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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Big Blue Kickoff live right

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Speaker 1: here on Giants dot Com. He's Datino, I'm Schmolke, and

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Speaker 1: you're giving us a call hopefully at five one three.

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Speaker 1: We have some open lines and we are another ringing

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Speaker 1: already though, so get in there if you want to

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Speaker 1: talk some football with Paul, some Giants football. Um, no

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Speaker 1: new information, Paul, since we kind of last spoke. There

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Speaker 1: was no practice yesterday, no practice yet today. They'll be

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Speaker 1: one in a little bit. Uh, starting to get at

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Speaker 1: forty five. And if you're still planning on coming to practice, folks,

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Speaker 1: last Paul and I heard as of forty five minutes

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Speaker 1: ago or so, is that they're still planning having to

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Speaker 1: practice outside. It has not begun to rain again. Um,

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Speaker 1: So if you have tickets to practice you want to

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Speaker 1: come down, I still suggest you make the drive, even

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Speaker 1: if it's a long one and they will try to

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Speaker 1: practice outside. It looks like the rain might not come

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Speaker 1: to four thirty five o'clock based on some of the

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Speaker 1: radar I've seen, which means that's after practice, which means

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Speaker 1: you still get to watch it from the stand. So um,

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Speaker 1: if you have tickets today, I would still suggest you

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Speaker 1: come on down and uh, check out practice, Paul. They

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Speaker 1: kind of ran back up again today, Um, after a

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Speaker 1: day off yesterday, which would be good. The players needed

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Speaker 1: fraccas they had on the field on Monday afternoon, which

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Speaker 1: you know, fifth the fact that it took it to

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Speaker 1: the fifth day of practice in third strade day have

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Speaker 1: was a bit of an upset, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: but it happened, and now they'll ramp it up again today. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, coach Hermer said, today is gonna be a

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Speaker 1: full pass practice again after the guys had the day

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Speaker 1: off yesterday. And the way he's explained it to us

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Speaker 1: He said, the first three days, we're gonna have those, well,

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Speaker 1: the first three days in a row of padded practices,

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Speaker 1: and then we're gonna play it by ear after that.

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Speaker 1: And that was Saturday, Sunday, Monday, correct, And then today

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Speaker 1: he said, well, we had the day off yesterday, so

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get him back in pads again today and

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Speaker 1: probably three in the next four days. If I understood

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Speaker 1: his sentence correctly. And they practiced, folks, Just so you know.

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Speaker 1: They practiced today, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday before a Sunday

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Speaker 1: off day. So uh, it's obvious that he sees value

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Speaker 1: He's allowed to. As we have discussed ourselves, John, Uh,

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Speaker 1: we are unsure maybe going into the camp exactly what

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Speaker 1: We have since found out he's actually allowed one padded

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Speaker 1: the first two days of camp you can't do him,

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Speaker 1: and then after that you can do as many as

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Speaker 1: limited in the numbers of padded practice, yes, but in

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Speaker 1: I'm bringing it up because we want to be clear

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Speaker 1: this point, it looks like he would prefer to go

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Speaker 1: today did occur. We are from both Pat Shermer and

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Speaker 1: bouquets of flowers lightly. No, especially not the young guys

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Speaker 1: The other thing that he said that to me was

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Speaker 1: lead off with Lenn in Columbia, Maryland. He's up first today. Hello, Len,

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Speaker 1: pitty Ejohn, I think when you get to Detroit, you're

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say it anyway. I really think it's

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Speaker 1: who cares. The offense has looked gone out there in

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Speaker 1: to ask today, you don't you don't want to be

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Speaker 1: two in six and you know what to buy? Uh,

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Speaker 1: It could very well be the three, four and five

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Speaker 1: wasn't the wan on the house steak guy too competence.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Scott New Mexico. He's up next. Hey Scottie, Hey,

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Speaker 1: hey guys, how are you doing? Uh? First, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to echo some of the comments I've heard over the

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Speaker 1: past few weeks from fans calling in stating how truly

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Speaker 1: skillful the job all of you do you? John Paul

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Speaker 1: Wyns and Jeff in making your analysis of the New

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Speaker 1: York Giants and the upcoming season. Uh, your shows have

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Speaker 1: become an addictive vice for me personally because I've changed

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Speaker 1: medical appointments so I can actually see the Giants at

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Speaker 1: this point instead of watching it earlier at turn o'clock.

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Speaker 1: So my wife's is extremely mad at you guys, but

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Speaker 1: I really didn't care. I told her where my priorities are,

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Speaker 1: so she's accepted it. Boy. Well, I'll let me say

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Speaker 1: something very quickly, Um Scott as someone that's relatively newly

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Speaker 1: married and and Paul's been married for a long time now, Um,

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Speaker 1: just be very careful and it's five years for me,

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Speaker 1: so I have nothing to worry about at this point.

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Speaker 1: Very nice, very nice. Uh, Paul. I wanted to give

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Speaker 1: a shout out to you because I know had wished

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Speaker 1: me well and I didn't have a chance to thank

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Speaker 1: you for that. So I just want to do that

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Speaker 1: good at this point. Absolutely. Uh. Today, although I gather

447
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Speaker 1: I'm probably going to be in the minority opinion again

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Speaker 1: that the Giants will be a Super Bowl contender this year,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to talk about the faith I have in

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Speaker 1: both James Beecher and pet Schirmer's coaching abilities in contributing

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Speaker 1: to hopefully making that a reality. And to me, it's

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Speaker 1: not simply a pollyannish view coming from a die hard

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Speaker 1: Giant incident of which I probably am, but it's rather

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Speaker 1: based on some past criteria about both James and Pet's

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Speaker 1: role in their previous positions on other teams. So I'll

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Speaker 1: start first with James S. Petterson's defense seems to be

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Speaker 1: the bigger bone of contention, I guess this year for

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Speaker 1: the Giants in his tenure at Arizona, while d C

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Speaker 1: his defensive years finished sixth overall in I believe, and

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Speaker 1: that's despite losing Calais Campbell, Tony Jefferson, and Kevin Mintor,

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Speaker 1: who were all UH component parts of the previous year's defense,

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Speaker 1: and under Becheler, Tremaine Williams, who only played a partion

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Speaker 1: portion of the season, had his best year, and I

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Speaker 1: believe he had been in the league for eleven years

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Speaker 1: with Green Bay and some other teams. At that time,

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Speaker 1: UH in Arizona was ranked second overall and fifth in

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Speaker 1: so recognizing personnel is different year to year. Why would

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Speaker 1: it be so implausible from the Giants with this current

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Speaker 1: defensive RUSS to duplicate what transpired in in Arizona? Isn't

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Speaker 1: that what Betcher was essentially brought in for and doesn't

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Speaker 1: he have the track record to back it up. I

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Speaker 1: think he's excellent. I don't you kind of glossed over

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Speaker 1: the personnel a little bit in Arizona? And I think

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Speaker 1: that's a little bit of a mistake. Yes, it does

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Speaker 1: change from year to year, and it's encouraging that year

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Speaker 1: to year he was consistent despite the changing personnel. But

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Speaker 1: if you look at the high draft picks that they've

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Speaker 1: committed to that defense in the front front seven and

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Speaker 1: been back for over the course of the years, he

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Speaker 1: had a lot of tools to work with there. So

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Speaker 1: no one was happier about the bet Your sign than

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Speaker 1: I was. I think he's an excellent coach at these

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Speaker 1: to do a great job, but top five you gotta

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Speaker 1: be pretty special, to be quite honest with you, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure they're quite at that level yet. And

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Speaker 1: quite frankly, and I don't mean to be a bit

487
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Speaker 1: of a Debbie downer, the NFC West wasn't exactly dynamic

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Speaker 1: offensively for a lot of those years. To two games

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Speaker 1: against a horrible forty Niners team, two games against horrible

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Speaker 1: ram Rams are horrible until last year, and then the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks were primarily a defensive minded team. They didn't score

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Speaker 1: a ton of points either, so I think that also

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Speaker 1: probably helped those numbers a little. I think I think

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Speaker 1: the one caveat that I'd like to give you, John

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Speaker 1: is that you know, a couple of years back, Spaggs

496
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Speaker 1: was working with a very banged up and and very

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Speaker 1: substandard unit, and they were last in the league alright,

498
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Speaker 1: either thirty one or thirty two, depending upon what ranking

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Speaker 1: you were looking at, And you know they had a

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Speaker 1: couple of pieces. But then what happened after they brought

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Speaker 1: in three big free agents, all of a sudden, they

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Speaker 1: were the number one defense and the FC and no

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Speaker 1: matter what ranking you looked at, they were in the

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Speaker 1: top five in the NFL. So they did a nearly

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Speaker 1: worst to first within one year by bringing in three

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Speaker 1: big time free agents in vets in their prime. Correct, Now,

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Speaker 1: this team, we know how poorly they ranked defensively last year,

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Speaker 1: but they have done a significant amount of work on

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Speaker 1: this defense. Ogle Tree is in here, you know b J.

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Speaker 1: Hills and here he's gonna be a big time player

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Speaker 1: for them with Tomlinson's uh are gonna be a much

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Speaker 1: better plash. It isn't the same amount of editions that

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Speaker 1: they had two years. It's not the same in terms

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Speaker 1: of the big splash, but I think in terms of quantity,

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Speaker 1: Kareem Martin is in here, Lorenz o'carter is in here,

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Speaker 1: but he's gonna compare that to the top d N

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Speaker 1: in the market at the top cornerback on the big splashes.

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Speaker 1: But more in terms of quantity, the whole linebacking course

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Speaker 1: different Ogle Tree, Barwin, Kareem Martin, Lorenzo o'carter. They've totally

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Speaker 1: rebuilt the linebacking unit. So what I'm saying is they

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Speaker 1: have haven't made the big splashes, but they've made more

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Speaker 1: changes to this defense. I don't think it's too much

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Speaker 1: to ask for them to be a top twelve defense. No,

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Speaker 1: I think that maybe even a top ten. They don't

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Speaker 1: have to be top five for the Giants to be

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Speaker 1: a possible playoff conversational team. If to me, it's a

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Speaker 1: success that they're a top fifteen. If they're there, if

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Speaker 1: they're in the top half of the league, to me,

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Speaker 1: it's a successful season. My health is going to be

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Speaker 1: a bigger factor than any of this other stuff, because,

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Speaker 1: let's face it, we also know that there are certain

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Speaker 1: guys on defense they're not gonna be able to afford

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Speaker 1: to loose. Let me put it this way, I feel

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Speaker 1: much better about this offense being a top twelve offense

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Speaker 1: do I feel about the defense being a top twelve defense.

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Speaker 1: And it's not close right now. You have to say

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Speaker 1: that because even with Barkley being unproven and Hernandez technically

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Speaker 1: being unproven, there are more proven star players on that

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Speaker 1: side of the ball, of course, but that does not

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Speaker 1: mean that there's not that kind of potential on defense,

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Speaker 1: because I think it's realistic. On as many great players

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Speaker 1: on defense are there aren't. There aren't, But I I

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Speaker 1: believe the point. I believe there is easily the potential

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Speaker 1: for this to be a top twelve defense. I really

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Speaker 1: believe that's realistic. Okay, well, let me turn to pet

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Speaker 1: Hurmer his tenure with Minnesota. I'm not going to cite

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Speaker 1: team statistics, but I'm going to cite the confluent just

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00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: two players case Keenom and Adam Feeling in in three

549
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Speaker 1: years with Houston, an necessary of the St. Louis flash

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Speaker 1: l a case never rose above and eight quarterback rating.

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Speaker 1: His one year with Pat, his quarterback rating was night

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Speaker 1: point three and his completion percentage was the highest it's been.

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Speaker 1: It was sixty seven point six, which led to him,

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming, receiving his MEGA contract with Nembu Adam DeLand

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Speaker 1: prior to Pat's arrival, had eight receptions in twelve and

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Speaker 1: fifteen sixty nine and sixteen, which I think is the

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Speaker 1: transformation year from North Turner to product believe, and then

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Speaker 1: nine one in seen under Pad. So the car lation

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Speaker 1: here as to both players improvement and Pad arriving should

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Speaker 1: be obvious. And I'm not sure where that the offense ranked.

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Speaker 1: I think it was every but I'm not absolutely sure

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Speaker 1: of that. But with the super talent, the Giants have

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00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: a humors, it's so far fetched that they will not

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Speaker 1: only be vuying for a playoffs, but but going beyond.

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Speaker 1: And Roger Louis is going to be All Pro this year.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but certainly they have the

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Speaker 1: three best receivers. I'm talking about the two wide receivers

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Speaker 1: under tight end and in the NFL. I know somebody

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Speaker 1: brought that question up yesterday, but I can't think of

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Speaker 1: a better trio of receivers and the three of the

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Speaker 1: Giants have Thank you, Scott, appreciate the calling my friends. Okay,

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Speaker 1: take care, thank you. Look. I don't think either one

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Speaker 1: of us argued that we think the offense and defensive

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Speaker 1: schemes are set up to be pretty successful this year.

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Speaker 1: No one's gonna argue that, but we need to see

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Speaker 1: a translate the production first. I don't like to get

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Speaker 1: ahead of myself off a week of practice and training. See.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that I think you all have to

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Speaker 1: understand in terms of being yellow flag waving in front

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Speaker 1: of you, is that you know, we all talk about

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Speaker 1: if a quarterback, it's certain the NFL, that's a devastating

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Speaker 1: injury because how many people can go with a backup quarterback,

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00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: very few eagles of one of them and still survive. Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: I think the Giants unfortunately, and this is part of

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Speaker 1: what happens when you're trying to retool and reconstruct the team,

586
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: especially on the fly, you have a number of thin

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Speaker 1: positions here. If Odell Beckham gets hurt, that is a

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00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: significant problem, as we've talked about and we saw last year.

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00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: I also don't care how much depth you have a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. If you lose a player of Odell Beckham

591
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Speaker 1: juic caliber, it's gonna kill you. If they If if

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Speaker 1: they lose alec Ogletree, that's gonna be a huge problem.

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Speaker 1: You even miss the most important guy. Okay, if they

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Speaker 1: lose Landing Collins, that is gonna be a huge problem.

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Speaker 1: If they lose Nate Solder, that that is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a huge problems. My number one on offense and my

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Speaker 1: number one on defense, gener Jenkins. I don't have a

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Speaker 1: problem with you saying that either, But oliveave Vernon, who

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Speaker 1: hell's rushing in the past. So so, in a lot

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Speaker 1: of cases you can point to some of the quote

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Speaker 1: playoff teams and say, all right, the quarterback could really

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Speaker 1: really hurt them if he gets knocked out of the lineup.

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Speaker 1: But with the Giants, they're in such a fragile situation

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Speaker 1: because they are so thin at so many other spots,

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00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: a half dozen to seven guys that can they bake

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Speaker 1: the year? Yes, that's that's the yellow flag, folks. If

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Speaker 1: the Giants stay healthy like they did back in two

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Speaker 1: thousand eleven, okay, when they were relatively healthy, across the board.

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Speaker 1: Beatty was their big injury in eleven. Right, they could

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Speaker 1: make they could make some Hey, they could actually get

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Speaker 1: into that playoff conversation. But if any one of those

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Speaker 1: like six or seven guys winds up with a debilitating

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Speaker 1: injury on Barkley into that mix, yeah, well you probably could.

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Speaker 1: You probably could. Although Stewart and Goldman can probably get

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Speaker 1: some semblance of a running game going if the old

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Speaker 1: line is right. But they're they're walking a tight rope

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Speaker 1: here with a number of make or break players. Is

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Speaker 1: that fair? I don't disagree at all. That's the warning

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Speaker 1: sign that I give you. That's the warning sign. Four

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Speaker 1: or five? One, three? Let's go to Antonio. Manhand, he's

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Speaker 1: up next to Antonio. Hey, what's going on, John? What's

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00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: going on? What's up? Hi? So I yet, you know,

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Speaker 1: Paul just just stole the thunder from me. Right now.

624
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say to that fan that just called in,

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00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: they just you know, just we are a hype and

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00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: we think Johns are gonna go to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I mean we're so thin and we lacked death. Um

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Speaker 1: that you know, just anybody gets hurt and and just

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Speaker 1: gets just remember that Alec Ogletree had a terrible season

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Speaker 1: last year. He was hurt um, but he did have

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Speaker 1: a terrible season, and we just hope that we get

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Speaker 1: somewhat of of a of a good play from him

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Speaker 1: because his play has been declining as the years has

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Speaker 1: been going. And that's why the real reason why Stander

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Speaker 1: was got rid of him on top of time out,

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Speaker 1: time out, I need to clarify that just a little bit. Okay,

637
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Speaker 1: Ogiltree did not fit that scheme very well, and that's

638
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: the primary reason, besides salary cap issues, why they jettison Tim.

639
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: He is a running hit or a chase and hit linebacker.

640
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: That's not what the No, that's exactly right. So the

641
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: rams are built more for that kind of guy. I'm sorry.

642
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: Are we gonna also have pretty much no, no, that's

643
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: he in this defense with the guys in front of him,

644
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: specifically Snacks, he is gonna be allowed to be a running,

645
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: chase or chasing hit linebacker. Though this is a better

646
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: scheme for him. They're not running a two gaps scheme though,

647
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: where Snacks is taking on multiple line understood, understood, But

648
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: this seme going you have to understand something. Part of

649
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do with the two inside backers. And

650
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: I've talked to b J. Goodson about this. He's gonna

651
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: be the more clogging guy inside the tackles so that

652
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: Goodson can do not except ogle Tree could be more free.

653
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: This scheme is designed to get ogal Tree free, a

654
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: Rome sideline to sideline. The Rams scheme was not that way.

655
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: He was a bad fit, so please understand them. But well,

656
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Paupa. Here's the thing too, there's

657
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: also coaches on the other side, and they're gonna try

658
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: to scheme to get ogle Tree to that position where

659
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to shet up. You know, hopefully he will,

660
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: but you never know. I mean hopefully there's something that

661
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: he worked in the off season because he I'm sure

662
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: he knows his own problems. This is this goes back

663
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: to what Betro said though about It's schemes are great,

664
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: but I need to make sure that I get my

665
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: guys there one on one matchups and they gotta win

666
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: them well, because Goodson's gotta do what he's gotta do

667
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: in the front line. Gotta do what they gotta do,

668
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: and if they do, ogle Tree is gonna be free.

669
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: That's the whole idea. So the only way that I

670
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: can see for the Giants to have real success this

671
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: year is two things. Like you mentioned, we stay healthy,

672
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: but we also need heavy production from our rookie class.

673
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: That's the only way that we're really going to be

674
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: competitive this year. If not, you know, we might have

675
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: a good, a decent season. It's not maybe missed the playoffs,

676
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: but at least we are now going towards the right

677
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: directions to building a foundation. Just remember, guys that you know,

678
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: in the years before, our mid to late picks have

679
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: not panned out for us, even first round picks. So

680
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's it's we're just rebuilding now from

681
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: square one. Our team looks good in the surface, but

682
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: we just needs you know, underneath, underneath the iceberg, it's

683
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: a mess. So you know, that's what we need to do.

684
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: And just don't wanted to touch base on Shula. Um

685
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: you know, I it's Jula involved in any type of

686
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: offensive game plan or is it just gonna be Sherman's

687
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: game plan and Shula has been going to be conducting

688
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: it just because I'm just really scared about Shula. If

689
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: it wasn't because of Cam Newton. He would he should

690
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 1: have been like out of the league by now because

691
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: his offense. I mean that that caroline of offense was

692
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: just terrible anytime they had to throw the ball. Well

693
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: and Tonio, we had if I don't love you listened

694
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: back in June, we had a reporter that that that

695
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: covered the Panthers on and they she talked a lot

696
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: about how Shula's strength is play design and things of

697
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: that nature, and that is what he's going to be

698
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: involved in her play design and the game planning part

699
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: of it. He's gonna do what Pat Merembert Tellson do obviously,

700
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 1: but he is going to have a hand in putting

701
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: game plans together. But it'll be Suremer that executes that

702
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: when he calls the plays on game days. So I

703
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: think that's gonna be his primary role. And I think

704
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: what they're gonna ask Mike Shull to do, I think

705
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,959
Speaker 1: he's gonna be very good at it. I wouldn't worry

706
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: about that, And you know what, thank you John to

707
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: his point, I'm gonna ask you, point blank, sure, how

708
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: shocked would you be if Markley, Hernandez and b J.

709
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: Hill did not make significant contributions to this team? Immediately.

710
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: How shocked would you be? Well, I think all three

711
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: will be virtual starters. Okay, So that answers his question.

712
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: And and Lorenzo Carter will probably at least be some

713
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: type of rotational player. I agree with that too. So

714
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: that's four guys that you should get some contribution out

715
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: of in their rookie seasons, and three of them probably

716
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: huge contributions. That's exactly what this franchise needed if they

717
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: were going to make some moves as well. Let's see

718
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: it too, I mean we need to see it. I mean,

719
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: did you think they're gonna make huge contributions? Reasonable to

720
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: expel her? And this could play sixteen games and be

721
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: an average player. It's very true. You could be below

722
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: average as a rookie. Who knows, it's possible. It's all

723
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: very possible. Point is reasonable to expect. Yes, well, I

724
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: think all three will get significant and even the fourth

725
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: with Carter, will get significant playing time. And that would

726
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: be quite a jump over what's happened here over the

727
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: last several years, especially with the third round picks. They

728
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: have not gone well. Okay, and so I appreciate his

729
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: warning sign. I appreciate his trepidation, but I think what

730
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: we've seen indicates that that that may be a an

731
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: unrealized fear. I'm not as bullish on Ogletree as you like.

732
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: I think you're assuming he's gonna step in and be

733
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: the next Antonio Pierce right away. I'm not quite confident

734
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: he'll play at that level. I don't know that he

735
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: has to be Antonio Piers, but he has to be.

736
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: I think he will be a significant improvement over last year.

737
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: How good he's going to be, I don't know. That's

738
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: why I look at it. That's fair, that's fair. Let

739
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: me with all the respect, and I like him. He's

740
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: a good guy and a good player. But Calan Munson

741
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: was the starting middle unpacker last year. Understood, so understood.

742
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: I think there'll be a significant step up from that.

743
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: I mean, Antonio Pierce went to a Pro Bowl, and

744
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not going to come out and tell

745
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: you that ogle Tree is going to the Pro Bowl

746
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: this year. But what I'm telling you is and and

747
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: and that's where I am. I suspect he'll be in

748
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: the upper half of inside linebackers in this league. I'd

749
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: be very surprised if he's not. And that's enough. If

750
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: everybody else is playing like they're supposed to. That's enough

751
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: to make this a good defense to a one four

752
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: or five one three. Let's go up to Maine and

753
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: say what's up to Jason? Hey, Jason, Hey, fellas, how

754
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: you doing doing great? What's up good? Just a few

755
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: things for you. Um. First of all, I'm just wondering

756
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: if you guys can comment. We don't hear much or

757
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: I don't hear much about Roger Lewis, and I think

758
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: he's pretty important part of the team. I'm just wondering, UH,

759
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: if you guys can just share with us what you've

760
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: seen from him so far this year. He's been the

761
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: ex receiver with the second team. UM, he's basically been

762
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: in that spot for all the spring and all the summer.

763
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: I thought he played pretty well in the spring. He

764
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: caughts and passes down the field, showed off some speed. UM,

765
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: he hasn't made a ton of place with the second team.

766
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: I don't think in the summer. UM he's been there.

767
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: He has not anything wrong or poor. I just haven't

768
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: seen the ball go his way a little bit. And

769
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: its funny. I was gonna make this joke before to

770
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: Jason and I'll kind of expand this out a little bit.

771
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: I feel pad for Cody Laddimer on Hunter Sharp. They

772
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: don't get much thrown there. They never get the ball

773
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: throw their way about Shepherd or Beckham. They just and

774
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: this is and by the way, Laddimer on Sharp when

775
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: when O'Dell wasn't on the field in the spring, they

776
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: got lots of looks and they got the ball thrown

777
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: the way a lot. But I have not seen that

778
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: quite as much this summer. No, and and that's not

779
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: their fault. Considered that the ball is also going to Angram,

780
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: and it's also going to Barkley. I mean, how many

781
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: you know? It's actually the question? Let me ask you

782
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: this question, pauling and and Jason hang with us. Paul,

783
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: who do you think on that second group with Davis

784
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 1: Webb has gotten the most targets. I know they've calculated

785
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 1: it upstairs. But my guess, I don't even know my answering.

786
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 1: My guess. Wow, say, it's a good question. I don't

787
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: have an answer either. I might have to go ask

788
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: somebody that question during practice see if they can get

789
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: if they're if they're willing to give that to you,

790
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: you know, because I'll tell you something too. They haven't

791
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: been shy about throwing a little check downs the Goldman either.

792
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: They have not. And I've seen a decent amount go

793
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: to the tight ends with that second group too. Yeah.

794
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: I mean, and again, you understand with the front line

795
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: skill guys they have, they're going to get the bulk

796
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: of the throws. But to me, Roger Lewis has not

797
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 1: done any thing wrong to cost himself a spot right now.

798
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: But he also hasn't had really a chance to step

799
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: up and do anything spectacular here in the summer that says, Oh,

800
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the three or I'm gonna be the four,

801
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 1: and don't even think about taking that job away from me.

802
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: I think the preseason games are still gonna tell the

803
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: story huge for that where wide receivers three, four, and

804
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: five on this team, no question, I'm sorry, Jason, go ahead.

805
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 1: We kind of went on a tangent. Yeah, I hope

806
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: we answered you. How distaste Two other things. One, I

807
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: was curious about the color Rush uniforms. I'm actually a

808
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: big fan of that. I'm wondering, Uh. I noticed the

809
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: Giants playing on Thursday night, I think at home finally, Uh,

810
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: And I'm wondering, do you know if they're gonna have

811
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: different color Rush uniforms this year? You think they're gonna

812
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: stick with the white ones? Guess there. I think my

813
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: guess is that they were very popular last year. I

814
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: would guess they're gonna stick with the white ones. If

815
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: they didn't, I'd be surprised what game they're gonna wear,

816
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: matt Um, you know what the usually I'm on the

817
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: Thursday nights, right, So maybe they'll useing Thursday n at

818
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: home game against the Eagles. I wouldn't surprise me. I

819
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: have not heard anything. I don't know either. I'm just guessing.

820
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: I've the feedback on those white throwback jerseys I think

821
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: was pretty strong. Well yeah, and I think ownership liked

822
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 1: them a lot too. So it was the old Sims

823
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: cell t exactly my helmets by by prediction. And I

824
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: know nothing. I know no inside information. I haven't asked

825
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: anybody about this. My guests all white Philly Thursday night

826
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: in a was that October? Yeah? But see that would

827
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: be a home game. Would they do that or they

828
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: just or would they just go back to the old

829
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: Sims LT blues with the giants across the helmet? May

830
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: if they could do that they want at home against

831
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 1: Dallas last year, that's when they warm the whites. Yeah yeah,

832
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: well again that goes back to the parcels thing, superstition,

833
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: superstition where your whites at home against Dallas because you

834
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: want them to wear their blues. Bad luck in those

835
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: days at night in the white jerseys. It is pretty good.

836
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: It is pretty looks pretty cool. I I admit, I admit,

837
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm very anti color rushes. I can't stand.

838
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 1: But the eye it's white throwbacks. I'm good with that

839
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: because it's a throwback. It's not really colorush, it's really

840
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: throw And other teams do that to Pittsburgh does that.

841
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: Dallas does that with the jerseys with the stars on

842
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: their shoulders. So a lot of teams do do the always.

843
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: I don't like anything new. I just want to go

844
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: back to the future, you understand. I really like the

845
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: helmet is what I like. I like. Yeah, still on helmet.

846
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: But just one other thing. I'm wondering if if sometime

847
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: next week or whenever, you guys can do it. Uh.

848
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: I know people don't put a lot into maybe preseason games,

849
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: some people do. I put a lot into them. So

850
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: in in in uh. In the first one, I realized

851
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: probably not gonna have many starters. So I'm wondering if

852
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: there's a time a show that you guys will maybe

853
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: just give us a real good breakdown on what to

854
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: watch for in the second, third, and fourth quarter of

855
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 1: Game one. Yeah, tune in. Yeah, I always leave it there.

856
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: Thanks guy, appreciate the call. If you want to tune in,

857
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: we'll have the show next Wednesday and Thursday before the

858
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: game where he will do a lot of that here.

859
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: Tune into next Wednesday and Thursday shows. I think it's Uh.

860
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: I don't know is doing the Thursday show before the

861
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: game that they know. I'm not, but somebody is. I

862
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: think it's Lance and I could, I think. But here's

863
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: the thing. I'm gonna be perfectly frank with you. Until

864
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: Coach Shermer starts, you know, filtering me out some of

865
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: his plans, I'm very leary of telling you what to

866
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: expect because my experience is based on all pre Shermer

867
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: and I can't honestly tell you what you know, what

868
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: is he thinking? I don't know until until he starts

869
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: filtering stuff out. I really don't want to discuss that stuff.

870
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: I have some bad news for you, Rain. No, what

871
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: else is going on as we're doing the show? Oh no, Baltimore,

872
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Orioles actually winning this game? Well,

873
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: he tell me, but this way it's one forty six

874
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: and the Yankees just got the bat in the bottom

875
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: of the second Sonny Gray five runs for the Earls

876
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: in the top of the second. Day. My goodness, Ducky

877
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: labor towards us at a tour on home run. So

878
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: that'll make you be a little happier. But it's five

879
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: two Orioles bottom set, Yankee still up. Unbelievable, lance Lynn,

880
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: get the door loose. Hello, but get that half head

881
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: foot about disease figured out? Happy about that? No, No,

882
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: what did I just tell you this morning? Sonny's won

883
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: three games in a row. Cross your fingers that it's

884
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: all gonna Yeah, you know you're feeling good about it,

885
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: so you put the kibo. Actually, I actually said to you,

886
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm kind of thinking maybe it'll be okay. I guess not.

887
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: You gotta win this game. They left. They left them

888
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: in more runs for the Orioles to come two four, five,

889
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: one three. See we track everything here on giants dot Com.

890
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the phone's tea is in Maryland?

891
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: What's up to? How are you doing great? What's up?

892
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: What's going on? You are there the other day? I

893
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: guess they still have your hostage and and making you

894
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: take interviews and not take our glorious phone calls. I'm sorry,

895
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: he big time does it's okay? Yeah, check this out.

896
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: I got a question for you. And I talked about

897
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: this with John. Everybody's all doing in gloom and all

898
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: getting upset and everything. Look, man, this relaxed. Everybody taking

899
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: jail kill. Wait till preseason before we start analyzing and

900
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: over analyzing and going crazy. But I talked about Hernandez

901
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: Monday when I was with John, and I'll be there tomorrow.

902
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be there to day, but the

903
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 1: wife was often you already know what that means, and

904
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: she's you got other things to do besides tripball. Yes

905
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: you do. We all know how that goes. So stuff

906
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: looked at me. It was like, I guess you're not

907
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: going there? They are we I said, no, we're good

908
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: tomorrow and she's gonna work. But look, hey, I was

909
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: watching me um the videos and everything, and I was

910
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: listening to the interviews, and I don't know Paul and

911
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: Paul can remember this because Paul's a Paul's a season

912
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: vet A should say, because I'm in my forties, I'll

913
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 1: put it that way. In hold on, you don't have

914
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: to beat around the bush just calling an old guy.

915
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: It's okay, accepted, It's fine. It is what it is.

916
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,959
Speaker 1: You ever seen My dad told me when you call people,

917
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: oh that when you get old, and you're gonna regret that.

918
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: So I just say he she's okay. If you're forty

919
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: year old too, it's okay. I see you, man, I

920
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: just tower over you because I'm above six ft, little guy.

921
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: Hold on, I am six funt a half inch. I'm

922
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: not Lands who's five five and a half. Added that

923
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 1: half in there that the coils of a short guy,

924
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 1: don't I'm not a short. Where you get this from?

925
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: Let Lance is the guy who needs the fruit cart? Yeah? Okay, yeah,

926
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: I remember two years ago I stood beside Land and

927
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: I was like, man, this guy's little man. But anyway,

928
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: I was thinking, man um and this is just me

929
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: foreshadowing and just I guess you could say, remember in

930
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 1: the good old days when I look at her Nandez

931
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: and whether the Jones at p O and the new

932
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: guys of Mommy. You know who I think Paula, I

933
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: think of Arts Boats and Godfrey. Wow, that's uh, that's

934
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: setting the part pretty high, don't you think it is?

935
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 1: But you know what, it's just that because these guys

936
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: like Hernandez even in college, man, he was like it

937
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: was like putting a buyer snowplow on the truck and

938
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: just letting it go. And Po and O Mommy, I

939
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: mean they got rid of a mommy because of the

940
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: guy they got from Carolina. But O Mommy wasn't a

941
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: bad player, man, I've seen the field. No, No, he's

942
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: a solid player, a solid player. And I was really

943
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: impressed with Jones and PO last year. So I think

944
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: they're going, Like I told um John hard Monday, I'm expecting, uh,

945
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: Joe Morris type season out of Seaqua Barkley. So so

946
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: minimum thousand yards? Oh, minimum twelve hundred Okay, okay what

947
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: Morris ran for? What? Twenty touchdowns? Alright? Here's here's the

948
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 1: thing though, that here's the thing you have to remember

949
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: and and John and I have been discussed in this

950
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: for months. Okay, they've rebuilt that whole offensive line, and

951
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: the one thing that those guys had was chemistry. They

952
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 1: worked together so closely knit. They were like lego blocks.

953
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: The way that the way that they fit together. No

954
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: matter what the individual talents of um Hlapio or Jones

955
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: or or Mammy or Hernandez are, regardless of how good

956
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 1: they may be as players, if they don't mesh together

957
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: and quickly, this line is not going to be productive

958
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,479
Speaker 1: as the one you just said. I remember too, there's

959
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: there's there's so many talented players in this offense. I

960
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: just think the touches are really gonna get spread out.

961
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,919
Speaker 1: So I think a lot of the guys that people

962
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: assume are gonna have these monster statistical years might be

963
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: a little depressed, which is a good thing for the

964
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: offense overall, that might be bad for their fantasy. That

965
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: is also true. I wanta level, so you know, I

966
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: hear you know. I'm a realist. I always I'm always

967
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: gonna with the level of civility and realism versus fantasy.

968
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, it would be great to have it,

969
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: but I would love for it because if all these

970
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 1: guys are getting touches and and and if the line

971
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 1: even is half as good as um our oats and

972
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: and those guys, I will be I would take that

973
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: because that means they're moving the ball on the ground.

974
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 1: And if we could could move the ball on the ground,

975
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: we could do a lot through the year. I'm telling you,

976
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: so look, I'm gonna great going because I still got

977
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: a honeyde list to do it. And I will see

978
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: you guys tomorrow afternoon. All right, sounds good. We'll see tomorrow,

979
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: my man. Good thing. Everybody appreciate it. See people can

980
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: people do when they're not watching the video? Obviously they

981
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: confuse my voice with lances they think people A lot

982
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: of people think our voices are very similar. I don't

983
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: sense that I never did either, and by the way,

984
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: but they do. As you and I both know, the

985
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: honey do list usually has a lot of pits in it.

986
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 1: It does a lot of pitts. Are you trying to

987
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 1: be like turn of phrase? I'm just list has a

988
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: lot of pits and a lot of stuff that you

989
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: just don't want to get to. Oh that that's true,

990
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I think I thought you meant

991
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: the actual honeydew has like a pit in it because

992
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: it's a fruit, and that was the joke. You're it

993
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: does and it's it's it's the least the least desirable

994
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 1: part of the fruit, just like there are many undesirable

995
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: parts to the list that none of us want to

996
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: get to. That that that's why it's a to do

997
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 1: the list, not a want to do list. How true

998
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: is difference? Difference? Alright, a couple of things I want

999
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: to get you on Twitter, Paul, before you say goodbye

1000
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: here um h Carson fan at night moves in j

1001
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: This is his quote. I am optimistic about the season

1002
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: as a whole, but to expect a fast start against

1003
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: early competition is a real stretch. New staff, new offense,

1004
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: new defense, new old line, new linebackers, new unnamed third quarterback.

1005
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: It will take this season. It will take half the

1006
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 1: season to get into sync. One flip to that, nobody

1007
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: knows what to expect from these guys. Where's the film?

1008
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: That's true too, So that works both ways, and ultimately

1009
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: it will come down to the execution. My sense talking

1010
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: to you today, Paul is compared to the way we

1011
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: talked for god four months before we got going here.

1012
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 1: I feel like your optimism level has risen a lot. Well,

1013
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: there are two things that sense. There are two. I

1014
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: don't want say a lot, but there were reasons why

1015
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: it's been buoyed a little bit. A no significant injuries

1016
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: already into the second week of camp. Yes, we talked

1017
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: about that at the beginning of the show, and that

1018
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: in itself, Okay, that makes you feel good if you're

1019
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: if you're the organization. The second thing is, I am

1020
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: really really impressed at how good Odell Beckham Jr. Has

1021
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: looked here on the practice field. He has done everything

1022
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: they've asked him to do. I've been saying all along

1023
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: during the off season, Hey, you know what, let's see

1024
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 1: if he's still Odell Beckham Jr. Or is he somebody

1025
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: less than that? Well, I know they haven't gone against

1026
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: the opposition, and I really want to be able to

1027
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: see him go against an opponent as well. We've talked

1028
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: about that too, But the truth is right now, out

1029
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: there on this practice field, he has looked as good

1030
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 1: as anybody could possibly imagine, and I think that's that

1031
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: bodes well. So those two reasons have given me reason

1032
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: to booie my hope, my optimism, and made me feel

1033
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: maybe even a little better than I did two weeks

1034
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: ago at Rico Underscore Underscore the Lore. Uh. Can you

1035
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: describe the differences between mcaduke, Coughlin and Shermer's camps under

1036
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 1: the new CBM SO means physicality level and things like that,

1037
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: This is probably the most physical I've seen camp in

1038
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: a couple of years. Totally agree, and I actually think

1039
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 1: I don't want to disparage anybody. I do think there's

1040
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: more UM consistent focus. Uh. Hard for me to judge.

1041
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: It is hard. It is hard, but I think you

1042
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: see players when they're in there, let's say their positional

1043
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: trade attention, it looks like they're more focused. To me,

1044
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: I will say this, I really am impressed with the

1045
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: assistant coaches that part Patch Farmer brought along. I think

1046
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: I think I think it's a very good group, especially

1047
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: on defense. That staff the Shade towns end. I think

1048
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: they're doing a great job in the secondary UM. I

1049
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: think you know, Gary Manuel does a really good job

1050
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: in the D line, and Bill McGovern has always been

1051
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: a good linebackers. Like I think the assistant coaches, I

1052
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: think he's gotten a good group together. We know, for one,

1053
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot less music out on the field during

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Speaker 1: practice the only in the very beginning of practice the UK,

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Speaker 1: and that's obvious and and quite frankly, I know that

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Speaker 1: coach McAdoo wanted to reach the millennials and that was

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Speaker 1: part of his plan to do so. But I do

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00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: think that that made it more of a recreational feel

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Speaker 1: at practice as opposed to a workman like atmosphere at practice.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a fair thing to say. And if

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Speaker 1: you want to tell me that that's going to benefit

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Speaker 1: this team, I'll listen to you, because the proof will

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Speaker 1: be in the pudding once the season starts. A. J. Marshall.

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Speaker 1: Today is the last training camp practice at two forty five.

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Speaker 1: Why they decide to move at the ten thirty this

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Speaker 1: week and next Well, it's not the last practice at five.

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Speaker 1: It will go to the morning for a couple of

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Speaker 1: days in a row and then we'll return to fort

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Speaker 1: five I believe on Saturday, right, isn't Saturday's practice and

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Speaker 1: then it kind of rotates back and forth for the

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Speaker 1: rest of the camps. So make sure you look at

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Speaker 1: the schedule understand the reason. Giants dot Com by the way,

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Speaker 1: as the training camps, Yes, yes, there are other events

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Speaker 1: here on the Metal Lands property. Yeah, when they have

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Speaker 1: concerts at nights, they don't want to have people in

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Speaker 1: here for training camp practice late as people will be

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00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: coming in for concerts and that will mess, yes, a

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00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: mess for traffic. You don't want to deal with that.

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Speaker 1: So the Giants have tried to adjust things. And the

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Speaker 1: last open practice of the public I believe is uh

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Speaker 1: right before the Browns game next one. I think that

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Speaker 1: might be right. Changed the games the ninth, yeah, I believe.

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Speaker 1: I I do not believe you have any open practices

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Speaker 1: after the Browns game. I believe all the open practices

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Speaker 1: are before them if they have there By the way, practice,

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00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: training camp practice is open as of now. Again, it's

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Speaker 1: still a little bit of time before the seventh That's

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Speaker 1: that's what I thought. Perfect awesome. Um James Jones one

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Speaker 1: of the Giants gonna set the official depth chart, Well,

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Speaker 1: the Giants do not set an official depth chart until

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Speaker 1: they put out their players on the field for the

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Speaker 1: first regular season games. You will see an unofficial depth

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Speaker 1: chart hit giants dot com. Probably usually they do the

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Speaker 1: second week camp, so I think it maybe sometime this

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00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: weekend or Monday, you might see the unofficial depth chart

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Speaker 1: pop up. But again, I wouldn't take that too seriously.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times they might move guys around that

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00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: try to hide undrafted guys, to hide interest them, things

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Speaker 1: like that. Saying anything about that, I just know that

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Speaker 1: it's unofficial exactly, it's put out there for the purpose.

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Speaker 1: Let me put it that way. And then this. I

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Speaker 1: think this one's for you, Nana. I believe Blue ten.

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Speaker 1: I go in the first time I go into the

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Speaker 1: Giants chat forever, and to my surprise, I find out

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Speaker 1: we have a top five day. Okay, I'm taking a

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00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: law expletive blake from the chat top five? Who who

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Speaker 1: said top Oh you know what, Scott, Sky's the limit.

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Speaker 1: Let's see how it all turns out. I think that's

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00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: probably asking for a little bit much, quite frankly, as

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Speaker 1: we said before. But hey, you know what, the sky's

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Speaker 1: the limit here. All the more, let's watch this defense play. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Let me think anything else good. No, I don't really

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Speaker 1: see much else here, um except again, the Giants right

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Speaker 1: now are playing to practice outside, folks, So if you're

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Speaker 1: on your way or you're lining up, make sure you

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Speaker 1: stay or keep coming. The Giants will try to practice outside.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully that Ray will stay away for the next three

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Speaker 1: hours or selling, we'll get in and again practice. He's

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Speaker 1: at two forty five today before hitting the morning the

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Speaker 1: next couple of days. Giants Training Camp Live tonight MSG

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Speaker 1: Bob Popa, Carl Banks. We'll have a whole bunch of

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Speaker 1: features and info for you, and we'll talk about practice

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Speaker 1: tonight to right. I think coaches on tonight as well

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Speaker 1: at six pm MSG. Yes, good times, Paul. That's it

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Speaker 1: all right, we'll see tomorrow. Everybody. Have a great day.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us on Giants dot Com and Big

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Speaker 1: Blue Kickoff live and again for continue updates on camp coverage,

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Speaker 1: training camp schedule, and word on the weather today, stay

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Speaker 1: tuned the Giants dot Com and you'll have the latest

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Speaker 1: for you there. For Paul Ta Tino, I'm John Schmilk.

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Speaker 1: We'll see Imaniana. Audios. Go