1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I did an episode with Corey Spelling about 2 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: Kim and Kyle and Cathy. I want to go back 3 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: and explain to you my relationship to the Hilton's and 4 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: Kyle Richards. I met Kyle, as I mentioned before, at 5 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: Las Kalo when I was a hostess for like eight 6 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: dollars an hour at the home of the famous chop Salad, 7 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: and Kyle and I dated the same person. I was 8 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: dating him at that time, and I met her because 9 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: I inquired about her expensive eighteen dollar lank home makeup remover. 10 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: We became friends and she would come in there with 11 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: Kathy and they would bring Paris and Nikki and Cam 12 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: would come sometimes and they would always order the fried Mizzorella. 13 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: I know it's something mizzarella and karosa that Kyle lived on, 14 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: lived on when she was pregnant. And she loved the 15 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: chop salad and love this periode or to Lawanna soup. 16 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: But she got me into it like this period vegetable soup. 17 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: She loved the pasta. I just remember this. I don't 18 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: know why she loved the pasta marian Era. And they 19 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: all used to come in as a family, and Kathy 20 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 1: met Rick when they were in high school and Kim 21 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: was married to her husband, Greg Davis right probably right 22 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: out of high school. And I worked for Kathy as 23 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: a personal assistant at her in her home, taking Paris 24 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: and Nikki to and from ice skating and to school 25 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: to the Least Say, which is wild because that's the 26 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: school that she left when she went to that crazy 27 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: boarding school. And I used to take Paris and Nikki 28 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: to get ferrets at the pet store and Rampage, which 29 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: was like a Forever twenty one at Century City. And 30 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: I'd also hang out with Kyle and we'd go out 31 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: at night and we go to the nightclubs like the Gate, 32 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: and it was the Arrow where she met Maurice, and 33 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: Kathy was like, you know, I think was at another level. 34 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: Kyle was living in her mom's apartment on South Swall 35 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: and I used to come over there and hang out 36 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: and have the best conversations with her and her mom, 37 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: and then her mom would watch Fair and then Kyle 38 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: and I would go out and um, we cried laughing. 39 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: We had so many crazy stories, like we we went 40 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: to my twenty fifth birthday together where a guy I 41 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: was dating didn't get me a present. I was so upset. 42 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: He didn't even he was like he was like a 43 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: wealthy older man and not old old, but like for 44 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: us old. He was probably like thirty five or something. 45 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: He's a very very wealthy, successful guy, really young. And 46 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: he came and he didn't even bring me a birthday present, 47 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: and he didn't even offer to pay for part of 48 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: um me. He just came to like stop by and 49 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: say hi. I was like, what that guy, you know, 50 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: like the big insecton city where he never really does 51 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: the full thing you need him to do. And Kyle 52 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: and I were there, and we were in my forward 53 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: probe and we had all these presents in the car 54 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: and because all I did was lived to make her laugh, 55 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: like I just could get you know, I've always been 56 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: like a clown. So I was like, I didn't even 57 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: matter that he didn't buy me a present. I don't care, 58 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't even matter. I don't I don't even care. 59 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: And I started throwing I'm like, I don't this gift, 60 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: I don't care. I started throwing my presence that I 61 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: hadn't even opened up out the window of the car, 62 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: like acting like I didn't care, because like none of 63 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: the presents meant anything. Because the guy was dating didn't 64 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: get me a present, and we pulled over on the 65 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: side of the road and started like picking up my 66 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: gifts off the highway like it was a funny bit 67 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: until I realized I had no birthday presents because everyone 68 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: who had come to my party that did give me 69 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: a gift. It was now thrown out on the highway. 70 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: You'll shill the mind you that story. And then one 71 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: day we went to mobile Mart with Kathy and Nikki 72 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: after ice skating, and I don't remember what happened, but 73 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: something happened and the person at the counter was being 74 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: rude to us or something was going on. I don't 75 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: remember what was happening. You have to ask Kyle. But 76 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: I was like causing a fit. I don't remember what 77 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: the hell I was doing. I was causing a fit, 78 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: and it was like there was an interaction between Kyle 79 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: and I and like we're having some sort of an argument. 80 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: The kids were laughing because they're little kids, and like 81 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: little kids, Pharaoh's four, So do the math. There is 82 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: a grown woman now who's like telling multimillion dollar houses 83 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: with Mauricio on Netflix, and she's got like a g 84 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: wagon and she was four years old and we're in 85 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: the mobile mart and we're having this big discussion and 86 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: someone opens it our on walks and I go, hi, 87 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: welcome to mobile Mart, like because there's like a full 88 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: on called comphony argument going on. So Kyle I used 89 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: to have an amazing time. We She'll kill me for 90 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: saying this, but we were like this is in my 91 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: thirties and like all I used we used to go 92 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: on these hikes every day and like I like fifty 93 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: pounds of like lascala chops salads every day and bread. 94 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: And then you know, she met Maurice and then she 95 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: got married. I was at her wedding and I remember, 96 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: like it was yesterday seeing Paris Hilton like walked through 97 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: this long like lioness hair, and Paris was like looking 98 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: back now, she had all these little kids like following her. 99 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: She had like a like a like a little entourage 100 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: in Kyle's wedding, Like she was like the queen of 101 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: like the little girls. And we had no idea who 102 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: the hell knew in New York that were written about 103 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: more even if things had happened in l A, I 104 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: just don't remember. There was something about her and like 105 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: Nicole Ritchie driving Rod Stewart's like car or something. I 106 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: don't remember, but I just used to read perfectly, and 107 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: but like wait the NICKI and Paris and I used 108 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: to like babysit. It just went whenever occurred to me 109 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: the would become famous. I didn't know what famous was. 110 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: I didn't know what socialites were. I just was standing 111 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: by watching it and reading and being like, what the 112 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: actual hell. So anyway, Kyle and I kind of we 113 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: always were friends, but I got married. She came to 114 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: my wedding, I went to her wedding. I ended up 115 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: living in Chicago and being with someone else. We we 116 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: would lose track for years. So people wonder, like, you know, 117 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: oh my god, you guys are best friends, and how 118 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: could you talk about that show? And I didn't say 119 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: they would never say something negative about them, but like, 120 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: there were so many years that we were didn't speak 121 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: and when we would see each other once in a while, 122 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: when I would come to l A. We were so 123 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: close in our twenties, but you know how that is 124 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: then our thirties, not close in our forties, and like 125 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: life went on. We always knew each other, but we 126 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: weren't best friends. Same thing with Kathy. I hadn't seen 127 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: Kathy for years, and I used to watch Paris and Nicki, 128 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: but I wasn't like there everyday nanny. So one day 129 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: I run into Kathy at Oscar to Lorenta in the 130 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: city and she tells somebody else She's like, oh, Bethany 131 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: was Paris and Nicki's nanny. And I'm like, oh my god, 132 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: that's so great. I just got like a major up. 133 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: I just thought I was like working rapping gifts at 134 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: her store, the staircase she had, the store that used 135 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: to sell like all these ornaments, these expensive Christopher rag 136 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: Goo ornaments. This bitch was into this holiday ship and 137 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: the expensive stuff long before anybody. Like they should all 138 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: bow down on the housewife she had. She had thirty 139 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: all her ornaments, how her fucking thirties, like this she had. 140 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: She had Judith Lieber bags and like Faberge eggs, and 141 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: was living in Jacqueline Smith's house and like they were 142 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: not playing any games, okay, Like I was a Ford probe, 143 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: like I got wearing clothes from rampage. It was another level. 144 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: So we'd go to her Jacqueline Smith house and it 145 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: was like so fancy, and she was having her Christmas 146 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: party then. I mean, she just was born to be 147 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: a rich man. So um and I used to work 148 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: in her store the staircase and wrap these gifts, and 149 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: I was terrible at it. I remember that's when like 150 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: the boys were born. It was like so long ago. 151 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: So Kyle and I lost touch on off. We'd see 152 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: each other's times in l a different relationships. I always 153 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: really had fun with her. She's always been really funny. Um. 154 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: I got to know her kids a little bit years 155 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: later on a brief trip to ask and I had 156 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: such fun with them. I respect what a close family 157 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: they are. I always really liked Maurice. I admire that 158 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: he was worked in the garment industry and came from 159 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: like a nice family, but not you know, he was 160 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: success wasn't handed to him. He hustled. He worked for 161 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: Ricky hustled. I don't actually my understanding of it is 162 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: he just worked for rick and then went off on 163 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: his own, which does happen, and it hurts, but it 164 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: does happen. But that was like a bait, major deal, 165 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: as you guys all saw on the show. When Kyle 166 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: was going on the show, I was like going off 167 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: the show and when she was asking me about doing it. 168 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: I was kind of turned off that she wanted to 169 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: do it because I was like turned up by being 170 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: there and I wanted to leave. And so I remember 171 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: being at this restaurant and her asking me about it 172 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: and ME just being like, wait, what like, and it 173 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: probably sounded like a line that I was like, Oh no, 174 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: I just want to be out of there. You know, 175 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: probably sounded like, oh, don't do it, because like I 176 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,239 Speaker 1: don't want you to do, you know, But I didn't 177 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: want to be and I did leave. So I always 178 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: backed up. I'm the I'm the only one who ever 179 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: really backed up saying I was gonna leave and leaving. 180 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: People always said Lisa Vanna Pump always said she was 181 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: gonna leave. Kyle always said she's gonna leave. Everyone always 182 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: said they're gonna leave. People don't leave unless they really 183 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: get fired, and Kyle is never in any danger of that. 184 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: But I used to always say that I didn't like it, 185 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: and Kyle um she was born to be famous, Like 186 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: she always was doing her own makeup and like was 187 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: always looked perfect and was glamorous every day and always 188 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: had the jewel I have allowed jewelry and watches no one. 189 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: It's hard to touch me there. But she always had 190 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: all she always liked the looks good and like she 191 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: just always looked as like a woman, you know, in 192 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: her big Mercedes and a woman about town in Beverly Hills, 193 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: and she just, you know, this is perfect for her. 194 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: And I used to come to l A and she'd 195 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: want to go to Craig's or somewhere, and I would 196 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: just want to be like, not go out where there 197 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: was going to be paparazzi. I don't know why. I 198 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: just always made me a little bit uncomfortable. So the 199 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: way that we were on the show and in the 200 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: light was just a little bit different, Like we just 201 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: we just drifted a little bit, not in any kind 202 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: of negative way. I love Kyle, but because people ask 203 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: why did I follow her on Instagram, which I'll get into, 204 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: we just we're living different lives. I just wanted to 205 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: be off and she was really really immersed in it, 206 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: wanted to be on, and I wanted to not go 207 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: to restaurants where the paparazzi was because you know, I 208 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't I don't know, have to do 209 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: my own makeup, and I would she would be like you, 210 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: she she she would laugh at me, and now she 211 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: laughed at like I tried to do my own makeup 212 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: because it's ridiculous. Um, So we just were different in it. 213 00:09:55,200 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: And years ago when she was real, like before she 214 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: was famous, she used to hang out with nick La 215 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: Shay and Paris and Nikki and run around. And she 216 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: was in the Utue Hollywood special as the Aunt, and 217 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: she was in the show with Kathy about like be 218 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: Kathy Hilton's personal assistant or something. And I was a 219 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: nobody and I would see Paris and Nicki, but they 220 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: didn't really remember me. So it was like I was 221 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: intrigued by that they were Paris and Nikki, the kids 222 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: that I had babysat, but they didn't give a ship. 223 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: Like they were living in New York being super uber famous, 224 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: and I uh used to want to hang out with 225 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: Kyle and them. It was so intriguing, and I feel 226 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: like she wanted to protect them and like keep that 227 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: separate or like when people want to like be around 228 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: they separated, but so I feel like she separated her 229 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: life and it just was different. The whole thing was 230 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: just different. And it's not even totally a blame thing. 231 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: Just she went like the Fame route and I was nobody. 232 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: Kathy was. Kim was like on the Fame route because 233 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: of Paris and Nikkik. He wasn't, but Kim was sort 234 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: of like the aunt and in those shows and like 235 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: fame adjacent because of Paris and Nicki. And that's where 236 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: they met all these different people. And they used to 237 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: jet said and they go to Vegas all the time, 238 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: and like it was during that whole time when Nicki 239 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: Hilton married that guy Um who I knew, Todd Meister, 240 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: and they were just all living that like crazy l 241 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: a same life, knowing all the celebrities at all the clubs, 242 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: and I was nothing. I was nobody, I was broke. 243 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: I just definitely didn't fit into that. So then I 244 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: came onto the Housewives, and I became known first, you know, 245 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: in that regard, and I wanted to leave it because 246 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: I didn't like it, like I didn't like being there 247 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: for me, which is why the proof is in the pudding. 248 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: I left after three seasons. You certainly don't leave the 249 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: Housewives that's gone on for fifteen seasons after three seasons 250 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: if you want the light. I just wanted the success. 251 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: So I left and she was coming in and she 252 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: was very immersed in it, you know, which is understandable. 253 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: It's very much her life. She's a you know, she's 254 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: a uh like the Susan Luke. She have the house, 255 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: so she's like a career housewife. Shenna be on the housewife, 256 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: you know, she around the housewives for she's like iconic, 257 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: you know, she's she's never left. So I was leaving, 258 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: and then years later I came back. And we always 259 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: liked seeing each other. We would laugh so hard in 260 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 1: New York. One night we went out, and I mean 261 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: the pictures of me the next day and what I 262 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: looked like. She was like, I can't believe of the 263 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: courage to post that. It's it's I look so frightening, 264 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: it's hysterical. I was like, oh, this is what a 265 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: night with Kyle looks like. And I looked like I 266 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: was run over by a train. Um. And then I 267 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: left again, and you know, she became good friends. She 268 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: wasn't friends back then. She was always friends to Faye 269 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: reis Nick and like adjacent with um Chris Jenner, but 270 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: Paris and and Kim weren't really friends for a long time. 271 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: Kim became famous because of Paris. Kim was hanging out 272 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: with Paris during those days. During that that's how she 273 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: became famous. She went out with Nickola sha It landed 274 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: in the paper, and you know, Paris was on the 275 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: front lines. Kim was helping her organizer closet. So Paris 276 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: Kim was running around with Kim and she went to 277 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: the Paris Hilton School of Fame and you know, I 278 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: guess she made her teacher proud. But they kind of 279 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: divided a little bit. So Kyle wasn't really friends with Chris, 280 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: and that all happened later Kyle came together to be 281 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: good friends with Chris and Kathy always rolled in that circle. 282 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: But I think they've also become much closer and so 283 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: it was just like a different Hollywood world. She and 284 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: Maurice like are very you know, they're very high How 285 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: do I say this in the most positive way? They're 286 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: very high falutin like they just are. They roll in 287 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: a very different glamorous way than I do. And um, 288 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: I left the Housewives, and I didn't really follow a 289 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: lot of the housewives. It's not that scientific, like it's 290 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: not it's not you could go I've said this on 291 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: and Watch It Happens Live. You could go through my 292 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: Housewives follow and on follow or people fall. I'll follow 293 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: like a random weirdo dog owner or makeup person. I 294 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: won't follow someone I know and I'm friendly with. I 295 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: like Kyle, I care about her um, I find her 296 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: to be really fun. I like fair, I like her family. UM. 297 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: But I didn't follow her because it's a lot of 298 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: like housewife e stuff and I don't really care that 299 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: much about it. And in no drude way, I don't 300 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: know that I followed Dory for the same reason. I'm 301 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: sure she's a lovely person. It just doesn't really have 302 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: that much to do with me right now. So everyone 303 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: likes to make a big deal out of everything. But 304 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: my relationship with Kyle, and also I became friends of 305 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: Nikki years later, Like one night I went out with 306 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: Kyle and Nicki was there and we had a nice time, 307 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: and then I think Nicki invited me to Paris's birthday 308 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: party and I was wild and they were like, wow, 309 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: Bethany's fun, and we connected later. It's not like I've 310 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: been in touch with Paris and Niki since I used 311 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: to like watch them. I'd like to dine out and 312 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: pretend that's true. It's not even true, like it happened 313 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: years later we found each other in like this new 314 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: iteration of fame and just like like the nostalgia that 315 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: I used to babysit them, that was like an era 316 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: all this time. And I was never friends to Kathy. 317 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: Kathy was paying a check to me for of eight 318 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: dollars an hour, also for wrapping poorly wrapped Christopher Rago 319 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: ornaments at a gift store. Like Kathy and gift I 320 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: mean respectfully to Kathy, she doesn't give a shit about 321 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: it why and she's always been nice to me, But 322 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: like we're not on the same level. I was her, 323 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: I was. I was Kyle's friend, driving a forward probe 324 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: hostess at Lascala wrapping gifts. In her story, we weren't 325 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: exactly hob nobbing at the same parties. If I went 326 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: once to a Christmas party because Kyle invited me years ago, 327 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: but we were not at the same level. And I 328 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: ran into her years later and ask him to Lorna, 329 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: which I said, And then I became friendly or with 330 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: Kathy because Nikki and I connected and liked each other, 331 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: and NICKI invited me to her bridle shower and Kathy 332 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: was there and it was always nice to me. And 333 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: then now she's on the Housewives, so we reconnected a 334 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: role in the nostalgia of how I used to work 335 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: for her. But like that's the whole real story of it. 336 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: You know, if you go back and look at Housewives 337 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: the first couple of years, Kyle came onto the Housewives 338 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: with me. That's vintage. She was in a scene with me. 339 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: I wonder if they ever earned it, they might have 340 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: cut it out. It was at a hotel. She came 341 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: and shot a scene with me at the sixty Thompson 342 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: Hotel in Beverly Hills. On on when I came to 343 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: l A for Housewives, Kyle came on the show with me. 344 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: So that's my relationship with them. So, um, respect love nothing, 345 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: honestly but love. No. A lot of the family stuff. 346 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: As I said before, Um, but there's no, there's not. 347 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: That's the whole real story fact