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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephane

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Speaker 1: Never Told You production of I Heart Radio. And we're

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Speaker 1: It is brought to you by the new HBO Max

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Speaker 1: original series and just like that, a new chapter of

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Speaker 1: this episode, we're going to react to and discuss the

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Speaker 1: first two episodes of the series which we just watched,

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Speaker 1: which came out on HBO Max on December nine. Of

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Speaker 1: we did, we got to hang out in person and

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Speaker 1: watch them. There was a Cosmo had, Yes, it was

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Speaker 1: It was delightful. There were some tears, Yes, some expletives

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Speaker 1: series which is ongoing. It's a bit of a project

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Speaker 1: for us. I think this is gonna be really interesting,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get into that later. But that being said, um,

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Speaker 1: very different. Um, it felt like a very different thing,

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Speaker 1: spoilers if you want to come back later. Um. Also,

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Speaker 1: we were podcasting. Yes, yes, yes, okay, so you've heard

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Speaker 1: a brief recap. Sex in the City is an American

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Speaker 1: where it ran until two thousand four, So that's ninety

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Speaker 1: and written and directed sometimes by Michael Patrick King. Yes

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Speaker 1: for HBO, It's Said in New York City and stars

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Speaker 1: as they navigate relationships and sex um and has had

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Speaker 1: a huge lasting cultural impact. People still talk about you

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Speaker 1: Thank You author Samantha Irby, who will also serve as

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Speaker 1: her that she saw the most, or was there for

428
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: the most, or was there for her immediately, was Miranda.

429
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: So I found that weird when she wasn't the maid

430
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: of honor. But again I know that was actually a

431
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: lot to do with contracts in the air time. But

432
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: so having that fall apart did not seem surprising, and

433
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: with the fact that she dust in the flowers, I

434
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: thought that was a lovely touch. I thought that was

435
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: a nice sentiment of hey, we're not fixed, but I'm

436
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: thinking about you. So I think that was actually really

437
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: great way to have Samantha in that because they couldn't

438
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: just ignore as if it would have been real dirty,

439
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: if something that had not done anything at all, Knowing

440
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: that this is the love of her life and he

441
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: has gone. Um, I think one of the things that

442
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: I was really scared about. And yeah, I definitely had

443
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: to explain to you a majority of what was happening

444
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: because there was a lot of throwbacks to original seasons.

445
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: Several old school characters came back to play, which was lovely. Um.

446
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: Stanford's own relationship with Anthony kind of came back into view, like, Okay,

447
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: what's happening here? Yeah, seeing Lily and Rose was a

448
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: tiny baby when the last time I, because I did

449
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,479
Speaker 1: not watch all of the second movie, had seen her. Um,

450
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: and I love you know, her being whatever, whether it's

451
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: uh non binary or she wants to be you know,

452
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: just a tomboy or that's the thing for her or

453
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: what or just not wanting to be in that world

454
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: of posh style Rose. I like where they're going with that.

455
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be interesting, and I think

456
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: that opens it up for a lot. So, like, there's

457
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: a lot of throwbacks in the first two that I

458
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: really appreciated. I had to explain to you about the

459
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: shoes because I was like, that is pivotal to what

460
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: happened in the first movie. And that's kind of the

461
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: thing when Big and She did not get married, which

462
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: you don't know about. I know, I'm having all you uppeting.

463
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: Miranda was there for her immediately. And then when Miranda

464
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: and Steve had troubles, Carrie was there for her immediately.

465
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: So you have all of those kind of throwbacks in

466
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: these conversations. And yeah, also in a throwback, Lily seems

467
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: to be across in some of these plot points the

468
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: most to her poor thing. Yeah, that seemed to be

469
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,719
Speaker 1: a big takeaway in social media anyway. And I did

470
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: want to touch on this because Miranda in this season,

471
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: like it was incredibly awkward, incredibly awkward interactions and I know, Samantha,

472
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: those are very difficult for you to watch. And I

473
00:29:54,720 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: think it's interesting because it feels like, um, I think

474
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: you said, you know, it's like they're kind of picking

475
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: up like that nothing is totally fixed. They're not like

476
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: totally you know, suddenly woke feminist or something, but they

477
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: they're working on it or specifically Miranda and in this case,

478
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: you know, white feminism and being the white savior and

479
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: trying to not be that but then like stepping in

480
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: it every opportunity, um and trying to work through it.

481
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: But it is I yeah, I feel like there's definitely,

482
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: you know, some some moments where it's almost kind of

483
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: leaning into our conversation we had allow on Black Chrishnas

484
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: of like this is too Wow? Is this too on

485
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: the nose? Like is it too And but at the

486
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: same time, I'm like, yeah, this would be really awkward,

487
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: And you know, they're having these conversations and I think

488
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: like sometimes they were pretty clunky in the way they

489
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: handled it. But I do appreciate the that there like

490
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: trying to have those conversations, trying to examine the flaws

491
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: of these characters of the past and trying to kind

492
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: of clumb some me be better. But it is interesting

493
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: that it's likely Miranda, right. I think Miranda is the

494
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: one being thrown into that situation, though she's the only

495
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: one that's with the younger quote unquote crew. Although we

496
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: do once again see the newest character of LTW is

497
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: how Charlotte calls her at the beginning as if she

498
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: was like, uh, I don't know, prince or something. Apparently

499
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: she's very rich and very well known in society. Lisa

500
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: like the way they introduced her too was interesting. I

501
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: kind of like, okay, uh, we're trying to try and

502
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: change some things. I think the biggest question again, like, yes,

503
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: how much can you do in two episodes? And here

504
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: we are fumbling in in And what we don't realize

505
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: until later on is that Miranda is taking a chance

506
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: by quitting what she knew, which she was a partner

507
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: in law firm, she was making money and after feeling

508
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: a lot of things. And I think we can all

509
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: say during the time of the Women's March, people were

510
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: feeling things and trying to change things and wanting to

511
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: do things. And we can also say during the Women's March,

512
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: a lot of good intended people were exclusionary and not

513
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,719
Speaker 1: understanding of their privilege. And I think that's what Miranda

514
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: was representing. Maybe I'm reading into it because it also

515
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: did fit into the character of Miranda, which I already

516
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: told you, like, she is bossy, she's the first one

517
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: that's going to speak up even though she didn't have to.

518
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: So her telling someone that's so and so seet after

519
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: she'd been corrected is on point with our character. So

520
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: I think that is appropriate even in those stages of grief.

521
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: It was on point with each of those characters. And

522
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: I've already talked about that, the fact that you know,

523
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: we have Charlotte who is so over the top emotional

524
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: that Carrie had to care for her instead of the

525
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: other way around, and Miranda's automatically angry and she's going

526
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: to lash out because that's what she does, and that's

527
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: kind of their characters, uh, the entire time. So it

528
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: made sense. So people are like, why are they doing

529
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: this thing? And I did. I definitely saw a TikTok

530
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: video recently talking about how Sam got really raped over

531
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: the coals and doing the worst bits or worst plot lines,

532
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: and I was like, have you seen Miranda's character, Because

533
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: for the first three years, people just talked about how

534
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: awful she was because literally it sounded like she was

535
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: the boss bitch in a negative term. When in actuality.

536
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: We were all like, no, that's real. She's right, let's

537
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: just be real honest. And you know, to this day,

538
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: I'm like she she had the most realistic point of

539
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: view and standards, and I think it's okay, but yeah,

540
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: to me, like they all hit their characters as seen um,

541
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: and I did think it was interesting going back to

542
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: like Samantha being absent is a character in itself, and

543
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: I think they know that, yes, yes, for sure. And

544
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: there's one thing I was really curious about is how

545
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: they were going to handle like COVID, because they said

546
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: they would and it is shin but it's kind of

547
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: like implied that it's handled or something. But also, yeah,

548
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: like well what you said. They brought up current events,

549
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,959
Speaker 1: things that have happened recently within the past couple of years,

550
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: and how they have influenced these characters. And also I

551
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: think one of my favorite parts they did hit on.

552
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: I mean it's almost like there was like, dang, here's

553
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: your you love brunch for em when they did brunch,

554
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: They're doing bunch like but they had that supportive relationship.

555
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: But I also thought it was really interesting that they

556
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: did have kind of these I don't I don't want

557
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: to say conflicts, but just the nuances in their friendships,

558
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: because Carrie was like, I can't have Charlotte around because

559
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: she's too emotional and she's going to make it about

560
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 1: herself and having that conversation and kind of working through it.

561
00:34:55,600 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: But I do appreciate that we're seeing these difficult cults

562
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: and them kind of working on those difficulties. But those

563
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: do exist, especially if they've known each other that long. Yeah,

564
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: that was still my favorite part. I think my favorite

565
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: scene was in Miranda and carry were like right after

566
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: Big died and they were in the bed. It was

567
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: and I think that was again it also kind of

568
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: attest to the fact that they were friends from a

569
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: while ago and very supportive of each other even before

570
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: the actual show. And again, yeah, that three of them

571
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 1: are very much supportive of each other and these shows

572
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: and whatever their activities were. When Cynthia Nixon ran for

573
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: may or, they were all behind our one and twenty

574
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: thousand percent, and that they still are. I think it's interesting. Yeah,

575
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: they did try to keep that at the crux of

576
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: the show, and that's kind of the whole thing is

577
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: like everybody's piste off that Big is dead, and yeah,

578
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: that's significant because the entire show is based on her

579
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: finding love, which is a trope in itself, but and

580
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: she lost it. Now what do you do you? And

581
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: I wonder if it's just coming back around to that

582
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: centering of friendships and and sticking to the fact that, yeah,

583
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: it was it was the crew of them and holding

584
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: each other up. I mean, in the end of the

585
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: first movie, Big does say, I know that they are

586
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 1: the true loves of your life, meaning these ladies that's

587
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: been with her, and it is it's true for them,

588
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: and that's again one of the big things that it

589
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: made me love Sex in the City was that they

590
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: had fights, but they still loved each other um throughout

591
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: and it felt nice. It felt nice to see that

592
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: where they weren't necessarily backstabbing each other, they weren't cheating

593
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: with each other's mands. They were you know what I mean,

594
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: like not that that has to happen, And again, that

595
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: is very much stereotype, but that was perpetuated a lot.

596
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: And so to have a successful series that actually elevates

597
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: these friendships is a beautiful thing. And I think they

598
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: did a great job in bringing that back because they

599
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: do they are there for those key moments for each other.

600
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: Same way with Charlotte was going through not being able

601
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: to get pregnant and all of the heartbreaks of miscarriages,

602
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: like they were there for each other, which you have

603
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: not seen yet, but you will come upon accidental pregnancies,

604
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 1: like all of these things, whether or not to decide

605
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: to keep the fetus or not. Like all of these

606
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: conversations were huge and they were right there for each other.

607
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 1: And it makes sense that if this is their final hurrah,

608
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: that they would approach the death of their loved one

609
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: like this. And I think this kind of feels like, yeah,

610
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: we're closing it up. If this is what they're planning

611
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: to do. Maybe that's a prediction in itself, and this

612
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: must be a mini series. Maybe they're just testing the

613
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 1: water to see if they can make a third movie.

614
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, that it does come back

615
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: around in that love and support and again coming back

616
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: to we haven't seen Charlotte do too much yet, I

617
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 1: will say for her character, I truly believe it wasn't

618
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: even though like, yeah, oh, don't do this, don't make

619
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: her carry her your emotional labor, But the fact is

620
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: that she feels like it's her fault. She feels like

621
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: she did something wrong and that this is gonna in

622
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: their friendship, which maybe a part of the black line,

623
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: because it could have been miscommunication when Carrie was like,

624
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: I can't deal with all the emotions. But in Charlotte's head,

625
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: it's like, as you blame me, you're mad at me,

626
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: And it absolutely could have been a part of that,

627
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: you know, even even like partially, but then they were

628
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: able to break that down and and close it up

629
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: nicely and come together. I think that that is on

630
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: point with Charlotte's character, so the new writers have added

631
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: that on as who she is. Yes, this is exactly

632
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: I believe that reaction of Charlotte, because she's also the

633
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: one when Carrie announces her engagement to Big screamed in

634
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: the middle of the restaurant and announces to everyone to

635
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: the point that Carrie is some mortified, but like that's

636
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: her response. She's an emotional person and she agrees it

637
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: this way, and I think it makes perfect sense for

638
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: a character, and I get that. I don't think it

639
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: was a selfish intent, but it just happens to be.

640
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: You know, she's a pretty she's like, what do they

641
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 1: call her like a park princess essentially in the beginning

642
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: of the movies, because she she's a social hite princes

643
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: Us who is like a wasp, and and then converted

644
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: to Judaism to be with her husband. Like all of

645
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: these things, Annie, you and for a treat, giving a

646
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: lot of things. All these things are on point from

647
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: what I see the character and even Samantha's reaction, even

648
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: though of course we would have liked to see our

649
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: that's on point. I think the only one thing I

650
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: did not love Stanford's reaction because between the two of them,

651
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: Stanford is typically the one that does understand emotions more

652
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: than an Anthony is the blunt, over the top, just

653
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: blurted out guy. And they had this kind of switch,

654
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: and I was like, what that was different to me? Yeah, yeah,

655
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: that'll be interesting to see how that all plays out.

656
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: And I think one of the things we were talking

657
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: about is, you know, the original series felt very much

658
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: like a fantasy and kind of an aspirational fantasy element

659
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: of you know, we all kind of new there's no

660
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: way they could have afforded what the fashion they we're

661
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: wearing on what they were, the jobs they had, but

662
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: but we liked, you know, seeing it and suspending on disbelief,

663
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: whereas this one feels very much more like there's still

664
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: that Absolutely they're still fashion and stuff. I'm like, I'm

665
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: sure that costs more than my entire wardrobe. Shoes, It's

666
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: worth more than two months of our paycheck. Any the shoe.

667
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: I gassed aloud when I saw those shoes, And so

668
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: it feels kind of like jarring. I think of of

669
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: kind of a reality check, and especially we were talking

670
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 1: about how like, I don't think this was the intent,

671
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: but it's interesting that you know they're older and then

672
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: immediately someone dies from a heart attack kind of. And

673
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that because I did rewatch right

674
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: after we watched them to kind of get my thoughts

675
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: together for this, and I was thinking of the you

676
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: know when Carrie ends the episodes, but she doesn't have

677
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: a lot of um voiceover in these when she ends them,

678
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: and you know, it's and just like that both times,

679
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:08,479
Speaker 1: it's very sobering, it's very sad, it's abrupt, yes, yes, yes,

680
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: and very jarring. Yeah. So I think that's interesting, And

681
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that with the Little Black Dress.

682
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: The title of the second episode where it's clearly a

683
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: nod to to fashion, but also to you know, this

684
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: grief and trying to deal with that in your and

685
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: and move on. And I just touching on all this

686
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 1: different stuff, And I thought that was interesting because I

687
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: feel like it's kind of a nod too. A lot

688
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: of the things that were huge and key and made

689
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: the show what people loved about it, And part of

690
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: that was fashion, um, but also like you know, funeral, uh,

691
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: and trying to find that fashion for funeral. And there's

692
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: just so many things in there that were very very sad,

693
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: like when she's like in the closet, she hugs his

694
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: jackets and like smells them. Oh my gosh. Oh. There's

695
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: definitely a lot that seems very real. Because also we

696
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: were talking about the fact that, yeah, they did, she

697
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: did want that posh look for his funeral. Did not

698
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: want to go to what looked like again Uptown was

699
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: palacy type of funeral home. She wanted that black and

700
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: white where I was like that was like an art

701
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: space that was like and the fact that everybody was

702
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: in high fashion, including you know, I think we talked

703
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: about Missy von Muslin. I think it's her name. I

704
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: keeps anything wrong who comes in that has a full

705
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: on cape and you're like what, but she is an

706
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: heiress or she is very rich, so like this makes sense, okay.

707
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: But in then one of the other episodes, and I

708
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 1: told you a little bit about it, there's two which

709
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: deal with deaths and it's very like not comical but

710
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: kind of used as comic plotline. And one of them

711
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: is a designer who died and the entire audience is

712
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: made up of people wearing his collection, which has now

713
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: rippled in value like that, and then the other one

714
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: is a really sad funeral and everybody's bringing in dates.

715
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: But like there it was like all of Vogue editors

716
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: and these people like that. It's just like the upper

717
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: class of upper class of people. And she like comes

718
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: in and she sees a big old secretary who actually says,

719
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: you know, you look amazing. I love this outfit, and

720
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: she's more like I want to make him proud. She's like,

721
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: you did that, you did that in that essense of like, yeah,

722
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: he was absolutely all about style too, not that he cared,

723
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: but like he saw his suits like they are very

724
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: on point, all of the brand um. And also I

725
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: think again I had to be reminded because it's been

726
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: a menace as I've seen all of it. As we

727
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: were rewatching it. He did have a hard condition, so

728
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: it wasn't so off point, like it is not so

729
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: like out of left field that I'm like, oh, that

730
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 1: that actually makes sense. I hate it, but this made sense.

731
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: I didn't want it to make sense, but it does.

732
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: And it's a part of that understanding that it happened.

733
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: Now what do we do? Did it? I expected They've

734
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: gone through so much hell and finally get to a

735
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 1: point of being truly happy. And like his brother says

736
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: that at the funeral, you know he was happy, and

737
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,479
Speaker 1: it's just like, uh yeah. And that was one line

738
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: that um when carry says what do I do now? Know?

739
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: What do I do now? Um truly resonated because I

740
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: think that's it's kind of asking the question of like

741
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: the show and like grappling with this and what is

742
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: sex in the city now during our modern times? And

743
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: we get to see Carrie sort of you know, trying

744
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: to be like on a podcast or like you know,

745
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: adapt her sex column to more modern formats and then

746
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: asking these questions. Also, I thought it was interesting and

747
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people have had conversation about

748
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: this about it's kind of the reverse of what we

749
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 1: normally see where a woman dies and kicks off the

750
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: whole story. This is a man dying and kicking off

751
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: the plan one. Um. I know some people have kind

752
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: of critiqued that and said, like, basically they we're getting

753
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: out of showing problems in their marriage or something. But um,

754
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting twist on it. Also, we

755
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: have to touch on the age is um, because I

756
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: would say that's probably one of the big things when

757
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: when like the show was announced and when some of

758
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: the first set pictures came out and the trailers came out,

759
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: the internet at large was of course discussing their age,

760
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: the work they had gotten done or hadn't gotten done. Um,

761
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: you know, did they age well? And they did. In

762
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: the very first episode they kind of addressed that, and

763
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: it was one of those kind of icky scenes where

764
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: Charlotte was like, I missed the red hair and Branda

765
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: likede your hair and red and You're like, no, your

766
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: hair looks so good, Brandon, Right, Yeah, I think that's

767
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: the entire thing, the fact that there's a lot of

768
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: questions in my head. There was a lot of because

769
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 1: like a Carrie goes in for an interview for the podcast,

770
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: which I find interesting. This wi them vote for Vogue.

771
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: She had like two or three top bestseller lifestyle books

772
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: that went international, and I'm like, couldn't she just have

773
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 1: her own podcast? But maybe it's hard trying to come

774
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: into the new age, or because she just not just

775
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: all she did was books in the story, which she

776
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: looks like she was preparing for with her infamous laptops

777
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: that she likes, the type of one which we got

778
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: to see that. I found that interesting. A B. People

779
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: taking latent life changes. I adore that. I think they

780
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: they're wonderful with that. Again, I love Miranda's hair altogether.

781
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: But it is interesting to have Carrie talk about Instagram

782
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 1: and posting on Instagram about different people's fashions and which

783
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: I've actually seen in Instagram about New York fashion. There's

784
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: one like that shows off New York fashions and then

785
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: there's one that shows up Korean fashion in Japanese fashion,

786
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: which are very interesting. I sound old just saying that,

787
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: but yeah, like it. It's kind of interesting to see

788
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: that take on them trying to keep up in their

789
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: success or the latent life chains and what does that

790
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: look like as you're navigating as an older woman, what

791
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: does it do? But you afforded this because you have

792
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: the money under the time, So wonderful, but can you

793
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: actually fit in? Yes, yes, yes, chess um, And there's

794
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: so much like we don't have time to go into.

795
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: But they are continuing these conversations that we're having as

796
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: we do this watch through series, but around like yeah, masturbation, um,

797
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: like they're they're still asking those questions that are kind

798
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: of familiar to the conversations they had in the original series.

799
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: So I'm sure we'll have a lot more thoughts. I

800
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: did want to include this quote from Kristin Davis, who

801
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 1: plays Charlotte, who was asked about this kind of agism reaction.

802
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: She said, I'm a woman in my fifties, so I'm

803
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: well aware that your life does not end, whether you

804
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: have find a guy or a girl or not, whether

805
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: you have kids or not. Right, we can testify to

806
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: the fact that it's not over and it's not boring.

807
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: So I was never in doubt that we could tell

808
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: interesting stories. Um. Yeah, and I'm interested to see how

809
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: it goes. I enjoyed it, so one of our one

810
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: of the things I'm curious about Miranda and Jay. I

811
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 1: feel like there was some flirting. It does feel like

812
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: that something was going on, yes, so I'm interested to

813
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: see how that goes. I'm also Samantha and I discussed

814
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: were like, IM not sure if Miranda is an alcoholic

815
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: or if she's just really stressed. Not that you should

816
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: drink going stressed, but I don't know. Interested to see

817
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: about that. I think you're right, there's gonna be some

818
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: Charlotte carry drama. Um, you got any thoughts or predictions

819
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 1: for the future episodes. I think we're just gonna see

820
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: her really really evolve herself, and maybe they're gonna see

821
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: her for the first time just being her because again,

822
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: a majority of the episodes and the show's previously were

823
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: not I didn't revolve around men, but men were very

824
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: heavily part of it, So maybe this isn't. This is

825
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: kind of an awakening of her finding her off again

826
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: in what it looks like to be without being a

827
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: widow in this point, and I actually really do again

828
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: want to appreciate that this is a a plot line

829
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: and it's not, Uh, we've seen them before, but this

830
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,479
Speaker 1: is like the headline like the stars and one Who's here,

831
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: and not that that doesn't happen a lot. We do

832
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 1: see this happen a lot, but typically it involves horror

833
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: movie stuff. So what I'm thinking on instead of everyday

834
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: life stuff and seeing this and we've seen it, yes,

835
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: people revolve around it, and then we've only seen the

836
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: aftermath or I don't know, maybe they else shall end

837
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: up having another relationship. I don't know. I kind of

838
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: hope that it's not. I would like to see what

839
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: it looks like for this conversation, which has always been

840
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 1: finding the man of your dreams, to turn into being

841
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: being single and it's okay, or being without a relationship,

842
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: and it's okay because times have changed since the original

843
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: to where we are and now women are afforded that

844
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: and are happy with that. Like the second an option

845
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 1: is to be married. First option is just be good

846
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: and independent? So what does that look like? Not that

847
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: she wasn't independent, but I would like to. I hope

848
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: to see that a little bit, just to see her

849
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: growth because I couldn't imagine her jumping into a relationship

850
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: anytime soon. This is definitely not like a breakup. Um,

851
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: So I see that and her core, like pushing herself

852
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: and evolving and what that looks like. And I'm excited

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