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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha.

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Speaker 2: I'm welcome to stuff I've never told you productive I

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Speaker 2: heartd you, and welcome to another edition of Spoiled Saturdays.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we haven't been consistent necessarily with what

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Speaker 2: should be.

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Speaker 1: A spoiled I thought we had a timeline.

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Speaker 2: There is a timeline, but we've definitely done some movies

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Speaker 2: and it's usually my fault that probably should have been

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Speaker 2: a spoiled Saturday because well, I think it's changed now

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Speaker 2: because of social media, but the long standing rules ten years.

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Speaker 1: Right, I've definitely spoiled on Wolverine and Deadpool, Like I

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Speaker 1: know a thing's coming and I'm like, oh, well that's

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Speaker 1: social media media culture.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, immediately like, well.

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Speaker 1: I don't hate it.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I do?

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Speaker 1: You do you hate it? Generally? Like the weight in

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Speaker 1: the build up, I do not care, as in fact

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Speaker 1: I need it. Probably.

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Speaker 2: I like the choice. I wish we had more choice

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Speaker 2: because I actually read a whole interesting article about that

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Speaker 2: and fall out where people were like, we really should

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Speaker 2: have not binged this, We should have like had more

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Speaker 2: time to talk about this. It's like, well, yep, but anyway,

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Speaker 2: I have a lot of thoughts about it, and I

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Speaker 2: have a lot of thoughts about this movie, but this

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Speaker 2: one is definitely a spoiled Saturday because it came out

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: And.

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Speaker 2: I this is actually kind of related to what we

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Speaker 2: were just talking about. I mentioned it recently. I've sort

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Speaker 2: of been in a strange place where I don't want

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Speaker 2: to watch things that I love, like television, don't want

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Speaker 2: to watch television shows. Essentially. I was always kind of

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Speaker 2: weird about watching television shows because I get committed and

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Speaker 2: then I get stuck and I've but usually even if

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Speaker 2: watch it if it was like a show I really liked,

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Speaker 2: or franchise really liked or something. And I'm taking I've

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Speaker 2: taken a step back from that four Now. I will

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Speaker 2: get to it all eventually, but I was taking a

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Speaker 2: step back, which means I've watched a lot of horror movies,

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Speaker 2: so many horror movies, and like horror movies that are

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Speaker 2: just one and done and I could move on. So

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Speaker 2: that's how I found this movie, which is not a

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Speaker 2: horror movie by the way, it was advertised to me

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Speaker 1: It's that as a horror comedy. That's how I advertised it.

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Speaker 2: It's a horror comedy. I think it just came up.

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Speaker 2: I think I had a free trial of something and

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Speaker 2: it was under like you know the horror banner. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: And I just read the description and I was like, yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: I will watch this.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you would be the one to find

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Speaker 2: It's publicity to be I told you, if I have

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Speaker 2: more time, I would start a blog. Yeah, that's just

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Speaker 2: like obscure horror movies I have found, Yes, because a

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Speaker 2: lot of times after I watch a horror movie I

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Speaker 2: like to look it up afterwards and you know, did

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Speaker 2: I miss something? Was there's some deeper meaning? I did

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Speaker 2: write there was like nothing for this movie. There was

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Speaker 2: nothing for several movies I've watched recently, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: Be the one. Maybe you should be the one.

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Speaker 2: Here we are with the podcast about it. Yes, and

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, yep, it's a fun time. We're

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Speaker 2: talking about twenty movie Scream Therapy, and this I will say,

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Speaker 2: as far as spoiled Saturdays go, if you are really

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Speaker 2: but I feel like one is enough. So there's murder.

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Speaker 2: Screen Therapy is Yes a twenty twenty three movie written

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Speaker 2: and directed by Cassie Keat, who also briefly cameos in

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Speaker 2: Brownwin as Avery, Rochelle Anderson as Jillian, Mandy Chung as Dylan, Jerry,

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Speaker 2: It opens with a group of five friends, Avery, Dylan, Mary, Beth,

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Speaker 2: At this party, Avery breaks up with her boyfriend of

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Speaker 2: Their airbnb is super isolated in the desert, and it

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Speaker 2: into Nicholas Cage. I love that she has a hoodie

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Speaker 2: Something is immediately off about the bar when they come in, though.

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Speaker 1: put me back by burning my body, I was like,

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00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: why don't they just burn his body, like, just set

434
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: him on fire. Don't they don't want that to send

435
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: him back? I don't understand.

436
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if the I don't know if

437
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 2: that would stop the ritual.

438
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 1: Oh, the stop the taking of their souls.

439
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean there was also the darker

440
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 2: point where the he pointed out that basically the people

441
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 2: and the cult also got sacrificed at like forty two

442
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: or something. It was grim. It was presented very humorously.

443
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 1: Yes, the dude deadpan. Oh yeah, definitely they're the worst.

444
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's definitely yeah. Oh this is great. I'm

445
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: enjoying this. You should definitely kill him, right. Yeah.

446
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 2: He was a fun He was a fun little chaos

447
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 2: in the background A lot of times just watching them,

448
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 2: like trying to figure this out. Oh. I did find

449
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 2: a quote from Yahoo about this, considering the film bills

450
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: its cult. As in cells, it would be very easy

451
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: to hammer that home in a menacing way, allowing revenge

452
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: and redemption for the women. Instead, the men are portrayed

453
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: as naive and controlled by suggestive propaganda. Sure there's no

454
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: shortage of idiots and souls to be found here, but

455
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 2: there's a clear distinction between those who should know better

456
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: and those who weren't taught better. So I do like

457
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 2: the end credit scene where she's like teaching.

458
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: Them, Yeah, I stop asking.

459
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 2: He's like, give me your number and she says no.

460
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 2: He's like, can I have your number? No? But that

461
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: was one of my favorite things. And you know, it

462
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 2: is like we talk about this a lot. It's frustrating

463
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: when you have to do the extra work of that.

464
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 2: But it's also very clear he was pretty much just

465
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 2: raised in this and was very confused, believed it wholeheartedly.

466
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 2: And I really liked that she didn't end up with him.

467
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 2: I really liked that he tried to kiss her and

468
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 2: she was like, oh no, I know, and he was like, oh, okay, okay.

469
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: He like, oh really, oh oh I just thought okay.

470
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, which he he admitted to her that he saw

471
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: her and was attracted her, and he was the one

472
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 2: that chose them as as the sacrifices because they had

473
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: been told that that's they would be happy to be sacrifices, right,

474
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: And that's why they were screaming, because that they didn't

475
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 2: want you to feel jealous that they were going to

476
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: go to heaven, I guess, but he was trying to

477
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: save her and Jillian, who Gillian later pointed out was like,

478
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: that's still you're killing my friends. Do you think I

479
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 2: was happy about that? And yeah, just that whole vibe

480
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: of like as women when you go into a bar

481
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: and all the men kind of turn and look at

482
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: you and you're feeling out. I don't know. I don't

483
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: know about this. I don't know about this, And there

484
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: is yes motherhood in this single motherhood. In fact, she

485
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: does have a drink and everything.

486
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,239
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I was like, well, not only that

487
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 3: was it a drink, but like a shot like hard

488
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 3: look like typically I see like a glass of wine

489
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 3: or like half a glass of wine is the typical

490
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: recommendations all like oh.

491
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know.

492
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 3: I don't know what the new updated come up with

493
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 3: new things, So there's no shame in that. But I

494
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 3: was like wow, but also like with that they were

495
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 3: in solidarity because she was like not having the fact

496
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 3: that she was the only sober one's gonna have to

497
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 3: take care of all of them. She's like, please tell

498
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 3: me do this, and so at these two of them

499
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: are like, yeah, okay, then we won't do it either,

500
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 3: and isolate you because at first they were going to.

501
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 3: But then like having that because I thought maybe this

502
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: was going to be one of those moments too, where

503
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 3: the trope of her being sober having to be like

504
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 3: taking care of all of them and like whatever whatnot.

505
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: But they, you know, they did that. I was like, oh,

506
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,719
Speaker 1: it's kind of nice. Even though they still weren't. They

507
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: still had to be taken care of, Like the chaos

508
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: was still there.

509
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 2: The chaos was definitely still there. Yeah, so that is

510
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:39,479
Speaker 2: for sure. But see again read drugs, which only two

511
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: of them did, but they caused a lot of koss

512
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: through it. I did love there's a scene where you know,

513
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: they're realizing they're still really high and can't drive, and

514
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: they get distracted by like, what's that show? And I

515
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: immediately knew it was Entourage You Too.

516
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: The Douchebags was the show with the douchebags and I'll

517
00:30:59,160 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: think it.

518
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: In the city.

519
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: But for mar even before she said with a group

520
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: of guys and dish bags who hate well, like like

521
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: before she said sex in the city, and then I

522
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah.

523
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did too. That was so funny. But she does.

524
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: At the end, Gilian does have her baby, and as

525
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: I said, she named her Billy after the angel slash Bartender.

526
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: And then there is that brief conversation on abortion. There's

527
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: also kind of a funny part where they're Avery and

528
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: Jail are trying to prove to the other three that

529
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: this guy is like really sad and he doesn't know anything,

530
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: and they were like, who's Ruth Bader Ginsburg and he's

531
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: like a Swish Yeah, a prophet for George Peterson.

532
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was like, oh, what is it? Yeah,

533
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: this cel behavior.

534
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 2: This is in so yeah, yeah yeah, And then I

535
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: do love at the end where because there's a funny

536
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: line where noras like you could have been crushing for

537
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: decades kids, that he could have been having sex this

538
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: whole time essentially, and then at the end, Darrenmi I

539
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: was like, we don't have to wait till we're thirty

540
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 2: five to have sex and one of the other cult MEMBERSSS,

541
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: surely you jape so good? Oh, then you know through

542
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: the cult leader, you do see a lot of the

543
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: things we see in in cell conversations. My girls aren't

544
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: as strong, they wouldn't survive, wouldn't be born, a lot

545
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: of things like that. Not thinking about the mothers at

546
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: all having to sacrifice women to have sex. But I

547
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: did think it was interesting. And again this is just me.

548
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: I like to read deep into things, right, I'm not sure,

549
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: but I do think it's interesting, like the conversation that

550
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 2: you could have about this about the patriarchy being a

551
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: cult that we're raised and because if you like, go

552
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: back to that Yahoo quote, it's like, that's just what

553
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: he knows, because that's what he was raised in and

554
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: it's horrible and it involves sacrificing women and a lot

555
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: of misinformation and a lot of ignorance. And so I

556
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: just couldn't. I was like, hmm, I mean maybe a

557
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: bitchup of parallel here. Of course, conspiracy I loved. I

558
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: was not expecting that when the crossbow guy was like,

559
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 2: here are one of the lizard people with the five

560
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: ge Wow? Yes, yes, And then Nicholas Cage of course,

561
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: of course, and having the demon have his his heartfelt

562
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: moment about Nicholas Cage, his versatility, versatility.

563
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a national treasure. Literally.

564
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

565
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: I did like that line. I was like, oh, look

566
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: at you.

567
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 2: It was good. It was good. What does he call

568
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: He calls them donut? Does it call them loopholes? He

569
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: calls them donuts.

570
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: Because Nicholas Cage, like Nicholas Page own a donut chicken shop?

571
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: Really, I believe.

572
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: So, Okay, I didn't know this because that's the one

573
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: over my head. I was like, are they trying to

574
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,479
Speaker 1: make Nicholas Occage into something else? Like, because I didn't

575
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: realize you actually had one.

576
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: So I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure. I will listeners

577
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 2: write in if you know, if you've been.

578
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: To it, donut.

579
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 3: I guess you can't really do that one day, Nicholas

580
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 3: Cage donut one day. Maybe it is real, it's real,

581
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 3: if it's real, conspiracy. Yeah, this was a fun one.

582
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: I really hope if you are interested, I really recommend it.

583
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 3: I'm kind of said if you got spoiled by it,

584
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 3: this was your first because it is fun to go into.

585
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 2: But yes, I hope I hope you all enjoyed this episode.

586
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 2: It was certainly fun fun for me. Yeah, if you

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Speaker 2: do like finding movies that are a bit off the

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Speaker 2: beaten path, So if you have any suggestions in that

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