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Speaker 2: a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn,

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Speaker 2: Jonas Knox.

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Speaker 3: In the air.

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Speaker 4: Everybody hears this song. Now, that's why I haven't changed it. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I gotta get mine done.

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Speaker 3: Got to get it changed. What do you mean everyone

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Speaker 3: hears it?

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Speaker 4: See you don't watch the games all like that. Well,

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Speaker 4: when you watch the games, you'll hear this.

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Speaker 3: I hear that song.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you, Like before every kickoff, like after a

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Speaker 4: score or something like that, you'll hear this. This is

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Speaker 4: the one, just the one they play. I like, there

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Speaker 4: it is right there. I want to say it to

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Speaker 4: the guys tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: There it is.

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Speaker 1: Every week I'm not. I don't even want this to

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Speaker 1: come off in anyway. There we go typically don't have

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Speaker 3: Or reason or or you're calling it.

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Speaker 1: Well I'm not doing that many but well I just

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Speaker 1: it's it's tough. You got five young kids in the house.

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Speaker 1: You know, they don't want to theyn't want to hear that.

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Speaker 4: Oh so I'm just messing anyway. But the interesting thing

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Speaker 4: is is I do be I hear it like like

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Speaker 4: multiple games.

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Speaker 1: From a show. I thought that was from Is it Scandal?

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Speaker 1: What was the name of the show? Oh, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: is it Patrick Macy or something like that. The first

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Speaker 1: time I ever heard this was what's that guy's name?

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Speaker 1: I was doing, you know, my my daughter's team, the

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Speaker 1: Oregon Ducks. That's when I heard the songs like this

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Speaker 1: is this song kind of hypes me up? Like I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of like I don't want to get hype, But

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Speaker 1: am I getting.

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Speaker 3: Hype right now? Like I'm feel like I'm this is

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Speaker 3: getting me William h.

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Speaker 1: Spacey, I was not even close from Shameless, Shameless, thank you?

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Speaker 1: I think that that songs and Shameless It's a good show.

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Speaker 1: I didn't finish it. It was a good show, yeah,

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Speaker 1: little redundant.

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Speaker 3: Do you have to finish a show for it to

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Speaker 3: be a good show. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I didn't finish Homeland, and I thought Homeland was a

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Speaker 4: good show. I have yet to finish Homeland. Did they

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Speaker 4: did it finish?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 4: Was there a conclusion to Homeland? I don't know how many.

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Speaker 3: Students a ton. I think a good show, I will

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Speaker 3: watch again and again.

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Speaker 4: I'll have it playing in the background when I'm not

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Speaker 4: even watching it, you know, and I definitely finish it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So a good show in your mind, you have

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Speaker 1: to finish, you have to do you have to finish

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Speaker 4: I don't feel like you have to finish a series

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Speaker 4: for it to be a good show.

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Speaker 3: Okay. How about do you have to see every episode?

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Speaker 1: Like like Seinfeld was around in an era where you

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Speaker 1: didn't have the ability, it's necessarily like tape it and

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Speaker 1: come back and watch like by like DVDs and stuff.

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Speaker 1: So do you at least have to watch every episode?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I don't never seen a full episode of Seinfeld ever once, But.

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Speaker 1: It's not that's not your humor. How about Breaking Bad?

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Speaker 1: Have you gy seen Breaking Bad?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Yeah? Now show like that, you have to make

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Speaker 3: it to the Yeah, I finished. We got to make it.

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Speaker 3: It was physically ill. It got a little depressing. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I was upset for like a couple of days after

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Speaker 4: I finished it, and I binge watched it. I've been

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Speaker 4: watched I binged it, like I think I took like

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Speaker 6: Game Game of Thrones, I've watched that multiple times. It's

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Speaker 6: just it's it's too long. I did it once. I'm good.

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Speaker 3: I don't need to go back and watch.

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Speaker 4: I could go watch Game of Thrones today. I could

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Speaker 4: go watch House and Dragons this first day.

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Speaker 3: I know what episodes dang, well, you're talking.

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Speaker 4: About Kyle Drogo, Drago, the Darth Rockey, the trackies, well

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Speaker 4: about Stranger Things Jonas, Oh here he goes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I watched it definitely. Oh yeah, I finished the

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Speaker 3: last season. Five came out.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the last episode came out.

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Speaker 3: Anything don't so I watched the first three.

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Speaker 1: I was starting to crack open, like I'm one of

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Speaker 1: the I have to be a d bag and do

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Speaker 1: like if I'm doing cardio, I can't like not do

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Speaker 1: something else if I'm doing cardio. So now I have

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Speaker 1: to like put on a show or something, and so

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Speaker 1: like IM, that's what I'm watching. And I realized I

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Speaker 4: So I've never watched one second of it.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of sci fi. You have to be in

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Speaker 3: the sci fi. I like sci fi.

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Speaker 4: I've just never I always thought Stranger Things was a

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Speaker 4: kid's movie.

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Speaker 3: Well it's what they do. And I told you this.

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Speaker 6: It's the The brilliant part about it is it's a

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Speaker 6: kid show, but it takes place back then, so parents

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Speaker 6: can look back, go I remember that, look, I remember.

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Speaker 3: It's like Little Mermaid. It's it's very relatable, like Little Marmade.

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Speaker 4: Daddy was a hoe, had a whole bunch of shorties,

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Speaker 4: different different, different ethnic background. I got a whole bunch

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Speaker 4: of kids, a whole bunch of daughters. One was more

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Speaker 4: special than the rest of them. She wanted what she

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Speaker 3: It, you know what I mean. Like he he was,

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Speaker 3: he was the same Mermaid, Little Mermaid. Yeah, he animated

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Speaker 3: or the live action, the original, It doesn't matter the original,

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Speaker 4: There's there is always adult context connected to Disney movies.

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Speaker 3: Well that's true. I mean, it just is what it is. Brady.

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Speaker 3: I'll just say this, no spoiler on Stranger Things. Oh,

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Speaker 3: here we go. You're you're a gee be on the

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Speaker 3: lookout for the forcing of something woke to the show

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Speaker 3: that was told. Oh already that's season four. I already.

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Speaker 1: I'm already like really like do we need to hammer?

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get into it. Man, everything's so forced,

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Speaker 1: is sating?

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Speaker 4: Oh I know what you're doing. Okay, all right, okay,

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty six. I got you agendas, Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 3: It's like thought, we just have a fun story that

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Speaker 4: Like yeah, like kind of like, you know, to introduce

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Speaker 3: Got it.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not even to introduce you to it. It's

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Speaker 1: just like because that's always been the case. But like

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Speaker 3: Interesting. It's like it comes out of nowhere. There's no

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Speaker 1: It doesn't tie into it, and you're just going, okay

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Speaker 1: into a kid, just as someone's got a got literally.

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Speaker 3: Nothing to do with any anything.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and for whatever reason, they got to make sure

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Speaker 3: So that we're literally got that ie across that tea.

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Speaker 6: want to hear somebody who's got no self awareness whatsoever,

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Speaker 6: get a whiff. Jimmy Haslam, the owner of the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 6: When there was some discussion about whether or not Andrew Berry,

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Speaker 6: current GM and now former head coach Kevin Stefanski could

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Speaker 6: get along, some of you said this.

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Speaker 5: Is a dysfunctional building. I'd take a huge exception of that.

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Speaker 5: The two of them work just like this, okay, and

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Speaker 5: they talk all the time. Their offices are basically next

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Speaker 5: the two of them work together extremely well, extremely well.

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Speaker 3: Started.

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Speaker 5: I can't and on that one thing, Tony. But if

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Speaker 5: anybody says this is dysfunctional, well though two of them

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Speaker 5: did not work well, but that's dead wrong.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 6: The question that was being asked was why would Kevin

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Speaker 6: Stefanski be surprised that Joe Flacco was traded in the

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Speaker 6: division in the middle of the year.

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Speaker 3: By the way, how many times does that happen? It's crazy,

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Speaker 3: It's great.

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Speaker 6: That's why Mike Tomlin was so outspoken about it, because

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Speaker 6: like Stefanski's a buddy of his and Stefanski it's it's

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Speaker 6: the most If you go back and listen to Stefanski

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Speaker 6: after that came out, it's the most frustrated I'd ever

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Speaker 6: heard him in Cleveland. I'd never heard him get frustrated,

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Speaker 6: be impatient anything with the media, even with all the

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Speaker 6: Flacco trade. I was the most frustrated he sounded because

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Speaker 3: Like, what is happening here?

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Speaker 1: I find it fascinating you have an owner who's taken

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Speaker 1: over as the majority owner back in October of twenty twelve. Okay,

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Speaker 1: in that time, they've fired seven coaches. The list of coaches.

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Speaker 1: Pat Shermer, Robchazinsky only got one year, and and I

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Speaker 1: guess in Jimmy Haslm's defense, he inherited Pat Shermer, but

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Speaker 1: Rozency only got one year.

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Speaker 3: That was his first hire, a guy who like bled.

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Speaker 1: Sweat everything for the Browns, you know, from that like

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Speaker 1: northern part of Ohio, and had been there with me

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Speaker 1: as an oc. He loved everything about that place, and

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Speaker 1: only gave him a year. Hire's Mike Petton, he gets

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Speaker 1: two years, he gets fired. Hire's Hugh Jackson, he gets

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Speaker 1: three years. We'll get into that. He gets fired, Greg Williams,

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Speaker 1: he steps in for half a season, whatever it was,

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Speaker 1: he gets fired. Freddy Kitchens one season, one and done.

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Speaker 1: He's fired. At least Kevin Stefans got more time, But

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Speaker 1: a lot of that was because when he first got there,

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Speaker 1: he wins the a PNFL Coach of the Year and

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Speaker 1: they end up going to the playoffs at eleven and five.

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Speaker 1: Next year got rid of Mayfield after they when a

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Speaker 1: nine missed the playoffs. Remember Mayfield's playing banged up, can't

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Speaker 1: figure out a long term contract. Whatever rift happened, happened.

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Speaker 1: You know, they bring in Watson, they'll go seven to ten.

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Speaker 1: Then Watson gets hurt and Flaker comes in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: another playoff year, but comes in as their fourth quarterback

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Speaker 1: that season. Stefanski once again wins Coach of the Year

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, guys. Does that sound like dysfunction?

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Speaker 1: What happens when you don't have like a clean sweep

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Speaker 3: Get interviews, it's Kevin Stefanski. And somehow Andrew Berry's safe in.

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Speaker 1: All this, Like he wasn't a part of arguably the

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Speaker 3: He was a part of that.

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Speaker 4: One playoff win, two playoff appearances in the last decade

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Speaker 3: That's dysfunctional.

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Speaker 4: The sun shines on a blind dog's ass once in

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Speaker 4: and that could possibly be what it is. But to me,

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Speaker 4: we're dysfunctional enough where we're getting the results that I

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Speaker 3: These are things that we have to address to me.

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Speaker 4: You take tremendous exception to the fact that there's dysfunction

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Speaker 6: Ask me, I mean, yeah, So basically, no self awareness,

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Speaker 3: So walk. Sometimes ego can get in the way of

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Speaker 6: If you've got a skid mark on your backside, at

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Speaker 6: you mean, what's the problem, dude? It's not teams wif

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Speaker 6: They have nobody and those are trades that happened not

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Speaker 6: There's multiple examples of stuff they've done where you're like, why, why,

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Speaker 3: You know, he was banged up this year. He was

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Speaker 6: Kevin Stefanski's going to get hired somewhere as a two

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Speaker 3: What do you mean?

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Speaker 3: I really don't get this is like Winny Johnson crazy.

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Speaker 1: And even the Watson deal in retrospect like that has

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Speaker 3: If you want to put on Jimmy Hasselm, so be it.

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Speaker 1: So it's just it's crazy to me that you can

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Speaker 3: Then sit there and say, oh, a general manager.

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Speaker 1: It's like once the season starts, it's more like coaching

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Speaker 1: That's really how he handled Daniel Jones slash Saquon, how

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Speaker 1: I've always find it interesting that in some instances we're

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Speaker 3: The guy is going to be a head coach.

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Speaker 1: If he wants next season, you just let go of

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Speaker 3: Coach of the Years.

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Speaker 4: It's not too many. Yeah, I can't off the top

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Speaker 3: The first rebuttal I would.

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Speaker 4: and one of those was traded to a divisional opponent.

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Speaker 3: It's like, it's like, hey, I'm by the way, yeah,

438
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Speaker 3: only three starters?

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Speaker 4: Only three d it was last year it was either

440
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Speaker 4: less because the season hadn't started, you ha cited. It

441
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Speaker 4: was one of the seasons that it was like at

442
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Speaker 4: least six quarterbacks played started or played for the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 3: I think it was six, I'm pretty certain.

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Speaker 1: And for all those Browns fans that are up at

445
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Speaker 1: about the manner in which I'm taking this or or

446
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I did pick them with the Super

447
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Speaker 1: Bowl or they go to the super Bowl like two

448
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Speaker 1: years and you did, Yeah I did, you did, And

449
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 1: obviously that was well off. So y'all can be upset

450
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Speaker 1: all you want, But I've been in this corner for

451
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: a long time as a childhood fan as a player,

452
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Speaker 1: which you know it was different ownership back then. And

453
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Speaker 1: this is the one thing I've always said like about

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Haslm is he's got deep pockets and he's willing

455
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Speaker 1: to spend and so as much as there is dysfunction,

456
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Speaker 1: like he still has the capabilities of turning this thing around.

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Speaker 3: Now you want to talk about the Raiders.

458
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Speaker 1: The Raiders are a whole different conversation and we can

459
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Speaker 1: talk about that tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Or there's some others. But like again, I think the

461
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Speaker 3: Giants have money.

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Speaker 1: There's other organizations where they don't have to necessarily go

463
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Speaker 1: out to raise capital or bring in limited partners to

464
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Speaker 1: get cash to then spend and turn this thing around.

465
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Speaker 3: Like Jimmy Haslm has money and he's willing to spend it.

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Speaker 1: We saw with the Miles Garrett Conchact, all the other

467
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Speaker 1: players contracts, Watson we mentioned, So that is the one

468
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Speaker 1: optimistic approach outside of we were drafting.

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Speaker 3: But also you have an ownerve that's willing to spend

470
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Speaker 3: that money.

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Speaker 1: He's not just trying to hold it all and make

472
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Speaker 1: a profit and take a bunch of money off the table.

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Speaker 4: I just think you got to change the name in

474
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Speaker 4: order to change the direction of the franchise.

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Speaker 3: Just start there. What are you going with? Start there?

476
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Speaker 3: You you skit mark.

477
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Speaker 4: If you got the skit mark on your trousers and

478
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Speaker 4: you're not going to take them off.

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Speaker 3: Then that's on you. I mean.

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Speaker 4: And the fact that they've been the diapers high whatever

481
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Speaker 4: it is you went down that lane.

482
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Speaker 1: Jonas had a close call with some dairy. That's why

483
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Speaker 1: he brings that up recently. What do you mean is

484
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Speaker 1: he because he has those real life experiences where he's

485
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Speaker 1: lactose intolerant.

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Speaker 3: Of army too, and he'll hit me up and be like, yep,

487
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Speaker 3: almost happened. Hey, by the way, almost happen.

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Speaker 6: Let's not Let's not act like you don't also fall

489
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Speaker 6: victim to that in the in the last couple of years.

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Speaker 3: All right, Brady is charge. I turned four and all

491
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Speaker 3: of a sudden, a lot of things change.

492
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Speaker 6: Freaks realize slowly that milkshake fetish that lands differently past

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Speaker 6: forty Dad.

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Speaker 4: That's good, all right. We had a long drive home.

495
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Speaker 4: I can sit well. I had that happen yesterday at

496
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Speaker 4: the barbershop. I was like, yeah, just wait till I

497
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Speaker 4: get home. Always always wait, do you guys happen to

498
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Speaker 4: have a restaurroom? It's the worst one. You got to

499
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Speaker 4: take a long time before you come out, Like if

500
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Speaker 4: you could be quick with your your you know, entry

501
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Speaker 4: and departure, it's yeah, but when you when you're at

502
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Speaker 4: an away game and you're in there for too long

503
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Speaker 4: a year.

504
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Speaker 3: Everyone knows there's no escaping man.

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Speaker 4: And then the worst is when somebody doesn't give it

506
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Speaker 4: that that grace period before they go in there. Oh no,

507
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Speaker 4: and you got to sit there and you're like looking

508
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Speaker 4: around like why you're gonna go in there?

509
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Speaker 3: Why why would you go in there?

510
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Speaker 4: And then the one time I don't have a lighter

511
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Speaker 4: with me, or they don't have a lighter in the bathroom,

512
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Speaker 4: but they have like incense or something like that that

513
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Speaker 4: could be lit.

514
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Speaker 3: I don't have a lighter. It was bad I had

515
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Speaker 3: or does it have to be a match? It needed to.

516
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Speaker 4: Be something that I could light something with fire in

517
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Speaker 4: order to take away knock down some of the arrogance

518
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Speaker 4: that came out of me.

519
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Speaker 6: Yeah, the problem is if there's a smoke alarm in there,

520
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 6: then no, that wouldn't have been that much smoke.

521
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Speaker 3: It just would have been like a little.

522
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Speaker 4: Yeah, not like that. That's a little extreme. That's a

523
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Speaker 4: little extreme. The crazy thing is when I saw it,

524
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 4: I was like, would I do it? Like, Nah, I

525
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 4: would choke. I would choke. That's too much. That was

526
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Speaker 4: too much. Yeah, all right, so it's too much. So

527
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Speaker 4: diapers know for a team name for the Browns, what

528
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Speaker 4: about the Steamers. I just think you got to change Browns.

529
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Speaker 4: I think you've already you're you've already set yourself back

530
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Speaker 4: by I want a Steamer be at this point, and

531
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Speaker 4: you're and your franchises like when when the when the

532
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Speaker 4: Mayflowers left, when they came back, they brought them back, Like,

533
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 4: think about it, You went from the Browns to the Ravens.

534
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: It pays homage obviously to their you know, legendary first

536
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Speaker 1: coach Paul Brown.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I get it, you know, I get it. But

538
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 4: we're so far away from Paul Brown.

539
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 3: We're so far away. Yeah, Like changing the name.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what one of their other options was

541
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Speaker 1: that they almost called them what was it, the Cleveland Panthers.

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Speaker 3: That I would have no problem with that.

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Speaker 4: Now that does have a little bit of conflict because

544
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Speaker 4: Pittsburgh has Panthers, and there is a very very long

545
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Speaker 4: lasting beef between Ohio and Pennsylvania. So I could see

546
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Speaker 4: if y'all didn't go with Panthers. But it sounds better

547
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Speaker 4: than Brown's. Yeah, that's all I'll say. So.

548
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Speaker 3: No, No, I believe if the if the story of

549
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 3: the legend is true.

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Speaker 1: They had a f contest to pick the name, and

551
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: that's what the fans picked. So it is an interesting

552
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: thing to bring up because maybe they have the fans.

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Speaker 3: Picked well, So here's a problem with that.

554
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Speaker 4: Then don't accuse the owner of being dysfunctional when the

555
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 4: fans are dysfunctional too. Because while I would love to

556
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 4: pay homage to Chuck Knowle, I would never want to

557
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 4: call the Sburg Steelers the Knowles Pittsburgh Knowles. No, I

558
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Speaker 4: wouldn't want to do it. Not bad, No, it's not bad.

559
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 4: It's not great, all right, better than Brown's. Yeah, not

560
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 4: a fan of the I knew you had to do it.

561
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 4: You had to do it, not hning you over.

562
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Speaker 3: All right, it's cot up next year.

567
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Speaker 6: We got some tough decisions that have been made in

568
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Speaker 6: the National Football League and they're yours right here on FSR.

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Speaker 6: You know what, you can walk into a nice pizza

570
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 6: and if you do it before the hut, well that's

571
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Speaker 6: a challenge with the quarterbacks from Pizza Hut.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 4: We got another message for the fans. Don't forget to

574
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 4: order Pizza Hut before the first hut is yelled Jonas Knox.

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Speaker 6: That's right, And here's the move. The Big New Yorker.

576
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 6: It is their biggest pizza for the biggest games. It's massive,

577
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Speaker 6: with slices so big you have to fold them like

578
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Speaker 6: true New York sivis.

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Speaker 3: And right now it's just ten.

580
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Speaker 4: Bucks, ten bucks, ten bucks to get all that pah.

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about the Big New Yorker. Pat that's right,

582
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Speaker 4: Grab the big one and fold it.

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Speaker 3: If you can handle it. You know what it is.

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Speaker 3: You gotta figure it out. And you know what game day.

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Speaker 4: Pizza Hut order. It could be the Big New Yorker,

586
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Speaker 4: it could be something else. Personally, I like the meat

587
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 4: lovers with some mushrooms too.

588
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Speaker 6: A huge fan, huge fan, not so much the mushrooms,

589
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 6: but a big fan of the Big New Yorker because

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Speaker 6: you know, man, like you were saying, bar, yeah, I

591
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Speaker 6: like to fold it.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know what, any big games this weekend, just

593
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Speaker 4: don't forget about the pizza before the hut because you

594
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 4: can get that pizza for ten bucks. That was a

595
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Speaker 4: bar and you know what, order the Big New Yorker

596
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Speaker 4: like jonahs it and don't wait, it's just ten bucks.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

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Speaker 2: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

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Speaker 2: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 6: Radio LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here

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Speaker 6: by the way. Coming up in about ten minutes from now,

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Speaker 6: we are going to have our midweek awards. The good,

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Speaker 6: the bad, the ugly. That'll be yours right here on FSR.

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Speaker 6: Not good news, I guess, depending on how you look

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Speaker 6: at it. Cliff Kingsbury is out as offensive coordinator in Washington.

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Speaker 6: That's a rap on his time with the Commanders. Seem

621
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Speaker 6: like wasn't that long ago he was getting some love.

622
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Speaker 6: Is potentially going to be a head coach again based

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Speaker 6: on his Jaden Daniels experience with the rookie year and

624
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 6: apparently that'll be that for him. Also a defensive coordinator,

625
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Speaker 6: Joe Witt Junior is out. It just feels like it's

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Speaker 6: a far cry from the conversations we were having about

627
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Speaker 6: the Commanders just a year ago. Now. We were talking

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Speaker 6: about this team making a run. They want a playoff game.

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Speaker 6: Then they won another one and upset the Lions, and

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Speaker 6: now less than a year later, they're looking for coordinators

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Speaker 6: kind of wild.

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Speaker 1: It leads or lends itself, and LeVar, I think you

633
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Speaker 1: could speak on it better than anyone, but Dan Quinn,

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Speaker 1: I guess you'd say he's on the hot seat. I

635
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Speaker 1: mean they also filed their line coach, Bobby Johnson day

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Speaker 1: Quinn's five he's five hundred right now as the head

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Speaker 1: coach of the Commandos, and he only had a sort

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Speaker 1: of quarterback for seven games this season. I kind of

639
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Speaker 1: look at it and think, like, did you really need

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Speaker 1: to make all these changes or was there not a

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Speaker 1: bunch of injuries.

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Speaker 3: And things that played a part? Like do you think

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Speaker 3: this is necessary? LeVar? I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's necessary because it's only his second

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Speaker 4: second season and like you said, Jaydeon Daniels was injured

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Speaker 4: for much of it, So I don't think it required

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Speaker 4: or that was basically necessary. But I would also say,

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Speaker 4: didn't we just have the same conversation that is applied

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Speaker 4: to our ball earlier in the show. It's like, when

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Speaker 4: you don't have success, there has to be someone that's

651
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 4: made the fall guy. And if you don't make somebody

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Speaker 4: else or something the fall guy for your self preservation,

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Speaker 4: then it's going to be you. It could have easily

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Speaker 4: been dan Quinn that was getting relieved of his duties

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Speaker 4: versus these these other people that are taking, you know,

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Speaker 4: taking the brun of it. So while I sit there

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Speaker 4: and say I agree, no, I don't think that there's

658
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Speaker 4: should have been that drastic of a change. You were

659
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Speaker 4: your one year removed from being a game away, and

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Speaker 4: some would say you were somewhat competitive against the Philadelphia

661
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Speaker 4: Eagles as well. You're a game away from the super Bowl,

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Speaker 4: you have a down year and your best player, who

663
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Speaker 4: is the catalyst of your offense and the catalyst of

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Speaker 4: your team is injured. Like why would you make wholesale

665
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Speaker 4: changes like that? No, I don't, but now it makes

666
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Speaker 4: it does raise the question is it different ownership, same old,

667
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Speaker 4: same old results.

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Speaker 3: Is it the same old movement? People were excited, they

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Speaker 3: were excited.

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Speaker 4: About the new blood, the new energy that that you know,

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Speaker 4: this this new ownership group has brought to the team.

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Speaker 4: But does this seemingly this season, what's going on now

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Speaker 4: with the dismissal and leaving of coaches, Does this now

674
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Speaker 4: put things back? You know, maybe it's reality, reality is

675
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 4: setting back in that maybe it's the same old team,

676
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Speaker 4: different name, different ownership.

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Speaker 3: But the same old team.

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Speaker 6: It's just I don't get it. I'm sorry, Like I

679
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 6: didn't understand you know, when the Texans fired Bobby Slowick

680
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Speaker 6: a year after you know, hey, the c. J. Stroud

681
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,479
Speaker 6: had that incredible rookie season. I didn't get that one.

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Speaker 6: And they've been able to overcome that, but I would

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Speaker 6: argue that, you know, maybe he hasn't looked the same

684
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Speaker 6: since that rookie season. I don't understand this one. I

685
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Speaker 6: don't know how you're not looking at this in totality

686
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Speaker 6: and realizing, well, you know, Austin Eckler got hurt, all

687
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Speaker 6: these other issues that popped up, like there's you know,

688
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Speaker 6: like that's outside of their control really, and yet for

689
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Speaker 6: some reason, this is the movie you make like it

690
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Speaker 6: just it feels a bit drastic. And you know, there

691
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Speaker 6: was some reports that Dan Quinn, you know, wanted to

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Speaker 6: lean on the run game war and that, but you

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Speaker 6: know there was a disagreement potentially between him and Cliff

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Speaker 6: Kingsbury on that regard. And it feels like Cliff Kingsbury

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Speaker 6: is a guy who's going to not be out of

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Speaker 6: work for very long, and it's another one of these

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Speaker 6: if he's that appealing to somebody else that he's going

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Speaker 6: to get a job almost instantaneously. Then why wasn't he

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Speaker 6: appealing to you and he was in your building?

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Speaker 3: It feels cold. It feels cold.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of cool by the way, cold Knights, they call

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Speaker 3: She store for more details. That's what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 6: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Here on Fox

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Speaker 3: Up at the top of your screen.

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Speaker 2: There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,

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Speaker 2: and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,

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Speaker 2: bad and lovely.

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Speaker 3: All right, Patty speaks, who's got what? All right?

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Speaker 8: Tell you we got good in the bad the ugly,

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Speaker 8: We're gonna go the good. There, Sheriffs, Sheriff Quinn, you

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Speaker 8: are the good.

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Speaker 3: Why are we doing this whole sheriff bit?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 3: What is what?

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Speaker 4: Because he's the okay.

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Speaker 3: Cowboy? All right? Uh? This is actually better than good.

742
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Speaker 1: This is great, and that is that we have the playoffs,

743
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Speaker 1: Baby NFL playoffs coming up this week.

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Speaker 3: More football, some new.

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00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 1: Blood in the mix too, you know, could the Jaguars

746
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Speaker 1: mix it up?

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00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 3: Obviously, Denver's gotta buy it.

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Speaker 1: But the Broncos, I mean, the AFC's playoff pictures looking

749
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Speaker 1: a little bit different these days. And then for I

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Speaker 1: guess we're called the old Wiley Sheriff Aaron Rodgers. The

751
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: Steelers win and they got in. Now can they go

752
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: on a run or is this Josh Allen's year to

753
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Speaker 1: make it through? Let's just call it a little easier

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Speaker 1: a f C playoff picture. But I can't wait for

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. I know I talked a lot of AFC.

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Speaker 1: There's some good NFC stuff going on too, but she

757
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Speaker 1: can't wait for the playoffs?

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Speaker 8: All right? A lock that will share it share? If not,

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Speaker 8: you're a come on, come on man, what you get?

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Speaker 6: There's a lot uh to pick when it comes to

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Speaker 6: the bad from week eighteen, Uh, there's just bad teams

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Speaker 6: that were pretty much mailing it in Clayton. Tune was

763
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Speaker 6: given the start by the Packers and then a few

764
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Speaker 6: days later they're like that's a wrap. Have fun, buddy,

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Speaker 6: We're gonna go ahead and sign Desmond Ritter up from

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Speaker 6: the practice squad. But I want to focus on the

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Speaker 6: AFC West. There were no offensive touchdowns scored in Week

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Speaker 6: eighteen by anybody in the AFC West. They all played

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Speaker 6: each other, the Broncos, the Chargers, the Raiders, the Chiefs.

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Speaker 6: Not one offensive touchdown was scored by anybody in that division.

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Speaker 6: It's been a lackluster, underwhelming year. Yet for some reason,

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Speaker 6: two of those teams are in the postseason and one

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Speaker 6: of them is playing this weekend. So my bad for

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Speaker 6: the week was the offensive performances from all teams in

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Speaker 6: the AFC West.

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Speaker 3: Right, unlock that lock that a lot. Well, well sarefore

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Speaker 3: you get the brother Well, let me go ahead.

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Speaker 4: And take a little bit of a shout at this one.

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Speaker 4: Here be FERRONI cowboy. Uh, I'm going with the transfer

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Speaker 4: portal as my ugly for the week. I just think

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Speaker 4: that that it can't end well for so many of

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Speaker 4: these young athletes in this being in this scenario, and

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Speaker 4: I think there are bigger conversations that are ensuing. I

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Speaker 4: think there's more information that is kind of surfacing that's

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Speaker 4: given a little bit more context to some of the

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Speaker 4: people that are entering into.

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Speaker 3: The transfer portal.

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Speaker 4: Maybe some of it isn't necessarily them looking for more,

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Speaker 4: it's that they don't have a choice. I think it's

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Speaker 4: kind of ugly. I think it's ugly where where things

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Speaker 4: are heading and and kind of how it feels I'm

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Speaker 4: currently with.

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Speaker 3: This trans it's for a portal. I feel like that's

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Speaker 3: that's my ugly for the week. You don't like the

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Speaker 3: portal party.

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Speaker 4: Hey, listen, man, I've always a portal portal, not only

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Speaker 4: you know, and some of these these cases, the amount

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Speaker 4: of it, I don't, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I do not like it. I do not like it ugly.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of ugly.

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Speaker 1: It is ugly, so we'll probably gets ugly. There's got

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Speaker 1: to be some ugly conversations. Did you see how arch

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Speaker 1: Manning's roommate is transferring? I believe the Oklahoma and he's

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Speaker 1: had a good year. It was just a matter of

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Speaker 1: they basically said, like, hey, you're probably not gonna play much.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna healthy. We got some portal guys coming in.

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Speaker 3: That's a rap.

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Speaker 6: That's a rap. Yeah, don't you know what though? What

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Speaker 6: Playoff is back tomorrow. No more of this stuff, no

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Speaker 6: more of these shenanigans. Now you just focus on the games.

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Speaker 4: Well, and we got another hour, we got a third

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Speaker 4: hour to co so there's that. That's a beautiful an hour,

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Speaker 4: three