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Speaker 1: Podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, June twenty third.

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Speaker 1: and who you would have drafted in this pretty silly

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Speaker 1: but fun The Perfect Mascot Squad podcast. And before we

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Speaker 1: roundup of the news, I just want to know, Lee,

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Speaker 1: where the hell were you this weekend? Were you in Alabama?

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Speaker 2: I went to sweet I'm in Alabama. Yeah, I just

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Speaker 2: had to add to a beautiful little farm out there.

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Speaker 2: It was great. The boys were milking goats that were

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Speaker 2: We found some blue eggs, cooked them up, we ate them.

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Speaker 2: It was really fantastic, little just it was only one night,

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Speaker 3: You didn't shoot up the rabbits like you did when

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Speaker 2: These rabbits, I wouldn't shoot these ones up. They're kind

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Speaker 1: So you also didn't have sex with the girlt right?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that that's definitely, definitely seems to

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Speaker 4: So are you really concerned? I'm not buying it.

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Speaker 2: I'm the same. I think the NBA is gonna get

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Speaker 1: What about though, Let's see the bubble sort of works. Okay.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of problems with it, as you

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Speaker 2: So that is a real situation that the league is facing,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. But who's to say that couldn't happen, right, Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 3: You know, Michelle Roberts did say I think there's they

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Speaker 3: having access to the campus, we will seek to implement them.

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Speaker 3: But either that is.

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Speaker 1: So you think you think we should maybe, but either

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna worry about Kelly Obrade Junior and the Suns

434
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Speaker 1: would have to win, like, you know how many games

435
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Speaker 1: they'd have to win, like eight of ten games? Right,

436
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Speaker 1: let's say that too. I'm including the two games sweep

437
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Speaker 1: of the of the number eight seed to get in

438
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Speaker 1: to face the Lakers. I mean, it's just it's not

439
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,359
Speaker 1: it's just not happening. It's not at all. So and

440
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Speaker 1: these are as all really good teams down there too,

441
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Speaker 1: so yeap, Aubray Junior says, no, I will not be going.

442
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Speaker 1: Maybe another reason. Yeah, like some of these sort of

443
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Speaker 1: fringe teams like the Suns and Wizards are just cut

444
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Speaker 1: from this whole experiment. It's possible, I don't I don't know.

445
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Another weird one here, ESPN The Blazers

446
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Speaker 1: Trevor Ariza opting out of the NBA restart because he

447
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Speaker 1: is committing to visitation with his son.

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Speaker 6: Task.

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Speaker 1: This one's I was a little different than a Berton's

450
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Speaker 1: and a Kelly Obrad junior, but he is opting out

451
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Speaker 1: of Orlando to spend time a one month visitation window

452
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Speaker 1: with his twelve year old son, who he's involved obviously

453
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Speaker 1: in a custody case.

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Speaker 3: Over you do you Trev? Good for him?

455
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Stay home?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's like, he's choosing a month of

458
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Speaker 1: time again with his young son over what I guess

459
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Speaker 1: he'd lose somewhere between a million and one point eight million,

460
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Speaker 1: depending if the Blazers got into the playoffs, and he's like, yeah, yeah,

461
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 1: all the money in the world probably doesn't you know,

462
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Speaker 1: mean anything to him, just for another month with his

463
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Speaker 1: son and again in a very tough custody case. So yeah,

464
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Speaker 1: that's just uh, you know, we're gonna find out. I said,

465
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Speaker 1: I guess we're gonna get these over the next couple

466
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Speaker 1: of days here, right, would you say?

467
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Speaker 4: Task?

468
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Speaker 1: It was, well, tomorrow is the deadline to decide, is that? Right?

469
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Speaker 3: Wednesday?

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Speaker 1: Get Yeah, So there's gonna be more because I don't

471
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Speaker 1: know if you've been how close you've been following the

472
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Speaker 1: w NBA. He's obviously gonna be restarting soon. There's been

473
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Speaker 1: a lot of like somewhat big names that are not

474
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Speaker 1: even deciding to go down and try the restart of

475
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Speaker 1: their season. So will we get more here in the

476
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Speaker 1: NBA in the next couple of hours, as soon as

477
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Speaker 1: we probably record finished recording this podcast.

478
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Speaker 3: But those WNBA players are staying home for social justice

479
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Speaker 3: reasons because they have they want to, They deem their

480
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Speaker 3: time to be better spent in another area. And Renee

481
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Speaker 3: Montgomery of the Atlanta Dream and Natasha Cloud of the

482
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Speaker 3: Washington Mystics haven't had one of those yet in the NBA,

483
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Speaker 3: and so that's a bit surprising. But these these two names,

484
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Speaker 3: you know, besides you know, Ubra Dallas, Berton's Trevor Reza

485
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Speaker 3: not huge names. And so everything's still going, you know,

486
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Speaker 3: according to plan with the NBA, according to their bubble plans.

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Speaker 1: The closest maybe we've got in terms of a headline

488
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Speaker 1: for what you were saying past is the Clippers. Lou

489
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Speaker 1: Williams said he was fifty to fifty on NBA players returning.

490
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Speaker 1: I assume he's talking about himself as well. Doesn't want

491
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Speaker 1: it to be a distraction. But again, he will ultimately

492
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Speaker 1: make that decision by Wednesday to inform their teams of

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Speaker 1: what they want to do. We will find out.

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Speaker 5: And that's what the interesting thing about Burton's choosing not

495
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Speaker 5: to be in the bubble was to me was that

496
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Speaker 5: immediately the Wizards basically came out and supported him, saying, yeah,

497
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Speaker 5: we're gonna be going after him in free agency. This

498
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Speaker 5: is fine, we understand his choice. Blah blah blah. We're

499
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Speaker 5: one hundred percent here for you. Hopefully, teams, when a

500
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Speaker 5: guy like Lou Williams decides that he wants to use

501
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Speaker 5: his voice for the Black Lives Matter movement outside of

502
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Speaker 5: the bubble, hopefully teams are right there ready to support

503
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Speaker 5: their players making that choice just as quickly as they

504
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Speaker 5: are for free agency reasons.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 1: Our next headline from the Detroit News, Troy Weaver hired

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Speaker 1: as general manager to help Pistons reach next level. Leally,

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Speaker 1: it's official Troy Weaver GM of the Pistons. He had

509
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Speaker 1: his press conference, talked about Blake Griffin and Derek Rose

510
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Speaker 1: still being a part of, you know, their immediate plans here.

511
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Speaker 1: He's got a lot of big things to figure out.

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Speaker 1: They're going to have a high draft pick, they got

513
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Speaker 1: a lot of cap space. What do you do with

514
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Speaker 1: those guys? Despite him saying, you know, we want to

515
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Speaker 1: keep them around, what's the first or big most important

516
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Speaker 1: thing you think Weaver has to deal with the Pistons here.

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Speaker 2: Well, with the Pistons, just before we get into that,

518
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Speaker 2: I mean, he has done his time here, Troy Weaver.

519
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Speaker 2: He has had an excellent career in the NBA, most

520
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Speaker 2: recently under Sam Presty there in Oklahoma City, and has

521
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Speaker 2: all the credentials. And I think that's what's great because

522
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Speaker 2: Troy Weaver is another black guy and this is not

523
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Speaker 2: just a token ism sort of signing here from the Pistons,

524
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Speaker 2: which I think is really important. They've identified the right candidate.

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Speaker 2: He's done his time, he's qualified, and he deserves a

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Speaker 2: chance like this. So I think that's fantastic for Troy.

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Speaker 2: And I think, yeah, well, I mean the first thing

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Speaker 2: I think you have most important thing is you have

529
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Speaker 2: to figure out what you're doing with Blake Griffin. I know,

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Speaker 2: again he said he wants to be a part of

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Speaker 2: his plans. I mean that sort of standard talk during

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Speaker 2: your first press conference, but if the Pistons are going

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Speaker 2: to move forward and they're going to build around Blake, okay, fine,

534
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Speaker 2: but I know Blake's not the same player he was

535
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Speaker 2: there in Los Angeles. He's still a good player, but

536
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Speaker 2: he's certainly not the sort of guy you think he's

537
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Speaker 2: going to take your French to the next level anymore.

538
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Speaker 2: So whether or not he decides to rebuild or to

539
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Speaker 2: cash in, and to cash in on Blake Griffin in

540
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Speaker 2: that sense, that's going to be his most important decision.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be hard to trade him, I think,

542
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Speaker 2: because he's still got a huge contract there. But you know,

543
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Speaker 2: Detroit's not the sort of city that's a free agent destination,

544
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Speaker 2: So he's going to have to be creative. He's going

545
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Speaker 2: to have to draft well, and he has a reputation

546
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Speaker 2: and a record for making some good suggestions and picks

547
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Speaker 2: there with the Oklahoma City Thunder. Most notably, he pushed

548
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Speaker 2: hard to draft Russell Westbrook way back in two thousand

549
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Speaker 2: and eight, and that is apparently one that Weaver was

550
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Speaker 2: credited with really sort of saying to Sam Pressy, go

551
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Speaker 2: and get this guy. And he turned out pretty well.

552
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Speaker 2: So he's a good he's got good credentials here, but

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Speaker 2: this is not an easy task in Detroit. It's not easy.

554
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Speaker 2: He is going to have to figure out how to

555
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Speaker 2: make this city and this team attractive, and that hasn't

556
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Speaker 2: been easy for anybody in the last few years, and

557
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 2: in fact hasn't really been easily ever easy for anyone

558
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Speaker 2: in Detroit because it's just not a place that players

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Speaker 2: want to go to won't play. So I wish him

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Speaker 2: all the best, good luck for him. I'm really happy

561
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Speaker 2: that he's got this opportunity. How he makes the most

562
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Speaker 2: of it now is going to be a great challenge

563
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Speaker 2: for him att But I just wish him all the

564
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Speaker 2: success because I think he's earned this opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you're right, he's got a big decision

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Speaker 1: with Blake Griffin, but a couple of things to that. One.

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Speaker 1: He's got experience with big trades in Oklahoma City. I know,

568
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Speaker 1: you know, Paul George and Russell Westbrook probably higher on

569
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Speaker 1: a lot of other teams list than a Blake Griffin,

570
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Speaker 1: an injured Blake Griffin, and older Blake Griffin. I get that.

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Speaker 1: But he, you know, was a part of those deals, right,

572
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Speaker 1: sending Paul George to the Clippers for all those young

573
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Speaker 1: guys or Sga and Gallinari and all the picks, and

574
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Speaker 1: then later Westbrook for Chris Paul and even more picks.

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Speaker 1: So there's that, and I actually think he's stepping in.

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Speaker 1: I know it's Detroit. We always make fun of them,

577
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Speaker 1: we always overlook them. I couldn't believe when I read

578
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Speaker 1: that Detroit is one of two teams that haven't won

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Speaker 1: a playoff game since the eight to nine season. Wow,

580
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: they've made the playoffs, but they generally get swept. The

581
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Speaker 1: Kings is the only other team I believe that hasn't

582
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Speaker 1: won a playoff game in that long Just wild. But

583
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Speaker 1: this isn't a bad hand, honestly to step in here.

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Speaker 1: You've got, like I said, I think something like the

585
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: fifth best odds at the number one pick right now,

586
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: so that could be even higher, potentially thirty million dollars

587
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: in cap space. You've already moved on from Drummond or

588
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: you know the previous you know, organization franchise has already

589
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: moved on from Drummond and Reggie Jackson in February. So

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Speaker 1: there's there's decisions on Blake and Derrick Rose. But it's

591
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: not brutal to me. Tasks. Am I wrong? Am I

592
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: being too optimistic with the Pistons and Troy coming in

593
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Speaker 1: here and getting to sort of mold it.

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Speaker 3: I am being optimistic, my man. I guess I guess

595
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Speaker 3: what you're being optimistic in relation to, though, is the

596
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Speaker 3: last few years where at least they're going in a

597
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 3: direction instead of going to mediocre land where they get

598
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 3: swept by the Bucks and by the Calves before that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I can't even I can't remember another playoff run,

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Speaker 3: but yet they got swept by Yannis. Is when when

601
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Speaker 3: Blake was hurt and I think we've seen Pete Blake unfortunately.

602
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Speaker 3: And you know when they made the trade for Tobias

603
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 3: Harris for Blake Griffin, it was, hey, we're trying something,

604
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Speaker 3: but you know, it came up to what it came

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Speaker 3: up to. Now it's not getting any better, at least

606
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 3: at the very least. Yeah, they traded drumming. They're going

607
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 3: in that direction. So good luck to Troy Weaver. Apparently

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Speaker 3: they tried to get him in twenty eighteen, according to

609
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Speaker 3: James Edwards on The Athletic and they couldn't get him then,

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Speaker 3: so they got him now. And another black executive is

611
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 3: good for the NBA, and I read a quote about

612
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 3: or a trajectory I guess about the Detroit Pistons and

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Speaker 3: how they're looking to go nowhere but up. They can't

614
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 3: go down from where they are right now, so I yeah,

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Speaker 3: Troy Weaver is probably a good man for the job.

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Speaker 3: I'm not really well versed in the assistant general manager realm.

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Speaker 3: I think none of us really know behind the scenes

618
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Speaker 3: what he's done. But yeah, he's put in his time

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Speaker 3: and ready to go, so good luck to him. At

620
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: least Tom Gores and the Pistons have a direction this time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what you mentioned task was surprising to me from

622
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Speaker 5: that James Edwards article that the Pistons wanted Troy Weaver

623
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Speaker 5: in twenty eighteen. They didn't get permission from the Thunder,

624
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 5: so they didn't hire a GM. They just went with

625
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 5: Ed Stefanski and arn tell him in their front office,

626
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 5: which kind of explains why the Pistons have been a

627
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 5: little bit lost over the past couple of years. But

628
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 5: it was also interesting seeing that Dwayne Casey is mentioning

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Speaker 5: that the team will be rebuilding and that they do

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Speaker 5: have a clear direction, because it feels like they do.

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Speaker 5: But it also doesn't really feel like the Pistons have

632
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 5: a clear direction until Blake Griffin is gone.

633
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Speaker 4: You're not really rebuilding.

634
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Speaker 5: If you're paying that much money to a past his

635
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 5: prime superstar, you got to get something for it. And

636
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 5: that'll be interesting to see if Troy Weaver really does

637
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 5: get the reins here, to see if he's actually the

638
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Speaker 5: guy who's the number one voice. I remember when the

639
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 5: Bulls signed Karnisiovus and everybody's like, this is going to

640
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 5: change everything, and it hasn't changed everything.

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Speaker 4: So you gotta let the guy do the job you

642
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 4: hired him for.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it will be fascinating to see if you can

644
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: trade Blake because he's got two years and seventy five

645
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: million dollars or something like that on its contract. It's

646
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,719
Speaker 1: got player option in twenty twenty one two. Yeah, that

647
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: will'll be impressive if they can find something in return

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Speaker 1: that they're excited about. They need They need to They

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00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: That's the truth. And I'm not a draft guru, so

651
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: I know it's not supposed to be a deep draft

652
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: by any means, but they need to get some luck here.

653
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Speaker 1: Jump up a little higher and get somebody that has

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Speaker 1: you can put people in the seats and to create

656
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Speaker 1: a little buzz around this team, they need that so

657
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Speaker 1: so desperately. You know, maybe it is I don't know

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Speaker 1: how good he's gonna be an NBA player, but maybe

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Speaker 1: it is like a Lamello, right, you could see that

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Speaker 1: They should. They should be wise though, they should do

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Speaker 1: definitely should explore that, and maybe that's something we will do.

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Speaker 1: each other. Okay. Some Knicks news. We found out that

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Speaker 1: they are now going to be interviewing Mike Brown and

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Speaker 1: Jason Kidd for their head coaching job. That brings the

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Speaker 1: Knicks coaching candidates list to ten eleven. I think something

706
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: like that. There's been a lot of names thrown around,

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Speaker 1: but task, what do you think about these two latest

708
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Speaker 1: in Mike? Is it Mike Brown or Mike Woods? And

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00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: I can't even keep them track. I think they got

710
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Speaker 1: both on their list. But it's Mike Brown and Jason

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Speaker 1: Kidd are the latest.

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Speaker 3: That's great. It's an interview. Interview everybody?

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Speaker 1: Why the interview? Every mic out there?

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Speaker 3: Every mic, let's see. I can't think of another MIC coach.

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Speaker 1: That's Michael Jordan.

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00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 4: No, that guy got to give an interview to Mike Miller,

717
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 4: their current coach.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they've got three Mics on this list. I'm

719
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Speaker 1: not even kidding. Mike Miller, Mike, Mike Woodson, incredible.

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Speaker 3: Get him in. I just don't care about the story

721
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 3: until they hire somebody. Really, but if you're hiring somebody

722
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Speaker 3: like Jason Kidd for the purpose of trying to lure

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Speaker 3: Ystat to goompo a guy that he coached with the

724
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Speaker 3: Milwaukee Bucks, then that's very short sighted if that's the deal.

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Speaker 4: But I completely forgot about that though. You're right, tass.

726
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 5: I remember when Jason Kidd was on his way out,

727
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Speaker 5: he made a point of saying, yeah, but Jannis wanted

728
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Speaker 5: to keep me around, and completely forgot about that. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Apparently Yannis liked him after he learned about Jason Kidd

730
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Speaker 3: being a good basketball player. He said, oh, you played basketball,

731
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Speaker 3: you were good? Yeah, yeah, I did some good things.

732
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 3: Oh okay, then you can teach me, teach me how

733
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Speaker 3: to be a point guard like you. And maybe he

734
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: loves him, but New York plus Jason Kidd does not

735
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Speaker 3: equal Yanis to goompo. I mean, there's a lot of

736
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Speaker 3: other things that would have to happen for him to

737
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Speaker 3: go there. So hire the best coach, but hire somebody

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Speaker 3: that can change the culture around that team. And it's

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Speaker 3: Mike Brown.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You know, a guy who's who's at least had some

742
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Speaker 3: experience that with with a great player in Lebron and

743
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 3: then went to Golden State, has had a lot of

744
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 3: experience in this league. So I wouldn't be upset if

745
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 3: Mike Brown or another Mike took the took the rains

746
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Speaker 3: in New York.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw the athletics Mike another Mike Mike working

748
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 1: up tweet the list of the known candidates here, it's

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00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: Tom Thibodeau, Mike Miller, Kenny Atkinson, Mike Brown, Ema Udoka,

750
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Speaker 1: Will Hardy, Chris Fleming, Jamal Mosley, Pat Delaney, Mike Woodson,

751
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: and Jason Kidd. I think that's eleven. Which did I guess?

752
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 4: Good?

753
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I cast cast your net wide here. But I mean,

754
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: for the longest time, Lee, we've just been thinking it's

755
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: eventually going to be Tom Thibodeau. Yeah, And maybe they're

756
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: just you know, maybe they weren't happy with the reaction

757
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: to that news. So they're like, well, let's just keep

758
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: interviewing other people and see see if people like Jason Kidd,

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00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: I guess, would rather have Tom thibode I don't know,

760
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: who do you think it's going to be ultimately from

761
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: that list, or who do you think it should be?

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00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, Well, well, I think they probably are

763
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 2: going to go with Thibodeau because that's what That's what

764
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 2: it sounds like. They that's their guy, that's they're focusing on.

765
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily think he's the right choice, but at

766
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: least they are casting the net here, and I think

767
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: even if it is just for optics, I think that's

768
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: important for the Knicks rather than just decide, okay, we're

769
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: just going to hire the first guy we interview. So

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00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: and you know, Mike Brown had some success of course

771
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 2: there when Lebron was in charge in Cleveland. They made

772
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: the finals, and Brown was considered a reasonable coach there

773
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 2: who understood just you know, you've got your best player.

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00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 2: Let him kind of dictate that there's no Lebron James

775
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 2: on the night though. I'm just saying, like, like he

776
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: understood at least like when you have the talent, You

777
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 2: just have to focus around the talent. The Knicks don't

778
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 2: have that talent right now, so that might go against

779
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: Mike Brown. But if they get Yannas, you know, yeah

780
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,959
Speaker 2: Yannis is a free agent, then why not. But you know, look,

781
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: the Knicks, it doesn't really matter who coaches the Knicks

782
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: right now. They just simply don't have enough talent to compete.

783
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 2: So it depends on what culture. Said do you want

784
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: in there? Do you want someone like Tibbs who's going

785
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 2: to be a disciplinarian and a hard guy, or do

786
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: you want someone who's going to be a little bit

787
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: more communicative like Udoka. Perhaps he's got a good reputation

788
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 2: coming out of San Antonio, so you know, who knows.

789
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 2: But at least I think what is important here is

790
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 2: the Knicks appear to be canvassing different coaches from different

791
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: backgrounds and different experiences to at least get a better

792
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: idea of what they want in a coach.

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00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, they should get just really creative and hire all them, right,

794
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: and give them all a couple of games. Let's just

795
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: have this have a coaching tournament from all the next

796
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: season between all these next guys who give them all

797
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Speaker 1: five games each. We're having six games each. See what

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00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: they can do with it.

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Speaker 2: Hey, survivor coaching survivor survivor. Yeah they have to Yeah,

800
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 2: they have to vote each other off each week. And however,

801
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 2: the last man standing gets the coach.

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00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 4: There, it's the Traine deadline. Good time to get in.

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Speaker 1: We will see. Yeah, I'm test I am with you

804
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: at this point. I almost feel bad for including this.

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00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: I just like, all right, just pick your coach already. Okay, like,

806
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: pick your coach. We can really zero in on that

807
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: guy and debate the pros and cons of him coaching

808
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: your New York Nicks.

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00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 5: That as our nick pr operative Lee Ellis has proven,

810
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 5: this is working perfectly. These are names you've heard of,

811
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 5: so you're like, oh, cool, the Knicks are doing a

812
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 5: good job by talking to people I've heard of.

813
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 4: It's that easy.

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00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 5: The bar is that low for the nixt All you

815
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 5: have to do is talk to somebody who played for

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Speaker 5: your team once upon a time.

817
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: Well, this is the staff man's influence. He's there. He's

818
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 2: out there saying listen, just talk to a lot of people.

819
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 2: That'll keep people happy. And then, depending on who Twitter

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Speaker 2: says you should, you should high just hi, that dude,

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Speaker 2: That's how it's gonna work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, They've got a nice mixture here, though, I would

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Speaker 1: say of like people coach names. You know, the guys

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00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 1: have been around for a long time, you know, former

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00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: players and jays Kidd. But there are some names that

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Speaker 1: as I went through that list from Mike Borkinoff, like

827
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: I was like, who the hell's Jamal Mosley? Pat Delaney?

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00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: Is that guy on a bonappetite? Like you know, there

829
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: was a lot of names, right, I like, I don't

830
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Speaker 1: even know who that person is.

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Speaker 2: But by the way, did you say Mark Jackson was

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Speaker 2: on that least? Because I didn't think I heard his

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Speaker 2: name inhal did not.

834
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Speaker 1: I did not say Mark Jackson. I think you're purposely

835
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Speaker 1: doing that. I didn't say Mark Jackson, Phil Jackson, Janet Jackson,

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Speaker 1: Mike Jackson, Jackson, Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson, ghost, Michael Jackson.

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Speaker 1: And I was gonna say one more. No, I can't

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Speaker 1: remember now anyway, Frank Jackson. Okay. Next headline from the

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Speaker 1: Athletic sources, Klay Thompson cleared to train without restriction on

840
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: his heeled knee, good news for Warriors fans. Obviously looking

841
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: ahead to next season because they won't be down there

842
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: in the bubble. Clay Thompson good to go.

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00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 3: Task totally forget that these teams from the Delete eight,

844
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Speaker 3: the teams that aren't going down to Orlando, are actually

845
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Speaker 3: going to have training camps in the summer to make

846
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Speaker 3: sure that they get to get some runs in and

847
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Speaker 3: not have to go basically like twenty months in between

848
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Speaker 3: the twenty nineteen twenty season and then the start of

849
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Speaker 3: next season. So Clay should be a go for that,

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Speaker 3: which is the best portion of this news for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I took the.

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Speaker 4: Same thing away from it.

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Speaker 5: It really does seem like a long time to not

854
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 5: play basketball when it's nine months off for these teams

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Speaker 5: that are in the Delete eight. They mentioned that Clay

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Speaker 5: is limited by his circumstances because they just can't have

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Speaker 5: ten players around to play five on five right now.

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Speaker 5: So at least makes a little bit of sense that,

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Speaker 5: you know, these teams that are going to be out

860
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Speaker 5: of the restart would want to do something because that's

861
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 5: a year, a whole school year. That's a long time

862
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 5: to not be playing professional basketball.

863
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 2: But for the Warriors, you know, Steph missed a lot

864
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: of last season, Draymond didn't have a really good season.

865
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 2: So coming into next season, whenever it starts, the Warriors

866
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 2: should be fresh and ready to go again. They could

867
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: you know, easily be in the top two or three

868
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: teams in the Western Conference. Yeah, next season if everyone

869
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 2: is healthy again. So good news, I guess for them

870
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 2: in that sense.

871
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like you got to remind yourself, this

872
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: was a team that went to five straight finals and

873
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: it's just like how exhausting that would be, so to

874
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: get like the ultimate refresh because of you know, sort

875
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: of injuries with a lot of these guys and obviously

876
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: now the pandemic and shutting down to the season all that,

877
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: and like extending that Like yeah, maybe that's like exactly

878
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: what they needed, as weird as that sounds, to come

879
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: back and be as as talented, as ever, as great

880
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: as ever with their with their star guys in Curry,

881
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: Clay and Draymond, if you could. And I'm interested to

882
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: see if obviously coming back from injuries, but like what

883
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: type of player is Draymond Green still at this point

884
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: in his career? Right? Was he just checked out mentally

885
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: and obviously on a bad team because of all the

886
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: injuries and just sort of had a down year, and

887
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: that's fair. And can you get right back to being

888
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: Draymond and leading a defense and stuff like that with

889
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: Curry and Clay if everybody's healthy. I mean, I think

890
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: so still for a year or two at least, but

891
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: we will see happy, happy news for the Warriors fans

892
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: there though. Final one, This is a good one. It's

893
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 1: a good headline USA Today calvs. Kevin Love is ESPN's

894
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: Arthur Ash Courage Award winner for his efforts in addressing

895
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: mental health issues. This was an sp award. Did the

896
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: SP's happen I think they did on Sunday night. Don't

897
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: know how they happened, but I believe they did. But

898
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: he got this uh Arthur Ash Courage Award for again

899
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: for those efforts in addressing mental health issues. I think

900
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: he gave something like half a million dollars to U

901
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: c l A as well. Good news here to end

902
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: this podcast with Kevin Love getting this award and rightfully so.

903
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he gave a lot of credit to DeMar

904
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 3: DeRozan for speaking out and basically saying, hey, tomorrow, you

905
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 3: spoke out, so that led me to speak out. And

906
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 3: I think that's led to a whole movement in in

907
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 3: the NBA and and even down to Orlando. There, the

908
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 3: NBA has advised them to have a mental health specialist

909
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 3: or an advocate or a doctor of some sort on

910
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 3: staff among their thirty five or thirty five people that

911
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 3: to bring down or at the very least have somebody

912
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 3: that you can tell, a doc, you can get online

913
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 3: with and discuss your issues of having to be in

914
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 3: town in Orlando for an extended period of time. So, yeah,

915
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 3: kudos Kevin Lovin Demarta Rosen. Takes a lot of courage,

916
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 3: a lot, a lot, a lot of courage to do

917
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 3: something like that, and I think that's for them to

918
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 3: try and normalize that in the NBA. I don't think

919
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 3: they were trying to do that at first, but they have,

920
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 3: they've they've made it, I think, pretty pretty commonplace now

921
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 3: for if we see somebody speak out, it's it's just like, oh,

922
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 3: somebody speaking out. It's just just sort of like part

923
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 3: of part of the NBA now, which is is really

924
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:47,479
Speaker 3: really good news.

925
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: Just going to say it's long being considered sort of

926
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 2: a sign of weakness if you say you have some

927
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 2: sort of mental health issue, but have you know, NBA

928
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: star players and all star players come out and acknowledge it.

929
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 2: I think is it really does set a new standard

930
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: for people to say it's okay if you're feeling down,

931
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: if you're feeling you know, you're not feeling yourself, and

932
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 2: to not be ashamed or embarrassed about it. And it's

933
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: it's very important issue that so many people are dealing

934
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 2: with around the world. And again to have some faces

935
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 2: that we recognize, some people who we sort of look

936
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: at and think, well, you've got all the money in

937
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 2: the world and you've got all the stardom and fame,

938
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 2: but that doesn't always necessarily mean that you're always happy.

939
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 2: So very very important and good, you know, to get

940
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: the recognition here for Kevin Love, and I think I

941
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 2: think that's important because it's an ongoing battle and not

942
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: one that anyone should sort of feel that they can't

943
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 2: talk to anybody about.

944
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, guys doing their part, like you said, Love to

945
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 1: erase that that stigma around anxiety and depression and stuff

946
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: like that and being vulnerable. For sure, good stuff, well deserved.

947
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 1: Should have give it to I should have done a

948
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: co winner though, I think you're right, give it a

949
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: derosan and Kevin Love there, come on, come on, yeah,

950
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: a hover All right, guys, we'll call it there with

951
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: the NBA headlines, I'm sure in the next couple of

952
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: hours or over the next twenty four hours or so,

953
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: there will be a lot more, maybe in regards to players,

954
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: maybe even teams for all we know, addressing this idea

955
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: of heading to Orlando, because that's happening very soon, or

956
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: you got to lock in your your personnel, your thirty

957
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: five team personnel, player personnel. We'll find out. But tomorrow

958
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: we'll hit the beach. Get your emails in No Dunks

959
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 1: at the Athletic dot com, tweet them in at No Dunks, Inc.

960
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 2: JD.

961
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: Before we go, I just wanted to say you shared

962
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: one of my favorite photos from the past couple of months.

963
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: You and your boys holding your skateboards and your longboards,

964
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: looking like the most badass group of doyles I've ever seen.

965
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 1: So you've looked like you got some got some reps

966
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: in over the week.

967
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 6: I got some reps in no falls, no falls, three

968
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 6: days in a row.

969
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: Been out there.

970
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 6: Haven't been going very fast, to be honest, but you

971
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 6: know people are people are avoiding us like that.

972
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: What do you mean because you looks so.

973
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, we just look we just look like we uh,

974
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 6: we're we're going through the park, which is basically empty,

975
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 6: but you know, people are sort of looking at us, going,

976
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 6: who are these Who is that old guy with those

977
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 6: two kids?

978
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 2: You know, they're saying, here's that really cool old guy.

979
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 6: I do that very much.

980
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 2: But I have to say, the helmet with your beard

981
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: and glasses, it just measures perfectly.

982
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 1: It's so cool. I love the socks. Look.

983
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, I got to protect those ankles, I guess.

984
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: I look. I look at that photo and I say,

985
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: oh damn, I wish that was my dad.

986
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 6: They've they've reached the age where they're basically my roommates,

987
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 6: now roommates that I can boss around, roommate, go do

988
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 6: the dishes?

989
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,479
Speaker 1: Are you still the tallest member of the three?

990
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 6: I am not. I am. That's why I left the

991
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 6: helmet on for the that's right, and.

992
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 3: The old tall boy Lincoln. He doesn't have an Instagram.

993
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: Kind of doesn't.

994
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 3: He doesn't have a phone, does he?

995
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 6: They he does have a phone, but we don't allow

996
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 6: the social media, not not before they're twenty one, as

997
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 6: far as I'm concerned.

998
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 1: Good luck with that one. Yeah, Yeah, roommate sucks man.

999
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: He pays all the bills and pays the rest on Instagram.

1000
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: All right, good call, cool dad. All right, clipper pros.

1001
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: You heard it here first.

1002
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 4: Have a great time, turn up. Love you guys awesome.

1003
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. And remember goats like to be

1004
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 3: milked by hands that they.

1005
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: Know it breaks the day. People.

1006
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: You could stay.

1007
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: Every day and Dad be happy every minute. It's been

1008
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: so long with your way.

1009
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 3: He's happened already. It's gonna be grey.