1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where it's always West Coast, Best Coast. 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: We are here in the Chris Westling podcast studio, and 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: by we, I mean myself and Jordan Rodrigue of the Athletic. 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: It's like we're back in New Orleans. Its just a 5 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: two person show, the two of us. 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: I know, I feel like I just saw you, Greg, 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: although you went through some things you did between the 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: last time I saw you and now, so glad you're doing. 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: Better you did. You saw us on Tuesday show with 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf. Remember that that was great. I started the 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: show saying West Coast, best Coast. Because we're talking a 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: little NFC West. We are continuing our off season division 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: previews with the NFC West, a division. You have been 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: intimately familiar with a lot of drama for the last 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: five years as you've covered the Los Angeles Rams, and 16 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: the West Coast really is the best coast. And it's 17 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: not just because all you suckers back east are just 18 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: dealing with all that snow and everything like that. Like 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: that's the number one thing, But the number two thing 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: is the time zones is better, Like the Pacific time 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: zone is just better for sports. And if you're listening 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: to the show sports is probably important to you. It's 23 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: important to me. 24 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 3: I would actually push back on that slightly. 25 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: Watching sports it's the best to be in Pacific time. 26 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 3: However, when you come into this time. 27 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 2: Of year, which we like to refer to as Greg's season, 28 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: often the news happens on East Coast time, so you 29 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: need to be up at an on godly hour in 30 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 2: order to make sure that you're keeping up to pace 31 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: with everything. Luckily, a lot of these NFC West teams 32 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: they actually do transactions on West Coast time too, So 33 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: just everyone else that you got to worry about. 34 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: That's a fair point. Now that I'm on old man 35 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: time and a child's time, I'm up early anyways, so 36 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: give it to me. I love it. I love it all. 37 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: We're going to go through all four teams in the 38 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: NFC West. We'll ask one big question about those teams. 39 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: We'll look at guys that could get cut, stuff like that, 40 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: and we are going to start with you. Let's start 41 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: with the Seattle Seahawks. I don't want it to be 42 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: predictable with you starting with the Rams. How do you 43 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: want to kick it off with the switch ten minutes 44 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: on the clock, let's go. Yes. 45 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: I think the biggest question for the Seattle Seahawks actually 46 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: interconnects to many other questions about how they're going to 47 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: a get under the cap and then be balance their 48 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: roster and the future of their roster structure. It is 49 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: how will they and will they overhaul their offensive line 50 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: this year? I think that they could stand to replace 51 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,399 Speaker 2: four of the five spots. 52 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 1: Now. 53 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 2: I don't know, greg if they can do that all 54 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: in one off season between the draft and free agency. 55 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: The Chiefs had that season where they're like, we're going 56 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: to fix the offensive line. We're going to do it 57 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: in one year, and they did it. But yeah, good 58 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: luck trying to draft Creed Humphrey and Tray Smith in 59 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: the same Yeah, it's just so easy. It's not that easy. 60 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: But they threw money at the problem and they did it. 61 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: That is a that's one place to start. And it 62 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: was really interesting listening to John Schneider speak on a 63 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: local radio show. Is the first time he had spoken 64 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: since after the season, and he said, we know exactly 65 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: what our deficiencies are and then immediately started talking about 66 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: how good the Eagles are at developing their offensive line. 67 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: So he left no mystery he knows what the problem is, 68 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: and yet he's been there the whole time and it's 69 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,399 Speaker 1: been a problem the whole time, and he hasn't really 70 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: done a very good job. He said, we got to 71 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: develop offensive lineman better, but like he's done a bad 72 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: job picking them. 73 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: We're all trying to find the guy who did this 74 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: right exactly. So, yeah, this is an issue. I mean, 75 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: you could see where they've tried. They've tried to fill 76 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: in a couple, especially their interior spots with backup middle 77 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: to later round to late middle draft picks who you 78 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: could see potential spurts and flashes. We'll get to that 79 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: in a minute, but if you're looking at again, four 80 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: of those five spots outside of left tackle and Charles 81 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: Cross is due for an extension. PFF had him rank 82 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: their tenth left or their tenth tackle of one hundred 83 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: and forty one tackles in the NFL this year, but 84 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: everybody struggled and it derailed so much about their offense. 85 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: It did not help that then coordinator Ryan Grubb just 86 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: seemed to have issues finding answers and having solutions. 87 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: Running the ball was a big issue. Pass protection for. 88 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: Gino Smith was a significant issue. 89 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: It just was something we. 90 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 2: Talked about all last year at nauseum and they're looking 91 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: at a center Connor Williams, who retired. I don't know 92 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: that we've talked about that enough. Literally had a center 93 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 2: retire on them. They just brought in to help alleviate 94 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: some of those issues. And then they're struggling at their 95 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: guard spots, and certainly on the right side they had 96 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: no answers all year. That was the one of the 97 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: worst problems anywhere along any offensive line in football was 98 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 2: that right side of their line. And it is interesting 99 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: that you brought up John Schneider because last year, wasn't 100 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,239 Speaker 2: he the one that was just talking about how guards 101 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: paying guards is overrated and guards are overpaid and we 102 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: should draft them, and it's like we're still waiting. 103 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: Well, on one hand, he could be there's something right 104 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: about him, which is the I think an offensive line 105 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: coach and system can make that true. Yeah, if you 106 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: can find the right one. But they never have found 107 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: the right one, and so they hire Clint Kubiak. He 108 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: also brought in offensive line coach John Benton, who is 109 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: with him in New Orleans, who's a veteran coach. So 110 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: you're hoping that that can help things out. That the 111 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: offensive line was okay. In New Orleans last year they 112 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: had a center Oloatammi who helped. They had a young 113 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: late pick La Maya sent Tail Mayo like, you're trying 114 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: to develop these guys, you're gonna throw money out the problem. 115 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: All right, Let's look big picture. Seahawks thirteen million dollars 116 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: in the red as of this taping, so they are 117 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: actually over the cap. They have a lot to do. 118 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: They do have three comp picks coming to them this year, 119 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: so that's nice. Here's some of the decisions that they'll 120 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: have to make in terms of getting under that cap space. 121 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: Gino Smith, do you extend him? Do you do that 122 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: to lower his cap number which is forty four million 123 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: dollars right now? Just see how he looks in the 124 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: new system. Tyler Lockett a seventeen million dollar cap hit, 125 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: probably gonna get cut. Draymont Jones sixteen million dollars in 126 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: savings if you cut him. There's two guys right there 127 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: where I just lopped off about thirty three million dollars. 128 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: Even when teams are over, it's not that hard to 129 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: get under. But those are some of the decisions in 130 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: terms of veterans on their roster they can address to 131 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: get under that. 132 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: You know, it's easy to get under the cap. But 133 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: in terms of the investments that Seattle might have to 134 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: make in free agency with this offensive line some of 135 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: the top tier guys, I don't even know if they're 136 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: going to be able to truly go after them unless 137 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: they significantly restructure the way that they're going to handle 138 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: this cap situation. Not just a release of Tyler Lockette 139 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: which would save them seventeen million dollars, not just the 140 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 2: Jones release, not just a potential what would the numbers 141 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: on a potential Geno Smith contract extension look like in 142 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five versus in the year's past. That would 143 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 2: it help alleviate issues in twenty twenty five, But then 144 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: you know, he's what thirty five years old, and you 145 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 2: have to think about what comes after twenty twenty five, 146 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: especially pairing him with a third offensive coordinator in three seasons, 147 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,119 Speaker 2: and you can't be certain that you actually have fixed 148 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: the offensive line at that What do you think? 149 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: Do you think they want to commit to Geno pass 150 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: this year or not? 151 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 3: I don't I couldn't tell you what they're thinking. 152 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but what do you do? 153 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: I would I mean I would. 154 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: I would say he could probably play till he's probably 155 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: thirty eight. And I think what you can see sometimes 156 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: with a lot of these veteran players is the preference 157 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: to do some of these two or three year deals. 158 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 3: Now would he take that? 159 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: Now? I can't speak for what you know would or 160 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: would not, except he's been through it the last couple 161 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: of years. Had to put a lot on his shoulders 162 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: that there's been some chaos and dysfunction around him. But 163 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: they also have a lot of players coming up that 164 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: they have to start thinking about beyond this year. Boya, Mafe, 165 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: Rikuol and DK Metcalf, they're all entering their contract years. 166 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: We haven't even talked about yet whether they're going to 167 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 2: potentially re sign inside linebacker Ernest Jones. He's going to 168 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: be a free agent who clearly thinks he can get 169 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: a good price on the market, because they were in 170 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: contract discussions and then they paused them, probably because his 171 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: agent learned that he could he would have a nice 172 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: little market and be able to maybe get some more 173 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: money out of whichever team, including Seattle. So they're thinking 174 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: they have to think in twenty twenty five. How they 175 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: can navigate this, not just get under the cap, but 176 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: actually invest in key positions that would help Geno Smith. 177 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 2: But then they also have to think about Geno Smith 178 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: and what load that contract is beyond this year when 179 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: some of their star players at premium positions are are due. 180 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, Gino, like I said, forty four million dollars cap hit, 181 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 1: they could lower that by extending them out another year. 182 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: They're also being risky. If he looks great in this system, 183 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: then he could suddenly, like you, be headed to free 184 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: agency and they'd be worried about having to be in 185 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: a bidding war for him. My guess is they'll want 186 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: to see how he looks here and maybe just live 187 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: with that cap number. But I think it makes sense 188 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: if you wanted to extend about I think he'd take whatever, 189 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: not not whatever. But he's at that mid level quarterback. 190 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: He's not going to make the Joe Burrow money. But 191 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: his money, which you know this year is going to 192 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: be plenty of salary, is not that far below like 193 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: he's in that you know, forty to fifty million dollar range. 194 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: If they wanted to extend that out another year or two, 195 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: I guess they would do it. You you have a 196 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: good point mentioning Riequill, and I think both him and 197 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: DK Metcalf are sneaky trade possibilities if you didn't think 198 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: you were going to pay both of them. 199 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: It is interesting though, because you can tell based on 200 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 2: listening to Clint Kubiak, who spent a little time with 201 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: Justsin Jefferson, Like you can tell that he really wants 202 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: to work with him. Now, whether that's I don't think 203 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: Gina with DK, oh with DK, I don't think, Yeah, 204 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 2: why wouldn't you. 205 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: By the way, everyone in Seattle who's like, how come 206 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: they don't trade DK metcal It's like, why would he trade? 207 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 3: He's a monster? 208 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, he's not quite a J Brown, He's not. 209 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: He's certainly not Jamar Chase. But having a top fifteen 210 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: wide receiver with a very defined skill set is very valuable. 211 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: And all I'm saying is, I don't think that Clint 212 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: is coming in there, you know, his first day on 213 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 2: the job and throwing smoke screens out there, Like I 214 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: just don't think that they operate. 215 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going anywhere. 216 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: To be cleary, yeah and so, but yes, obviously he 217 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: will receive interest every year that they don't have an 218 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: extension done with him, and he will be due for 219 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: one after this season. But it's interesting because I don't 220 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 2: know how this Kubiak Gino Smith pairing is going to go. 221 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 2: I don't know that I would necessarily tie my quarterback's 222 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: future with somebody who struggled last season in New Orleans. 223 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 2: And it's interesting because they have to find this synchronicity. 224 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: They have to find a collaboration, and I have no 225 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: doubt that Gino Smith will be able to work in 226 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: whatever system with whoever, but to have if you're Gino 227 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 2: and you're thinking, okay, if they're going to wait on 228 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 2: my extension, if they're going to wait for this to 229 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: possibly work, I don't know how I would personally feel 230 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 2: about that if I'm in that position, because you're handing 231 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: this guy his third offensive coordinator in three seasons and 232 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: you've asked him to put everything on his back the 233 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: two of the last three and haven't protected him. 234 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 3: Okay, time flu Oh my god, I know. 235 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does go fast. When I thought about some 236 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: free agents they might look at, like Drew Dollman is 237 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: going to be the top center. That's gonna cost a 238 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: ton of money, but that would be a perfect fit 239 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: for the Clint Kubiak system, kind of a zone running scheme. 240 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: DJ Reid, who's a former Seahawk, would they I know 241 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: they're they're good at cornerback, but that would be something 242 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: where maybe they would swap him out for Reek. One 243 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: positive though, is that they don't really have many key 244 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: free agents. You mentioned Ernest Jones. Really him and Jaron Reid, 245 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: their defensive tackle are really their only key free agency. 246 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: Only two in my top one to one. Ernest Jones 247 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: is pretty high. But that's good. So they don't have 248 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: a lot of issues. They have a lot of great 249 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: players coming back, especially on offense. Really on both sides 250 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: of the ball. 251 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: I should say I would keep an eye to on 252 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: left guard Aaron Banks, who Clint Kubiak is familiar with 253 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: from time together at the forty nine Ers. Those all 254 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: those interior spots have to be figured out, and right 255 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 2: tackle and he might. 256 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: Be a little uh cheaper zero perfect. Let's talk Cardinals. 257 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: The question I'm gonna ask is how does Monty season 258 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: play out? And this is Monty Asin for a guy 259 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: who's barely been mentioned on this show because the Cardinals 260 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: have been lying in the Weeds just collecting war chests 261 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: of cap space and not really spending and adding all 262 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: these small little players. And but this is his third offseason. 263 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: This is the season that Monty asen for is gonna push. 264 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: So it's not just the regular season, the regular season. 265 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: I love that so much. 266 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. 267 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: Shout out to Jackson Bevans, our friend who owns the 268 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: Garth Thoughts. He sent me that idea. 269 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, I'm going with I know Jackson, 270 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: hopefully we did the Seahawks justice. I know he's like 271 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: way more in the Weeds on it than I own. 272 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: It's the regular season, okay, Manti asin For. They have 273 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: sixty nine million dollars in cap space right now, that's 274 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: the fourth most and they can actually open up quite 275 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: a bit more, or if they would like to Jonah Williams, 276 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: for instance, that could they could save ten million dollars 277 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: seas coming off a huge injury. And so how does 278 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: Monty season look? Because the Cardinals would be high on 279 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: my list of teams that are gonna be in the 280 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 1: mix this offseason, and to me, there's kind of two 281 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: different routes that they could go. Is it spreading that 282 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: money out with about five, six, seven starters, and I 283 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: do think that's the type of aggression we're going to 284 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: see out of the Cardinals. Or are they gonna be 285 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: one of the teams that goes really big splash, you know, 286 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: a couple other starters and then you know lower level players. 287 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: How does Monty season play out? Because this team, to me, 288 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: third year, the way they've built it up, it's like 289 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: go time for the entire organization. 290 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: I think the smart thing and what I would do 291 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 2: if I were Monty I am not, as that is 292 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: hopefully very clear to people watching and listening. 293 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: Is a bald man. 294 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: Yes, but I would do the latter because I don't 295 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: think this is a particularly deep or very very strong 296 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 2: free agency class. I think that they could be ready 297 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 2: to win if they make a couple of win a 298 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: lot of games, if they if they make a couple 299 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 2: of key additions and like little prune and tweak and 300 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 2: a couple of key spots which we'll get to. So 301 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 2: I think that this is one of those teams that 302 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 2: you can make a big splash. I think that they 303 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: could potentially be in the marketer, in the running for 304 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: like a Milton Williams for example. Okay, somebody who will 305 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: come in and be a day one investment, a difference maker, 306 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: someone that Jonathan Gannon will have been watching Vic Fangio 307 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: go through the second half of this past season and 308 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: watching his old his old coworker go into the postseason 309 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: with this really strong defensive line that became a defining 310 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: characteristic of this team. And I also think that you 311 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: know that's a player. He is a player that you 312 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: would potentially make a significant investment in, and then with 313 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: such a ripple effect, you then prune and pick elsewhere. 314 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: They have six draft picks, so they're going to have 315 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: to make the most of every single one of those. 316 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: So this is why it's great to have you aboard 317 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: have two people thinking about this. I somehow didn't even 318 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: think about the fact that it's Jonathan Gannon running this 319 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: team in a year where all these Eagles defenders are available. 320 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: I know, because it's not just Milton Williams, it's John 321 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: to have money, it's Josh Sweat, Like they could certainly 322 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: be a Josh Sweat team. Zach Bond I think would 323 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: fit in terms of versatility what they do, So that 324 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: might be someone that they're negotiating against. They can have 325 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: their cake and eat it too. Though, like I was saying, 326 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: it's a decision like do they go big and then 327 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: it's a couple like lesser ones seventy million. They have 328 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: too much cap space everyone that is that high up there. 329 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: There's just not enough good players that you're going to 330 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: be able to keep in so you can have your 331 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: cake and eat it too. I think they're one of 332 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: the more likely teams to go after a Micah Parsons 333 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: if he's available. A Max Cross you're. 334 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 3: Really pushing that one. I've noticed that that's a. 335 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: That's it's intriguing a T. Higgins if he's like there 336 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: actually isn't a position and I went through other than 337 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: quarterback that I'm like, no, that wouldn't make sense. So 338 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: any of the top level, but Jeffrey Simmons would make sense. 339 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: Like they can do multiple things. It's a really I 340 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't say a great cornerback class in terms of freegency, 341 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: but that's where there is a little bit of depth 342 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: and they could certainly use a cornerback. So whether it's 343 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: a DJ Reid or a Paulson A Debo or a 344 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: Carlton Davis, Like there are five six, seven pretty high 345 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: quality cornerbacks to go after. And this is a team that, look, 346 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: if they just decide they want T Higgins, they could 347 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: decide to be that team to go get T Higgins 348 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: and just go over the top, whether it's with a 349 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: draft pick and money in his case probably or just 350 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: with money. 351 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I would like to see them build out 352 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 2: that offensive corps past Trey McBride and like sometimes Marvin 353 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: Harrison on a good day when he and Kyler have 354 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: actually spoken that week, let's. 355 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: Recap it quickly, Connor is there? Yeah, in the backfield, 356 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: the trade Benson McBride, the great young tight end, Marvin Harrison, 357 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: you're going to want to see him improve, Michael Wilson 358 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: a piece there. And Greg Dortch, who they they can't 359 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: keep but yet not a much. 360 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 2: You also Greg Dortch, the rare fan favorite in Arizona. 361 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 2: Everyone loves Greg dorts You always like, Yeah, keep keep 362 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: him as the five. You could use another, yes, they could. 363 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: You can see what I do like about this Cardinals roster, 364 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: even though they underwhelmed in my opinion last season. And 365 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 2: part of that too, I know we'll get into when 366 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: we talk about the coordinators and all of that coming 367 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: back for another year, but it it was you could 368 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 2: see where their holes were. It's almost like they were 369 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 2: showing their work. They've done this, They've been this team 370 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: that's done this the last two seasons. Is the first 371 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 2: year they had, you know, nobody, especially on defense, and 372 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: you're basically just trying stuff and seeing what sticks. 373 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 3: You're doing the walk around defense thing. 374 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 2: You're just doing trying whatever you can and see, okay, 375 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: what actually fits and who actually we have that we 376 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 2: can build around. And then the second year you could 377 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: start to see them a couple more pieces together. You 378 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 2: could see these players who they are going to keep, 379 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: some of the cornerstone pieces at James Connor, for example, 380 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 2: a Trey McBride really emerging as like heartbeats of this roster. 381 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 2: And this year you still see when you go over, 382 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: like you said, position by position, you could see where 383 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 2: they need to fill these holes. 384 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: Pretty much the whole defense except the secondary, I mean 385 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: the front seven and the defense. They need a lot 386 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: of work. 387 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and going back you probably can to only be 388 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: able to pick one really one of those. You could 389 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 2: probably plug the back end with some of these cheaper 390 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: veteran corners that'll be on the market. If I'm Jonathan Gannon, 391 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: and I invest in the front and I think a 392 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: lot of teams are going to be looking, especially at 393 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 2: what the Eagles have done. And Jonathan Gannon knows that 394 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: building intimately, like we mentioned, and I think that they're 395 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 2: going to look at that front seven and I think 396 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: that's where the money is going to go. 397 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 3: The interesting thing is, I think some of this, too 398 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 3: is premeditated. 399 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 2: When you're looking at all of the different books around 400 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: the league and you're looking at all the contracts and everything. 401 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 2: If you're an executive, you know what a lot of 402 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: people don't. I don't know what year the Cardinals as 403 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 2: an organization are in this spending window, but every three 404 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: years you have. 405 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: To take time. It's time to spend. They need to do. 406 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 2: Every three years you have to hit a minimum spending threshold. 407 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: And they certainly have not been spending over the last 408 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: couple of years. So this is something where they could 409 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: be ready to max out and they could have been 410 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: waiting for this moment for when these Eagles players fail. 411 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: I actually like this exercise. I just said that they're 412 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: going to be one of the most agressive even I 413 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: must want to rank like who I think is going 414 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: to be in the centerpieces of a lot of these 415 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: discussions this offseason, like the top ten teams, because I 416 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: think the Cardinals would be one of them. Now. They 417 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: have a lot of good continuity, as you mentioned with 418 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: the coaching staff. That's why it's a push year. They 419 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: have good continuity on offense. They're really bringing back almost 420 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: all their starters. Defense needs a lot of work. They 421 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: have a left tackle they love in Paris Johnson, a 422 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 1: center they love infro hole. You could certainly improve along 423 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: the edges with the offensive line, especially at right tackle. 424 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: Some decisions to make Kaisier White. I mean, you named 425 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: your kid after him. If you're the coordinator, you kind 426 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: of should bring him. I would think that's good leverage. 427 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: But who knows, they might look to upgrade. There actually 428 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: are a lot of good off ball linebackers available, so 429 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: that that's a possibility. There will Hernandez is a guy 430 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: that's been good for them and was hurt last year. 431 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: Maybe you bring him back and you're not losing many 432 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: good players. I mean, Baron Browning I think was the 433 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: only Cardinal on my top one oh one, and he 434 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: was a mid season trade acquisition that really didn't do well. 435 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: And I'm only putting m on the one oh one 436 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 1: just because he poss ye, he's never really produced. 437 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: I keep waiting for him to take that next step 438 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,239 Speaker 2: because you see, you see the tools, and I keep 439 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 2: waiting for him to put it together. 440 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: So they are in a really great position where the 441 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: kind of the world is their oyster and the Austin 442 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: Fork connection. I knew there was a reason I wrote 443 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 1: Simmons down. He was with Jeffrey Simmons in Tennessee as 444 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: the director of player personnel, and that's a player that 445 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: might be available. But I think you're absolutely right. They 446 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: could really use some linemen, and they could use edge guys, 447 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: and they could especially use like three down, you know, 448 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: just bigger like run stoppers. They are gonna be adding. 449 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: Maybe they're not all gonna be big splashes, but I 450 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: think there's gonna be some big splashes. I'm excited about 451 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. 452 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm always excited about the Cardinals bait when this 453 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 2: new regime came in because I really like the way 454 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 2: that they think. 455 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 3: I like the way that they game plan. 456 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 2: I like the way that they are super fluid and multidirectional, 457 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 2: multifunctional on offense and defense, even though they've been super 458 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 2: limited and personnel on defense. And I think that Drew 459 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 2: Petsing and Nick Rollis and them coming back as these 460 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: young offensive and defensive coordinators, Jonathan Gannon now having some 461 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 2: more head coaching experience under his belt. I think it's 462 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: all good things for Arizona. They just can't flail in 463 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: the middle of the season. They can't just lose steam because. 464 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 3: They had they had the NFC West. They had it. 465 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: They did and if you look at the whole picture, 466 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: they had the progress that they should have had. Like 467 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: this roster, like I was saying, especially on defense, was 468 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: not great. They've played about it was lacking. I think, yeah, 469 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: like they've played over their skis really so overall, I 470 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: like that it's been steady progress. You didn't think we 471 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: would be able to do this in under ten minutes. 472 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: You thought we'd honk too much. But we're having great 473 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: pace here. Let's take a quick break, just count it down. 474 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: You be back in a second. Back on NFL Daily 475 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: previewing the off season for the NFC West. Still in 476 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: the mix, I think as the best division in football. 477 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: I know they're not coming off their best season. Got 478 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: a lot of teams in this division where you would 479 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: say it wouldn't be that surprising if they were playing 480 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: in the division round. I think all four teams you 481 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: could say that. There aren't many divisions like that. We're 482 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: gonna go to the forty nine Ers, one of the 483 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: best teams in the NFL over the last decade, really 484 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: half decade, and coming off a brutal season. But they 485 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: have a lot going on this off season. Let's start 486 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: the clock here, Eric, forty three million dollars in cap 487 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: space already, and uh, you know, can can open up 488 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: more room? Uh inn extra three compicks. They've already redone 489 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 1: a lot of their deals that they've signed, so actually 490 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 1: they're a team that can't restructure too many guys. They've 491 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: they've they've gotten to the bank so many times. Fred 492 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: Warner is actually the one guy I think they can 493 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: go to the bank for and open up even more space. 494 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 3: But NFL Daily Star Fred Warner, Yeah. 495 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: They don't have a fifth round pick. I learned this. 496 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: I didn't know this because they quote unquote miscalculated the 497 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: salary cap last year. But they weren't found to have 498 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: done nothing wrong. They just miss calculated. Why is it 499 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: always the forty nine ers. 500 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 3: By the way, the wrong button on the calculator. 501 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about that. So they had their 502 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: fifth round pick taken away. My big question is how 503 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: does a team that needs to get younger get younger 504 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: in free agency, Because this is a team that's gonna 505 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: have to be a free agency. 506 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 2: They will, but I don't know that that's the best 507 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 2: spot to be in again with this free agency class. 508 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 2: And you know that's that's I think the biggest question, 509 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,479 Speaker 2: because they need some youth, they need some revitalization, they 510 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 2: need some energy. To me, when I look at the 511 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 2: forty nine ers and they've been such a powerhouse for 512 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: so many years, and really the aggressors to so many 513 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 2: teams across the entire league, not just the NFC West, 514 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: I see burnout. I see a team that is just 515 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 2: it's burnt out, that's tired, that really needs to commit 516 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 2: one way or another to either infusing with this draft 517 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 2: class and infusing with that kind of personnel and really 518 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: nailing that class to to kind of replace it or 519 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: eventually replace in the next two years or so some 520 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 2: of the aging stars that have been so productive for 521 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 2: them for so long, or again they're going to keep 522 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: patching this with older players, and I don't know in 523 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: this free agency class that that's necessarily the best thing 524 00:24:59,359 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 2: to do. 525 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: Say burnout and I just have the image of Kyle 526 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: Shanahanson's not just looking out into the This was a 527 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: burnt out team last year. Now I think they're gonna 528 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: at least talk a big game all off season of 529 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: like we're revived. We you know, we had a shorter 530 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: off season, like we're ready to come back. But how 531 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: do you infuse the team with youth when you're gonna 532 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: have to fill some real holes in free agency? And 533 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: that's by not going after the Leonard Floyd's and maybe 534 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: the I guess you Grossmatos wasn't like an older free agent. 535 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: They've they've had a tendency to go after older free 536 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: agents like Trent Williams. They're gonna have to find some 537 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: younger free agents that can play for them, Like if 538 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: it was a Diodengbo from Indianapolis some of the whether 539 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: it's Diami Brown not that they're probably going after a 540 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Thos a bad example some of the younger 541 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: free agents, because they absolutely will be going after free 542 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: agents to cut to address a number of news moves. 543 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lists some players I think are likely gone 544 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: from this team. Number one, Charvarius Ward. He says he 545 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: wants to leave. He's one of the best free agent 546 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: cornerbacks out there. Had personal tragh kind of a heartbreaking Yeah, 547 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: and he said it's really been hard for him to 548 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: be in California after the tragic loss of his kid. 549 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: You really feel for him. Talana Hufanga, they're pretty good 550 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: at safety right now. He's been injured after that All 551 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: Pro season. Probably gone. Javon Hargrave. They say they're either 552 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: going to cut him or he'll accept a pay cut 553 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: to stay. Most likely he'll hit free agency. And then 554 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: Aaron Banks, their guard who they mentioned earlier. Deebo Samuel 555 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: also is very likely to get traded if he doesn't 556 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: get cut. Leonard Floyd likely to get cut. So there's 557 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: a lot of players that had pretty big roles that 558 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: probably will not be on this team next year. 559 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's interesting there are some replacements that you 560 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: could see potentially taking over for some of those guys. 561 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 2: I know that they really love Hufanga, but he just 562 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 2: might have a pricier market than they're willing to pay. 563 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: Brown would probably be back starting for them in that case, 564 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 2: and then their receiving corps. That's where I have a 565 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: lot of questions. Actually, I mean everywhere on this roster. 566 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 2: I I have a lot of questions. But their receiving 567 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 2: corps is Brandon Ayuk, who significantly underwhelmed after signing that deal, 568 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 2: Juwan Jennings, Ricky Pier saw Jacob Cowing. 569 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: And then I think they're good there. Honestly, I'm not. 570 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: That's one position group, but. 571 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: They'll have to play different They're going to be playing differently. 572 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 2: They have to play differently. 573 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: They gotta get better playing in. 574 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 3: The past that those guys do have to get better. 575 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: But also they're becoming with those players, they're more of 576 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: a perimeter team than necessarily some of the like the 577 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 2: Yak Bros. Style that we saw with Debo, with Kittle, 578 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 2: with McCaffrey when he came in as a receiving threat 579 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 2: as well. They're just gonna have to shift their place 580 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: down now. I do think that brock Purty showed he 581 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 2: can be that type of a thrower at the beginning 582 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 2: of this season. I think he was making the most 583 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 2: of a sort of a sketchy situation up there with 584 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 2: some of the just alternating personnel, and he was throwing 585 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 2: the ball downfield in a way that we hadn't necessarily. 586 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 2: You know, there was a lot of chatter we I think, 587 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: we like brock Purty, but there's a lot of chatter 588 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: about can he actually do this? So that's where some 589 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 2: of the like new blood I guess will come from, 590 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 2: some of those younger receivers. I could see them drafting 591 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 2: a running back as well. 592 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 3: I mean, you can't. 593 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 2: I'm not saying Christian McCaffrey is like done for at all, 594 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 2: but that's a scary injury, and we see when he's 595 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 2: at his best he is the best. But I could 596 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 2: definitely see them getting younger and infusing a little bit 597 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 2: more in there too. Well. 598 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: It HiT's Kyle Shanahan, so he always loves to draft 599 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: a running back, whether it's in the you know, third round, 600 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: fourth round, fifth round. Grendo last year was a fourth 601 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: round pick, Jordan Mason. It was pretty good as a backup. 602 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: Really, Greg, What I'm curious about here with the forty 603 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 2: nine ers is do you think that they're maybe going 604 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,479 Speaker 2: to be stronger in the trade market than necessary they 605 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 2: would be in free agency. My colleague at the athletic 606 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: Matt Barrows. He actually sees them being interested in a 607 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: Miles Garrett getting on the phone for a Miles Garrett. 608 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 2: I know that Miles Garrett is like again, another older player, 609 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,239 Speaker 2: but he's Miles freaking Garrett. So but I wonder if 610 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 2: that's where they're kind of maybe looking to just infuse 611 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 2: other personnel into this roster, just to do something a 612 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 2: little different, to shake it things up a little bit, 613 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 2: move the furniture around a bit. 614 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: I think it makes sense for them to go big 615 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: on defense. When you look at their offense, it's all 616 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: coming back basically except for Aaron Banks and Debo, but 617 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: they've really prepared for the Debo. Defense, to me is 618 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: almost a bigger concern from a team building perspective. That 619 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: defensive line that they were known for year after year 620 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: really calcified. I mean, even when Hargrave was healthy, they 621 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: were thinner than before. But then Hargrave got hurt and 622 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: suddenly it was Nick Bosa in three or four replacement 623 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: level veterans. So I look at both their lines as 624 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: something they could really stand to improve. They've never really 625 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: invested like a ton of resources outside of Trent Williams 626 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: and you know, some early ist draft picks, but not 627 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: a ton. I really feel like they need to rejuvenate 628 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: their lines, ideally with draft picks to get younger. But 629 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: maybe maybe it'll be with a big time player. And 630 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: it's a theme with all these conversations that if it's 631 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: not Garrett like, it could be a different edge like 632 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: a like a Trey Hendrick center. 633 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and then but I mean in free agency 634 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 2: they will have they will be competitive. I think for 635 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 2: some of the guys, the Josh Schwetz that that kind 636 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: of a player. At the same time, like, we can't 637 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 2: forget that Bob sala is back there a defensive coordinators, 638 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: So they're going to go back to that sort of 639 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 2: og wide nine that they were playing. So they need 640 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 2: to add at least one more strong, if not very strong, 641 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 2: edge rusher and probably draft somebody to eventually, you know, 642 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: fill in once they enter a world without Nick Bosa. 643 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 2: You're not going to obviously replace him one to one, 644 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 2: but you got to at least start onboarding somebody to 645 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: take maybe some snaps eventually if you need to. 646 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 3: And they also don't need a really. 647 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 2: Stout, strong, aggressive, disruptive defensive tackle like just because those 648 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 2: edges are what everyone looks at in the wide nine. 649 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 2: You mentioned this, You know, some of the personnel shifting 650 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 2: that they did on the interior the last couple of 651 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 2: years really hurt them. And they absolutely need a disruptive 652 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 2: like three tech or like a nose hybrid player in 653 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 2: order to really make that thing. 654 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: Saying they have a lot of needs, I mean, their 655 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: best defensive tackle right now is Malik Collins. Second best 656 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: is like Jordan Elliott. They don't they don't even have 657 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: a second EDG Dresher. I guess it's your tur Gross Moados, 658 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: but they could cut him. In addition to Leonard Floyd, 659 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: who I mentioned, I fully expect will get cut this 660 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: off season. One name I didn't mention that I should 661 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: have in terms of free agents is Drake green Law. 662 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: And the word is that, yeah, your boy, Bob Sala 663 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: wants him back. That's going to be a tricky contract 664 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: because if you remember, he tore his achilles during the 665 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and he returned last year and for the 666 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: three quarters he would on the field. He actually looked 667 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: like the best linebacker in football for the three quarters. 668 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: They're like, wow, he's over the achilles, But he quickly 669 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: reinjured his calf, which is, you know, in the same area, 670 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: didn't play the rest of the season, and will be 671 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: someone I think teams that run this defense across the 672 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: league will be looking at. So he won't necessarily be 673 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: easy to keep. So they they have a lot going 674 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: on this offseason. It's it's gonna be tricky. Is John 675 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: Lynch gonna just be their GM forever? Does he? Not 676 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,479 Speaker 1: so much would they get rid of him, but more 677 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: like does he want the job forever? He a former 678 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: announcer and stuff. Here's some whispers he might not be 679 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: there forever. 680 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 2: So that's interesting, Yeah, because I honestly, when I always 681 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 2: look at the power structure up there, everything goes through 682 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan and the owner. 683 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: So that's where all the more reason to think, like 684 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: maybe John Lynch isn't there forever, even if it's his decision, 685 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: like he's not the one running the show. 686 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is an interesting question. And then should be 687 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 2: noted too that Josh Williams, who is kind of his 688 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 2: number two out there, is in the final list interviews 689 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 2: for that Jaguars GM job. So is there a contingency plan? 690 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 2: This is they have sort of one foot in their 691 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 2: previous era and one foot that needs to step into 692 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 2: their new era. And I think that's really fascinating for 693 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 2: them because any sort of pivot into a half measure 694 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 2: I don't think is going to. 695 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: Work right, because they actually have drafted some players to 696 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: prepare for this day, Ronardo Green, leonor Malik Mustafa in 697 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: the second half. I love some some good young players, 698 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: obviously Brock Purdy, you know, some of their wide receivers. 699 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: And yet who are their best players. It's it's Trent Williams. 700 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: It's George Kittle, it's Nick Bosa, it's Fred Warner. It's 701 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: still all those guys, and they're not going anywhere. I 702 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: should mention before we go to the next team. The 703 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: word from the forty nine ers is they do expect 704 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: Trent Williams to return to the team next year, and 705 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: John Lynch made it clear they are welcoming him back 706 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: under his big salary. So that that's big off season 707 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: news for them. Let's wrap up with them. 708 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 3: Nicely done. 709 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 2: That's an experienced veteran host right there. Incredible. Yeah, So 710 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 2: my big question for the Rams is actually kind of 711 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 2: interestingly similar to the forty nine ers, which is will 712 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 2: they keep one foot split into their previous Super Bowl 713 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 2: era with a couple of their aging stars, not just 714 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford, but also Rob Havenstein and Tyler Higbee. 715 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: Or will they. 716 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 2: Completely move into this readier to win sooner than expected 717 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 2: era of young players because they've nailed the last two 718 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: draft classes. Obviously, the question starts and ends with Matthew Stafford. 719 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 2: We've talked so much about Matthew Stafford that I don't 720 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 2: really think we need to do a ton more other 721 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 2: than sort of maybe refreshing that conversation. But they if 722 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 2: they do decide to step into this new era, they're 723 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 2: gonna have holes to fill at both tackle spots, right. 724 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 2: They're gonna need a bona fide tight end because Sean 725 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 2: McVay is tired of rotating three tight ends who are 726 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 2: like subpar, and they're gonna need a new number two 727 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 2: receiver to be in tandem with puku Akua. 728 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: And a number three receiver. 729 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 3: And a number three, number four and a number four. 730 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: Received Marcus Robinson, who was productive for them, and too 731 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: Too at Well are both free agents in addition to 732 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup expecting to get traded or cut if they 733 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: can't find a trade from more than anything. When I 734 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 1: was looking at the Rams roster and situation, they have 735 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: thirty seven million dollars in cap space, which is which 736 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: is a ton, which is more than enough, and they 737 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: can open up some more. They do not have a 738 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: second rap pick. More than anything, I thought, Man, it's 739 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: hard to rebuild the team on the fly. What are 740 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: you laughing at? 741 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 2: My advice to the Rams is, don't go spend that 742 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 2: money yet, because their second second year players that like 743 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 2: ten of them start for them are gonna come do 744 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 2: and a couple of them, including Steve Avula, Puka, Kobe Turner, 745 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 2: they're gonna be due Byron Young Doe for early extensions. 746 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 2: And they just started that, like that spending window, that 747 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 2: three year window, the minimum threshold window. They just started 748 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 2: it last season and they did not spend other than 749 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 2: on a guard that does not play for them currently, 750 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 2: which we'll get to in a minute. 751 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 3: But my advice is, don't go spend in free agency. 752 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 2: Don't go by because they don't have a good track 753 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 2: record when they actually go out and acquire veteran free agents. 754 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 2: That third tier is where their money is made. There, 755 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 2: the picking up cheap veterans, the Achello, Witherspoons, some of 756 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 2: the guys they brought in in twenty twenty three to 757 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 2: help supplement that young. 758 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: Marcus Rabbins rising, guys. 759 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 2: Like that, role players when they've gone out and actually 760 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 2: spent big money on free agents. And I fully expect them, 761 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 2: by the way, to overhaul this process, similar to when 762 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 2: they overhauled their draft process a couple of years ago 763 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 2: under James Gladstone. I feel like they have to just 764 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 2: avoid it right now because it's Alan Robinson, it's Bobby Wagner, 765 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 2: it's Jonah Jackson, who again they have to figure out 766 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 2: what to do with. That's a three year, fifty one 767 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 2: million dollar guard. If you cut him or trade him 768 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 2: before June first, it's an eleven and a half million 769 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 2: dollar in dead money hit and then you have dead 770 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 2: money in the you know, in the coming year too, 771 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 2: And it's basically like you're not playing him, So what 772 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 2: are you gonna do? 773 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: What do you? What do you write? They would save 774 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: nine million dollars to the cap at least you know 775 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: you're spending a lot of cash. If they spread that 776 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: out as a post to June first, you mentioned Hanstein, 777 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: they would save nine million dollars if you cut him, 778 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: they're left tackle. Alerc Jackson, an undrafted player who's played 779 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: pretty well for them, is a free agent. Do you 780 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: think they might keep him or no? Because he actually 781 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: is the Is he my top tackle available? Because he's 782 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 1: young and he's been serviceable and there just aren't guys 783 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: like that. Cam Robinson I believe I have ranked ahead 784 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: of him, but Alaric Jackson, He's. 785 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 3: Gonna have a market. That's the thing. 786 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 2: I don't think they're willing to be super competitive in 787 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 2: that market, but they don't have a plan behind it. 788 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: They have huge needs. That's the thing. It shows how 789 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: hard it is, and that's what I was trying to 790 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: get to, that how hard it is to rebuild on 791 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: the fly. Because their last couple drafts could not have 792 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 1: gone better. Practically everyone they've drafted has been an offensive 793 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,720 Speaker 1: or de defensive. Rookie of the Year finalists. Pukinakua, Steve Avuola, 794 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,720 Speaker 1: he wasn't a finalist, but he could have been, Kobe Turner, 795 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,479 Speaker 1: Braden Fisk, and Jared Verse. All these like massive hits. 796 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: Although they are missing their second round pick this year 797 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: because they use that to trade up for Braiden Fists, 798 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: so it's a good, good job that you hit on 799 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: that guy. I hate doing yeh, I get it. Two 800 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: picks for one guys. 801 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 2: For a defensive Rookie of the Year finalists, you got 802 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 2: to hit probably would have. 803 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: Won it, depending on you gotta hit. It's very risky, 804 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: and they did it. They do have an extra third 805 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 1: round compensatory pick because Raheem Morris took that job with 806 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: Atlanta and as part of the Rooney rule that that's 807 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: something they get, so that that's a positive. But man, 808 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: despite all that, they have some massive issues cornerback. They 809 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: don't really have cornerstone guys to build around linebackers. They 810 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: literally just don't even have any linebackers. You mentioned tackle 811 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: wide receivers like and and then oh, by the way, quarterbacks. 812 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: So despite all of the good things that they've done, 813 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 1: and they could have won the Super Bowl in the 814 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 1: last couple of years potentially if things had gone right. 815 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: They weren't in the top three or fourteens, but they 816 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 1: were in kind of that six, seven eight range when 817 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 1: the season ended. It didn't happen for them, and they 818 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: still have a lot to work on. 819 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 2: I would say for the Rams, if I were them, 820 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 2: I would operate. I would go into this off season 821 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,439 Speaker 2: as if they have like literally zero players at left 822 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 2: or right tackle. And I say that because they are 823 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 2: simply not going to get into a high dollar, super 824 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,919 Speaker 2: competitive market with Aleric Jackson. If if he wants to stay, 825 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 2: and if like they want to try to extend him 826 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 2: before free agency hits, if if it's a good fit, 827 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 2: if he liked you know, there's all these other variables 828 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 2: that could come into play. 829 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: But I have to work ahead a little bit. 830 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 2: I expect these moves, but I expect him to have 831 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 2: a robust market, and it's just not something as of 832 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 2: my last understanding and my last reporting on this, it's 833 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 2: not something that they're gonna like get into the highest 834 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 2: levels of salary with him. And then Rob Havenstein's entering 835 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 2: the last y're on his deal now. The right the 836 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 2: offensive line was far less functional statistically, and you could 837 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 2: see it a Olliver the tape when he was not 838 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 2: on the field versus when he was on the field. 839 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 2: But he's had trouble staying on the field for the 840 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 2: last couple of seasons, and he is one of those 841 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,760 Speaker 2: players along with the Tyler Higbee, who are again similar 842 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 2: to Cooper Cup representative of that previous era of this 843 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 2: RAMS roster when they have showed no qualms about moving 844 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 2: forward into this new phase. But I would operate as 845 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 2: if they have no tackles because I don't think their 846 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 2: backups are good options. 847 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 3: War McClendon. 848 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 2: And then it was Joe Noteboom on the left side 849 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 2: who was just not a good again, another free agent 850 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 2: signing that they paid that they should not have paid, 851 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 2: and then became a backup left tackle and it just 852 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 2: it didn't work out for them. And so they have 853 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 2: to operate as if they have a surplus at guard, 854 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 2: which they do because now bo Limmer will probably be 855 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 2: their their full time starter moving forward, and he's a 856 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 2: fifth round pick from last year. He started most of 857 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,240 Speaker 2: the season, played well other than the last two snaps 858 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 2: of that Eagles game when he fell for Jalen Carter's 859 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 2: fake step, and are set at left and right guard. 860 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 2: They need those tackles and that to me is the 861 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 2: absolute number one priority. 862 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: And it also think quarterback would be high up there 863 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: though if they don't have one. 864 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 3: But well, I'm glad they all these other things. 865 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 2: Glad that you jumped in to finish my sentence before 866 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 2: and actually finished it, but that the number one thing 867 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 2: that they have to do is figure out what that 868 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 2: left and right tackle financial structure is going to look 869 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,959 Speaker 2: like in tandem with whatever their plan is for either 870 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 2: a year to year situation with Matthew Stafford, a two 871 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 2: year that's front loaded with him, or or trading him. 872 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 1: I think they could be Why not be a Kirk team. 873 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: They're kind of a sneaky then the Weeds. Why not 874 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 1: because if they're if they have all these other issues 875 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: and they're still sort of rebuilding, and they seem very 876 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,720 Speaker 1: open to moving on from Matthew Stafford and maybe getting 877 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: younger too, with some picks that they could get back 878 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 1: for him. I think this feels like an in between year, 879 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: and Jimmy g seems like the most likely guy with 880 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 1: a pick potentially, but Kirk Cousins is potentially another. 881 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 2: I think that they watched him play football, and they 882 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 2: know Raheem Morris and Zach Robinson really well, and I 883 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 2: don't think anyone is rushing to endorse that situation, but 884 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 2: I do think that a bridge quarterback could be a 885 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 2: solution for them if they do decide to move on 886 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 2: from Matthew Stafford, which again, the best way that they 887 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 2: stay competitive is. 888 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 3: Getting a deal done with Alerc Jackson. 889 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 2: I'm not sure they're going to be able to do that, 890 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 2: and also getting a deal done with Matthew Stafford and 891 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,760 Speaker 2: kind of just running this group back for another shot 892 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 2: and figuring out what you're going to do with Jona Jackson, 893 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 2: and then maybe bringing in a run stopping, disruptive defensive 894 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 2: tackle who you don't actually need to play a full 895 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 2: snapshare because you've got the middle of that short up 896 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 2: on pass rushed down. 897 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, their linebackers get picked on. They need some young 898 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: cornerstones at cornerback. It's just a lot. There are a 899 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,800 Speaker 1: million kind of bridge quarterbacks available though, so that is 900 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: one thing. There's a lot of They've got that going 901 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:03,439 Speaker 1: for to justin feel it's a jamis you know a Mariota. 902 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones, I think he really great fit. 903 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: Then draft a second round quarterback or something with your 904 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 1: Stafford pick, you know, you know, some sort of combination. 905 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, And they have Darius Williams in the second year 906 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 2: of a three year deal. So and he played really 907 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 2: well down this backstretch when after he came back from 908 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 2: the hamstring injury. But they usually only pay one corner 909 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 2: at a time, so I would expect them to go 910 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 2: deep into the draft in that position. They tried that 911 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 2: three years ago. None of those picks really panned out. 912 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 2: Kobe Durant is solid, but he was in a rotational 913 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 2: role by the end of last season. 914 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 3: They're good. I think they're good. 915 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 2: They're set at safety because of some of the again, 916 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 2: some of the drafting that they did and some of 917 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 2: the undrafted free agents that I brought. They brought in 918 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 2: Jayalen McCullough and then Cam Kitchens was their third round pick. 919 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 2: It's interesting because they do have so many questions that 920 00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 2: inside linebacker yet again, and they they were the team 921 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:05,240 Speaker 2: that infamously chipped out Ernest Jones, probably too early, you know, weird, 922 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 2: but they did it because they believed in Omar Spates 923 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 2: and Omar Spates really emerged. 924 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 3: But they need a second line back. 925 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 1: We ended the NFC West recap the only way we 926 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 1: could with an in depth Omar Spates discussion. I love it. 927 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: That was the NFC West. I keep like going through 928 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 1: these divisions and thinking, man, this team's got a lot 929 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 1: of to do. Man, this team's going to be in 930 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: the mix. Like it's a big off season. Every every 931 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 1: team thinks they're having a big off season, that's what 932 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,840 Speaker 1: it's just, it's just not easy. Like these four teams especially, 933 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: I think the Seahawks are in a kind of a 934 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: medium position, that the Cardinals are in a kind of 935 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 1: a great position where where you want to be, where 936 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 1: it's all push, all additive, Whereas the forty nine ers 937 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 1: in the Rams are having to do a lot of 938 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: different things, holding on while pushing forward at the same time. 939 00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: And let's need John Lynch, monte Asin fort and yes, 940 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: John Schneider, They're all be earning their salaries this offseason. 941 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 3: It is interesting. 942 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 2: We presented a lot of problems right for them to solve. 943 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 2: But it kind of feels like all of these teams, 944 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 2: any one of them, are maybe one or two correct 945 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 2: decisions away from being ultra competitive again if they already, 946 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 2: if they weren't already. And so that I think is 947 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 2: the sign of a really strong NFC West. It's a 948 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 2: sign of really strong team building for the most part 949 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 2: all around. 950 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 1: I I'm always fascinated by this division. That's it for 951 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,479 Speaker 1: our NFC West off season. 952 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,839 Speaker 3: We did it in time, We're alive, plenty of time. 953 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,359 Speaker 1: We're going to keep these off season previews going. We're 954 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 1: going to have some NFC South talk coming up, but 955 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: this is it for today's show. Look, when we're criticizing 956 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 1: Mantyasen for it's regular season, that didn't make any sense. 957 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't criticizing him. 958 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 3: We like him.