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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Big Book kick Off live

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Speaker 1: right here on Giants dot Com. I am John Schmolked.

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Speaker 1: Demand to my left is Jeff Eagles. The phone numbers

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Speaker 1: half tag Giants chat on Twitter If you want to

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Speaker 1: get in touch with us that way you can. I

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Speaker 1: got a lot of notifications here on my Twitter, so

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking my plea for questions probably turned out well.

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Speaker 1: I'll track those over the course of the program. I

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Speaker 1: have not hosted with Jeff Eagles for it seems like,

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Speaker 1: I think before the draft, where you been on Fridays. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean the problem is that we've had a lot

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Speaker 1: of O, T A s and stuff, So I try

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Speaker 1: not to schedule myself on the days we have practiced

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Speaker 1: in case there's a issue with it. I actually try

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Speaker 1: to go out of my way to to toast with you.

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Speaker 1: But I'm tired of the Yeah, I'm tired of those guys.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to talk to them anymore. I gotta

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Speaker 1: deal with him a lunch and you know, Paul's crazy.

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Speaker 1: And we haven't played the game in a while. No,

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Speaker 1: and we will. We will play. Did you play with

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Speaker 1: Jeff Eagles later. We will take your tweets as well

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Speaker 1: at hashtag giants Chat. Make sure you send in your questions.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to them. But Jeff, ots have been happening.

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Speaker 1: I guess from a player's perspective, where do you want

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Speaker 1: to be at this point of the off season program?

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Speaker 1: You have a week of minicam left, then four more

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Speaker 1: O t A. So seven more unpadded practices. Mean you

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Speaker 1: folks that are wondering, there are no differences between mini

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Speaker 1: camp practices and O t A practices other than mini

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Speaker 1: camp is mandatory and t is not. But given that

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Speaker 1: everyone's been in attendance, which is really really nice, we

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Speaker 1: don't have to talk about that. By the way, um

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Speaker 1: it's the same. So there's basically seven practices left to go.

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Speaker 1: Where do you want to be if you're player at

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Speaker 1: this point in the off season? I think it's a

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Speaker 1: good question, But I also think it depends on what

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Speaker 1: type of player, like meaning the years in the league,

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Speaker 1: Like if you're a veteran or you're a rookie, well,

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Speaker 1: well let's go through it. Give me though, if you're

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Speaker 1: a rookie, I think where you want to be is

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Speaker 1: the field. I think that's the biggest thing. And then

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Speaker 1: of course playing football at your position the best you can.

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Speaker 1: But I think right now there's the evaluation processes there. Um.

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Speaker 1: The younger guys going into training camp have to understand

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Speaker 1: they're gonna get the playbook taken away from him after

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Speaker 1: five weeks they're gonna have get away and then come

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Speaker 1: back there and to relearn it on an accelerated basis.

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Speaker 1: They throw the whole playbook at you again when you

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Speaker 1: get here, but you better know most of it. So

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Speaker 1: a younger player, I'm in the playbook from a veteran guy.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to get my my conditioning up on, trying

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Speaker 1: to get if I'm new here some of the newer

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Speaker 1: free agents, I gotta understand the philosophy, the terminology of

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Speaker 1: You know, you can see it with rookies. Throws come

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Speaker 1: is a difficult transition of all the positions, John, That's

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Speaker 1: what I do and he's you know, he basically said,

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Speaker 1: to be able to ease into this a little bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they have the opportunity to do that. Sometimes you don't.

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Speaker 1: with well Sam Donald, Okay. So there's a classic example.

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Speaker 1: And that's that you're painting the picture. It's not going

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Speaker 1: how much is Eli teaching him? You know, where is that?

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Speaker 1: You hear Coach Shermer in the press what he's saying

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Speaker 1: good to see. Sam Bill had been with the Ones,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's great competition in the SEC. He's you

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Speaker 1: so that's gonna be the case. And listen, Sam Bill Uh,

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Speaker 1: be more specific than that. Their defense needs to finish games,

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Speaker 1: frankly gets to finishing games. When you're finishing games, what

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Speaker 1: our teams trying to do against pressure on the quarterback? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well they're trying to throw the comeback close games, right,

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Speaker 1: So as the Giants and defense, can they get pass pressure,

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Speaker 1: which is something we've talked about all offseason. Can Lorenzo

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Speaker 1: Can Marcus Golden recapture that double digit sack magic from

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Speaker 1: really good young quarterbacks. I like Baker, I like Love.

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Speaker 1: We'll see Beal. He's done so far pretty well in practice.

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Speaker 1: Generis Jenkins is back, but asking first year rookie cornerbacks

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Speaker 1: is much improved with you're Bill Peppers and Antoinethy. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Hi Harrison, Gooday, guys, how Hi Harrison. Good to hear

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Speaker 1: he but he set you up because you know, he's

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Speaker 1: really nice when you're when you're teeing off, and then

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Speaker 1: he that he kills you on the golf course. Jeff,

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Speaker 1: Jeff is a hell of a golfer. Now like he's

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Speaker 1: scratch guy, scratching plus one plus two not a plus whoa.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but you know being plus one is a

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Speaker 1: real insult. See, that's how good of a. See, that's

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Speaker 1: how competitive and negative to I mean, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of similarities to drop in the ball inside the tern

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Speaker 1: and and being able to hit a good wedge. He

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Speaker 1: knows both. Well, that was my point that you usually

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Speaker 1: shoot around a plus two was my point. Yeah, exactly, okay,

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Speaker 1: plus two hands because I was Kapper is the guy

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Speaker 1: that shoots under parts. That's okay. Well, I hope you

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Speaker 1: had a good time out there, Dave. It was a

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Speaker 1: great cause it was Shawn O'Hara's golf tournament. He gets

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Speaker 1: a lot of people out there for cystic fibrosis awareness.

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Speaker 1: Is a good time. We've got had you get all

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Speaker 1: the holes in we got We got everyone but one,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know we we we missed. We missed

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Speaker 1: one too. But when it was, it was awesome. And

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Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. Sean does a great job and and

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Speaker 1: you know current and former players, it's it's first classes.

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Speaker 1: It's it's really done very very well. So. But one

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Speaker 1: of the things, John, for your sake, when when I

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Speaker 1: had a chance to just catch up with Jeff we're

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Speaker 1: just talking about one is just the nature of this

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Speaker 1: program first of all, and just what a great place

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Speaker 1: it is for giant fans. But two, it's just a

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Speaker 1: place where you know, guys got a chance to really

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Speaker 1: talk football and and you know, it's interesting to me.

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Speaker 1: I just want to get your guys comments. You've already

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Speaker 1: hit on it, but it's interesting to me. Last year,

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Speaker 1: at this time, it was fascinating and it always makes

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Speaker 1: me nervous. There was actually a lot of analysts and

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Speaker 1: the talking heads that were actually pretty positive about the Giants.

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Speaker 1: It was interesting, you know, like, you know, not everybody,

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Speaker 1: but there was a handful a handful of folks and

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Speaker 1: and obviously, you know, the season didn't turn out that way.

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Speaker 1: But it's amazing to me that when I look at

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Speaker 1: this roster, even though you could say, hey, there's some

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Speaker 1: you know, big names that have obviously come off the

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Speaker 1: roster for different reasons. But but to me, I go

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Speaker 1: back to two units that I feel we're going to

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Speaker 1: hang our hat on this year. The offensive line. Um,

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Speaker 1: and I think you just really can't emphasize enough because

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Speaker 1: of how it impacts the whole offense. Obviously, right, we've

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Speaker 1: lived through the last number of years where we've seen

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Speaker 1: you know, great skill players and you know, other positions

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Speaker 1: where if your offensive line isn't isn't functioning at a

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Speaker 1: high level. It's all the rest of that stuff really

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. And the other one is that is the secondary,

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Speaker 1: and the stats in the league right now are talking

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Speaker 1: about the fact that a good coverage secondary is more

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Speaker 1: impactful to a defense and even a high pass rush,

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Speaker 1: which which seems counterintuitive now they're connected. I get that,

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Speaker 1: but but I look at those two units and think

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Speaker 1: that if I'm going into this year for the Giants,

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Speaker 1: those are the two units I'm hanging my hat on

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Speaker 1: um in terms of they have to perform well and

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Speaker 1: if they do, I think they have an overall impact

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Speaker 1: to the rest of the team. I appreciate it real

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Speaker 1: quick on the impact of the analytics, and that's a

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Speaker 1: lot of big thing that Pro Football Focus has done

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Speaker 1: that they show that higher grades in the secondary correlate

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Speaker 1: more towards winning than higher grades on the defensive line. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'll say two things about it. One, the grade for

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Speaker 1: the secondary happens at the end of the play. So obviously,

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Speaker 1: if a quarterback that's a good grade, that means the

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Speaker 1: play is not going to be successful. So I think

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Speaker 1: that's part of it. And the other part of the

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Speaker 1: correlation that profobol Focus can't put into their formula. They

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Speaker 1: don't know and cannot calculate how opposing teams change their

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Speaker 1: game plan before the game even starts because of a

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Speaker 1: good pass rush, because you know that will happen if

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Speaker 1: you go into a game, you face it a big

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Speaker 1: pass rush. Al Right, we'll not do any five steps,

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Speaker 1: we can't do any double moves because he has to

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Speaker 1: hold the ball too long, and I think that has

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Speaker 1: an impact too. So yes, a lot of the analytics

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Speaker 1: do show that coverage is more important. I will never

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Speaker 1: downplay the important no coverage. Am I a hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: percent positive that the coverage portion is more important? I'm

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Speaker 1: notial that pass watch is more important. I'm not. I

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Speaker 1: think they're very very even. Well, let me ask you this,

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Speaker 1: if you had a which one would you rather have

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Speaker 1: a stronger unit? Would you rather be that the defensive

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Speaker 1: backs or you would you rather have it through defensive line.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you said, I listen, I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 1: you right now, our defensive line is so much better

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Speaker 1: than our secondary. Are you okay with that? Because they're

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Speaker 1: gonna get pressured, which means they will relieve you leave

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Speaker 1: it a little pressure on the backside. If I had

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Speaker 1: to choose, that's a tough question. I think I would

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Speaker 1: choose the better because you can scheme around a good

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Speaker 1: defensive line. I mean, look, is that one of the

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Speaker 1: best pass rushers in the league. Right What are the

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Speaker 1: Patriots do it against them? In the Super Bowl two

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Speaker 1: years ago? They threw four billion yards? Do you have

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Speaker 1: a great secondary? You guys are gonna cover regardless right fall.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's why the analytics say that maybe

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Speaker 1: coverage is more important because you can't if you guys

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Speaker 1: aren't open, what are the pass rushers there or not,

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Speaker 1: You're still not gonna You're still not going to complete

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Speaker 1: a pass, right I believe. I believe that I would

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Speaker 1: go with the secondary, and this reason only because the

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Speaker 1: way the game is built today is, yes, you can

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Speaker 1: scheme around a good pass rush, but you cannot scheme

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Speaker 1: around you know you you're gonna be able to get

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Speaker 1: guys open and complete passes if you don't have a

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Speaker 1: pastor so I'm going to the secondary. I think if

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Speaker 1: you have a good secondary and a decent pass rush,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be okay. Now, one thing about the pass

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Speaker 1: rushes those is you know they got to be able

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Speaker 1: to stop the run to that whole defensive line. Um,

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Speaker 1: if you can't stop the run, and which is another

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Speaker 1: thing the Giants couldn't do last year, that they're gonna

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Speaker 1: need a little bit of help so doing they keep

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Speaker 1: going down the defensive side. But to me, I think

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Speaker 1: you make a good point with the offense. You want

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Speaker 1: to hang your hat on those those are fine. Um,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna You're gonna need some good play out of

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Speaker 1: both of those groups. And I don't say this too.

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Speaker 1: I think the reason a lot of talking heads are

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Speaker 1: down on the Giants this year. When people evaluate football teams,

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Speaker 1: they look at skill position guys. And I've heard more

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Speaker 1: than people say, oh the Giants they lost, still tell

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Speaker 1: they don't have any skill position guys left. What they

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Speaker 1: bringing back sa Kwon Barkley, they're bringing back Stolen Shepherd,

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Speaker 1: They're bringing back Evan Ingram. They signed Golden Tate or

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Speaker 1: his numbers as goodna Odell No, but he's a legitimately

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Speaker 1: very good wide receiver in the league. Their weapons are fine.

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Speaker 1: They're fine if they protect those score points two four, five,

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Speaker 1: one three. Back to the phone calls. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: New Mexico. Who's up next? What's up? Scotty Gotti? Hey guys,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing today? I'm on Jeff's side. I

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Speaker 1: think the secondary is much more critical to the team

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Speaker 1: defense than the defensive line. I'll cite an example because

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Speaker 1: that's my my question, but both Kansas City and Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: tied to the league lead in sacks with fifty two,

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Speaker 1: yet Kansas City was ranked thirty one overall in team

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Speaker 1: defense and Pittsburgh obviously didn't even make the playoffs. So

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Speaker 1: I think the secondary is a critical key. And my

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Speaker 1: question is actually related to that because as you were

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Speaker 1: looking at the personnel in the secondary, I have a question.

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot of great cover corners Stephen Goilmore

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Speaker 1: last year, but the Richard Sherman. Of course del Vas

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Speaker 1: I was wondering, is anyone emerging from what you can

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Speaker 1: see that you could actually say is a shutdown corner?

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Speaker 1: If such a thing as possible anymore in the NFL today.

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Speaker 1: But because that think that's key, because what Stephen Gilmour

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Speaker 1: did last year I think was critical to New England

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Speaker 1: actually winning the Super Bowl. So I was curious if

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Speaker 1: you've seen anyone in I know it early obviously, but

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Speaker 1: is there anyone sort of emerging in that capacity that

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Speaker 1: you could say, hey, this guy could be a shutdown

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Speaker 1: corner on this roster, on this roster, Yes, I mean

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Speaker 1: I think it's way too early, Okay, I was just curious. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I I think if you go back

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Speaker 1: and look at the body of work that DeAndre Baker

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Speaker 1: has had, I mean, he has some pretty impressive statistics

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Speaker 1: in the Southeast Conference. But do you give up one

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Speaker 1: touchdown two years? Yeah? I mean, so again, I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying that he can be I'm just trying to maybe

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Speaker 1: shed a little bit of light on it. If there

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Speaker 1: was one guy of the young group that I think

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Speaker 1: has the most potential to do, it would be him.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not willing to go there yet. No me either,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not going there. I'm just giving you a

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Speaker 1: player that if we had to say, give me one guy,

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Speaker 1: that would probably be my guy. But you know what,

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Speaker 1: maybe he does and maybe some other guy comes out

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Speaker 1: and maybe it's love and I don't know who knows. Okay,

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Speaker 1: my other question, and again I can take this off

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Speaker 1: the air, but the question I had is on the

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Speaker 1: offensive line as well. Uh, they're supposed to be obviously

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Speaker 1: better players on the offensive line that there than there

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Speaker 1: was last year. That being said, though, it takes a

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Speaker 1: while for an offensive line to jel. I think David

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Speaker 1: Deal made a comment that it didn't really become a

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Speaker 1: finite group until Karim mackenzie joined the joined the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: So now they have Zeisler and they have the positions

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Speaker 1: pretty much earmark for who's going to do what if

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Speaker 1: Ramers can hold his way and does it not back issues?

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Speaker 1: How do you think it's going to take for an

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Speaker 1: offensive line like the Giants because there are they are

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Speaker 1: new personnel. Now do you give them like through the

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Speaker 1: preseason or does it take a couple of games actually

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Speaker 1: into this season before they can actually become a serious unit.

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Speaker 1: And that was my question, And thanks guys, I appreciated thanks.

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Speaker 1: That is always um that's a good question. Now they

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Speaker 1: bring back three of the guys, whether it's Talapio or Polly,

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Speaker 1: they'll be with Hernandez and Soldiers. They're gonna be fine.

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Speaker 1: And it's good that the two additions or two veterans

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Speaker 1: and Rammers and Zeitler that have been around for a while.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think it's gonna take a ton of time,

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Speaker 1: assuming everybody stays healthy through the preseason. Jeff, I don't

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Speaker 1: see why they shouldn't be hitting the ground with their

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Speaker 1: feet running a week one. Agree. And for what I

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Speaker 1: said earlier, this this is a this is a trending,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a veteran offensive line. So these guys

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Speaker 1: are used to being plug and play. You know, some

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Speaker 1: guys that come in, they get hurt another guy's next

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Speaker 1: to them. So, UM, I think it'll be a quicker

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Speaker 1: learning curve for this group than if you had guys

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Speaker 1: in the past that are young and haven't played next

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Speaker 1: to veterans their whole career. That makes sense. Two O

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Speaker 1: one N four five on three. Let's go to James

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Speaker 1: in Virginia up next. Then we'll take a couple of

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Speaker 1: your tweets before we get back to the phone. James,

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Speaker 1: what's up? Not much. Appreciate you guys, John and uh

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Speaker 1: there beat you. Thank you. I'm sorry about that, um,

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Speaker 1: but appreciate what all y'all do. Um, just a quick

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Speaker 1: question about the line. I think we got a strong

639
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Speaker 1: line now and maybe we can get another tight end

640
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Speaker 1: at the end. Um. But you definitely take care of

641
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: Eli in the backup quarterback whoever that is. Uh, and

642
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: the young secondaries. I think they're gonna be all right,

643
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: but they have to get in the game to see.

644
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: But um, but as I said, we should be alright.

645
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: ELI should have a strong year, you know. I hopefully

646
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Speaker 1: it don't be his last. But whatever they do, you know,

647
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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna put some winning games on the field,

648
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Speaker 1: which everybody is. I know they're gonna be really strong. Um.

649
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Speaker 1: And the last thing, Um, if we get a chance,

650
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Speaker 1: I'd like to have all of y'all take a picture

651
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Speaker 1: all of the the guys there with all of the

652
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: main call is we'll take one group picture after the season. Uh.

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Speaker 1: That's just something that's say you know, well, you're welcome,

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Speaker 1: You're welcome, appreciated, James, good stuff, and and thank you

655
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Speaker 1: for your service. By the way, I feel like, you know,

656
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: we talked about the Giants and everybody's those six games

657
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Speaker 1: and this and that. I think a lot of people

658
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: are are where the Giants are. Is there there's there's

659
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: kind of a wait and see attitude with the Giants

660
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: this year. I think a lot of people aren't going

661
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: to be surprised if the Giants do better they won't

662
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: be surprised, but I don't think people around the team

663
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: will be. I think there are people out there in

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Speaker 1: the national media that would be because they really think

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00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: that losing Odell is going to and there's such a

666
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: bad you know, voodoo around Gentleman right now, which has

667
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: been very much media driven that I think people have

668
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: a very negative attitude towards the cheam that don't follow

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Speaker 1: it very closely. Well, listen, if there's ever a time,

670
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Speaker 1: you know, there's most of the Giants teams, they operate

671
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: better when they're underdogs anyways, So let's make them the underdogs.

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Speaker 1: That would be good. I wanna take some tweets. Jeff

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Speaker 1: tweet tweet, it's time for tweets. What's Giants check? All right,

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Speaker 1: here we go. Let's start with this, and I got

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Speaker 1: some tweets in there for you. It's the tweetweet. There

676
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: was some tweets in the I know, but you intured

677
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: it perfectly. All right, here we go. Mr m One

678
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Speaker 1: s very excited about the season. I sense a quiet

679
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: optimism from the team that many seem unwilling to share.

680
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: Do you sense that the team is already feeling good

681
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: about locker room attitudes in a productive year. Well, again,

682
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk about what's happening on the

683
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Speaker 1: field yet it is sweets. You're only to make any

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Speaker 1: judgments and O T A. S. However, the caliber of

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Speaker 1: the person and the group of people, and the energy

686
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: of practice and the attitude and just the general demeanor

687
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Speaker 1: is as good as I've ever seen it since I've

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Speaker 1: been here. It makes a huge difference. And you know,

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Speaker 1: for somebody that's out there every day like John and

690
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: watching these things, you can see it from afar like that.

691
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: If you pick up on it, that means it's working.

692
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: And again, as a player, why is that important? Because listen,

693
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: it's a common goal. It's everybody is on the same

694
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Speaker 1: page for the team. And I know that that's kind

695
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: of a cliche. It's the team, it's the team, but

696
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: it makes so much sense, and it's so important that

697
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: everybody is all about the team and not the eye there.

698
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: You gotta get it out of there, And at this

699
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: early juncture, it's camaraderie, is getting guys to believe in

700
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: one another and preparing to what they're about to do

701
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: and go into this season. You know, as an underdog,

702
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: that's when everybody's got to get together and play and

703
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: be one with each other and then go forward. That

704
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: makes and you're not gonna do it if you're not.

705
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: If you've got a bunch of guys that are all

706
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: these little clicks everywhere, and that's why it's important. So

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Speaker 1: you tweets, by the way into hashtag Giants chat this

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Speaker 1: one from at getting seven as of right now, who's

709
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: the starting defense for the Giants? Will get to that

710
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: last from what you've seen, has Ingram Maine improvements as

711
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: a blocker? Well, you can't have contact and O t A,

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00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: so we can so that part of it. How much

713
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: is our offensive line now versus second half line of

714
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: the season last year? How much is it better now?

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Speaker 1: Thanks for your time. Well, again, you can't really block,

716
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Speaker 1: so you can't really tell in practice how good the

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Speaker 1: old line is. But Zeitler to me might be the

718
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: biggest upgrade and the whole roster this year. As much

719
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: of people love Jamal Brown last year, he's no Kevin Zeisler,

720
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: and Remors is going to be an upgrade once he

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00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: gets healthy over Wheeler if he wins that spot, and

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00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: I expect him to. So I think the offensive line

723
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: is going to be significantly better on that right side.

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00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: Well said, I think the same thing starting defense. In

725
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 1: terms of what we're seeing so far. R j McIntosh

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Speaker 1: ha spent time with the ones. I would guess, and

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00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: again we'll say this is only the spring. By the

728
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: time we get to the regular season, you're gonna have Tomlinson,

729
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: Hill and Um Lawrence as your three down defensive lineman.

730
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Speaker 1: I bet your two outside pass rushers will be Marcus

731
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Speaker 1: Golden and Lorenzo Carter. You have then Zimmonez and Cream

732
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: marnb your next two guys in rotation. Your inside linebackers

733
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Speaker 1: will be Ogletree and then Goodson and Bass Tay Davis

734
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Speaker 1: and nickel. Grant Halley or Julian Love will be your

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00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: nickel corners. I think you're two starting outside guys. Jeff

736
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Speaker 1: will be probably Jenkins and bay Er, and then Bethet

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Speaker 1: and pepper Is as safety. That sounds right. I agree.

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00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: The the corner position is going to be a competition thing.

739
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: Whoever does better there. It could be Beal or it

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00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: could be DeAndre Baker. Okay, they're both young guys. They

741
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 1: both haven't played a game in the NFL yet. Um,

742
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Speaker 1: I can see at the outside linebacker positions. I see,

743
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: I I agree with you on the starters there. Um.

744
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: You know, there could be a time where Kareem Martin

745
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: goes in for Lorenzo Carter because he's not playing well

746
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: or this or that. But I agree with you on that,

747
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: on that whole thing one at NYG Tim, if you

748
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Speaker 1: could take one player from every other NFC East team,

749
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Speaker 1: which player would you choose? One player from each other

750
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Speaker 1: NFC East team? If I was like pick a member

751
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: of the Eagles, I take Fletcher Cox. Wow, Yeah, you

752
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: can't go wrong there. Um could be in the mix

753
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Speaker 1: there maybe now you know what I'm gonna go, Brandon

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Speaker 1: Graham take I would take a healthy um. But a

755
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: tackle what's his name? Oh, Jason Peters or Lene Johnson?

756
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 1: Either one of those guys. You can look wrong there?

757
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: Their centers awesome too? Whose name the guy with all

758
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: the hair? He has a brother in the league to

759
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: a smaller guy. Yeah, thank you. Jason Kelsey? So what

760
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: about Jason Kelsey would be a really good name to boys.

761
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: You're going offense or defense? Boy, you could pick one

762
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: of the offensive lineman and you couldn't go wrong with it.

763
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: Frederick Martin or Tyrant Smith. Take your pick. I'm taking

764
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: the inside linebacker. I was gonna say, do you want

765
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: to you want the Vander Usher, Jalen Smith, Vander how

766
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: whatever his name, Vander vander Houser. How about the Marcus Lawrence.

767
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: I would say, you know what I would take to

768
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence is the Johnson to pass rusher. All right,

769
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: all right, so let's go to um. But Van vander

770
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: USh is a good one that also fills in need.

771
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: But I will would go to Marcus Lawrence Washington. The

772
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: Redskins question Ryan Kerrigan, A lot of Giants would be

773
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: giving back Landing College. Ryan Kerrigan would be in the

774
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: mix there. Landon Collins would be in the mix there.

775
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: But see, now Karrigan would be on our team, so

776
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be as disruptive as he is when he's

777
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: with Fred's kids because he has a Giants killer, just

778
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: like Jason Witten is a Giants killer. I'm from the

779
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Trent and Williams. That he's healthy is pretty

780
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: damn good. Brandon Sheriff another good offensive lineman. He's a

781
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: down good player. Yeah, that's a good question. I mean,

782
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: it takes a little little thought, but Josh Norman. I

783
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: don't want that. I just don't want that. I don't

784
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: want that. They just got rid of that, if you

785
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I just don't want that. I

786
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: really don't, all right. I took a bunch of bunch

787
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: of questions, and folks will have all these racked up

788
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: as we move forward, and we could ask them on

789
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: next week's show as well. I don't want to go

790
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: through all of them. I want to make sure we

791
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: have time to get to all their callers and do

792
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: our game with Jeff. Let's go back to the phone

793
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 1: and say what's up to our buddy, letting clumb the

794
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: Marl and how are you then? Hey, good guys, how

795
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: are you doing good? Hey? Jeff? To to your point

796
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: about the defense finishing finishing games, and I was running

797
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: back through my memory bank on land remember where they

798
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: really finished at the end critical play in the Bears

799
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: game where Jenkins jumped up in the air and knocked

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00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: the pass out of out of the way from Cohen

801
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: who was sitting there almost almost wide open at the

802
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: end of that Bears game. And I think that that

803
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: turned out to be the last player thing. I think

804
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: it was a fourth down play. I think it was.

805
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: I think it was the last play the game. But

806
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: that's the only one I can remember from from last year,

807
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: and that's that's I think he got a really good

808
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: point there. Um, I want to talk about the quarterback situation. Um,

809
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: I guess we're looking for a successor there's there's a

810
00:38:54,520 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: there's an understatement. Hu Um, how do you know? How

811
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Speaker 1: do you know when you got the right guy? See

812
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: him playing the well, no, no, no, Len Len Len.

813
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: In all seriousness, you gotta see him playing games and

814
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: then no, I know, yeah, you see how he plays

815
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: in the preseason, and then I think when he gets

816
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 1: reps at practice during the week. I mean, I've heard

817
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: stories of when Patrick Mahomes was running scout team, he

818
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: was murdering the Chiefs defense. And you see it. If

819
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: he gets a chance to run scout team and practice

820
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: and he's murdering your defense, guess what, there's a good

821
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: chance he's ready. And that same thing when Tony Romos

822
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: in Dallas, they said when he was running scout team

823
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: down there, he was killing everybody. So I think that's

824
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: a big part of it. And then when you see

825
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 1: him in the preseason games, and I think you also

826
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: get a feeling for the guy in the meetings, Mike,

827
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 1: she was going to be in all those quarterback meetings

828
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: and he's gonna report fact to coach Charmer. All Right,

829
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: this kid don't cut sharp. He's on top of everything.

830
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: He knows what we're doing, he knows everything. He's smart,

831
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: he's ready to go mentally. And I think you put

832
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: all that together and then that's how you figure it out. Yeah,

833
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: how about playing him? Well, yeah, they will in the

834
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: preseason and they will in the regular season if the

835
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: team is going you nowhere. See, I think I think

836
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: we got a little bit of a dilemma. Um, I

837
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: think you got to play the guy. Well, well, Len, Len,

838
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: here's the thing. They drafted him. The only way you

839
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: really find out is for him, and we got to

840
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 1: do it quickly or you gotta go get another quarterback.

841
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: They drafted him six the kids getting three years, so

842
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 1: you don't have to find out fast. The kids getting

843
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 1: three years. I'm just telling you, Well, but you could

844
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Speaker 1: look at that point another way. John, he was the sixth.

845
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: We got to find out if this guy can play. Yeah,

846
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 1: and they will, but they don't have to do it now. Well,

847
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: I just I keep thinking and I don't want to

848
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: see Eli replace that's that's that's my bias. But it's

849
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: gonna come. I mean, there's no question about it. The

850
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: question is how do you know Jones is the guy?

851
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: And I don't think we can wait forever. I mean,

852
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: this run of bad play has gone on too long.

853
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: But no, no, But here's the thing. The little he's

854
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: gonna play this year if the team's playing well, is

855
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: not going to tell you anything anyway. So regardless of that,

856
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: he's going if the team doesn't do well this year

857
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: and they're losing, like what your fear is, right, Daniel

858
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: Jones is going to be the start of Week one

859
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: next year. He just will be. And if he's good, great.

860
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: If he stinks, then he's gonna stink, and then you

861
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: move on from there. Whether you find out next year

862
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: or this year doesn't really make that much of a difference,

863
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: you know. I think, well, I just let me go

864
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: back to something and then I want to move on

865
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: to the offensive line real quickly if I can. Um,

866
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: I think you got to see the guy on the field,

867
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: and you gotta see I mean preseason. Yeah, we can

868
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: talk about preseason, but we're not going to know if

869
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: this guy is the guy to replace Eli and take

870
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: us to the Promised Land unless we see him on

871
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: the field, right, you know, the Len, Len Lenn, let go,

872
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: but let me go through it again. The let's stop, no, stay,

873
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: put it back up. It's fun. Put him back up, Lenn.

874
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 1: Here's the thing you don't have to find out quickly

875
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 1: because regardless of whether Daniel Jones plays this year, he's

876
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: going to get next year. So whether he plays this

877
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 1: year doesn't matter because even if he plays this year

878
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: and he stinks, guess what, they're not going to give

879
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: up on their sixth overall pick in the draft in

880
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: one season. So Elis contracts up after the year, Jones

881
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: will get an opportunity next year if like you're saying,

882
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: happens and the losing happens and continue. So if you're

883
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 1: gonna find out next year regardless, there's no rush. There's

884
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: also not a rush if if he's in there for

885
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: four games, you're not gonna You're not gonna base your

886
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: whole theory on four games. You're gonna know that you

887
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: know the year's he's your guy. And I think the

888
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: only way you're seeing Daniel Jones is if the team

889
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: is gonna go south. You're gonna see him sooner than later,

890
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: and then you're going to see him for a long time.

891
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: And you know what, he also doesn't see him and

892
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 1: maybe maybe if there's blowouts, to see him in fourth quarters. Yeah, okay, good,

893
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: I you know, appreciate your what do your point? Let

894
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: me let me get a quick one on the offensive one. Um,

895
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: if if Wheeler loses that job at right tackle, does

896
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: does does he stay on this team? I think he

897
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: would probably be your swing tackle? Yeah? I mean would

898
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: they hunt and you know, at cut time for someone

899
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: they think might be better. Sure, but I think if

900
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: he loses the battle, he'd be the swing guy. Remember

901
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: he was a left tackle coming out of college. He

902
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: can't play the left side too well. But he lost

903
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: the job on the left side, and he would have

904
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: lost the job on the right side. If my scenario

905
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: plays out. When you want somebody like that on your team, well,

906
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 1: I listen because all the time out because every backup

907
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: loses a job. Every backup on your team loses a

908
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 1: job because if they won the job, they'd be starting. Yeah,

909
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: but I think I know where you're going with this. Land.

910
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: I feel like this team always searches for the best player.

911
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: If he's the best player, he'll be here. But like

912
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: John said, if somebody's else is out there to waiver

913
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: Wire and he's better than Wheeler, then Wheeler will not

914
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: be Okay, okay, that's just just just to come up.

915
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: We'll see how this, how this turns out. I think

916
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 1: the backup I think the sixth and seventh players along

917
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: the offensive line, the guys who will dress on Sunday eight,

918
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: eight and nine, if they go that far. I'm not

919
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm not really talking about those guys here. I'm talking

920
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: about six and seven. I don't think they're on the

921
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 1: roster yet. I think number six will be whoever loses

922
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: between how Lapel and Polly. So I think that's six.

923
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: The question is who's seven and eight? Yeah, seven and

924
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: eight will not be here. Okay, thank you, thank you,

925
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah. I mean your six guys got to

926
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: be a guy that's borderline starter, correct and well, and

927
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: I think that's what Polly is right. Absolutely started a

928
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: lot of games. Yes, but a swing tackle is more

929
00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: important just because of the positional value. Yes, because absolutely, Yeah.

930
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: I until he may not be here, but you know

931
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: he Glenn makes a good point about that that position.

932
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: If he's lost at both sides, why would you want

933
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: him on the team. But if he's the only the

934
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: best scenario, So we'll see a long ways ago for that. Am.

935
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: I absolutely convinced that on this roster and this I

936
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: think this is Len's major point and I'll agree with

937
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: them on it. Am. I utterly convinced that the team's

938
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 1: swing guard and swing tackle are currently on the roster.

939
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: I'm not is that fair? Absolutely at this time, at

940
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: this juncture. You don't know. Now the middle of the

941
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: middle of training camp will have a better idea because

942
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna be able to see these guys play playing

943
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: live literally like kit people and run block and pass

944
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: block and real football, real football. Feeling about this, Hellelujah

945
00:45:50,960 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: losing his mind the elements. I am happy. Hello, Charlie,

946
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: how are you? Did you might want to punch? Charlie?

947
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: Inform me so we can actually hear him. David, here

948
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: we go here you hey, just just to go to

949
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: Lenn's point, Um, that's why we need to bring in

950
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis to see what he has and make him

951
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: our swing tackle or if he beats outs whatever his

952
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 1: name is, and then like Wheeler will be on the team.

953
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: I don't think Wheeler will be on the team. He's

954
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: the fourth wheel. He was going to be out right,

955
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 1: you know. And Washington, you said to pick up player

956
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: from what you I'm surprised you didn't say you've won

957
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: Eric Flowers back stop it. Did you ever want to

958
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: call it out again? Oh my god. When you guys

959
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: were talking about, like, you know what would be better

960
00:46:55,640 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: the front set, the front line or the secondary. You

961
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: gotta go with the with the pass rush. That's how

962
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: we won two Super Bowls. We had talk, we had

963
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: straight hand, we had oh C. We had all that

964
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: firepower that totally destroyed Brady. If if we didn't have that,

965
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: I don't care if you had prime time back there,

966
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: Brady would have totally cut us up. So you have

967
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: to have the front line giving a great pass. Right.

968
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: Let me ask you something that one questions. I was

969
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 1: kind of thinking about this after we had the conversation

970
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: because I go back and forth on it. To be

971
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: honest with you, if I gave you the opportunity, I'm

972
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: gonna give you either one of these two pairs of

973
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: players to be on your to be on your team.

974
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: You can either have Khalil Mack and Von Miller, okay,

975
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: or you can have I'm trying to think of the

976
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: next best corner Jalen Ramsey And who's your next best

977
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: corner in the league, Jeff or top corner in the league.

978
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: What do you like? M give me a name? Damnit?

979
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, all right? Or let's say like Jalen

980
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: Ramsey and um, thank you, Patrick Peterson? Here we go?

981
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: Which which peo mac? I don't know Ramsey and Patrick Peterson?

982
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: How how are you getting open against those guys? I

983
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: feel like if you get five seconds that you get

984
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: open on anybody. Yeah, but that doesn't mean you have

985
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: no one rushing the pass or it just means that

986
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: you don't have the top guys rushing the pass or no.

987
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: It just means that, you know, like when someone stands

988
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: back there and they have all day, I don't care

989
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: who the cornerback is. They're not going to stay with

990
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: a dude if he's a good if he's any type

991
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: of wide receiver. I don't know if that's true, but

992
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: I hear you. I feel like there are the point

993
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: can be argued forever because I think that you're you're

994
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 1: let's just put this way. I don't think you're wrong

995
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: either way. As long as the people like like John said,

996
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: if you have two really good shutdown corners back there,

997
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: I think it's you know, I will say this, If

998
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: you want to succeed, Jeff, you need one or the other.

999
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: You better either have a really good secondary or you

1000
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 1: better have a good pass wash. You can survive with

1001
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: either one of those. But if you don't have either,

1002
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: then you've got a lot of problems. What the giants

1003
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: had to last ye. Let me put it to you

1004
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 1: this way. Okay. I don't have a hard time believing

1005
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: what you're saying, so you don't have to say it

1006
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 1: that way. That's okay, go ahead. I can't understand. Would

1007
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: you rather have a great gunner or would you rather

1008
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: have that guy who's up front blocking for you. I'd

1009
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: rather have a good guy that snap it to me,

1010
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: all right, No, I'm you know, I'm kidding. I would

1011
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: have I would take a gunner in a day, in

1012
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: a second over somebody who's going to be your protector. Yes,

1013
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: you got to get blocked, punt, I can get kick

1014
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: away from them. No, I want a guy that's gonna

1015
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: cover for me. It's gonna go down and make play.

1016
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: That's a good question. But you know what if I

1017
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: get the ball off at one point nine seconds, the guy,

1018
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: I don't care, he's going to have a hard time

1019
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: block in it. Anyways, puts get blocked when guys are

1020
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: just whiffed. And if that guy wish more than one time,

1021
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be on my team. Anyways. They're gonna him.

1022
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: Then that's the most important is somebody who's there. Yeah,

1023
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: but you don't need a great person to protect you,

1024
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: just a competent person to protect you. Just gotta get

1025
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: get the shoulder on the guy to stop him for

1026
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: a quick The argument is, how have the Patriots done things?

1027
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: You know, they've spent money on the secondary, but they

1028
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: haven't spent money on pass rush. And and it's worked

1029
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: for them the last couple of years. Yeah, it's worked

1030
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: for them because they got Brady scorn thirty five points

1031
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: every year. That's fair. Thank you, Charlie Man. Always get

1032
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: to hear from you. It's a it's a very difficult

1033
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: conversation because I don't think you can be right or wrong.

1034
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: Excuse me either way. I think you make a good argument.

1035
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: This way, you make a good argument that way, and

1036
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 1: we will do at some point our long hour long

1037
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: um conversation on analytics with profitable focus again like we

1038
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: did last year, which is fun, which was very very

1039
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: cool program. So we'll make sure we tell everybody before

1040
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 1: that yes comes on. We'll make it happen. Joe in

1041
00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania will wrap us up on the phones today. Hello Joe, Joey, guys.

1042
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: Uh here great here is uh? I know you were

1043
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: talking about the lem was talking about the quarterback earlier

1044
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: and do we have to see him? The only thing

1045
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: I would say about that is, uh, like the Rams

1046
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: quarterback evert there is first year he really didn't look

1047
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: good and second here he came around. Yeah or yeah,

1048
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 1: I mean him And uh, if if we wouldn't have

1049
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: such a good record and we could come up because

1050
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: next year there's some quarterbacks available again, that would be

1051
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: something I would you know, you'd want to know about,

1052
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, if you would have a

1053
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: chance again, you know at another quarterback you would like

1054
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: so you'd like to have some kind of idea. I guess. Uh.

1055
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 1: But what I want to talk about is the offense.

1056
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Speaker 1: A lot you were talking about the offensive line and

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00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: I was just wondering how the defense, especially in the

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00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: in the NFC East, is gonna play our offensive line.

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00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: You think they're gonna play play US eight in the box.

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00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: And I was just wondering, like, how did we How

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00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: did they play us mostly when we were doing good

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00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: in the second half of the year, when we didn't

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00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: have Beckham in that and uh did they do a

1064
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: lot of press coverage on our wide receivers? You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you'll have time to look into that, well, Joe. Honestly,

1066
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: it depends on the team. Like the Colts, for example,

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00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: they are heavy zone teams, so they played a ton

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00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: of zone when they played against US. Dallas plays more

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00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: man to man, but they play a lot of cover

1070
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: three too, So I think it depends on the team.

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00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: But yes, you did see a lot of the men

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00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 1: in the box in the second half of the year,

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00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: and frankly, I think even a good portion of the

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00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: first half of the year too, because teams didn't want, say,

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00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley to beat him, and as long as he's here,

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00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna see stack boxes. That's just the way it goes, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Is it is it better for us to go to

1078
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: tight ends? Or wide receivers split out and we do

1079
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: against that, then you know what I mean, how would

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00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: you uh uh go against that? Play action? Play action

1081
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: out of big personnel. And one of the reasons they

1082
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: had eight guys in the box, by the way, is

1083
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: because there was twelve personnel with two tight ends on

1084
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: the field, and you have play action with big people

1085
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: on the field works like magic against that. Did you

1086
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: see what what what ELI did last year in the

1087
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: last four or five games, particularly, they rolled the pocket

1088
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: a lot to get away from that. So you know,

1089
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: these are things that can combat the eight man in

1090
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: the box, and until you can prove you can block it,

1091
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna see it. Well, one thing I know about

1092
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: the eight in the box there if if the offensive

1093
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: line does get on on the defensive guys and gives

1094
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: Barkley a little hole there's there's not too much behind them,

1095
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: then once he breaks through, yep, absolutely so uh that

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00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: that's one big advantage and you know of that. So okay,

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00:53:56,160 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: thanks for Joe. He makes a good point about the

1098
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: offensive line too. I feel like, you know, with this

1099
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: veteran g I'm calling him a veteran group because I

1100
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: feel like this offensive line to me is so much

1101
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: more established that I can call him a veteran line

1102
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 1: that they're going to be able to at the point

1103
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 1: in contact open up these holes. They're gonna work together

1104
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be able to understand the offense to

1105
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: a point where it's gonna help, say Kawan Barkley. These guys,

1106
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 1: you know, they offensive lineman, love to run block. They're

1107
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: not a favorite. They don't like to pass back all

1108
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: that much. So we'll see what happens. You're ready, Yeah,

1109
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: let's go. I got my my energy brain energy on.

1110
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: Did he play with Jeff Eagel? Who I don't have

1111
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: a great memory, only two NFL seasons, hundreds of players

1112
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: Eagles with the Eagles. Let's see who Jeff remembers. You

1113
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: can make a mockery of my memory. Here's your host

1114
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: that was just so bad about that one. All right, Jeff,

1115
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: you're ready to go. I did show you an Eagles

1116
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: player card today, so he did way back? Here we go,

1117
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: Here we go, folks. Did you play it? Derek Odin?

1118
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: Derek Odin, Yes, I did? And what team did you

1119
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 1: you have to get to? You know that? Do I

1120
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 1: believe it was at the Cardinals? Oh? All right, damn

1121
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: try again, Derek Odin yeh man, No, I remember the guy.

1122
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,479
Speaker 1: I just remember what team was. He was a defensive back.

1123
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: Here was a linebacker. He was on your Eagles team.

1124
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: He played with the Eagles from probly A core special

1125
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: teams guys, I should have known that, absolutely, Dave. Do

1126
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: you like this too? Do you like them making fun

1127
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: of me like this? Dave? I'm not making funny on incorrectly?

1128
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: Actually pretty funny. Did you play with Leonard ren Fro?

1129
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: Leonard ren Fro? I remember the name? I do? I do?

1130
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: I did play with Leonard Renfro. What team did you

1131
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: play with? Letter for a lot receiver? Was your receiver? Nope,

1132
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: he was not a receiver. See what would receive? Would position?

1133
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: To set a team up? The name? Again? All right?

1134
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: So Cardinals? Yes, that's incorrect. He was a defensive tackle

1135
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: away two pounds and he played on the Philadelphia Eagles.

1136
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: From Did you play with the Great Roger Vick? Roger Vick?

1137
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: M hmm, yeah, I play with Roger back. Where did

1138
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,919
Speaker 1: you play with Roger Vick? Well, since you've already gone

1139
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:56,760
Speaker 1: twice to the Eagles, I'm gonna say the Eagles's correct?

1140
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 1: There we go. H he was a linebacker, fullback, fullback

1141
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: roger and he was only there for you with one year.

1142
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: So I'm that's what I thought it was gonna be

1143
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: the toughest one. All right, final one, last one of

1144
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: the show. Did you play with Harper LaBelle? Come on,

1145
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: Harper LaBelle, come on, seriously? Two for four folks for

1146
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: the crow, and I should get this, I should get

1147
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: an extra one for bonus. Yes, I did, New England Patriots.

1148
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: Excuse me, uh Philadelphia. He was a long snapper and

1149
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: he was left. He was a long snapper. I didn't

1150
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: know that there. I almost don't want to give that

1151
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: to that's too easy. What position did he really? It

1152
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: was a tight end, yes he was, but I didn't

1153
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: know he was a long snapper. And he was only

1154
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: on the one year in Philly too. That's what I

1155
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: thought it was gonna be tough. Let me tell you something.

1156
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: He was in real quickly. Normally normally people the snappers,

1157
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: they get the ball back and like point seven five.

1158
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: He was a point six Oh, like, I mean, you

1159
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: don't even understand how fast that. There's nothing on Pro

1160
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: Football Reference that indicates somebody played long snapper. It's not

1161
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: my fault. No nobody cares. I care. I care enough

1162
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: to know that that's who he was. Jeff's remember, folks,

1163
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Speaker 1: were back with you. Next week Mini Camp is Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

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Speaker 1: The show is gonna be one thirty those days to

1165
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: accommodate practice and media availability. But Monday we're back at

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Speaker 1: noon and THEGN again. Next week Mini Camp Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

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Speaker 1: The show will be a one thirty on those days.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy your weekend for Jeff Fiegos on John. It's all

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