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Speaker 1: I'm Eli, I'm Diana. Yeah, we're happy to have you

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Speaker 1: today on another ridiculous romance. Today we're doing something fun.

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Speaker 1: We've got one of our little uh grab bags of

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Speaker 1: many good suggestions through from Curveball's keys on Instagram it's

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Speaker 1: In eighteen thirty three, in India, under British control of

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Speaker 1: black and wines, no eating apps, Lord Thomas McCauley, I

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Speaker 1: signed all my bills sincerely that dearest people. All right. So,

425
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 1: by this narrow definition, it was an equally oppressive law

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Speaker 1: for everyone. So it was like, this wasn't specifically against

427
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Speaker 1: gay people. They were just like, no one could give

428
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Speaker 1: blow jobs, no one can have anal sex, you know,

429
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 1: which that argument is weak because if you say, well,

430
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Speaker 1: this is for everyone, I'm not discriminating against gay people,

431
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: and gay people are like, well what else can I do?

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00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: I can't have, you know, traditional heteronormative penetrative sex because

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Speaker 1: we don't have the two things between us that you're

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Speaker 1: talking about. And also like, I'm sure there were plenty

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00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: of like homophobic people who were like, yeah, yes, limit

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00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: their sex limited. I'm so happy. Wait a minute, Wait

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00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: a minute, wait a minute. Wait, you're saying I cannot

438
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: like that, like too much? Pull back, pull back, no, no, no.

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00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: Pulling back was very sinceanna. It also lumped in bestiality

440
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: into this lump in bestiality in with homosexuality, I know,

441
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: which is gross and kind ophelia too. They are not

442
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: the same thing. They're not the same category, very different categories.

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00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: There was even a case tried in India about a

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00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: guy who sucked a buffalo is nostril. Why didn't that

445
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: make it into our people in Pet's episode? Probably because

446
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to look into it. Well, I gotta say,

447
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: nostril or the story this was. I will say this

448
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: particular case was noted in Wikipedia with no citation, so

449
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell is this guy fucking

450
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: a buffalo's nostril? But you know, um, given some of

451
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: the stories we've heard and told, I'm not going to

452
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: go ahead and assume it's untrue. Right, Okay, maybe he

453
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: just never gave an interview for some reason about I

454
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: can't imagine why you didn't want to share that people.

455
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: I tell you, some dudes they see a whole and

456
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: they will just stick us. Dick finds a way. But

457
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,719
Speaker 1: later a court made a change to Singapore's opinions about

458
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: heterosexual oral Second, and it's very sexy, So put the

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00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: kids to bed and let's hear the deductive words of

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00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: the Singaporean Court of Appeals. It is a factive life

461
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: in humans as well as an animals that before the

462
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Speaker 1: active copulation takes place, there is for play to stimulate

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00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: the sex urge. Of course, this form of contractation fallacio

464
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Speaker 1: or con lingus may not recommend itself to everyone for

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Speaker 1: stimulating the sex surge, but the fact from ains that

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00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: it is practiced by some when couples engaged in consensual

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00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: sexual intercourse willingly indulged in flatio and kind of lingus

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00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: as a stimulant to their respective sexual urges. Neither act

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Speaker 1: can be considered to be against the order of nature

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Speaker 1: and punishable under Section three seven seven of the Penal Code.

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Speaker 1: In every other instance, the act of fallacio between a

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Speaker 1: man and a woman will be carnal intercourse against the

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Speaker 1: order of nature and punishable by section three seven seven.

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm blessing. Oh my goodness, your mouth, thurty lawmaker.

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00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: Splash my face with some cold water. Right, well, boy,

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00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: I've never wanted lingus or fallacio or the similar contractations

477
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: so badly in my life. Oh yes, stimulate my sex urge, baby,

478
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: but only in a way that's not punishable by section

479
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: only if it leads to procreative sex. Right, yeah, amazing?

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00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: Can you? Will you give it? Will you give me

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00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: the last two sentences of that? Like it's really sex,

482
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: Like it's like it's a one number commercial. Yeah, come on,

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00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: I want to hear it all right, Okay. When couples

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00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: engaged and consensual sexual intercourse willingly indulged in fallacio and

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00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: con a lingus as a stimulant to their respective sexual urgent, goodness,

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Speaker 1: neither act can be considered to be against the order

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Speaker 1: of nature punishable under section three seven seven of the

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Speaker 1: Penal Code. In every other instance, the act of fallacio

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00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: between a man and a woman will be carnal intercourse,

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Speaker 1: against the order of nature and punishable by section three

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00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: seven seven. Give it to me three seven seven, punish me.

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00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I've never been so turned on by

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Speaker 1: the Court of Appeals. Time one time. But we'll get

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00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,239
Speaker 1: out of that. Another episode had to be escorted out

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00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:22,239
Speaker 1: of it. Appeal, appeal your honor. I swear this has

496
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: never happened before. I'm appealing my clothes off there it is. Wow. Yeah, okay, well,

497
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: this is your future. You've got to you gotta get

498
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: back into audio books, start reading smuts, starting erotic smut,

499
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: erotic legal cases. I would love to. I'm trying to help.

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00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:46,479
Speaker 1: It's like that topless tutors joke in Van Wilder. Did

501
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: you ever see that? No? I didn't. Wilder, Well, he

502
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: was trying so many hours to live, but I was

503
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: trying to help people graduate. So he made girls tutor

504
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: them with their tops off. Very early two thousand'ssatristic humor.

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00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: But that could be me for law students. I could

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00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: read a law book just like this. And now it's

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00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: time for Jamison first, the State of New Hampshire. I

508
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: don't know if that's the case. Uh I don't know either.

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00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: Who's our saxon? Uh Let? What did I say? Jamison

510
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: versus the State of New Hampshire? Is that a real case?

511
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: And what case would you like me to read in

512
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: a sexy fashion? All right? Getting back to the story here.

513
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, so they're saying that as long as you

514
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: give a blow job and it leads to penetrative sex,

515
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: that's cool. But if you don't, it's still punishable by

516
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: section three seven, right, then you're just being a dirty

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00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: pur But then, okay, it gets worse because in nineteen

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Speaker 1: eight they borrowed a term from the labou Share Amendment

519
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: in the UK's own Criminal Law Amendment Act of eighteen

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Speaker 1: eighty five, and the term was gross indecency. Now, this

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00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: specifically criminalized any sexual activity specifically between two men in England,

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00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: and it said, quote any male person who, in public

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Speaker 1: or private, commits, or is a party to, the commission of,

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Speaker 1: or procures or attempts to procure the commission by any

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00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: male person of any act of gross indecency, shall be

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Speaker 1: guilty of a misdemeanor, and being convicted, shall be liable,

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Speaker 1: at the discretion of the court, to be imprisoned for

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Speaker 1: any term not exceeding two years, with or without hard labor,

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Speaker 1: hard labor, the hardness. No no, no, no, I didn't

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00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: say hard labor. I meant a difficult labor. And you

531
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: know it. I love this guy. You can totally see

532
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: him put his wig on the Total Disney cartoon. This

533
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: guy put my wig on to make this judgment. And

534
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: so they took the wording from the Labushare Agreement and

535
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: they put it into section three seven seven A, almost

536
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: identically in Britain's penal code for Singapore as well. And

537
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: then when Singapore won their independence in nineteen sixty five,

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00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: they opted to retain this ban on gay sex. They

539
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: were like, it was good enough for when we were,

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00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: you know, occupied by England, it's good enough for us

541
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: independently now who are used to it, So why not now?

542
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: A little over ten years ago, Singapore announced that it

543
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: wasn't going to enforce three seven seven A any longer. Great,

544
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: you know, that's sort of like us in Atlanta, the

545
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: City of Atlanta decriminalized weed because Georgia will not legalize it.

546
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: But Atlanta was like, we are so fucking sick. We

547
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 1: don't have time clapping people into jails, little dimebags. We're

548
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: not time for this. It's been decades in Singapore since

549
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: anyone was arrested or prosecuted under this law. And while

550
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: in a survey found that fifty five percent of Singaporeans

551
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: wanted to retain the law, that number had dropped to

552
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: ten ten percentage points only a few years. That's pretty good.

553
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: Do the math, right, Yeah, oh sorry, you're so right.

554
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: Even even hey, I was an English major for a reason.

555
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: Singapore's highest scot even suggested that three seven seven A

556
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: should be repealed simply because it goes against the country's

557
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: equality rights because it only applies to men. But ultimately

558
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: they said they were not in the business of social change,

559
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: and they left the decision to parliament classic, which is

560
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: so annoying. It's like, well, you're legally punishing social behavior,

561
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: so you kind of are in the business of social change,

562
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: but you would deal with it. What about the social

563
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: change that was made by making it illegal in the

564
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: first place and just thrown that out there. Then just

565
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: this week, Prime Minister Lesienne Long said the government would

566
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: officially repeal the law. He said, quote, I believe this

567
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: is the right thing to do and something that most

568
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: Singaporeans will now accept. Singaporeans still have different views on

569
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: weather homosexuality is right or wrong, but most people accept

570
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 1: that a person's sexual orientation and behavior is a private

571
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: and personal matter, and that sex between men should not

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Speaker 1: be a criminal offense. Even among those who want to

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Speaker 1: retain Section three seven seven A, most don't want to

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Speaker 1: see it actively enforced. So finally, after any four years,

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Speaker 1: the law is going to be completely repealed. Everybody's so

576
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: happy woo. Everyone's celebrating, so excited that Singapore is that

577
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: much closer to equality for gay people. And the Prime

578
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,479
Speaker 1: Minister says, now, hold on just a dang minute there,

579
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: and everyone's like, wait what he continues his speech. Does

580
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: the government felt like they needed to appease both sides

581
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: of this argument, so he added quote even as we

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00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: repeal three seven seven A, we will uphold and safeguard

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00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: the institution of marriage. Under the law, only marriages between

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00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: one man and one woman are recognized in Singapore. Yeah,

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00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: and that he's actually going to propose a constitutional Amendment

586
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: to define marriage specifically that way in Singapore's constitution, he said, quote,

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00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: the government will continue to uphold families as the basic

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00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: building blocks of society. Every group must accept that it

589
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: cannot get everything at once, because it is simply not possible.

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00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: We must maintain mutual respect and trust that we have

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00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: painstakingly built up over the years and stay united as

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00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: one people. Blah blah blah blah blah. Which is that?

593
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,959
Speaker 1: I mean, it's such a tired argument, so many tired

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00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: arguments in there. Actually, let's break it down, because you've

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00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: got a the idea that families are the basic building

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00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: blocks of society, and that a family specifically has to

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00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: be heteronormative man, woman, child, and that a family can't

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Speaker 1: be anything else. We know that a family looks like

599
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: many different things, and sometimes those families are terrible. So

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00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: don't tell me that that's like the right way to

601
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: do it or the only way. Very true, that's very frustrating.

602
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: And then yeah, it's like appeasement. We've got to make

603
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: everybody happy. Now, you don't where somebody's gonna be mad,

604
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: you know. And here's the difference. Let's say I'm a

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00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: gay couple and I want to get married and you

606
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: say that I can't. I'm very upset that I can't

607
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: do the things I want to do and be the

608
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: person I want to be in this country. Let's say

609
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm some bigot and I don't want gay people to

610
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: get married, and they say gay people can get married.

611
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: I continue my life ex actually the same as it was,

612
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: and literally nothing changes at all. So how is this everyone?

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00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: We've we've balanced it out, so both sides are getting

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00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: something and losing something. That's not it, not at all,

615
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: there's not that's not a balance. But one day I

616
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: might have to be nice to a gay teacher or

617
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: a gay parents or something, and I don't want to

618
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: be nice to them, and not even that they already

619
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: changed that long. It was like one day I might

620
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: have to just know that two people are married. Oh god, huh,

621
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: what will I do? Also, this sacred institute of marriage

622
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: is such a false thing. That's pretty recent because marriages

623
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: way back in the day, we're just you're shacked up

624
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 1: for a while, and pep, we're like, great, you're married,

625
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: and then if somebody left, a few years would go

626
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: by and one guess not coming back. Can you marry

627
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: someone else, like you just you did not have all

628
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 1: of this hullabaloo about it, and so it's so funny

629
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Speaker 1: that we create a marriage for legal reasons. Literally, we

630
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: were like, who do you want to leave your it too?

631
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Speaker 1: And that is it. They added some religious stuff and

632
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: now it's this sacred institution, but that's really just to

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Speaker 1: get you to spent sixty dollars on your part. Well,

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Speaker 1: and then yeah, there's these people that are like, well,

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Speaker 1: we were okay with the law existing, we don't want

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Speaker 1: to see it enforced, but then why have it? Then

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Speaker 1: why have it a Well, it's it's the same on

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Speaker 1: both sides, because the pro lgbt Q movements were saying,

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Speaker 1: I know you're not enforcing this law, but just having

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Speaker 1: it on the books is oppressing us. It's giving people

641
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Speaker 1: the firepower and the ammunition the foundation to say, but

642
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Speaker 1: what you're doing is wrong technically illegally. I know we're

643
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: not enforcing it, but I know I'm learning that it

644
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Speaker 1: says right there in the law that your existence is wrong.

645
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: And the people who were like, keep the law of

646
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Speaker 1: the books, just don't enforce it feel the same way.

647
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Speaker 1: They're like, I love to be able to point to

648
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Speaker 1: the books and say I know that I can't to you,

649
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: but I know that legally you're wrong, I guess to me.

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Speaker 1: My immediate thought was that I will. I do want

651
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Speaker 1: it to be selectively enforced. There are certain people that

652
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: I would like you to use this law again. It's

653
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Speaker 1: there if I need it exactly, exactly definitely. UM. So

654
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: maybe it's it's probably you're right, and it's a combination

655
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: of both, but more consciously it's probably that I just

656
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: like to be able to say you're wrong and I

657
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: know it. New York Times says that Singapore is quote

658
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: famously known as a nanny state, and the government often

659
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: interferes and even small aspects of people's personal lives, so

660
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: they have strict and aggressive punishments for things like minor

661
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: drug possession that, for example, we in America are increasingly decriminalized. Um.

662
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Speaker 1: There are a lot of strict conservative religious action groups

663
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Speaker 1: that have been pushing for three seven seven A to

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Speaker 1: not only stay on the books, but to be more

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Speaker 1: aggressively enforced. And meanwhile, l g B t Q community

666
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: groups have been celebrating the repeal but pushing back about

667
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: this idea of the amendment, saying, quote, we urged the

668
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Speaker 1: government not to heed recent calls from religious conservatives to

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Speaker 1: enshrine the definition of marriage into the constitution. Such a

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00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: decision will undermine the secular character of our constitution, codify

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00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: further discrimination into supreme law, and tie the hands of

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Speaker 1: future parliament. Right right, very good point. Absolutely putting it

673
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: right there into the constitution is going to make things

674
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Speaker 1: very hard, Doneline, which of course I assume is the point.

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00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: It's kind of like putting like into your constitution, like

676
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: we abolish slavery except for punishment of a crime. It's

677
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: almost like when you do that, you sort of create

678
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Speaker 1: a criminal class for yourself so that you'll have a

679
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: lot of free labor. I don't know, just sit balling.

680
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: It's like a totally hypothetical. Yeah, I can't imagine anyone's

681
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: ever done that. Um yeah, that's that's really tough that

682
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: they're going through that, because it is it's got to

683
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: be such a what dichotomous moment. You're are very excited

684
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: and also like, oh, but that's a big step back too,

685
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: because if it was just like we're gonna decriminalize homosexuality

686
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 1: and we're not gonna allow gay marriage yet, that's one

687
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: thing and that already kind of sucks. You're like, you're

688
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 1: this close, just do the whole thing. But they said,

689
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: and we're specifically going to write down that you can

690
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Speaker 1: never get married. YEA, let's just get ahead of this

691
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: and stop you before you can even start. That sucks.

692
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: That does suck. What I guess, I'm glad that people

693
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: will not be getting blackmailed and arrested and so on,

694
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: because I think we did learn that a little bit

695
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: too about the British law was that it was really

696
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: just used to blackmail people. Um a lot of the time.

697
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: It was not enforced unless you were like, I can

698
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: go tell the cops about you, so give me what

699
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: I want, right, So, still a long way to go

700
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Speaker 1: for the LGBTQ community in Singapore and the world over,

701
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure, yeah, but but a big step forward also,

702
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: like one really good thing that we're all are excited about.

703
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: Keep the triumphs in there, yeah, absolutely for sure. Well,

704
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: we've got one more story to tell, and it's got

705
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: a big old dick in it, so let's take a

706
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Speaker 1: quick commercial break and come back and deal with that.

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Speaker 1: All right, Welcome back to the show. This is such

708
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Speaker 1: a fun story. I have it Parana since us this

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, So thank you, Parana. I ken looking out

710
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 1: for us on our Getting Bag episode events. So we're

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Speaker 1: going to take you to the small town of Missantla

712
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Speaker 1: in the eastern state of Vera Cruz in Mexico, where

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Speaker 1: a woman named Katerina or Duna Perez recently passed away

714
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: at nine years Vice reports that she grew up in poverty.

715
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: She never attended school, but through hard work and determination,

716
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Speaker 1: she became an influential person in Missantla, with politicians often

717
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Speaker 1: making a point to like stop by and court her

718
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 1: and talk to her and a game with her because

719
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: they knew how much clout she had. They're like, I

720
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Speaker 1: got you wanna you wanna be somebody in Massantla. You

721
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: gotta get Donya Katarina on your side. Yea. And throughout

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00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: her life she made a point to tell her children,

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Speaker 1: her grandchildren, and her great grandchildren how special they could

724
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Speaker 1: be and how they could accomplish anything they set their

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00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: minds to. Her grandson Alvaro mote Lemon told Vice quote,

726
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: she always said, in the Mexican sense that we were

727
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: very gas vigas. That's beautiful. I love this Vergas. That's

728
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: one of those words that just it seems to me,

729
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: just makes me think I never took Spanish. But it's

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Speaker 1: it's lovely. I love this word. Let's let's read on here.

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Speaker 1: Let's see. Virgas is a slang word in Mexico that

732
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: it can apparently translate a few different ways in English.

733
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Speaker 1: The word that it's closest to is cock. How all right,

734
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: but that's a bold word, Grandma, call me a dick today.

735
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: Is a big dick today. But that's not the only meaning.

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Speaker 1: Virgas can also be used to tell people to go

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Speaker 1: funk themselves, La viga, remember that one. If I really

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Speaker 1: want to get into a fight in Mexico, I'll remember

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00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: that one. Well, don't forget. You can also tell them

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Speaker 1: that they ain't ship by saying valas virga viga. But

741
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: something called virga can also mean cool or badass, and

742
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: don't you Katarina always meant it like that. She referred

743
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: to her family as virgas to mean that they had

744
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: moral strength than fortitude, or that they had, as Alvaro

745
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 1: told Vice, quote, integrity, courage, passion, and at the same

746
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: time love and joy just like a dick, a lot

747
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: like a penis. Yeah, that's what I think of integrity, courage, fortitude, passion,

748
00:46:55,600 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: love and joy, and maybe stubbornness occasionally uh misguidance. Well,

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Speaker 1: Alvaro points out that yes, yes, stick in your head

750
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Speaker 1: where it don't belong, sometimes like a like a buffalo's nostril. Well,

751
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: Alvaro points out that in a country quote steeped in machismo,

752
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: she managed to instill enough Big Vargas energy into her

753
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: family that a lot of them went onto wide ranging careers,

754
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 1: like Alvaro's sister got her doctorate degree, and Alvara himself

755
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: completed two master's degrees and was even mayor of Missantla

756
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: for a while. How do you think he courted Donya Katarina.

757
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 1: He had to come over, bring some cookies and grandma.

758
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: He's like, hello, I'm the only virga running. So now,

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00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: over the years, Donya Katarina told her family and the

760
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: people of Missancla that when she died, she wanted her

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00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 1: tomb adorned with a giant penis. She's like a bold, spunky,

762
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: playful kind of woman. So Alvaro and most people thought

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00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: it was just a joke. Donia Katza making her dick

764
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 1: jokes again, but then close to her death. Alvaro asked

765
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: her about it again. He's like, do you really mean that,

766
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: because now we're actually planning, you know, is that just joke?

767
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: And he told Vice that she explained, quote, it was

768
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: her desire so that no one would forget her and

769
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: that everything we loved about her would be remembered more easily.

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00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: She's not wrong about that. It'll be hard to forget

771
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: a lady with this this monument, for sure, I love.

772
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: She's like, oh no, I meant that ship. They all

773
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 1: thought it was joking. No, no, no, no, I don't

774
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: joke about That's one thing I'm extremely always been serious,

775
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: and it tracked with her personality. She was quote always

776
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: very avant, hard, very forward thinking about things. She wanted

777
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: to break the paradigm of everything Mexican, where things are

778
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: sometimes hidden because of not having an open mind. That

779
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: was again Alvaro talking to Vice, which I think is

780
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: interesting because if if if they're one of their definitions

781
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: of Virga is cool or badass, that kind of makes sense.

782
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 1: It tracks if you're dicks are cool. Well, she's clearly

783
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: like the cool, funky punk rock grandma, you know, like

784
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: cool grandma. She seemed like a real just up minded,

785
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 1: like down for the party, definitely make a Dick jokes,

786
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: which I love. I love seeing that was when in

787
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: someone who had kind of a limited life and always

788
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,919
Speaker 1: lived in a small town and like maybe didn't see

789
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: that much of the world, but for like, for some reason,

790
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 1: they just have this expanse, you know, this this ability

791
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: to take it all in and and really enjoy enjoy life,

792
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: you know. So anyway, after she passed away on January one,

793
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: Alvaro says, quote, we talked as a family and decided

794
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: to make her dream come true. What a family meeting that,

795
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 1: all right, We got to meet about the giant Dicks statue.

796
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 1: Grandma want all right, everybody, I've got two jars here,

797
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: Dick or no Dick. Everybody just put a slip of

798
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: paper in one or the other, and we're going to

799
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: count them anonymous voting, yeah, if you want to keep

800
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: your name off. And they're like, oh my god. It

801
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: was unanimous for But of course now they're dealing with

802
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: the logistics of it. Who out there could construct this

803
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 1: giant Dick statue. Alvaro called a local engineer named Cedro Lavonier,

804
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: who builds plastic products like water tanks, or children's play sets,

805
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: and he made a request and hey, um, can you

806
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: put the kids toys down and build me a giant penis?

807
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: Make me a grandma's toy? Uh huh, Cidro. Of course

808
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: he thought it was a joke to quote, because it's

809
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: not very common to see these kinds of sculptures or monuments,

810
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: and even less so in the memory of someone who's deceased.

811
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: Nobody asked for giant dicks to be constructed out of

812
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: plastic products, but Alvaro persisted. He told him, no, I'm

813
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: dead serious, we really want this dick grave. And finally

814
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 1: a Sedro was convinced because, after all, quote Donya Kata

815
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: was someone who broke taboos. I wonder how many messages

816
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,439
Speaker 1: he had to leave. Yeah, he was like, no, hello,

817
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: this is it's me again. I'm very serious. Is not

818
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: a kid magan prank call? I really need to know.

819
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: So is Cedro got to work alongside. This was not

820
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: a one person job. He needed a carpenter, a sander,

821
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Speaker 1: a sculptor, and a carver to build this statue. Vice

822
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 1: says quote. They got particularly delayed on the ball sack

823
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: when the first attempt was disfigured and they had to

824
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: start the process again. Yeah, he's like, no disfigured testicles

825
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: for Dona Kata. Is Cedro explained that they had to

826
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: melt down materials quote to give it the necessary amplitude

827
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: so that the testicles could be formed. I made some

828
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: bulk for this ball. So finally, on July two, more

829
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Speaker 1: than a year later, the completed monument was mounted to

830
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: Donna Katta's tomb and unveiled a five and a half

831
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Speaker 1: foot tall, shiny pink cock and balls weighing nearly six

832
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: hundred pounds in quote, recognition of her love and joy

833
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: for life. I mean, look, if I don't know her,

834
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk back, walk by that grave and think

835
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 1: it's in recognition of her love and joy for dicks. Hey,

836
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: maybe she had that. She did love dicks. I mean,

837
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: clearly she had some respect for the date. She had

838
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: a lot of respect to the date. And of course

839
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: this immediately went viral. I mean, you don't see a

840
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: five and a half foot tall pink and not take

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Speaker 1: a picture of probably in the story floating around there,

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Speaker 1: um is Cedro received some interesting new commission. He got

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Speaker 1: a request from a family of a guy who had

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Speaker 1: worked for years in the construction industry for a gravestone

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Speaker 1: shaped like a dump trap. So new new, new, novelty

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Speaker 1: gravestone business for this guy. But of course, you know,

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Speaker 1: plenty of people don't appreciate seeing a giant penis out

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Speaker 1: of nowhere. Alvaro told Vice, quote, of every ten people,

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Speaker 1: I think that around seven see it positively. And if

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Speaker 1: they don't see it as a good thing, they at

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Speaker 1: least respect Donya katsis wishes. There are others who, in

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Speaker 1: their conservative values, are very closed minded, very square, who

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Speaker 1: see it poorly. Um, I like, he's like these squares

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Speaker 1: old loved It's how old are you get your life right?

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Speaker 1: But as Vice reports, the family had discussed that ahead

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Speaker 1: of time, probably when they made their unanimous jar decision,

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Speaker 1: and they were prepared for any criticism or amount of backlash.

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Speaker 1: To respect Donna Katarina's wishes, They're like, well, go through

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Speaker 1: it for her. We don't care. Vice concludes, quote, after all,

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Speaker 1: the family is made up of gas bowls. They don't

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Speaker 1: mind resting their way into the new world. They're like,

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Speaker 1: no matter what happens, we will remain turgient. That's right.

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Speaker 1: What a story. It's so and it's worth bull Look

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Speaker 1: for sure that the pictures are very amazing. If you

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Speaker 1: didn't know what was there would definitely be a surprise

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Speaker 1: amongst all the angels with like trumpets, you know, like,

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Speaker 1: wait a second, what's that in the distance? Did they

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Speaker 1: know that that looks exactly like a big dick? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Do we we fixed the balls? In fact? Well, I'm

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00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: thinking about Victor Noir his like small pants bulge that

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Speaker 1: people lose their minds over what's going to happen to

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Speaker 1: this dick? Okay, And it's like thrusting vertically into the air.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, you could see people do a pole

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Speaker 1: dance on that. They could do all eyes of things. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I love it. You know, the world is a fucking playgrounds.

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00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: You know. People need to treat it as such. I

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Speaker 1: have some damn fun stuff being so serious. Let people

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Speaker 1: live their lives and go and enjoy yourself, you know, yeah,

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00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: let them mark their deaths however they want. Yeah. But

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Speaker 1: across all three of these stories, you know, it's really

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00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,919
Speaker 1: about uh what you know, let people in their lives,

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00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: whether it's kids, are not support people no matter what

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00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: they're going through. Uh, Let people be themselves. Let people

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00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: have fun so much. The opposition too, especially these last

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00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,959
Speaker 1: two stories, is people just trying to step on someone

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00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: else's good time. Yeah, And when you're looking at the

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00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,479
Speaker 1: when you're looking at like the net human experience people

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00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: are having collectively, like all of us together, why you're

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00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,439
Speaker 1: not contributing to a positive for everyone else you see

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Speaker 1: is outrageous to me totally. And like you said, I mean,

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00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: this is such a weird world. Yeah, we're weird. Like,

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Speaker 1: if it's really not harming anybody, let me have my

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Speaker 1: fun for real, for real. Well, it was cool to

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Speaker 1: kind of get some world news. Yeah, definite news. Going

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Speaker 1: thinks again to Sean and Pana for sending those links along,

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Speaker 1: definitely like, oh we got a real good gutty bag.

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Speaker 1: That's a good one. Thank you all for tuning in,

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Speaker 1: and please send us more of these if you come

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Speaker 1: across these stories, because sometimes they'll be a full episode

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Speaker 1: and sometimes they fit perfectly right in. Sometimes you can

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Speaker 1: just slip them in right here, the perfect size for

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Speaker 1: some some nice carnal intercourse against nature. You know, you

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Speaker 1: know how we do over here on Ridiculous Romance. Yeah,

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