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Speaker 1: Well you stole my thunder a little bit taking Fresno.

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Speaker 3: Let's do one more because we do have this interview

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Speaker 3: excerpt that we want to play for Kreischer. Can't believe

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Speaker 3: it's so good, can't. We had a chance to chat

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Speaker 2: Ken?

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Speaker 1: Hey?

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Speaker 2: I phoned that out.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to say, Hey, love you guys, be

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Speaker 1: proud of you forgetting Bert Kreusher.

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Speaker 3: Cee. LSU is gonna beat the breaks.

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Speaker 1: Off Georgia this weekend. Yeah, Ken ups, not a clutch

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Speaker 1: whatever the breaks off of Love y'all have a wonderful night.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Kim. What a way to go out. Okay

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Speaker 2: you are not Ken spokesperson, But should LSU beat the

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Speaker 2: What is the engine of LSU beating the engine?

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Speaker 3: The engine is Jade daniels Man, The engine is Jane

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Speaker 3: Daniels I mean the engine has been Jane daniels in

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Speaker 3: know they've had obviously, they've had guys step up on defense, right,

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Speaker 3: our guy Harry Perky, Right, I mean he continues to

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Speaker 2: Looks to be a Winter wonder already.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean is he that type of talent?

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Speaker 3: But I think Elisi's a really good side. I just

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Speaker 2: I've been watching a lot of Worldview too.

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Speaker 3: I've been I've been watching a lot of World Cup,

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Speaker 3: it's probably cliche at this point to say it's Jane Daniels,

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Speaker 3: not more complicated than that, I am. I am skeptical

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Speaker 3: Georgia doesn't necessarily need to win this game, right, George

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Speaker 3: A few like a hop, skip and a jump away

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's more defense. I would say defense

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Speaker 2: recipe for LSU winning this game. I don't see the

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Speaker 3: Shut it down. I'll tell you what the bummer is.

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Speaker 3: The bummer about this game, no offense to this beautiful city. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: They want LSU to pull this up something new and

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I just hope Tiger fans who were considering traveling

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