WEBVTT - LeBron's decision, Wemby's evolution, Kuminga's next team, Brunson's ranking & more | NBA Mailbag

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<v Speaker 1>The volume. All right, welcome to him tonight. You're at

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<v Speaker 1>the volume Heavy Friday, everybody, hope Bob. You guys had

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<v Speaker 1>a great week. We're actually recording this on a Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm leaving on Thursday to go to my brother's wedding

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<v Speaker 1>in Houston, the last TIMP wedding, and then all of

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<v Speaker 1>us siblings will have officially been married. Very excited to

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<v Speaker 1>get to spend some time with my family. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen them in a while since obviously we moved to Denver.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're recording this on a Wednesday, so obviously, as

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<v Speaker 1>of right now, Lebron James has not signed. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a couple Lebron related questions, but I don't think they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to matter too much as to whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron signs. By then, I am bringing my equipment with

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<v Speaker 1>me to Houston, so if Lebron signs, will obviously react

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<v Speaker 1>to it when it happens. But we got lots of

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<v Speaker 1>interesting questions from around the league from you guys. As always,

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<v Speaker 1>us a lot. All right, let's talk some basketball. First question,

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<v Speaker 1>assuming Lebron hasn't signed by the time you do this,

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<v Speaker 1>the longer this goes, is there any chance that the

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers come back to the table. Lebron obviously announced he

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<v Speaker 1>would play elsewhere, But if the Lakers came back to

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<v Speaker 1>him and said they want him to be a part

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<v Speaker 1>of the team, is there any chance that fence could

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<v Speaker 1>be mended? And obviously, regardless at the time you guys

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<v Speaker 1>hear this of whether or not Lebron is signed, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the answers know here, and that's why it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>really matter as to whether or not he's signed. I

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<v Speaker 1>think egos have just been bruised too much as part

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<v Speaker 1>of this process, and I think I think it comes

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<v Speaker 1>down to two things. On the Lakers side of it,

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<v Speaker 1>like it is deeper than just the Lebron piece. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a very clear intentional effort to completely overturn the

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<v Speaker 1>roster and the two main guys that I think are

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<v Speaker 1>key revealing pieces here are actually I'll bump it up

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<v Speaker 1>to three one. Choosing a Sondro Mama Kalasvili over a

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<v Speaker 1>Ruey Hachimura. They both made about the same amount of money.

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<v Speaker 1>You're basically saying, rather than continuity, and a guy that,

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<v Speaker 1>especially on the weak side off of Luca, can just

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<v Speaker 1>shoot the shit out of the basketball, you're straight up saying, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, mom, who's a different player. He's better at something,

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<v Speaker 1>better rebound or better at putting the ball on the floor,

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<v Speaker 1>not as good as a standstill three point shooter. They're

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<v Speaker 1>different players. But it's just you saying, like, regardless of continuity,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take a gamble on this dude because we

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<v Speaker 1>just want something different. Another example like Marcus Smart. Marcus

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<v Speaker 1>Smart was very clearly by every statistical measure last year

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<v Speaker 1>the most valuable Lakers role player beyond Lebron, Austin and Luca,

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<v Speaker 1>and to let him walk for that deal in Houston,

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<v Speaker 1>which I Gain. I don't don't remember off the top

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<v Speaker 1>of my head. I think it was like two years,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve million or whatever it was. That two years fourteen million,

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<v Speaker 1>That six or seven million a year to let Marcus

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<v Speaker 1>walk instead of bringing him back is very clearly like

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<v Speaker 1>a we want to be done with that era of

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers basketball. Jackson Hayes. Jackson Hayes being a member of

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<v Speaker 1>the Utah Jazz right now instead of a Los Angeles Laker.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is another kind of a bell Weather

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<v Speaker 1>for that sort of idea. So, like, it's very clear

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers were like beyond just we want Lebron out

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<v Speaker 1>of the picture. It's like Luca and Austin are our guys.

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<v Speaker 1>We want a completely new slate beyond that point. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>other than the young players in like Bronnie James and

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<v Speaker 1>Adu Thierro that have been around. But like that was

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<v Speaker 1>abundantly clear in their strategy this offseason. It wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>a we don't want Lebron anymore. It was we don't

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<v Speaker 1>want anything associated. We want to palette cleanse that entire

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<v Speaker 1>era of Lakers basketball now. I think that's a little

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculous if you if you dig into it, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about, you know, guys who like a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that grew Hutch Murro made a Western Conference finals run

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<v Speaker 1>with the Lakers, right like you if you look into

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<v Speaker 1>those last couple of years, they won fifty plus games

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<v Speaker 1>each of those seasons, they won a playoff series, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's rare to win a playoff series, especially in the

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<v Speaker 1>Western Conference. So like it's one of those things where

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<v Speaker 1>like I think this idea where the Lakers brass was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, ugh, like we're done with that era

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<v Speaker 1>of Lakers basketball is a little weird to me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>surprised that they didn't value any of the culture from

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<v Speaker 1>the previous guys like a deeper than Lebron, like a

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<v Speaker 1>guy like Marcus Smart, who was clearly a very important

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<v Speaker 1>player to the culture that the Lakers were trying to build.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's abundantly clear on the Lakers side that they

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<v Speaker 1>were just kind of done with the whole thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>then on the Lebron side, you got to think about

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<v Speaker 1>it this way, like Lebron is at worst the second

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<v Speaker 1>best player of all time and a player who currently

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<v Speaker 1>is at worst a top twenty player in the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>in the regular season, and at worst, a top ten

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<v Speaker 1>playoff player. Like, that's what we're talking about with Lebron.

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<v Speaker 1>He's still extremely good at basketball while also having the

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<v Speaker 1>deep resume of a guy who has a legitimate goat case.

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<v Speaker 1>So to be in his situation and to have a

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<v Speaker 1>basketball team literally go like no, thanks, dude, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, like I know that the reporting around it

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<v Speaker 1>was different. There's you know, like a lot of posturing

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<v Speaker 1>in the public eye, and Lebron did get the final

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<v Speaker 1>word by saying he was leaving. But like between Lebron's

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<v Speaker 1>ego in the whole situation and straight up being told

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<v Speaker 1>by a basketball team essentially that like, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>ready to move on without you and basically everyone that

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<v Speaker 1>was associated with your era of basketball, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>just has caused a situation where there's just too much

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<v Speaker 1>damage done. And like I said this in the Wednesday show,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean it like it's sad. It's sad because

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<v Speaker 1>I want to watch the Lakers from March with Walker

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<v Speaker 1>Kessler instead of DeAndre Ayton, in a deeper bench with

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<v Speaker 1>more athletic you know, win plays. I want to watch Lebron,

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<v Speaker 1>Luca and Austin continue to build chemistry together and figure

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<v Speaker 1>out how to be the team, like a better version

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<v Speaker 1>even than what we saw in March. I want That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I wanted, And I think it would have been

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<v Speaker 1>an awesome end to Lebron's career to just have like

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<v Speaker 1>a good nine to ten year stretch in a Lakers jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>The Lakers would still have had room to build for

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<v Speaker 1>the future in the form of Walker Kessler and the

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<v Speaker 1>draft picks camcar and a do Thiero, and the development

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<v Speaker 1>of Bronnie James, who I know they value internally, Like

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<v Speaker 1>there there was a happy middle ground here where everyone

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<v Speaker 1>involved could have achieved their goals and the behavior and

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<v Speaker 1>I said it on Wednesday, and I mean it, like

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't just all the Lakers not valuing Lebron, Like

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff with Rich Paul definitely started to strain the relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot more complicated than it appears on the surface,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot of people to blame. But ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>it's sad because what you're seeing is is you know

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<v Speaker 1>two entities that would be better off with each other,

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<v Speaker 1>that are going to be worse off without each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and at least in terms of risk, like there's a

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<v Speaker 1>chance where Lebron goes off and and he finds a

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<v Speaker 1>team that fits really well and that he has a

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<v Speaker 1>very successful season. But I just think his chances are

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<v Speaker 1>as good as, if not better, in LA and it

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<v Speaker 1>just is kind of sad that it's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>work out in that way. Next question, If you ignore

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<v Speaker 1>the championship and the fact that it's the Knicks, don't

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<v Speaker 1>you think that it would be an amazing basketball fit

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<v Speaker 1>for Lebron Kat brunts in og and McHale. That's so

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<v Speaker 1>much shooting in so much space. Lebron like the ball movement,

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<v Speaker 1>he can play on in all ball, he can play

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<v Speaker 1>all on and off the ball. The competitive edge, an

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<v Speaker 1>older team that I like would be really fun for him.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a good one for us because we

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<v Speaker 1>know Lebron's not going to the Knicks regardless of whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not he signs. It's more of just a philosophical

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<v Speaker 1>conversation about basketball fit. My initial impression at first was, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when I first heard this idea going around

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<v Speaker 1>when Rich Paul had the whiteboard incident, and he talked

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<v Speaker 1>about how like, if the Knicks hadn't won the title,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd be going to New York. One of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that I originally thought it was like, oh, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron kind of they kind of have like their starting

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<v Speaker 1>five like really ironed out right. And when I started

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<v Speaker 1>to think more about it, I think og and Andobe

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<v Speaker 1>because I think when it comes to positions, it more

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<v Speaker 1>has to do with what jobs you can do defensively

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<v Speaker 1>than what you can do offensively. And I think Ogannobi

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<v Speaker 1>is a versatile enough defender to guard enough positions on

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<v Speaker 1>the perimeter that he can easily be a three. And

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we saw over the years the Knicks go

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<v Speaker 1>to lineups at times that had Karl Anthony Towns and

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<v Speaker 1>Mitchell Robinson at the floor on the floor at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time with og and Andobe at the three. So

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<v Speaker 1>in this theoretical scenario, like a guy like Josh Hart

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<v Speaker 1>or a guy like Michael Bridges moves to the bench

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<v Speaker 1>and you go with like an og Lebron cat front court.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do think it would be a wonderful fit.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you start to dig into it, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>like the off ball action stuff with kat as a

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<v Speaker 1>folk rum that we saw in over the course of

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<v Speaker 1>this playoff run, where Lebron could be both good off

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<v Speaker 1>the ball in that action and also as the folk

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<v Speaker 1>rum while Kat's running off ball screen for other players.

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<v Speaker 1>There's I really think when you dig into the backup

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<v Speaker 1>ball handling piece, like the Knicks kind of pieced that

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<v Speaker 1>together with a bunch of different guys with Jose Alvarado,

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<v Speaker 1>with Michale Bridges, Ogana Noobi would get his reps, and

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<v Speaker 1>Karl Anthony Towns would run a lot of that off

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<v Speaker 1>ball action when Brunson was off the floor. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think it would have been really helpful for the Knicks

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<v Speaker 1>to just have like a rock solid ball handler as

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<v Speaker 1>like a secondary ball handler off of Jalen Brunson, which

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron would just seamlessly fit into. There's the I talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this a little bit with the Joki fit, but

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<v Speaker 1>like I have always thought about Lebron's post prime as

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<v Speaker 1>being weirdly impressive in terms of his rim frequency and

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<v Speaker 1>rim efficiency given that he's been playing with non shooting fives,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just think watching Lebron play in a system

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<v Speaker 1>where they can actually truly space the floor, whether it

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<v Speaker 1>was the Denver situation that I kind of talked about

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<v Speaker 1>in recent weeks or this Knixt situation with Karl Anthony Towns.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think think Lebron would absolutely annihilate teams at

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<v Speaker 1>the rim if they could actually space the floor with

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<v Speaker 1>him looking to drive the basketball. So like, I just

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<v Speaker 1>think in general, it would be a really natural fit

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<v Speaker 1>on both ends of the floor. And again it's never

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen. But in terms of the actual basketball fit,

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<v Speaker 1>I would put it above Miami. I'd put it above Philly,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd put it above Cleveland. I really think only Denver

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<v Speaker 1>and Golden State are the two teams that I think

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron would have a more natural basketball fit than those

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<v Speaker 1>other teams. One of the things I talked about over

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<v Speaker 1>the course of the last couple of weeks is the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of like Lebron being in a situation where he

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<v Speaker 1>can be Lebron, you know, Like I know Lebron. I

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<v Speaker 1>knew the whole time, even when everyone was dragging him

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<v Speaker 1>through the mud last year. I knew Lebron was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to do what he did in March.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew he could be like, I'm versatile enough and

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<v Speaker 1>competitive enough and want to win enough to change my

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<v Speaker 1>game to fit this like smaller role as a as

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of a Swiss army knife on both ends

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<v Speaker 1>of the floor for the Lakers, and he showed that

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<v Speaker 1>I never thought that was going to be a problem

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<v Speaker 1>for him. That doesn't mean necessarily that it's the best

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<v Speaker 1>use of his resources, though, right Like Lebron, what I

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<v Speaker 1>like about the idea of like a theoretical Denver fit

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<v Speaker 1>which isn't going to happen, or a theoretical Golden State fit,

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<v Speaker 1>which I don't think is going to happen, but is

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<v Speaker 1>a possibilities. At least at the time of this recording,

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about it as more of like a like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a situation where Lebron and what he's great

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<v Speaker 1>at still at age forty two, really fits what this

0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.160
<v Speaker 1>team is trying to do. So you can have not

0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.960
<v Speaker 1>only the team have a great amount of success, but

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<v Speaker 1>also watched Lebron be a very happy version of himself

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<v Speaker 1>because he's being used appropriately, And that's kind of why

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<v Speaker 1>I was drawn to that specific kind of idea. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Knicks are a similar idea and that

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<v Speaker 1>I think it would be a really natural fit for Lebron.

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<v Speaker 1>Next question. As a it's been really interesting to see

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<v Speaker 1>the Jonathan Kaminga saga continue. Seems like he still wants

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<v Speaker 1>a bigger role than anyone wants to give him. In

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<v Speaker 1>your opinion, which team is his best fit right now?

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<v Speaker 1>What role is he best suited for on the court,

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<v Speaker 1>and how do you think that aligns or doesn't with

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<v Speaker 1>what he wants or envisions for himself. So it's tricky

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<v Speaker 1>because there's not really the trouble with Jonathan Kaminga in

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<v Speaker 1>his specific skill set is it's hard to find a

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<v Speaker 1>team that is competitive and looking to win that could

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<v Speaker 1>really actually use his skill set, you know, ironically, a

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<v Speaker 1>team that hasn't been brought up. I was trying to think, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is a team out there that's like in position

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<v Speaker 1>to win, has need of a player at his position group,

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<v Speaker 1>but that also would like throw him the ball sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>and let him do some work. And ironically, the team

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<v Speaker 1>I came up with was Denver in the sense that

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<v Speaker 1>they have some injury vulnerabilities at the power forward spot

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<v Speaker 1>and Jonathan I think would fit rich nicely as like

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<v Speaker 1>a baseline cutter off of Nikole Jokic. And that's a

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<v Speaker 1>team that's actually looking for more ways to initiate offense,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when they get away from the Murray jokicch two

0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:12.079
<v Speaker 1>man game. The problem is is, like I don't think

0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Kaminga can play the three alongside Aaron Gordon, So like

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<v Speaker 1>he's a bench role in that specific case, which is

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<v Speaker 1>why he's not looking there. He's looking at some of

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<v Speaker 1>these other options because he's looking for a place that

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<v Speaker 1>he can start. You want to know why there's Lakers

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<v Speaker 1>buzz there. Rob Polinka has been known to give promises

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<v Speaker 1>to players in free agency. I could see universe where

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Kaminga gets a promise from Rob that he gets

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<v Speaker 1>the starting power forward spot as part of a of

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<v Speaker 1>a deal. And so but here's the thing. If he

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<v Speaker 1>starts in La or even if he ends up going

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<v Speaker 1>to a place like Cleveland, whether they start him at

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<v Speaker 1>the three or whatever they decide to do, you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about spread, pick and roll teams with multiple ball handlers

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<v Speaker 1>that are gonna put him in situations where he's a

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<v Speaker 1>play finisher. And if you're a play finisher on the

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<v Speaker 1>court alongside Walker Kessler, or you're a play finisher on

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<v Speaker 1>the court alongside Evan Mobley Jared Allen, you are a

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<v Speaker 1>spot up shooter basically in a spread pick and roll system,

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<v Speaker 1>and similar to what we were talking about with Lebron,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's a diminishing return on a Jonathan Kaminga if

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<v Speaker 1>he's being used as a spot up shooter. So Jonathan's

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<v Speaker 1>in this weird situation where like ironically, what he really

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<v Speaker 1>needs is to go to a team that's willing to

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<v Speaker 1>give him the ball a lot and just let him

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<v Speaker 1>have an opportunity to kind of build out that side

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<v Speaker 1>of his game. But it's hard to find those opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>because they're developing other younger players that have shown more

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<v Speaker 1>promise and are especially are young enough to have that

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<v Speaker 1>like plausible like maybe they can become this better version

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<v Speaker 1>of themselves. So it's hard to be like take the

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<v Speaker 1>ball away from that player and give it to a

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Kaminga who now has been in the league for

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<v Speaker 1>half a decade, right, So, like it's a very tricky

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<v Speaker 1>situation that he's in. The best case scenario for Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>right now is a situation like that Laker situation because

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<v Speaker 1>he would get minutes. They're so they lack depth at

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<v Speaker 1>that power forward spot, and if you really dig into

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<v Speaker 1>some of the specifics, I think Soandro Mamo kailash VILLI

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<v Speaker 1>will play some four, but I bet you he ends

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<v Speaker 1>up playing a lot at the backup five because Keavon

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<v Speaker 1>Looney I don't think is a great fit there. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's more of like a third center, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think they like the idea of a spread like a

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<v Speaker 1>spread out five five out kind of look that they

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<v Speaker 1>can go to. So I think with your other with

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<v Speaker 1>your four spot basically being like some Sondro Mama Kailash

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<v Speaker 1>Vilely and then like maybe it's Matist Staibel, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, can play some four, but he's like a

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<v Speaker 1>three to four. You know, maybe it ends up being

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<v Speaker 1>some Jared Vanderbilt in the short term, maybe it ends

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<v Speaker 1>up being some Adu Thiero, Like it could be a

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see if Arthur Kaluma can play some minutes there.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's just a lot of like if a real,

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<v Speaker 1>like legitimate NBA Power Forward comes in, that dude's just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get thirty minutes a night at the Power Forward.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's really the best thing for Jonathan right now.

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<v Speaker 1>The best thing for Jonathan is just consistent time on

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<v Speaker 1>an NBA even if the fit isn't great, And is

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<v Speaker 1>the fit great in La No, but it's a place

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<v Speaker 1>that I think he can go and get thirty plus

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<v Speaker 1>minutes a night, and if he at least twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, just doing that for a couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>could go a long way to him rehabbing his value,

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<v Speaker 1>becoming a better basketball player, and positioning himself for more

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<v Speaker 1>of a long term lucrative deal. So I know that

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers can't offer very much and assign and trade,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know that a salary would amount to less

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<v Speaker 1>than probably what he wants. But at this point, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't keep playing this game every summer where you

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<v Speaker 1>want twenty plus million a year, but no one's willing

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<v Speaker 1>to give it to you until you prove that you're

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<v Speaker 1>able to play at that level. And the best way

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<v Speaker 1>for him to prove that is to get on the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA court. And the best chance for him to get

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<v Speaker 1>on the NBA court is to find a situation like

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers where they're like, yo, dude, we need a

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<v Speaker 1>starting power forward. This is your job, and you could

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<v Speaker 1>play big minutes for us. And so that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>think the Lakers fit makes the most sense, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm hoping ends up happening for him. Also, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the Lakers offseason becomes a little sketchy, even though

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<v Speaker 1>I like some of the bench pieces, it's sketchy if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't get a starting caliber player in there. Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>Kaming guy, I think at least gives you more talent

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<v Speaker 1>ongoing topic of the salary cap in the first and

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<v Speaker 1>second apron A good example is the OKC Thunder giving

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<v Speaker 1>their homegrown talent their money, but with Shay's contract getting

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<v Speaker 1>a huge boost next year to sixty million, between the

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<v Speaker 1>and second apron. So I actually had another question from

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<v Speaker 1>one of you guys that pitch this idea. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is and this is not exactly some groundbreaking idea. We've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it on the show before and it's been

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<v Speaker 1>kind of bounced around, But I think the main change

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<v Speaker 1>the league needs to make is the homegrown talent discount.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it gets tricky because like if you

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<v Speaker 1>I think it if you trade for a draft pick

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<v Speaker 1>from another team because you're tanking and you're just absorbing

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<v Speaker 1>draft picks and taking on bad contracts, that if that

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<v Speaker 1>player gets drafted, they should be under the same salary constraints.

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<v Speaker 1>But I believe personally that if you draft a player

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<v Speaker 1>with your own draft pick that you originally owned, the

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<v Speaker 1>one that you get based on your performance as a team,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that draft picks should be under different

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<v Speaker 1>cap holds, so to speak, cap allocations than other players,

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<v Speaker 1>because it does not make sense for a team to

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<v Speaker 1>have great talent evaluation and to have the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>find good basketball players with their own draft picks, and

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<v Speaker 1>to ultimately get squeezed out of being able to maintain

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<v Speaker 1>control over those players. I had another question. It didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get into this, It didn't get into this particular mailbag,

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<v Speaker 1>but someone had asked something about the health of the league,

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Silver doing these things that led to us having

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<v Speaker 1>what has it been, seven different champions in seven years

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<v Speaker 1>or eight different champions in eight years. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>one of the important details there is like things are

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<v Speaker 1>going really well. Yes you have the parody, Yes you

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<v Speaker 1>have the ratings records that the league broke this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think get going to everyone bitched and moan about

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<v Speaker 1>it going to streaming and is it more expensive, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but the bottom line is it's getting into more houses.

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<v Speaker 1>More people are watching the NBA than ever in modern history, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not a fair cop to go back to

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety eight because there just wasn't as much on TV,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's not as much competition for eyeballs. Like, the

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<v Speaker 1>league is doing great, and I think that's an important

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<v Speaker 1>upside or an important like context here, But that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean you can't continue to improve it. Like we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this with Brian Winhorse when he came on the show, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean you can't improve certain things. I've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about officiating and improving the flow of games and getting

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<v Speaker 1>rid of non basketball plays. I think this is another

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<v Speaker 1>example where it's like when one of the strongest things

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<v Speaker 1>that makes Major League Baseball a viable product is the

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<v Speaker 1>support of local fan bases. There's just if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Louis Cardinals fan, like Saint Louis Cardinals regional local games,

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<v Speaker 1>they just churn out numbers night in and night out

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<v Speaker 1>because they have such loyal fan bases. The Dodgers, the Yankees,

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<v Speaker 1>the Red Sox go around the league, even like the

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<v Speaker 1>d Backs got good a couple of years ago and

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<v Speaker 1>I dropped everything I was doing and watched every d

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<v Speaker 1>Backs game and I barely have time for baseball. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's because like growing up in Arizona, we all remember

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<v Speaker 1>the team that won the title in two thousand and one.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the local fan bases are extremely strong in

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<v Speaker 1>Major League Baseball, and that in a way that supplements

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise weak performing national TV schedule. That's an area of

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity I think for the NBA, and the only way

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<v Speaker 1>to really breed long term, like fan base loyalty is

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<v Speaker 1>to have continuity. And if you have the rosters constantly

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<v Speaker 1>turning over because the team has to pick between which

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<v Speaker 1>guys they want to pay, and it's like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>team got really good, but now they have to hemorrhage

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<v Speaker 1>all their players because it's too expensive. Like that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. I think a chips away at that specific

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<v Speaker 1>type of local fan base loyalty and turns the league

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<v Speaker 1>into more of a national sport. I think it can

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<v Speaker 1>be both. And like if you have a universe where

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<v Speaker 1>it's an incentivized cap situation when you're able to retain

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<v Speaker 1>your own draft picks in some way, shape or form,

0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:12.840
<v Speaker 1>whether it's just okay, it's your own draft picks, so

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<v Speaker 1>it only counts seventy percent towards the cap of the

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<v Speaker 1>total number, which gives you more ability to spend money

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<v Speaker 1>elsewhere or to retain your great players. Something like that

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<v Speaker 1>could lead to marginal improvements and local fan based loyalty,

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<v Speaker 1>which can supplement a national TV schedule that's already performing

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<v Speaker 1>really well. And the league could be even better. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing. League's doing great, but it can be better,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think specifically rewarding teams that are well run

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<v Speaker 1>and that can draft well that allowing them to maintain

0:23:43.800 --> 0:23:45.560
<v Speaker 1>their talent I think would be an upside for the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Next one, the Bucksteo roster is pretty guard heavy, with

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<v Speaker 1>Buris and a mean showing flashes. Should Milwaukee look to

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<v Speaker 1>move Hero and Coops to free up minutes for younger

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<v Speaker 1>guys and acquire size or should we ride it out

0:23:57.119 --> 0:23:58.920
<v Speaker 1>and see what we have? Hero is the big one

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<v Speaker 1>for me, Like I just I really like the guard

0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:05.080
<v Speaker 1>rotation out there between, especially on ball guys in terms

0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:07.240
<v Speaker 1>of Ryan Rollins and Braiden Burry's and you guys know,

0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I like Aj Green a lot. I just think the

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Bucks have a really good guard, corep And I think

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<v Speaker 1>while Tyler Hero is a good basketball player that I

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<v Speaker 1>think can help certain teams, like I just personally don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he makes a lot of sense for the development

0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:23.960
<v Speaker 1>trajectory that Milwaukee is on. And so again, like and

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to give him at the ball more

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Like obviously I think Kyle Kuzma inevitably ends up

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<v Speaker 1>getting moved or moved to the bench in Milwaukee. But

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<v Speaker 1>to me, the big one is Tyler Hero. Tyler Hero

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<v Speaker 1>I think has some value too. Like if you look

0:24:35.920 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 1>at we talked about this with the Austin Reeves contract,

0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Hero's contract is actually like pretty affordable for a

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<v Speaker 1>player of his caliber because of the fact that the

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<v Speaker 1>league has gotten more and more expensive and just how

0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 1>much these guards cost. So like, Hero's got some value

0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:50.440
<v Speaker 1>if you can get something for him and clear up

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:52.879
<v Speaker 1>usage for your guards, I think that makes a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of sense. But I was really impressed by Braden Burry's

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<v Speaker 1>I watched him all year with Arizona, and one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that really impressed me him is like he

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<v Speaker 1>would get into these slumps and he would dig out

0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:06.600
<v Speaker 1>of them. Like I've seen slumps make players spiral, and

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:08.879
<v Speaker 1>he just kind of kept his confidence, kept hooping and

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:13.760
<v Speaker 1>was able to dig out of multiple like slumps in

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<v Speaker 1>like the conference tournament and in the actual tournament. And like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think he projects to be a really, really

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<v Speaker 1>solid NBA player. He's a scrapper, he gets to loose balls,

0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:25.920
<v Speaker 1>he hit a legitimate three level score, knock down, open,

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<v Speaker 1>catch and shoot. Guy has great size for the position,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of unassuming in a good locker room dude. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I just he was one of my favorite players that

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<v Speaker 1>ever rooted for and in Arizona, Jersey. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be a big addition for the Milwaukee Bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Another Bucks related question, before the trade deadline where players

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<v Speaker 1>like Tyler Herro and Jaime Hakkas are probably traded away,

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<v Speaker 1>how competitive in the standings can a Milwaukee Bucks team

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<v Speaker 1>be with a lineup of hero Rollins, Hakez, Kuzma, and

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<v Speaker 1>Turner with depth pieces like Brayden Burry's, Kevin Porter, Junior,

0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Kars Lavert and Killware. So here's the thing, and this

0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:03.480
<v Speaker 1>is where it gets tricky, because You're right. If you

0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 1>put out a lineup like Tyler Hero, Ryan Rollins, Himahakez,

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:11.440
<v Speaker 1>Kyle Kuzman, Miles Turner, and you basically just retain everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>can you be reasonably competitive? Sure? I think that team

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<v Speaker 1>is still a play in team in the Eastern Conference,

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<v Speaker 1>like in that seven to ten range. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that they're a playoff team by any means. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>really the key there is. Like if you I've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this before, I would maintain Turner and kell Aware

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<v Speaker 1>because I think the center position is very important for

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<v Speaker 1>the foundation of what your guards are trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>on both ends of the floor. Like if you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to teach Braden Burry's and Ryan Rollins to be good

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<v Speaker 1>drop coverage defenders so that you can ultimately, one day

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<v Speaker 1>in the future compete for a championship or compete in

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. You want them playing with legitimate rim protecting

0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 1>talent like kell Aware and Miles Turner. Right, same thing

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<v Speaker 1>with like pick and roll, Like both players can pick

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:59.159
<v Speaker 1>and pop, both players can pick and roll. Kellawharre's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more of a vertical spacer, although Miles Turner

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<v Speaker 1>is I think a better role man than he gets

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<v Speaker 1>credit for. You know, you have these pick and roll

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 1>partnerships that are gonna be what helps Braden Bury's and

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Ryan Rollins develop into the guards they're going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>So like I want, I don't want to like just

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<v Speaker 1>turn Miles Turner and kell Aware into draft picks and

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<v Speaker 1>then put really inferior center talent on the floor in

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>a way that just stilts the development trajectory of our guards. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So like that, I think I would keep Turner and

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<v Speaker 1>and kell Aware, but I wouldn't roll out all these

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 1>dudes and play them just to be a mediocre playing team.

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<v Speaker 1>I would try to get as much value for them

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<v Speaker 1>as you can and open up as much opportunity as

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<v Speaker 1>possible for your for your young players to develop in

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<v Speaker 1>the short term. Two more, three more excuse me, Jason,

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 1>big fan of the show. In your coverage of the game,

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 1>you and your guys at Nerd Sash from my go

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<v Speaker 1>to his for NBA coverage, I remember you talking about

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<v Speaker 1>what you believe when east Peak will look like when

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.879
<v Speaker 1>he finally develops offensively. But I was curious what kind

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:06.400
<v Speaker 1>of offense you've run for Wemby is it more off ball

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 1>stuff to free him up from physicality? Can you see

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 1>him running dhos to maybe free himself up and getting

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:15.760
<v Speaker 1>the slashing guards downhill? Curious for your thoughts. So I

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<v Speaker 1>actually ended up landing on like a Denver Nuggets style

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:21.719
<v Speaker 1>approach with Nikola Jokic. Now, obviously Jokic is much more

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 1>of a post player, so I would say, like, replace

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:27.160
<v Speaker 1>what you envision as the Jokic post up with more

0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 1>of like a Wemby face up. We have an episode

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 1>coming out on Monday that's going to be talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect number twos to pair with your superstars. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that I think about with Wemby

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<v Speaker 1>is like a lot of times with centers or playmakers,

0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 1>you go, well, you want to put a score next

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 1>to them, they can help in the late game situations.

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 1>I actually don't worry about that with Wemby. I think

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Wemby is going to become a devastating closer. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that his jump shot is unguardable and he's got the

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<v Speaker 1>touch that within a couple of years, I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be deadly from the mid range, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's going to pick teams apart down the stretch

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 1>of games with little short dumb shots. So like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry about Wemby's ISO game in the long run,

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:07.480
<v Speaker 1>it's more of a short term issue. I think Wemby

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<v Speaker 1>playing at the elbow extended in face ups would be

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<v Speaker 1>like my replacement for the Jokic post up kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I really like about the Jokic style offense

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<v Speaker 1>with Victor wemen Yama is the two man game and

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<v Speaker 1>then the inverted ball screens. So the two man game

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 1>pick and roll style, like getting Wemby with the high

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 1>level pick and roll player, whether it's still in Harper,

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Steph Castle, Darren Fox are a player to be named later,

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<v Speaker 1>but getting Victor wemen Yama in as many two man

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 1>game sequences where he's the screener and he can get

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>open pick and pop threes opportunities on the role for Lobbs.

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, the openings that it creates on the weak

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<v Speaker 1>side with his role gravity, deep post position on those

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 1>situations like that, a lot of a steady dyet of

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 1>pick and roll. You got to use Wemby's pick and

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 1>roll player because he's just incredibly valuable with his gravity

0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 1>rolling to the rim. The second piece of it is

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<v Speaker 1>the inverted ball screen thing, and this is what Jokic

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 1>does a ton. He'll bring the ball to the floor,

0:29:58.080 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>He'll dribble up to the right wing or the left wing.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll have Jamal Murray or Tim Hardaway Junior or whoever

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the shooting guard is on the floor come up and

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 1>set a screen for him. And if his man fights

0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 1>through the screen and the guard stays home, he'll rumble

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:16.240
<v Speaker 1>downhill and get a layup. If the guard switches, he'll

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 1>turn and post him. If the guard lingers in a

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 1>double team, he'll pitch the ball to the guard slipping

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 1>out of the screen. Right. It creates a very simple

0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>decision tree for the defense where somebody's going to be

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 1>open right, like you're either going to concede a switch

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 1>or Yokis is gonna get open on the drive or

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>the guard is going to get open on the pop. Right.

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:37.840
<v Speaker 1>That's just the decision tree of the inverted pick and roll.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it fits Victor wemen Yama's skill set

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:43.600
<v Speaker 1>extremely well because he can okay, you go way under.

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>He's a guy that it can hit pull up threes. Okay,

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>you create a passing read for him. He can see

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 1>over the top of the defense and throw those passes.

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 1>You give him a driving lane, He's just gonna go

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 1>down the lane and dunk on your ass, right. So,

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 1>like that's why I kind of look at the Denver

0:30:57.440 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>offense as an offense that I think makes a lot

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>of sense for San Antonio in the long run. Steady

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 1>died of inverted ball screens. For Wemby, Steady died of

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>regular kind of two man game pick and roll at

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 1>the top of the key and then instead of like

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 1>the Jokic post up style offense. I do think that

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 1>there's going to be a I think Wemby is going

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 1>to build out a pretty devastating kind of like high

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 1>post face up game in the coming years. That's going

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:24.080
<v Speaker 1>to be what he closes games with. Next question, Brunson

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 1>went head tohead with Wemby on the biggest stage of

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 1>sports and not only dominated him individually, but one in

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 1>five games, three of them being on the road. So

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>how is Jalen Brunson not the best player in the world,

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 1>let alone than Wemby. So I want to be really

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 1>clear up front here to the Knicks fans, I do

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 1>not mean my answer in this question to take away

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 1>in any way, shape or form what Jalen Brunson did

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>in his Final Finals MVP campaign. This conversation is now

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 1>officially being framed in the best in the World conversation,

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 1>which is a very different conversation. One of the most

0:31:55.760 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 1>common fallacies that I see with basketball is the idea

0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 1>of the late game shot making being kind of like

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>over index Don and I do think it's an incredibly

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 1>valuable piece. I would argue it's more valuable than it

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:16.239
<v Speaker 1>is statistically right, Like a couple shots at the end

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 1>of the game is just a few points, but it's

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 1>worth a lot in an environment where nobody can score.

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 1>So I don't mean to say that like late game

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 1>shot making is not valuable. It certainly is. But it's

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:31.479
<v Speaker 1>just one part of the game, right, And there's no

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 1>doubt that if there's three four minutes left in a

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 1>game and it's close, Jalen Brunson might literally be the

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 1>best player in the world at that one specific job.

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:43.240
<v Speaker 1>And so yes, if I can build a roster around

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 1>him that can carry him to those situations, he can

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 1>bring a great deal of value there. But that getting

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 1>to that very unique situation is a different job than

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 1>being in that exact situation and executing in that situation. So,

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:01.560
<v Speaker 1>for instance, like the guy from my era that got

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>this kind of buzz, the two guys were Kevin Durant

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Kawhi Leonard, And it's like there were plenty of times

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:09.840
<v Speaker 1>where guys tried to say Kevin Durant or Kawhi Leonard

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 1>were better than Lebron James and Steph Curry. But Lebron

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 1>James and Steph Curry, in my opinion, were by a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty decent margin the best players in that era, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think there was a little bit of a gap

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<v Speaker 1>between them and the Kawhi KD group. And the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why is that they both had this ability to drive

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly high level offense over the course of entire games,

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<v Speaker 1>entire seasons, entire playoff runs. Lebron also had this defensive

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<v Speaker 1>utility and Swiss army knife kind of thing. But they

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<v Speaker 1>both impacted winning in a way that was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>deeper than just late game shot making, where Steph and

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron the best late game shot makers in the league

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<v Speaker 1>never right. Like Steph on occasion would have trouble separating

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<v Speaker 1>from the Apex defenders in the league. Lebron his jump

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<v Speaker 1>shot kind of came and went, which made him somewhat

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<v Speaker 1>less reliable in those situations. But they were both good

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<v Speaker 1>in those situations while also bringing everything else to the table.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, Jalen Brunson is an example of a player

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<v Speaker 1>who like may very well be the best player in

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<v Speaker 1>the world for that specific situation, but there's just so

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<v Speaker 1>much more that goes into basketball than just that situation.

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<v Speaker 1>So even to put it this way, like do I

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<v Speaker 1>think Jalen Brunson out played Victor wemben Yama in the finals?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, well, yeah, at the end of games, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that he was a deserving finals MVP, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that his ability to out execute the Spurs

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<v Speaker 1>specifically in those situations was the separator that got it

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<v Speaker 1>done for the Knicks. But do I think Jaln Bunson

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<v Speaker 1>is better than Victor wemen Yama? Know? And like, if

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<v Speaker 1>you really dig into the series, the number one chess

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<v Speaker 1>match of the series was like, where's Victor wemen Yamen?

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<v Speaker 1>What are we doing with him? On both ends of

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<v Speaker 1>the floor. So like again it's just it's it's tricky

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm if I'm starting a season tomorrow, I'm taking

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<v Speaker 1>Wemby over Jalen one hundred times out of one hundred,

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<v Speaker 1>but yes, in the NBA Finals, Jaalen Brunson took advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of five close games, one four of them and was

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<v Speaker 1>able to hoist the trophy. So, like I just think again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about separating what happened in an individual playoff series

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<v Speaker 1>from like what basketball looks like in a vacuum. When

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<v Speaker 1>circumstances around that shift, which they do, the Spurs will

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<v Speaker 1>look different in the coming years and the Knicks will

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<v Speaker 1>look different in coming years. Last question, mailbag kind of

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<v Speaker 1>off topic, but what do you predict will be the

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<v Speaker 1>twelve players on USA twenty twenty eight men's Olympic team.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not going to really try to piece together

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<v Speaker 1>the full twelve here, but I'm more just interested in

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<v Speaker 1>looking at what the general roster is going to look

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<v Speaker 1>like and at the guards. You're gonna have some combination

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<v Speaker 1>of like Anthony Edwards, K. Cunningham and Tyrese Haliburton on

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<v Speaker 1>the wings, Jason Tatum, Cooper Flagg, Pala Boncaro, Center's Chet Holmgren,

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<v Speaker 1>bam At a bio Evan Mobley. We'll see if one

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<v Speaker 1>of these young rookies is able to play by the

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<v Speaker 1>time we get to twenty twenty eight, you also have

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<v Speaker 1>like a tail end of the roster that you can

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<v Speaker 1>fill in with a variety of different guys. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the core of the team, those nine

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<v Speaker 1>guys that I can think of, And honestly, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be challenge. I was when I was looking at it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little I think this twenty twenty eight team

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be pretty vulnerable. I'm like, I should include

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Brown in that list too. By the way, I

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<v Speaker 1>put Jalen Brown in as one of the forwards. But

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<v Speaker 1>the point is is, like those guys are gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to gel in a real way because what you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have there is a super super reliable, high level offensive

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<v Speaker 1>engine type like Tyres Halliburn is an offensive engine, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's not the level of like what the Lebron Steph

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<v Speaker 1>machine was in twenty twenty four some previous teams. Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Tatum is a better passer than most forwards, but like

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<v Speaker 1>he's not gonna be anywhere near the level of offensive

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<v Speaker 1>engine as some of the teams he's gonna run into

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<v Speaker 1>in the Olympic Tournament. You know, Cooper Flag is developing

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<v Speaker 1>really nicely, but I think it's just hard to predict

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<v Speaker 1>him being like some all world offensive engine. So they

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<v Speaker 1>lack that like kind of natural like we're gonna play

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<v Speaker 1>through this guy on offense and get great shots at time,

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<v Speaker 1>missing that it requires everything to come together perfectly. They

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<v Speaker 1>got to be awesome on defense. They got to shoot

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<v Speaker 1>the basketball extremely well. A bunch of these guys are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to mesh together in their skill sets and

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<v Speaker 1>make personal sacrifices. I'm not saying I still think the

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<v Speaker 1>TMOSA will always be the safest bet because of all

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<v Speaker 1>of their talent, but twenty twenty eight will be the

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<v Speaker 1>most vulnerable that Team USA has been since that two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and four team that came up short. All right, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all I have for today is always a sincerely

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<v Speaker 1>persent you guys for supporting us and supporting the show.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back Monday. We're gonna do my perfect number

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<v Speaker 1>twos for the top five superstars in the NBA. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>we might have a Lebron reveal somewhere in there, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's already happened, and then next week we will get

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<v Speaker 1>into some either fallout from the Lebron trade most likely

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<v Speaker 1>or Lebron signing most likely if not, then we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>into our player rightings