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Speaker 1: The world premiere of Megan two point oh was last night.

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Speaker 2: So it is a call to action, everyone listening me to.

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Speaker 2: were writing and sending like I am doing the best,

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00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 2: Like Lena is so talented, these writers are so good,

439
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 2: Like I'm kind of so spoiled about this type of

440
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,119
Speaker 2: character in this situation, and then the other things that

441
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 2: I was like going for. We're two different and people

442
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 2: couldn't picture me in those roles because we were so

443
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 2: aligned with our characters. So then I was like, they

444
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 2: were like, do you want to play Peter Pan on

445
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,360
Speaker 2: live television? Like why, yes, I do. As a matter

446
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 2: of fact, do I want to fly towards Christopher walk

447
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,640
Speaker 2: into the sword? Yes, I do absolutely for three hours

448
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 2: on live television. Uh huh, wow, I do. So I

449
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 2: did that. And then just because I grew up loving

450
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,000
Speaker 2: Peter Pan, I was like, this will be such a fun,

451
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 2: insane challenge and it was like one of the most

452
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 2: gratifying experiences in my life. And that's full earnest. You

453
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 2: have to you can on cringe Mountain. You can't wink

454
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 2: at your Peter Pan. You're committing to being like a

455
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:53,119
Speaker 2: kind of genderless but boy pixie haired like flying magic person,

456
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 2: and you're like, yeah, I can't like be ironic about this,

457
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 2: Like I am full commitment and that in and of

458
00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,919
Speaker 2: itself was like its own kind of lesson that kind

459
00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 2: of prepared me for the genre stuff that was to come,

460
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 2: because you have to fully just commit to it and

461
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 2: forget what genre you're in. Yeah, but so after Peter Pan,

462
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 2: I kind of helped dislodge the Marny thing, but it

463
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 2: was still very, very sticky. Meanwhile, Jordan Peele had been

464
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 2: watching Girls saw me do Peter Pan, was like, she'll

465
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:16,159
Speaker 2: do anything.

466
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm into it.

467
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 2: Reached out and was like, you have this vibe. People

468
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 2: just trust you. You have this brown hair and these

469
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 2: blue eyes, and people just believe that you're who you are,

470
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 2: and they will take fifteen seconds with you on screen

471
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 2: and just go with you for the whole movie.

472
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you say baby to be fine, they trust you.

473
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 2: I need you. And I was like, this is exactly

474
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,120
Speaker 2: we are. We have exactly aligned interests in the situation.

475
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 2: And I read the script and I remember calling my

476
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 2: publicist at the time and being like, this is an

477
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 2: Oscar movie and she's like this poor girl is so

478
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 2: spoiled from Girls. She thinks everything she does is going

479
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 2: to be an Awards contender. And I was like, no, seriously,

480
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,880
Speaker 2: it is and she was like, it's a race, It's

481
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 2: a race horror movie. Like, come on, first time director,

482
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 2: four point five million dollar budget, Like you're very spoiled,

483
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,199
Speaker 2: but we'll see, we'll see how it goes. And she

484
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 2: was very supportive obviously, but you know, trying to prepare

485
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 2: me for like actual movie because it was my first movie.

486
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 2: And so then we go and make the movie. We

487
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 2: I worked heavily with Jordan to like make Rose as

488
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 2: evil as we possibly could, including coming up with the

489
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 2: idea of like kind of splitting her in half and

490
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 2: having her playing a character for most of the movie. Yeah,

491
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 2: and it did this incredible thing, which is that it

492
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 2: used the stickiness of Marnie that I was having so

493
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 2: much trouble, like shaking against the audience. It was like, Okay,

494
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 2: if you're gonna think of me in this way anyway,

495
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 2: then I'm going to use that to like propel the

496
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 2: story of this movie and help the twist of it.

497
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 2: And then from that moment, the moment people saw me

498
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 2: on screen, they didn't trust me anymore. Right, they were

499
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 2: immediately like, I don't know where I don't feel comfortable

500
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 2: like looking at your face anymore. I feel uncertain about

501
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 2: if I can trust you, like the association switched, and

502
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 2: then I got to play with that invoking that in people.

503
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 2: And so since then, pushing me into the thriller and

504
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 2: the kind of hypheny genres has been like the greatest

505
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 2: gift because I've just been able to like let go

506
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,360
Speaker 2: of so many things and also just play with expectations

507
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 2: and yeah, all of it.

508
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: But your willingness to like subvert those expectations into like

509
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 1: for loops, looking at the keys like you know, like

510
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: it's that's that is to bring it back. That's Alison

511
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: Williams school girl ward.

512
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 2: You know what I mean that I'm starting to get

513
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 2: it well by the end of the episode, maybe fully

514
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: understands the category. I've heard you talk about it every time.

515
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 2: I just am still like pie together.

516
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: Times we talked about it, how has it been, like

517
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: I feel like it's only it's only ever like this

518
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: activating thing where we're like, oh my god, yes there's there.

519
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: There literally is no one cooler I'm looking for you.

520
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 2: I really can't accept that. Honestly, It's like I can't

521
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 2: accept the I can't accept it. Well, you don't have

522
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 2: to accept it.

523
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 1: Every talk show appearance, every I've seen it's it's it's crazy,

524
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: it's crazy. With the words of Marnie Michaels, it's just

525
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 1: like there is this is this is what Jordan's talking about.

526
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 1: It's like something about this girl. You see her, you

527
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: trust her, she takes you with her, and that is

528
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: kind of like the comfort. It's like anytime you've like

529
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: answered these like weird, thorny questions about being on girls,

530
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: about all these other things, it's like, I'm like, oh,

531
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 1: this girl knows, like this girl gets something not a

532
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: lot of actors would sort of lament like the thing

533
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: that they've been like sort of pigeonholed into immediately after

534
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 1: this role that they're so associated and aligned with, to

535
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: then be like I'm going to fuck with this to

536
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 1: my advantage and let jettison me into something different.

537
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: Well, it was so it was such a happy coincidence

538
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 2: because it just so happened that I was looking for

539
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 2: something exactly like that and Jordan needed It was like

540
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 2: we just needed each other. And I was also like,

541
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 2: yeah it was, and I just felt like I want

542
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: I also don't want I want to make her so

543
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 2: evilly that I don't want there to be any people

544
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 2: still did this by the way, but I didn't want

545
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 2: there to be any excuse for her, because I know

546
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 2: people love to excuse the behavior.

547
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 3: And there's that moment where where it's like he's deciding

548
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 3: whether or not he's going to kill her or not,

549
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 3: and you as the audience, are like, should.

550
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 2: He kill her or not? And you in that moment

551
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: are making a real case switching back into the other mode.

552
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a great I watched it, so I

553
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 2: went to a screening of it in Sun Valley, and

554
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: all love to Sun Valley. It's gorgeous, But that audience

555
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 2: was very different from the other ones I'd watched, and

556
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: the reactions in the audience to that sequence in the

557
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 2: finale were very different than the ones in every other

558
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 2: theater where it was. Let's just say it was a

559
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 2: teaching moment, like people were like learning some stuff about

560
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: their kneejerk reaction to the like blue and white red

561
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 2: flashing lights and a black man over a white woman

562
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 2: on the ground and all those things. But yeah, that

563
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 2: movie was Like the other thing that movie taught me

564
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 2: was that it's possible to I mean, I knew this

565
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 2: already from like Rosemary's Baby, but I'm a whimp I

566
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 2: can't see horror movies at all. I never ever imagined

567
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,719
Speaker 2: the scenario. I have to watch horror movies on planes,

568
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 2: ambient activity, full light, like not really volume. And honestly,

569
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 2: the more of them I make, it's kind of exposure

570
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 2: therapy because I'm learning about cameras and sound cues. I'm

571
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: starting to avoid the jump scares because I just know

572
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: what they're doing. It'll help, I promise, because appeals back.

573
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: It's just helpful. It makes you like more literate in

574
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: the whatever. So I never expected this, and I knew

575
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 2: it was possible, but merging a serious theme that would

576
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: typically be dealt with in like a Capital D drama,

577
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 2: but putting it into like a horror thriller comedy packaging,

578
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 2: I was like, this is a drug professionally, this is

579
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 2: a drug like experience, because I am so enjoying the

580
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: experience of talking about race like on panels and stuff

581
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 2: with the get Out like crew and cast real Shita,

582
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 2: and then also like sitting through a screening where I

583
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: could sit outside the theater and based on the laughs,

584
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: I would know where we were in the movie and

585
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 2: it was like such an awesome combination, and like Megan

586
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 2: was able to replicate that experience because it took ai

587
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 2: and kids and put it in this weird packaging, and

588
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 2: I was like, this is the same thing. It's this

589
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 2: conversation my friends are having like quietly and worried and

590
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 2: privately about their own parenting, like like I'm worried about

591
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,719
Speaker 2: my kid technology and stuff and just like made it

592
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: bigger than life and like put it in camp and

593
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 2: fun and then after the fun has worn off, people

594
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: are like, but really, like, what are we? What arege?

595
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 3: I was like again, like I was like brushing back

596
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 3: up on exactly what it was about, and I was like, wow,

597
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 3: this is very prescient. It's about the this you know,

598
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 3: and and how we just allow our children to be

599
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 3: taken care of by technology sometimes, Like now when I

600
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 3: see a kid on a plane with a tablet, I'm

601
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 3: just like, that kid has autonomy in the way that

602
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 3: not for nothing, But we did when the internet was starting,

603
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 3: way back when. And how many did we put ourselves in?

604
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 2: Yes, I okay, so many things. One I did not

605
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: mean to segue us into Megan prematurely was like they think.

606
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 2: I was like, we got to get on topic, but

607
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: I don't.

608
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 3: I was like SVPs to the compliment right now, our

609
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 3: SVPs it is yes, thank you for you, thank you.

610
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 2: Okay, well r gs to my compliment and my fandom.

611
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: You have to but we are CPS.

612
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: He's struggling with actually, okay, great, I love that, thank you.

613
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: I'll get there.

614
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: I'll get there well by the end. I need an

615
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: r SVP. I need to know. I need a head count.

616
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 2: I need to know how many people are eating duck.

617
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 2: But yes, aol. I the other day I flew home

618
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: from London alone with our son and I planes are

619
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: like iPad time. It is when you get to the

620
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 2: point where your kid has an attention span that is

621
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: long enough for a flight, and then I iPad You're like, great,

622
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 2: I'm going to ruin you temporarily. I recover three and

623
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 2: a half, like we can, we can repair this, but

624
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: like I am going to like temporarily like damage what

625
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 2: we have put so much, like so much work into

626
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 2: and still it's like top of his lungs, Mama p

627
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: And I'm like I'm coming and I'm like I am

628
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: a stewardess for him, and it's like a whole thing anyway,

629
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: but it's it is. I will do that and then

630
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: at home It is terrifying to watch three and a

631
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 2: half year olds interact with AI things because it's immediate.

632
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: It's like, it's like this, they have this intrinsic understanding

633
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: and facility with using these things. It's really crazy. Like

634
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: watching him ask chatchy bt a question with a little

635
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: voice undulating thing is like it's like watching Violin or

636
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: Katie in the first movie. It's like watching her interact

637
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 2: with Megan. So I'm I'm constantly doing that. And then

638
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, he named our robot vacuum. I'm like, we

639
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 2: gotta just we have to just think about this and

640
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 2: really like be cautious because it's they're powerful. These tools

641
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: are super powerful and they get more powerful every day.

642
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: Every time I see my Chatty PTE memory updated, I'm like,

643
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: what did you learn about me?

644
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, so we don't.

645
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: I guess we don't. Really, I don't react with any

646
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: of it. Okay, no, no, it's not it's not it's nouche.

647
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: I would say. It's like it's I I feel like

648
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: very grateful for the ways Chatty helps me, but I'm

649
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 2: very aware of what I put into it, and every

650
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: couple of months I ask what it thinks it knows

651
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: about me, just to see where I am. Gentlemen, it's

652
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: so boring in a word beige. Literally, the word beige

653
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: is in the description of me that it has. And

654
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: here's why it only sees what I'm worried about it

655
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: and I don't know. It's not like I'm like, hey,

656
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: chatty pit, let me tell you, like everything I know

657
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: about Mary Shelley's Frankenstein because I've read it academic. Yes,

658
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: here's my transcript, which I've never seen. Here's like I'm

659
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: never saying here's something I'm confident about as a mom,

660
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 2: or like here's something I feel sure about. Here's a

661
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: It's more like I don't know what carpet pad to

662
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: put under like a sisle, Like what wits do I need?

663
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 2: And like what material? And how do I not like

664
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 2: rot the floor under it? And it's like, already too much.

665
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 2: I apologize the other day for seeing something I knew

666
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 2: I'd asked twice. I was like, I knowe, I've already

667
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 2: asked you this, But what's the ideal humidity level for

668
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: a toddler room? And they're like, it's fine, life's busy,

669
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: Like here's what it's forty to fifty percent, just so

670
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: you know, wow, oh my, here's the news you can use.

671
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: I know it's lower than I would have thought. I

672
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: would have been like eighties like tropical. But anyway, so

673
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: I it's already weird and it's so funny that they are.

674
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: It's just they're very bored, like the TLDR. I also

675
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: asked them to come up with an image that felt

676
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: like it described my life. And it was like a

677
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: farm with my husband was included and Arlow and our

678
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: dog beautiful, and we were we live in the middle

679
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: of nowhere with like a farmhouse, which isn't accurate, but

680
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: I love that that's what it thinks of.

681
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: Well, it's okay, Well it's going to be for now

682
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: like it's always going to be derivative. And so it's

683
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: saying in a word beige is also it's like ironically

684
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: a basic thing to say to someone.

685
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: Yes, also, it wasn't being ironic, it just is if

686
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: it wasn't making fun of me a word comma, No,

687
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: that was my gloss on the summer. I thought that

688
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: you said, oh my god, you thought I don't like

689
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: I got to read from chatty beat. I thought, in

690
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: a word bage, Well, because literally like no, you can't,

691
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: like you can't. This is a relations dum.

692
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 3: Like hello, but no, because honestly, I've heard of it

693
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 3: being like a little you can.

694
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: Ask it to. We have a very professional boundaries relationship

695
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: because of the movies I make. I'm like, yeah, I'm

696
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: going to always be cordial with you, say thank you please,

697
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: you know, like we keep a boundary about that. I do.

698
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: They don't. I don't think it has figured out what

699
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: I do for a living. Wow wow, you know like

700
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: I've tried to keep that kind of distance, but I

701
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: asked every couple of months to be like what And

702
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: the reason it brought up beage is because I was

703
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: looking for I was like, can you direct me towards

704
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: an outdoor patio umbrella that's beige? And it was like,

705
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 2: you seem interested in the color bage. I was like, God,

706
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: damn it, I'm even boring my chatchba. It's going to

707
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 2: be like a line of funny that you don't think.

708
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: I know you're in as your cue. You're actually adorable.

709
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: We know exactly who I wanted to be, like, yeah,

710
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: I know Meghan. Is that going to buy me cool

711
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: points with you? Like I know her intimately. But I

712
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: don't know how you would feel about her. Yeah, I

713
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 2: think I thought about it. They feel satane.

714
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: I think they would only they I think she would

715
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,719
Speaker 1: only be kind of flattered and amused by. I think

716
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: Megan is the best pr thing that a I could have.

717
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: Just so funny because she's like a. Yeah, she was

718
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: the first well in.

719
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: The first second movie we heard about the well. I

720
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: couldn't believe you heard us. You heard us like find

721
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: out in real time with the plot.

722
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: It was my favorite thing. I got sent that like

723
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: a hundred times. Your dramatic reading of the song, which

724
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: is of Amelia talking about like the spell of everything.

725
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: I was like obsessed with it. Yes, it made me

726
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: so happy than you, like, this is worth making a

727
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: sequel just to hear you. Guys.

728
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: By the way, it's actually four quadrant it is said, yes,

729
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 3: and I'm also like saying, there's.

730
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: Know what your four quadrants? There's a well, I feel

731
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 2: like they're not everyone.

732
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,479
Speaker 3: It's it's it's sports, Dad that watch get that's watched

733
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 3: Get Out.

734
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 2: Yes, it's sports.

735
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 3: It's like mom who watched Fellow Travelers and was like,

736
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: my sports.

737
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: Sports is gay And I'm looking at my husband a

738
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: little bit. It's three watching girls.

739
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 2: Yes, and it's of.

740
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 3: Course gay son, gay son, I don't recognize straight son.

741
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: You don't know you. They know you too, they think

742
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 2: you're hot. But I would be so excited. That would

743
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 2: be so exciting to be like a hot mom to anyone.

744
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: Are I don't know your gorgeous specimen?

745
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 2: That's so nice. I think I'm just an adult now.

746
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: This is okay, this was my biggest I don't think so, honey.

747
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 2: I will spoil it ahead of time because it's get

748
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 2: so many. There's this brings us down to five people

749
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 2: being younger than us. Oh yeah, I know.

750
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: Well stop.

751
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: Last night I did a show with two people and

752
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 3: they were it's a twinking red head. They're an online

753
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 3: sensation and he was talking about having hooked up with

754
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 3: someone like older, and she asked how old and he

755
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 3: just goes like this, thirty plus.

756
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: And I don't. And here's the thing, I don't. He

757
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: did not mean anything. It was just being literal, like

758
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: thirty plus. I can't even old. I we are wonder kids.

759
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 2: We need to be kids.

760
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 1: We need to be kids. Can I say something? Yeah,

761
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: we might have our first mayor who's younger than us.

762
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: That's crazy. People younger than us is crazy. This is

763
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It has to stop. I made Harlowe

764
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: is jenn Alfa is fine, Like it's the gen z.

765
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: Like the fact that they're like professional adults now and

766
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: they're younger than me, that's really fucking to me. I

767
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: went back to give a talk at Yale or like

768
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: a like a college or whatever. Yeah, whatever, I kept saying.

769
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: We I was at this point, like thirty two, I think,

770
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: and I kept being like, you know, for us, like

771
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 2: we're we go out in the world and they're looking

772
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: at me and they're like, lady, you are a full

773
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: thirty plus you are ten years older than the oldest child,

774
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: the oldest fuck it just closed your college. And I

775
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: started eating itself, like you are falling, you're old, And

776
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 2: I was like, we're not in us anymore. No, we're

777
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 2: not at person who came to the college who's like

778
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 2: krusty and back to talk to you about the world

779
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 2: in an out of touchway. And this is mortifying even.

780
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 3: Like horrible, referring to herself as twenty five and a half.

781
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 3: At one point, I was just that sounds right, No,

782
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 3: one hundred percent. She definitely said I'm twenty five and

783
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 3: a half.

784
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 2: Et cetera. I was like, wow, like this show was

785
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: a long time ago. I know, I'm thirty seven. It

786
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 2: was a long time time ago. I can't anyway. It's

787
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: just like it's a lot that there's you know, people younger,

788
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: and also it's like it had like it.

789
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 3: This is the weird thing about like when when sudden

790
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 3: suddenly like you become like I guess older is you

791
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 3: don't know when it happens. They kind of just let

792
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 3: you know after the fact, like oh, yeah, we look

793
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: at we look at you as a little bit older now.

794
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 3: And I was like, but I was just I was

795
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 3: just one of the young people.

796
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. I was just considered like, uh, precocious, right,

797
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 2: the word precocious was just used to describe me. And

798
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: now I'm just meeting the standard. Yeah, like is this

799
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 2: going to just keep sliding and stay out of reach

800
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 2: for me? Like I like wonderkin. I was never referred

801
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: to as a wonder kN that was always aspirational. Lena

802
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: was though, And I don't know when they stopped, but

803
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: that must have been like low key devastats of course,

804
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 2: I just go to being like a vunda adult.

805
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know an adult, but is this

806
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: is this the universal experience for us, like for the

807
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: universe or that's three people in this.

808
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: Room for the camera. Sorry, yeah, sorry to see you.

809
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: We see you.

810
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: But uh, when people still when you tell someone your age, yeah,

811
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: and then they go oh baby, and then one day

812
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: it just stops right.

813
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: Yes, it was such a like to interact with older

814
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 2: people when you were young, and that like the reveal

815
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: of your age when you're like, how much I've done.

816
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 3: A couple of years ago when I was thirty three,

817
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 3: I'm thirty five now. I said to someone I was

818
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 3: thirty three, and their response was, that's okay.

819
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 2: Where were you were you getting on driver's okay.

820
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 3: I was just I was like, well, thank you for

821
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 3: the permission to I guess keep existing.

822
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 2: I was like, that's devastating.

823
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: Second you get older, you know you were you were

824
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: you were submitting you were trying to run for president.

825
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: And they were like, yeah, that's okay, very fine, fine,

826
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: yeah you get there.

827
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: Wow, you can't even run for president yet.

828
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 2: But in a matter of.

829
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 1: Months, well, I mean period not born in this country.

830
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god, about that, America.

831
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm not missing.

832
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 2: Here is the problem? Are you sure you're not missing out?

833
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:56,959
Speaker 2: It seems like a great job.

834
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. By the end of this.

835
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 2: Episode, compliment for you my fandom.

836
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: So like what what and what I was saying earlier

837
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: was like and I wanted to bring up the fellow

838
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 3: travelers of it all too, because I would imagine that that's.

839
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: Like I saw Johnny yesterday because noting Jurassic it's like

840
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: a little okay, well, we're trying to get him in

841
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 2: this room.

842
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: Johnny guy.

843
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. Like the experience of being on set

844
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: with those four gentlemen for me and gentlemen was like

845
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 2: one of the most like aesthetically overwhelming experiences Jelanny and

846
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: Noah and Johnny j Well, I was.

847
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 3: So happy that he got that, like that platform, because

848
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 3: Johnny has been like someone that's been like an angel

849
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 3: and like he's so tight.

850
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 2: But also just the singing like casually from all four

851
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 2: of them, just like on the way to set, it

852
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: was an overwhelming I was literally like, I'm in heaven.

853
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that must have been something.

854
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: Visually, like everyone on the crew was like, this is

855
00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: an overwhelming please.

856
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: To so visually aesthetically sonically.

857
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 2: The performances yeah, there's I only got to do a

858
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 2: couple of scenes of this, Johnny, but it was so fun.

859
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: It was so incredible. That whole project was like just

860
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: beyond dreaming. That was another thing where I read the

861
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: pilot and I was like, yeah, this isn't I'll do

862
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: anything it takes to Oh.

863
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 3: That was It was really just like it was. It's

864
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 3: obviously very overwhelming. Yes, and I just imagine that type.

865
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 2: Of stuff like that normal heart Like did you know

866
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 2: about the lavender scare? To interrupt you while you're asking,

867
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: did you know? I think that not? Well, obviously here's

868
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 2: the thing.

869
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 3: In a perfect world, they would have taught us about

870
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 3: that in school, but they did not know we red scare.

871
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 2: We learned about AIDS.

872
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 3: But I don't really learned about AIDS. You want to

873
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 3: know how I learned really about AIDS. Like there was

874
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 3: we had to do a project when I was I

875
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 3: think in like six or seventh grade where we all

876
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 3: had to pick a disease in science class and like

877
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 3: do a report on diase and I picked AIDS and

878
00:40:58,520 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 3: my teacher just looks.

879
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: At me and she goes, Okay, I'm gonna speak to

880
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: your parents.

881
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 3: And so my parents had to sit me down, and

882
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 3: they were like, so before you start doing this, we

883
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 3: want you to know about AIDS. And I realized, like,

884
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 3: had I not stumbled into that and like been put

885
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 3: in a position where like I had to like be

886
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 3: told what AIDS was, it wasn't gonna come up. And

887
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 3: I certainly wasn't gonna find out like in school about

888
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 3: how it affected my community, how it decimated culturally, that

889
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 3: a lot of the fabric of like New York like

890
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 3: and a world that entire generation, how like you know

891
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 3: what that loss really was and how thrown under the

892
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 3: bus we were by people that were supposed to protect

893
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: us and.

894
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: All of that.

895
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 3: Like I still don't think, And I think that's why

896
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 3: I have such an anxious reaction to it, because it

897
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 3: comes as such a.

898
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 2: Shock even now.

899
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's why it's important that art is made

900
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 3: about it, like really honest, visceral art is made about

901
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,439
Speaker 3: it like that with people on that level, on your

902
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 3: level doing it, because we don't know totally.

903
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: My god, I mean, if you had not stumbled on

904
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: that for that project, you would have, like me, and

905
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: I'm not even saying this is like a punchline. It's

906
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: like you would have learned about it through like rentally.

907
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: Yes, that's how I think. I was just thinking that

908
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: that was probably the first time I heard about it, yep.

909
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 2: And I mean honestly, like better than the jokes that

910
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: came after that and sex out about like you're gonna

911
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 2: get aids and the very like offhanded way that must

912
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 2: have sounded horrifying to older people who had lived through it.

913
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 2: Can you imagine hearing our generation use it so flippantly

914
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 2: one of those people when I was like closeted, very

915
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 2: you knew about it. You were one of the few people.

916
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 3: I remember, like I, I'm from Long Island, like we're

917
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 3: again like graduating high school in two thousand and eight,

918
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 3: and Long Island like a vibe. So then I go

919
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 3: to NYU and it's like all this different kinds of culture.

920
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 3: And I remember the first week of school we were

921
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 3: going to go see Rent and my friend of mine

922
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 3: had made a joke in like a group chat, like

923
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 3: because I had I had a seat in the last

924
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 3: ro and they made a joke like, oh, that seat

925
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 3: is going to have the most AIDS on it, and

926
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 3: I really makes sense, and I repeated the joke because

927
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 3: I was eighteen and stupid like whatever, and a girl

928
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 3: on my floor turns to me and goes, that's really

929
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 3: fucked up and that's not how you get that, et cetera.

930
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: And I was just like, that girl was Elizabeth Olsen,

931
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: that girl.

932
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: Was Elizabeth Hanks. Sorry, but like that's what I mean.

933
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: It's just yes, that's what happens, even to someone like me.

934
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 2: You need that girl when you're not exposed.

935
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 3: Yes, and like that's why it's really important. And you

936
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 3: asked like did you know about the lavender scare?

937
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: No, no, no one talked about it. I felt like

938
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 2: I learned a lot of stuff that a lot of

939
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: other schools didn't teach in my school, and it was

940
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 2: not something that I learned about. That's this scapegoating that

941
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 2: the government did. Like that the combination of like the

942
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 2: commune is scared with homophobia, just like throwing that in

943
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: to be like we can use this as like compromide

944
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: and just like get people. Just devastating. I mean, I

945
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: felt so embarrassed and devastated. And also it is just

946
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 2: uh like all parts of the world where it's the

947
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: numbers are like surging and stuff. It's I do a

948
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: lot of work with red and the thing that's so

949
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 2: maddening is that it's completely possible to live like a

950
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 2: totally healthy In case someone out there doesn't know, it's

951
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 2: completely possible to live like a totally healthy, normal life

952
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 2: of course A yeah. And you can also like in

953
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: a world of prep like we're we're living in a

954
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: new age and it's literally just information. And that is

955
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: so maddening because it's like that is something that we

956
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: can do, and there's just we can't. I don't know,

957
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: we can't reach everybody. And also if no one's talking

958
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: about it, and a whole generation of like of gay men, we're.

959
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,959
Speaker 1: Just just gone gone.

960
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, I think like that's really what's

961
00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 3: tough is what kind of world could we be living

962
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 3: had all those people been able to create not for nothing,

963
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 3: but also be part of audiences.

964
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 2: Like it's so holistic, the loss.

965
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 3: And I also think it contributes to a lot of

966
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 3: well I certainly know it contributes to a lot of

967
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 3: internalized homophobia in the surviving generation. A lot of survivors

968
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 3: guilt and from straight people, a lot of homophobia because

969
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 3: they're just like I can't actually engage in what I lost.

970
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 3: A lot of people that did know people then became

971
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 3: like more homophobic after a genuine fear of Yeah, for sure,

972
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 3: I say not that your mom is i'mophobic, no, but

973
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: I feel like she.

974
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: Definitely experienced like so many friends in New York, and

975
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: well she was.

976
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 2: She was like a martender in the eighties in New York.

977
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: So it's just like, of course, you know what I mean.

978
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: We haven't gone there.

979
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 3: But I remember when I first came out to my parents,

980
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 3: Like my dad took a second with it, and then

981
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 3: we went on a walk and one of the first

982
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 3: questions he asked me was I just want to make

983
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 3: sure are you careful? And I was just like, you know,

984
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 3: I had to explain to him. I was like, I

985
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: understand deeply why you asked that question.

986
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't need to worry.

987
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 3: About me in that regard, of course, I understand why

988
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 3: you do. But I mean with your parents as well,

989
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 3: I'm sure that was a huge element of the fear.

990
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: Like it is it is, and that's what it is,

991
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 3: like homophobia, Like you can talk about the hatred involved,

992
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 3: but it's.

993
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 2: Also fear, yeah, and the lack of knowledge that was why.

994
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: Like when there's a scene in Fellow Travelers when Lucy

995
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: goes to visit Johnny's character in the hospital. I was Lucy, sorry, yeah, weird,

996
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 2: and she's confused about like does she need to wear gloves?

997
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: And like, I really liked that moment in the show,

998
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 2: not because I agreed with it, but because I felt

999
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 2: like that was a very common and it still is weirdly,

1000
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: like not understanding the transmission and how how to interact

1001
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: with people, Like it's still a common knee jerk reaction

1002
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 2: people have. And I almost feel like the fact that

1003
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 2: if you put an example again, like kind of my

1004
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 2: favorite thing to do, if you put an example of

1005
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 2: someone doing it wrong on screen and it's the people

1006
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 2: who are watching it can be on the inside of

1007
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: getting it right and can become part of being that

1008
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 2: girl in the hallway and you're in NYU being like no,

1009
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: like you can't catch it that way. Don't be an idiot, right,

1010
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: you know, and don't say that joke.

1011
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, that's because that's.

1012
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 2: Exactly it's bad information in a joke, and that's that's

1013
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: way worse. It's going to travel farther anyway.

1014
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: That's interesting, Like the example of someone doing it wrong

1015
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: is is sort of edifying its own.

1016
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're putting the audience in the knowledge seat

1017
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: where they're like, I'm in on how to do this

1018
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 2: right now because I've I have been put in the

1019
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 2: position of like judging the person I'm watching doing it wrong,

1020
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 2: and so now I'm in the position to know what's

1021
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: right and to judge this person for doing it.

1022
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 1: Wrongtally, Yeah, shame works when it's like, uh, being portrayed

1023
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: on someone who's like not real in a way, you

1024
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: know what I mean?

1025
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Literally, it's shame is so powerful. It is

1026
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: like one of the things that it's one of the

1027
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: words that comes up and my stage of life the

1028
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: most with my friends. It's kind of why I joined

1029
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 2: the podcasting community. There weren't enough, so I contribute enough.

1030
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 2: It's with my friends of like thirty plus n one's

1031
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 2: a therapist, one's a teacher, and we've really made it

1032
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 2: because we feel when we look at social media that's

1033
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 2: targeted at us, not all of it, but a lot

1034
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 2: of it. The biggest thing that comes up is shame.

1035
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 2: We're not doing it right. We're not making our kids

1036
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 2: lunches perfectly enough, We're not being like respectful enough parents,

1037
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: Like we're not doing all of these things correctly. I'm

1038
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: not merging my identity seamlessly enough. I'm not being good

1039
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: enough partner and professional and mom and all these things.

1040
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 2: And also my hormones are being crazy, my memory doesn't

1041
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: work the way it used to, like what is going on?

1042
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: And just by venting to each other, the shame is

1043
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: gone instantly, And so we literally talk so much about

1044
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 2: how powerful shame can be in both directions, Like shaming

1045
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: people into like, you know, understanding how like HIV and

1046
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 2: AIDS is transmitted is like the best possible use of

1047
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 2: like shame in a positive direction, but extinguishing it from

1048
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 2: like judging yourself for not doing a good enough job

1049
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: at being alive when like just keeping it all going

1050
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 2: and running is an achievement in and of itself is

1051
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: sort of like our mo o. It's the word that

1052
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 2: I end up going through the most at the stage

1053
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: of life, which is yeah, because it's it only exists.

1054
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: It's like a fungus, like it can only grow when

1055
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 2: there's no light, no air circulating, like you gotta like

1056
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 2: in a group chat, you're like, it lasts for two seconds,

1057
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: as long as it takes for your friends to type

1058
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 2: of response is how long the shame lasts, yes.

1059
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 3: Get it out, and also that like there can be

1060
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 3: people to catch you when you fall in and to

1061
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 3: be able to like exter, I always felt growing up,

1062
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 3: I have to be the only person feeling this thing,

1063
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 3: like really so many times, like and like I have

1064
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 3: to be broken because of not just like the typical

1065
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 3: things you might be thinking of, like I'm gay, I

1066
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 3: feel this way about it, et cetera. Everything, and then

1067
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 3: I think like, like us become such close friends in

1068
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 3: our community, et cetera, Like you just start talking and

1069
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 3: then you realize, like we're all so much more alike,

1070
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 3: but you wouldn't know external Also.

1071
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: That one like brave, vulnerable person that's willing to be

1072
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,959
Speaker 2: like is this a thing something? Yes? And it's less.

1073
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 2: It's less the scene of mean girls where they're all

1074
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: like comparing things they hate about themselves. That's like the

1075
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: early that's like a high school version, like I have

1076
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 2: bad breath in the morn and they're all like, ew,

1077
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with that scene. It's that in high school,

1078
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 2: and then when you become an adult, it's like do

1079
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 2: you remember things for longer than two minutes? And everyone's like, no,

1080
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: I don't estrogen is like on a vacation, you're like, okay, better,

1081
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 2: I was going to get an evaluation. But now that

1082
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 2: I know that we're all going through that, it feels

1083
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 2: so much better. That is like it's everything. And so

1084
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 2: we were like, if not everyone has access to this

1085
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 2: like group of friends who have literally known each other

1086
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 2: since single digits, Like we're we're going to offer ourselves

1087
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 2: as that group of friends.

1088
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 3: It's going to be such a success. It's going to

1089
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 3: be such a success. Do you want to know why?

1090
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 3: Because that's if we've learned anything, it's that that's what

1091
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 3: people want.

1092
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: They want to be part of the conversation. I feel

1093
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 2: like I've lived through so many chapters of your lives

1094
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 2: with you. This is what's really weird. I think it's mutually.

1095
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: I think that's what feels mutual is that I really

1096
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 2: feel like I've gone through like all your moves and

1097
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 2: all your big like career moments and relationships and all

1098
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: of these things like with you. But I haven't, but

1099
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: I have.

1100
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean I.

1101
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 2: Was with you. He brought me with you.

1102
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: I mean I think, like we know.

1103
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 3: I used to say, like, oh I wish I had

1104
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 3: kept a diary and then I was like, you have right,

1105
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 3: but even that as a judgment on yourself, it was

1106
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 3: a way for me to be like, you didn't do

1107
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 3: a good enough job of like keeping your reading too.

1108
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 2: Many comedy autobiographies. It drives me. I'm like, I have

1109
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 2: to stop reading autobiographies. And people in our field just listen.

1110
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 2: They are encyclopedic. How how are they doing this? How

1111
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 2: do you remember? Do you remember this? And I'm like,

1112
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: I'm just not going to I'm going to keep every

1113
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 2: plane ticket because I don't know why. I just do

1114
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 2: keep everything, every piece. We talked about both not a closet.

1115
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 2: You what you just achieved in your closet is like

1116
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 2: I need mostly come over. You guys will get nothing

1117
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: out of my closet. Me maybe like a pair of

1118
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 2: like airplane pajamas that I have a duplicate of. That's

1119
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 2: your best chance. But I am I am like I

1120
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 2: keep everything and not a diary. But I'm constantly like,

1121
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 2: how am I going to write? If I'm going to

1122
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 2: have write a not a bag of how am I

1123
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 2: going to do it? I haven't kept a day to

1124
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 2: day diary on everything that's going on in my life.

1125
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: You have call sheets from all your days of shooting.

1126
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: Almost all of them so important day.

1127
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: That's actually huge because I had to recently like look

1128
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: up like who's that person on that day on this

1129
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: Satura and call sheets.

1130
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, call sheets are incredible. I did just I got

1131
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 2: my first PGA mark on the Megan point, which I'm

1132
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: very proud of. And I went back, you have to

1133
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 2: write a whole thing, and I was like, oh my god,

1134
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 2: an essay in my adult life. I can't wait. So

1135
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 2: I got to write an essay like say why, like

1136
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 2: what your contribution to the movie was, And I like

1137
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 2: went back into like a forensic examination of my involvement

1138
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 2: in the Megan people, and I was like, this is

1139
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 2: not healthy. We were doing zoms at like two am

1140
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 2: from a bathtub in France, like with a with a

1141
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 2: deep fake company in the US that we were like

1142
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,479
Speaker 2: maybe going to hire that we didn't end up hiring

1143
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 2: for some of the like the the amount of digging

1144
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 2: I was able to do because I keep everything was

1145
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 2: actually genuinely helpful.

1146
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 1: That's and that's that's going into the memoir, into the autobiography.

1147
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 2: I guess it will and we'll use this as a

1148
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 2: primary source as well.

1149
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: This is part of the bibliography. Primary stort.

1150
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 2: Wait, we have to ask you the question.

1151
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: We haven't we.

1152
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 2: Haven't even gotten this. I have to, Okay, but before.

1153
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: We too, I just want to say, Johnny Bailey, it

1154
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: is a thing where like you walk in two set

1155
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: ups to hear him and ari Janna Grande sing like

1156
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: cardboard Box by flow on the way to like shoot

1157
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: like dancing through life film, like what's cardboard box by

1158
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: flow Box. I was like, this is heaven to me

1159
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: and I wish.

1160
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 2: I could take It's so powerful.

1161
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: So to know that he does this on multiple products

1162
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: is very, very very heartening to me.

1163
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean you have if you're Johnny Billy,

1164
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 2: you wake up in the morning, You're like, I have

1165
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 2: a burden to share as much of this throughout the

1166
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 2: course of the day as I can. I'm perfect everything,

1167
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 2: and I just have to, like, I have to like

1168
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: share it so that when I go to bed him

1169
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 2: lighter totally, you know, and I wake up and I'm

1170
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 2: heavy with my perfection. I have to just keep distributing it.

1171
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 2: I'm imagining that's what it feels like.

1172
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

1173
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 2: I can next sum hehearschal they're doing press together.

1174
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: I'm like this is, I know, And then they're with

1175
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: Scarlet two and it's kind of.

1176
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: Like you never looked better.

1177
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: And I've kissed Scarlet Johansson too. Yeah, and no one's

1178
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: tweeting about that. It's okay. There's nothing that drives me.

1179
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 3: Crazier than watching him make out with movie stars on

1180
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 3: that like Sydney Sweeting and is colleg Johnson and the

1181
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 3: Bowen straight sketches. I scream, I run like it's Megan

1182
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 3: two point ow.

1183
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 2: I literally I leave the room. I have a reaction

1184
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 2: when I went to it is the reaction? Is it discomfort?

1185
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 2: I'm just like, because he used to use my friend,

1186
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 2: I'm proud. No, I hate.

1187
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 3: It because back in the day, like you and Sudie

1188
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 3: wouldkiss on the mouth to a little bit and it.

1189
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 2: Drove because you were like, this is a scam.

1190
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 1: I was standing doing that.

1191
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 3: My mom says to me one time, she goes, I

1192
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 3: didn't know Bowen and Sudie were dating, and I go,

1193
00:54:58,600 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 3: they're not.

1194
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 2: I was just like, they are not, They're not.

1195
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 1: You're passing too much.

1196
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 2: I know you're doing a great job. I just tell you.

1197
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 3: Today was the culture that made you say cultures for you?

1198
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 3: Because we have to talk about it, okay, where people

1199
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 3: were like, there's a heart.

1200
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 2: Out of ten twenty.

1201
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to make that. No, we

1202
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: are we have to we have.

1203
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: To come right here a high culture things. Okay. I

1204
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 2: had to write them down because again see previous comment

1205
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 2: about not really having a working memory. Okay, Mary Poppins

1206
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 2: and Sound of Music, it's really Julie Andrews is like,

1207
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 2: was why I knew acting was a job because she

1208
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 2: did both of those roles within two years. It's crazy.

1209
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: And how old was she? She was like twenty nine.

1210
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: Fuck sickening, we realize that perfect and.

1211
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 2: Cultivating, unbelievable. I met her and was Meredith Mark's level

1212
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: of incapable of being Did we say that on the mic?

1213
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. Marath Marks is there? You were like

1214
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 2: Chloe with Chloe, I was like, I was Julie Andrews's

1215
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 2: level of incapable of handling it. Julian Andrews I met

1216
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 2: at a PBS event like ten years ago, which is perfect.

1217
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 2: I was like, we're supporting the arts and public television

1218
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: and you're here, and I just was like, I don't matter.

1219
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 2: I had this urge to be like I you're why

1220
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 2: I do what I do. But then I was like,

1221
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 2: she doesn't know what to do. She also doesn't know

1222
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 2: if it's good. So I'm going after him, being like

1223
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 2: she for all she knows, I'm like a terrible non

1224
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 2: like just bad actress, and I'm like, you are the reason.

1225
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: But I was like, I need to tell you this,

1226
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 2: and I don't expect anything from you because you don't

1227
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 2: know me from anyone, but I just you've inspired me,

1228
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 2: like to an amount that I can't possibly express. So

1229
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 2: she's like that was she was my culture for a

1230
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 2: really long time, alongside Joan Rivers on Sesame Street, Oh.

1231
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: Right street.

1232
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 2: She did she did a Hello Dolly sketch but with

1233
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 2: the s was the letter of the day, and I

1234
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 2: think I'm getting this right. I yes, And it was

1235
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 2: like I fact check this or not, I mean whatever

1236
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 2: in the podcast, but it is some combination of Joan

1237
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: Rivers and Sesame Street and Sally to the tune of

1238
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 2: Pillow Dolly. I think this is all right formative. I

1239
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 2: was like, she's sexy, she's funny, she's like so sharp.

1240
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 2: I'm so relieved that I don't have to be judged

1241
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 2: by her like on a day to day but I

1242
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 2: also miss her. I know, like I wonder what. I

1243
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know how I would feel. Yeah,

1244
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 2: I don't know how it would all go down. We've

1245
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 2: done a lot of growing as a culture that I

1246
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: think she was maybe committed to me.

1247
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: All I know is she definitely was a Trump one fan.

1248
00:57:52,120 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 2: Apparent. That's right, Okay, moving on from Joan, I'm making

1249
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 2: a hard ninety degree term Star Wars. Let's go very important.

1250
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 2: Harrison Ford is my first love. And I don't say

1251
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 2: that lightly. Christopher Falmer was close, but he's still like

1252
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 2: a dad. I still like most. Yeah, he was like

1253
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 2: Stern and like, you.

1254
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: Know, activating difference.

1255
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 2: Harrison Ford activated other synapts. I fell in love with

1256
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 2: him in a way that I was like, this is

1257
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 2: a Channimal, I can do this third grade. They be

1258
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 2: really Star Wars in theaters and I was like, this

1259
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 2: man is the most beautiful man I've ever seen. He

1260
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 2: really is an overwhelming movie.

1261
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 3: Like we were just in Disneyland in Paris and there's

1262
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 3: like there's like an Indiana Jones section and I was

1263
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 3: looking at him and I was thinking, like I wasn't

1264
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 3: ready like when I was a kid to like confront

1265
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 3: this because you know how you have those formative memories

1266
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 3: of like seeing like someone and you're like, uh, like

1267
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 3: he is like a manly type of sexuality.

1268
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 2: Over the yea, yeah, so powerful. He's a carpenter. He

1269
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 2: was like, I'm here because I'm like I didn't have

1270
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 2: a table to build. Wow, Like I don't have to

1271
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 2: be doing movies, Like I've got a huge horizontal scarmagint.

1272
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 2: I don't care, you just kill it And I don't.

1273
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: Care truly, like unbothered these babbits writing about meeting him

1274
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: before acting. It's like, oh, that guy is just just

1275
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: just world endingly.

1276
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: Beautiful and I just couldn't handle it. And so I

1277
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 2: felt very activated by Han Solo as a character. And

1278
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 2: I feel like it I kind of absorbed Han solo

1279
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 2: energy more than Princess Leah, which separated me from my peers.

1280
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 2: I feel like I wanted to be a kind of

1281
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 2: misanthropic alpha man and it has kind of like the

1282
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 2: Lydia Tar and Me, which by the way, this is

1283
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 2: sort of an homage. I feels like she would my

1284
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 2: little like, you know, as the queen, like the queen

1285
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 2: of the podcast Lydia Tar, the Queen of the shems

1286
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 2: large personally. She's in Megan's four top four letter box.

1287
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: Which I saw, Oh get out in it, she goes

1288
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: like the girl who plays you know which, She's fine whatever.

1289
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 2: Perfect, I'm just she owns me. So yeah, Star Wars

1290
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 2: felt like I was like, this is culture. This is important.

1291
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 2: I need to have like an encyclopedic knowledge of this movie.

1292
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 2: And then immediately when they started making more than the

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01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 2: first three, I was like, I'm out, I can't keep

1294
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 2: with this. But the first three are like that.

1295
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 3: Was the first three are just like, I'll that Really

1296
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 3: that's a culture that made me cy culture for me.

1297
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it also was my introduction in nerd culture.

1298
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 2: And it was kind of simultaneous with a Nintendo sixty four,

1299
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 2: so I was like, is this my identity? Like am I?

1300
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 2: But it was so user friendly And then when everyone

1301
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 2: like went gamer, I was like, I guess I'm not

1302
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 2: like I bid you. I had I had to know.

1303
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: You guys are packed, but you guys are diverging on

1304
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: the same path. I went another way. Y'all went yeah,

1305
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: because when I.

1306
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 2: Could hold this is accessible like the n sixty four

1307
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 2: controller with the three prongs and you can hold both

1308
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 2: like I knew how to hold that, I don't know

1309
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 2: how to hold this one.

1310
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: There's tube, there's two. Now there's two prongs out.

1311
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 2: About the re release from this podcast.

1312
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 3: You guys, yes, like break news in video games and

1313
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 3: I'll break news in theme parks. So, by the way,

1314
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 3: this new permitting anyway universe.

1315
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 2: This is our biggest divergence as people.

1316
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: I can't do it, you can't do it, overwhelming?

1317
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 2: What about the family terrified? Terrified rides rides, theme parks people,

1318
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 2: I just just.

1319
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: Your what about your son?

1320
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 2: I will do it for I'll do anything for him.

1321
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I let someone cut me open to bring

1322
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 2: him to the world my sea section twice in this

1323
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 2: it happened. It fucking sucked, but the best thing the.

1324
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: World the world.

1325
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 2: But anyway, I will do it. I'll do it for him.

1326
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 2: But I will. It's not like I'm going to be

1327
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 2: like excited and taking him.

1328
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: I'll be like, yeah, you're going to be You're going

1329
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: to be the one kicking and screaming.

1330
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 2: Probably rumpy and hot, like in a stroller, like.

1331
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: Go in February. I'm of course thinking you'll go to Orlando.

1332
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 2: You'll go to orlandos this sentence. No one's ever said

1333
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 2: to me in my life.

1334
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: Honestly, how she how's she to be able to say

1335
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: that about yourself?

1336
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 3: That?

1337
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 2: No one would say that. All they ever told me

1338
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 2: is you're in Orlando most of the But it's also

1339
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 2: part of the same thing where people would never be like,

1340
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 2: have you gone to Coachella? No one has ever been like,

1341
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 2: are you a burner? They're like, you need a bathroom

1342
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 2: that has a sanitizing twilve, like a moist toilet. Toilet,

1343
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 2: why can't say that word I'm too tired that's ready

1344
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 2: to wipe your seat down? Like you can't. You need

1345
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 2: money to be part of something. You can't be in

1346
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 2: a barter economy like they're just like, you don't belong

1347
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 2: in these So it's the same part as like you

1348
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 2: don't belong at you don't. I will go like Meghan

1349
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 2: is there. I will support my girl like i'll support

1350
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 2: my actual son, like anytime, I'll support you. If you're

1351
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 2: like I need you to be there, I will go

1352
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 2: there for you. Do they do a Megan haunted house?

1353
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 2: They did? She was part of she own house. Wyes,

1354
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 2: she's part of it. They dance, Oh, they needed they

1355
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 2: needed got her own house.

1356
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: Okay, I tell you there are sanitizing toalletts or you

1357
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: know what.

1358
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 2: We're going back to the first. They're absolutely not a

1359
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 2: Brenning Man.

1360
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 3: There's no one experience you'd enjoy there at Burning Man

1361
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 3: in Orlando?

1362
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 2: Why am I so stuck on Burning Man? I'm like,

1363
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,439
Speaker 2: do I want? Okay?

1364
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 3: Is it a thing where it's like, do you judge

1365
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 3: yourself for not being like a burner type you?

1366
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 2: I wanted to project I know we have this vie.

1367
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 2: I wanted to project an energy of like I might,

1368
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 2: but I in the last couple of years, I'm like,

1369
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 2: I'm never I wouldn't like it. Why do I want

1370
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 2: to pretend to be someone who would enjoy it?

1371
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: Totally?

1372
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 2: Okay? My last culture, I feel like I can't. I

1373
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 2: don't know if you guys have talked about this. It's

1374
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 2: so specific. I'm looking at you because it feels more likely.

1375
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 2: Let's go the Rapunzel episode of Storytime Theater with Shelley

1376
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 2: Duval who needed radishes. No, okay, I don't know this

1377
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 2: with pregnancy cravings.

1378
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 1: I'm a Shelley Duval girl.

1379
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 2: But theater sorry, Fairy sal Thea said storyte it is

1380
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 2: huge it was. I think it's what allows me to

1381
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 2: make Megan movies. Honestly, explain. It is camp. Yes, it's

1382
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 2: high camp, but not educational. It's not Cestmey Street gamp.

1383
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 2: You call Semey Street camp. I don't know. It's not

1384
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 2: that it is.

1385
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: I think it is.

1386
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:12,959
Speaker 2: It's like Shelley Duvall, full full expression, Shelley Duvall, full

1387
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 2: eye aperture, like.

1388
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 1: A full eye aperture, full like giant wigs cliff while

1389
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: the wind.

1390
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 2: Blows, big sets, big set, And you.

1391
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 3: Mean like it's how you know, to eliminate the checkpoints

1392
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 3: to like get in there with Megan a scene like.

1393
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 2: Tear up in a scene with her, like play the stakes. Yes,

1394
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 2: don't wink at the camera, don't be don't be cool girl.

1395
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 2: Now you can be. You can be in on it

1396
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 2: in prep, like for all the script drafts, in post,

1397
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 2: for all the editing everything. When I am there, and

1398
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 2: even like in video village before I step into set,

1399
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 2: like in that mode when I walk into those scenes

1400
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 2: with Megan and she's telling me some ship and I'm emotional.

1401
01:04:53,360 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 2: You just have to. That's that's why I'm actually feel that, Yes,

1402
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 2: of course you must. You must otherwise it's not fun

1403
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 2: for anyone. What we are all committed to the bit deeply, deeply, deeply.

1404
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: Is Jenna on reading the lines?

1405
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 2: No, sadly, she does it in a in a booth.

1406
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 3: All good, no problem, no problem, Jenna, You're not disappointing me.

1407
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 2: You're okay, that's okay, that's okay, We're fine. I'm okay.

1408
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 2: Are you okay? Yeah, I'm okay that Jenna is not there?

1409
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 2: Are you guys okay? I just recently amazing. He's amazing.

1410
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 2: I saw I saw last night. It was so fun.

1411
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 2: I love her.

1412
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: Who else showed up to the Megan to We all did.

1413
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 2: And we are so close as a cast. Yes, Aristotle,

1414
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 2: b j A. Amy, who is the physical who was

1415
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 2: great on your show. Amy's the physical performer of Megan

1416
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 2: was there looking. They are growing up so fast. I'm

1417
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 2: so old. But Violet and Amy, Violet plays Katie and

1418
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 2: she was there, Tim Sharp and Avana Sokna, who you

1419
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 2: know because you've seen place. Amelia was there and everyone,

1420
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 2: I mean it was just and John Van Epps who

1421
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 2: plays Test, I mean it was and Meredith, who is

1422
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 2: there without being in the movie. She's in the movie,

1423
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 2: just in the way she influences me as a human being. Anyway,

1424
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 2: that was my culture, that was my last culture.

1425
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: So what's the through line? Mary poppin Sound of Music.

1426
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 1: John Rivers on Testame, Straight Star Wars and Rapunzel talk

1427
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: about the specific Rapunzel Radishes episode.

1428
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:24,919
Speaker 2: I think it's it was sticky because I'd never seen

1429
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 2: anyone want radishes and consume them in the way that

1430
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 2: she does. So she's having like pregnancy cravings and needs

1431
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 2: them transported to her. And the part of it that

1432
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 2: sense memory ish is watching someone like eat radishes and

1433
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 2: the delta between my level of enjoyment when I eventually

1434
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 2: got my hands on a radish and what the look

1435
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 2: on Shelley Duvall's face like radicalized Radishali radialized to me

1436
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 2: and I was like, I just really, I like, I

1437
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 2: don't know, it just crystallized this thing of like this

1438
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 2: isn't objectively, this shouldn't be eaten this way, and she's not,

1439
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 2: it's not real all, but she made it feel real

1440
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 2: because yes, exactly, because she was committed to the bit exactly.

1441
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 2: And I was like, that is cool to your guys's point,

1442
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 2: I was like, this is she's being cool and I'm

1443
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 2: like really enjoying. I'm in it and outside of it

1444
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:14,439
Speaker 2: at the same time. It is one of my first

1445
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 2: experiences that I.

1446
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 1: Think fabulous constellation of answers. Thank you for that.

1447
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 2: Thank you for giving me.

1448
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:30,479
Speaker 1: To think about culture. Okay, we gotta get you out think, honey,

1449
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 1: We gotta do think so honey.

1450
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 3: So this is the sixty second segment that uh did

1451
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 3: you wait?

1452
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: What did you just show me on your phone? Are

1453
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: they texting you?

1454
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 3: Oh?

1455
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:40,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, well good, we got it. We got okay, good,

1456
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 2: we have to do what we have to do.

1457
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 3: We gotta do ok So, this is the sixty second

1458
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 3: segment we have on this podcast each and every week

1459
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 3: we rent against something in culture.

1460
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 2: I do have something that felt apropos. Okay, here we go.

1461
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 1: This is that Rogers. I don't think so money as

1462
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 1: time starts now.

1463
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 3: I don't think so honey, use of the term millennial

1464
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 3: as a slur nowadays.

1465
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 2: You know what, gen Z, I have news for you.

1466
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 3: You're getting older every single second, and I have to

1467
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 3: tell you something. When you get to the point where

1468
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 3: you're our age, you're gonna look back. You look stupid.

1469
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 3: Like the way that you guys dress. You look so stupid.

1470
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 3: I understand that.

1471
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 2: We looked stupid.

1472
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 3: We did like the you know, the Rise, the v next,

1473
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,600
Speaker 3: like I wore American Peril, Like it was like I

1474
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 3: worked there and I probably tried, you know what I mean,

1475
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 3: But like I can own my cringe, and I hope

1476
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 3: you get there because you look so stupid. Also, you're

1477
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 3: all queer cool at least we fuck. You're not even fucking.

1478
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 3: You're not even using it. You're not even using it.

1479
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 3: You guys don't vote. We vote.

1480
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, Like we're out here trying really hard.

1481
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 3: And I get that it's cringe, but use of the

1482
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 3: term cringe and millennial as a slur, it's like so boring.

1483
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what's worse than cringe being boring.

1484
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 3: I don't think so, honey. You said millennial as a slur.

1485
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 3: Please like us one minute.

1486
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: That's beautiful, artful. I tried, and that was very millennial

1487
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 1: of about to bring this out.

1488
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 2: No, it did, it was it was.

1489
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 1: It was like it was a mixture.

1490
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 3: So it was like last night, like me being like,

1491
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 3: oh thirty plus thing that definitely shook me.

1492
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 2: And again they meant nothing by it.

1493
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 3: But also Marnie Michaels as Millennial Icon and Girls as

1494
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 3: Millennial Landmark Show. And I think that's part of the

1495
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 3: reason why I'm so like in I think it's why

1496
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,679
Speaker 3: it's hitting again is because people now have aged into

1497
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,480
Speaker 3: like a not a self consciousness, but a self awareness

1498
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:33,759
Speaker 3: where we can all really laugh and we're all laughing

1499
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 3: at ourselves. So gen Z being like the millennial pause

1500
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 3: like and getting us self conscious. It's like, no, no, no,

1501
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 3: we don't need that. We are self aware. We're millennials.

1502
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. The amount of times I've seen I don't know

1503
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: it's because my phone knows that we're talking to you,

1504
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 1: but it's like that we were about to talk to you,

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01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 1: but all the past week it was just like, let's

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01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 1: make fun of the girl put stub out there. It's

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01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 1: like that's been resurfacing in such a huge way because

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01:09:58,240 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 1: of this thing where we're all like, okay, I think

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01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 1: we're the hell, Like, let's just move on.

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01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 3: And another thing is like on TikTok, it's like ough

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01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 3: the millennial pause, Like we did a tech took the

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Speaker 3: other day.

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01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 2: I cut the millennial pause.

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01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 1: Like it's like it's like a video where it's like, hey, guys,

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01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:13,520
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, yeah.

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01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 2: Because our phones have too many photos on them and

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01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 2: they're just like slow, and we assume that it takes

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01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 2: the second to start.

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01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 1: It's that you hit It's that a millennial person will

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01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,600
Speaker 1: hit record and then it takes them a second to

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01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 1: realize that that.

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01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 3: It's filming, and so now I go and the always

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01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 3: but the thing is that is so stupid as a

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01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 3: thing to pick on. And then I can't help but

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01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 3: feel that in years time it's gonna be dumber that

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01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,959
Speaker 3: people were like, oh, the millennial pause, then the millennial

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01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 3: pause being a thing like I think you guys in

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01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,679
Speaker 3: the grander scheme here are being uncool. I think it's

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01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 3: less cool to call out the millennial pause then like

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01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 3: to have it sure, all right, this is bowing yangs.

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01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 3: I don't think so honey. As time starts now, I

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01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:55,799
Speaker 3: don't think so honey.

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Speaker 1: Idioms, I'm just saying, in every language it is linguistic gatekeeping.

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01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 1: It's unless you're a native speaker, you will spend the

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01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: rest of your life trying to learn a French idiom

1536
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 1: and a Mandarin idiom. I don't know, like, I don't

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01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,600
Speaker 1: know these things, even though I supposedly like spoke the

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01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 1: languages at one point. English idioms. Let's just go through

1539
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 1: a couple of them, raining cats and dogs. What the

1540
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 1: fuck what are you talking about? Just say it's raining

1541
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: very hard, it's it's coming down out there.

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01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:30,799
Speaker 2: Well that actually that isn't.

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01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 1: Quite back off that one. Figurative language. I'm just gonna say,

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01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: figurative language beautiful has a place in in in our

1545
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: in our culture. Idioms are the thing where it's like

1546
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 1: it's poetry trying to disguise itself as like colloquial ship,

1547
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 1: and it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, let's

1548
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: just I'm I'm being a literalist for the rest of

1549
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:55,560
Speaker 1: my life. I cannot speak in these metaphorical figurative things idioms.

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01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey.

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01:11:58,120 --> 01:11:58,879
Speaker 2: And that's one.

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01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 1: See this, I feel like one of the great ap

1553
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 1: comp like I wanted to.

1554
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 2: Talk to you about French, well, sidebar about it. Your

1555
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 2: French is great. I can hear it, Yes, in a

1556
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 2: casual where anyway we'll talk about it often. Okay, okay,

1557
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 2: but yes, you are absolutely right. And the videos I

1558
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 2: love the most of other cultures are the ones where

1559
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 2: they say their idioms out loud in English. So we

1560
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 2: can hear what they sound like. And they're like, we

1561
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 2: know this is crazy and you'll never learn how to

1562
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 2: say this, but we say this to each other. All right,

1563
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 2: this is Alison Williams. I don't think so much. Time

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01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 2: starts now, Okay, Slant's got to go. I'm sorry. I

1565
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 2: can't anymore. I can't tell you to leave slanter out.

1566
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:40,919
Speaker 2: Is there slaughter in this or we calling it coriander?

1567
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 2: I just can't and this is it. It has to go.

1568
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 2: I'm done. I'm sorry. Loud places why I can't be

1569
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 2: in allowed place. No, I can't be in a low place.

1570
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 2: It can't be in a lowed restaurant. I have an

1571
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,640
Speaker 2: app to test decibels. I know the decerl level of

1572
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 2: New York City restaurants. I will not go if it

1573
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 2: is too loud. What's the point close talking because of

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01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 2: loud places?

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01:12:58,040 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 3: Do?

1576
01:12:58,200 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to smell your breath. I don't want

1577
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 2: to feel it on my body. I don't want to

1578
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 2: get order on my face. Get back. I do not

1579
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,600
Speaker 2: talk to me too close. People who like fish and

1580
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 2: eggs and eat them in the world with the rest

1581
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 2: of us, stop keep your disgusting foodcink like cilantro to yourself.

1582
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to be in the same room as

1583
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 2: an egg based product or a fish product. Keep it

1584
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 2: somewhere else with these seconds lack of monocoachure we already

1585
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 2: talked about. The last one is I actually do need sleep,

1586
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 2: but I identify as someone who doesn't, and I hate it.

1587
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 2: I loved that. I was a four hours a night

1588
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:30,679
Speaker 2: person in high school, in college. I miss her terribly.

1589
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 2: She is gone, I need eight I need to accept

1590
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 2: this and I don't want to, so I don't think

1591
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 2: so honey, needing sleep. And that's one minute, and she

1592
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 2: used to be mine. That song we go.

1593
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 1: Off for another hour. We need to hear you saying

1594
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: this at some point in the future because she has

1595
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 1: to go. Megan two point outs in theaters June twenty seventh,

1596
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 1: go see it. It's so fucking good. The moment is

1597
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 1: I can't spoil. I wanted to say it slip the singer,

1598
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 1: but yeah, it is. It'll be such a delightful surprise to.

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01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 2: You, expose the theater, exposed to say so.

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Speaker 1: Much for you are here, Thank you so much.

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01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 2: I love you both. I feel confident dropping that heart

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01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:10,560
Speaker 2: l thank you for the hours and our days cumulatively

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01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 2: months of entertainment. Thank you for like just everything. Thank

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01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 2: you for recognizing me as cool, low key before I did,

1605
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 2: and you are yes, and we appreciate it. And I

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01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 2: r s CPS as well. That was like sort of

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01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 2: a coup of a defined gravity. Bye.

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Speaker 1: Last Culture Rests is the production by Will Ferrell's Big

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01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 1: Money Players and then I Heart Radio.

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01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 3: Podcasts, created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yek,

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01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,400
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