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Speaker 1: for you. This it's the Pack twelve Apostles, and only

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Speaker 1: the truth lives here. Pack twelve Apostles Apostles. Nick Rolovich

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Speaker 1: is gone. He is no longer than head coaching Washington State.

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Speaker 1: of course we have to recap week seven in the

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Speaker 1: No it's not, it's terrible. And of course our Week

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Speaker 1: All right, Ralph, I guess we have to start with

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Speaker 1: the fact that Nick Rolovich was dismissed, fired as the

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Speaker 1: but I think that. Um. The interesting thing about Nick

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Speaker 1: You painted this as an inevitability from the very beginning,

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Speaker 1: it was clear, it was clear what was going to happen.

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Speaker 1: They were not playing around on this, Dude, that this

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Speaker 1: That means lost television revenue, lost money for the university, tickets,

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Speaker 1: guess what Nick Rolovich did not apply for that he

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Speaker 1: front of him. Oh, well, actually they actually didn't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they moved Michigan State in front and no, but it

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Speaker 1: but it was actually they moved Uh yeah, they moved

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Speaker 1: Michigan State in front at Oklahoma State jumped too, and

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00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,479
Speaker 1: I was like, how does that make sense at this point?

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00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: At this point, the best thing that I'm hoping for

435
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: is a is a twelve and one Oregon and an

436
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: eleven and one Michigan and the Rose Bowl, and we

437
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: could just get our own minds factor it in as

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00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: the primary reason why the playoffs should be expanded. Okay,

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00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: because I just I don't I don't see a path. Dude,

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00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: if it happens, I don't care. You want me to

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00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: shave my head, I'll shave my head. Eat my hat,

442
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: I'll eat my hat. But I'm telling you I'm not

443
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: gonna waste any more time trying to figure out the

444
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: path because the door is closed. I'm cutting my losses

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00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: and saying, all right, let's just focus on which how

446
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: many of these teams can we get Bowl eligible? Is

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00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: the most important thing to me right now. Mm hm

448
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: m m m ye of little faith. Um, all right,

449
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: now onto the game. So we'll start with that Oregon

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00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: Friday night game against cow And this was a game

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00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: that I saw Oregon fans booing, which I hate it, dude.

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00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: It was cringe e they were booing. Anthony Brown had

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Speaker 1: his is probably best best game completing the foot football.

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Speaker 1: He was one touchdown. No um oh, he did have

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00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: a turnover, so he only had his second turnover of

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00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: the whole season. He fumbled the ball right right before halftime,

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00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: like the play right before the end of halftime. Didn't

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00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: cost him any points because it was the play right

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00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: before halftime, and I just thought that and then and

460
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: mind you, he was very frustrating because he does miss

461
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: open wide receivers at times because he doesn't like to

462
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: throw into tight windows. But the frustrating part was it

463
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: was third and thirteen on one play and as soon

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00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: as the ball was snapped, he threw like a four

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00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: yard hitch. He didn't even wait to see what developed.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, what, I don't And it was fourth

467
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: and six and he throws a three yard route and

468
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: it wasn't like a guy was like wide open and

469
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: had room to run. No, he got tackled at three yards.

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00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: And that's increasingly frustrating. And fans want Ty Thompson to play,

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00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: and people are concerned about this Oregon team, but I

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00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: don't think that people fully understand the impact that offense

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Speaker 1: has on defense. The defense held Cow to it was

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00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: ten to seven at halftime ten to seven. Oregon had

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00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: the opportunity to score two more times in in that game,

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Speaker 1: and one of them instead of kicking the field goal

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00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: because they had a couple of penalties. They should have

478
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: been up twenty four to seven at halftime. And if

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00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: you're up twenty four to seven, that forces the deef,

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00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: the the opposing offense, and Cow to sit back and

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00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: throw the ball forty fifty times a game, which if

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00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: you do that, you're gonna come away with some turnovers

483
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: because that's not the optimal way that they want to

484
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: play football. That's puts them not in a comfort zone.

485
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: If you try that with Ohio State, they're gonna be fine.

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00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: You try that with like an air raid offense that

487
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: they're only gonna throw it anyway. But when you forced

488
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: a team that wants to play like that into doing

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00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: that that helps the defense out. And Cavon Thibodeau was

490
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: an absolute savage in this game. He only played the

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00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: second half, but if he played a whole half, he

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00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: played a whole game in one half with the way

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Speaker 1: he destroyed Kal And I didn't like the outcome, but

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00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: there wasn't a point in the game where I was

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00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: nervous that Oregon was not gonna win. If that makes sense,

496
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: where you gritting your teeth on the eighteen yard or

497
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: eight team play drive to end the game? Bro Yes,

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Speaker 1: So it was Friday night. I was doing my show

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Speaker 1: on that on Matt Dog right wild this is going on?

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00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: And how how I got through the day MN show

501
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: while I'm like cringing every single play of that drive,

502
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: I have no idea how how I got through it,

503
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: and I'm and I'm just thankful that I didn't get

504
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: fired or or caused myself an HR issue for anything

505
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: I said on the air while I was watching it.

506
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: That's that lifetime of why chromosome compartmentalization you put you

507
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: put the natural mail gift of of of storing things

508
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: away and burying your feelings to the test. I watched,

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Speaker 1: Uh So I was at a high school football game

510
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: in Arizona. I ended up watching the entire fourth quarter

511
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: at a restaurant. I could not believe that how long

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00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: that drive went on, and how disciplined Oregon was defensively,

513
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: and some of the plays Chase Garber's making, like that

514
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: toss for him in their grasp. Yeah, but Cavon Thibodeau

515
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: like k oing and offensive lineman bye By just like

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00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: running into his head with his upper body. I've never

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00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: seen that. Not once in my life have I ever

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00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: seen a defensive alignment. I've seen him power through, I've

519
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: seen him do everything. I've seen every move in the book.

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00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: I've never seen somebody just hit somebody in the helmet

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Speaker 1: and drop him to get to the quarterback. He is

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00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: he is to me, he's the number one pick, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he is on the level of

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Speaker 1: a Chase Young. Chase Young is one of the best

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00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: defensive lineman, most NFL ready that maybe not the best,

526
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: but the most NFL ready defensive lineman I've ever seen

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Speaker 1: in my life. But he if he's not even with him,

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00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: it's one a one bat like he is. He is

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00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: something else man, and I they don't I don't know

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Speaker 1: if they win that game without the second half that

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00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,719
Speaker 1: he had. Oh dude, I totally agree with that. So

532
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna you You did text me no more Travis died. Hate.

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00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: I don't hate Travis Dy, but I was just using

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00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: the the words that, uh that that you use. Were

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00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: you surprised that Byron Cardwell, you know this is like, oh,

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00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: this is the week we're gonna unleash him. This is

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00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: the least carries he's had in any game he's appeared

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00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: in so far. I was surprised. I was. I thought

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00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: he would get a few more carries. But I'm not

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00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: sure if they're concerned about his past protection or what

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00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: it is. Because Travis Dye and c J. Verdell had

542
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: been sharing carries for a couple of seasons, so I

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00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,959
Speaker 1: thought that they would spell him a little bit. And

544
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: I think that that's going to be the optimal scenario

545
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 1: going forward. I think we will see more of him

546
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,479
Speaker 1: because he's not a big dude, and if you're trying

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00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 1: to run him twenty five times a game, I don't

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00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: think that that it is gonna be good for his

549
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: long term health. But the good news is the good

550
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: news is though, is that I mean because this dude

551
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: had nineteen carries and seven catches for seventy three yards um.

552
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: But at least we got to the twenty completion mark.

553
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: Multiple wide receivers caught balls. This is the way that

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00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: in that aspect of it, that Oregon wants to play

555
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: because and I think that twenty three completions is the

556
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: number that you want to be at all around every

557
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: single game, which will keep your wide receivers happy. You're

558
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 1: seeing a team run seventy nine plays and only score

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00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: seventeen points because holy cow, I don't know. I don't

560
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: even know at this point, I don't even know how

561
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 1: to describe what's wrong with cal So can we say though,

562
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: that that means that the Oregon defense did a good

563
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: job then, because they stopped them on fourth down multiple

564
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: times twice? Yeah they had two? Yeah. No, I think

565
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: it's completely don't really in turnovers or anything. And I

566
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: have a million different criticisms of Oregon in this game,

567
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 1: including why fifth year sophomore Devin Williams isn't good yet

568
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: every time you throw him the ball he does he

569
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: does something something good. You just need to throw him

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00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: the ball more. Yeah, he's got but he's got eight

571
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: Hoole catches this year. So but the four season in

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00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: college football, and I just want I'd like to see

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00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: more from him. Well, you gotta give him opportunities, though,

574
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: and they're not. They're not doing that. So what do

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00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: you think about this cow team? I mean, they're one

576
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: in five. It's a wasted see it's it's it's a

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00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: wasted season. It reminds me very much of Rudy Carpenter's

578
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: senior year at Arizona State, where there was a lot

579
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: of promise. You know, they went to they played Texas

580
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: in that bowl game as junior year, and then all

581
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: of a sudden you had a dip in that talent

582
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: up front, and then you know, and with this Cow team,

583
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: you had their what's earning center medically retired, and then

584
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: you also had Brett Johnson get hit by a car

585
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: and have to miss the whole season. So you take

586
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: the anchor out of their old line and their D line,

587
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: and then they just had a couple of coaching mistakes

588
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: and the lack of a dedication to the run game

589
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 1: in my opinion, that cost them early on. And now

590
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: they just kind of looked dejected. They're giving it their

591
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: mess shot and coming up on the on on the

592
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: rough end every single week. Yep. Absolutely. Um. Now on

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00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: to the next game of the day where well, actually

594
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: that was the only game on Friday, which I hate

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00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: Friday games. We don't have to go over that again,

596
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: but I hate Friday games. Um. The first game up

597
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: that we had on Saturday was the Futility Bowl between

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00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: Arizona and Colorado, and Colorado won thirty four to zero.

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00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Brendon, this was Brendan Lewis is what first

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Speaker 1: game or I think it went for over a hundred

601
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: yards their first game of the season where he threw

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00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: for a hun it in two and then he went

603
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: four straight games without throwing for over a hundred yards

604
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: and then came out this game twenty twelve for nineteen

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00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: for two, which included like a fifty yard or dropped

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00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: in the end zone that was wide open. And on

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00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: the Arizona side, Gunner Cruise who started the game. He's

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00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: out for the season with a thumb injury. They brought

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00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: him Will Plumber. At this point in time, Ralph, I'm

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00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: starting to feel bad for for for jet Fish. He's

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00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: doing everything that he possibly can and he can't. Yeah,

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00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: I don't you and I. You and I actually had

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00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: a couple of extended conversations about that this weekend. I'm like,

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00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: should we feel bad for Jetfish? And I don't. I'm

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00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: looking at how hard he's taking this season, and I wish,

616
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: you know, maybe that's a good thing, the way that

617
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: he's taken his defeats. Maybe it's ultimately a good thing.

618
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: But he I think he genuinely thought that if he

619
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: built up the hype around this team and treated them

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00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: better and invited the media in and built up goodwill

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00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: and came up with a good game plan, that that

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00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: would be enough. And I think maybe that's why I

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00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: feel bad for him, because he thought all those things

624
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: would be enough and at the end of the day, right,

625
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, the cupboard was bare,

626
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: especially in the trenches on both sides of the ball.

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00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: Um I don't. I don't know what to do about that.

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00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: I mean, they have a lot of guys that they

629
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: start on the defensive end that shouldn't be playing. But

630
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: they shouldn't be They shouldn't be playing in back twelve

631
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: and I like that hurts me to say, because you know,

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00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: I don't like to say negative thing about any of

633
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: these these football players. But it was something that I

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00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: said before the season. I thought they'd go to Intend

635
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: just out of a lack of talent, because I never

636
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: would have assumed that they lost to Northern Arizona University.

637
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: But oh my gosh, man, they cannot run the ball.

638
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 1: They they have now this is what their fifth quarterback change,

639
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: either by choice or um through injury. So because they

640
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: started the season with Gunner, Cruise started will Plumber, then

641
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: started Jordan McLeod and now they started Gonna Cruise again,

642
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: and now they're back to will Plumber. Their backup right

643
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: now is Luke Ashford, all walk on from Arcadia High School.

644
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 1: This is it's a bad situation. Man. They got shut

645
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: out in this game. And what do we say, the

646
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: easiest money in the history of the world was taking

647
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 1: them under forty six and a half. Oh my god,

648
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: the under and the and the spread. Yeah, they had

649
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: no chance. They had no chance. I mean, if I

650
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: were Jet Fish at this point, I would literally put

651
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: a running back or a a wide receiver at quarterback.

652
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: J Joiner Jamari Joyner was a very good high school

653
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: quarterback who was being recruited as a quarterback by college

654
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: teams and switched to wide receiver. He's the most athletic

655
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: guy they have on that team. He's the one guy

656
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: that I feel like maybe has some NFL promise and

657
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 1: he's just had to heal from a few foot injuries unfortunately.

658
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: But he came in and he threw a touchdown for

659
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 1: him earlier this year, and so it may it might

660
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: be time to move to the most athletic guy that

661
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: you have and get Jamary some reps if Will Plumber

662
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: and Will Plumbers an athlete, but he's not. He's not

663
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: a quick decision maker with a bunch of experience like McLeod.

664
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: So I don't know, man, I don't honestly. The rest

665
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: of the season, I think that they just need to

666
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: set attainable goals of like getting people reps and seeing

667
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: what they have because it's just not it's just it's

668
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 1: just a very bad team. And I what you had

669
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: in this Colorado versus Arizona team as you had a

670
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: bad add team against an incomplete and young team. Colorado

671
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: is not a bad team. They're just incomplete like that.

672
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: They they're they're kind of a quarterback away, uh, and

673
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: they're very young, and so there was never going to

674
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: be a contest. In my mind, I did not think

675
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: Arizona get shut out. They did take it down to

676
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: the one yard line, and then you know, get get

677
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: stopped on a fourth down. Um. But yeah, six to

678
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: nothing at halftime. This was This game was as ugly

679
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: as anybody could have imagined. And then what Colorado did

680
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: in the third quarter getting you know, a pick six,

681
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: I think right out of the No, they got the

682
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: block punt for a touchdown and then the then the

683
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: pick six back to back. So that was the kill

684
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: shot right there. I mean six nothing, it was six

685
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: It was six nothing. The game was over at six nothing.

686
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: You you had me at hellout? Um. Then the next

687
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: game up was oh and either way. Brandan Rice three

688
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: catches and leven yards and a touchdown. All right, let's

689
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 1: give a shout out to Montana Ammonious Craig. All name,

690
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. So Montania Limonious Craig. I did not

691
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: notice that was that man's whole name. Yeah, he's good.

692
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: He's good to every From what I remember, everybody in

693
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: the pack twelve wanted him, and he took a risk

694
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: by going to Colorado, and uh, he's he finally got

695
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: on the board. He made a contribution. So so maybe

696
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: they're moving in the right direction, or maybe maybe they

697
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: just got to play you a bay. Oh wow, you're

698
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: you're a savage for that, brom. It's the truth. Cal

699
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: Cal is one in five and they are a nine

700
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: point favorite at home against Colorado, So I Vegas already

701
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: agrees that it was probably a fluke. Oh yeah, yeah,

702
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: this this this team did magically get get better, like,

703
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: oh yeah, we figured everything out. Nah, you didn't fail. No,

704
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: you didn't. Everything is not figured out. Um. Then you

705
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: had the Stanford Washington State game, which turned out to

706
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: be Nick Rolovich's final game. Uh, this Stanford team, well,

707
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: actually let's let let's start with the Washington State. Jayden

708
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: Dolora is pretty damn good, and they were up, you know,

709
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: at halftime twenty to sixteen, and then took a twenty

710
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: seven to sixteen lead. I thought it was over. And

711
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: then Stanford took the lead thirty one seven and then

712
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: proceeded to let Washington State drive immediately down and then

713
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: Stanford almost came back and won. This was like, I

714
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: just can't imagine what Stanford is doing because they continue

715
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: to beat their head against the wall trying to run

716
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 1: the football, thirty five carries for seventy six yards two

717
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: point two yards to carry. I don't I don't get it, Ralph,

718
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I told you intellectual brutality was

719
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: completely broken, and I stand by that. You also have

720
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: to factor in that Tanner McKee had a seventeen yard

721
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: scramble at one point, So if you're if you're taking

722
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: out the longest run, it looks even worse because he

723
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: finished with eleven attempts for twelve yards and one of

724
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 1: them was for seventeen. So you know that's that's very bad. Um. Yeah,

725
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: Stanford without a running game is it just doesn't feel right.

726
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: It completely limits them. They're having to ask Tanna Ricke

727
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: to do way too much. Um. But switching gears to

728
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: to Washington State. Is this the best Jaden in the conference?

729
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: I think it might be. If you put Jaden Daniels

730
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: in the Nick Rolovich no r I P. If you

731
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: put Jade Daniels in the Nick Rolovich offense, does he

732
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: currently match the numbers that Jane Delora has fifteen touchdowns

733
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: five interceptions? Uh? Maybe maybe? I mean because he's got

734
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: to throw the ball a lot more so, that's I

735
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 1: think that that would either expose him as a passer

736
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 1: or bring the hype train back. Yeah, he technically didn't

737
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: have a very good completion percentage in this game. Only

738
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: fifty seven percent of his passes were complete. This is,

739
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: you know, a hundred hundred tenure dip on what he

740
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: had the artist. But when it came down to it,

741
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: he made the throwers that counted and and and found

742
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: Calvin Jackson and Travell Harris in the end zone. And

743
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: I just I'm never miss an opportunity to say I

744
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: told you so. But Travilla Harris not being part of

745
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve honors before the season again is the

746
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: dumbest thing about this conference so far. Because he got

747
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 1: forty four catches, four or sixty five yards five touchdowns.

748
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: He is two catches and like eighty yards away from

749
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: from topping his um his career highs at Washington State

750
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: back in nineteen. And he's got five games left at least,

751
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 1: like he's he's he's having a really really good year.

752
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 1: And and uh, it would be nice if people started

753
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: to acknowledging Calvin Jackson's really good as well. Um, I

754
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: just one thing, um, you know, Max BORGI and Dion McIntosh.

755
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: It's really imbalanced what they're doing from week to week.

756
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: But you know, this week Borgie got seventeen carries, which

757
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: is far more than he than than maybe he's ever had. Um,

758
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: So it was kind of nice a change of pace

759
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: to see him getting the ball, get the end zone twice, uh,

760
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: and then continue to be uh. You know, they're as

761
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: an option in the passing game, even though he didn't

762
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: really do anything in this game either. I wonder what

763
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: is on the horizon for this team because they're extremely

764
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: talented and they're not gonna have a lot of offensive

765
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 1: continuity if both the co oc and Rolovich are gone.

766
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm really interested to see what happens

767
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: moving forward as far as play calling and how they

768
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: use some of the weapons they have on this offense. Yeah. Um,

769
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: now we mentioned Stanford's rushing numbers. They are well below

770
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: one hundred yards a game. And we're not talking about

771
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: an air raid offense, like we're talking about an offense.

772
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: Does it like ninety yards rushing per game? Ninety ninety? Like?

773
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: How does this? How does this work? If you are

774
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: if you are Stanford and you're supposed to be you know,

775
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: intellectual brutal brutality, intellectual brutality is overdue. It's broken, it's done,

776
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: it's toast. That's what would have helped them finish some drives.

777
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 1: But they had to kick a field goal from Washington

778
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: State's fourteen with two seconds left in the first quarter.

779
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: How big of it would it have been for them

780
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: to be up seventeen to nothing instead of thirteen to

781
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: nothing because Jade Delora came out and he threw three

782
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: touchdown passes in the next twelve minutes, he went off,

783
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: and then they had to kick another field goal from

784
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:29,919
Speaker 1: the from the Washington State thirteen, So they just can

785
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: they blew two opportunities to build a lead, and then

786
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: they put themselves in a position where they needed a

787
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: you know, Washington State came down, Um got that max

788
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: board and you touchdown, and then they had to come

789
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: back and and and try to win the game or

790
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: get a field goal they weren't able to. Like, it's

791
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: just there. They have no dimensions to their to their offense,

792
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: and it's I don't know, it's it's genuinely depressing because

793
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: they you know, they still what was there over under

794
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: for total wins on the season. You know, they were

795
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: they they could probably I don't know, I can't. Maybe

796
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: with this Washington State game is the only one that

797
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 1: they could have won that they didn't. Yeah, but you know,

798
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: maybe that U c L a game, But I don't know.

799
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: It's just you look at their upcoming schedule and unless

800
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: they can go three and two, they're not going to

801
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: go bowling. And obviously I think that we have to

802
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 1: say that that it's reasonable that they could be beat Washington, right, Yeah,

803
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: and reasonable that they could beat cal so that'll and

804
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: it's reasonable that they could beat what Oregon State. I

805
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 1: don't think they'll beat Utah, and then I don't think

806
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: that they will. And I think that they actually could

807
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: upset Notre Dame only because Notre Dame's offense is not

808
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: particularly great either. Have you seen all these people trying

809
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: to link David Shaw's name to the Raider's job. If

810
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: you were David Show, would you pursue that? Mm hmm

811
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: maybe maybe. I mean it just depends on, like, if

812
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm tired of of dealing with this NFL stuff, then

813
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: maybe I'm sorry this this college stuff. If I don't

814
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: want to deal with school all of that, and if

815
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: my wife is cool with moving too to last Las Vegas,

816
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: her cares are in a good place, then yeah, I

817
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: might try it out. I mean, well, what's the worst

818
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: that could have? I mean, but I mean it's not

819
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: gonna be a big pay increase for him. Well, they're

820
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: the only team that they're the only team that could

821
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: probably give him a pay increase. Yeah, there's nobody else.

822
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he's making like nine million dollars a year.

823
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: He's he's making sec money in um in the pack twelve.

824
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: All right, the next game up we had? Oh uh you,

825
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, very well in in order, would you see

826
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: l A at Washington and Washington fans are incensed right now, dude.

827
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: They want Dylan Morris replaced like there, with the same

828
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: fervor that Oregon fans are with Anthony brown. Oh but okay,

829
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: but I forgot to tell you guys about about the

830
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 1: Anthony Browns situation, because many of you may have seen

831
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: me tweet saying that thy Thompson should be put in.

832
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: I have found out that ty Thompson is physically ready,

833
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: physically ready to be a starter in college football and

834
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: physically the best on Oregon's roster. However, as far as

835
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: mentally and emotionally right now. They don't think he's ready

836
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: and that if he doesn't have success, that they're that

837
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: they're afraid that he will go in the tank and

838
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: it may ruin his entire career. I don't know. I mean,

839
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: I wish Ralph had told me this prior to the

840
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: season or before I said that he should. You are

841
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: you shooting me right now? Did I not repeat this

842
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: a thousand times? No? I don't think you told me that, right.

843
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: I said, he's got the body of the Sean Kaiser,

844
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: but he didn't play at the highest level. He needs

845
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: that adjustment. Here. I said it over and over and over. Here.

846
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: You're driving me nuts because I just I was like,

847
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: what did you just find out? What could it be?

848
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: And then you're just repeating stuff I said for the

849
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: first three weeks of this year's podcast. I don't know

850
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. Oh my gosh, bro, he is physically,

851
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: he's a monster. It's what gave him five stars. That is,

852
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: he definitely can throw, he could do all that. But

853
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 1: like this is he played at the third level down

854
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,919
Speaker 1: of Arizona High school football. It was pretty I think

855
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: he went up against in the championship his junior year

856
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: one defensive back that was a D one athlete went

857
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: to Minnesota. But other than that, just not a there

858
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,720
Speaker 1: weren't a lot of opportunities for him to play against

859
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: that level talent. I know that he did good to

860
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: the legal eleven and he's good in seven on seven

861
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but it's just it that could

862
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: be tough. Then again, that's the same reason I gave

863
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: that Keaton Slovis probably shouldn't have been the guy as

864
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: a freshman, and his best year was arguably his his

865
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: freshman year. So you never really know until you know.

866
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: But if that's what you're hearing, then that is how

867
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: I felt. So yeah, no, they're that They're like, can

868
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: he do every single thing that we need him to do? Yes, one,

869
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 1: But it's the if things don't go well, they're afraid

870
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: he'll go in the tank. So I still think that

871
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: they need to get him two or three series of

872
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: game because then there's no way he goes in the tank.

873
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: And truth be told, as much as Oregon fans don't

874
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: want admit it, Anthony Brown. Aside from the Stanford game,

875
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,439
Speaker 1: which had other factors that ended up with the game

876
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: and overtime he's been clutched in the fourth quarter. Granted

877
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: we should have had way more points prouder to that,

878
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: but in those moments he's been pretty good. Now you're not.

879
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: You've got Anthony Brown in the Manny Wilkins situation, not

880
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: doing anything to out right win the game. But he's

881
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: he's taking care of the ball. Yeah, and you and

882
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: but what you need to level up is you need

883
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 1: somebody who can do things, make plays. Big time players,

884
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: make big time plays. That's what you need. And and

885
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: and we'll see, we'll see there's a there's a lot

886
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: of season left. We'll see if he finds it within

887
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: himself to uh to actually, you know, put a game

888
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: away so that you could get your backup a series

889
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: or two. Yep. And okay, now, Dylan Morris twenty four

890
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: already a buck eight four, one touchdown in two picks

891
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: against the worst pass defense in the conference and the

892
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 1: third worst in the nation. Um, I don't think that's good, Ralph.

893
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: It's very bad. And I think I think having a

894
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: tight end centric offense like Stanford is kind of rough.

895
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: And then obviously all the receivers that left had much

896
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 1: more of an effect than we had predicted. And Terrell

897
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: Binnam hasn't necessarily stepped up to be that number one

898
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: wide receiver um and he takes a lot of risks.

899
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 1: I think he's leading the pack to woman interceptions right now.

900
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: And he is I mean he's I don't it's weird.

901
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: I can't say he's struggling. I think he's just doing him.

902
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: We have now seen him, uh throw three passes, complete

903
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: six of his passes, like, and he's got twelve touchdowns

904
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: and eleven interceptions. I think this is just who he is.

905
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: I think he'll make some big throws. I think he'll

906
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: make some bad decisions, but he doesn't have the ability

907
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: to dink and junk you down the field. He's like

908
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: the anti Anthony Brown. Ye. And then you have to

909
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: deal with the fact that he is smaller and he's

910
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: not a playmaker. So you get a small quarterback who's

911
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: not a playmaker and he likes to take risks but

912
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: doesn't have the personnel to do it. Yep. You know

913
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 1: you know what's crazy is I could but I could

914
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: see him playing for Graham Harrold and actually improving a

915
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: little bit, because you know, if if let's say that

916
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: Dylan Morris was the quarterback at USC this year. You know,

917
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: you have a guy like Drake London that you can

918
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: just throw it up to. Yeah, yep, no, that's very

919
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: very fair. And but Washington has been struggling to run

920
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: the ball as well. Thirty one Kerry eighty three yards

921
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: and a touchdown, and their fans are frustrated because Camari

922
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: Pleasant obviously nine carries eighty yards with a thirty two

923
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: yard long and it's been frustrating for them because Jimmy

924
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: Lake wants to run this style of offense, because he

925
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: said that when he was a defensive coordinator that this

926
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: was the style of offense that gave him the most trouble.

927
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: So but if you can't run it or it's not working,

928
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: I think you have to stop fit trying to fit

929
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: a square peg and around hole and just do something different.

930
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: That's funny. That reminds me of how the Son signed

931
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: JaVale McGee this offseason, and I just like did a

932
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: happy dance because he won't go for ten for ten

933
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: on DeAndre Eton anymore. I don't care if he ever plays,

934
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: just as long as we want have to play against him.

935
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: You know, it's the whole thing. It's overvaluing somebody based

936
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: on what they do to you. What you need to

937
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: do is you need to taylor an offense around the

938
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: people that you have in house. It's obvious that he

939
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: didn't trust the better running backs on his team earlier

940
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: in the season. Now they're the only ones getting carries.

941
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: And obviously Sean McGrew had a really bad game against

942
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: u c l A. They let him run the ball

943
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: eighteen times in his longest run was five yards. But

944
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: Camary Pleasant was able to get some yards, and they

945
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: still thirty pass attempts is too many. Thirty pass attempts

946
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: is too many. The only ran the ball twenty seven times,

947
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: and for the most part, Sean McGrew wasn't being able

948
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: to wasn't able to get any yards. So you know,

949
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: Camary Pleasant had eight for forty eight outside of his

950
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: one long one for for thirty two, giving him nine

951
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: carries for eighty yards. You know, maybe maybe you go

952
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: with the thing that's actually working. But Dylan Morris can't

953
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: give you anything in the run game, and so that's

954
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: a problem. There's not there's They're not like multidimensional as

955
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: far as um. They can't create deceptive looks. They can't

956
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: do R P O stuff because there's there's no threat

957
00:59:58,120 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: of it. So if you want to as a defense,

958
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: you could just key on the running backs and and

959
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: then if you play man coverage on the outside. There's

960
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: no one for Washington that's proven that they're gonna beat you.

961
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: The thing that you have to worry about is Kate

962
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: Doddon and he is not um looked all that great

963
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: this year. He has not had more than three catches

964
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: in his last three games, and he's been banged up

965
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: as well. So you know, I think he has one

966
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: touchdown on the season, and we were expecting him to

967
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: to maybe be a guy that was in the double

968
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: digits on that end, and that's not the case, yep.

969
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: And what do you think on the U c l

970
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: A side, because they ran the ball like we knew

971
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: that they would forty carries to thirty seven and a

972
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 1: touchdown and Dorri and Thompson Robinson was very efficient one

973
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: or twenty six. I didn't even think that U. C

974
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: l A played their best football game like as best

975
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: as they could because they did have a number of

976
01:00:55,600 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: penalties and what did they have They had actually no,

977
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: they only had six penalties for sixty yards and one

978
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: of them was a bogus pass and inference penalty. Like

979
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: I just thought that you say they could have played

980
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: a little bit better, because but Washington does a good

981
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: job of limiting big plays. They haven't given up thirty

982
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: points and like fifty years or something. I mean, it's

983
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: been a long time, but not not that long. But

984
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: part of that is they sacrifice their ability to stop

985
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: the run too by playing two high safeties so often,

986
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: and that has put them in trouble with people teams

987
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: running the football. Like you knew you U c l

988
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: A was gonna do. I think U c l A

989
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: went into Seattle and they ran the offense that Washington

990
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: wishes they could. They have a feature back that they

991
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: could give the ball to twenty one times. He had

992
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: a hundred and thirty one yards average six point to carry.

993
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 1: They have a quarterback who was able to think and

994
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: dunk to a d three yards passing and two touchdowns,

995
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: but also had that other element of his game that

996
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: allowed him to rush for eighty seven yards and a touchdown.

997
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: They do not have a feature wide receiver, but they

998
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 1: were able to spread the ball around and they're tight end.

999
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: Greg Blsage got in the end zone, like U c

1000
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: l A went to Washington and showed Washington what they

1001
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: should have been and that's that's got to be even

1002
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: more frustrating. One. And at the end of the day,

1003
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: Washington having two hundred sixty seven total yards against U

1004
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: c l A. When a s U had like two

1005
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: hundred fifty yards rushing against this team, that's just unacceptable.

1006
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 1: It's but kudos to kudos to U c l A

1007
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: for for tuning things up defensively, UM, and also for

1008
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: not turning the ball over or taking one sack. And

1009
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: and at the end of the day they still only

1010
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 1: one by seven. So I don't know if that that

1011
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: means we should be extra concerned about um whether or

1012
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: not U c l A is gonna continue to rebound

1013
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: and get better. And this was more of just a

1014
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: Washington is terrible on one side of the ball issue,

1015
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: UM or if you know, that's just the way the

1016
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: ball bounces in the pack twelve. But uh, the one

1017
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: thing U c l A really really struggled with in

1018
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: this game is they were three for twelve on third down. Meanwhile,

1019
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: Washington was able to repeatedly extend the clock because they

1020
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 1: were nine of four teens. Yeah. Yeah, this was a

1021
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: game that was pivotal for both teams. I thought that

1022
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: this was the most important game of their season. U C.

1023
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: L A would have fallen to four and three and

1024
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:30,919
Speaker 1: to complete irrelevance in terms of this this season. Now

1025
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: they're one win away from Chip Kelly's first ball game,

1026
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: and Washington failed to two and four instead of going

1027
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: to three and three, which would have meant that they

1028
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 1: would have been in Bowl contention. But now they gotta

1029
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: win four out of their last six games just to

1030
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 1: even get to a bowl game. Dude, four out of

1031
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: their last six games just to get to a bowl game.

1032
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: When like me picked them to win the North, Dude,

1033
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 1: you picked them to go, didn't you? You picked them

1034
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: to go and defeat it, didn't you know? I had

1035
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 1: them losing twice both in conference. I believe I had

1036
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: them losing that losing. I think Oregon was one of

1037
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: the games. Yeah, I did. I thought the rest of

1038
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 1: the schedule was really really friendly to them and the

1039
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: type of offense they thought were gonna play. So with

1040
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: games left against Arizona, Stanford, Oregon, A, s U Colorado

1041
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 1: in Washington State, can they win four of those games? No, no,

1042
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: it's looking like three and three. Yeah, I totally agree

1043
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 1: with that, especially because they're not it's not like they're

1044
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 1: trending up. Yea. And the final game, Arizona State at Utah,

1045
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 1: this looked like a one sided affair going in a

1046
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: halftime it was twenty one two seven. Utah was up

1047
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve South. Arizona State was in great position

1048
01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: to make sure that the Pack twelve championship against again

1049
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 1: was gonna be two top ten teams playing against each other,

1050
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: or at least the top twelve in the top five

1051
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: six team playing against each other in the PAC twelve

1052
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 1: championship winner gets to go to the playoff. And they

1053
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: blew it. They absolutely blew it. So you followed this

1054
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: team very closely. I looked at the game and the

1055
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 1: best player in the game was Cameron Rising. He was outstanding, dude,

1056
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: he was outstanding. And Jayden Daniels was able to in

1057
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: the first half do a lot of running around, extend plays,

1058
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 1: all of that, and then in the second half. I

1059
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: don't I mean in Arizona State have been so good

1060
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:46,439
Speaker 1: in the second half, particularly on defense, but you talk

1061
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 1: made better adjustments. Yeah, I don't know what Arizona State

1062
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 1: was doing in this game. To be honest, They're running

1063
01:05:53,920 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: backs had twenty carries. Twenty carries total. That's far too

1064
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 1: few carries for eighteen yards, George. They were having a

1065
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: lot of success on the ground with their three running backs.

1066
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: They should have played Daniel not a more, Um, but

1067
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: like they they couldn't. They kept putting themselves in positions

1068
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 1: with penalties and stuff where it didn't make sense to

1069
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: run on first down, and then everything fell apart. The

1070
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 1: and the overall just the way the team looked was

1071
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 1: probably the most telling thing, because when this game was

1072
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 1: it felt like it was yes, like the whole demeanor

1073
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: of the A s U sideline changed. I've never seen

1074
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: Antonio Pierce look anything other than like stoic and defiant.

1075
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: They kept putting the camera on him. He looked like

1076
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: whiny and frustrated, like he couldn't get through to people

1077
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. It is very very confusing, Um

1078
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:00,080
Speaker 1: that they'd fall apart like that. The one thing that

1079
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: they struggled with this year so far was crowd noise

1080
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 1: and penalties and lo and behold, thirteen penalties for over

1081
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: a hundred yards and oh don't you remember when you

1082
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: pointed that out during the B y U game and

1083
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 1: you were like, George, they'll they'll never have this many penalties. Again,

1084
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:24,479
Speaker 1: well they technically had two less, but but but same

1085
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: concept though, right, Yeah, And and then think about how

1086
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 1: dejecting it is for combined third and fourth down efficiency

1087
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 1: on Utah's and they went eight for twelve, Like every

1088
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: time you feel like you had them stopped, they had

1089
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: something with their sleeves. And like you said, a big

1090
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 1: part of that was Cam Rising was electric. He really was.

1091
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 1: You got you really have to respect his performance. I

1092
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: know he turned the ball over a couple of times,

1093
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: but I don't care the way he was running the ball,

1094
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 1: knowing that this is a guy that's like blown out

1095
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: both knees. He did not look like somebody who's who,

1096
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 1: who's playing it safe or anything like that. He was

1097
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 1: He was a leader. He was fired up. You can

1098
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: see why his teammates like him. And another thing that

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01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: that that uh kind of stands out to me, is

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01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 1: this the second game in a row where utass going

1101
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 1: on nothing run. They did the same thing against USC

1102
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 1: in what was a close game, and then all of

1103
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: a sudden they just gave that tech in forty hit combo.

1104
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, bro absolutely, um. All right, so yeah, this

1105
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 1: was well. I I want to talk super quickly but

1106
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 1: before we get into the power rankings about what Arizona

1107
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 1: State fans are feeling because I was looking at the

1108
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 1: message boards. It is a toxic place there now considering

1109
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 1: that they were five and one going into the game,

1110
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: and yeah, this felt unexpected. I didn't know that there

1111
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: was this much toxicity. They're like, well, just a fire fire, herm, herm,

1112
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,520
Speaker 1: Now let's look for our new head coach. Blah blah blah.

1113
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 1: I mean even though that we know that that's coming

1114
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 1: after the season, but it seemed like a give up moment. Yeah,

1115
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 1: because they could tolerate. They know that this is like

1116
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: the a suicide mission, right, but like, is it worth

1117
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 1: the suicide mission if the mission is not accomplished and

1118
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 1: you still die? So that you know, they understand the

1119
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: good that Herm Edwards has done for this um, for

1120
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 1: this team. But at the same time, if they know

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01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,719
Speaker 1: they're gonna have sanctions, they know the staff is gonna

1122
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: get cleaned out, and they know that they're struggling with

1123
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 1: discipline issues on the field, which was Todd Graham's forte

1124
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: and when you compare the first thirty seven games of

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01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 1: Todd Graham's tenure the first thirty seven games of HERM Edwards,

1126
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 1: the results are clearly more in favor of Todd Graham.

1127
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 1: So when faced with all this evidence, and I know

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01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 1: we kind of live in an heroin, it doesn't matter

1129
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,879
Speaker 1: the amount of evidence that you pile up to support

1130
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 1: one side of an argument that if people are convinced

1131
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: of something, they'll just stay convinced. Not in this case.

1132
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: Not in this case. There's we're getting to the point

1133
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 1: where there's so much evidence that this team isn't necessarily

1134
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 1: always as well prepared or as well as as disciplined

1135
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: as they need to be, that they're sacrificing relationships within

1136
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 1: the state of Arizona. They got the n C double

1137
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,679
Speaker 1: A breathing down their back. There's just a million different

1138
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 1: things that kind of show that that a s U

1139
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: is in deep trouble and the fans are responding to that. Yeah,

1140
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 1: now that makes a lot of sense. Um And on

1141
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,639
Speaker 1: the recruiting front though, on on a side note, before

1142
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: we get into the power pack t well of power rankings.

1143
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw, but Eli Manning.

1144
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 1: I know that this is completely off topic, but this

1145
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 1: is a recruiting we because we talk a lot of

1146
01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: recruiting on here as well, and this is something it

1147
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 1: just matters more Lane kiffing goofy stuff. But I'm not

1148
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:10,719
Speaker 1: mad at it. So they are retiring Eli Manning's number,

1149
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 1: putting them in the Ring of Fame and all of

1150
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 1: this stuff, put him in the Hall of Fame at

1151
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:19,839
Speaker 1: Old Miss. It just so happens to be Arc Manning

1152
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 1: is visiting that weekend too, and they painted Manning in

1153
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 1: the end zones Ralph Okay. So so we're like we

1154
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 1: were saying that the pactol doesn't go far enough and

1155
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 1: recruiting boom, Yes, yes, you gotta go to the edge. Bro.

1156
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 1: I mean, well, actually I would actually hate of Oregon

1157
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 1: did that, only because only because it feels a little

1158
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 1: goofy and kind of But if you're Lane kiff it, like, like,

1159
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 1: I think that Arizona State should do stuff like that.

1160
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 1: I don't think the US should. But if Oregon did

1161
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 1: it for j T to him allow and he went

1162
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 1: to Oregon instead of the Ohio State, what would you

1163
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 1: think I would? I wouldn't want them to have to

1164
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,799
Speaker 1: do it again. Yes, like that. But that's the problem

1165
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 1: with this. If you do this once, you have to

1166
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 1: do it again because you've set the bar so damn

1167
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 1: high and it has to be like a legacy person.

1168
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 1: And I know that they're gonna be like, Yo, this

1169
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: is for Eli Manning. Duh. I mean, but Nick Saban

1170
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 1: would never do that. And yes, I agree that you

1171
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 1: gotta do what you gotta do to get recruits, but

1172
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 1: they're not gonna get him anyway. Didn't didn't Nick Saban

1173
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 1: just go on the Manning cast and say he would

1174
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 1: love to coach a Manning someday? Yes he did, he did.

1175
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe maybe maybe it's just things are

1176
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 1: are getting goofy or out that way and more fun.

1177
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 1: And I don't know. I just know that there's a

1178
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 1: lot of guys that leave California, a lot of guys

1179
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 1: that leave Arizona, a lot of guys that leave Oregon

1180
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: in Washington to go to teams that are outside of

1181
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve conference. And you know, I remember thinking

1182
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 1: back to when a s U was in a battle

1183
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 1: over Christian Kirk with Texas A and M, and Christian

1184
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:19,759
Speaker 1: Kirk was playing in the state championship in Sun Devil

1185
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 1: Stadium and nobody from a s U as far as

1186
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: like stans or student section or anything like that, came

1187
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: to the game. Imagine what it would have meant to

1188
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk to have a f U stands filled with

1189
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: a s U fans all cheering for him. But there's

1190
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 1: just not that much of a culture of Like you said,

1191
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: it just doesn't matter as much. People learn as invested,

1192
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 1: they're not as educated, they don't understand what they mean

1193
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: to the process. Yep. Absolutely. Um, Now onto the pack

1194
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 1: twelve power rankings because this is an absolute zoo and

1195
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 1: we'll give our seven to twelve eat and then we

1196
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 1: will move on and then we will go six to one.

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01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 1: So Ralph, what is your twelve to seven for this week?

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01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 1: All right? And yeah, so I'm gonna give you my

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Speaker 1: my twelve. But I also just as a reminder in

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01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:15,919
Speaker 1: case you started listening in the middle of the podcast,

1201
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 1: which this isn't a radio show, so I don't know

1202
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: why you would do that if you are incredibly frustrated

1203
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 1: with the sound. From my end in this podcast, I'm

1204
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 1: at the Denver International Airport. All they're doing is just

1205
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 1: reading announcements. I found the quietest place in the whole place.

1206
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 1: So if you're getting more educated on flights out of

1207
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 1: Denver than you are on the back twelve, I definitely apologize,

1208
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: But with Nikolovitch being fired, we wanted to make sure

1209
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 1: that we got this podcast. Have to you guys totally understand.

1210
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:46,719
Speaker 1: If it's annoying, Uh blame George. Alright, So my twelve

1211
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: through seven this week Arizona Colorado. Nothing changed there. It

1212
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what Colorado did the Arizona. Then I got

1213
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 1: Cal and Washington at ten and nine, USC at eight,

1214
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 1: and Stanford at seven, and that still feels too high,

1215
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 1: all right? I have Arizona at twelve, Colorado at eleven.

1216
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 1: I don't care that Colorado one because they only beat Arizona,

1217
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 1: and that's that doesn't count. Um Cal is at twelve,

1218
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:28,600
Speaker 1: Washington is at nine, um USC at eight, and Stanford

1219
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: at seven. So we agree there, all right? And then

1220
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:47,719
Speaker 1: what's your six to one? What's your six to one? Ralph?

1221
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:49,600
Speaker 1: That's my bad man. I was on mute, so you

1222
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 1: guys didn't have to hear all the announcements. UM number

1223
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 1: six is Oregon state. Number five is Washington State. I

1224
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 1: feel like Oregon State should be higher, but they do

1225
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,719
Speaker 1: have that loss to Washington State, so I gotta factor

1226
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 1: that in U c l A is at number four. UM,

1227
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: I only dropped Arizona State one. UM, this is the

1228
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 1: most depressing three ever. And remember Ray Anderson when he

1229
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 1: hired HERM Edwards, he said he wanted a SU to

1230
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,640
Speaker 1: be top three in the conference, in top fifteen in

1231
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 1: the country year over year. So they're finding a funny

1232
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 1: way to accomplish it, but they're still in that top three.

1233
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 1: Then I have Utah and at number one, I have

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01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 1: Oregon yep. UM, I have Washington State at six, Oregon

1235
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 1: State at five, a s U at four, Utah at

1236
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 1: three because they're hot as fish grease and they beat

1237
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 1: How did you never mind? You didn't I apologize? You

1238
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 1: can't yell at me when you just put Oregon State

1239
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 1: above Washington State, who is on a three game win

1240
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 1: streak that includes beating Oregon State their head coach situation,

1241
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know what to make of it.

1242
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 1: So so there's that um U c l A at

1243
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 1: two an Oregon at one. UM, it's funny. I was

1244
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 1: listening to some of the other Pack twelth podcasts and

1245
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 1: at one point in time, they had U c. L

1246
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 1: A is the best team in the conference. At one

1247
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 1: point in time, they had Arizona State is the best

1248
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 1: team in the conference. And some of these people cover

1249
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 1: cover other teams, and I was like specifically for their

1250
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 1: actual you know, like writing and stuff. And I was like,

1251
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 1: that's a little sketchy. I think you're bias is showing.

1252
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 1: But um, now on to the Week eight matchups. Well

1253
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 1: that you you certainly can't be talking about twelve pack

1254
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 1: radio because those guys both went to University of Arizona.

1255
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 1: They're as honest as you can possibly be about that situation. Dude, dude, dude, Arizona.

1256
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 1: Maybe all right, Ralph, I asked this question on Twitter,

1257
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 1: right and you can tell me and Arizona people hit

1258
01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 1: me in the d M s that were like, George,

1259
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 1: I'm mad at you for asking this this question. I

1260
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 1: was like, well, you should be mad that this is

1261
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 1: even a question. So, Ralph, who is the worst football

1262
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 1: team in America? Is it Vanderbilt, is it Kansas, is

1263
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 1: it Yukon or is it Arizona. It's Yukon. It's Yukon.

1264
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 1: But but that's not an unfair question, and that's what's said. Yeah.

1265
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:30,640
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, how can you be

1266
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 1: mad at me for asking this question? It's totally reasonable,

1267
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 1: totally reasonable. I think that I think Arizona would beat

1268
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 1: Yukon and you mask and New Mexico State? Maybe? Are

1269
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: you sure? Though? No? No? Did I sound sure? No?

1270
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 1: Because New Mexico State has actually won a game. They

1271
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 1: beat South Carolina State, which is I know it's not

1272
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 1: a Division One team, but still they did win. And

1273
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 1: you had Arizona lose to Northern Arizona, and you've had

1274
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 1: you Mass won a game too, they beat Yukon. OK.

1275
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 1: So I don't know if Arizona could could beat you Mass.

1276
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 1: Should we do like a college football toilet playoff with

1277
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 1: you mask, Yukon, uh, Arizona and Kansas? How about that

1278
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 1: Arizona and Kansas being at the bottom of that but

1279
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 1: usually at the top of basketball. That's too funny. I

1280
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 1: guess you could throw Yukon in there. Too. Is good

1281
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 1: basketball bad for football? Wait? Is what is a good

1282
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 1: basketball program bad for football? Uh? No? I mean U

1283
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 1: c l A is doing good in basketball there. They

1284
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 1: came into season ranked number two. This year, Oregon is

1285
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 1: ranked in the top fifteen in the a pe pole two.

1286
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, but like, look at Gonzaga their number

1287
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 1: one going into the season, and they haven't won a

1288
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:10,600
Speaker 1: football game in forever because they don't have a football team.

1289
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 1: All right, So onto the games this week, and the

1290
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 1: first game this week is on another Friday night, So

1291
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 1: this is a quick turnaround for Washington and Arizona. Um,

1292
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 1: Washington is favored by seventeen and a half points at Arizona,

1293
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 1: so they gotta go to the Desert ralph Who do

1294
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 1: you have in this game? Oh? Oh? And the over

1295
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 1: under forty five and a half. I'm taking the under.

1296
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 1: I'll take the under in every Arizona game ever. Um,

1297
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 1: but I'm actually gonna take Arizona against the spread. I

1298
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 1: think the quick turnaround and the fact that Washington only

1299
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 1: scored seventeen last week at home means that they would

1300
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 1: have to score more than that in order to cover.

1301
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 1: So so I think that I think we might have

1302
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 1: like a four to seven game, and that, uh, that

1303
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,839
Speaker 1: is advantage Arizona in a seventeen and a half point spread.

1304
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 1: Did you see what I mean? Like, did you miss

1305
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 1: what Colorado did to Arizona? No, but Arizona scored two

1306
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 1: of those touch flows and you don't think and Washington's

1307
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 1: defense is better than Colorado's, is it? Oh god, well, listen,

1308
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 1: give me Washington and the uh they will they will

1309
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 1: cover this seventeen and a half points. Bro, it's not

1310
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 1: even a question. But I do take the under. This

1311
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 1: game will probably be like thirty four to three or

1312
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 1: thirty four to six. Oh God, that's terrible. I can't wait. Yeah, dude,

1313
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 1: I can't. I believe you pick this. Um. The next

1314
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:01,640
Speaker 1: game up, the biggest game in the back twelve this

1315
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 1: entire season so far, Oregon at U c l A

1316
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 1: at the Rose Bowl. I'll be in attendance. Oregon started

1317
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,679
Speaker 1: out this game as a three and a half point favorite,

1318
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 1: and now they are a two point dog. And the

1319
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 1: over under in this game is forty Sorry it's fifty nine. So, uh,

1320
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 1: who do you have in this one? So that's gonna

1321
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 1: mean like all the money on Earth is on U

1322
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 1: c l A. That's that's wild. I don't see much

1323
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 1: of a reason for that to be the case. Um.

1324
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 1: And also considering U. C l A has played better

1325
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 1: on the road than they have at home. Their two

1326
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 1: losses came at home. Um, I'm gonna take Oregon. I

1327
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 1: I hope this is a good game. I'm really excited

1328
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 1: about it. Um, you have to give U c l

1329
01:22:56,479 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 1: A the advantage at running back and quarterback. They're probably

1330
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 1: a wash on the old line, but defensively, Oregan is

1331
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 1: a much better team. And uh yeah, So what will

1332
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 1: be interesting is I think if Oregon wins this game,

1333
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 1: it might put U. C l A in a position

1334
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 1: too to have almost zero chance to meet them in

1335
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 1: the FACT twelve Championships. Yep, yeah, ohh yeah, dude, they

1336
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:33,520
Speaker 1: this would be a in the standings. Just so everybody

1337
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 1: is clear and understands what's happening in the Pact twelve

1338
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:42,640
Speaker 1: standings right now. In the South, Utah is three and

1339
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 1: oh Arizona State is three and one, and they hold

1340
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 1: a tiebreaker over U c l A. Who's uh second,

1341
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 1: but they're really third because Arizona State holds the tiebreaker.

1342
01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 1: USC is that two and three in the conference, so

1343
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:08,799
Speaker 1: they are completely toast. Dude, they are toasted in the conference. Um,

1344
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 1: Colorado is one and never. I'm not even even gonna

1345
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 1: mentioned Colorado in Arizona because that's absolutely pointless. But um,

1346
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 1: you have yeah, so you see a USC is technically

1347
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 1: still alive, but not though, Um U c l A

1348
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 1: still has life even if they lose, because they would

1349
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 1: need because Arizona State still has Washington State USC, Washington

1350
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 1: Oregon State, and we're never gonna count the Arizona game.

1351
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude, if they got beat seventies seven

1352
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 1: to seven last year, how bad are they gonna get

1353
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 1: beat this year? Oh? Yeah? Um, all right, especially if

1354
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 1: it ends up being the last hurrah for them and

1355
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 1: all of them. Yeah, I mean you pedal metal. Yeah,

1356
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 1: so check this out. Oregon can lose and and be

1357
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 1: in a good position still, but the Oregon could lose

1358
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 1: because then all they'd have to do is win out

1359
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 1: and including beating Oregon State, and they'd still win the

1360
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 1: Patrol North. Correct, So the risk is almost all on

1361
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:27,520
Speaker 1: u c l A's end right now. Yes, yes, um, absolutely,

1362
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:34,560
Speaker 1: um okay, So I am a believer that this is

1363
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 1: a style smake fights game. Is that Oregon who's had

1364
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 1: trouble pushing the ball down the field and all of that,

1365
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to throw the football because this is

1366
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 1: a terrible past defense, third worst in the nation. And yes,

1367
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 1: running the ball is very important and U c l

1368
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 1: A hasn't done great against the run either, So if

1369
01:25:57,240 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 1: I am, I mean, like, man, I'm picking Oregon in

1370
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 1: this game. They have the top scoring offense in the

1371
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 1: they have the top scoring offense in the country. They

1372
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 1: have I'm well not not in the country, and the

1373
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 1: pack twelve, but I apologize they are. In terms of

1374
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 1: total defense, let me pull up their total u u

1375
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 1: c l A has the best rushing defense in the

1376
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 1: conference right now, and while Oregon is one of the

1377
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 1: best rushing offenses in the conference. So this is gonna

1378
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 1: be a very interesting matchup. So yeah, if they can

1379
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 1: pass the ball well, then they'll be Okay. I like

1380
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 1: Oregon um to win this game, and it's mainly just

1381
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 1: because the Rose Bowl has meant absolutely nothing to u

1382
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 1: c l A so far this year, and um, I

1383
01:26:56,520 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 1: really like the Noah sewel again, um Zack Sherman A

1384
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 1: matchup is maybe the matchup I've been looking forward to

1385
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:08,680
Speaker 1: the most all year because if if if Oregon can

1386
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 1: hold Sherman under a hundred yards, I think this is

1387
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 1: a seven to ten point win. So I'm on Oregon. Yeah, okay,

1388
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 1: all right, the next and are you taking the over

1389
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 1: under in this game? It's fifty nine. I'm taking the over.

1390
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 1: I will take the under. So I've had a lot

1391
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 1: more successful unders than anything else this year. All Right,

1392
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:37,679
Speaker 1: USC at Notre Dame, Notre Dame's favorite by seven points,

1393
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 1: and the over unders fifty eight and a half. Give

1394
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 1: me Notre Dame. Even though I want USC to win

1395
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 1: because I'm a back to pack guy, I just don't

1396
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 1: want to set myself up for the letdown that is

1397
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:53,599
Speaker 1: potentially coming. But they may get Jackson Dart starting though

1398
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 1: I like USC in this game to cover. I don't

1399
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 1: know about when um, but you saw what happened with

1400
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 1: Notre Dame at Florida State. A couple of good athletes

1401
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:10,640
Speaker 1: can make all the difference, especially on me on the outside.

1402
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 1: And so you know this is gonna be Drake Jackson's

1403
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:16,839
Speaker 1: opportunity to to be more than just a stat stuffer

1404
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 1: for people who follow the Pack twelve, but to do

1405
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 1: it on a on a national level and probably for

1406
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:25,679
Speaker 1: the last time in a in a Trojans uniform, because

1407
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 1: you know, if they make a bowl, it's gonna be

1408
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 1: Sun Bowl or something like that. So this is gonna

1409
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 1: be a huge game for for Drake Jackson. I think

1410
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 1: he shows out I don't think it matters who you

1411
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 1: have at quarterback. I think the athletes on the outside

1412
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 1: give Notre Dame fits and the quick passing game gives

1413
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 1: Notre Name fits. But at the end of the day,

1414
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,680
Speaker 1: I don't think this USC defense can stop anyone. So

1415
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 1: I got a high scoring game, but I do have

1416
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 1: USC covering the seven. Yeah, yeah, totally agree with that.

1417
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 1: Um I am well, actually, no, no, no, I I

1418
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 1: don't with them not covering. But but because I have

1419
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 1: Notre Dame minus, you agree with USC not being able

1420
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:09,680
Speaker 1: to stop anyone. Yes, yes, I do agree with that

1421
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 1: and the over fifty eight and a half. But the

1422
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 1: issue is that Notre Dame has had quarterback issues. They've

1423
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 1: been going back and forth. So I think that this

1424
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:23,720
Speaker 1: could be a more hotly contestant matchup. And it's not

1425
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 1: lost on me that USC could pull the upset. Man.

1426
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 1: I just don't trust him fully. Oh god, alright, Well,

1427
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 1: I want to pick USC, but I can't if you're

1428
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 1: having quarterback issues. That's the perfect team to go up against,

1429
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 1: is USC. Remember everybody's talking about Chance Nolan being a star. Yeah, yeah,

1430
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 1: it's it's this USC defense and the way that it's called.

1431
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 1: I still have talent. But this USC defense and the

1432
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 1: way that it's called is uh lending itself to other

1433
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 1: people getting real healthy and stum. So you know, I

1434
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm thinking. I'm thinking thirty five Notre Dame.

1435
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 1: All right, alrighty then, Um, the next game up, we

1436
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 1: have Colorado at cal Cal is favored by nine points

1437
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 1: over under is forty three. That is the most disrespectful. Dude.

1438
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 1: That means that both offenses are putrid, that they think

1439
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:36,560
Speaker 1: that that this is gonna be like a twenty to

1440
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 1: twenty one game. Um, and I think that Cow scores,

1441
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 1: this game could be thirty to thirteen. Um, I'm gonna go.

1442
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the under and I'm gonna take Cow

1443
01:30:53,240 --> 01:31:02,719
Speaker 1: minus nine. I'm gonna go with Colorado. Um, I'm gonna

1444
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 1: go with Colorado. And then just because the the UH

1445
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 1: total is so disrespectful, not that I believe they'll hit it,

1446
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:12,800
Speaker 1: In fact, I believe they will not. Um, but I can't.

1447
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 1: I can't let the Pack twelve be disrespect because like

1448
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 1: this low forty over unders in the middle of the season.

1449
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 1: So I'm taking the over out of principle. Yeah, dude,

1450
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:29,639
Speaker 1: that these are sec ten years ago lines bro over

1451
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:32,719
Speaker 1: unders All right, next game up, dude. The Pack twelve

1452
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 1: has two twelve thirty games which are in No. Three

1453
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 1: twelve thirty games and to four thirty games. There are

1454
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,479
Speaker 1: no late games this week. There is no Pack twelve

1455
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 1: after dark f y Oh my gosh, I'm actually gonna

1456
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 1: wake up in time for church on Sunday. So B

1457
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:55,639
Speaker 1: y U and Washington State, this game is in the police. Uh.

1458
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 1: They are by US favored by four points over Under

1459
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 1: fifty five and a half. Give me b y U

1460
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 1: and give me the over. Teams either fully buy in

1461
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 1: and rally and have a surge after some crazy stuff

1462
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:18,680
Speaker 1: happens to him, or they fall apart. And I am

1463
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 1: thinking that fall apart is probably the most likely answer.

1464
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 1: But if they fall apart, won't more people just be like, Oh,

1465
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 1: we never should have fired Nikolovich. Isn't that Like? The

1466
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:30,599
Speaker 1: most messy thing for the conference would be a Washington

1467
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 1: State just got caught up. I mean, it's not just

1468
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 1: their head coach though, it's the co oc as well,

1469
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:43,240
Speaker 1: and I think Rollovich calls plays so offensively it could

1470
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:46,880
Speaker 1: definitely be an issue. Um B y U is on

1471
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 1: two game losing streak. They've kind of had to play

1472
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 1: all over the place. Um, they're banged up, they're not deep.

1473
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:55,760
Speaker 1: I never thought they were all that talented in the

1474
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 1: first place. They could win this game, but by full

1475
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 1: war or more, I don't know about that. Um. I

1476
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 1: will take Washington State plus four. Mm hmmm. I don't

1477
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 1: feel super confident of about mine, but I guess I

1478
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:14,639
Speaker 1: should because I'm better than you at these picks this year.

1479
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 1: I made a point this year that I was gonna

1480
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:19,719
Speaker 1: come in. I was going to dominate you in these picks,

1481
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:22,400
Speaker 1: and it's going well so far. You have a six

1482
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:24,679
Speaker 1: game lead on me in the in the picking against

1483
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:27,680
Speaker 1: the spread, and then I have one game on you

1484
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 1: and the over unders, which reminds me I will take

1485
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:35,559
Speaker 1: um under fifty five and a half in that game,

1486
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 1: and I in that game will take the under a No, no,

1487
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm taking the over a fifty five and a half. Alright,

1488
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 1: last game up you taught at Oregon State. Oregon State

1489
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 1: had an entire week off to fix Chance Nolan and

1490
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:57,160
Speaker 1: this get and Utah is playing really good football, just

1491
01:33:57,200 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 1: came off a really good win over Arizona State, and

1492
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the difference between Remember when when

1493
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 1: we had the Tyrone Whittingham interview here on the Pack

1494
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:17,719
Speaker 1: twelve Apostles and we were like, yeah, oh my gosh,

1495
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:21,320
Speaker 1: I did it again. I did it again. Guy's a

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01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:23,759
Speaker 1: black guy when guy's a white guy. Once in Utah.

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01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 1: The other one was at Stanford Air Washington. Good Kyle

1498
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:31,799
Speaker 1: Whittingham when we had the Kyle Whittingham interview on and guys,

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01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna edit this out. You guys getting an

1500
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:37,920
Speaker 1: authentic podcast, so appreciate if you could just get the

1501
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 1: call Tyrone music in the background. Um you Okay. So

1502
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:47,839
Speaker 1: when we had him on, like he was very bullish

1503
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 1: on on his team, and we were like, why why

1504
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:54,639
Speaker 1: does he seem so bullish on this football team? And

1505
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:58,000
Speaker 1: if they go five and two, he had reason too.

1506
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 1: But if they lose this, he was absolutely wrong and

1507
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 1: that he had reason too. He was talking about a

1508
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:13,519
Speaker 1: completely different quarterback started somebody else. Yeah, and then you

1509
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:19,400
Speaker 1: find out that, oh and then Oregon State, if they

1510
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 1: go to five and two, boy, oh boy, that's gonna

1511
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:24,680
Speaker 1: be a whole another can of can of worms, you

1512
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:27,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And this could be the game

1513
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:32,599
Speaker 1: that ends up propelling Jonathan Smith to be USC's new

1514
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:37,880
Speaker 1: head coach or this is the game that kind of

1515
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:40,760
Speaker 1: almost slams the door shut on the Pack twelveth South.

1516
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:44,920
Speaker 1: So and if Oregon State wins this game, U c

1517
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:47,200
Speaker 1: l A has got a shot at the Pack twelve South,

1518
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 1: a real shot then. So this is a game that

1519
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:53,719
Speaker 1: has a lot of meaning. And if Oregon State loses

1520
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 1: this game, they're pretty much out of the Pack twelve North. Yeah,

1521
01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 1: because you'd have to have Oregon loose twice with one

1522
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 1: of those games being against Oregon State. The odds aren't great. Um,

1523
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:11,760
Speaker 1: the North is just so rough this year that that

1524
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:17,719
Speaker 1: you know, Oregon Oregon might have a disappointing year while

1525
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 1: being eleven and one heading into the back twelve Championship.

1526
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 1: And that's wild. I just know that Arizona State fans

1527
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 1: become temporary Oregon State fans um this weekend. And then

1528
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 1: you know, uh, with with Utah, it's just like that

1529
01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:37,599
Speaker 1: they could pull away. They could have a commanding lead

1530
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:40,600
Speaker 1: in the PAC twelve South and still have kind of

1531
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 1: a lot of questions about you know who who they

1532
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:46,519
Speaker 1: who they are as a team, because yeah, Devin Lloyd

1533
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:51,280
Speaker 1: is very good, um, and they running back by committee

1534
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:53,599
Speaker 1: thing is working and camp Rising has had some flashes,

1535
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 1: but overall this team is running hot and cold during games.

1536
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:01,559
Speaker 1: They're having huge lulls during games and then really heating up.

1537
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:04,400
Speaker 1: What did you think of Kyle Whittingham getting on Twitter

1538
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 1: because you don't seem like a Twitter guy and just

1539
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:12,840
Speaker 1: typing twenty unanswered and hitting sent. I didn't see him

1540
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 1: do that. He did. He did a little bit of

1541
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:18,160
Speaker 1: flavor from from and he was pumping his fist. He

1542
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:21,400
Speaker 1: was way more emotional. Wait, and obviously there's plenty of

1543
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 1: reason to be as far as off the field stuff

1544
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 1: that's going on, but he was very emotional in that

1545
01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 1: win over over Arizona State. Um. I don't know, he's

1546
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 1: starting to see a lot of personality at him. Not

1547
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 1: that he was super stoic like Belichick or anything, but

1548
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:36,920
Speaker 1: he I don't know if it's he's softening up or

1549
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:39,640
Speaker 1: getting more excited, or you know, life's just kind of

1550
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 1: taking its toll or whatever, or or or what it is.

1551
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 1: But he's got some fire to him. Yeah, yeah, no, no,

1552
01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 1: he definitely does all right. In this game. We have

1553
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:56,559
Speaker 1: Utah is favorite in this game by three points over

1554
01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:59,160
Speaker 1: Under in this game of respectable fifty five and a

1555
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 1: half two M I got Utah minus three and the over.

1556
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and the under at fifty five and a half.

1557
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 1: I will take Utah along with you, but I'll go

1558
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 1: with the over. I think this game might have a

1559
01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:24,639
Speaker 1: lot of points. Why, uh, just because Oregon States offense

1560
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:28,880
Speaker 1: has been really good. Utah hadn't necessarily stopped anyone. They've

1561
01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:31,519
Speaker 1: had lots of good possessions and they've been the more

1562
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 1: disciplined team. But a SU scored twenty one and a

1563
01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 1: half and you know, USC blew some opportunities, but they

1564
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:42,840
Speaker 1: still ended up, you know, with points or whatever. There's

1565
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:44,679
Speaker 1: no reason to think that a team with a better

1566
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 1: offense that's better coached couldn't get to possibly thirty and

1567
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:59,600
Speaker 1: maybe like a thirty thirty one game. Yeah, yeah, I

1568
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 1: do think it's going to be closer, and I am

1569
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:06,559
Speaker 1: leaning to more points being scored. But these teams aren't

1570
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:08,559
Speaker 1: going to throw the ball a lot, probably, so the

1571
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:12,120
Speaker 1: game could be a little bit shorter. And if it

1572
01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 1: starts out slow, then it's going to finish slow. So well,

1573
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:17,400
Speaker 1: I do know one thing about Oregon State, and if

1574
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:20,240
Speaker 1: they have this in common with a s U, they

1575
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:23,639
Speaker 1: can't defend the tight end and Utah seems to have nothing.

1576
01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:28,240
Speaker 1: But so I do think at the very least, I

1577
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:30,120
Speaker 1: think Utah is going to get some They might have

1578
01:39:30,160 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 1: a couple of touchdown passes early on UM and then

1579
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:35,880
Speaker 1: be able to maybe put it in cruise control from

1580
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 1: there if they get up early. But I don't I

1581
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:41,559
Speaker 1: don't know if I see this Utah defense holding Oregon

1582
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:44,839
Speaker 1: State down UM, if they force them to a situation

1583
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 1: where they have to pass them, that could get real ugly.

1584
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 1: But if if Oregon State is allowed to be balanced,

1585
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:56,200
Speaker 1: you might see a lot of points. Yeah. I am

1586
01:39:56,280 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 1: a guy who looks at like at the entire season

1587
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:09,320
Speaker 1: and how you know teams are playing and all of that,

1588
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:14,519
Speaker 1: and then understanding how the coaches look, how the players

1589
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:17,479
Speaker 1: kind of view their their season because I've been in

1590
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 1: all of it. I've been on really good teams that

1591
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:23,400
Speaker 1: should have been in the National Championship Game, and then

1592
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:26,240
Speaker 1: I've also been to a team that lost the Seattle

1593
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:28,840
Speaker 1: Ball I've never been on a non Bowl bowl team,

1594
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:31,640
Speaker 1: so I don't understand what what what that life is like.

1595
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:34,680
Speaker 1: But I do understand what having a disappointing season is

1596
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:36,920
Speaker 1: because it did happen once at once. While I was

1597
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:43,200
Speaker 1: at Oregon, and when I look at these teams in

1598
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:47,760
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve, it is imperative that we find some

1599
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 1: greatness in the conference. Like you need one team to

1600
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 1: emerge as what Clemson had been prior to this year

1601
01:40:56,479 --> 01:40:58,760
Speaker 1: to the a c C or what Florida State have

1602
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 1: been prior to that. You have to be that, like

1603
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:05,759
Speaker 1: for the conference to take the next step, you need

1604
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 1: an elite team. And if it's Oregon this year, if

1605
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:12,280
Speaker 1: they can finish twelve and one, I would have rooted

1606
01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 1: for that. But if but if Oregon was gonna lose too,

1607
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:21,439
Speaker 1: but if they were gonna lose to like like if

1608
01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:25,559
Speaker 1: they were gonna lose again and had Arizona State one

1609
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:28,840
Speaker 1: out and been twelve and one and got a chance

1610
01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:32,640
Speaker 1: to go to the to the UH playoff where it's

1611
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:34,559
Speaker 1: Oregon would have just gone to the Rose Bowl and

1612
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:36,400
Speaker 1: then still going to the Rose Bowl, would have lost

1613
01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 1: in the PAC twelve Championship. I would have been okay

1614
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:41,639
Speaker 1: with that. Does that make sense? Yeah, it makes sense,

1615
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:44,040
Speaker 1: But you're forgetting that the Pact quote does have an

1616
01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 1: elite team, an undefeated elite team. Who is that San

1617
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:54,840
Speaker 1: Diego State? Oh man, if you don't get out of here. Dude,

1618
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:57,479
Speaker 1: Oregon would blow the doors off of them. Are you

1619
01:41:57,640 --> 01:42:05,400
Speaker 1: sure couldn't? Who is Oregon blown the doors off this year? Listen,

1620
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 1: don't nobody asked you for your common sense? You know

1621
01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:11,880
Speaker 1: what I want? Hey, I'm telling you this as I'm

1622
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:14,720
Speaker 1: telling you this as a college football fan. You don't

1623
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:17,559
Speaker 1: want anything to do with Greg Bell or San Diego State,

1624
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:21,479
Speaker 1: especially on their home field. None of us do well.

1625
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 1: Of course, who would schedule only only creep a zoid

1626
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:29,679
Speaker 1: schedule them at home in Utah? Way to go, buddy,

1627
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 1: that's a losing. That's that's like playing again at Boise

1628
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:36,000
Speaker 1: State like Oregon did in Chips first like first or

1629
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:41,759
Speaker 1: second year. That's pure lunacy, dude, pure lunas. I'm just saying,

1630
01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:45,720
Speaker 1: Goes State rolls through the Mountain West and they go undefeated,

1631
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:49,560
Speaker 1: and they go they go thirteen to know, I'm claiming them,

1632
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm doing it. Judas, Okay, Judas, judy, and they were

1633
01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:58,760
Speaker 1: adding an apostle, not taking one the way I just

1634
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:02,479
Speaker 1: they they You're right, No, you're absolutely right. The factor

1635
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:04,559
Speaker 1: needs an elite team and they don't have one, and

1636
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:10,519
Speaker 1: uh it is. It's very frustrating a final thing for

1637
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 1: it today though, are we looking at oh, the the

1638
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:22,040
Speaker 1: USC coaching hot board. As far as the Survivor series,

1639
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:25,240
Speaker 1: has there been anybody who's been knocked off of the

1640
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:29,240
Speaker 1: Survivor Series? I want to I'm leaning toward knocking off

1641
01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:35,479
Speaker 1: Billy Napier. Why l s you open? But that's just

1642
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:38,439
Speaker 1: me thinking that he'd be a good fit. Yeah, no, no,

1643
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:45,080
Speaker 1: he definitely would. Um the somebody that. Okay, we have

1644
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:50,680
Speaker 1: already knocked off Urban Meyer, Tony Elliott, Clemson's o C.

1645
01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:58,439
Speaker 1: We've knocked off H. P. J. Fleck, we have knocked

1646
01:43:58,439 --> 01:44:03,720
Speaker 1: off Eric b Enemy, We've knocked off Mario christ the Ball,

1647
01:44:03,880 --> 01:44:08,559
Speaker 1: We've knocked off Dante Williams, which leaves us with James Franklin,

1648
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:14,720
Speaker 1: Joe Brady, Lane Kiffin, Luke Fickle or or or are

1649
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:18,280
Speaker 1: are we knocking lane Kiving off too? I think Lane

1650
01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:20,560
Speaker 1: Kiffin would be more likely to stay at Alms or

1651
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:22,760
Speaker 1: go to Alix. You have to think he's like on

1652
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 1: his third or fourth sec job. Now he's not a

1653
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:29,800
Speaker 1: California boy anymore. Yeah, Okay, then okay, so we'll knock

1654
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:33,200
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffing off. So then that leaves us with Luke Fickle,

1655
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 1: Joe Brady, James Franklin. Uh, Jonathan Smith still Jonathan Smith,

1656
01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:55,639
Speaker 1: Matt Campbell, Bob Stoops yep, and that's oh m Bill O'Brien. Yeah,

1657
01:44:55,840 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 1: claim clubhouse leaderboard for me is still Jonathan Smith. Um.

1658
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,559
Speaker 1: I think if they could get James Franklin, they would,

1659
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:05,479
Speaker 1: But it just I talked about it with another friend

1660
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:08,599
Speaker 1: who's a lifelong penn State fan. It just doesn't make

1661
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:10,880
Speaker 1: sense to leave back to back to back to back

1662
01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:15,519
Speaker 1: top six recruiting classes behind, not to not to do

1663
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:18,120
Speaker 1: something that would essentially be a full rebuild, but to

1664
01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:23,760
Speaker 1: leave your he got teenage girls, he's he's from Pennsylvania. Um,

1665
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:25,720
Speaker 1: it's different for Luke Fickle. Luke Fickle is doing it

1666
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:29,040
Speaker 1: with top fifty classes like he would actually get better resources.

1667
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:36,360
Speaker 1: James Franklin won't. Yeah, Yeah, that's reasonable, all right. And

1668
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:39,280
Speaker 1: the final thing is Ralph, how does the PAC twelve

1669
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:43,320
Speaker 1: finish up for this season? Who is in the conference

1670
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:49,439
Speaker 1: game in the conference championship game? Um? I I'm trying

1671
01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:52,080
Speaker 1: not to be super reactive, so you might you might

1672
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:53,720
Speaker 1: ask me two days from now and I'll have a

1673
01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:57,720
Speaker 1: different opinion, but I'm gonna stay the course. On a

1674
01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:00,400
Speaker 1: s U and Oregon Um, I know it's gonna take

1675
01:46:00,439 --> 01:46:05,759
Speaker 1: some losing on Utah's part um, But again, if Utah

1676
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:07,920
Speaker 1: goes out to Oregon State and they put on a

1677
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 1: dominant performance, I'm probably have to change my mind. I

1678
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:15,160
Speaker 1: just don't want to be super reactive in the moment um. Yeah. So,

1679
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:17,599
Speaker 1: but as far as other hot boards, since we got

1680
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:20,439
Speaker 1: Washington State open, now, let me officially start being the

1681
01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 1: lobbyist for Jay Norville to the police. I think that

1682
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:28,840
Speaker 1: that is the best possible option. Yeah, I am going

1683
01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:34,519
Speaker 1: to go with I'm gonna go with Utah and Oregon

1684
01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:38,200
Speaker 1: in the conference game. I thought it was gonna be

1685
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:41,040
Speaker 1: U c l A. Actually no, I picked U c

1686
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:43,800
Speaker 1: l A prior to the season and they still got

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Speaker 1: a shot. So I'm gonna stay with them. Even though

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Speaker 1: I believe that they're going to lose to Oregon this weekend,

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Speaker 1: I still got U c l A making the Pack

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Speaker 1: twelve championship game. And actually USC is gonna be the

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Speaker 1: one who throws a monkey wrench and some of these

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Speaker 1: teams uh schedule, like when when Arizona State plays USC

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Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. Um, that is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a game that we're all gonna have to watch because

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Speaker 1: uh and that's on November six, so that's in three weeks.

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Speaker 1: All right, all right you guys. That's the pack twelve

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Speaker 1: Apostles for this week. I'm George Rice Stir, He's Ralph Hampton.

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Speaker 1: Peace out, catch you later.