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Speaker 3: who's been waiting patiently. Hello Shae, make sure you're unmuted.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Welcome to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: How are you hey, gentlemen, Good evening. How's Atlanta treating
Speaker 1: you so far?
Speaker 3: Good? Good? Yeah, Dan's got a jacket on. It is
Speaker 3: a little nippy here in the hotel room, but we'll.
Speaker 1: Try to be in a hotel room. It's like twenty
Speaker 1: degrees outside here in Wisconsin.
Speaker 3: Brutal, brutal. What you got for us tonight?
Speaker 1: Well you stole my thunder a little bit taking Fresno.
Speaker 1: They are plus three now. By the way, the line
Speaker 1: has moved okay since since maybe you made that pick.
Speaker 1: But I will say that as a backup I had
Speaker 1: ready to go. Tomorrow at one pm Eastern, we have Akron.
Speaker 1: We have Buffalo, Buffalo playing for a bowl game. Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: and they have won. They won on a five game
Speaker 1: winning streak. Like mid season, they kind of fell off
Speaker 1: a little bit playing a little bit stronger competition. Ohio.
Speaker 1: They lost by a little bit to Kent State.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's Akron Akrons two and nine. The game was rescheduled.
Speaker 1: Buffalo has everything to play for, an Acron has nothing
Speaker 1: in Buffalo's only favored by eleven. I'll take him by
Speaker 1: at least two touchdowns, and that's that's my pick.
Speaker 2: I like it on the beating.
Speaker 3: Path, going heavy Buffalo. Thank you, Shay, we appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Let's go on over who's in the chat here? Who
Speaker 3: do we got? Catherine? What up, Catherine? What do you
Speaker 3: got for us?
Speaker 1: Hey, y'all.
Speaker 4: I'm also going to pick a team that is playing
Speaker 4: for a bowl game. I'm going to pick New Mexico State.
Speaker 1: This weekend.
Speaker 4: I do have a side a side note, if y'all.
Speaker 3: Don't mind, please.
Speaker 2: Oh well, it was.
Speaker 4: Gonna be about Auburn, but then I you know, this
Speaker 4: kind of chat went on.
Speaker 1: I just want.
Speaker 4: To kind of take a pause here and think about
Speaker 4: college football. The most games that a team can play
Speaker 4: in any season is fifteen. The maximum number of games
Speaker 4: that a player can be on a team for is
Speaker 4: I guess technically seventy five, assuming the red shirt one
Speaker 4: year and taking out the weird COVID stuff. I think
Speaker 4: that any kind of concept, and.
Speaker 1: It's not just y'all.
Speaker 4: It's been something that's been popping up as people think
Speaker 4: about the playoff and all this other stuff. Expansion, the
Speaker 4: idea of any of these players or any of these
Speaker 4: teams deciding that they're going to tank a game or
Speaker 4: that they're going to not have anything to play for.
Speaker 4: I think that that just kind of goes against the
Speaker 4: entire ethos of college football as a chaotic, wacky collection
Speaker 4: of you know, eighteen to twenty two year olds who,
Speaker 4: even when they have nothing to play for, all of
Speaker 4: a sudden can beat Lshue for no good reason except
Speaker 4: despite us. So I just wanted to kind of that
Speaker 4: points as we're talking about.
Speaker 2: To be clear, I didn't think it would happen, to
Speaker 2: be clear, I know.
Speaker 4: But I think that's worth having a conversation because even
Speaker 4: in kind of like in different spaces, it's been brought
Speaker 4: up in different you know, y'all know I'm in a comment.
Speaker 2: Section, like sure you are, the comment section.
Speaker 4: Well sometimes, but it's just something that I think needed
Speaker 4: to be said, and I felt like saying it.
Speaker 1: Also a really bad hire. Oh yeah, so.
Speaker 2: Thanks guys, of course, thank you as always.
Speaker 3: Catherine, always very thoughtful. We appreciate that. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: the tanking thing. I mean people have twisted themselves in
Speaker 3: knots on the pro level when it shuts up, right,
Speaker 3: is it?
Speaker 1: Is?
Speaker 3: It? Is it? You know? Is it cool to do that?
Speaker 1: Is?
Speaker 3: I mean the NBA doesn't know what to do about it, right,
Speaker 3: it's been.
Speaker 2: Well, they've changed up the way that the lottery works
Speaker 2: so you can't just automatically get the topic or one
Speaker 2: of the top two or three picks, right. They've changed
Speaker 2: up the percentages. And we've seen it with football NFL
Speaker 2: in years past, like should we play our starters since
Speaker 2: we've already clinched a playoff spot and we I don't
Speaker 2: know what it's called. Now they're week eighteen now because
Speaker 2: they play seventeen games. So that's that is. You know,
Speaker 2: it's not nearly as true with college football. But also
Speaker 2: you can say, this is me just going out into
Speaker 2: a silly tangent. You can say, why don't we play
Speaker 2: some younger players because some older players are beat up
Speaker 2: and let's not force them to play through injuries in
Speaker 2: this specific moment. I don't think it happens. But also
Speaker 2: you're like Okay, we are up by this many points.
Speaker 2: Let's play younger players earlier than we usually would in
Speaker 2: a game like this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't think tanking per se and
Speaker 3: we'll move on here. I know we've got people who
Speaker 3: are cute up. I don't think tanking per se is
Speaker 3: something that we will see in college football before, players
Speaker 3: not wanting to play more games in an expanded playoff universe.
Speaker 3: Before you know, coaches talking more openly about not playing
Speaker 3: guys who are injury risks, maybe altering point spreads in
Speaker 3: an unintended way, not wanting to risk injury to some
Speaker 3: of the players who are going to have to play
Speaker 3: in a playoff. That is not direct tanking, no, but
Speaker 3: it is something that has an impact on, you know,
Speaker 3: the college football equivalent of a Week eighteen or a
Speaker 3: conference championship game or whatever form this thing takes on.
Speaker 3: In many ways, we are pushing into new territory with
Speaker 3: college football right now, nil, with transfer portals, with coaches
Speaker 3: getting insane money, that the expanded playoff universe, which appears
Speaker 3: as if it's going to happen. We don't even talk
Speaker 3: about that because that became official detailed, well not even yet,
Speaker 3: but it's it's it's trending in that direction for the
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four season.
Speaker 2: No, No, the playoff actually announced it because the Rose
Speaker 2: Bowl agreement. Yeah, the Rosebull acquiesced It's twenty twenty four
Speaker 2: as a twelve team playoff.
Speaker 3: I mean, we knew it was going to happen one
Speaker 3: way or yeah, but the fact that we are now
Speaker 3: diving headfirst into this world is who knows what kind
Speaker 3: of ramification. So it's a it's a great conversation. And
Speaker 3: thank you Catherine for kind of taking us down that
Speaker 3: path a little bit more. Where do we want to
Speaker 3: go next?
Speaker 1: Here?
Speaker 3: Let's go to Mark Mark. Welcome aboard. Unmute yourself, sir,
Speaker 3: how are you? You are muted currently?
Speaker 1: Now you're not?
Speaker 3: Hello?
Speaker 5: Hey, hey, thanks for having me guys, joy listening to
Speaker 5: your show. I'm a big Michigan actual about hundred miles
Speaker 5: from me goes to Eisty, Alabama.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 5: But and my thing is, I would say, I know
Speaker 5: Michigan Ohio State Day last week. That was a great game.
Speaker 5: I love seeing JJ McCarthy play that game. Last week.
Speaker 5: I thought that was like, I think he's gonna be
Speaker 5: the best, gonna be one of the best quarterbacks of
Speaker 5: Michigan history if he keeps going on like that and
Speaker 5: does not get hurt in the next couple of years.
Speaker 5: But I would like to say this week, I would
Speaker 5: think that Michigan, after coming off that high and not
Speaker 5: having that novelty of having to win the Big Ten
Speaker 5: for the first time in a long time I did
Speaker 5: last year, I'm almost thinking that Perdue might have a
Speaker 5: better chance to play play under the I think Michigan
Speaker 5: will win, but I would think that Michigan might play
Speaker 5: a little down after coming down off that game against
Speaker 5: Ohio State. Now I know that you guys have always
Speaker 5: talked to I've been talking in the season about the
Speaker 5: bite from Nebraska, but now Michigan has not had that
Speaker 5: effect as of yet. I'm kind of leary that Michigan
Speaker 5: could let this one get by them a little bit.
Speaker 3: If they you know, Yeah, thank you, thank you, Mark
Speaker 3: for hopping on with us here. I appreciate that sentiment
Speaker 3: because I feel like everywhere I've looked, and certainly between
Speaker 3: you and I, it's all been very pro Michigan. Even
Speaker 3: after the Blake Korum stuff, It's like, Wow, They're still
Speaker 3: going to run away with this thing. The points where
Speaker 3: it hasn't really moved all that much. So it's it's
Speaker 3: refreshing in a sense to get a different point of
Speaker 3: view on that Michigan could play down. Michigan has played down.
Speaker 3: So I played down to Illinois, right, we saw, sure,
Speaker 3: you know, it's not beyond the realm of possibilities, especially
Speaker 3: in already a wacky college football season, for that type
Speaker 3: of thing to go down.
Speaker 2: So the thing is the case against Michigan covering and
Speaker 2: struggling a bit with Purdue is basically looking at the
Speaker 2: Ohio State game as an offensive anomaly. That the way
Speaker 2: that they've won has been wearing teams down on the
Speaker 2: ground with a running back who's not available for the
Speaker 2: rest of the year, largely with the running back who's
Speaker 2: not available for the rest of the year, and that
Speaker 2: they didn't have an especially explosive offense, especially through the air,
Speaker 2: and then it happened against Ohio State, and we've seen
Speaker 2: other teams do a good job in keeping the Michigan
Speaker 2: offense in front of them. What the Michigan State score,
Speaker 2: even though was what the final was, twenty nine to
Speaker 2: seven or something like that. I think they had one
Speaker 2: offensive drive, essentially offensive touchdown drive in that game. And
Speaker 2: so there is that concern that because teams have turned
Speaker 2: sevens into threes when Michigan has the ball, that it
Speaker 2: becomes a more difficult cover job. That Michigan can control
Speaker 2: this game and win it thirty three to twenty, right,
Speaker 2: or you know, twenty eight to seventeen and not cover
Speaker 2: even though it never seemed to be in doubt because
Speaker 2: they came up short on third and eight on the
Speaker 2: fourteen or something like that. That's the concern if you're
Speaker 2: looking at this as like, Okay, Purdue's defense might just
Speaker 2: be good enough to keep Michigan's offense in front of
Speaker 2: them if they're keying in on the run on a
Speaker 2: still beat up Donovan Edwards and so in a letdown spot.
Speaker 2: I don't buy it because we've seen it before where
Speaker 2: and I don't I think Purdue is much better than Rutgers.
Speaker 2: But we saw that slow start against Rutgers and then
Speaker 2: what happened interception interception, interception, and it's the defense that
Speaker 2: wears down the other team and it just makes life
Speaker 2: easier for the offense. Ultimately, that's why I think Michigan covers.
Speaker 2: But the case is, I think it's pretty clear it's
Speaker 2: pretty clear.
Speaker 3: Let's do one more because we do have this interview
Speaker 3: excerpt that we want to play for Kreischer. Can't believe
Speaker 3: it's so good, can't. We had a chance to chat
Speaker 3: with him earlier today. We wanted to have him on
Speaker 3: the show forever, and we finally were able to make
Speaker 3: it happen here from the mobile Atlanta studio today, let's
Speaker 3: go to Ken to close things out here before we
Speaker 3: play part of that interview. Hey, Ken, how are you? Who?
Speaker 2: Ken?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 2: I phoned that out.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say, Hey, love you guys, be
Speaker 1: proud of you forgetting Bert Kreusher.
Speaker 3: Cee. LSU is gonna beat the breaks.
Speaker 1: Off Georgia this weekend. Yeah, Ken ups, not a clutch
Speaker 1: whatever the breaks off of Love y'all have a wonderful night.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Kim. What a way to go out. Okay
Speaker 2: you are not Ken spokesperson, But should LSU beat the
Speaker 2: breaks off of Georgia? What is what is the cause?
Speaker 2: What is the engine of LSU beating the engine?
Speaker 3: The engine is Jade daniels Man, The engine is Jane
Speaker 3: Daniels I mean the engine has been Jane daniels in
Speaker 3: all the big games that LSU has won, and you
Speaker 3: know they've had obviously, they've had guys step up on defense, right,
Speaker 3: our guy Harry Perky, Right, I mean he continues to
Speaker 3: get better week in and week out. And you know,
Speaker 3: is he kind of guy who can make a difference
Speaker 3: on a couple different levels.
Speaker 2: Looks to be a Winter wonder already.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean is he that type of talent?
Speaker 3: I think so. I think he needs more support, right,
Speaker 3: But I think Elisi's a really good side. I just
Speaker 3: think they need to get some of the other pieces
Speaker 3: of the offense.
Speaker 2: I've been watching a lot of Worldview too.
Speaker 3: I've been I've been watching a lot of World Cup,
Speaker 3: excuse me. So I think if it happens, I mean,
Speaker 3: it's probably cliche at this point to say it's Jane Daniels,
Speaker 3: but I think it is probably Jane Daniels leading the
Speaker 3: charge in tandem with some of those other weapons on offense,
Speaker 3: whether it's him being able to throw down field to
Speaker 3: Molik Neighbors, to Sean Boody, you know, like getting it
Speaker 3: working through the passing game, I think is probably the
Speaker 3: way to do it for Jane Daniels and then making
Speaker 3: things happen with his legs. You know, it probably is
Speaker 3: not more complicated than that, I am. I am skeptical
Speaker 3: that Georgia woolfall victim to it. But Georgia also has
Speaker 3: had some moments this season where they play with their
Speaker 3: food too. To the earlier point of maybe Michigan plays down.
Speaker 3: Georgia doesn't necessarily need to win this game, right, George
Speaker 3: is probably and already so I'm not I'm not implying tanking,
Speaker 3: but I am implying perhaps there's a chance Georgia plays
Speaker 3: down and perhaps a super motivated LSU team comes again.
Speaker 3: A few like a hop, skip and a jump away
Speaker 3: from US and Kim pull an upset. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's more defense. I would say defense
Speaker 2: and special teams, but I don't know if I've always
Speaker 2: trust lcu's special teams. Yeah, I think it's more defense, right.
Speaker 2: I think it's havoc. I think it's scoopid scores. I
Speaker 2: think it's you know, an interception that necessarily is a
Speaker 2: pick six but flips the field. I think anything that
Speaker 2: makes the offense's job easier. I think that's probably the
Speaker 2: recipe for LSU winning this game. I don't see the
Speaker 2: recipe for right, it's short field, it's freak plays, and
Speaker 2: it's that's that's invented. Is not a perfect quarterback. It's
Speaker 2: it's that maybe Georgia goes into this game so confident
Speaker 2: in winning that they're not showing all that much ahead
Speaker 2: of the playoff. They feel like they can show just enough,
Speaker 2: you know, show sixty three percent their playbooks, you know,
Speaker 2: come up with a very conservative game plan because that's
Speaker 2: sort of been their mo is right to get a
Speaker 2: comfortable enough lead and.
Speaker 3: Shut it down. I'll tell you what the bummer is.
Speaker 3: The bummer about this game, no offense to this beautiful city. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the bummer is that the game is in Georgia. Because
Speaker 3: you gotta believe most of the people out there who
Speaker 3: aren't Georgia fans root for LSU.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: They want LSU to pull this up something new and
Speaker 3: so it may not feel that way in the stadium,
Speaker 3: but certainly out there in the Twitter sphere, on our
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Speaker 3: to be rooting for LSU.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just hope Tiger fans who were considering traveling
Speaker 2: that that energy wasn't tamped down by the loss last
Speaker 2: week to A and M. Now that they're represented well
Speaker 2: in the Mercedes whatever,