 3: And so he's coming back and wins. The Rumble and

1445
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 3: Rumbles terribly, was awful, and it took place in Saudi Arabia.

1446
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 3: They clearly don't watch the product. So like the things

1447
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 3: that should have gotten reactions got no reactions. There are

1448
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 3: a few people that got, you know, decent pops, like

1449
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 3: the Mega megastars, but for the most.

1450
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 2: Part, it was just it was it was awful. It

1451
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 2: was terrible.

1452
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 5: That stadium made it look like no one was there too.

1453
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:19,719
Speaker 5: With the lights that they had in those seats.

1454
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 3: There weren't many people there even Yeah, there weren't that

1455
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 3: many people there no WrestleMania from there.

1456
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 2: I think is going to be a complete disaster. They're

1457
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 2: doing a WrestleMania there, yeah, this year, next year, next year.

1458
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 3: I wonder if they will because this year's WrestleMania was

1459
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 3: supposed to be in New Orleans. Yeah, and they stole

1460
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 3: that back to Vegas, so they could obviously change their minds.

1461
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 2: I think it would behoove them to do so. All right,

1462
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 2: here's what I don't understand, and I acknowledge that I

1463
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 2: follow this very little. When you mentioned that the titles,

1464
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:53,679
Speaker 2: he's going, where's Cody Rhodes and all this title holders?

1465
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 2: A titleholder? Who Drew McIntyre. When did that happen? Sent

1466
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 2: Drew Beckxnar's good. I never heard of him. He's good,

1467
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 2: He's good. I mean, it was like a big deal

1468
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 2: when won it, right, But that was.

1469
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 3: They wrestled in the main event, Cody and Roman in

1470
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,680
Speaker 3: the main event in LA. Then they wrestle in the

1471
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 3: main event in Philly, and then they wrestle in the

1472
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 3: main event again or was in Philly when he got

1473
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 3: it done?

1474
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 2: Got done?

1475
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 3: It's like two years ago. You can't do that, I mean,

1476
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 3: unless it's stone cold in the rock and business is

1477
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 3: on fire. It's a little bit different, and I think

1478
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 3: since they've been bought by TKO, the things that they prioritize.

1479
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 2: Are not what they used to.

1480
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 3: I think that Unreal show is terrible as somebody who

1481
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 3: loved wrestling and still does, but that show reveals way

1482
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 3: too much, and honestly, I think exposes the incompetence of

1483
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,640
Speaker 3: the people that when you know something is predetermined and

1484
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 3: then you realize how incomptent the people are that are

1485
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 3: making those predeterminations, you're like, yeah, well that's not great.

1486
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 3: And everything is priced like completely insane. You know, One

1487
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 3: thing vincick Man did and not talking about him as

1488
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Speaker 3: the person of those allegations, one thing he did well

1489
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 3: is he always wanted kid families to be able to

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01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 3: bring their kids to the shows, and so pricing was

1491
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 3: kept you know, reasonable. You know, I think now to go,

1492
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 3: I was lucky enough I sat ringside within the first

1493
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 3: two rows at twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven, twenty

1494
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 3: eight at those four WrestleManias. I think to go to

1495
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 3: one night of WrestleMania in a seat that I went

1496
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 3: to for those four would be ten acts of what

1497
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 3: all four of those cost me combined.

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01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 2: Really. Oh yeah, it's just gotten out of control, completely

1499
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 2: out of control. Wow, But don't worry. A new era

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01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 2: starts tonight.

1501
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 3: Well, Triple H says that every time I double and

1502
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 3: he also has people wearing black hoodies do everything that

1503
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 3: they don't yes the same out.

1504
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 2: It's it's just so it's terrible.

1505
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 3: It really is the best. It's really really it's really bad.

1506
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 3: I watch Rumble and I'm like, this is what a

1507
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 3: waste of my time?

1508
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 2: Most terrible. Yeah, here's your weekend. All right, there you go,

1509
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 2: Good job at you g man on that side of things.

1510
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 2: We were our defensive setup. Come up next. You listen

1511
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 2: to Cleveland Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. You're

1512
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:14,599
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1513
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:18,639
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Speaker 2: of your Cleveland Browns. Please bet responsibly, all right. Early

1515
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 2: on the program, we talked about the state of the

1516
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 2: offense a couple of weeks outside the combine. The defense

1517
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 2: far fewer questions. This is a super Bowl caliber defense.

1518
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 2: It is a defense that has been coordinated by Jim Schwartz.

1519
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:54,799
Speaker 2: We hope it continues to be coordinated by Jim Schwartz.

1520
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:56,640
Speaker 2: Hopeful that we have an answer on that in the

1521
01:15:56,680 --> 01:16:00,080
Speaker 2: next day or so. Fourth in total defense, fourteenth in

1522
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,680
Speaker 2: scoring defense, two Pro Bowlers and one first team All Pro.

1523
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 2: That is Miles Garrett. You're presumed defensive player of the year.

1524
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 2: The defense doesn't have many questions. It's it's pretty well

1525
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 2: put together.

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01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 3: My friend, no, and I think what's you know, what's

1527
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 3: cool about this defense that if you were going to

1528
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 3: look at it and say, you know, what are the

1529
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 3: biggest questions right here? Is you know, I'm going to

1530
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 3: start with some free agents that I think absolutely need

1531
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 3: to be back. Devin Bush needs to be back. M

1532
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 3: j Emerson needs to be back. Ronnie Hickman needs to

1533
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 3: be back. Shelby Harris I think is absolutely worth bringing

1534
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 3: back for what he brought to you. And then you

1535
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 3: got Baker diabate Ration. I mean, all these guys honestly

1536
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 3: could be back. But yeah, as you kind of look

1537
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 3: at you know, we said on the offensive side, if

1538
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 3: we were sitting here today that it's you know, ten,

1539
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 3: ten to fourteen guys that weren't on the team last

1540
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 3: year are going to need to be on the team

1541
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 3: this year.

1542
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 2: At defense, it's nowhere near that.

1543
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,599
Speaker 3: At defensive end, you've got my You've got Alex Wright,

1544
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 3: and you've got Isaiah McGuire.

1545
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 2: I'm talking like lock locks.

1546
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:06,640
Speaker 3: Well, now all right, Then you got Mason Graham, you

1547
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 3: got Mike Hall, Malie Collins, and then you know, I

1548
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 3: think they like Aiden Huntington a lot. One surprised me

1549
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 3: see him, Shelby Harris. I mean, you could run that

1550
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 3: room right back linebacker Carson Swessinger for sure. You know,

1551
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 3: I want to see Devin Bush back. But I think

1552
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,919
Speaker 3: Devin Bush played himself into a big contract.

1553
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 2: What a cool story.

1554
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 3: That was incredible story, and I think, you know, hopefully

1555
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 3: you can work it out. I've seen him here. I

1556
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 3: know he's working out here. I know he wants to

1557
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 3: be here. I know Tarv wants him to be here.

1558
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:42,640
Speaker 3: I know I think everybody wants him to be here.

1559
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 3: It's just to be a matter of you know, that's

1560
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:45,600
Speaker 3: one where I think you're gonna have to go to

1561
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 3: the combine. His agent's going to get a sense of

1562
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 3: the market and then see if we can play in

1563
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 3: that market. He might be north of ten million a year. Yeah,

1564
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 3: and he's earned it. You know we played he played

1565
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 3: great this year. So that's a room that might have

1566
01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 3: some turnover in it, just because you know, he Baker

1567
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 3: and Diabate are are free agents. But then you have

1568
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 3: guys like you have Bookie Watson, you have Easton Moscarinis Arnold,

1569
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 3: you have Winston Reid. You have a lot of guys

1570
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 3: that they like. So that's a room that could still

1571
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 3: be filled out. Cornerback you've got Denzel, you have Tyson Campbell.

1572
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hope mj Emerson is back, and Miles Harden.

1573
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 3: I mean, so I think you're forward there, yep. And

1574
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 3: then the safety room you've got Grant Ronnie Hickman. I

1575
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 3: know he's listed as a free agent, and he is,

1576
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 3: but he is because he was an undrafted free agent.

1577
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 3: This is true of Ronnie Hickman. This is also true

1578
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 3: of I want to say of Diabate. They are restricted

1579
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 3: free agents. So that means that basically, if they were

1580
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 3: to go somewhere else, the Browns would be compensated, and

1581
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:44,799
Speaker 3: the Browns can match anything and whatever they need basically

1582
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 3: to make sure that those people stay here if that's

1583
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 3: if that's our goal, they will be here. So while

1584
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 3: they are free agents, they're not really free agents. So

1585
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 3: I would expect like Diabat would be back in the

1586
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 3: linebacker room. I'll put him in as an automatic, and

1587
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 3: I think Ronnie Hickman is an automatic to be back

1588
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 3: as well in that safety room. So if you look

1589
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 3: at it that way, this is just like automatic justs

1590
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 3: locks is three, six ten, fourteen, sixteen, eight eighteen.

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01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're and there's still another handful that

1592
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 2: is probable that are probable. Absolutely, yeah, So this you

1593
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,759
Speaker 2: really shouldn't have to address this much other than plugging

1594
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 2: a few holes here or there. Right.

1595
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 3: I mean, you're starting lineup right now today, could be

1596
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 3: Miles and Alex Wright at the ends, Mason Graham and maliek.

1597
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 3: Collins in the middle, Carson Swessinger, and you could do

1598
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 3: Diabate or if we signed Devin Bush obviously devn Bush

1599
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:42,959
Speaker 3: run that back. Your corners would be Denzel, Ward Campbell,

1600
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:46,679
Speaker 3: you know, MJ or Hardin. I guess right now, maybe

1601
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 3: sign another corner, and then your safety is would be

1602
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 3: Grant and Ronnie. I mean it's it's kind of like

1603
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 3: your same starters are back, which is good.

1604
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and potentially the same coaching staff is back. I

1605
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 2: would like it would be you know, we'll see I

1606
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 2: would think so yes. When you know, you think about

1607
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 2: the year that Carson Swessinger had and it was so

1608
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,599
Speaker 2: odd for at the time when you think about drafting

1609
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 2: a defensive tackle and an off ball linebacker with your

1610
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 2: first two picks. Mason Graham obviously went very, very high

1611
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 2: Carson Swetshier the top of the second round, and candidly,

1612
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 2: we weren't talking about certainly that position. Mason Graham I

1613
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:26,679
Speaker 2: think by the time he got to the draft made

1614
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 2: some sense. There were some elite prospects that felt like

1615
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:29,759
Speaker 2: they were different than other players.

1616
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 1: He was among them.

1617
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 2: And that's the one. The way that that one went.

1618
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 2: But Swessinger validating that the way that he did and

1619
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 2: looking like a cornerstone of this defense for the next

1620
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:42,640
Speaker 2: fifteen years here was really remarkable. And honestly, Buddy, with

1621
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 2: the loss of j Okay necessary and Hicks retiring and

1622
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 2: Hicks retiring, yeah, he had to. He had to.

1623
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 3: And he had sixteen games, one hundred and fifty six tackles,

1624
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 3: eleven tackles for a lost, nine quarterback hits, two picks,

1625
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 3: three passes defense, two and a half sacks, Defensive Rookie

1626
01:20:57,840 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 3: of the Year for the Pro Football Riders of a Maria,

1627
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 3: and I think he will be the AP Defensive Rookie

1628
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 3: of the Year this weekend and certainly deserves to be.

1629
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 3: We should have the defensive Rookie of the Year and

1630
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 3: the defensive Player of the Year, which is would be

1631
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:12,599
Speaker 3: the third time on the same team. We've gotten Lawrence Taylor,

1632
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 3: who did was both for the Giants, and then I

1633
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 3: think we had a Terrell Suggs ray Lewis I believe

1634
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 3: you have that right, which was one that had never

1635
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 3: made it somehow into the parlance of anybody's time until

1636
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 3: it actually did happen. So in two thousand and three

1637
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 3: he was the AP Defensive Rookie of the Year, and

1638
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 3: I'm guessing ray.

1639
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 2: Lewis Suggs and then Lewis was the defensive player of

1640
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 2: the year. I believe that's right. He was the let's

1641
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 2: see two thousand and three defensive Player of the year. Yep.

1642
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 2: So that's the only other time. What did you see

1643
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 2: from Mason Graham as the season went along? He was good.

1644
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 2: He just did not have the production in the you know,

1645
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 2: the eye popping stats that you wanted.

1646
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 3: But if you get into some of kind of the

1647
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:00,680
Speaker 3: you know, more advanced numbers, it was good, but I

1648
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 3: think people you when you're the fifth overall pick, I

1649
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 3: think people need to see those those numbers, and they

1650
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 3: need to see the sacks and the tackles for loss

1651
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 3: and the quarterback hits in all of it. So he

1652
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:17,600
Speaker 3: finished the season with half a sack, seven tackles for

1653
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 3: a loss, four quarterback hits, four passes defense, which you know,

1654
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:23,679
Speaker 3: there are a lot of people that had more production

1655
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 3: than that. But when you kind of look at it

1656
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 3: and take a step back and you look, you know,

1657
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 3: interior defensive linemen. And again, this is this is Pro

1658
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 3: Football Focus. This is not you know, this is not

1659
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 3: the end all be all, certainly, but it's something that

1660
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 3: you can get directional where one place is actually trying

1661
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 3: to compare everybody across the league in certain categories. And

1662
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 3: you know, I think that he shows up better there

1663
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:49,680
Speaker 3: than maybe he showed up necessarily on certain things. Now

1664
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 3: what's wild is and this is you're going to laugh

1665
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 3: at this, but two of the top fifteen guys at

1666
01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 3: Pro Football Focus this year defensive tackles, two of the

1667
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 3: time fifteen.

1668
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 2: Were former Cleveland Browns. Number nine.

1669
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 3: Tommy TOGII, Yeah, really drafted here. What a year he had,

1670
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 3: number fifteen, Juwan Briggs now Malie Collins checked in at

1671
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 3: number twelve. Mason Graham checked in at twenty nine. So

1672
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 3: if they're thirty two teams, being twenty ninth still puts

1673
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 3: you in. You know, you're would be the number one

1674
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 3: guy on one of the teams. I think we need

1675
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 3: to see more from Mason Graham. I do think that

1676
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 3: there was definite He was definitely disruptive, There's no doubt

1677
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 3: about that. And as the season went on, you certainly

1678
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 3: saw flashes of what you hope that he can become

1679
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 3: on a consistent basis. But there's still definitely room to

1680
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:45,600
Speaker 3: improve there. He was forty second in pass rush productivity

1681
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 3: in terms of defensive tackles interior defensive lineman last year,

1682
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:55,600
Speaker 3: so good, but I think at fifth overall and that

1683
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 3: investment and knowing what else was out there, Yeah, with

1684
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 3: glaring needs like a Teed McMillan, I think that, you know,

1685
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 3: Mason Graham is a guy that showed flashes and we

1686
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 3: need to see it now.

1687
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 2: We need to see like a.

1688
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 3: Big leap in year two, a big leap in year two,

1689
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 3: because you know, Malie Collins was on his way to

1690
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 3: having a Pro Bowl, All Pro season. Yes, And the

1691
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 3: part of it, to be fair, is that there's only

1692
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 3: so much to go around, right, So when you look at,

1693
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 3: you know, what Malie Collins was doing, Malie Collins had

1694
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 3: six and a half sacks in twelve games. You look

1695
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 3: at what Miles was doing, and by the way, Miles

1696
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 3: garrett sacks went down significantly when Malie Collins went out.

1697
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 2: So MALIEK.

1698
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 3: Collins was, he did a lot of work, was everything

1699
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 3: you could have hoped and was one of the absolute

1700
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 3: best signings of the season. But Malie Collins, and this

1701
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 3: is to me is kind of one of those fascinating things.

1702
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 3: But how and it just shows how it all works

1703
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 3: in concert.

1704
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter.

1705
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 3: Somebody can be singularly great, which Miles Garrett is, but

1706
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 3: when you have somebody who is disruptive in the way

1707
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 3: that MALIEK.

1708
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 2: Collins was, it matters.

1709
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 3: So Malee Collins gets hurt in the game against the Niners. Okay,

1710
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett, through the Niners game, he finished with what

1711
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three? He finished with yeah, twenty three, twenty three,

1712
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 3: So through the Niners game, including that game when Malik

1713
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 3: did play, which was his last one.

1714
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:22,679
Speaker 2: He had.

1715
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 3: Nineteen sacks through that game, which was game twelve, nineteen

1716
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 3: and twelve, and then he had four in the final five.

1717
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 2: So those things matter.

1718
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 3: Now, Mason was there, and so you need Mason Graham

1719
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 3: and Mike Hall both need to really take leaps forward.

1720
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought Mike was going to have a massive well.

1721
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 3: He was slow to come back from the injury, but

1722
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:51,559
Speaker 3: in nine games he had one and a half sacks

1723
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 3: and really unfortunately did not have the kind of impact

1724
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 3: that you would have wanted. And now, if you're looking

1725
01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 3: at a full season, which is what now is two

1726
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 3: years of the league, are seventeen games now two and

1727
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 3: a half sacks, five tackles for lost, ten quarterback hits

1728
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 3: more productive than Mason over the seventeen games. Yeah, but

1729
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 3: both of those guys need to take big leaps forward.

1730
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:12,719
Speaker 3: And if they do and you all of a sudden

1731
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 3: have three guys on the interior that can really get

1732
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 3: after it, we've got a shot.

1733
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think you know when you take somebody

1734
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 2: fifth overall, there's an added pressure under Promps with that,

1735
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 2: and everybody understood that. And if you just compare you know,

1736
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 2: Mason to like even Jalen Carter. He's a big time

1737
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 2: defensive tackle now in his third year in the league.

1738
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:34,600
Speaker 2: You know, Jalen year one six sacks, four and a

1739
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,600
Speaker 2: half in year two three and year three tackles for

1740
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 2: loss eight twelve, five quarterbacks, hits nine sixteen twelve the

1741
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 2: last numbers because he only played eleven games last season,

1742
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 2: but in the first two he played sixteen games, and

1743
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 2: that's where you see that type of production. So that's

1744
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,599
Speaker 2: that was something that there were signs that Mason turned

1745
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:55,599
Speaker 2: the corner and got better as the season went along.

1746
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 2: But just in terms of measurables there, you probably need

1747
01:26:58,560 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 2: a little bit more out of your fifth round pick.

1748
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like for example, you know, Derek Harmon, who the

1749
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 3: Steelers drafted on the interior picked twenty one, in twelve games,

1750
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 3: had three secks. You know, Yeah, there were guys that

1751
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 3: were more productive and so it's on him to come

1752
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:18,720
Speaker 3: back this year and do it.

1753
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 8: Now.

1754
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 3: The guy that you know, James Pierce, who is a

1755
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 3: twenty six overall pick, defensive end completely imposition at Tennessee,

1756
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 3: but he led all the rookies with ten and a

1757
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 3: half secks.

1758
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 2: But yeah, you've got to be.

1759
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 3: I think if you're looking at this from Mason sandpoint,

1760
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 3: we're talking about next year being a big jump forward,

1761
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 3: it's gonna it just has to be. It has to

1762
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:40,799
Speaker 3: be a big, big jump forward. And hopefully that's exactly

1763
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 3: what it is.

1764
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it like do you I mean, obviously you're going

1765
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 2: to be relying upon your board and where guys are ranked,

1766
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 2: but like, if you go through the entire draft, do

1767
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 2: you need to address this side of the ball unless

1768
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 2: somebody falls into your lap. Like to me when we

1769
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 2: just did this exercise, it's so illuminating how many holes

1770
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 2: there are on offense, Like you can run out of

1771
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 2: defense right now.

1772
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 3: It's depth. Your first three picks have got to be

1773
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 3: I mean, I think your first three picks. But then

1774
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 3: you know, we wanted all weapons last year. And by

1775
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 3: the way, if you kind of went back and the

1776
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 3: Carson Swetzinger would be a big void, massive so you

1777
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 3: wouldn't be able to replace him, but you know you could,

1778
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 3: it could look different. I think if you look at

1779
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 3: the Browns draft picks for twenty twenty six, we've got.

1780
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 2: Six, twenty four and thirty nine or the first three

1781
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 2: I believe.

1782
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 3: Yep, so you got six twenty four, thirty nine, you

1783
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 3: got a third or fourth, a fifth, you got three fifths,

1784
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 3: a sixth and a seventh. So you got a two ones,

1785
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 3: a second, a third, or four, three fifths, a six

1786
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 3: and a seventh as of now, Like, I kind of

1787
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 3: think your first four picks all need to be offense,

1788
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,680
Speaker 3: I would agree, yeah, and then you can get and

1789
01:28:57,800 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 3: it might be three offensive lineman.

1790
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 2: I mean he might be Unfortunately, it might have to be. Yeah.

1791
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:04,560
Speaker 2: We went through those numbers and you, I mean, you

1792
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 2: need a bunch of bodies up front, and you need starters. Starters,

1793
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 2: any guys that yes can come in and play. I

1794
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 2: guess I haven't even looked at that in terms of

1795
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 2: free agency, Like who who are some guys? I mean,

1796
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 2: I think that's why you're gonna rely on I'm curious

1797
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 2: what Todd has to say about that. With Warhop, I'm

1798
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 2: guessing he's gonna rely on him a lot. It's it's

1799
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 2: kind of a little similar to the situation we had

1800
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 2: with Bill Callahan, where you know, you have a guy

1801
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 2: who'd been in the league a lot, and he takes

1802
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 2: somebody who maybe doesn't have the overall talent and has

1803
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:33,600
Speaker 2: him play up. That's probably what's going to have to

1804
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 2: happen with Warhop this year. There's probably guys that he likes.

1805
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:37,560
Speaker 2: You can run his system in the league, yep, and

1806
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 2: maybe you get a little bit of a discount on

1807
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:39,759
Speaker 2: That's what you're.

1808
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 3: Gonna have to hope because I think that's the only

1809
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 3: way that you can get everything you need. Like I said,

1810
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:47,600
Speaker 3: you get one receiver in here. And that's why I

1811
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 3: think it's really important for that guy to be at

1812
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 3: number six because I really think that that is you

1813
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:58,680
Speaker 3: want that guy to be a dude. I think you

1814
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 3: want that guy. That guy's got to be a dude

1815
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 3: that you're looking for a one.

1816
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need Ted McMillan and needs somebody like that.

1817
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 2: So hopefully that's why I think it's got to be

1818
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 2: at six. I think they're attacking farther down. And you know,

1819
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 2: we drafted a tackle tenth overall that did not work

1820
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 2: out very well for us. I don't think we've had

1821
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 2: a league right, Yeah, I don't think we've drafted a

1822
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 2: wide receiver early since Braylan Edwards, like top ten, who's

1823
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:27,600
Speaker 2: the kid out of Coleman, but he went he was

1824
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 2: sixteen sixteen, Yeah, it's been a while since we've since

1825
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 2: we've done that, Has it been Braylin? Is he the

1826
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 2: last one that was like a wide receiver that early?

1827
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:40,600
Speaker 2: Seems like it. Yeah, while you're looking that up. For

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Speaker 3: Corey Coleman was picked fifteen. I mean, yeah, it's I'm

1834
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 3: telling you it is.

1835
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:11,719
Speaker 2: It is. Barse Brailan would have been. He picked third overall.

1836
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 3: That's the last time those two thousand and five, So

1837
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 3: in twenty years we've not picked a wide receiver in

1838
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:16,680
Speaker 3: the top ten in.

1839
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 2: A league that is dominated by it. That's right, all right,

1840
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:21,800
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1841
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:25,439
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