Speaker 1: Hey everyone, It's Story and Anissa and this is MTV's
Speaker 1: official Challenge podcast. Today we are joined by an incredible competitor.
Speaker 1: You may know her from winning The Inferno or her
Speaker 1: time on All Stars one and two. Kenda Darnell is
Speaker 1: joining us today. Yes, and I'm so glad that we
Speaker 1: were able to have her on to talk about the offseason,
Speaker 1: the devastating injury that she faced that ended her run
Speaker 1: on All Stars too, and training for the Challenge with
Speaker 1: her sons. And she takes a few shots and Anissa,
Speaker 1: so you're jesus, I knew you were going to say that.
Speaker 1: Want to listen. I'm wounded. I'm wounded, folks, I'm bleeding out.
Speaker 1: I hope you guys enjoy this interview with Kendall's all right, guys,
Speaker 1: we are so excited because this week we finally have
Speaker 1: on the podcast the woman who originated on Road Rules
Speaker 1: Campus Crawl. She was on The Inferno, All Stars one,
Speaker 1: All Stars to everybody, please welcome Kendall dar Now you show.
Speaker 1: I'm excited. I am. Yeah. It's something that I've been
Speaker 1: wanting to do, um but I guess it just never
Speaker 1: really worked out. We're gonna nickname this called Clear in
Speaker 1: the Air with Kendall. Oh, that should be like a
Speaker 1: like a side side one where you get to talk
Speaker 1: about all things Kendall and everything that wasn't aired, and
Speaker 1: you know if you were at the reunion what you
Speaker 1: would have said. But we can get into that a
Speaker 1: little bit later. What have you been up to since
Speaker 1: you left All Stars Too? Oh? Gosh, um, it feels
Speaker 1: like it was years ago, but I mean that was
Speaker 1: still less than a year ago. Six months ago, I think. Um,
Speaker 1: I had to quit my nursing job actually to go
Speaker 1: on All Stars Too, So um, well, I mean I quit,
Speaker 1: I say in quotes, because my manager said she'd hire
Speaker 1: me back as soon as I came back, but she couldn't.
Speaker 1: She couldn't give me the time off because I did
Speaker 1: have any more PTOM. But when I came back, I
Speaker 1: was having some help issues and spent some time with
Speaker 1: my family, and then there's health stuff going on there.
Speaker 1: So I feel like I've kind of been nursing at
Speaker 1: home and currently like thinking of going back, but every
Speaker 1: time I go to apply for a new job, just
Speaker 1: something else happens in the home. So I'm kind of
Speaker 1: homebound right now, nursing from here and now we have
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's a black Lab mix and she's so adorable. Um,
Speaker 1: but I did not want a puppy. I want a dog,
Speaker 1: but I didn't want to have to train a puppy.
Speaker 1: But but here we are, yeah, and we love her
Speaker 1: and I am sleep deprived. And so he's had another kid.
Speaker 1: Basically yeah, wow, well at least you have you have
Speaker 1: a coach at home, right, your son, coach Cooper. We
Speaker 1: saw you having that conversation with him on All Stars too.
Speaker 1: Have you been training with him again? He is so wonderful. Um? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he's always well. Now Graham's in on it too.
Speaker 1: M Where If Graham wants me to do something and
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I don't think we're going to do
Speaker 1: that today, He's like, mom, here's the challenge, okay, and
Speaker 1: something else. Lay it out. Whatever it is that he
Speaker 1: wants to do. Is thinking, if it's a challenge, I'll
Speaker 1: do it. It's pretty funny. Not a bad pitch, is he.
Speaker 1: Is there any online coaching coming in the future for
Speaker 1: him for like the rest of us, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: you know, I really really should. He has a YouTube channel,
Speaker 1: but I won't let him make it public. Well, you
Speaker 1: gotta do what you gotta do. As a mom, I
Speaker 1: don't play. What what are some of the challenges that
Speaker 1: they ask you to do? Oh my gosh, well, I
Speaker 1: mean there's there's battles. Graham always wants to have battles
Speaker 1: where he's like the big bosson or's a cape and
Speaker 1: we throw fire at each other and you know, so
Speaker 1: if you could go on for hours. So finally I'm like, Graham, no,
Speaker 1: we're done for today, and he's like, okay, but Mom,
Speaker 1: this is the challenge. Now you're up against the big boss.
Speaker 1: Have to do it if you're gonna win. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: he's he'll be six in March, so cute, funny night.
Speaker 1: And then Cooper is always he's the coach. Coach, Coop,
Speaker 1: he's got um. They've been making YouTube videos on how
Speaker 1: to play soccer, um, how to play Minecraft. So lots
Speaker 1: of how too is we can we can share with
Speaker 1: you privately. Okay, we'll find that out after this. I
Speaker 1: do want to know something about the season. You had
Speaker 1: to leave early rib injury during what was it called
Speaker 1: deep dive I think that's what it was called. How
Speaker 1: How did you feel? How did that happen? Did you
Speaker 1: have to go to the the hospital when you got home?
Speaker 1: Like was there? What happened? So? Um, yeah, I had
Speaker 1: a rib injury. Only it was after well, during that
Speaker 1: trampoline challenge. I can't remember what they call that one,
Speaker 1: but it was gnarly like everyone was getting injured and Melinda,
Speaker 1: I swear she had a concussion. She was like vomiting.
Speaker 1: It was quite scary. We call it tramp a spleen
Speaker 1: because everyone got their spleen tramped, No, not tramped when
Speaker 1: my body gets tramped, tramped with lash like counter action
Speaker 1: with the brain. It was awful, but it was so
Speaker 1: much fun, and that's the that's the problem. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, then it gets to be your turn. You've
Speaker 1: watched all these people like take spills, and you're like, uh,
Speaker 1: maybe I can do better, and like because I really
Speaker 1: want to do it. It's fun. But everybody, you know,
Speaker 1: was just hitting the water so hard, and so I
Speaker 1: took a hard fall after the second you know, there's
Speaker 1: like three blocks that we had to grab and pull
Speaker 1: down in the second jump, I ended up falling to
Speaker 1: my right and I just hit straight on my ribs
Speaker 1: and it freaking hurt. And I thought in my brain,
Speaker 1: like the quick flashes were going off, and I thought,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I bet I've punctured along because my
Speaker 1: ribs do just like hate and so I couldn't get
Speaker 1: deep breaths. It was having a really hard time. So
Speaker 1: cut to you know, the parts of the episode the
Speaker 1: next episode when I'm talking about my ribs being out
Speaker 1: of place and all of that. So I did go
Speaker 1: to the hospital. M kind of checked me out, did
Speaker 1: some X rays. I actually asked for the X rays.
Speaker 1: I have those and and they said, you know, they
Speaker 1: were fine. I heard some fops before I got there,
Speaker 1: so I'm pretty sure they were put back in, but
Speaker 1: they were definitely bruised all along the bottom. So I
Speaker 1: was a little nervous because they said that I couldn't
Speaker 1: do any physical activity for forty eight hours. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I gonna send me home when I
Speaker 1: could be ready in forty eight hours. But luckily I
Speaker 1: was not voted into elimination that next day and we
Speaker 1: had a day off after that, so hallelujah, I was safe.
Speaker 1: But then we passed. It was some NOE and then
Speaker 1: I took a good jump off of that and again
Speaker 1: hurt myself and only not my lower ribs. It was
Speaker 1: like upper clavical rib, shoulder area and um, and that
Speaker 1: I couldn't do like a full push up for like
Speaker 1: six weeks. It took oh god, but I wasn't but
Speaker 1: they checked me out and it was fine. It was
Speaker 1: and I could compete. So um. So that because there
Speaker 1: wasn't a push up challenge, right, and if you wanted
Speaker 1: to practice yoga what you love doing, yeah, it's great
Speaker 1: for for somebody like me. If you have an injured
Speaker 1: body part, then you just don't use that, don't do
Speaker 1: poses with that body part. So I can shift and
Speaker 1: still work out and just do lower body or something.
Speaker 1: Just no chatarangas. So which fucks. I know that's where
Speaker 1: you get the cardio ass I know, but then then
Speaker 1: you get really strong legs and butt because you're avoiding
Speaker 1: chatarangas anyway. So um So then that night after this
Speaker 1: snote thing, we went we were dragging to go to
Speaker 1: the party and bus had to turn around and producer
Speaker 1: stepped on and said, we're going to send you off
Speaker 1: to the hotel and quarantine. And then at the hotel
Speaker 1: is the only cast number to turn up positive? Wow?
Speaker 1: That sucks? Wow? So I can only imagine somebody as
Speaker 1: competitive as you and somebody who got so far in
Speaker 1: All Stars one, like you were right there. You should
Speaker 1: have gone to the final, Like it was a huge
Speaker 1: upset that you didn't go in my mind, because you
Speaker 1: had put in so much work that season. And then
Speaker 1: obviously you come back and now you have to leave
Speaker 1: the game early, Like does it leave you feeling like
Speaker 1: you have unfinished business? Do you want to go back
Speaker 1: on All Stars if you get the opportunity? Absolutely well.
Speaker 1: Season one I never thought I could win, like it
Speaker 1: was one winner, and I had been wanting to go back,
Speaker 1: like for years just to see you, like, do can
Speaker 1: I still do it? You know? And so Season one
Speaker 1: for me was primarily like can I do it? Just
Speaker 1: for the experience? And so I went. I had the experience,
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, you know, yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: I guess they can, and especially because like roller coasters
Speaker 1: scare me so like, but then when you go and
Speaker 1: do these challenges, it's it's just different, and so um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got the experience and I was I was happy
Speaker 1: with that. Then getting the invite to All Stars too,
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know if I should do it,
Speaker 1: and I thought, well, maybe I should just try and
Speaker 1: see if I can win this time. Like, if I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go, I'm gonna win. Because you know, it's hard
Speaker 1: to take time off of work. I had to quit
Speaker 1: my job and time away from the kids. It was
Speaker 1: longer filming. So it was like, oh, gosh, am I
Speaker 1: being responsible if I quit my job and go do this?
Speaker 1: So if I'm gonna do it, like I need to win,
Speaker 1: it has to be Yeah. So yes, I had all
Speaker 1: my eggs in that basket and thought, if I can
Speaker 1: come home the grand Pride, get kids a trampoline, everyone
Speaker 1: will be happy. Yeah. And and then it was just
Speaker 1: I felt like the rug was just pulled out from
Speaker 1: underneath me. Oh gosh, it was so I was devastated. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that does seem like a lot to deal with, especially
Speaker 1: like with what happened on the first season. I mean,
Speaker 1: you were really close. Did you think that Nia and
Speaker 1: I was going to call you in to that last elimination?
Speaker 1: I well, you know, it was it was tough, you know,
Speaker 1: like you were praying it was gonna be me, but
Speaker 1: it's I was praying, I know it should an elimination, beast,
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't have been Oh my god. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: was climbing over those little cart things like it was
Speaker 1: nothing like unbelievable. I mean, yeah, so you are jo Handle,
Speaker 1: you are too. I think it could have gone either
Speaker 1: way like I think it was. It shouldn't have on
Speaker 1: we should have won. We should have won. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: just topped right up there, you know, like in a
Speaker 1: perfect world, I'm like, Okay, we'll hurt me a mile
Speaker 1: will just like I mean, I love easy too, So
Speaker 1: it's just hard because somebody has to win, somebody has
Speaker 1: to go home. And to be honest, from a strategic
Speaker 1: point of you, you were the first girl that was
Speaker 1: done the mini final, so it's like you're one of
Speaker 1: those like sleepers. Like I know, people people know that
Speaker 1: you're good at stuff, but I don't think they really
Speaker 1: know how good you are locked in and enduring things
Speaker 1: Like I don't know. I always say this with every
Speaker 1: mother that comes on the show. If you can have kids,
Speaker 1: you could do anything. So yeah, I'm not putting ship
Speaker 1: past you. Plus you can move your body in ways
Speaker 1: that other people can. Yeah yeah yeah, and you you
Speaker 1: just stayed active. I mean, like that whole first season
Speaker 1: they talk about how Kendall does six hours of yoga
Speaker 1: a day. I'm like maybe ten. We'd look at the windows, Kendall,
Speaker 1: she's probably in the garden doing yoga. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it was a beautiful place to practice. I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: it was in your backyard where the sun was coming up,
Speaker 1: and oh my gosh, it's amazing. I tried to draw
Speaker 1: it because you know, we don't have cameras, so I
Speaker 1: was like, I need to capture this moment, so I
Speaker 1: tried to draw it. I'm not an artist, but a
Speaker 1: little doodle. Yeah. I just think it's so interesting, you know,
Speaker 1: because you get robbed of getting the opportunity to go
Speaker 1: into elimination the second time, and you would have gone
Speaker 1: into elimination with Latian and had to wrestle Jasin in
Speaker 1: a pole wrestle. How do you think you would have done.
Speaker 1: I don't think it would have been pole wrestle. M
Speaker 1: I don't think it would have. We had just had
Speaker 1: a hurricane and it wiped out a bunch of stuff
Speaker 1: and they had to redo a whole bunch of things
Speaker 1: in the home. They the arena was kind of in shambles,
Speaker 1: so and I was told that they had something underneath
Speaker 1: the tarp, so I think probably probably not over that pole.
Speaker 1: We don't want them to see anything. And now this
Speaker 1: is all my own speculation because I think I'm a detective.
Speaker 1: I think it was supposed to be something else. And
Speaker 1: I got it because when I talked to producer and
Speaker 1: he's like, Okay, you're done, I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: this's not how it ends. And and then I was
Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, what about Laterian? Is he
Speaker 1: gonna have to go home and go I don't know
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. I don't know. I like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: So I think they had to come up with something.
Speaker 1: I know they have to, Like, they have things set
Speaker 1: out the way that they're supposed to go, and they
Speaker 1: follow that plan so that it's not, you know, favored
Speaker 1: to anybody. But um, but in situations like a natural disaster,
Speaker 1: I would think that there has to be a backup, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I throw a pole in there, easy, easy to build,
Speaker 1: bring a pole, all right, come in and draws us
Speaker 1: a circle? Yes, scat a river. I don't think it
Speaker 1: would have been me and jazz and pull wrestling, but um,
Speaker 1: if I had to pull wrestle Jasmine, I'm happy that
Speaker 1: it was someone my size that as opposed to you know,
Speaker 1: I needs to threatening to pull wrestle me and Sally.
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you have to say about that?
Speaker 1: I would have said it about every single girl there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because being the being the first woman to ever do
Speaker 1: it and having to do it over and over again
Speaker 1: in different ways, like it becomes not natural. But you're
Speaker 1: less afraid of those like situations. I think my confidence
Speaker 1: would have just gotten me there to be like, what's up?
Speaker 1: What's going to go on? I mean, you and I
Speaker 1: have a completely different we have completely different bodies. I
Speaker 1: have a lot more weight on you, so that would
Speaker 1: help me. But you also can like contort your body,
Speaker 1: which maybe messed up for me where I can't, you know,
Speaker 1: do certain things. I'd punch you straight in the couter.
Speaker 1: I'm playing shut up. I don't where are you like
Speaker 1: a bump dirty? But I'm playing dirty and he's a
Speaker 1: I would never die there? Would? I said? We die together?
Speaker 1: You want to rebat? No went again? So Kendall, I
Speaker 1: want to know did you enjoy two more than one?
Speaker 1: One more than two? The people the place tell me? Um,
Speaker 1: you know it's it's kind of split. I loved I
Speaker 1: loved season two. I love the dynamic of season two. Um,
Speaker 1: I felt better. I just felt better understood, I should say, Um,
Speaker 1: I love the house of season one. Season two's house
Speaker 1: is pretty cool too. Um. I loved being out of
Speaker 1: the drama in season two, where I just felt like
Speaker 1: it was in a hot eat all the time in
Speaker 1: season one, and I mean I dread. My adrenaline was
Speaker 1: just going all the time. It was like fight or
Speaker 1: flight mode NonStop. Yeah, and then my dream glands were
Speaker 1: completely depleted after season one, like like lock me in
Speaker 1: a cage, put on some Netflix uber, eats ice cream
Speaker 1: every day. I believe I have. Everybody is like that
Speaker 1: after a show. I think, even if you're not associated
Speaker 1: with the drama a lot, it's like, how do you
Speaker 1: not decompress after going through that? Yea, even though I'm
Speaker 1: just competing, you know, it's so stressful. But All Stars
Speaker 1: too definitely seem like it was a step and knocked
Speaker 1: up as far as intensity goes. Do you think that
Speaker 1: the All Stars seasons will continue to get more intense
Speaker 1: if there is another season? Yes, I like that. I'm
Speaker 1: loving All Stars. I don't Jenny was making fun of
Speaker 1: remember on when we did our whatever charades, thing about people,
Speaker 1: and she was choosing me about wanting to give everybody
Speaker 1: a participation trophy. Yeah, yes, yes, what I would like
Speaker 1: to do. So if I mean you played season two
Speaker 1: differently or at least had a different experience. If there
Speaker 1: is another season, do you think you'll play the game differently? Um,
Speaker 1: I mean I think probably everything we do in life,
Speaker 1: we do it, evaluate it, try to change a little bit,
Speaker 1: keep what we want, ditch what we don't, and and
Speaker 1: go forward. And so that's what you know, I try
Speaker 1: to do. I what's tough, and I mean you guys
Speaker 1: would know better than I would, But is that it's
Speaker 1: not the same dynamic each time. It's not the same
Speaker 1: challenges each time. It's not so one strategy. If you
Speaker 1: change it too much, you might just be screwing yourself
Speaker 1: one of my you're trying the wrong strategy with the
Speaker 1: wrong people or the right strategy, you know. So it's tricky.
Speaker 1: I've done a plan. I've literally done that everything at
Speaker 1: the time. No, like literally like I feel like one
Speaker 1: season I'll go on, I either make it to the
Speaker 1: final or I go home really early. It's like that's
Speaker 1: my that's my record. I've type of girl, it's all
Speaker 1: or nothing. Yet I've done six challenges, made three finals
Speaker 1: and gone home early three times, like and it's because
Speaker 1: I've applied bad strategies to those three times. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: it's like you're right, it's it's hit or miss because
Speaker 1: it's do you gel? Do you gel with the flow
Speaker 1: of this new season or no? And that's just what
Speaker 1: it comes down. I think a sumo suit or a
Speaker 1: body cast might be a good thing to bring with
Speaker 1: you the next time, or maybe a cloak of invisibility
Speaker 1: or like something that would keep you safe, or like
Speaker 1: a whole bag of Doritos and like, hey, vote me in,
Speaker 1: but you don't get any Doritos. I just want your
Speaker 1: body to be safe. So let's see the full potential.
Speaker 1: You know. As much as yeah, I don't want to
Speaker 1: see you in a final, I also that's just that's
Speaker 1: clearly a compliment. You're you're good, and I think it
Speaker 1: would be it'd be cool to see what happens if
Speaker 1: you get there and when you do, like what you're
Speaker 1: actually capable of doing right. And I'm not as confident,
Speaker 1: I think, as other people are in me, because I
Speaker 1: know how my body falls apart. It can be cold
Speaker 1: in the final. I know that it cannot be cold.
Speaker 1: We cannot swim in cold water. Those are the only
Speaker 1: two things. If the Challenge gods are listening, Yeah, Kendall's
Speaker 1: Final cannot have those two components, right, neither can mind,
Speaker 1: So don't worry. I don't want that either. John A
Speaker 1: and MJ. Obviously when the entire thing they killed it.
Speaker 1: But everybody who competed in the final put up such
Speaker 1: a great fight. Yeah, who were you rooting for before
Speaker 1: you left the game to win the entire thing? Oh? Man, Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean it changed. It was like,
Speaker 1: you know. I would talk to John A in the hotel.
Speaker 1: I wish they would film us like when we're quarantining,
Speaker 1: because there was a lot of like gameplay strategizing, and
Speaker 1: I was I wanted john A to do well because
Speaker 1: I really liked her in season one. Um, so I
Speaker 1: was really excited to see her doing so well. But
Speaker 1: then I got to know so many wonderful people. I
Speaker 1: got really close with Janelle we Um. I would see
Speaker 1: her in the morning, she would do her jog. I
Speaker 1: would try to jog in the stand with her. I
Speaker 1: could not. I could not. Um, running is not my thing.
Speaker 1: My joints don't like that. You'd never know though. No,
Speaker 1: and people think I'm a runner, and I don't correct
Speaker 1: them because and I let them think it. But really
Speaker 1: stranded that in the Mini challenge on season one. Um,
Speaker 1: I didn't. The only reason why I did well was
Speaker 1: because Luterian I did so good at that puzzle. If
Speaker 1: we didn't have that lead, I could not run. I
Speaker 1: tried to run coming down the hill, and I kept
Speaker 1: cramping up because my bones, like my joints in my bones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't run. I tried a couple times and it hurt,
Speaker 1: and so I just sang Bohemian Rhapsody like over and
Speaker 1: over all the way down and talked to the camera
Speaker 1: guy who was running next to me that we didn't
Speaker 1: finish that puzzle. Yeah, it ran down hand in hand,
Speaker 1: was cold. Have found a branch and tethered each other. Yeah, die,
Speaker 1: it's fine, Canada. What what move were you? What move,
Speaker 1: whether it be physical or strategic? Are you most proud
Speaker 1: of making on all starts too, even though you weren't
Speaker 1: there for so long. What impact do you feel like
Speaker 1: you had on the game. I mean, I was proud
Speaker 1: I was able to lay low that was nice. That
Speaker 1: was my strategy in season one and that didn't work,
Speaker 1: not at all, so trying to apply it to season two, actually,
Speaker 1: I was like I came like fist ready, like okay,
Speaker 1: I'm ready to fight, and then people were really nice
Speaker 1: to me, and it's like, oh, okay, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: enjoy the ride. However, I did. M Casey called me
Speaker 1: a bitch, and I was I was quite proud of that,
Speaker 1: because that means you've got like some gusto, right, and
Speaker 1: so I like that. I like that. I think that reasoning,
Speaker 1: you know, keep calling me a bitch because it means
Speaker 1: I have gusto. A really awesome way of looking at it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was quite flattered, Like really I love that for
Speaker 1: you too. You don't go off as a bit as
Speaker 1: at all to me, Like I mean, I obviously i've
Speaker 1: never lived with you, we've never met in person, but
Speaker 1: watching you on the show both seasons, like I almost
Speaker 1: was like, wow, I can't believe that there's this much animosity,
Speaker 1: which seemed to be animosity to you. So for somebody
Speaker 1: to call you, I mean, this is an outsider looking
Speaker 1: in you know what I mean. We don't know each
Speaker 1: other personally, but right, you come off so genuine and sweet.
Speaker 1: It's because I was trying. I was talking with Steve
Speaker 1: and Steve and Katie, you know, we're like shooting on
Speaker 1: season two for a quick minute, and so I was
Speaker 1: trying to just like figure out where his head was.
Speaker 1: I try to like mediate and bring people together, and
Speaker 1: so I was talking with him and Casey was just
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just couldn't feel like I could
Speaker 1: totally trust Casey and she was just sort of walking slow,
Speaker 1: like listening in on our conversation. So I just turned
Speaker 1: to her. I said, Casey, can I help you? And
Speaker 1: she's like, sorry, you're being such a bitch. And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, okay, okay something. Well, you know what,
Speaker 1: I love that you you took it and you owned
Speaker 1: it and you're proud of it. I think that's really
Speaker 1: interesting and not what I was expecting to hear at all. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Are you somebody who enjoys the time and the challenge
Speaker 1: house or is it hard to live with that with
Speaker 1: that many people? Do you like look to leave and
Speaker 1: like find your own space? Yes? Yeah, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1: I well I need um. I Yeah, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get better with like boundaries because I tend to carry
Speaker 1: other people's stuff with me. Yeah, and so I seek
Speaker 1: like these moments of you know, connecting with the earth
Speaker 1: and yoga and um, that's like my way to just
Speaker 1: sort of like cleanse it all and get in touch
Speaker 1: with myself and what do I think? What do I feel?
Speaker 1: Instead of trying to like merge into other people's worlds.
Speaker 1: So I love Um, I love being around people, but
Speaker 1: I'm always working on Okay, so they're having this problem,
Speaker 1: it's not my problem. They have to carry and be
Speaker 1: supportive of them without attaching itself to me. Yeah like
Speaker 1: that because it's like there is no out, you know,
Speaker 1: you're kind of living in people. I feel like Velcrow
Speaker 1: sometimes times in there get off that. But what I
Speaker 1: would love is maybe a kindled Arnell shaman that we
Speaker 1: could go to during the chat where you just sit
Speaker 1: there and get page look pretty and sit there and
Speaker 1: like just you know, cleanse us all of our ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's an idea. I'm just throwing ideas. See what sticks
Speaker 1: right that sounds? I love it. Um. I like cupping
Speaker 1: really helps me and it does cleanse some stuff, right,
Speaker 1: and so um, I got to practice on my cast mates,
Speaker 1: my roommates, and so people were sore, hadn't had some issues.
Speaker 1: I just throw the cups on them and just move
Speaker 1: them around and pull out some toxins and really release
Speaker 1: the lactic acid. And yeah, it seemed to work. So
Speaker 1: I'm not quite a shaman, but a haler of sorts though,
Speaker 1: another way of helping get rid of the crap. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not upset about it. Kind of wish I was
Speaker 1: there for it, but yeah, I didn't know about cupping
Speaker 1: for season one. Otherwise, I well, hopefully there'll be more
Speaker 1: seasons to come. You can bring the cups, we'll be friends.
Speaker 1: Yeah and nasally you too many friends? No I don't,
Speaker 1: Yeah you do. I was thinking about that, actually, thank you,
Speaker 1: because I'm constantly like reevaluating, okay, like where did I?
Speaker 1: Where did I fail? Like how can I do better?
Speaker 1: And so season two I was thinking, like I really
Speaker 1: liked everyone there and had like these these friendships and
Speaker 1: we're developing, and I thought, eventually there's going to come
Speaker 1: a time when you got to choose between your favorite
Speaker 1: friends and how do you do that? And that were
Speaker 1: you horrible and kind of people without you know, like
Speaker 1: Tory's my best friend, but I don't. Haven't those really
Speaker 1: on the show and on this one and in a
Speaker 1: place of hate, maybe there wrong, but season one it
Speaker 1: seemed like you had a lot of friends, and so
Speaker 1: when I've seen in a while, I was just really
Speaker 1: excited to see, like my buddies, Like these are your
Speaker 1: camps that like could come back to hang out with.
Speaker 1: There are people clearly that I was just like, I don't.
Speaker 1: There are people that I'd rather have there than not.
Speaker 1: It's not a bad thing either, Like think about John Ay,
Speaker 1: she wins and that girl I think has the most
Speaker 1: friends out of anybody I've never and in the best
Speaker 1: way possible, like she deserves all the she's likable. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's she's friends with everybody, but she's
Speaker 1: very likable and easy to live with. Yeah, that's different.
Speaker 1: I don't think she's definitely, it's like sharing shit with
Speaker 1: people and giving them time and energy. That's a different
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Yeah, you know, you could be friendly
Speaker 1: and nice people in the house and play that game
Speaker 1: which I always used to because I didn't care um
Speaker 1: because I liked I went there to meet people and
Speaker 1: experience that. But then they're like, well, who can I trust,
Speaker 1: and then that's where a friendships start to come, like
Speaker 1: can I tell this person something without having to tell
Speaker 1: them not to say anything, or can I share stuff
Speaker 1: with them about home life? That's like troubling me. Like
Speaker 1: they're that kind of compartmentalize like friendships because they do
Speaker 1: have different levels. Kendall, do you feel like the second
Speaker 1: season that you came on you had more friendships? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean I guess I picture everybody as my friend. Um.
Speaker 1: I just like people, um, and then I find out
Speaker 1: that not everybody likes me. But season two I felt
Speaker 1: like it was it was reciprocated, right, The feelings that
Speaker 1: I had towards them were coming back towards me too. Um.
Speaker 1: And so it just makes you know, if you're comfortable,
Speaker 1: you feel at least for me, I feel more relaxed
Speaker 1: and able to be myself right, And in doing so,
Speaker 1: then it's like you're not this ball of stress. You're
Speaker 1: not um sending off these negative things because you're relaxed
Speaker 1: and you're chilling, and so you practice positive energy as well.
Speaker 1: So I felt like because I was so comfortable, um
Speaker 1: in oh man, somebody's feel ucomfortable too. What'd you say
Speaker 1: back there? Sasha, that's our coffee. I don't know what's
Speaker 1: she doing. I guess she's okay, she's alive, okay, and
Speaker 1: so yeah, So I feel like, you know, the environment
Speaker 1: sort of feeds into how you feel, which then feeds
Speaker 1: off to how you're portrayed and what you attract to,
Speaker 1: and it sort of becomes this whole other thing in itself.
Speaker 1: So um, I think that's that's the magic, is trying
Speaker 1: to find that balance of being okay and comfortable and
Speaker 1: confident and positive despite what's going on around you, right,
Speaker 1: And I think that yeah, And I think you can
Speaker 1: see the growth over time and even just your analysis
Speaker 1: of it all is I mean, it's great that you
Speaker 1: can step out and be like, this is my experience
Speaker 1: and knowing that you've learned so much from the show.
Speaker 1: We have a question from our It's called our mail bag,
Speaker 1: so somebody writes into us. Jason from Cleveland wants to
Speaker 1: know what is something that you've learned from the challenge
Speaker 1: and applied to your real life. I think probably the
Speaker 1: biggest thing would be something I've been working on, like
Speaker 1: don't sell yourself short and trying to curb like the
Speaker 1: negative self talk I have, like huge self deprecating sense
Speaker 1: of humor, and I've learned that that does not translate well.
Speaker 1: But I will sort of, you know, like make fun
Speaker 1: of myself for not being you know, this or that,
Speaker 1: and and then I think people take it as like
Speaker 1: snarky or and being kind of I don't know, passive aggressive,
Speaker 1: and really it's like, no, I'm not. It's not a
Speaker 1: comment on you. It's a comment towards myself. So and
Speaker 1: that really isn't very good anyway. So I need to
Speaker 1: be kinder to myself and not sell myself. So I've
Speaker 1: been trying to, you know, approach things at home with
Speaker 1: a little bit more confidence and know that I am
Speaker 1: a fully capable human being. And then there are things that, yeah,
Speaker 1: I might be nervous to do, but you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: one of the biggest fears is somebody with anxiety is
Speaker 1: what if you look like an ass and everybody sees it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then it happens and you're like, wow, it happened,
Speaker 1: and I'm still here and the worst thing that happen,
Speaker 1: So everything else is just okay. Of fear that goes
Speaker 1: along with anxiety, that's just really annoying, Like that component
Speaker 1: can just go itself. Um, it does make things really tough,
Speaker 1: unnecessarily tough. And then yeah, it's how small these things
Speaker 1: are really in the grand scheme of things. You know,
Speaker 1: you have a wonderful life, you're strong, you're able bodied. Again,
Speaker 1: I think your ribs are all there right for the
Speaker 1: most part, they are okay, and some people don't have
Speaker 1: them removed. And yet that's not yep, I'm happy. I'm
Speaker 1: happy that you have well, Kendall, we have one last
Speaker 1: fun question for you. We'll leave off on a fun note.
Speaker 1: If you had to pick your dream team, like who
Speaker 1: would your dream partner be and who is your dream rival?
Speaker 1: Who would you love to go head to head against
Speaker 1: in an elimination or a final? Oh gosh, um knowing
Speaker 1: that maybe you'd win, right, Like, let's put that into
Speaker 1: the universe. Yeah why not? Oh man, you know what
Speaker 1: to deal. And then I have Tory Haul had to
Speaker 1: let you know that it's not you. Well, whenever I
Speaker 1: talk about how my best friend train, they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's on the podcast. I'm like, no, no, no, she's
Speaker 1: she's the old Tory that crazy team. I would I
Speaker 1: would love to be um partners with her. She's a
Speaker 1: lot more cutthroat than I am, and I think I
Speaker 1: need that balance. It would be really cool to see
Speaker 1: her back on the show. I would love she definitely
Speaker 1: have some sass. Oh she's so funny. She's just so
Speaker 1: funny and so just quick witted, and I mean she
Speaker 1: has me in stitches, like every day. We talk a lot.
Speaker 1: We started off on a bad note and now we're fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah really you didn't. Yeah, well dal duel the duel
Speaker 1: was a little crazy and did not like me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, all right, cool and then yeah,
Speaker 1: we went into elimination against each other I want. And
Speaker 1: then years later we just became cool when we talked
Speaker 1: about things. And it's nice to have second chances and
Speaker 1: meet people getting your adult life. Yeah, I think that's
Speaker 1: one thing about the show that like that lends us
Speaker 1: like a little bit of patience and some you know,
Speaker 1: duo verse, which is nice. Well, and it's the environment
Speaker 1: we meet in is not normal situation. It's yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think you can hold of people responsible for the
Speaker 1: things that happened. Are you telling me the challenges in
Speaker 1: real life? Because I was about to fall apart while
Speaker 1: I was about to fall apart over here, not no,
Speaker 1: it might be real events, but no one lives in
Speaker 1: that kind of situation. So yeah, and especially if you
Speaker 1: take into account who we were when we were like
Speaker 1: twenty six or twenty one or you know, or forty one, yeah,
Speaker 1: right or forty now. But it's fine, it's fine. Who
Speaker 1: would you want to go head to head against though
Speaker 1: to head knowing I win? Yeah? Like, who do you
Speaker 1: want to beat? Well? I mean if I could beat anybody, Um,
Speaker 1: you'd want to beat the best, right yea? So no,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say, because then they're gonna be
Speaker 1: like and then I wouldn't win. I'm like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: m yeah, if I if I should like beat anybody?
Speaker 1: If that's the right question, because when I think rival,
Speaker 1: I think like who do you not get along? Who
Speaker 1: do you not get along with? I like this question better,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read it. Okay, who do you who in
Speaker 1: the past that you haven't gotten along with? Would you
Speaker 1: like to be partnered with? Because they're just bad ass?
Speaker 1: I like this question. Oh, I see like a partner's
Speaker 1: rival thing? Yes? Um oh gosh um anissa, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: go into elimination. That was actually going to come out
Speaker 1: of my mouth. And then I thought, oh, but I
Speaker 1: remember you were saying that you don't traditionally make it
Speaker 1: to the final, and I need to make it to
Speaker 1: the final fire subpopular assholes. And then however, however, New
Speaker 1: Age Nissa also did make it to the final, so
Speaker 1: you like hundred percent track record there, so you wouldn't
Speaker 1: be a bad partner. Um, yeah, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I could get on your nerves and environment
Speaker 1: again now, so I don't think that was it. Listen,
Speaker 1: we've talked about this. We are all good, Kendall. I
Speaker 1: have no no issues now. I I appreciated that, you know,
Speaker 1: when it because I was so curious what are people
Speaker 1: going to say? Right? And so you watch the show
Speaker 1: because you want to hear all the ship talking that
Speaker 1: happens in the interviews and everything that you said. I
Speaker 1: really appreciated that it was It was about the game.
Speaker 1: There wasn't anything personal. There wasn't um you know, I
Speaker 1: got called a liar and I really like that. That
Speaker 1: that that sucks. I have to live with that because
Speaker 1: what people say on TV is you know, apparently true.
Speaker 1: So um, but you didn't do that, and you stuck
Speaker 1: to the game and you said she's a good competitor.
Speaker 1: She needs to be out in order for me to
Speaker 1: go forward. And that's respectable. Like, that's that's about your character.
Speaker 1: I never thought you're a bad person. I'm just like,
Speaker 1: she's good at this. I don't understand what are we doing, folks?
Speaker 1: And you are good because you want to wear you
Speaker 1: are good? You are you are good like people see
Speaker 1: that in you and like I was. It was an
Speaker 1: upset when you didn't make it to the final the
Speaker 1: first time, and obviously you got robbed season two. So
Speaker 1: I hope that you get the opportunity to go back
Speaker 1: and compete because we are really looking forward to a
Speaker 1: Kendall comeback. So fingers crossed that there's another season coming
Speaker 1: out of All Stars because we are obsessed with it
Speaker 1: over here. Anyway, Kendall, thank you so much for coming
Speaker 1: on the show and talking to us. It's been an
Speaker 1: absolute pleasure. Where can we follow you on Instagram or
Speaker 1: on social media? And how can we support you? Oh geez,
Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram. I used to be on Twitter a
Speaker 1: lot more, but I just don't have as much time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Instagram is probably more so where I'm at. How
Speaker 1: can you support me? I don't know, just be nice.
Speaker 1: Puppy videos, kiddy videos, I love you utters, I love
Speaker 1: river artists are my favorite. That's my spirit animal. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's I think, just being an understanding of every every challenger,
Speaker 1: knowing that we're yes, we're all real people, we all
Speaker 1: have real feelings, and we are in a very bizarre
Speaker 1: environment and having to deal with our own stressors on
Speaker 1: top of everything else. Yeah, that's kind of the best
Speaker 1: thing as viewers to remember. However, if we aren't sparking
Speaker 1: strong emotions, then we aren't providing good entertainments, right right,
Speaker 1: It's true, All right, mom, Well, Kendall's over there being
Speaker 1: a mom too at the same time doing a podcast.
Speaker 1: We have a lot of respect for that over here.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on. I know that
Speaker 1: you're in the middle of watching the kids, so seriously,
Speaker 1: thank you again, Kendall for coming on the show, and
Speaker 1: we look forward to talking to you again soon and
Speaker 1: fingers crossed that we will see you on our screens
Speaker 1: again in the near future. Thank you, Thank you all right,
Speaker 1: talking well, folks, I'm wounded, but I'm not dead. Um.
Speaker 1: Thank you Kendall for coming on and sharing your experience
Speaker 1: and for not hurting me too badly. I will recover.
Speaker 1: Um no, really, thank you for coming on and sharing
Speaker 1: a little piece of your life with us. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: she was a trooper and I'm glad that she had
Speaker 1: the opportunity to explain her piece and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: But Anisa, you took some shots. So where can we
Speaker 1: Where can we send you love? On social media? Because
Speaker 1: I need you guys to send need you guys to
Speaker 1: send me band aids, first aid kits nine one, a
Speaker 1: life alert bracelet, maybe a bulletproof vest. That's what I need.
Speaker 1: Please send me that. Yeah good? You can find me
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