Speaker 1: Jesse Venture just shows up and he's like, what do
Speaker 1: y'all have in here? Why can't we take a tour tour?
Speaker 1: You have a tour once a year? Does that make
Speaker 1: sense to you? Doesn't make sense to me? What do
Speaker 1: you got in there? Back there? And he's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I love that. I love the idea that he's showing
Speaker 1: up the places and being like, I want to fucking tour.
Speaker 1: And he's like, sir, nobody tours. This isn't that kind
Speaker 1: of place. It's not an issue of us hiding something.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to be here. He's like, no, show me
Speaker 1: the fucking back. That's why racist money in terms of
Speaker 1: stuff can't tell me. Yep, there it is. There it is.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode of My Mama
Speaker 1: Told Me, the podcast where we dive deep deep into
Speaker 1: the pockets of black conspiracy theories and we proved that
Speaker 1: Lizzo's DNA tests was only ninete percent that bitch and
Speaker 1: three percent Guatemalan. She's lying to you people. She ain't
Speaker 1: all that bitch. She's a little bit watermalin and she
Speaker 1: needs to be honest about it. I am your host,
Speaker 1: likes to Kerman as always, I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1: My guest today is a phenomenal comedian, hilarious person, a
Speaker 1: dear friend, a person who I think we started sort
Speaker 1: of our formative years in Hollywood together. We did New
Speaker 1: Faces together, we'd we sort of bonded as young pupils
Speaker 1: in the world of comedy. And he SIPs going on
Speaker 1: to do amazing ship. He was on last Comedy Scanning,
Speaker 1: He's been on Comedy Central eighty bio. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: from the Sound show one of the funniest goddamn podcasts
Speaker 1: there is. You know him, you love him? Give it
Speaker 1: up for my friend Mr Clayton Elend. Yeah, man, what's up? Man?
Speaker 1: You got some bars and the theme? So, man, you
Speaker 1: got some bars? Yeah, it's you know I. Nick Chambers,
Speaker 1: who's a very hilarious comedian out in New York, helped
Speaker 1: me put that bad Boy together. We wrote some lyrics together.
Speaker 1: He did all the music because I suck at it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's I came together nice. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a little bout man. Go here and put that on Spotify. Man,
Speaker 1: we gotta get that on the Spotify. Players of one song,
Speaker 1: just that, Where are you right now? Where are you.
Speaker 1: I'm in l A. Yeah, I know we have similar
Speaker 1: backgrounds where it looks like we are being held hostage,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm in l A. I swear I can
Speaker 1: see a palm. Try, I swear, just in a blank
Speaker 1: room with nothing in it. Yeah. The thing is my wife. Uh,
Speaker 1: We're in a new house and I'm in the closet
Speaker 1: literally speaking, not metaphorically. I'm in the closet, and she
Speaker 1: got a room to herself to do her work. So
Speaker 1: this is my deal. I'm in a closet with a
Speaker 1: bunch of pillows and ship and that's marriage. You get
Speaker 1: a house, you get a closet. Absolutely, it's the compromise
Speaker 1: that she made, and I guess I agreed to it.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Anyway, this is exciting. I'm happy you're
Speaker 1: here because you came to me with maybe this. It's
Speaker 1: interesting because I mentioned it to you before. It's a
Speaker 1: conspiracy that I personally had not heard a lot of.
Speaker 1: But a fan of the show d m and basically said,
Speaker 1: you got to talk about this, And I was so
Speaker 1: excited that this was one of the options you sent me.
Speaker 1: But you said, my mama told me hurricanes are the
Speaker 1: souls of slaves lost in the Middle passage. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what whips up hurricanes because it's the route they took, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So they started Africa and
Speaker 1: then they always sunk up the South like yes, so yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's like black slaves, so freak nick and
Speaker 1: it's just kind of a caravan and they just culminate
Speaker 1: and you know, it's just slaves torking their way all
Speaker 1: the way to Atlanta to just funk up some ship.
Speaker 1: They never can quite make it to Atlanta, so it's
Speaker 1: always somewhere in the Gulf it gets hit you know, Florida, Alabama,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, the gold like where in
Speaker 1: Texas they're dreaming for they're dreaming for the opportunities to
Speaker 1: get to Atlanta to make their mark in the world
Speaker 1: of Tyler Perry's studios. But unfortunately they don't make it
Speaker 1: that far, and it's that they get stuck and goddamn
Speaker 1: Mississippi or wherever end up blowing away for the trailer parks. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is it. I feel like maybe one of the
Speaker 1: the more like at least on paper, insane conspiracy theories
Speaker 1: that a person could present that these souls have transformed
Speaker 1: into hurricanes and are attacking the states and other places.
Speaker 1: Talk to me about where you first heard this, Where
Speaker 1: does this first come into your your life. So my
Speaker 1: family is from Pensacola, Florida, So hurricane just away of
Speaker 1: life down there. And for so long Pensacola would always
Speaker 1: get missed, it always get missed. When they finally got hit,
Speaker 1: it actually just got hit. My granddad's house got sucked
Speaker 1: up with the last hurricane that just happened. Now, So yeah,
Speaker 1: he's good. Everybody good. Yeah. Yeah. So around that you
Speaker 1: start hearing the hurricane story and it's so many like
Speaker 1: hurricane conspiracy theories I pay attention to maybe too much,
Speaker 1: like like like I funk with weather control, I funk
Speaker 1: with whatever kode that black say on that s song
Speaker 1: with like like win ain't got no one, ain't where
Speaker 1: you think Hurricane hard it from. I just I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: oh this the wind don't have a name. This alleged
Speaker 1: rapeissess talking that talk. I like what he's saying, Florida
Speaker 1: is a duality. Motherfucker's is gonna be the most fucked
Speaker 1: up individual you could be. And then say some ship
Speaker 1: that damn near makes motherfucking perfect Florida gives you that
Speaker 1: perfect storm, if you will, just insanity and like, you
Speaker 1: know a lot, You've seen a lot because that's why
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, you're like because it's like it's clicks
Speaker 1: some like, yeah, a lot of And if you you
Speaker 1: can't watch people wrestle alligators and fucking do wild Florida
Speaker 1: ship and then expect them to just come with reason logic,
Speaker 1: They're coming with Florida logic. And that doesn't make it wrong,
Speaker 1: that just makes it specific to the experience they have
Speaker 1: right right there, you go, yeah, hell yeah. So you're
Speaker 1: growing up, you're around hurricanes enough or at least like
Speaker 1: hearing about hurricanes enough that this comes up. And what
Speaker 1: is your first thought? Are you bought in? Are you like,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, I believe you. Yes, I want to believe it,
Speaker 1: but I don't actually like on a karmic level. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that ship is dope. And then I went to school
Speaker 1: in Tallahassee, I went to Florida and m so then
Speaker 1: you started getting around motherfucker's that have behold the Pale Horse.
Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, Like everything I still
Speaker 1: think hurricanes is the spirits of the motherfucker's that didn't
Speaker 1: make it? Like that ship just sounds like a good
Speaker 1: fuck it. It's a good fucking movie. If we put
Speaker 1: on the ship and it was a hurricane and niggas
Speaker 1: are found them mad about slavery, that would be horrifying
Speaker 1: for the white viewer. Yeah, it's I will say, it's
Speaker 1: a goddamn great ghost story. And like you're saying, it's
Speaker 1: a fantastic movie. And I don't know if it's rooted
Speaker 1: in any truth, but damn does this feel like a
Speaker 1: thing that would be exciting to watch in a sweet
Speaker 1: justice to serve out to the So I always like
Speaker 1: believed it just for the hope of it because it
Speaker 1: sounds good. Ship, just sound good man. Like, sure, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not gonna die about this, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm not gonna you know, it's rapper ship.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a little bit of a flex you flex. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I believe it, Like it's just the path, just
Speaker 1: the path alone is what really sells it. Like, right,
Speaker 1: you can't argue with where hurricanes originating where they wind up, right,
Speaker 1: So for our listeners at home, what Clayton is referring to.
Speaker 1: And this is something that I unpacked in the research,
Speaker 1: is that hurricanes generally generate from West Africa. That like
Speaker 1: literally they follow the Atlantic slave trade route, starting in
Speaker 1: West Africa and then moving towards the Caribbean and then
Speaker 1: South America and North America and sort of like the
Speaker 1: spitting formation towards like these other continents and spaces formation.
Speaker 1: Come on, you believe it, you believe Listen. When I
Speaker 1: first heard, I was like, this is silly. This will
Speaker 1: be a fun thing to talk about, but I don't
Speaker 1: know what I believe. And then I started looking at
Speaker 1: some of those maps. I'm like, God, damn, this Look
Speaker 1: how it's spreading out. Look how it's like attacking these
Speaker 1: specific places, Like there's vengeance to be served. This feels
Speaker 1: vengeful in a way that I didn't anticipate that it
Speaker 1: was spinning like it's you know what I mean when
Speaker 1: he was mad at the camera, like spitting right, suck y'all. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you wanted to believe it? At any point did
Speaker 1: you jump off of the train of belief? Was there
Speaker 1: anything that sort of like made you go, I fun,
Speaker 1: this is where I have trouble with it. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: when black people kept getting sucked up by the hurricane.
Speaker 1: That's you know what I'm saying that right, it's hard
Speaker 1: to say that this is like serving up justice when
Speaker 1: the only people who really suffered in Katrina were just
Speaker 1: black people trapped on roofs, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But then you know, that's a whole another conspiracy, you know,
Speaker 1: with the levies and everything. Okay, wait, talk to me
Speaker 1: on that. Wait, talk to me a little bit about
Speaker 1: the conspiracy behind the levees. I don't know, oh man, Okay,
Speaker 1: So when Katrina happened in order to save the money
Speaker 1: making part of New Orleans, it's people that claim that
Speaker 1: they heard explosions that lived near the levees, and the
Speaker 1: levees broke supposedly flooded a lot of the black areas
Speaker 1: that was you know, it's like they decided what was
Speaker 1: worth you know what I'm saying, how can we alleviate
Speaker 1: this pressure? And all right? Send it there? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, It's a instead of the levies breaking randomly,
Speaker 1: which could have affected everyone, the levies were destroyed, like
Speaker 1: blown up in a specific area that made sure that
Speaker 1: this specific group were the only people who suffered from it, right. Yeah. Wow,
Speaker 1: I had never heard that before, but ship, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: in um you know, Spike Lee got long documentary about it.
Speaker 1: It was like stuff that was known. I remember, like
Speaker 1: I was in Atlanta at the time, and I just
Speaker 1: was seeing people from New Orleans like flood Atlanta, and
Speaker 1: you hear their stories and stuff, and it was like,
Speaker 1: damn it, man, it has at least an air of
Speaker 1: a possibility behind it because of how cities are often
Speaker 1: set up. Right and you sort of were talking about
Speaker 1: it a second ago, but so many hurricanes leave black
Speaker 1: brown and pour people in their wake, like they are
Speaker 1: the ones who suffer the most that they hurricanes. And
Speaker 1: that's not because like we're goofy and just don't know
Speaker 1: where to be. It's because fucking cities are structured in
Speaker 1: a way that ensure that black people are the first
Speaker 1: in line when some bullshit happens, right, Yeah, we usually
Speaker 1: pushed to the edge. Hm, Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We pushed to the edge, and do they want to
Speaker 1: come to the edge, and then when they want to
Speaker 1: come back, like it's just like a motherfucking constant ripple
Speaker 1: of gentrification And all right, y'all, Nis can come back,
Speaker 1: get back out there, come back there like stupid man. Right.
Speaker 1: You know, you hear about all the Caribbean I ends
Speaker 1: where like they get fucking terrible damage from hurricanes and
Speaker 1: all the things that happened, but it never happens on
Speaker 1: any of those resorts. The resorts are always fine because
Speaker 1: they have a clear strategy of like, oh, we know
Speaker 1: where the hurricanes always hit, and even if we suffer
Speaker 1: a little bit, this isn't gonna take our entire property,
Speaker 1: whereas like the people that live on this island, we're
Speaker 1: gonna put y'all right in the fucking way and you're
Speaker 1: gonna take the brunt of everything that's happening. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: didn't even think about that, but yeah, that's true. And
Speaker 1: I just thought, you know, I mean, what poor people
Speaker 1: gonna lose more because they got less, right. Yeah. Fuck,
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel good to hear it out loud, but
Speaker 1: that's very correct, no matter, but yeah, it all. It
Speaker 1: actually only took a little bit of rain to take
Speaker 1: everything because we don't have ship, but we didn't lose
Speaker 1: everything in the process. Oh man. Okay, So when you
Speaker 1: start to balance the fact that is mostly black people,
Speaker 1: brown people, poor people, suffering at the hands of these hurricanes.
Speaker 1: What do you think or do you think there's any
Speaker 1: connection in like what that could mean for the slave trader?
Speaker 1: Is that just the failure of that premise? No, I
Speaker 1: just think it. Uh it don't care. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like this ship happened. Man, whatever the fuck
Speaker 1: is up there is gonna get it. Like, yeah, sorry, y'all,
Speaker 1: Like like we just don't spray the block, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, yeah, yeah, we're sorry. Who got
Speaker 1: hit got hit, but we're spraying. You said it, you
Speaker 1: said spitting, You said right, So right, niggas shooting. They
Speaker 1: ain't shooting for the kids. But if a right, that
Speaker 1: was part of that. Man, I'm sorry, but they this
Speaker 1: beef has ever lasted, right. You see what this motherfucker
Speaker 1: did to me, did to my family. Fuck y'all, I
Speaker 1: don't give it ship. If you gotta an El Dorado
Speaker 1: parked in your yard, I got shipped to do. I
Speaker 1: got justice to serve. Okay. So, in sub ways, it
Speaker 1: sounds like the people that are living in these spaces
Speaker 1: are for the souls of these slaves, a necessary sacrifice
Speaker 1: or a potential sacrifice that they're willing to make for
Speaker 1: their grander justice. Oh, I ain't think about it like
Speaker 1: a sacrifice. I just thought about it like on I
Speaker 1: don't know, I didn't think about it that far. You
Speaker 1: gotta be thinking about it more and more now. But yeah,
Speaker 1: like I said it, I can't really call that. I
Speaker 1: just got back from can Koon. Right. We went down
Speaker 1: to Mexico and my wife and I like literally dodged
Speaker 1: a hurricane as we were leaving, Like, the hotel called
Speaker 1: up yesterday morning. They were like, hey, we're sending people
Speaker 1: to a shelter. I know y'all are leaving soon, but
Speaker 1: y'all trying to go to that shelter too or what
Speaker 1: was happening? And we were like, no, no, no, we're
Speaker 1: gonna leave immediately when trying to stick this out. And
Speaker 1: I think even that, right, like that idea of being
Speaker 1: able to move a bunch of people, you know, that
Speaker 1: are on some resort they didn't tell, to a shelter
Speaker 1: is an option that most poor people don't have, right,
Speaker 1: It's that's a luxury, that's a resource, even though the
Speaker 1: shelter probably was gonna be bunk beds and like bologney sandwiches, right, Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: it was gonna be some bulletshit. Definitely. It was like,
Speaker 1: you think you're moving a resort adjacent, Now, buddy, you're
Speaker 1: gonna drop all the way off. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess when they know they're coming and it's super big,
Speaker 1: they do try to evacuate. So I mean, but you know,
Speaker 1: people stay if they want to stay. I think that
Speaker 1: goes to the grander issue, right, is that like when
Speaker 1: you know it's big, when you have the resources to
Speaker 1: be able to check these things and plan and have
Speaker 1: somewhere to go. Fuck, yeah, now, okay, cool, I'll leave.
Speaker 1: But if I'm somebody who in no way has any
Speaker 1: other resources, has nowhere else to go, couldn't tell you
Speaker 1: how to leave in the first place, I'm fucking stuck
Speaker 1: and I'm trapping the thing. And that isn't I think
Speaker 1: the result of these souls or these slaves. That's just
Speaker 1: the result of the slave owners continuing to pull their bullshit. Right, So,
Speaker 1: these could be the souls of these slaves trying to
Speaker 1: do the justice that they want to do, But unfortunately
Speaker 1: slave owners have maintained a type of control the souls
Speaker 1: from protecting themselves or doing the right thing, rather right
Speaker 1: right right, people in the way. They shouldn't be in
Speaker 1: the way right like they saw it. They saw it
Speaker 1: a long time ago, Like or does he keep happening?
Speaker 1: They were throwing people off the boats and like, Oh,
Speaker 1: he's gonna come back. That motherfucker's gonna be mad at me.
Speaker 1: I gotta do. I gotta start playing chess because if
Speaker 1: he come back, I'm gonna get sucked up. Okay, we're
Speaker 1: gonna take a break and then we're gonna come back
Speaker 1: with more Clayton English and more, my mama told me.
Speaker 1: And we are back. Yeah, we're back here with more
Speaker 1: Clayton English, more. And my mama told me. We're still
Speaker 1: talking about the souls of the slaves loss in the
Speaker 1: Middle Passage and the possibility that they might be hurricanes
Speaker 1: out here, Batman in the ship, out of the people
Speaker 1: that hurt them and the ancestors of the people that
Speaker 1: hurt them. Wait, you were telling me, and this is exciting.
Speaker 1: You were telling me about some of the weather control
Speaker 1: stuff that you've been looking up. Oh yeah, yeah, the
Speaker 1: hard thing. But Jesse Ventura, the wrestler and then the governor, dude,
Speaker 1: he had a conspiracy theory show and he would go
Speaker 1: around to these places and it was basically a wrestler
Speaker 1: harassing people about ship that nobody's supposed to be talking about. Right, wait,
Speaker 1: so what was this? What was it on? Was it
Speaker 1: like public Access ship? No, it was it was on
Speaker 1: a real channel. I think he maybe had one season.
Speaker 1: It was like, um, it was on one of the channels.
Speaker 1: That's something else. Now. It was like True TV before
Speaker 1: they started doing comedy, probably when it was like they
Speaker 1: was judge shows and then they didn't know what they
Speaker 1: wanted to do. It was true I got the True brother.
Speaker 1: He was the thing that pushed them into comedy. They
Speaker 1: were like, hey, we can't keep doing this man, Jesse
Speaker 1: don't know how to act. We got to get practical jokers,
Speaker 1: and we got to get somebody in here. This is
Speaker 1: going too far. I like Jesse Vntour because I feel
Speaker 1: like in the videos that I've watched of his work,
Speaker 1: it's like every I would say, fifth thing that he
Speaker 1: says is like hell yeah, dog, you're fucking killing it,
Speaker 1: and then everything else just sounds like a promo video
Speaker 1: for raw you know what I mean. It's just a
Speaker 1: dude talking crazy crazy Yeah. But he would have the information.
Speaker 1: They'd be like Okay, heart runs off the same frequency
Speaker 1: that your brain way operate off of. Originally started as
Speaker 1: a cloud seating program. You know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 1: can shoot it into the eye on the sphere. But
Speaker 1: like a reverse reaction, like if you do some ship
Speaker 1: up this way, some ship's gonna happen on the other
Speaker 1: side of the earth. That like some crazy ship like
Speaker 1: supposedly Tesla technology or whatever. But yeah, that's where I
Speaker 1: first heard about the hardship and I got you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's about the end of my research for it too.
Speaker 1: I looked it up a little bit. But then I
Speaker 1: also didn't want like Jesse Venture come and asking me
Speaker 1: about it, or like I wasn't even really worried about
Speaker 1: the authorities, Like if the authorities came, I gonna be
Speaker 1: like I was hot. I was looking around. Come on,
Speaker 1: I love drugs. What are you talking? We can't geat
Speaker 1: no more. Oh you're saying smoking is illegal in most states?
Speaker 1: All right, you tubing man, cool co. All right, here's
Speaker 1: what I want to do. I want to get into
Speaker 1: some of this research because I found, and this surprised me,
Speaker 1: that there is a fair amount of not crazy things
Speaker 1: sort of cooked into what it seems like an otherwise
Speaker 1: just spiritual, emotionally driven conspiracy theory. Let's start with some
Speaker 1: of the actual crazy things that I read. One of
Speaker 1: the things that I read said that some people claim
Speaker 1: that specifically the souls of black women are the ones
Speaker 1: that are these hurricanes, which is why they're called her
Speaker 1: It can't that is just the women who were I
Speaker 1: guess of childbearing age, and that's why we call them hurricanes.
Speaker 1: But it's specifically black women who are attacking the US
Speaker 1: and the Caribbean with their souls, if you will any
Speaker 1: thoughts on that that move you in any way? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it makes sense the manner in which the hurricane moves,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like it's a necro of
Speaker 1: a storm, you know what I mean, Like it attacks hard,
Speaker 1: then it takes a break, and then you see it
Speaker 1: coming ain't ship you can do about it, And then
Speaker 1: you look it in his eyes and you try to
Speaker 1: calm it down. But no, does she taking a break.
Speaker 1: She just resting up in a good way. Though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want the women at home to think that
Speaker 1: we're saying horrible things to generalize them. We're merely making
Speaker 1: fun of you, ladies, because we're afraid of you, and
Speaker 1: you hold a powerful way and certainly my heart, and
Speaker 1: I think Clayton's as well. Here's another one that I
Speaker 1: thought was fun. Some people claim that the path of
Speaker 1: the hurricane, that like the trail that you talked about
Speaker 1: a bit, moving from West Africa to the Caribbean to
Speaker 1: North America to South America, looks suspiciously like the path
Speaker 1: of the Firefox logo. That like it's somehow and and
Speaker 1: ide nickel movement of the firefox shifting downward and then
Speaker 1: over like that around the world. And I don't know
Speaker 1: what that's supposed to mean, like maybe you know they
Speaker 1: knew the whole time, or that we are black people
Speaker 1: are the fox on fire. I'm not sure the implications,
Speaker 1: but that's the theory that's popping up a lot. It
Speaker 1: looks like the Firefox logo, so that means Firefox logo people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had to know what the hurricane path look like, Okay,
Speaker 1: because it's so many ways to make a fox, and
Speaker 1: that fox is not a really cousin fox. You could
Speaker 1: have made a cute, cuddling fox or something fox that
Speaker 1: people like seeing. You don't really like seeing that fox.
Speaker 1: He don't know that's a demon fox, and they knew
Speaker 1: what they were doing when they made it. That's a
Speaker 1: goddamn demon fox. That's a nerd to fox if I've
Speaker 1: ever seen one, and it's bessuming the earth. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: a fox that can fly around the globe. No, that's
Speaker 1: not the fox. See, they knew they they were up
Speaker 1: to something. I don't know what they were up to,
Speaker 1: but they were up to something. Here's another one that
Speaker 1: doesn't make a lot of sense. But when I typed
Speaker 1: in our hurricanes the souls of one of the things
Speaker 1: that auto feels automatically on Google's people saying our hurricanes,
Speaker 1: the souls of the people lost on nine eleven, that
Speaker 1: like the people in the Twin Towers for some reason,
Speaker 1: who were because it happens in September. I yes, I
Speaker 1: don't whose were they're born? When were they hurricanes just started.
Speaker 1: It's weird to me because it's like, why would the people,
Speaker 1: the souls of the people lost in nine eleven be like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm about to funk up New Orleans.
Speaker 1: I'm about to go beat the ship out of out
Speaker 1: of Haiti. I'm gonna go I'm gonna go tear Florida
Speaker 1: Park because of what happened to me in a plane crash,
Speaker 1: unrelated to any of these places. Let me go, I
Speaker 1: gover to these decories. Yeah, what is that listening to
Speaker 1: Jimmy Buffett. I'm about to get that, bitch. I love that. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's dig into some of the more legitimate science or
Speaker 1: reasoning behind some of these things. So you mentioned it
Speaker 1: before that the hurricane travels the path of the Atlantic
Speaker 1: slave trade. Eighty five. Apparently of hurricanes, certainly the ones
Speaker 1: that hit the US form off the coast of West Africa.
Speaker 1: So eight. This isn't just like you know, us being
Speaker 1: dramatic about the number. This is legit that like almost
Speaker 1: every hurricane that comes to the US was formed off
Speaker 1: the coast of West Africa. That's crazy. So like if
Speaker 1: you think about that, and like let's say basketball term,
Speaker 1: if a motherfucker's shooting for three mm hmm, we yeah, killing,
Speaker 1: it's over like like out on your a, Like dep
Speaker 1: don't even do that, Like your shots are on target? Yea,
Speaker 1: where the other ones originate from? Did this say that?
Speaker 1: I probably did. I didn't. Here's how I do my research.
Speaker 1: Like a nigga who didn't go to school for journalism.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, I just read the part
Speaker 1: that interests me and then I move on as to
Speaker 1: not add any kerfuffle in my brain, noting that makes sense.
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering where else There was probably somewhere else
Speaker 1: they sucked over too, you know what I'm saying, right,
Speaker 1: Like it might even be a little white country. It's
Speaker 1: probably Ireland or some ship. Right. I love that. I
Speaker 1: love that there's the only other hurricanes just are the
Speaker 1: souls of like these irritated Irish people who were being
Speaker 1: treated as indentured servants when they came to America, and
Speaker 1: they want their justice too, but nobody gives a fuck.
Speaker 1: That's great, Okay, So this is where I started to
Speaker 1: become a little bit conspiratorial myself in all of this.
Speaker 1: Hurricanes are formed through low pressure air below basically being
Speaker 1: surrounded by high pressure air that moves in over the
Speaker 1: low pressure air, and then it starts to warm and rise,
Speaker 1: and then the rising air cools and condenses and they
Speaker 1: form like these spinning cloud cycles. Right, And so when
Speaker 1: I start to think about the low pressure and the
Speaker 1: high pressure, my metaphorical brain kicks in and I'm like,
Speaker 1: who had low pressure in these situations, slave owners who
Speaker 1: had the high pressure, the people being stolen and beaten
Speaker 1: and in these situations, so maybe that high pressure is
Speaker 1: the slave spirits moving in over these low pressure zones,
Speaker 1: creating the hurricanes and then moving westward to funk up
Speaker 1: some ship. That's crazy, that's there. So high pressure it
Speaker 1: means low pressure, and the storms just start whipping up exactly.
Speaker 1: So it's probably like a bunch of little fights. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it makes sense in the whole goddamn all out brawl. Yes,
Speaker 1: And part of it is that. And this is where
Speaker 1: it gets even sort of more clearly. The brawl that
Speaker 1: you're talking about is that high pressure area or that
Speaker 1: high pressure is coming off of the Sahara, off this
Speaker 1: dry sort of like land where it's like desert e
Speaker 1: and then moving into this moist sort of low pressure
Speaker 1: southern Atlantic water, and then that's when the mixture happens,
Speaker 1: and that's when everything is happening. So it's literally coming
Speaker 1: from the body of the land in the desert where
Speaker 1: the people were from, and then moving over the body
Speaker 1: of where the oppressors, these colonizers were coming from, creating
Speaker 1: the hurricanes that then transferred to America. Man, that's dope.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you did this research because I didn't look
Speaker 1: up ship Listen, that's not your responsibility. You just gotta
Speaker 1: be funny, and you're killing it. Man, that's crazy. So
Speaker 1: it comes from the land and then goes over to
Speaker 1: where the people was coming from. That was taking to
Speaker 1: people from where they were from, over the water all
Speaker 1: the way to go out and meet the low pressure
Speaker 1: situation exactly. So here's the other thing that I think
Speaker 1: was fascinating when I pulled from all of the like
Speaker 1: the facts about the slave trade is that the journey
Speaker 1: to the quote unquote New World that they were basically
Speaker 1: calling the Middle Passage lasted anywhere from six to twelve weeks,
Speaker 1: assuming that there were no other disruptions, which included things
Speaker 1: like pirates, rivals, slave ships, or even hurricanes themselves. Right
Speaker 1: that like, assuming you were able to make the trip
Speaker 1: without any disruptions, it still took you damn near what
Speaker 1: three months to get from the coast of Africa too,
Speaker 1: wherever you were going be at the core South America
Speaker 1: whatever that is. In that time, only of the people
Speaker 1: that they're capturing are making it all the way through
Speaker 1: this journey, So lots and lots of people are dying
Speaker 1: in this process only making it, I believe. So I
Speaker 1: could have misread that and it could have been that
Speaker 1: thirteen percent or dying, but I'm pretty sure that it's
Speaker 1: saying yeah, either way, a ship ton of people, a
Speaker 1: big portion of the people that are making this trip
Speaker 1: are dying in the process, which leads further to your
Speaker 1: suggestion that there's a lot of souls seeking vengeance for
Speaker 1: what happened. Yeah, yeah, is that it's like that old
Speaker 1: Paul Mooney Joe talking about sharks, like we eight niggas
Speaker 1: and years remember when they used to come that dark
Speaker 1: meat so good, you know, Like, and that's the thing
Speaker 1: it's like we're talking about. I think, at least for me,
Speaker 1: everything that we hear about the slave trade, right is
Speaker 1: the people who make it to America or make it
Speaker 1: to like wherever they become slaves. But what this is
Speaker 1: saying is massive, massive amounts of people did not even
Speaker 1: make it to land, that they died in this process
Speaker 1: because they were either beaten to death, starved to death,
Speaker 1: kidnapped off the boat, thrown off the boat, killed in weather,
Speaker 1: whatever the funk it is, which means that more than
Speaker 1: we can account for are pretty pissed about what happened
Speaker 1: to them. Yeah, I'm all the way believing it now
Speaker 1: now that you just went on with the research, like
Speaker 1: I'm so like, like, I fight the motherfuck about this
Speaker 1: ship now. So one of the counters that we started
Speaker 1: talked about previously that I think is worth us talking
Speaker 1: about again because it comes up a lot in some
Speaker 1: of the things that I'm reading is basically black people
Speaker 1: who are writing articles about this basically being like, hey, look,
Speaker 1: I get it. It's a nice feeling to believe it,
Speaker 1: but it also is a very fucked up thing to
Speaker 1: suggest that these souls are never going to find peace,
Speaker 1: that they're just constantly seeking vengeance forever and always for
Speaker 1: what happened to them and never going to you know,
Speaker 1: heaven or whatever you believe in for like their souls
Speaker 1: to be at rest. Yeah. Man, I don't know how
Speaker 1: goals work, but I mean I don't know that. I
Speaker 1: don't know, Like like like you, they just gonna say
Speaker 1: that ship and then not have a suggestion for what
Speaker 1: to do about it, go out and let him know,
Speaker 1: like yo, we good? Were good? Are you saying that
Speaker 1: when you're on a carnival cruise ship. Are you talking
Speaker 1: to spear? Are you sitting there drinking my ties and
Speaker 1: slide down and goddamn slide Talk to the spirits, be
Speaker 1: like I made it, bitch, I gotta fall one came like,
Speaker 1: talk to him. Play Obama's speech here. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, Yeah, don't just throw out what you
Speaker 1: think it shouldn't be. Give a fucking answer to what
Speaker 1: it is, because the reality is these ghosts might be
Speaker 1: upset and they might need your comfort. They might need
Speaker 1: you to step in and be like, hey, relax, we'll
Speaker 1: figure it out from here. I don't know how ghost
Speaker 1: work all the way, None of them know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So if they're like, oh, that's that's messed up to
Speaker 1: think that they'll never get No, No, it's messed up
Speaker 1: to think how they got there. You know what I'm saying, like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the whole situation messed up. Like what do you like
Speaker 1: you can't tell a ghost like, I'm sorry, you can't
Speaker 1: make it right. This is where I start to get
Speaker 1: even more conspiratorial, right because I think that one of
Speaker 1: the things that I read it sort of comes from
Speaker 1: what we're talking about right now, is a bunch of
Speaker 1: people being like, I don't like the idea of the
Speaker 1: slaves having to spend their life vengeful and sad forever
Speaker 1: and always, and then other people being like, yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's pretty fucked up to think that these slaves are
Speaker 1: attacking their own people. I don't want to believe in this.
Speaker 1: But what I started to think, what I started, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna whisper at you for a second, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get real quiet. What I started to think was maybe
Speaker 1: these slaves are not in fact attacking people at all,
Speaker 1: but they're attacking the system that put them in servitude
Speaker 1: in shackles in the first place. So these slaves are
Speaker 1: not attacking any individual, but instead attacking capitalism. Right, every
Speaker 1: time that a hurricane hits the US or hits one
Speaker 1: of these places, the economy gets fucked things in that city, tourism, money,
Speaker 1: it's getting ruined by these category four, category five storms, right,
Speaker 1: And so at the end of the day, capitalisms would
Speaker 1: put me in these shackles. Capitalism is what I'm angry at.
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck who's on the other side
Speaker 1: of that, black, brown, white otherwise. Yeah, yeah, it's the system.
Speaker 1: So it means that until you give us like some
Speaker 1: type of reparations. You gotta tag of the money if
Speaker 1: you want these souls to rest. Yeah, you would like
Speaker 1: these souls to rest. My brother, your great money. Give
Speaker 1: me your great money for one year, one year, and
Speaker 1: I will rests. I will put sixteen souls to rest.
Speaker 1: Give me your great money. I do. I think at
Speaker 1: the root of this, we are talking about the potential
Speaker 1: of like how money controls everything. Right, money was the
Speaker 1: ultimate cause of why these souls were taken in the
Speaker 1: first place, and so there's a very logical possibility that
Speaker 1: money is the thing, or this type of money is
Speaker 1: the thing that these souls are angry at that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: ye that believe. I'm with it. Capitalism yep, y'all. They
Speaker 1: give us no money, yep, y'all. Still killing black folks, yep,
Speaker 1: they're still doing it. They look over before they come,
Speaker 1: They look over to see if it's right before they come.
Speaker 1: They still on that ship. Come on there. Oh wait
Speaker 1: a minute, Jeff Bezos, guy, how much? Yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to fuck some ship up. We gotta ron y'all,
Speaker 1: let's go. Okay, this is the last thing that I'll
Speaker 1: throw out to you as even more support for your
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory. I think it's more support. But one of
Speaker 1: the things that kept coming up was the idea that
Speaker 1: hurricanes every year become more and more extreme. Right that, like,
Speaker 1: we're not talking about the same even quality and quantity
Speaker 1: of hurricanes as we were talking about back when the
Speaker 1: slave trade was originally happening, which does in fact suggest
Speaker 1: the possibility that these slaves are these souls are uniting
Speaker 1: to seek vengeance. Now, you could argue that that's all
Speaker 1: the result of global warming and you know the damage
Speaker 1: that we're doing to the earth, or you could argue, now,
Speaker 1: these slaves just get matter and matter every year. I mean, however,
Speaker 1: you want to look at it. Either way work because
Speaker 1: if it's getting hotter than that, they're getting more powerful.
Speaker 1: That's your faults too, your fault. It's all your phone,
Speaker 1: you mean global warming is oh yeah, well, well then
Speaker 1: they're gonna get stronger. This is something you did, because
Speaker 1: they died because it's something you did. So that's how
Speaker 1: it would work if it was an anime or something
Speaker 1: ship right, Like, I like that because I think that
Speaker 1: that actually connects us right back to where we were
Speaker 1: with the economy. Right, is that ultimately you are continuing
Speaker 1: to create the negative results of what you built from
Speaker 1: this slave trade. You're growing all this negativity which leads us,
Speaker 1: which takes us even further into the possibility that these
Speaker 1: souls are seeking vengeance. Yeah. Hell yet. All right, we're
Speaker 1: gonna take one more break and then we'll be back
Speaker 1: with more Clayton English and more. My mama told me,
Speaker 1: And we are back. You could do so you you
Speaker 1: you could. Yeah, we're back. We're playing English more. My
Speaker 1: mama told me. We're spitting We're spitting off the coach. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I want to play a game. We're gonna play a
Speaker 1: quick game. And this game is called Okay Homemade Hotep.
Speaker 1: It's a very simple game where I am going to
Speaker 1: introduce to you a pretty standard fact out in the world,
Speaker 1: and then what I would like for you to do
Speaker 1: is hotep the ship out of it, add all the
Speaker 1: flavoring and a nuance that you need to add to
Speaker 1: it to make it as conspiratorial as possible. Do whatever
Speaker 1: you want to add some flare to this bad boy. Right,
Speaker 1: So we're talking about natural disasters, and what I started
Speaker 1: to think was, Okay, if hurricanes are in fact the
Speaker 1: souls of something, what else could be the souls of something.
Speaker 1: And so what I would like for you to do
Speaker 1: is dig into earthquakes. Three sixteen thousand people died from
Speaker 1: earthquakes in three sixteen thousand people internationally died from earthquakes.
Speaker 1: What I would love for you to do is talk
Speaker 1: to me about what you think those earthquakes are seeking
Speaker 1: vengeance for. Is for fucking up the mountains and other ship,
Speaker 1: Like anytime you funk with rock YEP. They don't like that.
Speaker 1: Every time you crack the foundation on one side of
Speaker 1: the earth the other side, they don't like that. They
Speaker 1: don't like that. They want to be how they want
Speaker 1: to be shaped and formed how they want to form.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They want to be shaped
Speaker 1: by weather and water. They don't want you coming in
Speaker 1: with jack hammers and big as motherfucker drills. And so
Speaker 1: every crack eventually is gonna keep goddamn quaking because y'all
Speaker 1: keep cracking ship, and you keep on cracking ship, and
Speaker 1: you don't stop cracking ship until you stop cracking. Even
Speaker 1: cracking is cracking a lot of people don't know that
Speaker 1: cracking is cracking. Cracking is cracking. I like that and
Speaker 1: talk to me a little bit about the who the
Speaker 1: day is? Who is the day in this? Anybody who
Speaker 1: building some ship that's too big, that don't need no problem.
Speaker 1: But you're trying to build a motherfucker guitar shaped hotel
Speaker 1: that earthquake, baby, that's gonna sunk up somebody's home on
Speaker 1: the other side of the earth. You arrogant bitch. Why
Speaker 1: do you need a hotel shaped like a guitar? Come on,
Speaker 1: what is that for? Who? Who is that? Who does
Speaker 1: that benefit? Who sees that TACKI ship? And it's like,
Speaker 1: I've got to stay there. I want to stay right
Speaker 1: in the neck of that giant, shitty guitar. No, that
Speaker 1: is something that needs to come down. And you're saying
Speaker 1: that the souls of the earth, really the Earth is
Speaker 1: responding it and fighting back against that bullshit. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love it. I think we did it. Clayton English,
Speaker 1: what a great episode. Could you tell the people where
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Speaker 1: So hey, come on, let's go Yeah, go funk with Clayton,
Speaker 1: Go listen to this ship, go watch you got an
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