WEBVTT - Like a Hurricane (with Clayton English)

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Venture just shows up and he's like, what do

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<v Speaker 1>y'all have in here? Why can't we take a tour tour?

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<v Speaker 1>You have a tour once a year? Does that make

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<v Speaker 1>sense to you? Doesn't make sense to me? What do

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<v Speaker 1>you got in there? Back there? And he's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. I love the idea that he's showing

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<v Speaker 1>up the places and being like, I want to fucking tour.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, sir, nobody tours. This isn't that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of place. It's not an issue of us hiding something.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody wants to be here. He's like, no, show me

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<v Speaker 1>the fucking back. That's why racist money in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff can't tell me. Yep, there it is. There it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode of My Mama

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<v Speaker 1>Told Me, the podcast where we dive deep deep into

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<v Speaker 1>the pockets of black conspiracy theories and we proved that

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<v Speaker 1>Lizzo's DNA tests was only ninete percent that bitch and

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<v Speaker 1>three percent Guatemalan. She's lying to you people. She ain't

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<v Speaker 1>all that bitch. She's a little bit watermalin and she

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be honest about it. I am your host,

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<v Speaker 1>likes to Kerman as always, I'm excited to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>My guest today is a phenomenal comedian, hilarious person, a

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<v Speaker 1>dear friend, a person who I think we started sort

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<v Speaker 1>of our formative years in Hollywood together. We did New

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<v Speaker 1>Faces together, we'd we sort of bonded as young pupils

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<v Speaker 1>in the world of comedy. And he SIPs going on

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<v Speaker 1>to do amazing ship. He was on last Comedy Scanning,

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<v Speaker 1>He's been on Comedy Central eighty bio. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>from the Sound show one of the funniest goddamn podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>there is. You know him, you love him? Give it

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<v Speaker 1>up for my friend Mr Clayton Elend. Yeah, man, what's up? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>You got some bars and the theme? So, man, you

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<v Speaker 1>got some bars? Yeah, it's you know I. Nick Chambers,

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<v Speaker 1>who's a very hilarious comedian out in New York, helped

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<v Speaker 1>me put that bad Boy together. We wrote some lyrics together.

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<v Speaker 1>He did all the music because I suck at it.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's it's I came together nice. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bout man. Go here and put that on Spotify. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta get that on the Spotify. Players of one song,

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<v Speaker 1>just that, Where are you right now? Where are you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in l A. Yeah, I know we have similar

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<v Speaker 1>backgrounds where it looks like we are being held hostage,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I'm in l A. I swear I can

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<v Speaker 1>see a palm. Try, I swear, just in a blank

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<v Speaker 1>room with nothing in it. Yeah. The thing is my wife. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>We're in a new house and I'm in the closet

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<v Speaker 1>literally speaking, not metaphorically. I'm in the closet, and she

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<v Speaker 1>got a room to herself to do her work. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is my deal. I'm in a closet with a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of pillows and ship and that's marriage. You get

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<v Speaker 1>a house, you get a closet. Absolutely, it's the compromise

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<v Speaker 1>that she made, and I guess I agreed to it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Anyway, this is exciting. I'm happy you're

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<v Speaker 1>here because you came to me with maybe this. It's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting because I mentioned it to you before. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy that I personally had not heard a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>But a fan of the show d m and basically said,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to talk about this, And I was so

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<v Speaker 1>excited that this was one of the options you sent me.

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<v Speaker 1>But you said, my mama told me hurricanes are the

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<v Speaker 1>souls of slaves lost in the Middle passage. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what whips up hurricanes because it's the route they took, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So they started Africa and

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<v Speaker 1>then they always sunk up the South like yes, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's like black slaves, so freak nick and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just kind of a caravan and they just culminate

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's just slaves torking their way all

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<v Speaker 1>the way to Atlanta to just funk up some ship.

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<v Speaker 1>They never can quite make it to Atlanta, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>always somewhere in the Gulf it gets hit you know, Florida, Alabama,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, the gold like where in

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<v Speaker 1>Texas they're dreaming for they're dreaming for the opportunities to

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<v Speaker 1>get to Atlanta to make their mark in the world

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<v Speaker 1>of Tyler Perry's studios. But unfortunately they don't make it

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<v Speaker 1>that far, and it's that they get stuck and goddamn

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<v Speaker 1>Mississippi or wherever end up blowing away for the trailer parks. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is it. I feel like maybe one of the

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<v Speaker 1>the more like at least on paper, insane conspiracy theories

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<v Speaker 1>that a person could present that these souls have transformed

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<v Speaker 1>into hurricanes and are attacking the states and other places.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to me about where you first heard this, Where

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<v Speaker 1>does this first come into your your life. So my

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<v Speaker 1>family is from Pensacola, Florida, So hurricane just away of

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<v Speaker 1>life down there. And for so long Pensacola would always

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<v Speaker 1>get missed, it always get missed. When they finally got hit,

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<v Speaker 1>it actually just got hit. My granddad's house got sucked

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<v Speaker 1>up with the last hurricane that just happened. Now, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's good. Everybody good. Yeah. Yeah. So around that you

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<v Speaker 1>start hearing the hurricane story and it's so many like

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<v Speaker 1>hurricane conspiracy theories I pay attention to maybe too much,

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<v Speaker 1>like like like I funk with weather control, I funk

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<v Speaker 1>with whatever kode that black say on that s song

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<v Speaker 1>with like like win ain't got no one, ain't where

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<v Speaker 1>you think Hurricane hard it from. I just I was like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>oh this the wind don't have a name. This alleged

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<v Speaker 1>rapeissess talking that talk. I like what he's saying, Florida

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<v Speaker 1>is a duality. Motherfucker's is gonna be the most fucked

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<v Speaker 1>up individual you could be. And then say some ship

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<v Speaker 1>that damn near makes motherfucking perfect Florida gives you that

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<v Speaker 1>perfect storm, if you will, just insanity and like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot, You've seen a lot because that's why

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, you're like because it's like it's clicks

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<v Speaker 1>some like, yeah, a lot of And if you you

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<v Speaker 1>can't watch people wrestle alligators and fucking do wild Florida

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<v Speaker 1>ship and then expect them to just come with reason logic,

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<v Speaker 1>They're coming with Florida logic. And that doesn't make it wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>that just makes it specific to the experience they have

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<v Speaker 1>right right there, you go, yeah, hell yeah. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>growing up, you're around hurricanes enough or at least like

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<v Speaker 1>hearing about hurricanes enough that this comes up. And what

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<v Speaker 1>is your first thought? Are you bought in? Are you like,

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<v Speaker 1>hell yeah, I believe you. Yes, I want to believe it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't actually like on a karmic level. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that ship is dope. And then I went to school

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<v Speaker 1>in Tallahassee, I went to Florida and m so then

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<v Speaker 1>you started getting around motherfucker's that have behold the Pale Horse.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what I'm saying, Like everything I still

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<v Speaker 1>think hurricanes is the spirits of the motherfucker's that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>make it? Like that ship just sounds like a good

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<v Speaker 1>fuck it. It's a good fucking movie. If we put

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<v Speaker 1>on the ship and it was a hurricane and niggas

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<v Speaker 1>are found them mad about slavery, that would be horrifying

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<v Speaker 1>for the white viewer. Yeah, it's I will say, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a goddamn great ghost story. And like you're saying, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a fantastic movie. And I don't know if it's rooted

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<v Speaker 1>in any truth, but damn does this feel like a

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<v Speaker 1>thing that would be exciting to watch in a sweet

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<v Speaker 1>justice to serve out to the So I always like

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<v Speaker 1>believed it just for the hope of it because it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds good. Ship, just sound good man. Like, sure, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna I'm not gonna die about this, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. I'm not gonna you know, it's rapper ship.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a little bit of a flex you flex. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I believe it, Like it's just the path, just

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<v Speaker 1>the path alone is what really sells it. Like, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't argue with where hurricanes originating where they wind up, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So for our listeners at home, what Clayton is referring to.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is something that I unpacked in the research,

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<v Speaker 1>is that hurricanes generally generate from West Africa. That like

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<v Speaker 1>literally they follow the Atlantic slave trade route, starting in

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<v Speaker 1>West Africa and then moving towards the Caribbean and then

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<v Speaker 1>South America and North America and sort of like the

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<v Speaker 1>spitting formation towards like these other continents and spaces formation.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, you believe it, you believe Listen. When I

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<v Speaker 1>first heard, I was like, this is silly. This will

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<v Speaker 1>be a fun thing to talk about, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what I believe. And then I started looking at

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<v Speaker 1>some of those maps. I'm like, God, damn, this Look

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<v Speaker 1>how it's spreading out. Look how it's like attacking these

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<v Speaker 1>specific places, Like there's vengeance to be served. This feels

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<v Speaker 1>vengeful in a way that I didn't anticipate that it

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<v Speaker 1>was spinning like it's you know what I mean when

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<v Speaker 1>he was mad at the camera, like spitting right, suck y'all. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So you wanted to believe it? At any point did

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<v Speaker 1>you jump off of the train of belief? Was there

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<v Speaker 1>anything that sort of like made you go, I fun,

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<v Speaker 1>this is where I have trouble with it. Yeah, when

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<v Speaker 1>when black people kept getting sucked up by the hurricane.

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<v Speaker 1>That's you know what I'm saying that right, it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to say that this is like serving up justice when

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<v Speaker 1>the only people who really suffered in Katrina were just

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<v Speaker 1>black people trapped on roofs, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you know, that's a whole another conspiracy, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with the levies and everything. Okay, wait, talk to me

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<v Speaker 1>on that. Wait, talk to me a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>the conspiracy behind the levees. I don't know, oh man, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So when Katrina happened in order to save the money

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<v Speaker 1>making part of New Orleans, it's people that claim that

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<v Speaker 1>they heard explosions that lived near the levees, and the

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<v Speaker 1>levees broke supposedly flooded a lot of the black areas

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<v Speaker 1>that was you know, it's like they decided what was

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<v Speaker 1>worth you know what I'm saying, how can we alleviate

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<v Speaker 1>this pressure? And all right? Send it there? You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, It's a instead of the levies breaking randomly,

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<v Speaker 1>which could have affected everyone, the levies were destroyed, like

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<v Speaker 1>blown up in a specific area that made sure that

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<v Speaker 1>this specific group were the only people who suffered from it, right. Yeah. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I had never heard that before, but ship, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>in um you know, Spike Lee got long documentary about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like stuff that was known. I remember, like

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<v Speaker 1>I was in Atlanta at the time, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>was seeing people from New Orleans like flood Atlanta, and

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<v Speaker 1>you hear their stories and stuff, and it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>damn it, man, it has at least an air of

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<v Speaker 1>a possibility behind it because of how cities are often

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<v Speaker 1>set up. Right and you sort of were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>it a second ago, but so many hurricanes leave black

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<v Speaker 1>brown and pour people in their wake, like they are

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<v Speaker 1>the ones who suffer the most that they hurricanes. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's not because like we're goofy and just don't know

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<v Speaker 1>where to be. It's because fucking cities are structured in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that ensure that black people are the first

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<v Speaker 1>in line when some bullshit happens, right, Yeah, we usually

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<v Speaker 1>pushed to the edge. Hm, Like you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>We pushed to the edge, and do they want to

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<v Speaker 1>come to the edge, and then when they want to

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<v Speaker 1>come back, like it's just like a motherfucking constant ripple

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<v Speaker 1>of gentrification And all right, y'all, Nis can come back,

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<v Speaker 1>get back out there, come back there like stupid man. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you hear about all the Caribbean I ends

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<v Speaker 1>where like they get fucking terrible damage from hurricanes and

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<v Speaker 1>all the things that happened, but it never happens on

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<v Speaker 1>any of those resorts. The resorts are always fine because

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<v Speaker 1>they have a clear strategy of like, oh, we know

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<v Speaker 1>where the hurricanes always hit, and even if we suffer

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, this isn't gonna take our entire property,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas like the people that live on this island, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna put y'all right in the fucking way and you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take the brunt of everything that's happening. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even think about that, but yeah, that's true. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought, you know, I mean, what poor people

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lose more because they got less, right. Yeah. Fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't feel good to hear it out loud, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's very correct, no matter, but yeah, it all. It

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<v Speaker 1>actually only took a little bit of rain to take

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<v Speaker 1>everything because we don't have ship, but we didn't lose

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<v Speaker 1>everything in the process. Oh man. Okay, So when you

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<v Speaker 1>start to balance the fact that is mostly black people,

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<v Speaker 1>brown people, poor people, suffering at the hands of these hurricanes.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think or do you think there's any

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<v Speaker 1>connection in like what that could mean for the slave trader?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that just the failure of that premise? No, I

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<v Speaker 1>just think it. Uh it don't care. You know what

0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Like this ship happened. Man, whatever the fuck

0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:34.920
<v Speaker 1>is up there is gonna get it. Like, yeah, sorry, y'all,

0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Like like we just don't spray the block, you know

0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:42.040
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Like, yeah, yeah, we're sorry. Who got

0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:45.600
<v Speaker 1>hit got hit, but we're spraying. You said it, you

0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:51.280
<v Speaker 1>said spitting, You said right, So right, niggas shooting. They

0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:55.880
<v Speaker 1>ain't shooting for the kids. But if a right, that

0:14:56.040 --> 0:15:00.480
<v Speaker 1>was part of that. Man, I'm sorry, but they this

0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:05.040
<v Speaker 1>beef has ever lasted, right. You see what this motherfucker

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<v Speaker 1>did to me, did to my family. Fuck y'all, I

0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:11.000
<v Speaker 1>don't give it ship. If you gotta an El Dorado

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<v Speaker 1>parked in your yard, I got shipped to do. I

0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:17.840
<v Speaker 1>got justice to serve. Okay. So, in sub ways, it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like the people that are living in these spaces

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<v Speaker 1>are for the souls of these slaves, a necessary sacrifice

0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:29.160
<v Speaker 1>or a potential sacrifice that they're willing to make for

0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:33.240
<v Speaker 1>their grander justice. Oh, I ain't think about it like

0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.800
<v Speaker 1>a sacrifice. I just thought about it like on I

0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:38.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I didn't think about it that far. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be thinking about it more and more now. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said it, I can't really call that. I

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<v Speaker 1>just got back from can Koon. Right. We went down

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<v Speaker 1>to Mexico and my wife and I like literally dodged

0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:55.200
<v Speaker 1>a hurricane as we were leaving, Like, the hotel called

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<v Speaker 1>up yesterday morning. They were like, hey, we're sending people

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<v Speaker 1>to a shelter. I know y'all are leaving soon, but

0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:03.880
<v Speaker 1>y'all trying to go to that shelter too or what

0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:05.600
<v Speaker 1>was happening? And we were like, no, no, no, we're

0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:09.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna leave immediately when trying to stick this out. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think even that, right, like that idea of being

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<v Speaker 1>able to move a bunch of people, you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>are on some resort they didn't tell, to a shelter

0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:24.040
<v Speaker 1>is an option that most poor people don't have, right,

0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:27.280
<v Speaker 1>It's that's a luxury, that's a resource, even though the

0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:32.520
<v Speaker 1>shelter probably was gonna be bunk beds and like bologney sandwiches, right, Yeah, No,

0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:37.880
<v Speaker 1>it was gonna be some bulletshit. Definitely. It was like,

0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:41.280
<v Speaker 1>you think you're moving a resort adjacent, Now, buddy, you're

0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:44.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna drop all the way off. But yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess when they know they're coming and it's super big,

0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:50.880
<v Speaker 1>they do try to evacuate. So I mean, but you know,

0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:53.520
<v Speaker 1>people stay if they want to stay. I think that

0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:57.040
<v Speaker 1>goes to the grander issue, right, is that like when

0:16:57.120 --> 0:17:00.080
<v Speaker 1>you know it's big, when you have the resources to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to check these things and plan and have

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere to go. Fuck, yeah, now, okay, cool, I'll leave.

0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.160
<v Speaker 1>But if I'm somebody who in no way has any

0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:14.760
<v Speaker 1>other resources, has nowhere else to go, couldn't tell you

0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:18.000
<v Speaker 1>how to leave in the first place, I'm fucking stuck

0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.920
<v Speaker 1>and I'm trapping the thing. And that isn't I think

0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:26.879
<v Speaker 1>the result of these souls or these slaves. That's just

0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:32.320
<v Speaker 1>the result of the slave owners continuing to pull their bullshit. Right, So,

0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:36.280
<v Speaker 1>these could be the souls of these slaves trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do the justice that they want to do, But unfortunately

0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:45.320
<v Speaker 1>slave owners have maintained a type of control the souls

0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:48.960
<v Speaker 1>from protecting themselves or doing the right thing, rather right

0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:51.480
<v Speaker 1>right right, people in the way. They shouldn't be in

0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:55.520
<v Speaker 1>the way right like they saw it. They saw it

0:17:55.520 --> 0:18:02.280
<v Speaker 1>a long time ago, Like or does he keep happening?

0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:06.040
<v Speaker 1>They were throwing people off the boats and like, Oh,

0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.480
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna come back. That motherfucker's gonna be mad at me.

0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I gotta do. I gotta start playing chess because if

0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:15.760
<v Speaker 1>he come back, I'm gonna get sucked up. Okay, we're

0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:17.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna take a break and then we're gonna come back

0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:20.560
<v Speaker 1>with more Clayton English and more, my mama told me.

0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:47.040
<v Speaker 1>And we are back. Yeah, we're back here with more

0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Clayton English, more. And my mama told me. We're still

0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:52.679
<v Speaker 1>talking about the souls of the slaves loss in the

0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Middle Passage and the possibility that they might be hurricanes

0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:59.520
<v Speaker 1>out here, Batman in the ship, out of the people

0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:02.760
<v Speaker 1>that hurt them and the ancestors of the people that

0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:07.960
<v Speaker 1>hurt them. Wait, you were telling me, and this is exciting.

0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:10.280
<v Speaker 1>You were telling me about some of the weather control

0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:14.639
<v Speaker 1>stuff that you've been looking up. Oh yeah, yeah, the

0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:19.800
<v Speaker 1>hard thing. But Jesse Ventura, the wrestler and then the governor, dude,

0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:23.320
<v Speaker 1>he had a conspiracy theory show and he would go

0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:30.359
<v Speaker 1>around to these places and it was basically a wrestler

0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:38.439
<v Speaker 1>harassing people about ship that nobody's supposed to be talking about. Right, wait,

0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:41.000
<v Speaker 1>so what was this? What was it on? Was it

0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:43.760
<v Speaker 1>like public Access ship? No, it was it was on

0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:46.680
<v Speaker 1>a real channel. I think he maybe had one season.

0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:49.640
<v Speaker 1>It was like, um, it was on one of the channels.

0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:52.879
<v Speaker 1>That's something else. Now. It was like True TV before

0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:56.080
<v Speaker 1>they started doing comedy, probably when it was like they

0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:58.160
<v Speaker 1>was judge shows and then they didn't know what they

0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:01.919
<v Speaker 1>wanted to do. It was true I got the True brother.

0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:07.760
<v Speaker 1>He was the thing that pushed them into comedy. They

0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:10.800
<v Speaker 1>were like, hey, we can't keep doing this man, Jesse

0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:13.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know how to act. We got to get practical jokers,

0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:21.080
<v Speaker 1>and we got to get somebody in here. This is

0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:25.800
<v Speaker 1>going too far. I like Jesse Vntour because I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like in the videos that I've watched of his work,

0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:32.239
<v Speaker 1>it's like every I would say, fifth thing that he

0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:36.080
<v Speaker 1>says is like hell yeah, dog, you're fucking killing it,

0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:39.840
<v Speaker 1>and then everything else just sounds like a promo video

0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:42.679
<v Speaker 1>for raw you know what I mean. It's just a

0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:47.440
<v Speaker 1>dude talking crazy crazy Yeah. But he would have the information.

0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:50.160
<v Speaker 1>They'd be like Okay, heart runs off the same frequency

0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:53.440
<v Speaker 1>that your brain way operate off of. Originally started as

0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:55.920
<v Speaker 1>a cloud seating program. You know what I'm saying. It

0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:58.639
<v Speaker 1>can shoot it into the eye on the sphere. But

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<v Speaker 1>like a reverse reaction, like if you do some ship

0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:05.760
<v Speaker 1>up this way, some ship's gonna happen on the other

0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:08.639
<v Speaker 1>side of the earth. That like some crazy ship like

0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:12.919
<v Speaker 1>supposedly Tesla technology or whatever. But yeah, that's where I

0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:15.840
<v Speaker 1>first heard about the hardship and I got you. Yeah,

0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:17.640
<v Speaker 1>that's about the end of my research for it too.

0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:19.439
<v Speaker 1>I looked it up a little bit. But then I

0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:22.080
<v Speaker 1>also didn't want like Jesse Venture come and asking me

0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:25.080
<v Speaker 1>about it, or like I wasn't even really worried about

0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:27.159
<v Speaker 1>the authorities, Like if the authorities came, I gonna be

0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:29.720
<v Speaker 1>like I was hot. I was looking around. Come on,

0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:35.680
<v Speaker 1>I love drugs. What are you talking? We can't geat

0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:40.760
<v Speaker 1>no more. Oh you're saying smoking is illegal in most states?

0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:46.280
<v Speaker 1>All right, you tubing man, cool co. All right, here's

0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:47.640
<v Speaker 1>what I want to do. I want to get into

0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:51.680
<v Speaker 1>some of this research because I found, and this surprised me,

0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:55.960
<v Speaker 1>that there is a fair amount of not crazy things

0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:59.560
<v Speaker 1>sort of cooked into what it seems like an otherwise

0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:05.520
<v Speaker 1>just spiritual, emotionally driven conspiracy theory. Let's start with some

0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:08.639
<v Speaker 1>of the actual crazy things that I read. One of

0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:11.040
<v Speaker 1>the things that I read said that some people claim

0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:15.520
<v Speaker 1>that specifically the souls of black women are the ones

0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:19.080
<v Speaker 1>that are these hurricanes, which is why they're called her

0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:28.040
<v Speaker 1>It can't that is just the women who were I

0:22:28.080 --> 0:22:32.800
<v Speaker 1>guess of childbearing age, and that's why we call them hurricanes.

0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:36.760
<v Speaker 1>But it's specifically black women who are attacking the US

0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:39.840
<v Speaker 1>and the Caribbean with their souls, if you will any

0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:44.400
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on that that move you in any way? Yeah,

0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:49.639
<v Speaker 1>it makes sense the manner in which the hurricane moves,

0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:52.879
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, Like it's a necro of

0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:56.720
<v Speaker 1>a storm, you know what I mean, Like it attacks hard,

0:22:57.000 --> 0:23:01.119
<v Speaker 1>then it takes a break, and then you see it

0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:06.120
<v Speaker 1>coming ain't ship you can do about it, And then

0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:08.199
<v Speaker 1>you look it in his eyes and you try to

0:23:08.240 --> 0:23:13.840
<v Speaker 1>calm it down. But no, does she taking a break.

0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:22.160
<v Speaker 1>She just resting up in a good way. Though. Yeah,

0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:24.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't want the women at home to think that

0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:28.240
<v Speaker 1>we're saying horrible things to generalize them. We're merely making

0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:30.679
<v Speaker 1>fun of you, ladies, because we're afraid of you, and

0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:34.639
<v Speaker 1>you hold a powerful way and certainly my heart, and

0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:39.399
<v Speaker 1>I think Clayton's as well. Here's another one that I

0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:42.239
<v Speaker 1>thought was fun. Some people claim that the path of

0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:44.840
<v Speaker 1>the hurricane, that like the trail that you talked about

0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:48.600
<v Speaker 1>a bit, moving from West Africa to the Caribbean to

0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:53.639
<v Speaker 1>North America to South America, looks suspiciously like the path

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:59.440
<v Speaker 1>of the Firefox logo. That like it's somehow and and

0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:03.840
<v Speaker 1>ide nickel movement of the firefox shifting downward and then

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:08.000
<v Speaker 1>over like that around the world. And I don't know

0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:11.440
<v Speaker 1>what that's supposed to mean, like maybe you know they

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:14.800
<v Speaker 1>knew the whole time, or that we are black people

0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:18.240
<v Speaker 1>are the fox on fire. I'm not sure the implications,

0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:20.920
<v Speaker 1>but that's the theory that's popping up a lot. It

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:27.880
<v Speaker 1>looks like the Firefox logo, so that means Firefox logo people. Yeah,

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I had to know what the hurricane path look like, Okay,

0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:34.919
<v Speaker 1>because it's so many ways to make a fox, and

0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:37.720
<v Speaker 1>that fox is not a really cousin fox. You could

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:40.639
<v Speaker 1>have made a cute, cuddling fox or something fox that

0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:43.199
<v Speaker 1>people like seeing. You don't really like seeing that fox.

0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:45.800
<v Speaker 1>He don't know that's a demon fox, and they knew

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:48.159
<v Speaker 1>what they were doing when they made it. That's a

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 1>goddamn demon fox. That's a nerd to fox if I've

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:54.359
<v Speaker 1>ever seen one, and it's bessuming the earth. Come on, man,

0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:57.640
<v Speaker 1>a fox that can fly around the globe. No, that's

0:24:57.680 --> 0:25:01.679
<v Speaker 1>not the fox. See, they knew they they were up

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:03.639
<v Speaker 1>to something. I don't know what they were up to,

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:06.360
<v Speaker 1>but they were up to something. Here's another one that

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't make a lot of sense. But when I typed

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:11.879
<v Speaker 1>in our hurricanes the souls of one of the things

0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:16.399
<v Speaker 1>that auto feels automatically on Google's people saying our hurricanes,

0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:19.760
<v Speaker 1>the souls of the people lost on nine eleven, that

0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:22.879
<v Speaker 1>like the people in the Twin Towers for some reason,

0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:27.359
<v Speaker 1>who were because it happens in September. I yes, I

0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 1>don't whose were they're born? When were they hurricanes just started.

0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 1>It's weird to me because it's like, why would the people,

0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:43.880
<v Speaker 1>the souls of the people lost in nine eleven be like,

0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:46.400
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm about to funk up New Orleans.

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm about to go beat the ship out of out

0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 1>of Haiti. I'm gonna go I'm gonna go tear Florida

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.439
<v Speaker 1>Park because of what happened to me in a plane crash,

0:25:56.720 --> 0:26:00.040
<v Speaker 1>unrelated to any of these places. Let me go, I

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 1>gover to these decories. Yeah, what is that listening to

0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Buffett. I'm about to get that, bitch. I love that. Okay,

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 1>let's dig into some of the more legitimate science or

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:19.719
<v Speaker 1>reasoning behind some of these things. So you mentioned it

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 1>before that the hurricane travels the path of the Atlantic

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:28.400
<v Speaker 1>slave trade. Eighty five. Apparently of hurricanes, certainly the ones

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:32.480
<v Speaker 1>that hit the US form off the coast of West Africa.

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:36.640
<v Speaker 1>So eight. This isn't just like you know, us being

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:39.680
<v Speaker 1>dramatic about the number. This is legit that like almost

0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:42.400
<v Speaker 1>every hurricane that comes to the US was formed off

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:47.160
<v Speaker 1>the coast of West Africa. That's crazy. So like if

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:50.360
<v Speaker 1>you think about that, and like let's say basketball term,

0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:56.920
<v Speaker 1>if a motherfucker's shooting for three mm hmm, we yeah, killing,

0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 1>it's over like like out on your a, Like dep

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:10.360
<v Speaker 1>don't even do that, Like your shots are on target? Yea,

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 1>where the other ones originate from? Did this say that?

0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 1>I probably did. I didn't. Here's how I do my research.

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Like a nigga who didn't go to school for journalism.

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:24.800
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, I just read the part

0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:27.879
<v Speaker 1>that interests me and then I move on as to

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:32.480
<v Speaker 1>not add any kerfuffle in my brain, noting that makes sense.

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm just wondering where else There was probably somewhere else

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 1>they sucked over too, you know what I'm saying, right,

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:40.359
<v Speaker 1>Like it might even be a little white country. It's

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 1>probably Ireland or some ship. Right. I love that. I

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 1>love that there's the only other hurricanes just are the

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 1>souls of like these irritated Irish people who were being

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:56.879
<v Speaker 1>treated as indentured servants when they came to America, and

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 1>they want their justice too, but nobody gives a fuck.

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:04.399
<v Speaker 1>That's great, Okay, So this is where I started to

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 1>become a little bit conspiratorial myself in all of this.

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Hurricanes are formed through low pressure air below basically being

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 1>surrounded by high pressure air that moves in over the

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 1>low pressure air, and then it starts to warm and rise,

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and then the rising air cools and condenses and they

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:29.680
<v Speaker 1>form like these spinning cloud cycles. Right, And so when

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 1>I start to think about the low pressure and the

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 1>high pressure, my metaphorical brain kicks in and I'm like,

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 1>who had low pressure in these situations, slave owners who

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 1>had the high pressure, the people being stolen and beaten

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 1>and in these situations, so maybe that high pressure is

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 1>the slave spirits moving in over these low pressure zones,

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 1>creating the hurricanes and then moving westward to funk up

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:04.720
<v Speaker 1>some ship. That's crazy, that's there. So high pressure it

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 1>means low pressure, and the storms just start whipping up exactly.

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:16.640
<v Speaker 1>So it's probably like a bunch of little fights. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 1>it makes sense in the whole goddamn all out brawl. Yes,

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 1>And part of it is that. And this is where

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>it gets even sort of more clearly. The brawl that

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about is that high pressure area or that

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 1>high pressure is coming off of the Sahara, off this

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 1>dry sort of like land where it's like desert e

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 1>and then moving into this moist sort of low pressure

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 1>southern Atlantic water, and then that's when the mixture happens,

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 1>and that's when everything is happening. So it's literally coming

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 1>from the body of the land in the desert where

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 1>the people were from, and then moving over the body

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 1>of where the oppressors, these colonizers were coming from, creating

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 1>the hurricanes that then transferred to America. Man, that's dope.

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you did this research because I didn't look

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 1>up ship Listen, that's not your responsibility. You just gotta

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 1>be funny, and you're killing it. Man, that's crazy. So

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 1>it comes from the land and then goes over to

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 1>where the people was coming from. That was taking to

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 1>people from where they were from, over the water all

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>the way to go out and meet the low pressure

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:39.880
<v Speaker 1>situation exactly. So here's the other thing that I think

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 1>was fascinating when I pulled from all of the like

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 1>the facts about the slave trade is that the journey

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 1>to the quote unquote New World that they were basically

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 1>calling the Middle Passage lasted anywhere from six to twelve weeks,

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 1>assuming that there were no other disruptions, which included things

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 1>like pirates, rivals, slave ships, or even hurricanes themselves. Right

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 1>that like, assuming you were able to make the trip

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>without any disruptions, it still took you damn near what

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 1>three months to get from the coast of Africa too,

0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>wherever you were going be at the core South America

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 1>whatever that is. In that time, only of the people

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:27.960
<v Speaker 1>that they're capturing are making it all the way through

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 1>this journey, So lots and lots of people are dying

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 1>in this process only making it, I believe. So I

0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 1>could have misread that and it could have been that

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>thirteen percent or dying, but I'm pretty sure that it's

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 1>saying yeah, either way, a ship ton of people, a

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 1>big portion of the people that are making this trip

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:53.680
<v Speaker 1>are dying in the process, which leads further to your

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 1>suggestion that there's a lot of souls seeking vengeance for

0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 1>what happened. Yeah, yeah, is that it's like that old

0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Paul Mooney Joe talking about sharks, like we eight niggas

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 1>and years remember when they used to come that dark

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 1>meat so good, you know, Like, and that's the thing

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:20.240
<v Speaker 1>it's like we're talking about. I think, at least for me,

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 1>everything that we hear about the slave trade, right is

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 1>the people who make it to America or make it

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>to like wherever they become slaves. But what this is

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>saying is massive, massive amounts of people did not even

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 1>make it to land, that they died in this process

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>because they were either beaten to death, starved to death,

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 1>kidnapped off the boat, thrown off the boat, killed in weather,

0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 1>whatever the funk it is, which means that more than

0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 1>we can account for are pretty pissed about what happened

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 1>to them. Yeah, I'm all the way believing it now

0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:59.320
<v Speaker 1>now that you just went on with the research, like

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm so like, like, I fight the motherfuck about this

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 1>ship now. So one of the counters that we started

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 1>talked about previously that I think is worth us talking

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 1>about again because it comes up a lot in some

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 1>of the things that I'm reading is basically black people

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 1>who are writing articles about this basically being like, hey, look,

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I get it. It's a nice feeling to believe it,

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:29.680
<v Speaker 1>but it also is a very fucked up thing to

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 1>suggest that these souls are never going to find peace,

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 1>that they're just constantly seeking vengeance forever and always for

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:40.880
<v Speaker 1>what happened to them and never going to you know,

0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 1>heaven or whatever you believe in for like their souls

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 1>to be at rest. Yeah. Man, I don't know how

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 1>goals work, but I mean I don't know that. I

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know, Like like like you, they just gonna say

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:57.200
<v Speaker 1>that ship and then not have a suggestion for what

0:33:57.240 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 1>to do about it, go out and let him know,

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 1>like yo, we good? Were good? Are you saying that

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 1>when you're on a carnival cruise ship. Are you talking

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:07.959
<v Speaker 1>to spear? Are you sitting there drinking my ties and

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:11.319
<v Speaker 1>slide down and goddamn slide Talk to the spirits, be

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:14.839
<v Speaker 1>like I made it, bitch, I gotta fall one came like,

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 1>talk to him. Play Obama's speech here. You know what

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, like, Yeah, don't just throw out what you

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 1>think it shouldn't be. Give a fucking answer to what

0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:29.319
<v Speaker 1>it is, because the reality is these ghosts might be

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 1>upset and they might need your comfort. They might need

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 1>you to step in and be like, hey, relax, we'll

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 1>figure it out from here. I don't know how ghost

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:41.399
<v Speaker 1>work all the way, None of them know what I mean. Yeah,

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 1>So if they're like, oh, that's that's messed up to

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:46.839
<v Speaker 1>think that they'll never get No, No, it's messed up

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 1>to think how they got there. You know what I'm saying, like, Yeah,

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 1>the whole situation messed up. Like what do you like

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:56.280
<v Speaker 1>you can't tell a ghost like, I'm sorry, you can't

0:34:56.320 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 1>make it right. This is where I start to get

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 1>even more conspiratorial, right because I think that one of

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 1>the things that I read it sort of comes from

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:09.800
<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about right now, is a bunch of

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:12.319
<v Speaker 1>people being like, I don't like the idea of the

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:15.920
<v Speaker 1>slaves having to spend their life vengeful and sad forever

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 1>and always, and then other people being like, yeah, and

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty fucked up to think that these slaves are

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:23.879
<v Speaker 1>attacking their own people. I don't want to believe in this.

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 1>But what I started to think, what I started, and

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:28.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna whisper at you for a second, I'm gonna

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 1>get real quiet. What I started to think was maybe

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:35.239
<v Speaker 1>these slaves are not in fact attacking people at all,

0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 1>but they're attacking the system that put them in servitude

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 1>in shackles in the first place. So these slaves are

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:49.880
<v Speaker 1>not attacking any individual, but instead attacking capitalism. Right, every

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 1>time that a hurricane hits the US or hits one

0:35:53.200 --> 0:36:00.279
<v Speaker 1>of these places, the economy gets fucked things in that city, tourism, money,

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 1>it's getting ruined by these category four, category five storms, right,

0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:08.799
<v Speaker 1>And so at the end of the day, capitalisms would

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:12.480
<v Speaker 1>put me in these shackles. Capitalism is what I'm angry at.

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:15.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't give a fuck who's on the other side

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:21.760
<v Speaker 1>of that, black, brown, white otherwise. Yeah, yeah, it's the system.

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 1>So it means that until you give us like some

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 1>type of reparations. You gotta tag of the money if

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:32.279
<v Speaker 1>you want these souls to rest. Yeah, you would like

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:39.279
<v Speaker 1>these souls to rest. My brother, your great money. Give

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 1>me your great money for one year, one year, and

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:50.520
<v Speaker 1>I will rests. I will put sixteen souls to rest.

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:56.279
<v Speaker 1>Give me your great money. I do. I think at

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 1>the root of this, we are talking about the potential

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:05.280
<v Speaker 1>of like how money controls everything. Right, money was the

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 1>ultimate cause of why these souls were taken in the

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 1>first place, and so there's a very logical possibility that

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 1>money is the thing, or this type of money is

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 1>the thing that these souls are angry at that. Yeah,

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:26.799
<v Speaker 1>ye that believe. I'm with it. Capitalism yep, y'all. They

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 1>give us no money, yep, y'all. Still killing black folks, yep,

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:34.120
<v Speaker 1>they're still doing it. They look over before they come,

0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 1>They look over to see if it's right before they come.

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:40.759
<v Speaker 1>They still on that ship. Come on there. Oh wait

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:44.240
<v Speaker 1>a minute, Jeff Bezos, guy, how much? Yeah, we're gonna

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 1>have to fuck some ship up. We gotta ron y'all,

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:51.879
<v Speaker 1>let's go. Okay, this is the last thing that I'll

0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:54.919
<v Speaker 1>throw out to you as even more support for your

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:58.319
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theory. I think it's more support. But one of

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:00.360
<v Speaker 1>the things that kept coming up was the idea that

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 1>hurricanes every year become more and more extreme. Right that, like,

0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 1>we're not talking about the same even quality and quantity

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:13.759
<v Speaker 1>of hurricanes as we were talking about back when the

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 1>slave trade was originally happening, which does in fact suggest

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 1>the possibility that these slaves are these souls are uniting

0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:26.800
<v Speaker 1>to seek vengeance. Now, you could argue that that's all

0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 1>the result of global warming and you know the damage

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 1>that we're doing to the earth, or you could argue, now,

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:37.840
<v Speaker 1>these slaves just get matter and matter every year. I mean, however,

0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:40.760
<v Speaker 1>you want to look at it. Either way work because

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:43.239
<v Speaker 1>if it's getting hotter than that, they're getting more powerful.

0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:47.239
<v Speaker 1>That's your faults too, your fault. It's all your phone,

0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 1>you mean global warming is oh yeah, well, well then

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:54.880
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna get stronger. This is something you did, because

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:57.520
<v Speaker 1>they died because it's something you did. So that's how

0:38:57.560 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 1>it would work if it was an anime or something

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 1>ship right, Like, I like that because I think that

0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:06.880
<v Speaker 1>that actually connects us right back to where we were

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:11.360
<v Speaker 1>with the economy. Right, is that ultimately you are continuing

0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:17.080
<v Speaker 1>to create the negative results of what you built from

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 1>this slave trade. You're growing all this negativity which leads us,

0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:26.399
<v Speaker 1>which takes us even further into the possibility that these

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:32.120
<v Speaker 1>souls are seeking vengeance. Yeah. Hell yet. All right, we're

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:34.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna take one more break and then we'll be back

0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:36.799
<v Speaker 1>with more Clayton English and more. My mama told me,

0:39:47.080 --> 0:40:04.040
<v Speaker 1>And we are back. You could do so you you

0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:11.440
<v Speaker 1>you could. Yeah, we're back. We're playing English more. My

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:18.439
<v Speaker 1>mama told me. We're spitting We're spitting off the coach. Yes, yes,

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to play a game. We're gonna play a

0:40:22.600 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 1>quick game. And this game is called Okay Homemade Hotep.

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:32.239
<v Speaker 1>It's a very simple game where I am going to

0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 1>introduce to you a pretty standard fact out in the world,

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:37.800
<v Speaker 1>and then what I would like for you to do

0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:40.839
<v Speaker 1>is hotep the ship out of it, add all the

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 1>flavoring and a nuance that you need to add to

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 1>it to make it as conspiratorial as possible. Do whatever

0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:51.560
<v Speaker 1>you want to add some flare to this bad boy. Right,

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 1>So we're talking about natural disasters, and what I started

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 1>to think was, Okay, if hurricanes are in fact the

0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:01.960
<v Speaker 1>souls of something, what else could be the souls of something.

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 1>And so what I would like for you to do

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 1>is dig into earthquakes. Three sixteen thousand people died from

0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:16.839
<v Speaker 1>earthquakes in three sixteen thousand people internationally died from earthquakes.

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:18.959
<v Speaker 1>What I would love for you to do is talk

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:22.400
<v Speaker 1>to me about what you think those earthquakes are seeking

0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:27.120
<v Speaker 1>vengeance for. Is for fucking up the mountains and other ship,

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:30.879
<v Speaker 1>Like anytime you funk with rock YEP. They don't like that.

0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Every time you crack the foundation on one side of

0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 1>the earth the other side, they don't like that. They

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:39.480
<v Speaker 1>don't like that. They want to be how they want

0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:41.960
<v Speaker 1>to be shaped and formed how they want to form.

0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. They want to be shaped

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:45.399
<v Speaker 1>by weather and water. They don't want you coming in

0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 1>with jack hammers and big as motherfucker drills. And so

0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 1>every crack eventually is gonna keep goddamn quaking because y'all

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 1>keep cracking ship, and you keep on cracking ship, and

0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:59.400
<v Speaker 1>you don't stop cracking ship until you stop cracking. Even

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:01.759
<v Speaker 1>cracking is cracking a lot of people don't know that

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:09.280
<v Speaker 1>cracking is cracking. Cracking is cracking. I like that and

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:11.400
<v Speaker 1>talk to me a little bit about the who the

0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:14.560
<v Speaker 1>day is? Who is the day in this? Anybody who

0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:19.440
<v Speaker 1>building some ship that's too big, that don't need no problem.

0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 1>But you're trying to build a motherfucker guitar shaped hotel

0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 1>that earthquake, baby, that's gonna sunk up somebody's home on

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:30.839
<v Speaker 1>the other side of the earth. You arrogant bitch. Why

0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:34.080
<v Speaker 1>do you need a hotel shaped like a guitar? Come on,

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:37.200
<v Speaker 1>what is that for? Who? Who is that? Who does

0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:40.719
<v Speaker 1>that benefit? Who sees that TACKI ship? And it's like,

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I've got to stay there. I want to stay right

0:42:43.000 --> 0:42:46.840
<v Speaker 1>in the neck of that giant, shitty guitar. No, that

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:49.760
<v Speaker 1>is something that needs to come down. And you're saying

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:52.840
<v Speaker 1>that the souls of the earth, really the Earth is

0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:58.120
<v Speaker 1>responding it and fighting back against that bullshit. Right, Yeah,

0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:01.760
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I think we did it. Clayton English,

0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 1>what a great episode. Could you tell the people where

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:08.239
<v Speaker 1>they could find you? Where you going on? Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>Clayton English on everything social media, all the Instagram is

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<v Speaker 1>just Clayton English. One word YouTube. I got the thing

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<v Speaker 1>called Dope Movies. Check that out. Keep supporting everything. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be doing eighty five sous a bunch of stuff coming.

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<v Speaker 1>So hey, come on, let's go Yeah, go funk with Clayton,

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<v Speaker 1>Go listen to this ship, go watch you got an

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<v Speaker 1>album to Clayton the same, listen to rock with him.

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<v Speaker 1>And as always, you can follow me at Lenks and

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<v Speaker 1>Kerman on all this stuff. Oh and if you have drops,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you have theories, or if you have stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you want to send me, send it to my mama

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<v Speaker 1>pod at gmail dot com. You've been great. Bye of

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<v Speaker 1>Owst money versions and many turney stuff. I can't tell

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<v Speaker 1>me that my