Speaker 1: Go banter. I got nothing spinning my phone. What do
Speaker 1: y'all think of pop sockets? Huh? Change my life? My
Speaker 1: thumbs feel better, my pinky feels better. I was about
Speaker 1: to say, it's really my pinky because they used to
Speaker 1: that big support phone, and you could see the group
Speaker 1: didn't start to get the groove. Yeah, I just watched
Speaker 1: one of my little science videos that I was watching
Speaker 1: talked about Yeah, one of my little science my little
Speaker 1: science video. But I'm a little bow tie and my
Speaker 1: lab coat patches my chemistry set that I got for Christmas,
Speaker 1: a little volcano and bacon soda in a garry up
Speaker 1: and a little volcano put some food coloring in there. Adorable.
Speaker 1: And I watched my little videos, and this one talks
Speaker 1: specifically about that, actually the little divot in our pinky
Speaker 1: fingers from resting our phones on them so many years,
Speaker 1: and how you know whether or not people are really
Speaker 1: developing that interest saying? Were they? I don't remember the video.
Speaker 1: You learned a lot, I guess I really, yeah, really
Speaker 1: stuck in there. I was really focused on a baking
Speaker 1: soda and vinegar. So that's why if you're gonna watch
Speaker 1: the little video, you gotta wait to the little experiment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you know it was in the background. I found
Speaker 1: a great story we're going to do on this show,
Speaker 1: but I will say that for later. Tease, tease, tease,
Speaker 1: a real tease. You just had your little pastis on
Speaker 1: and you just did a little or lesque dance. I
Speaker 1: put those on for every record. You know this, that's true.
Speaker 1: If only y'all could see this. One day, we'll get
Speaker 1: video and that'll get banned from YouTube. I was about
Speaker 1: to say, I don't know if we should tell my
Speaker 1: heart that we have pastis and that would be like
Speaker 1: a quicker video or like they'll never do. Video will
Speaker 1: be up. Four person camera cur will show up at
Speaker 1: our house tomorrow if they hear that. That's what a
Speaker 1: podcast needs. A four person camera crew. Oh, we're missing cinematographer.
Speaker 1: We'll get um. I get Roger Deakins in here. He's
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna make it beautiful. Roger Deacon. Yes, that's
Speaker 1: so far away from what we're talking about today. It
Speaker 1: really is not close. Yeah, which is which is its
Speaker 1: own special kind of lead in right and in opposite
Speaker 1: news about here's Yeah, the seguae that like goes off
Speaker 1: of cliff, but it lands in a beautiful meadow down below.
Speaker 1: Everyone's fine, Yes, those little flying segues. Hey everybody, what's up.
Speaker 1: I'm Eli, I'm Diana. Yeah, we're happy to have you
Speaker 1: today on another ridiculous romance. Today we're doing something fun.
Speaker 1: We've got one of our little uh grab bags of
Speaker 1: stories here, which we asked you all to give us
Speaker 1: some ideas for what we would call these sort of
Speaker 1: collection episodes, and we've got a few good ones from you.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we've decided yet. We've got too
Speaker 1: many good suggestions through from Curveball's keys on Instagram it's
Speaker 1: at twitch. Curveballs suggested cavalcade of kink Oh, which is great,
Speaker 1: especially for our last one. I think we had a
Speaker 1: lot of kink talk in our last one. I think
Speaker 1: we even apparently referred to it as like a kink
Speaker 1: sack at some point that which is too much for
Speaker 1: even me. And then Larissa Hughes suggested current copulation because
Speaker 1: she noticed our predilection for alliteration. It's true, true, I
Speaker 1: do like things to illiterate. All words should start with
Speaker 1: the same letter, or rather, worlds of words would do
Speaker 1: well to start with the same syllable stuff. Sorry, I
Speaker 1: lost it. You know it's all right. And then Ricky
Speaker 1: at whoa I'm tripping who also suggested are Philip Moore
Speaker 1: us episode which was so really fun for check that out.
Speaker 1: Um reached back out and suggested goodie bag Um and said,
Speaker 1: but it's got to have the sexy music and Eli's
Speaker 1: deep voice he does for certain things. Okay, so welcome
Speaker 1: to today's goodie bag. Is that your will aren't at impression? Basically,
Speaker 1: I think any deep voices, anyone's will aren't impression. Generic
Speaker 1: deep voice. In a world where everyone sounds like will,
Speaker 1: aren't they all drive GMC built for tough. That's a
Speaker 1: free one for you. Ford, there you go. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: trying to get some more host red ads about that. Ford.
Speaker 1: We'll let us do our will aren't at impression. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think goodie bag works for this episode. Definitely, welcome
Speaker 1: to this week's goody bag. Bays, we're really getting real,
Speaker 1: that's right, that's right. Well jeez, I mean we still
Speaker 1: got a theme song to get through, so I say
Speaker 1: we just get real with it and get going. Yea,
Speaker 1: let's go. Yeah, Hey, the French come listen. Well, Elia
Speaker 1: and Diana got some stories to tell. There's no match making,
Speaker 1: a romantic tips. It's just about pridiculous relationships, a love.
Speaker 1: It might be any type of person at all, and
Speaker 1: abstract cons that don't a concrete wall. But if there's
Speaker 1: a story where the second clanch ridiculous role the production
Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. All right, so let's dev into
Speaker 1: this guinea bag. Yeah, because we have a selection of
Speaker 1: salacious stories Sean on Twitter since us this Sean isn't
Speaker 1: us A couple of suggestions in the past, like, um,
Speaker 1: the Purple people of at my house, So thank you, Sean.
Speaker 1: I always check it out for us. Um. And it
Speaker 1: kind of was like a Soviet stork derby. Let's start
Speaker 1: with a little bit of backstory. So back in nine
Speaker 1: the Soviet Union was trying to do more to support
Speaker 1: large families and pregnant women. Great goal, and so it
Speaker 1: created some honorary titles four Mothers, which I guess the
Speaker 1: first thing women are looking for when they're asking for support.
Speaker 1: They're like, give me an honorary title. So my number
Speaker 1: one concern I'll worry about the food and the water
Speaker 1: and the shelter, but could I please have a title? Okay?
Speaker 1: Try to respect me. I'd like a metal to pin
Speaker 1: to my lapel. Alright, so the titles were listen, if
Speaker 1: you had five to nine children, you could receive the
Speaker 1: Maternity Medal. But there was also the Order of Maternal Glory, what,
Speaker 1: which is pretty dope, actually so hard, And it was
Speaker 1: organized into three classes, all right, so you could get
Speaker 1: the Order of Maternal Glory. Third class meant you were
Speaker 1: a woman with seven kids. Second class was when you
Speaker 1: had eight kids, and then third class was for nine kids.
Speaker 1: But the Mother of All Awards, Nina Niner was for
Speaker 1: women who had ten or more children, and it was
Speaker 1: called the Mother Heroine Award because the mother would need
Speaker 1: some heroin after having ten kids just to get through
Speaker 1: the day. For the milk of the poppy. Wow, that
Speaker 1: is very intense. I mean, well, I grew up one
Speaker 1: of four as a kid, and that that was a lot.
Speaker 1: My mom deserved a medal for that. Well, all six
Speaker 1: of us deserved a medal quite honestly, for putting up
Speaker 1: with each other. We had one bathroom, damn one bathroom.
Speaker 1: I do love the name, like Order of Maternal Glory,
Speaker 1: It's so yes, totally, I can I can see the
Speaker 1: propaganda poster. Now it's like a woman with just the
Speaker 1: baby in the front, baby in the back, surround, surrounded
Speaker 1: by children, and yet looking off to the distance the
Speaker 1: brave future. There's some like fighter jets flying pastor is
Speaker 1: dropping like storks. Yeah, but who is the metal for?
Speaker 1: I mean, like, you know, I guess you point to
Speaker 1: your kids and you see these these metal of glory
Speaker 1: for pushing you little ships out. You got ten kids,
Speaker 1: you're not getting out much to go show it off.
Speaker 1: Very true. I guess they're like, listen, we're a society
Speaker 1: who wants to share the labor, but you can never
Speaker 1: share this labor. So you have to give her something.
Speaker 1: I gotta give her something of her own. I don't know. Now.
Speaker 1: Besides the honors themselves, the women were also entitled to
Speaker 1: retirement pensions and a supply of food and other goods
Speaker 1: to support their families. The state would even pay their
Speaker 1: utility bills. Okay, so it's not just a stamp and
Speaker 1: right certificate, which I kind of appreciate in a way
Speaker 1: because it's kind of I mean, you know, we could
Speaker 1: talk all day about how our country are. Our country
Speaker 1: specifically is pretty hateful to two women with children. We
Speaker 1: don't provide a lot of good childcare options. We don't
Speaker 1: like maternity leave, we don't like paternity leave. We you know,
Speaker 1: we really we want you to have a family, but
Speaker 1: we don't want you to have a family get in
Speaker 1: the way of your productivity and stuff. So it's like
Speaker 1: kind of a hostile place to raise a family in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. They're like, you need to have
Speaker 1: more babies, And then a woman comes up with like
Speaker 1: seven babies. She's like, I had more babies, just like
Speaker 1: you asked, And they're like, huh, who are you? But
Speaker 1: please don't bother me irresponsible? Yeah, go and go off
Speaker 1: and get your you get those children away from me.
Speaker 1: What I need to be educated now that's not my job.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I was just kind of like, well,
Speaker 1: this is sort of cool that they're you know, recognizing
Speaker 1: motherhood is something that is a service to humanity in
Speaker 1: a way. It is a very hard thing to put
Speaker 1: your body through multiple times. I don't know that I
Speaker 1: agree that you should after only ten children. His mother's
Speaker 1: out there with four kids who are like, boy, I
Speaker 1: could I could use a little while I feel tired
Speaker 1: and broke. Now, nearly five hundred thousand women received the
Speaker 1: Mother Heroin Award between nineteen four and the dissolution of
Speaker 1: the Soviet Union in d You do the math, how
Speaker 1: many people? I will hang on that was, well, it's
Speaker 1: just times ten, right, so five? Yeah, at least five
Speaker 1: million people were born for this, for this medal, just
Speaker 1: for that pretty good, a little boost. That's a boost
Speaker 1: in your in your labor force. I suppose, and you
Speaker 1: suppose each one of them had Mother Heroin ten children.
Speaker 1: That's that's the that's too far from me. That's an exponent. Now,
Speaker 1: there were stipulations for this award. It was given on
Speaker 1: the first birthday of the last child, but all previous
Speaker 1: nine kids still had to be alive. Now, if the
Speaker 1: kids died in either military service or like heroic circumstances,
Speaker 1: or in a terrorist attack or any occupational diseases or injuries,
Speaker 1: all those kids still counted. But if they just you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, um, you know, rode their segway off
Speaker 1: a cliff, that's sorry, it doesn't count, right, or or
Speaker 1: kind of like our Stork Derby episode. We were talking
Speaker 1: about how it was bad to set that prank on
Speaker 1: people because you couldn't assume that they would have the
Speaker 1: money they needed to raise a large family and like
Speaker 1: actually take care of them and feed them. And we
Speaker 1: even saw some like pretty bad stories about like rats
Speaker 1: and on babies and stuff. So anyway, Russia was like,
Speaker 1: I don't want you to just have these babies to
Speaker 1: try to get this award and you don't take care
Speaker 1: of them. I want you to actually take care of
Speaker 1: your family and make sure they're alive and well. Now,
Speaker 1: when the Soviet Union dissolved in the award was abolished,
Speaker 1: tons of mothers out there working on their tenth kid
Speaker 1: are like, are you kidding me? I just missed the window.
Speaker 1: But then in two thousand eight it was reinstated as
Speaker 1: the Order of Parental Glory parental so they made it
Speaker 1: less gendered. I guess. Oh. Now this was awarded to
Speaker 1: parents or adoptive parents for raising seven or more Russian
Speaker 1: citizens for, as the statute says, quote leading a healthy
Speaker 1: family life, being socially responsible, providing an adequate level of healthcare, education, physical,
Speaker 1: spiritual and mortal development of the children, full and harmonious
Speaker 1: development of their personality. Accepting on examples, to strengthen the
Speaker 1: institute of the family and the child brearing in that
Speaker 1: exact accent. They said it probably right, we're still hunting
Speaker 1: for moosse and squirrel. I love full and harmonious development
Speaker 1: of their personality. And I mean that, you know, not
Speaker 1: not a bad No. I love it, I really do.
Speaker 1: I'm like it's it really is like saying all the thing.
Speaker 1: Where's like, if we're going to ask people to have
Speaker 1: family members, if you want you to have family, we
Speaker 1: need to recognize that service to the community, I mean
Speaker 1: to society or whatever, And yeah, you should set an
Speaker 1: example for others to be like, you should also be
Speaker 1: into families. Like I don't know if it makes sense
Speaker 1: to me in a weird way, don't just pop out
Speaker 1: a bunch of babies and be like, here they are.
Speaker 1: I have the units of babies that you're requested. Yeah, like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm raising children to be full and individual people. And
Speaker 1: the order of parental glory still exists. But this mother
Speaker 1: heroin title was all but forgotten until August two, just
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, exactly very current events, when
Speaker 1: President Vladimir Putin decided to reinstate this title, and it
Speaker 1: had all the same stipulations in place about making sure
Speaker 1: they're alive and wealthfare and educated and everything. But he
Speaker 1: added a cash prize of one million rubles, which, let
Speaker 1: me see, in according to the currency calculators here, earth
Speaker 1: about sixteen thousand, six hundred and forty five dollars in
Speaker 1: US currency. That sounds less like less of a sixteen
Speaker 1: thousand not going to raise ten kids for you. It's
Speaker 1: going to get like four kids through third grade. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe maybe it'll go buy their backpacks. Right, I will
Speaker 1: pay for one students college textbooks thousand dollars. The Soviet
Speaker 1: government is so generous that sixteen thousand dollars more than
Speaker 1: we're getting. Very true. I mean, you know what, you
Speaker 1: know what, that's a good boy. So listen, why is
Speaker 1: Putin reinstating the Soviet era award right now? And there's
Speaker 1: modern times? M hmmm, Well, apparently he's worried about the
Speaker 1: Russian population common common complaint. I guess we're also worried
Speaker 1: about our population here. Yeah, there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: talking about it worldwide. I guess it's it's almost like
Speaker 1: there's something going on where people don't want to have babies. Now.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine why. So currently, let's do the numbers here.
Speaker 1: Currently there are a hundred and forty five point one
Speaker 1: million people living in Russia and that sounds like a lot,
Speaker 1: but it's a huge country. And think about America. We
Speaker 1: have at least three three million in our country. That's
Speaker 1: not as many as I would have thought. I guess
Speaker 1: it's like if you look at a population density map
Speaker 1: of Russia, they're so so much of it is just empty, right,
Speaker 1: completely blank. Which of course there's that there's like tundra
Speaker 1: and desert, you know what I mean, Like they have
Speaker 1: places where you would not just like we do. But
Speaker 1: still like that, that is smaller than I would have thought.
Speaker 1: And CNBC reports that the working age population has been
Speaker 1: declining since UM. They estimate that the overall population would
Speaker 1: contract by eight point four percent from its level by
Speaker 1: So the real problem is that the working age is
Speaker 1: not great. Everyone's getting older, there's not enough babies to replace,
Speaker 1: so are are fresh young? Strong backs are few and
Speaker 1: far between. I guess he's like no one wants to
Speaker 1: be young enough to work anymore. And of course the
Speaker 1: war with Ukraine is only exacerbating this problem with heavy casualties. UM.
Speaker 1: The Moscow Times reported that the population fell by a
Speaker 1: record eighties six thousand people a month from January through May,
Speaker 1: and the previous record was fifty seven thousand a month
Speaker 1: and two thousand and two, So that's pretty big deal,
Speaker 1: that is, And I mean that's the Moscow Times reporting it.
Speaker 1: I think the same I've heard. I don't obviously, I
Speaker 1: don't know, and I haven't done any heavy research into
Speaker 1: it myself, but we do see, like in terms of
Speaker 1: like Ukraine is saying a lot more Russians are dying
Speaker 1: than Russia is saying, right, So I don't, right, and
Speaker 1: both sides need their propaganda, so it's hard to it's
Speaker 1: hard to know who's who's conflating and who's deflating the
Speaker 1: numbers for whichever reason. But those are pretty disturbing numbers
Speaker 1: whichever way you look at it. But it's actually it's
Speaker 1: not just the war that's the problem. The state the
Speaker 1: Russian State Statistics Agency have show has showed a decline
Speaker 1: in the number of deaths year over years, so fewer
Speaker 1: people are dying, but Russian women simply are not having
Speaker 1: enough babies and a lot of people are migrating out
Speaker 1: of the country altogether, like give me a out of Russia.
Speaker 1: So I guess he's like, let me put this honor
Speaker 1: back and really encourage people to have large families, and
Speaker 1: then we'll also support them having those large families with
Speaker 1: you know this, this food supply and some money and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Books a few dollars and I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe that'll work. Maybe people will be really into that,
Speaker 1: I guess, but I don't know. In my opinion, Putin
Speaker 1: and every other country should probably take a good hard
Speaker 1: look at why people are not having children, why they
Speaker 1: don't want to have children, and Putin maybe want to
Speaker 1: see why people want to leave Russia area. They're just like,
Speaker 1: get me out of here. There's a reason for that,
Speaker 1: And it's not. It's not so I can have a
Speaker 1: baby somewhere else, like I mean, or it is maybe
Speaker 1: they're like, I ain't raised a kid here. I don't know.
Speaker 1: We do see that here. I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people who have been looking at or or actively moving
Speaker 1: to other countries. I just saw the number of Americans
Speaker 1: moving to Portugal like tripled this year, um, things like that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think you're right. I think it's a
Speaker 1: question of, like, well, why though maybe we solve nobody
Speaker 1: ever wants to solve the root of problems. They really don't.
Speaker 1: They just want to treat the symptom, yeah, instead of
Speaker 1: curing the illness. Yeah, literally and figuratively. That is like
Speaker 1: our whole m o as a species. It's just crazy
Speaker 1: to be I know what is wrong with us. I mean,
Speaker 1: it is hard work to dig down to a root
Speaker 1: and everything, but it is so weird to be like,
Speaker 1: let me dangle this carrot in front of your face
Speaker 1: as ladies, don't you want to have ten berths um
Speaker 1: for this metal, this five pointed star. Hello, you know,
Speaker 1: instead of like maybe like fixed the economy and personal freedoms,
Speaker 1: I don't know, just a thought or here in America,
Speaker 1: I think for a lot of people, it's the price
Speaker 1: of healthcare that is really like a number one reason
Speaker 1: to be like get me out of here and somewhere
Speaker 1: where I can go get my teeth fixed without going
Speaker 1: into bankruptcy. Um. So it's like, well, there's there's things
Speaker 1: we could work on that will lead to more productive
Speaker 1: laborers for you or whatever. The but like it ain't
Speaker 1: the metal. It's not a hard sell right now, there's
Speaker 1: not They're not really pitching it in the best way,
Speaker 1: or people are like selfish freeloaders like us. I just
Speaker 1: want to live childish own schedule. Yeah, I'm gonna childlessly
Speaker 1: run around Disney Yeah, rub it in your face, ye, stroller.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be held up by some stupid
Speaker 1: kid in Disney World. I love kids. Kids are great.
Speaker 1: They should have fun in the world. I don't want kids,
Speaker 1: but I hate when people call them like crotch goblins
Speaker 1: and stuff. It's so annoying, really gross. As as a
Speaker 1: childless couple, I think we get real frustrated when other
Speaker 1: childless couples like look down on kids or people who
Speaker 1: have kids and look at you kidding me, like no,
Speaker 1: we're the we're the suckers here, like you know, and
Speaker 1: I recognize that. Um, but you know, people all have
Speaker 1: their own reasons for not wanting kids. We've got our own,
Speaker 1: you know. Some people can't. Some people there's a lot
Speaker 1: of reasons. There's a lot. We could talk about that
Speaker 1: for a whole other podcasts. But but yeah, I've just
Speaker 1: seen thousand dollars is not going to change a lot
Speaker 1: of their minds, you know. And even here, you know,
Speaker 1: here you're like, oh, I have ten kids and will
Speaker 1: eventually give you a million dollars. I feel like a
Speaker 1: lot of people would not not go for it because
Speaker 1: a million dollars to have pay for ten berths in
Speaker 1: an American hospital either. So just throwing that out there,
Speaker 1: And what concerns me, and this is a little elitist
Speaker 1: of myself recognizing that in advance here, is that the
Speaker 1: people who do go for it, the people who hear
Speaker 1: the word a million dollars and they're like, yeah, I'm in,
Speaker 1: let's do it, are not necessarily people who should be
Speaker 1: having kids. Because I only say that because I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're incentive for having kids shouldn't be the cash you
Speaker 1: get for it, Like, if you don't want those kids
Speaker 1: to begin with, are those kids going to have a
Speaker 1: good life? Yeah? Isn't that a lot like being a
Speaker 1: foster parent or something just for the check and you
Speaker 1: treat the kids like ship because you don't really want
Speaker 1: the kid. I'm not going to assume that's the most
Speaker 1: a majority of foster parents. No, not at all. And
Speaker 1: we know there are cases like that, and it's like, Wow,
Speaker 1: what an ass If you're only doing it for the money,
Speaker 1: how are you raising these great citizens a full and
Speaker 1: harmonious development of their personality. Going back to what you said,
Speaker 1: a lot of countries the world all over have got
Speaker 1: to work harder at making it a better place to
Speaker 1: have kids, in an easier place to have and raised children. Um,
Speaker 1: why that is not the focus Beyond that's some like
Speaker 1: climate change messaging could be all about having more kids
Speaker 1: and a lot of jobs and healthcare costs, education, all
Speaker 1: that could be an argument for we're trying to help
Speaker 1: help people have families and that's what everybody wants, right. Well,
Speaker 1: I know that's what's going on in Russia with the
Speaker 1: mother heroine, mother heroine, mother heroine. I am a mother
Speaker 1: heroine hero wine. Well, I think that we'll take a
Speaker 1: quick commercial break and we'll come back with the next story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: welcome back to the show, everybody. So this month also
Speaker 1: became a huge and historic moment for LGBTQ people in Singapore. Cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But first we got to learn a little about the
Speaker 1: history of the lgbt Q experience in Singapore. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna take a quick fleeing with history. No one asked you.
Speaker 1: In eighteen thirty three, in India, under British control of
Speaker 1: the country, the colonial government formed the Indian Law Commission
Speaker 1: under Chairman Lord Thomas McCauley. Now, of course, none of
Speaker 1: these laws that the British government wrote reflected traditional Indian
Speaker 1: laws or customs, you know. They didn't bring any local
Speaker 1: consultants on they wrote this bill because under Buddhist and
Speaker 1: Hindu law throughout most of Asia, consensual homosexual intercourse was
Speaker 1: never a legal offense. But in this code the British
Speaker 1: wrote section three seven seven, which criminalized quote carnal intercourse
Speaker 1: against the order of nature. A gives the order of nature?
Speaker 1: And you might think that that sounds super ambiguous. How
Speaker 1: could you define what carnal intercourse is or what goes
Speaker 1: against the order of nature? And a lot of gay
Speaker 1: animals in nature, sure, yeah, and some that just switched
Speaker 1: genders back and forth at will. Well, and they don't
Speaker 1: even mention gay in this. They just say carnal intercourse,
Speaker 1: which is a lot of intercourse with some great intercourse
Speaker 1: has been cardinal, you know, and favorite intercourse and the
Speaker 1: order of nature, like you said, I mean, it could
Speaker 1: be defined as any number of things, because if you
Speaker 1: want to do something, isn't that inherently natural? Well, anyway,
Speaker 1: you might think this is super ambiguous, and it was.
Speaker 1: They had no idea how to interpret it. Nobody knew
Speaker 1: what had to penetrate what, who had to penetrate whom with, what, where,
Speaker 1: when and why in order for it to be considered
Speaker 1: carnal intercourse. Now, this same law was taken from India
Speaker 1: and it was adopted over in Singapore, and of course
Speaker 1: they just had the same problems over there. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a bunch of legal hullabaloo in India and Singapore about
Speaker 1: the definitions of carnal intercourse against the order of nature.
Speaker 1: And eventually the corpse decided it was actually any sex
Speaker 1: that wasn't potentially procreated, So anal sex and maybe oral
Speaker 1: sex between hetero or homosexual couples was outlawed um, which
Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of a lot of dudes were like,
Speaker 1: wait what and ladies do excuse me what? Yeah? This
Speaker 1: there was apparently a heated debate in court about it.
Speaker 1: But I like my husband to eat my ass. Well
Speaker 1: it says right here, Lord Thomas McCauley wrote down plain
Speaker 1: black and wines, no eating apps, Lord Thomas McCauley, I
Speaker 1: signed all my bills sincerely that dearest people. All right. So,
Speaker 1: by this narrow definition, it was an equally oppressive law
Speaker 1: for everyone. So it was like, this wasn't specifically against
Speaker 1: gay people. They were just like, no one could give
Speaker 1: blow jobs, no one can have anal sex, you know,
Speaker 1: which that argument is weak because if you say, well,
Speaker 1: this is for everyone, I'm not discriminating against gay people,
Speaker 1: and gay people are like, well what else can I do?
Speaker 1: I can't have, you know, traditional heteronormative penetrative sex because
Speaker 1: we don't have the two things between us that you're
Speaker 1: talking about. And also like, I'm sure there were plenty
Speaker 1: of like homophobic people who were like, yeah, yes, limit
Speaker 1: their sex limited. I'm so happy. Wait a minute, Wait
Speaker 1: a minute, wait a minute. Wait, you're saying I cannot
Speaker 1: like that, like too much? Pull back, pull back, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: Pulling back was very sinceanna. It also lumped in bestiality
Speaker 1: into this lump in bestiality in with homosexuality, I know,
Speaker 1: which is gross and kind ophelia too. They are not
Speaker 1: the same thing. They're not the same category, very different categories.
Speaker 1: There was even a case tried in India about a
Speaker 1: guy who sucked a buffalo is nostril. Why didn't that
Speaker 1: make it into our people in Pet's episode? Probably because
Speaker 1: I don't want to look into it. Well, I gotta say,
Speaker 1: nostril or the story this was. I will say this
Speaker 1: particular case was noted in Wikipedia with no citation, so
Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell is this guy fucking
Speaker 1: a buffalo's nostril? But you know, um, given some of
Speaker 1: the stories we've heard and told, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: go ahead and assume it's untrue. Right, Okay, maybe he
Speaker 1: just never gave an interview for some reason about I
Speaker 1: can't imagine why you didn't want to share that people.
Speaker 1: I tell you, some dudes they see a whole and
Speaker 1: they will just stick us. Dick finds a way. But
Speaker 1: later a court made a change to Singapore's opinions about
Speaker 1: heterosexual oral Second, and it's very sexy, So put the
Speaker 1: kids to bed and let's hear the deductive words of
Speaker 1: the Singaporean Court of Appeals. It is a factive life
Speaker 1: in humans as well as an animals that before the
Speaker 1: active copulation takes place, there is for play to stimulate
Speaker 1: the sex urge. Of course, this form of contractation fallacio
Speaker 1: or con lingus may not recommend itself to everyone for
Speaker 1: stimulating the sex surge, but the fact from ains that
Speaker 1: it is practiced by some when couples engaged in consensual
Speaker 1: sexual intercourse willingly indulged in flatio and kind of lingus
Speaker 1: as a stimulant to their respective sexual urges. Neither act
Speaker 1: can be considered to be against the order of nature
Speaker 1: and punishable under Section three seven seven of the Penal Code.
Speaker 1: In every other instance, the act of fallacio between a
Speaker 1: man and a woman will be carnal intercourse against the
Speaker 1: order of nature and punishable by section three seven seven.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm blessing. Oh my goodness, your mouth, thurty lawmaker.
Speaker 1: Splash my face with some cold water. Right, well, boy,
Speaker 1: I've never wanted lingus or fallacio or the similar contractations
Speaker 1: so badly in my life. Oh yes, stimulate my sex urge, baby,
Speaker 1: but only in a way that's not punishable by section
Speaker 1: only if it leads to procreative sex. Right, yeah, amazing?
Speaker 1: Can you? Will you give it? Will you give me
Speaker 1: the last two sentences of that? Like it's really sex,
Speaker 1: Like it's like it's a one number commercial. Yeah, come on,
Speaker 1: I want to hear it all right, Okay. When couples
Speaker 1: engaged and consensual sexual intercourse willingly indulged in fallacio and
Speaker 1: con a lingus as a stimulant to their respective sexual urgent, goodness,
Speaker 1: neither act can be considered to be against the order
Speaker 1: of nature punishable under section three seven seven of the
Speaker 1: Penal Code. In every other instance, the act of fallacio
Speaker 1: between a man and a woman will be carnal intercourse,
Speaker 1: against the order of nature and punishable by section three
Speaker 1: seven seven. Give it to me three seven seven, punish me.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I've never been so turned on by
Speaker 1: the Court of Appeals. Time one time. But we'll get
Speaker 1: out of that. Another episode had to be escorted out
Speaker 1: of it. Appeal, appeal your honor. I swear this has
Speaker 1: never happened before. I'm appealing my clothes off there it is. Wow. Yeah, okay, well,
Speaker 1: this is your future. You've got to you gotta get
Speaker 1: back into audio books, start reading smuts, starting erotic smut,
Speaker 1: erotic legal cases. I would love to. I'm trying to help.
Speaker 1: It's like that topless tutors joke in Van Wilder. Did
Speaker 1: you ever see that? No? I didn't. Wilder, Well, he
Speaker 1: was trying so many hours to live, but I was
Speaker 1: trying to help people graduate. So he made girls tutor
Speaker 1: them with their tops off. Very early two thousand'ssatristic humor.
Speaker 1: But that could be me for law students. I could
Speaker 1: read a law book just like this. And now it's
Speaker 1: time for Jamison first, the State of New Hampshire. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's the case. Uh I don't know either.
Speaker 1: Who's our saxon? Uh Let? What did I say? Jamison
Speaker 1: versus the State of New Hampshire? Is that a real case?
Speaker 1: And what case would you like me to read in
Speaker 1: a sexy fashion? All right? Getting back to the story here.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so they're saying that as long as you
Speaker 1: give a blow job and it leads to penetrative sex,
Speaker 1: that's cool. But if you don't, it's still punishable by
Speaker 1: section three seven, right, then you're just being a dirty
Speaker 1: pur But then, okay, it gets worse because in nineteen
Speaker 1: eight they borrowed a term from the labou Share Amendment
Speaker 1: in the UK's own Criminal Law Amendment Act of eighteen
Speaker 1: eighty five, and the term was gross indecency. Now, this
Speaker 1: specifically criminalized any sexual activity specifically between two men in England,
Speaker 1: and it said, quote any male person who, in public
Speaker 1: or private, commits, or is a party to, the commission of,
Speaker 1: or procures or attempts to procure the commission by any
Speaker 1: male person of any act of gross indecency, shall be
Speaker 1: guilty of a misdemeanor, and being convicted, shall be liable,
Speaker 1: at the discretion of the court, to be imprisoned for
Speaker 1: any term not exceeding two years, with or without hard labor,
Speaker 1: hard labor, the hardness. No no, no, no, I didn't
Speaker 1: say hard labor. I meant a difficult labor. And you
Speaker 1: know it. I love this guy. You can totally see
Speaker 1: him put his wig on the Total Disney cartoon. This
Speaker 1: guy put my wig on to make this judgment. And
Speaker 1: so they took the wording from the Labushare Agreement and
Speaker 1: they put it into section three seven seven A, almost
Speaker 1: identically in Britain's penal code for Singapore as well. And
Speaker 1: then when Singapore won their independence in nineteen sixty five,
Speaker 1: they opted to retain this ban on gay sex. They
Speaker 1: were like, it was good enough for when we were,
Speaker 1: you know, occupied by England, it's good enough for us
Speaker 1: independently now who are used to it, So why not now?
Speaker 1: A little over ten years ago, Singapore announced that it
Speaker 1: wasn't going to enforce three seven seven A any longer. Great,
Speaker 1: you know, that's sort of like us in Atlanta, the
Speaker 1: City of Atlanta decriminalized weed because Georgia will not legalize it.
Speaker 1: But Atlanta was like, we are so fucking sick. We
Speaker 1: don't have time clapping people into jails, little dimebags. We're
Speaker 1: not time for this. It's been decades in Singapore since
Speaker 1: anyone was arrested or prosecuted under this law. And while
Speaker 1: in a survey found that fifty five percent of Singaporeans
Speaker 1: wanted to retain the law, that number had dropped to
Speaker 1: ten ten percentage points only a few years. That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Do the math, right, Yeah, oh sorry, you're so right.
Speaker 1: Even even hey, I was an English major for a reason.
Speaker 1: Singapore's highest scot even suggested that three seven seven A
Speaker 1: should be repealed simply because it goes against the country's
Speaker 1: equality rights because it only applies to men. But ultimately
Speaker 1: they said they were not in the business of social change,
Speaker 1: and they left the decision to parliament classic, which is
Speaker 1: so annoying. It's like, well, you're legally punishing social behavior,
Speaker 1: so you kind of are in the business of social change,
Speaker 1: but you would deal with it. What about the social
Speaker 1: change that was made by making it illegal in the
Speaker 1: first place and just thrown that out there. Then just
Speaker 1: this week, Prime Minister Lesienne Long said the government would
Speaker 1: officially repeal the law. He said, quote, I believe this
Speaker 1: is the right thing to do and something that most
Speaker 1: Singaporeans will now accept. Singaporeans still have different views on
Speaker 1: weather homosexuality is right or wrong, but most people accept
Speaker 1: that a person's sexual orientation and behavior is a private
Speaker 1: and personal matter, and that sex between men should not
Speaker 1: be a criminal offense. Even among those who want to
Speaker 1: retain Section three seven seven A, most don't want to
Speaker 1: see it actively enforced. So finally, after any four years,
Speaker 1: the law is going to be completely repealed. Everybody's so
Speaker 1: happy woo. Everyone's celebrating, so excited that Singapore is that
Speaker 1: much closer to equality for gay people. And the Prime
Speaker 1: Minister says, now, hold on just a dang minute there,
Speaker 1: and everyone's like, wait what he continues his speech. Does
Speaker 1: the government felt like they needed to appease both sides
Speaker 1: of this argument, so he added quote even as we
Speaker 1: repeal three seven seven A, we will uphold and safeguard
Speaker 1: the institution of marriage. Under the law, only marriages between
Speaker 1: one man and one woman are recognized in Singapore. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that he's actually going to propose a constitutional Amendment
Speaker 1: to define marriage specifically that way in Singapore's constitution, he said, quote,
Speaker 1: the government will continue to uphold families as the basic
Speaker 1: building blocks of society. Every group must accept that it
Speaker 1: cannot get everything at once, because it is simply not possible.
Speaker 1: We must maintain mutual respect and trust that we have
Speaker 1: painstakingly built up over the years and stay united as
Speaker 1: one people. Blah blah blah blah blah. Which is that?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's such a tired argument, so many tired
Speaker 1: arguments in there. Actually, let's break it down, because you've
Speaker 1: got a the idea that families are the basic building
Speaker 1: blocks of society, and that a family specifically has to
Speaker 1: be heteronormative man, woman, child, and that a family can't
Speaker 1: be anything else. We know that a family looks like
Speaker 1: many different things, and sometimes those families are terrible. So
Speaker 1: don't tell me that that's like the right way to
Speaker 1: do it or the only way. Very true, that's very frustrating.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, it's like appeasement. We've got to make
Speaker 1: everybody happy. Now, you don't where somebody's gonna be mad,
Speaker 1: you know. And here's the difference. Let's say I'm a
Speaker 1: gay couple and I want to get married and you
Speaker 1: say that I can't. I'm very upset that I can't
Speaker 1: do the things I want to do and be the
Speaker 1: person I want to be in this country. Let's say
Speaker 1: I'm some bigot and I don't want gay people to
Speaker 1: get married, and they say gay people can get married.
Speaker 1: I continue my life ex actually the same as it was,
Speaker 1: and literally nothing changes at all. So how is this everyone?
Speaker 1: We've we've balanced it out, so both sides are getting
Speaker 1: something and losing something. That's not it, not at all,
Speaker 1: there's not that's not a balance. But one day I
Speaker 1: might have to be nice to a gay teacher or
Speaker 1: a gay parents or something, and I don't want to
Speaker 1: be nice to them, and not even that they already
Speaker 1: changed that long. It was like one day I might
Speaker 1: have to just know that two people are married. Oh god, huh,
Speaker 1: what will I do? Also, this sacred institute of marriage
Speaker 1: is such a false thing. That's pretty recent because marriages
Speaker 1: way back in the day, we're just you're shacked up
Speaker 1: for a while, and pep, we're like, great, you're married,
Speaker 1: and then if somebody left, a few years would go
Speaker 1: by and one guess not coming back. Can you marry
Speaker 1: someone else, like you just you did not have all
Speaker 1: of this hullabaloo about it, and so it's so funny
Speaker 1: that we create a marriage for legal reasons. Literally, we
Speaker 1: were like, who do you want to leave your it too?
Speaker 1: And that is it. They added some religious stuff and
Speaker 1: now it's this sacred institution, but that's really just to
Speaker 1: get you to spent sixty dollars on your part. Well,
Speaker 1: and then yeah, there's these people that are like, well,
Speaker 1: we were okay with the law existing, we don't want
Speaker 1: to see it enforced, but then why have it? Then
Speaker 1: why have it a Well, it's it's the same on
Speaker 1: both sides, because the pro lgbt Q movements were saying,
Speaker 1: I know you're not enforcing this law, but just having
Speaker 1: it on the books is oppressing us. It's giving people
Speaker 1: the firepower and the ammunition the foundation to say, but
Speaker 1: what you're doing is wrong technically illegally. I know we're
Speaker 1: not enforcing it, but I know I'm learning that it
Speaker 1: says right there in the law that your existence is wrong.
Speaker 1: And the people who were like, keep the law of
Speaker 1: the books, just don't enforce it feel the same way.
Speaker 1: They're like, I love to be able to point to
Speaker 1: the books and say I know that I can't to you,
Speaker 1: but I know that legally you're wrong, I guess to me.
Speaker 1: My immediate thought was that I will. I do want
Speaker 1: it to be selectively enforced. There are certain people that
Speaker 1: I would like you to use this law again. It's
Speaker 1: there if I need it exactly, exactly definitely. UM. So
Speaker 1: maybe it's it's probably you're right, and it's a combination
Speaker 1: of both, but more consciously it's probably that I just
Speaker 1: like to be able to say you're wrong and I
Speaker 1: know it. New York Times says that Singapore is quote
Speaker 1: famously known as a nanny state, and the government often
Speaker 1: interferes and even small aspects of people's personal lives, so
Speaker 1: they have strict and aggressive punishments for things like minor
Speaker 1: drug possession that, for example, we in America are increasingly decriminalized. Um.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of strict conservative religious action groups
Speaker 1: that have been pushing for three seven seven A to
Speaker 1: not only stay on the books, but to be more
Speaker 1: aggressively enforced. And meanwhile, l g B t Q community
Speaker 1: groups have been celebrating the repeal but pushing back about
Speaker 1: this idea of the amendment, saying, quote, we urged the
Speaker 1: government not to heed recent calls from religious conservatives to
Speaker 1: enshrine the definition of marriage into the constitution. Such a
Speaker 1: decision will undermine the secular character of our constitution, codify
Speaker 1: further discrimination into supreme law, and tie the hands of
Speaker 1: future parliament. Right right, very good point. Absolutely putting it
Speaker 1: right there into the constitution is going to make things
Speaker 1: very hard, Doneline, which of course I assume is the point.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like putting like into your constitution, like
Speaker 1: we abolish slavery except for punishment of a crime. It's
Speaker 1: almost like when you do that, you sort of create
Speaker 1: a criminal class for yourself so that you'll have a
Speaker 1: lot of free labor. I don't know, just sit balling.
Speaker 1: It's like a totally hypothetical. Yeah, I can't imagine anyone's
Speaker 1: ever done that. Um yeah, that's that's really tough that
Speaker 1: they're going through that, because it is it's got to
Speaker 1: be such a what dichotomous moment. You're are very excited
Speaker 1: and also like, oh, but that's a big step back too,
Speaker 1: because if it was just like we're gonna decriminalize homosexuality
Speaker 1: and we're not gonna allow gay marriage yet, that's one
Speaker 1: thing and that already kind of sucks. You're like, you're
Speaker 1: this close, just do the whole thing. But they said,
Speaker 1: and we're specifically going to write down that you can
Speaker 1: never get married. YEA, let's just get ahead of this
Speaker 1: and stop you before you can even start. That sucks.
Speaker 1: That does suck. What I guess, I'm glad that people
Speaker 1: will not be getting blackmailed and arrested and so on,
Speaker 1: because I think we did learn that a little bit
Speaker 1: too about the British law was that it was really
Speaker 1: just used to blackmail people. Um a lot of the time.
Speaker 1: It was not enforced unless you were like, I can
Speaker 1: go tell the cops about you, so give me what
Speaker 1: I want, right, So, still a long way to go
Speaker 1: for the LGBTQ community in Singapore and the world over,
Speaker 1: I'm sure, yeah, but but a big step forward also,
Speaker 1: like one really good thing that we're all are excited about.
Speaker 1: Keep the triumphs in there, yeah, absolutely for sure. Well,
Speaker 1: we've got one more story to tell, and it's got
Speaker 1: a big old dick in it, so let's take a
Speaker 1: quick commercial break and come back and deal with that.
Speaker 1: All right, Welcome back to the show. This is such
Speaker 1: a fun story. I have it Parana since us this
Speaker 1: on Instagram, So thank you, Parana. I ken looking out
Speaker 1: for us on our Getting Bag episode events. So we're
Speaker 1: going to take you to the small town of Missantla
Speaker 1: in the eastern state of Vera Cruz in Mexico, where
Speaker 1: a woman named Katerina or Duna Perez recently passed away
Speaker 1: at nine years Vice reports that she grew up in poverty.
Speaker 1: She never attended school, but through hard work and determination,
Speaker 1: she became an influential person in Missantla, with politicians often
Speaker 1: making a point to like stop by and court her
Speaker 1: and talk to her and a game with her because
Speaker 1: they knew how much clout she had. They're like, I
Speaker 1: got you wanna you wanna be somebody in Massantla. You
Speaker 1: gotta get Donya Katarina on your side. Yea. And throughout
Speaker 1: her life she made a point to tell her children,
Speaker 1: her grandchildren, and her great grandchildren how special they could
Speaker 1: be and how they could accomplish anything they set their
Speaker 1: minds to. Her grandson Alvaro mote Lemon told Vice quote,
Speaker 1: she always said, in the Mexican sense that we were
Speaker 1: very gas vigas. That's beautiful. I love this Vergas. That's
Speaker 1: one of those words that just it seems to me,
Speaker 1: just makes me think I never took Spanish. But it's
Speaker 1: it's lovely. I love this word. Let's let's read on here.
Speaker 1: Let's see. Virgas is a slang word in Mexico that
Speaker 1: it can apparently translate a few different ways in English.
Speaker 1: The word that it's closest to is cock. How all right,
Speaker 1: but that's a bold word, Grandma, call me a dick today.
Speaker 1: Is a big dick today. But that's not the only meaning.
Speaker 1: Virgas can also be used to tell people to go
Speaker 1: funk themselves, La viga, remember that one. If I really
Speaker 1: want to get into a fight in Mexico, I'll remember
Speaker 1: that one. Well, don't forget. You can also tell them
Speaker 1: that they ain't ship by saying valas virga viga. But
Speaker 1: something called virga can also mean cool or badass, and
Speaker 1: don't you Katarina always meant it like that. She referred
Speaker 1: to her family as virgas to mean that they had
Speaker 1: moral strength than fortitude, or that they had, as Alvaro
Speaker 1: told Vice, quote, integrity, courage, passion, and at the same
Speaker 1: time love and joy just like a dick, a lot
Speaker 1: like a penis. Yeah, that's what I think of integrity, courage, fortitude, passion,
Speaker 1: love and joy, and maybe stubbornness occasionally uh misguidance. Well,
Speaker 1: Alvaro points out that yes, yes, stick in your head
Speaker 1: where it don't belong, sometimes like a like a buffalo's nostril. Well,
Speaker 1: Alvaro points out that in a country quote steeped in machismo,
Speaker 1: she managed to instill enough Big Vargas energy into her
Speaker 1: family that a lot of them went onto wide ranging careers,
Speaker 1: like Alvaro's sister got her doctorate degree, and Alvara himself
Speaker 1: completed two master's degrees and was even mayor of Missantla
Speaker 1: for a while. How do you think he courted Donya Katarina.
Speaker 1: He had to come over, bring some cookies and grandma.
Speaker 1: He's like, hello, I'm the only virga running. So now,
Speaker 1: over the years, Donya Katarina told her family and the
Speaker 1: people of Missancla that when she died, she wanted her
Speaker 1: tomb adorned with a giant penis. She's like a bold, spunky,
Speaker 1: playful kind of woman. So Alvaro and most people thought
Speaker 1: it was just a joke. Donia Katza making her dick
Speaker 1: jokes again, but then close to her death. Alvaro asked
Speaker 1: her about it again. He's like, do you really mean that,
Speaker 1: because now we're actually planning, you know, is that just joke?
Speaker 1: And he told Vice that she explained, quote, it was
Speaker 1: her desire so that no one would forget her and
Speaker 1: that everything we loved about her would be remembered more easily.
Speaker 1: She's not wrong about that. It'll be hard to forget
Speaker 1: a lady with this this monument, for sure, I love.
Speaker 1: She's like, oh no, I meant that ship. They all
Speaker 1: thought it was joking. No, no, no, no, I don't
Speaker 1: joke about That's one thing I'm extremely always been serious,
Speaker 1: and it tracked with her personality. She was quote always
Speaker 1: very avant, hard, very forward thinking about things. She wanted
Speaker 1: to break the paradigm of everything Mexican, where things are
Speaker 1: sometimes hidden because of not having an open mind. That
Speaker 1: was again Alvaro talking to Vice, which I think is
Speaker 1: interesting because if if if they're one of their definitions
Speaker 1: of Virga is cool or badass, that kind of makes sense.
Speaker 1: It tracks if you're dicks are cool. Well, she's clearly
Speaker 1: like the cool, funky punk rock grandma, you know, like
Speaker 1: cool grandma. She seemed like a real just up minded,
Speaker 1: like down for the party, definitely make a Dick jokes,
Speaker 1: which I love. I love seeing that was when in
Speaker 1: someone who had kind of a limited life and always
Speaker 1: lived in a small town and like maybe didn't see
Speaker 1: that much of the world, but for like, for some reason,
Speaker 1: they just have this expanse, you know, this this ability
Speaker 1: to take it all in and and really enjoy enjoy life,
Speaker 1: you know. So anyway, after she passed away on January one,
Speaker 1: Alvaro says, quote, we talked as a family and decided
Speaker 1: to make her dream come true. What a family meeting that,
Speaker 1: all right, We got to meet about the giant Dicks statue.
Speaker 1: Grandma want all right, everybody, I've got two jars here,
Speaker 1: Dick or no Dick. Everybody just put a slip of
Speaker 1: paper in one or the other, and we're going to
Speaker 1: count them anonymous voting, yeah, if you want to keep
Speaker 1: your name off. And they're like, oh my god. It
Speaker 1: was unanimous for But of course now they're dealing with
Speaker 1: the logistics of it. Who out there could construct this
Speaker 1: giant Dick statue. Alvaro called a local engineer named Cedro Lavonier,
Speaker 1: who builds plastic products like water tanks, or children's play sets,
Speaker 1: and he made a request and hey, um, can you
Speaker 1: put the kids toys down and build me a giant penis?
Speaker 1: Make me a grandma's toy? Uh huh, Cidro. Of course
Speaker 1: he thought it was a joke to quote, because it's
Speaker 1: not very common to see these kinds of sculptures or monuments,
Speaker 1: and even less so in the memory of someone who's deceased.
Speaker 1: Nobody asked for giant dicks to be constructed out of
Speaker 1: plastic products, but Alvaro persisted. He told him, no, I'm
Speaker 1: dead serious, we really want this dick grave. And finally
Speaker 1: a Sedro was convinced because, after all, quote Donya Kata
Speaker 1: was someone who broke taboos. I wonder how many messages
Speaker 1: he had to leave. Yeah, he was like, no, hello,
Speaker 1: this is it's me again. I'm very serious. Is not
Speaker 1: a kid magan prank call? I really need to know.
Speaker 1: So is Cedro got to work alongside. This was not
Speaker 1: a one person job. He needed a carpenter, a sander,
Speaker 1: a sculptor, and a carver to build this statue. Vice
Speaker 1: says quote. They got particularly delayed on the ball sack
Speaker 1: when the first attempt was disfigured and they had to
Speaker 1: start the process again. Yeah, he's like, no disfigured testicles
Speaker 1: for Dona Kata. Is Cedro explained that they had to
Speaker 1: melt down materials quote to give it the necessary amplitude
Speaker 1: so that the testicles could be formed. I made some
Speaker 1: bulk for this ball. So finally, on July two, more
Speaker 1: than a year later, the completed monument was mounted to
Speaker 1: Donna Katta's tomb and unveiled a five and a half
Speaker 1: foot tall, shiny pink cock and balls weighing nearly six
Speaker 1: hundred pounds in quote, recognition of her love and joy
Speaker 1: for life. I mean, look, if I don't know her,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk back, walk by that grave and think
Speaker 1: it's in recognition of her love and joy for dicks. Hey,
Speaker 1: maybe she had that. She did love dicks. I mean,
Speaker 1: clearly she had some respect for the date. She had
Speaker 1: a lot of respect to the date. And of course
Speaker 1: this immediately went viral. I mean, you don't see a
Speaker 1: five and a half foot tall pink and not take
Speaker 1: a picture of probably in the story floating around there,
Speaker 1: um is Cedro received some interesting new commission. He got
Speaker 1: a request from a family of a guy who had
Speaker 1: worked for years in the construction industry for a gravestone
Speaker 1: shaped like a dump trap. So new new, new, novelty
Speaker 1: gravestone business for this guy. But of course, you know,
Speaker 1: plenty of people don't appreciate seeing a giant penis out
Speaker 1: of nowhere. Alvaro told Vice, quote, of every ten people,
Speaker 1: I think that around seven see it positively. And if
Speaker 1: they don't see it as a good thing, they at
Speaker 1: least respect Donya katsis wishes. There are others who, in
Speaker 1: their conservative values, are very closed minded, very square, who
Speaker 1: see it poorly. Um, I like, he's like these squares
Speaker 1: old loved It's how old are you get your life right?
Speaker 1: But as Vice reports, the family had discussed that ahead
Speaker 1: of time, probably when they made their unanimous jar decision,
Speaker 1: and they were prepared for any criticism or amount of backlash.
Speaker 1: To respect Donna Katarina's wishes, They're like, well, go through
Speaker 1: it for her. We don't care. Vice concludes, quote, after all,
Speaker 1: the family is made up of gas bowls. They don't
Speaker 1: mind resting their way into the new world. They're like,
Speaker 1: no matter what happens, we will remain turgient. That's right.
Speaker 1: What a story. It's so and it's worth bull Look
Speaker 1: for sure that the pictures are very amazing. If you
Speaker 1: didn't know what was there would definitely be a surprise
Speaker 1: amongst all the angels with like trumpets, you know, like,
Speaker 1: wait a second, what's that in the distance? Did they
Speaker 1: know that that looks exactly like a big dick? Oh?
Speaker 1: Do we we fixed the balls? In fact? Well, I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about Victor Noir his like small pants bulge that
Speaker 1: people lose their minds over what's going to happen to
Speaker 1: this dick? Okay, And it's like thrusting vertically into the air.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, you could see people do a pole
Speaker 1: dance on that. They could do all eyes of things. Oh,
Speaker 1: I love it. You know, the world is a fucking playgrounds.
Speaker 1: You know. People need to treat it as such. I
Speaker 1: have some damn fun stuff being so serious. Let people
Speaker 1: live their lives and go and enjoy yourself, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: let them mark their deaths however they want. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: across all three of these stories, you know, it's really
Speaker 1: about uh what you know, let people in their lives,
Speaker 1: whether it's kids, are not support people no matter what
Speaker 1: they're going through. Uh, Let people be themselves. Let people
Speaker 1: have fun so much. The opposition too, especially these last
Speaker 1: two stories, is people just trying to step on someone
Speaker 1: else's good time. Yeah, And when you're looking at the
Speaker 1: when you're looking at like the net human experience people
Speaker 1: are having collectively, like all of us together, why you're
Speaker 1: not contributing to a positive for everyone else you see
Speaker 1: is outrageous to me totally. And like you said, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is such a weird world. Yeah, we're weird. Like,
Speaker 1: if it's really not harming anybody, let me have my
Speaker 1: fun for real, for real. Well, it was cool to
Speaker 1: kind of get some world news. Yeah, definite news. Going
Speaker 1: thinks again to Sean and Pana for sending those links along,
Speaker 1: definitely like, oh we got a real good gutty bag.
Speaker 1: That's a good one. Thank you all for tuning in,
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Speaker 1: and sometimes they fit perfectly right in. Sometimes you can
Speaker 1: just slip them in right here, the perfect size for
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