1 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Cutting the Distance. It's 2 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: the beginning of August, and all I can think about 3 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: all day long is Elk. I was able to take 4 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: a trip out last weekend and got some trail cameras up. 5 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: I've also figured out that some of these cell cams 6 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: give me a lot of anxiety because if they're not 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: producing pictures only a day or two in, I want 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: to go back up and move them. I think. I 9 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: like the idea of cameras just sitting there and then 10 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: I don't. It's a surprise until I show up and 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: check them. But anyways, got cameras out, thinking about Elk 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: all the time, a little bit thinking about Alaska, Doll Sheep. 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: I'll be leaving here in a couple of days. Next 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: time i'm back on the podcast, that hunt should be 15 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: about finished up, and I'll be able to share those experiences. 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: But for me right now, all I can think about 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: is Elk. You know, spending a ton of time on 18 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: Google Earth, on on X you know, we got all 19 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: of our tags in our pocket, just trying to figure 20 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: out and do the best of our ability kind of 21 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: lay out these hunts that that we have before us. 22 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: But on today's episode, I didn't really want to do, 23 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: you know, listener Q and A. I didn't want to 24 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: bring a guest on. I really just wanted to talk 25 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: about my personal experience again, but really mistakes and a 26 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: lot of people you know, want to learn from from successes, 27 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: and you can, but I feel like there's so much 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: more that can be learned from mistakes. And take it 29 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: from me, is I've failed a lot more in the 30 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: Elk Woods than I've been successful as far as you know, 31 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: you know, specific circumstances. I failed more of those and 32 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: I've been successful, and so I really want to kind 33 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: of dive into those and from my own experience kind 34 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: of say, in my opinion, this is what causes a 35 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, to to not not to 36 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: tag throughout Elk season. So we're gonna go through. We've 37 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: got ten things here I'm going to talk about. I 38 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: just did my best to layout you know, ten of them. 39 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: I've I've did a seminar, I've did some articles on 40 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: nees for a long time. But they're good. They've got 41 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: this got a good structure, it's got good backbone, and 42 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: we can talk about some things that kind of offshoot 43 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: from from these ten you know things. So I get 44 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: to go to a lot of sportsman shows, I get 45 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 1: a lot of emails. I get a lot of people 46 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: contacting me about their failures or why did this not work, 47 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: whether it's calling, whether it's setting up, And a lot 48 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: of people could be like, man, this is just boring, 49 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: Like I don't want to deal with this. But for me, 50 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: I can take I can learn from that. Right, I 51 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: only get so many hours in September, and I can't 52 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: be in all of these situations all the time. And 53 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: so if I can use others, you know, experiences and 54 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: some of their failures and some of their decision making 55 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: and try to continue to add that to my experiences 56 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: and formulate better plans, it's all. It's all, it's all 57 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: a win for me. I'm always learning. I don't got 58 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: this completely figured out yet. You know, it's elk hunting. 59 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: The only thing for certain when it comes to calling 60 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: an elk is that nothing from time to time is certain. 61 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: It's always new. There's always a new wrinkle the elk. 62 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: You're going to react a little bit differently, and so 63 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: we're always changing. Now, what I will say is when 64 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: when I go in to do some of these, you know, 65 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: setting up or getting close. We kind of tend to 66 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: run the same prescriptive plan over and over because it 67 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: has worked enough times that we know within a season 68 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 1: it's going to probably pan out in our favor. And 69 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: a quote that I like to use for my good 70 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,399 Speaker 1: buddy Thomas Edison, I've not failed. I've just found ten 71 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: thousand ways that won't work. And what that said, when 72 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: it comes to elk hunting, it might not work ten 73 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: thousand times in a row, but you never know that 74 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: certain elk on the ten thousand and month time that 75 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,119 Speaker 1: might be the thing that was going to work on them. 76 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: So with that said, now that we're all confused and like, 77 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: well I don't I'm not gonna trust anything that he 78 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: says here because he just said anything can work in 79 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: some things don't. This is the general consensus, is this. 80 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: These things that we're going to talk about the biggest 81 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: mistakes elk hunters can make. These are the things that 82 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: the majority of time, you know, will screw things up 83 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: when we get to things like wind and stuff like that. 84 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: Like I guarantee you that will always screw an elk 85 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: cut up. So number one and this is maybe the 86 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: thing that I tell people, and so of my seminars 87 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: is this is probably the thing most people do, if 88 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: if we could pick in one of these ten things, 89 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: this is the thing that probably the majority of elk 90 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: hunters that I talked to do on a call in. 91 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: And so I think this is affecting the most amount 92 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: of people, is calling your way into elk and not 93 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: getting close enough before you call. Anybody that's listened to 94 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: cutting the distance before you guys have probably heard this. 95 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: You know, you got the the the idea that this 96 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: bull wants to breed, he wants to stay alive. And 97 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: so when another bull approaches, that sounds whether it's small 98 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: or big, and we're going to get into some of that, 99 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, calling like a big bull or a small bull. 100 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: Regardless of what bull's coming at him, his first instinct 101 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: is to take his cows and leave or stay a 102 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: certain distan. It's a way and you know, be able 103 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: to maintain that ability to recreate and stay alive. So 104 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: you know, you get a bowl of bugle, whether they're 105 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: bigling on their own or you get them to bugle, 106 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: and so we we call our way into it. You know, 107 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: whether that's everye hundred yards, every fifty yards. We want 108 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: to and it's I think it's a little bit of 109 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: natural instinct on our side, is we want to keep 110 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: that bowl beggling. We want to know that we're heading 111 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: in the right direction, we want to know that he's 112 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: still there. We want to know all of these things. 113 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 1: But in my opinion, it's best to just be quiet, 114 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: assume his position at that point, and then move your 115 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: way into it. Resist resist that urge to bugle once 116 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: you know his location. Instead, grab your wind checker. You know, 117 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: anytime you want a bugle, replace it with a wind 118 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: check and you're going to be better off until the 119 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: point where you think you're really close. So if you 120 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: got the wind right, you're coming in down wind of 121 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: these elk I'm ideally trying to get within one hundred 122 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: yards closer if possible. The vegetation the terrain allows me 123 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: to I'm gonna get a little bit closer, and and 124 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: I really want to. You know, when I get a 125 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: bowl of beagle, I'm looking at, you know, on X maps, 126 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: like where do I think this bull's at at this 127 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: point in time? And I may even drop a pin 128 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: if I'm not super confident before I think I'm going 129 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: to get turned around if I got to get down 130 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: in some timber. So I'm going to drop a pin. 131 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: And then if I get the wind right and I 132 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: approach those things, I should at some point, anybody that's 133 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: been in the woods long enough and smelled elk knows 134 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: that it's a pretty pungent. It's got some it's got 135 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: some ability to travel, it's got some staying power. Right, 136 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: And so if I get the wind right and I'm 137 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: approaching where I think these elk are, at some point, 138 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: I'm also going to start to smell these elk on 139 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: my way or if they've been in this area. Let's 140 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: say it's you know, late morning. We think those elk 141 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: are going from bed or from feed to bed, and 142 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: they've been in that area a lot, You're going to 143 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: start to see where they've tore the area up even 144 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: as you approach them, if you're a couple hundred yards off. 145 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: But potentially, but I'm starting to, you know, smell for elk. 146 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: I'm starting to look for elk. We're just gonna move 147 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: in completely silently at this point. Now with that said, 148 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: I'm not too worried if I you know, snap a stick. 149 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: You know, ideally I want to go in quiet, but 150 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: elk also make noises, so if there isn't approaching elk, 151 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: it's not the end of the world, you know, as 152 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: you approach. So I'm gonna be quiet and I'm gonna 153 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: get to to a tight distance before I ever ever 154 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: make that call we we want, you know, I use 155 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: the shock and awe a lot of times if a 156 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: bull's biglan and I don't ever have to make a noise. 157 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: That bowl doesn't know I exist until I'm right there, 158 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: and it's it seems to be like you didn't You 159 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: didn't trigger their their curiosity, like is this a real elk? 160 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: Are they questioning if it's real? If you get close 161 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: and tight, they've really got no no other option but 162 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: to to come in, you know, and potentially check you out. 163 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: At that point, they really can't round their cows up, 164 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: you know, anybody had seen cow was in the timber 165 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: or feeding. They're kind of just strung out, you know, 166 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: maybe maybe a certain width, a certain length. Those elk 167 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: aren't all in a tidy bunch where that bull can 168 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: always round them up and get out of there. So 169 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: you really kind of left him with he can need 170 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: to take a couple of cows and get out of there, 171 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: or he's got to come check out you know, this 172 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: bowl that's very very close to his cows, and and 173 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: so that's that's my opinion. Do not do not bugle 174 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: your way in a lot of times you're gonna get 175 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: in that cat and mouse game where those elk always 176 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: stay three to four hundred yards ahead of you. You 177 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: never close any distance, and that's just kind of how 178 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: your morning hunt will end. You're just playing cat and 179 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: mouse and you never can catch up to him. You 180 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: also typically kind of push them through where they wanted 181 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: a bed, so now you got elk kind of out 182 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: of their routine. It just gets very very difficult. I'd 183 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: rather keep them comfortable in their area. And you know, 184 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: so for all of those reasons, do not bugle your 185 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: way into elk when you're trying to call them. In 186 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: Number two, reluctance to change strategies. And this is one 187 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: of the things that really kind of plagued my early 188 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: What I would say, before I got smarter, I would 189 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: sit in E scout, so reluctance to change strategy. I 190 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: would E scout. I would sit on my computer all 191 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: you know, all seat all the time leading up to season. 192 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: I had you know, this is I had Plan A, 193 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 1: I had B, C, D, and E didn't exist. I 194 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: I would go in come up with a plan A. 195 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: I would go scout, and sometimes scouting looked like Plan 196 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: A was going to be awesome, but then the hunt 197 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: would roll in. You know, there were there was more pressure, 198 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: the el could move, the bulls went and found cows, 199 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: whatever it may be. But I was very reluctant to 200 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: change what I thought my plan was going into the hunt. 201 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't let the hunt dictate what my hunt. You know, 202 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: what my plan should be, what my strategy should be. 203 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 1: So you know, regardless of my countless hours dissecting Google 204 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: Earth and where I thought I needed to be, where 205 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: my camp was, you know, I set up my my 206 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: my spike tent or my wall tent perfectly. I knew 207 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: where I was going to hike that first morning, where 208 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: I was going to bugle from, you know, and I 209 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: did all that before season even been arrived. The only 210 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: problem was I would get to that spot and nothing 211 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: was turning out like I wanted it to the elk 212 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: court in the right spots, but I would try to 213 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: force that hunt. I was trying to force a square 214 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: peg in the round hole, and it just wouldn't work. 215 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: And many times, you know, if we would prepack, or 216 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: you know, back in the day, I would go in 217 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: like the weekend before and maybe stash some of my food, 218 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: I would just ride it out regardless, you know, regardless 219 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: of the action, regardless of what I thought my chances 220 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: were for success. We would just ride it out and 221 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: try to force it. But now fast forward to where 222 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm at now, I'm a hunting career, not even in 223 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: as good as shape as I was back when I 224 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: was young. I will not hesitate to pull up spike 225 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: camp and hike out to ten miles that I just 226 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: hiked in that morning or that day before, whatever it is. 227 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: If I've determined that I would likely won't kill an 228 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: elk in this area, or if I do, it's going 229 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: to be more on you know, luck than it was 230 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: on skill or on being able to hunt the elk. 231 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: So don't put all of your eggs in one basket. 232 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: Have a plan, B, C, D, E F whatever it needs. 233 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,719 Speaker 1: You know, have multiple plans until you get into an 234 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: area that has elk that are ready to play the game. 235 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: You know, maybe doesn't have the pressure, maybe has all 236 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: of these things that allow you a better chance of 237 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: success and doing it, you know, in my you know, 238 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: on on my terms, playing the game the way that 239 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: I want to play it. You know, you cannot force 240 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: elk to be where they don't want to be. You 241 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: cannot force less pressure than where the pressure is. So 242 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: the only way that is to move. You know, I 243 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: give a spot a good twenty four hours, and if 244 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: I don't see what I want to see or the 245 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: amount of elk that I want to see, I'm out 246 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: of there. I'm gonna go to a different trailhead. I'm 247 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: going to bomb into a different area on a different 248 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: day hunt and do some scouting, and all you know, 249 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: I'm moving and I'm just trying to find good areas. 250 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: And they in some certain areas we've hunted year after year. 251 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: That changes from year to year. So you can't go 252 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: into one spot planet a hunter there the whole time 253 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: because you don't know if the elk are going to 254 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: be a couple of drainage is over or vice versa. 255 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: They may stay in that same drainage year after year. 256 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: So you need to be mobile, be willing to go 257 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: find the elk. It's our job to go find them. 258 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: You know, I'm looking at things. If i can't find 259 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: them at a certain elevation, I'm gonna go. I want 260 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: one of my plans, whether it's A and D or 261 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: opposite elevations. Ones in the timber bottom, ones up in 262 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: the alpine, you know, ones in, ones in steep country, 263 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: ones in benchie country, ones down by the main highway 264 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: that goes through the unit. Ones as far away from 265 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: the highway as I can get. I'm trying to look 266 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: at different different you know, factors that may affect where 267 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: these elk are at. And so I'm I'm you know, 268 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: being very you know, contrasting in you know, an alpine 269 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: area that's as you know, remote as you can get, 270 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: versus a road, a piece of public that's right off 271 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: of a public highway. I'm gonna to check, you know, 272 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: both of those spots out. Is one you know, different 273 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: than the other. Obviously yes, but is it different as 274 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: far as holding elk? You know, don't get too fixated 275 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: on one area, and you know, go check out different areas. 276 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: It's gonna, you know, typically typically pay off. As I'm 277 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: looking for these different areas, but they all need to 278 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: still have food, water, and some bedding or some escapement 279 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: security cover to survive. It seems simple, but some of 280 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: the areas I hunt in the alpine, there's not water forever, 281 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: so if you're on a dry ear, you may just 282 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 1: not find elk. You know, if you're some of these 283 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: elk in certain areas, they live in ninety percent stage, 284 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: but they do have, you know, some timber pockets and 285 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: some north facing slopes, whatever it may be. So you 286 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: need to make sure. I like to make sure all 287 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: of my spots that I want to go check out 288 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: have food, water, and some sort of timber or brush 289 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: or something that those elk can get to, you know, 290 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: and and look at all of those things. Another thing 291 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: that that I used to talk about. You know, we 292 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: get a lot of questions on when your your strategy, 293 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: but this has more with like planning your strategy prior 294 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: to leaving and what we could vacation you're gonna take 295 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: or when you're gonna hunt. Is moon phase a little bit? 296 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: I yes, I will admit moon phase changes the behavior 297 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: of elk during the reut I'll put that out there. 298 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: With that said, I do not care about the moon 299 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: phase when I'm picking when I'm gonna hunt, where I'm 300 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: gonna hunt, how I'm gonna lay out my seasons, any 301 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: of that, the elk are gonna regardless of what the 302 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: moon phase is, I will you know, I may need 303 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: to be earlier. You know, let's say we're we're going 304 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: into a full moon, you know, even barely coming off 305 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: of it. You know, on the backside, those elk will 306 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: do a majority or they will be more active during 307 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: the night, and it will it'll creep a little bit 308 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: into that that next morning and it'll start maybe a 309 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: little later. But you need, you need to be in 310 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: your prime, your your your your number one spot early 311 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: in the morning so you can kind of keep tabs 312 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: on that. This I'm gonna let you guys all probably 313 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: assume I'm a nerd, know that I'm a nerd by now, 314 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: but I use Excel for a lot. So one time 315 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: I had went through and looked at the dates I 316 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: had killed a bunch of my archery bulls on you know, 317 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: dating back to the early two thousand and one, two 318 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: thousand and twos, when I you know, started killing roosevelts 319 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: all the way up to some of my more recent 320 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: bowls that I've killed around you know, in other Western states, 321 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: and I added up and just went back because I 322 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: didn't know what the moon phase was on those days, 323 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't paying attention. But I would go back and 324 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: look at those and I realized that I had killed 325 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: the majority of my bigger bulls within two or three 326 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: days of a full moon. So it really didn't matter. 327 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: It really didn't change the way, you know, my success. 328 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: It actually was adding to my success. Now, I'm sure 329 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: it wasn't a factor that that you know was a 330 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: was a positive towards it, but it didn't seem to matter. 331 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: You know, these other these other thing kind of uh, 332 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: you know, canceled it out or just elk playing the 333 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: game like we did didn't really you know, matter on 334 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: the moon phase. So I wanted to throw that out there. 335 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: Another way to think about, you know, reluctance to change 336 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: strategy is if you go out and let's say your 337 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: go to is always go out in just a normal 338 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: calmu at any elk that you see out in the woods, Well, 339 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: if that's not working, or if you're not killing a 340 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: bowl you know, every third year, every two years, every 341 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: other year, every year, maybe you should listen to And 342 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm not saying a person that that hunts like me. 343 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: Maybe listen to a different guy that you know kills 344 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: elk every year. Maybe he's nothing but a spot in 345 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: stock guy, and so you're like, huh, all right, so 346 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: he doesn't call all but yet he still kills bulls. 347 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: Or hey, this guy over here that bugles at every 348 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: bowl kills a bowl every year, like maybe, So don't 349 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: be stuck in your ways that your way is the 350 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: only way. Now, if you like to hunt a certain 351 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: way by all means, don't change. But I'm saying if 352 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: you're only your only measurement of of success is by 353 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: killing a bowl, then maybe you should start to look 354 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: at other ways to do it or other other options. 355 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: As far as you know, calling elk or killing elk 356 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: or getting to within bow range, you know there are 357 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,239 Speaker 1: no shortcuts, though. You can't just listen to people and 358 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: go out and be able to implement that. The best 359 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 1: way to learn is to get out there in the 360 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: field and run your own system as much as possible. 361 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: But if your own system gives back, you know, poor results, 362 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: then maybe you should change up and be willing to change. 363 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: You know that that process, So listen to successful elk hunters. 364 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: Listen to as many as possible to hunt as many 365 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: different ways as possible to get an idea of their 366 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: strategy and tactics. Take all of those, throw them in 367 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: the cauldron, boil them up, and then come up with 368 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: your own system that's maybe a little different or a 369 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: little better than what you're doing now. If you're not 370 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: finding the success that the others are, you know, it 371 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: take can take years off your learning curve if you 372 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 1: just listen versus be stubborn and like I'm gonna do 373 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: it this way all the time. Number three, the resistance 374 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: to do what it takes. And when I say resistance, 375 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: I fought this when I was, you know, younger. I 376 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: would go in. I waited eleven months for September to 377 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: roll back around, right as soon as October first hit. 378 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: I had my my calendar set like I wanted September 379 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: to be here, and I would go good for a 380 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: day or two, maybe three. You know, maybe I wasn't 381 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: as good as shape, or the elk hunting's not going 382 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: as I wanted, and so I'm a little bit tired 383 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: and burnout, and I would I could remember sitting on 384 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: the mountain, have bowlsby going down below me at times, 385 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: you know, maybe I didn't have a good plan, but 386 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: somewhere in my head I allowed it to like creep in. Like, man, 387 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: you can get back to home an hour and a 388 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: half and you know, be eating a hot breakfast. You know, 389 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: you could get back to the tent and you know, 390 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: be taking a nap here in a half hour, you know, 391 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: versus I think you're And then I would start to 392 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: tell myself that I would go down there and screw 393 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: those Oh cup any ways, I just probably leave them 394 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: for this evening. Now, the more experienced, more mature me, 395 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: he says that that might not be a bad ideal 396 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: all the time, But back then I was letting kind 397 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: of the the you know, the naysayer kind of creep 398 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: in and tell me to go do something different, whether 399 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: it was you know, get out of there, just just 400 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: not hunt, you know. And the mental the mental part 401 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: of a hunt is just as real, if not more 402 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: than the physical side. You know, was I you know, 403 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: how far am I from the truck? Do I need 404 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: to go back? If we kill this elk? How bad 405 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: is the pack out gonna be? You know? Is there 406 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: a bowl closer to the road, Is there a bowl 407 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: closer to home? If you're constantly asking yourself these types 408 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: of questions. It's going to keep you away from opportunities 409 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: that may be the one that kind of, you know, 410 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: the that allows you to be successful or it gives 411 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: you the opportunity. So don't be the person talking yourself 412 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: out of opportunities that may prove to be your best 413 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: chance of success. You know, I've been fortunate to hunt 414 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: with a bunch of guys that are like minded. We 415 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: make it a point to no longer ask those questions. 416 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: No matter what you know you need to be. You 417 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: need to kind of battle hard on yourself though, be 418 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: a little bit bulletproof, and you have to become a 419 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: mentally tough elk hunting an elk hunter or an elk 420 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: hunting partner. You can't have partners that will kind of 421 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: breed out or materialize doubt, you know, on a hunt, 422 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: or also agree with you when you're down you're saying like, hey, 423 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: I think we should go back. You need that partner 424 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: at that time. You need to rely on him to 425 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: say like, no, we're going to stay here. We got this, 426 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: or vice versa. When your partner gets down, like even 427 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: if you got to fake it, like no, we need 428 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: to stay and that's kind of where we've got to 429 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: as a group. It helps us we're in the field 430 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: more when when we do have a good plan, we 431 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: don't start to second guess it. We're we're kind of 432 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: sitting there, you know, talking each other up or giving 433 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: each other even if it's false, false hope. We're there 434 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: for each other and then we're everything that we do, 435 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: every effort should benefit our success. And that's my mentality. 436 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: If I'm not an elk, I need to walk them 437 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: mount until I find out. I'm not going to take 438 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: a nap that day. I'm gonna use the afternoon downtime 439 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: to explore new basins or different levels within the mountain. 440 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: You know, within the basin. Everything that I do is 441 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: is going towards the success of me being, you know, 442 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: a successful oil hunter. And so that's kind of how 443 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: I run my day. You know, whether it's you know, 444 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: big one at you know, after dark or whatever it 445 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: may be, all those things kind of end up. You know, 446 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: they're tough to do, they're not easy to do, but 447 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: they will always make me a more successful oil hunter. 448 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: Number four is overthinking you're calling We mentioned earlier, both 449 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: were thinking about two things. Caws and five. The herd 450 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: bull is focused on breeding as many cows as possible 451 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: and keeping all the other bulls away. And I'm going 452 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: to oversimplify all this. The satellite bulls are trying to 453 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: steal as many cows away or just mining their business 454 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,479 Speaker 1: if they're too low in the pecking order, but always 455 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: willing to go find a cow, so you know. All 456 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: With that said, even the smallest rag bulls will typically 457 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: come into calls. It's it's it should be pretty straightforward 458 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: and simple when you think about it this way. All 459 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: I try to do is feed off of what those 460 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: bulls want, what they're doing at that and then what 461 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: their emotions are, and I try to get those bulls 462 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: fired up and into archery range. If it's a small bull, 463 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: I think I want him to think he's got a 464 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: chance at a cow, so I may not want to 465 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: have any other beagles involved. I may want to just 466 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: throw straight cow calls at him. If it's a semi mature, 467 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 1: you know, herd bull, I may throw some semi mature 468 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: bull sounds and cow sounds at him because he may 469 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: have a chance to steal that cow from me. Versus 470 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: a herd bull. I want to go in and let 471 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: him know I'm going to try to steal cows from him, 472 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 1: you know, And so I keep it very very simple. 473 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: You know, they herd bulls are going to be reluctant 474 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: to come a long distance, leave their cows and come 475 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: to a call. A satellite bull is more willing to travel, 476 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: you know, to a call. So you keep all of 477 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: that in mind. You start to develop a strategy very quickly, 478 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: just based on a few things that that I'm thinking 479 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: about within the hunt. You know, people that say you 480 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: shouldn't bugle. I think you should bugle a lot at 481 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: least to locate bulls when and we call this just 482 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: our location bugle. So I'm out there locating for ELK 483 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: a lot. I don't feel that you can do a 484 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: whole lot of damage there as long as they're not 485 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: winding you, you know. But but don't overthink you're calling 486 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: to a point where you're unwilling to make a call 487 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: at all during the situation, Like I've been around people 488 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: whore like I don't want to call. I don't want 489 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: to mess this up. You know, the best way, and 490 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: once again I had mentioned on a different topic, the 491 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: best way to just get out in the field as 492 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: much as possible, and try to develop your own tactics 493 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: to see what the outcome is. If I cal call here, 494 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: do I get a bugle? Do I get a counter respond? 495 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: Do I get elk leaving? If I go out there 496 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: and calf call, what do I get? If I go 497 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: out there and give a big nasty bugle? If I 498 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: go out there and give a small bugle, what are 499 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: they all going to do? And I just used enough experience, 500 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: you know, I don't like throwing numbers out there. I 501 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: don't talk about how many bulls I've killed. I don't 502 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: talk about how many elk I've called in. But I've 503 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: been able. I will say it's been a lot. I've 504 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: got a lot of bulls to bugle. I've been fortunate 505 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,719 Speaker 1: to elk come a whole lot in a whole lot 506 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: of great areas. But everyone is different as well, right 507 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: I try to you know, I locate bulls, I get 508 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: in tight and sometimes I might have a herd buwl. 509 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: But ten situations, he'll do ten different things regardless of 510 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: you know, I can col call to him one time 511 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: might be the right answer, bugle might be the right 512 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: answer next time. And so you just need to develop 513 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: a system that gives you the most confidence. But don't 514 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: overthink you're calling get in tight, you know, make you 515 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: think you're one of his cows. I then typically like 516 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: to announce that I am one of those cows close 517 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: to his herd, and then a challenge biagle will be 518 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: right behind that cow, basically letting that bowl know that 519 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: there's a bull with the cow, you know in your herd. 520 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: You know, for for herd bulls satellite bowls, I'm going 521 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: with lots of cow calls. I know I've oversimplified that, 522 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: all right, you just gave us one cookie cutter example 523 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: for bulls herd bowl and you gave us cookie cutter 524 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 1: examples with cow calls on satellites. But I guarantee you 525 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: that that right there is good enough advice to be 526 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: able to call in the majority of those bulls that 527 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: are out there with with pretty good certainty. You know, 528 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say you're gonna call every bowl in, 529 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: but that strategy works a lot of the time. Tip 530 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: Number or biggest mistake, or one of the biggest mistakes. 531 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: Number five is calling too quiet or too small. You know, 532 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: many times I'm sitting at a sportsman show or I 533 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: get an email like, hey, I don't want to be 534 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: a very big bull. What call? What diaphragm should I get? 535 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: Or I don't want to scare them off? Which is 536 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: fine if that's your strategy, maybe you found a ton 537 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: of success doing that by all means, that's fine, But 538 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: I also feel that it can also hurt your calling. 539 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: And I'm I'm gonna give some examples. Well, I'm fortunate 540 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: to hunt with some of the best callers that are 541 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: out there as well, you know, and we're never we 542 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: never call with the idea that we're too aggressive, we're 543 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: afraid that we're going to scare elk away. We don't 544 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: scare them away, we push them away for other reasons. 545 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: I've said, they want to maintain cows, they want to 546 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: do all of these things. Yeah. I recognize there's many 547 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: ways to be successful, but are you missing out on 548 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: opportunities because you aren't calling loud enough? So, you know, 549 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: let's say I'm in a patch of timber, we're calling bulls. 550 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: I've got one of my buddies behind me fifteen yards 551 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: he's ripping on beagles, and all of a sudden, this 552 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: bull starts to get closer one hundred yards. Well, guess 553 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: what at one hundred yards, that real bull has got depth, 554 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: he's got volume, he's got all of these things that 555 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: my buddy, who's only fifteen yards behind me, blowing this 556 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: call right in my ear no longer ever had. He's 557 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: not as loud, he's not as thunderous, he's not as guttural. 558 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: And so why why this guy's cranking, you know, fifteen 559 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,479 Speaker 1: yards away? And by time you start to get all 560 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 1: of the sound to bounce off the timber and the 561 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 1: vegetation around you, already by by default sound like a 562 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: small little bowl compared to what's out there. And we've 563 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: we've checked this on satellite bulls, we've called in, we've 564 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: checked this on herd bulls, we've called in. No matter 565 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: how hard you know, how hard you blow on a call, 566 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: no matter how much air you put across it, you're 567 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: just not gonna sound like, you know, like as big 568 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: as a real help Reason number two for those that 569 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: don't know my background, I grew up, you know, on 570 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: at the base of the Willpa Hills, just outside and 571 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 1: we don't have very big bulls here. We have big 572 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: bodied bowls, and we'll say roosevelts, but we we have 573 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: some you know, small horned bowls, probably a younger age class, 574 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: and I would always go in with the intention of 575 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: calling in a herd bull. So I'm in there ripping. 576 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: I'm you know, the biggest, nastiest calls. I've got as 577 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: much rasp as I can throw in. Well, guess what 578 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: when you go to look at my rafters on where 579 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: I keep a lot of my Roosevelt bulls, I'm like, man, 580 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: you think this guy would eventually go after a herd 581 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: bowl every once in a while. Guess what. I killed 582 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of one hundred and fifty one hundred 583 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: and seventy inch Roosevelt bulls. A lot of times there 584 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: are four points, maybe some real small fives, But in 585 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: my attempt to try, I would trust me I was 586 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: trying to kill a herd bull. These dang raghorns will 587 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: come in off the edge of the herd, just like 588 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,239 Speaker 1: they will when you're you know, trying to call in 589 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: some of the biggest Rocky Mountain bulls. It just is 590 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: how it works. And so I killed a lot of 591 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: small bulls by calling big, and it didn't really seem 592 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: to matter. So I'm like, all right, now I've got 593 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: the confidence that my buddies don't sound as loud as I, 594 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: you know, as a real elk, and I'm still able 595 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: to call in these small bulls. Why cranking on bugles 596 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 1: or cranking like, why would I you know, those two 597 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: things out up like, I'm not going to call any 598 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: less than I am now, So I'm I'm always going 599 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: out there cranking. I don't think you can really screw up. 600 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: And I also feel that, you know, at times, you 601 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: know you're going to sound you know, smaller. You may 602 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: not elicit either of these bulls to come in because 603 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: a satellite bowl, you know, may not want to come 604 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: check in a lesser bowl. There are times, though, where 605 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: I will spike squeal a lot, you know. One of 606 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: the tips I had mentioned earlier is don't call your 607 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: way into a bowl. There are times where if it's 608 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: a long long distance and there's been a long time 609 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: in between the last time I heard a bowl bugle, 610 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: I will need to maybe sound check because I don't 611 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: know if they've moved or I wasn't confident that they betted. 612 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: I usually give out like a small bowl kind of 613 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: a mony bugle. It's a little less uh intrusive it's 614 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: a little less aggressive, and so a lot of times 615 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: I will throw that out, you know, as I call in. 616 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: But that's about the only time I try to really 617 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: crank back my calling. Other than that, it's going one 618 00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: hundred and ten percent, you know all the time. Some 619 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: you may laugh and I will, I will allow it. 620 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna talk about physical fitness or lack thereof. 621 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: You know, I'm a guy. For those of you that 622 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: know me, like, I'm a yo yo. Throughout the year, 623 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: you know, hunt season gets here, I'm in great shape. 624 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,479 Speaker 1: The rest of the year, I'm like, I let myself 625 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: go a little bit, but I know my body. I 626 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: know where I need to get to, you know, to 627 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: be ready for September. But one thing I want to 628 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: touch on physical fitness is it will never make you 629 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: a worse hunter, or it will never negatively impact your 630 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: chance for success, if that makes any sense. So yeah, 631 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: you may not need to be in great shape. And 632 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: that's what I always tell people, Like, you can go 633 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: hunt fifteen miles into wilderness and that's great, Like it 634 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: gives you the ability, but hey, I could also go 635 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: kill an olk a half mile off a highway. But 636 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: I want to have the ability to go hunt that 637 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: fifteen miles deep in the wilderness if that gives me 638 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: my best chance for a certain type of bowl, or 639 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: just the best chance of success in general. So you 640 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: have to be able to go where they are, and 641 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: you have to be able to go where they are 642 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: on the last day as well as the first day. 643 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, you maybe in you know, get be able 644 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: to get there on the first day, but are you 645 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: going to get there on the last day. Are you 646 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: going to be able to pack a bowl out from 647 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: somewhere on day three and not need to take two 648 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: days off when your buddy's ready to hunt. You know, 649 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: hunting season isn't the time to get in shape. It 650 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: isn't the time to start to question or let it 651 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: start to question whether you are going to go over 652 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: the next ridge. So so just be in as good 653 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: as shape as possible. It's always going to be to 654 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: your benefit. A lot of people, especially if you're coming 655 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: out from back east, or you've never been to the mountains, 656 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: or you're going to a new unit. I'm always surprised. 657 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because I'm getting older every year, 658 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: but I show up to units that I was you know, 659 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: in ten years ago or new units that I've scouted. 660 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, everything looks bigger, nastier, and deeper than 661 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: I ever remember it. And these these hills is kind 662 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: of my joke, but it's like, man, the hills get 663 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: steeper every year I go back, and it's it's the 664 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: reality of things like Elk cutting is hard. Elk cutting 665 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: in places where elk want to be, and they go 666 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: to escape to live as hard work. Being as good 667 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: as shape as possible. I'm not gonna spend too much 668 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: time on that one, but find whatever works for If 669 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: you're a crossfitter, go CrossFit. If you're a weightlifter, or 670 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: go weightlift. If you're a bike rider, go bike ride. 671 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: Just being as good as shape as possible and be 672 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: you know, be able to go up and chase bowls 673 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: wherever you need to to be successful. Number seven is 674 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: the wind and playing it too perfect. I've I've talked 675 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: about this before a lot of people, especially if you're 676 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: unwilling or uncomfortable, which many should be on taking a 677 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: frontal shot. You know, playing the wind too perfect could 678 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: mess you up if you're not willing to take that shot, 679 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: because if the wind's perfect, right, on my nose the 680 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: whole way I'm calling. In the majority of time, that 681 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: bowl isn't going to be able to go get wind 682 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: on you and is going to come in head on. Happens, 683 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: you know, to the point where he should be able 684 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: to see where that elk is calling to him. If 685 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: we let that wind get a little bit, let's say, 686 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: to our right cheek, we can now predict with pretty 687 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: good certainty that bowl is going to come to our left. 688 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: So I like to go at the wind. You know, 689 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: thirty forty five degrees is plenty. Like you, you can 690 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: give them even more than that, but the chances of 691 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: you not getting a shot before that goes up pretty dressed. 692 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: You know you're going to get a shot typically before 693 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: they can escape you or your wind circle. Now, the 694 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,239 Speaker 1: more wind you give them, the more comfortable they're going 695 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: to be, and they will typically take that circle a 696 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: little bit tighter. So let's say we you know the 697 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: wind's hitting us perfectly in our right ear, that elk 698 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: may come more on a straight line to you, which 699 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: I will sometimes do if I'm hunting solo or calling 700 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: for myself. I may give that bowl ninety degrees of wind. 701 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: You know, I'm still safe. But as soon as he clawed, 702 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: you know, crosses that imaginary line between my right and 703 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: left ear, you know, out if you project out to 704 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: my left, I'm going to need to make sure I 705 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: can you know, get get that uh you know done. 706 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: So give them a little more wind. They'll they'll take 707 00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: a tighter circle that you know, if you give them 708 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: just a little but when they may start their circle 709 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: out a little bit wider. But but give them a 710 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: little bit of wind and typically you're gonna be able 711 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: to steer them into you versus you know, having the 712 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: wind perfect, you're gonna tip. You're gonna have to take 713 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: a frontal shot or that bowl will be more likely 714 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: to come in perfectly straight ahead. Number eight, shooting your 715 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: bow or your muzzleoder and not getting bowl fever and 716 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: being able to make the shot. So you know, we 717 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: all get to shoot out in art. You know, for me, 718 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: it's my driveway or my field, you know, all year long, 719 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: all you know, all summer long. As we're getting ready. 720 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 1: Guess what my heart rate is at a perfect seventy 721 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: two or sixty eight whatever it. I don't even know what, 722 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: but my heart rate is. I don't have sweat rolling 723 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: down my brow, you know, into my eyes. I don't 724 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: have a mosquito, you know, on my neck trying to 725 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: bite me. My heart rate's not one hundred and fourteen 726 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: because I just ran up a mountain to try to 727 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: get this shot. I'm not or my heart rate's not excited, 728 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: you know, elevated because I'm so excited. I did that 729 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: a big giant bulls coming in, you know, or bulls 730 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: ripping bugles off, whatever it may be. The shot that 731 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: I described in my driveway is I'm just shooting at 732 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: a thirty yard target versus the shot that I'm about 733 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 1: ready to take on a real bowl. They're completely different, 734 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: and none of nothing matters. Your tags don't matter, your 735 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 1: preparation doesn't matter. You know, all of your fancy gear 736 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Nothing that you'd have did to get to 737 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: this point matters if you miss this shot as far 738 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: as success is concerned. So I like to shoot enough 739 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 1: throughout the off season or now I'm at a point 740 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: in my life career I've shot bows enough that i 741 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 1: don't have to spend as much time. But I've got 742 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: to a point where I've become almost automatic. Everything's the 743 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: same as it is always. I'm confident in my system, 744 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: but you need to shoot enough where it's almost second nature. 745 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: I honestly don't remember, you know, out of the last 746 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: ten Archie bowls, I've killed like half of them, I 747 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: almost black out and I can't remember anything about that 748 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: shot process. But I did it enough. I'm I do 749 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 1: it enough the same exact way that things are just automatic. 750 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: You know, I shoot a trigger now because I had 751 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: some bad habits with a risk a wrist release. I 752 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, I click it on, I grab it. I 753 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: I get to my anchor, I centerr my pin, all right, 754 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: I center my housing on my on my peep, I 755 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: check my level, I you know, bring my pin up. 756 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: I'm a, i'm a. I bring my pins up typically 757 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: and then I I hover the pin or the area 758 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: I need to and I just slowly start to squeeze. Now, 759 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 1: I don't remember doing that on multiple bowls, and it's 760 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: the only way. I just have to credit that back 761 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: to doing it enough throughout the year that it was 762 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: just automatic. But but yet I've sent my blacked out. 763 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: So it's like I've executed perfectly without really like consciously 764 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: knowing what's going on. And that's where I like to 765 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: be I'm not overthinking it. It's like it's all right, 766 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: it's automatic. I'm not looking at horns. I'm not doing 767 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 1: everything is just it's you know, go up the backside 768 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 1: of the leg, go halfway, move you know, move back 769 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: three inches, you know, start to squeeze so you know, 770 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: for me, and then I kind of talk to myself 771 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: like anchor center and breathe, you know. I I still 772 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: get a little bit excited, especially on certain bowls, and 773 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: so it's just my way of breathing because I'll try 774 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: to hold my breath for a minute during this whole process, 775 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: and the next thing I know is I'm out of 776 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: breath or I'm breathing too hard as this bull gets 777 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 1: into range. The other thing, I want to take the 778 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: time until you're in a lot of these situations, you 779 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: may not know when to draw your bow. I I'm 780 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 1: going to preface us with I'm not responsible for any 781 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: boy you don't get a shot at, but I would 782 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 1: I always err on the side of drawing my boat 783 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: earlier then later. Now you need to be able to 784 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: read how slowly the bull's approaching, what he's looking for, 785 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: is he's stopping, is he gonna continue you to keep 786 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,399 Speaker 1: coming is on a mission like all of that will 787 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: eventually change when I'm gonna draw my bow, but I 788 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: will always draw earlier than later, because you're typically not 789 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: going to get your bow drawn when that bowl is 790 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: close and locked in on you. So that's another thing 791 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: that kind of you know, adds to that shot has 792 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: being able to get your your bow drawn early than 793 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: trying to draw it late. Number nine, setting up and 794 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: then capitalizing when you're in the red zone. So as 795 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: I get to a setup spot, I always look where 796 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 1: are my shooting lanes from where I expect that bowl 797 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,280 Speaker 1: to come in. I want to set up within shooting 798 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: distance of any terrain or vegetation breaks, So I want 799 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: to set up in front of brush or trees if possible, 800 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: to break up your outline. I want to stand if allowed. 801 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: So a lot of times the reason I make the 802 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: decision to go to my knees versus stand is if 803 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: I've got branches that are going to be in my way, 804 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 1: I kind of imagine, you know, vital heights out in 805 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: front me, And there are times where being on your 806 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: knees allows that arrow to be you know, two feet lower. 807 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: For the majority of its flight and just you know, 808 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: less issues there good visibility. Can I swing my bow 809 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: and get shots in most directions where the heavily used 810 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,320 Speaker 1: trails or good open paths my shooting lanes? Where is 811 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: he gonna where? You know, what's that bowl likely gonna take? 812 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: Once I pick my spot and I'm confident my setup, 813 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: then I'll start my calling. But I'm looking at all 814 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: of those things, like, you know, what what is the 815 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 1: wind doing? Is it? Does it got a chance to switch? 816 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: Are we in that late morning you know, nine ten 817 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: o'clock in the mountains where the sun's you know, starting 818 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: to hit or the opposite, you know, you're at five 819 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: or six at night and the ship the shadows are 820 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: starting to get long and kind of filling in your base, 821 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 1: And like, is that wind going to potentially switch at 822 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: anytime during this you know calling. I'm looking at all 823 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: of those things. But the reason I add this to uh, 824 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: these ten mistakes, and sometimes it may be even the 825 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,760 Speaker 1: biggest mistake, is I get to see a lot of videos, 826 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 1: you know, and I always joke with people. A lot 827 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: of times I get shown I'm like, oh man, this 828 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: is a fifteen minute long video at a at a show, 829 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: and I'm kind of like, ah, but I watch a 830 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: fifteen minute video and you know, you get to see 831 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: a ball come in for about ten seconds in the 832 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: middle of it, and then he kind of hangs up 833 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: and leaves. Well, these people, I'm convinced that the majority 834 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: of people or hunters can find ouk, they can call 835 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: out good enough to get him to come to their direction. 836 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm but they aren't thinking their way through the setup. 837 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: And so this is what really wanted, you know. Has 838 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 1: me adding this to my list is because I've seen 839 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: it over and over and over and over. You know, 840 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: guys that maybe haven't killed bulls for five ten years, 841 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,720 Speaker 1: you know where they kill one bowl every ten years. 842 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: They show me these videos enough times and it's like, well, 843 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: you did everything right. Besides, you set up really crappy 844 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: in a crappy spot with with crappy odds, and so 845 00:40:53,560 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: spend more time on your setup. He is going that bowl, 846 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: no matter if it's satellite or whether it's a herd bowl, 847 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: is going to hang up when his eyes can see 848 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: has a straight line site distance to where the elk 849 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: calling to him, which is you or your buddy, whoever's 850 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:27,240 Speaker 1: calling should be So if you're in a thousand yard meadow, 851 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: a giant meadow, and that bowl comes out on the 852 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: opposite side. He's likely not going to walk all the 853 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 1: way across that meadow because he sees where these elks 854 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 1: should be. If there's none elk there, they're going to 855 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,919 Speaker 1: typically go back to whatever they were doing. The same 856 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: thing with one hundred yard meadow in a pocket of timber, like, 857 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: they will cross that, but many times they will not. 858 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: Same thing goes with inside the timber. If it's wide open, 859 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: old growth timber and they can see forever. A lot 860 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 1: of times they're going to get to a spot they're 861 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: going to see, they're going to hang up, and they're 862 00:41:54,960 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: going to go back. So limit the shot distances on setups, 863 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: you know, even if you got to wait a little bit, 864 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 1: whether you got to push the envelope to get a 865 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: little tighter, find a spot that's better to set up 866 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: than than you know, a spot that you know doesn't 867 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 1: have the train breaks or the vegetation breaks. You need 868 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: to get a close archery shot. And number ten, this 869 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: is my last one, and I still think that this 870 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: is more important than anything that I know, anything that 871 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 1: you know about all cunting nothing matters if you don't 872 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: have the time to get out and go hunting. So 873 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: time to hunt. And some people may say, well, I've 874 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: only got a weekend. You know, I've only got weekends. 875 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 1: I've only got one week of vacation. That's fine, but 876 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 1: that week of vacation is going to be way more 877 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: important to your success than than you know, being a 878 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: weekend warrior or not getting any weeks. And this isn't 879 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: meant to you know, say that you need to hunt 880 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: every day, like you know in September, like we get 881 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 1: to or I you know, I've got the privilege to do. 882 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, don't. Don't expect to be successful if 883 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: you've only got a limited amount of time to hunt. 884 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: Always it's no matter what, no matter how good you are. 885 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: I've looked at a lot of hunts, like, man, if 886 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: I only got to hunt this for three or four days, 887 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,880 Speaker 1: I would have struck out. I wouldn't have been successful. 888 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: Hunt as much as you can, but the time, the 889 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 1: amount of time to hunt is typically going to be 890 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 1: like the most correlating factor to your success. Now, some 891 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 1: people will argue like, well I I have an awesome 892 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: piece of private or what, Yeah, there are things that 893 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 1: are going to add more to success. But as far 894 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: as you know our general you know, general hunting or 895 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 1: public land hunting or you know the stuff where you 896 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,240 Speaker 1: don't have a huge advantage that the amount of time 897 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: to hunt is going to be, you know, the biggest 898 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: factor towards finance success. Just because they are elk. You 899 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,959 Speaker 1: can't control what they do. You can't control the wind. 900 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: There are times there are hunts where the wind is 901 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 1: just all over the place, or storm systems are moving 902 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,399 Speaker 1: through and there's nothing you're gonna do to ever kill 903 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: an elk in those situations with the bow. So I'm 904 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: gonna end on on time to you know, spend as 905 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,399 Speaker 1: much time out there. It's it's an awesome experience. I 906 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: love every September. I try to spend as much time 907 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 1: out there as I can. It's kind of my my 908 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: chance from you know, all the hustle of the year's 909 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 1: work and you know, all the call design and going 910 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: to shows. I love being out there in September. Listening 911 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: to bulls bugle just kind of lets me unwind. Is 912 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: kind of my refresher for the year. I feel like 913 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: I come back to work and ready to roll. But 914 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,839 Speaker 1: just go out there and enjoy elk cutting this year. 915 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: Get excited, be willing, be confident, be willing to call. 916 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 1: And I hope you guys, all, guys and gals all 917 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 1: have a great September elk season. But yeah, avoid these 918 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: ten mistakes and I feel like you're gonna have a 919 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,879 Speaker 1: lot better odds at finding success this year. Until next time, 920 00:44:45,200 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 1: thank you for tuning in to cutting the distance, dit 921 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: Mot and a back TI