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Speaker 1: You don't on everybody. Welcome to the Fantasy Flex from

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Speaker 1: the Action Network in Fantasy webs I'm your host, Chris Raybon,

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Speaker 1: and I am joined as always by the odds maker

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Speaker 1: Sean Kerner. Sean, congrats again on your top five Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Pros rankings, accuracy finishing season along over the past three seasons,

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Speaker 1: consistent as always.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, congrats on the top ten multi year accuracy. And

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Speaker 3: I see behind you you have your top five trophy.

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Speaker 2: Was that from last year? One of them? One of

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Speaker 2: them broke or it's like a popp Is there a

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Speaker 1: Is there a story about?

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Speaker 1: I just I tend to move stuff around behind me,

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Speaker 1: so I usually like two is a lot. I think

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Speaker 1: So it's like I usually kind of shift one and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there you go. I thought I thought there's

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Speaker 2: Or something. What did I rip off?

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Speaker 1: Was that just a white tea or was it a

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Speaker 2: No it was it wasn't a jersey. I think it was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just and then that was the one that

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Speaker 2: But yeah you kept that shirt for a while, man,

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Speaker 1: I should have ripped up my CJ strout of Jersey.

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Speaker 1: As shaky as their season was last year, I should

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Speaker 1: way their Super Bowl came doing. But I digress's Uh go, AFC.

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Speaker 1: AFC South Sean's start with the Houston Texans that I

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Speaker 1: just mentioned. We know Nico is a baller, top ten

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. Will any of the other ancillary weapons in

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Speaker 1: this new Nick Kyley offense return startuble fantasy value? And

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about Christian Kirk who likely starts some slot

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Speaker 1: and talking Jayden Higgins, a rookie, and I'm talking fellow

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Speaker 1: rookie teammate Jalen Noel, which one of those guys, your.

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Speaker 3: Guy, if oh, oh, there is somebody, it is absolutely

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Speaker 3: Jade Higgins. And there's targets up for grabs because you

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, Kirk and Higgins will will step

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Speaker 3: He's he's actually pretty similar to Nico Collins. Like he's

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Speaker 3: WHICH i do SO i love Getting Jayden higgins anytime

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Speaker 1: Exciting AND i think what is going to benefit him

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Speaker 1: is That nico is a TRUE x as. Well and,

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Speaker 1: yeah you brought In Christian kirk who can play the

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Speaker 1: this New Nick kyley, offense they're gonna find ways to

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Speaker 1: reminds me of this This Texan Receiving corps sej strous

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Speaker 1: Think higgins is kind of like Remember Noah brown had

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Speaker 1: that's What higgins kind of reminds me. Of just hopefully

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Speaker 1: it's more. Consistent and Then Jaywn noel would be Tanked

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Speaker 1: dell and, Uh Christian kirk would Be Robert woods and

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Speaker 1: What you got for Me houston looking At, Yeah so

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Speaker 1: let's let's talk about our Boy Nick.

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Speaker 3: Chubb, obviously you, know just the fact that he was

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Speaker 3: See you, know he only averaged three point three yards

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Speaker 3: Chubb so my question is is he going to return

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Speaker 3: is he just? Cooked like was that like a career

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Speaker 1: LOW i, mean you're talking about a team that was

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Speaker 1: Possible BUT i Think, HOUSTON i think this is just

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Speaker 1: GUYS i don't know if it's A Nick casario thing

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator IN, kaili do you see the roles shifting

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Speaker 3: You know last, season, uh and didn't really Have they

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Speaker 3: don't really Like Damian pierce that much and when you,

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Speaker 3: Know mixing was, out they really struggled to replace.

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Speaker 3: I, MEAN i don't think he's going to be averaging

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Speaker 3: but if he does bounce, back like he could definitely

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Speaker 3: eat Into mixan's role enough to Where i'd be very

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Speaker 3: concerned Taking mixing as like a high END rb. Two

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Speaker 3: but you, know If Nick chubb just doesn't have, it

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Speaker 3: Then mixan is still going to be a work horse,

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Speaker 3: it very. Closely you know How Nick chubb looks in

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Speaker 1: MIXING i just think the writing is on the wall

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Speaker 1: not big on third down, work LIKE i think that's

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Speaker 1: been overrated in this MODERN nfl because if you have

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Speaker 1: a feature, back the best time for him to take

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Speaker 1: a breather is third down because you're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: Much rather have that back john to the, sidelines let

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Speaker 1: down work is not necessary in this day and. Age

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Speaker 1: but now you're talking about a guy who could eat

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Speaker 1: KNOWS i mean maybe If Damian pierce were better last,

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Speaker 1: schemes and. Whatnot, uh they would have not Given mixing

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Speaker 1: as much work as they did because they really Ran

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Speaker 2: YEAR i WAS i was.

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Speaker 1: Surprised now he did look good for for for most

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Speaker 1: of the, Year but, YEAH i want to be ahead

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Speaker 1: of there's another guy just Like montgomery we talked about

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Speaker 1: With chubb until. Now there's there's a chance Maybe chubb

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Speaker 1: Jk dobbins season in. Him he Could but, yeah that's

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Speaker 1: kind of For. Chubb What i'm thinking probably a nondescript

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Speaker 1: Is but let's, say because of this quarterback, situation you

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Speaker 1: do have some pass catchers that you can get pretty,

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Speaker 1: weight you can build some stacks. Around my question to

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Speaker 1: Value since they're all similarly eighty P'd Josh, Downs Michael,

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Speaker 1: Pittman Tyler warren choose. One And i'm not Including Alet

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Speaker 1: Who are, threat who are a threat for, volume who

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Speaker 1: you take in Downs putman Or, Warren it's it's.

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Speaker 3: DEFINITELY i probably can't Take warrens BECAUSE i Like Colson

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Speaker 3: Here i'm gonna go With Josh, Downs and unfortunately that

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Speaker 3: might Require Daniel jones to start more games Than Anthony.

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Speaker 3: RICHARDSON i think that would Help Josh downs out, specifically

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Speaker 3: so THAT i think those are. CORRELATED i think If

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Speaker 3: i'm you, know doing some Crazy colt. STACK i would

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Speaker 3: Pair Daniel jones With Josh, downs BUT i just Think

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Speaker 3: Josh downs upside is. There he's probably less reliant on

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Speaker 3: Downs what about?

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Speaker 1: You, yeah It's Josh downs for, me war and number

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Speaker 1: two And pittman would be. THIRD i Think downs is

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Speaker 2: Pittman you, KNOW i love me Some Michael, pittman BUT i.

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Speaker 1: Think the, injuries the, role the quarterback, situation the emergence Of,

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Speaker 3: Yep, well you said we're done talking about, it But i'm.

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Speaker 3: Not let's just throw it out. There who who starts

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Speaker 3: more games this? Year Daniel jones Or Anthony? Richardson Anthony,

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Speaker 3: richardson how many?

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Speaker 3: Like how many games are you? Projecting very that's very.

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Speaker 3: Bullish do we have the latest on his like shoulder.

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Speaker 3: he Still is he still going to Be?

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Speaker 2: Uh i've heard.

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Speaker 1: That i've heard optimistic, Like, okay he's gonna Be like

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Speaker 1: it was kind of, like you, know when it was initially,

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Speaker 1: like you, know there's no. Timetable, well, yeah teams aren't

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Speaker 1: putting timetables On april. Injuries but from WHAT i, hear

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Speaker 1: guys that still carries that massive upside because he runs the.

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Speaker 1: out how to throw the. FOOTBALL i as A giants,

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Speaker 1: FAN i know that when you're, like the biggest co

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Speaker 1: of confidence you can give for your starter is to

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Speaker 1: have him compete With Daniel, jones like this is the

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Speaker 1: they can Play Danny, DeVito i Mean Tommy, DeVito i

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Speaker 1: Mean Nick. BOYLE i, MEAN i don't even know if

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Speaker 1: he's got Like.

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Speaker 1: LOCKE i, mean come, on, Now Daniel jones is not.

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Speaker 1: Good he could he can pepper week. Neighbors SO i

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Speaker 1: guess he could Pepper Josh. Downs probably he probably is,

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Speaker 1: better but even, THAT i don't know if he's truly

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Speaker 1: better because he's just such a terrible. Quarterback he could

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Speaker 1: like sink the entire offense and Make Jonathan taylor look shaky.

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Speaker 1: Again SO i STILL i hope It's, richardson BUT i

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Speaker 1: think it's everyone's so down on him That i've been

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Speaker 1: scooping him up EVERYWHERE i. CAN i think he's got

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Speaker 2: Upside and he.

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Speaker 1: Only he only LEFT i think it was one game

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Speaker 1: due to. Injury he played one hundred percent of the

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Speaker 1: not like he, was you, know in.

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Speaker 2: And out of games like he was as a.

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Speaker 1: Rookie it was just but of course the minute you say,

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Speaker 1: Injury but the point is he's a. Guy it's kind

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Speaker 1: of like A Cam newton. Situation he's gonna be banged

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Speaker 1: every some odd years he's gonna be like a top five.

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Speaker 2: Quarterback other years he's gonna be just a complete.

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Speaker 1: Bust but the difference between this year and last year

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Speaker 1: is last year he was going LIKE qb, SIX qb,

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Speaker 1: eight and this year he's going outside the top.

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Speaker 2: Twenty, four so you can get him as A qb.

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Speaker 1: THREE i think that there's literally zero, Downside so that's

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Speaker 1: If Daniel jones does, START i don't think there's that

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Speaker 1: same kind of. Upside LIKE i just think it's a new,

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Speaker 1: offense new, Weapons Jonathan. TAYLOR i just don't see the same.

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Speaker 1: Upside we've been down this road With Daniel jones before

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Speaker 1: and he got cut after six, Games So i'm off

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Speaker 1: That i'm. Off, yeah what's Our do we have a

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Speaker 2: Starter?

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Speaker 3: Uh, no because of the, injury but they you have

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Speaker 3: who will leave the team in passing? Yards so this

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Speaker 3: is you, know season, One, yeah. Prob, YEAH i would

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Speaker 3: assume if, Anything richardson is, healthy he'll Start week. One

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Speaker 3: they have to see what they have in, him and

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Speaker 3: Then Daniel jones will be the. Disaster you, know got

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Speaker 3: to turn. Him but they Have Daniel jones minus one

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Speaker 3: fifty to lead The colts in passing, Yards richardson's plus

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Speaker 3: one twenty five And Riley leonard is forty to.

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Speaker 2: One, yeah the two Non jones.

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Speaker 1: GUYS i MEAN i was about to Say Riley Riley

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Speaker 1: leonard outside shot if things go poorly for the. COACH i,

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Speaker 1: mean wouldn't you want to see what you have in

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Speaker 1: Here Daniel. Jones the thing that worries me About Daniel

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Speaker 1: jones is That kevin O'Connell didn't even bother like. That

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Speaker 1: that that to me is it's, like you, know like

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Speaker 1: they got it that he was on a team And

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Speaker 1: kevin O'Connell will play anybody At, Corbett but they didn't even.

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Speaker 1: Bother they're, like now we're gonna go with what they

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Speaker 1: got in, There Sam, Howell NOW i think it.

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Speaker 2: Is, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's like and they got a rookie, starting so's

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Speaker 1: you would have Thought Daniel jones would have been somebody

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Speaker 1: they would have brought. Back but, yeah, nope but YEAH

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Speaker 1: i WOULD i like those. Odds i'm gonna bet. That,

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Speaker 1: okay let's Go jacksonville another, team one of one of

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Speaker 1: our favorite teams to talk. About, UH i, mean you

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Speaker 1: know WHERE i stand on, This but where are you?

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Speaker 1: At i'm sure this is gonna be, dynamic and this

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Speaker 1: something like. That but where are you with The jaguar

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Speaker 1: backfields in terms of the usage distribution Between travis Etn

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Speaker 1: Tank bigsby and Rookie Basial.

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Speaker 3: Touton, YEAH i mean there's a lot to unpack. HERE

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Speaker 3: i think, overall the running game is going to be

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Speaker 3: better this. YEAR i think that's What William cohen will.

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Speaker 3: Bring we saw it with The buccaneers last. Year you,

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Speaker 3: Know Buck irving stole the head, lines he was, amazing

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Speaker 3: but Ra Sean white had his most efficient, Season Sean

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Speaker 3: tucker was extremely. EFFICIENT i think the average over six

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Speaker 3: yards to, carry SO i just think that you, know

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Speaker 3: he's going to elevate this rushing attack in. General SO

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Speaker 3: i Think Travis etn gets the first. Crack now he

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Speaker 3: might get traded or something then that really throws the

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Speaker 3: wrench into, things BUT i Think etn will get first.

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Speaker 3: CRACK i Thought King Big spy was great last, year

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Speaker 3: very good on early, downs very, efficient so he could make.

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Speaker 3: NOISE i don't see many people talking about. Him and

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Speaker 3: then your Boy Bashall tuton probably the most likely player

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Speaker 3: to be this Year's Bucky irving because he is playing

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Speaker 3: For Liam cohen could pop. Too so this is just

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Speaker 3: a very volatile. Backfield or more times than, not in these,

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Speaker 3: SITUATIONS i just tend to go with the cheaper. GUY

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Speaker 3: i think all of these guys have a shot to

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Speaker 3: be a potential league. Winner so this is this is

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Speaker 3: definitely a situation That i'm going into training camp with

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Speaker 3: my priors of having At, Etn, tooting and Then bigsby

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Speaker 3: in terms of How i'm ranking. Them but it's gonna

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Speaker 3: Preseason but this this is a situation where really any

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Speaker 3: one of these backs could become the, guy but in

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Speaker 3: WHAT i think will be a very more efficient rushing

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Speaker 3: offense than we've seen From.

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: YEP i can't say enough good things About. COHEN i

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Speaker 1: mean the work he did with that running because a

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Speaker 1: lot of people might, think, okay, well The bucks ended

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Speaker 1: up as one of the top rushing, teams you, know

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Speaker 1: mostly due To Bucky.

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Speaker 2: Irving but, no they.

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Speaker 1: Had they took an offensive line at bottom bottom of

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Speaker 2: And through both of the same, tackles.

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Speaker 1: but it was buying and that's pretty. Rare and it's

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Speaker 1: with scheme as. Well and BUT i Think William cohen's,

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Speaker 1: scheming uh, yeah really shines in the past. Game and

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Speaker 1: Think bigsby has to be number, three because you could

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Speaker 1: See bigsby as There Sean, tucker Like Sean tucker was really,

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Speaker 1: good and then it was, like, okay well we Got

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Speaker 1: Rashad white and That's. Etn etn Is Rashad. White, Yep

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Speaker 1: Traded but, YEAH i think there is a possibility that

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Speaker 1: because at the end of the, day he's tends to

432
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: be more limited in the past game AND i don't

433
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 1: think that's gonna fly With Liam, Cohen like he needs

434
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: all those guys to be able to catch the ball

435
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 1: and be an asset there and that's That's even Though

436
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: etn has struggled as a runner in, SITUATIONS i do

437
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: think he brings a lot more to the pass game

438
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 1: than Bigs. Big all, right what are you looking at

439
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: in This jags offen because it is a Lot this

440
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 1: could be a very high upside.

441
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 2: Offense, yeah well.

442
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 3: YEAH i think the trickiest projection is this Rookie Travis

443
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 3: hunter because he's such a unique player where you, know

444
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 3: one of the top wide receivers this year's, class but

445
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 3: also one of the top. Cornerbacks so What i'm going

446
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 3: to be looking, for What i'm going to ask you

447
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 3: is just how much should we exploct Expect Travis hunter

448
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 3: to be on offense versus? Defense and is he gonna

449
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 3: miss playing time on offense just because you know he

450
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 3: can't play the entire?

451
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 2: Game?

452
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 3: Right so kind of what do you expect his ratio

453
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 3: between like offensive and defensive snaps will be this year.

454
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: As much offense as he can handle defense situational. DEFENSE

455
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 1: i think the fact that we have an offensive minded

456
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: head coach is what swings it for. Me, like you

457
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: don't take, over you, know comfort being one of the

458
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: having one of the best coordinator seasons in recent. Memory

459
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: you take, Over remember it was all that weird. Stuff

460
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: you get THE gm, fired you get your guy put,

461
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 1: In you trade up For Travis. Hunter you're an offensive.

462
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: Guy your offense stunk last. Year you already have a

463
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: generational wide. Receiver you need to take the pressure off of.

464
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: Him you don't really have anyone else that can do.

465
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: That you Have Diami brown role, player could be a

466
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 1: good best ball. Pick Brenton strange another, one but role,

467
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: player And Parker washington another role. Player you have good role,

468
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: players but Without Travis. Hunter like With Travis hunter lining

469
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: up across From Brian Thomas, junior that's where this offense. Gets,

470
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 1: okay we can go from twenty points a game to

471
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: thirty points a game like The bucks. Did like that's

472
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: that's who give him that. Upside SO i think he

473
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: plays as much offense as. POSSIBLE i just Think coanes

474
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: being a little bit coy about the. Defense but come,

475
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,239
Speaker 1: on defensive, Guy, like what's he gonna? Do just oh,

476
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: NAH i just go to the defensive. Meeting now he's

477
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: going to be in everywhere receiver meeting and then he's

478
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: just you, know they already do that with some guy

479
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: like remember edmand used to play some. Defense like he'll

480
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: be out there maybe third, downs key maybe red, zone

481
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: you know key. Spots he'll be out there both sides

482
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: of the. Ball i'm sure he'll ask into the game

483
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: quite a bit on defense as. Well but if you

484
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna get his like offense, PRIORITY i,

485
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: Mean I'm i'm not even gonna question it because we

486
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: saw last year every single receiver for The bucks balled

487
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: out Under. Cohen so like the guys counted His, Hunter

488
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 1: i'm not EVEN i don't want to overthink. It i'm

489
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: just Gonna i'm just gonna treat him like he's gonna

490
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: be A i THINK i Have hi about seventy five,

491
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 1: percent which is conservative seventy five eighty, percent and h

492
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: he might end up just being a true ninety plus.

493
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,959
Speaker 2: Guy where are you at with his route rate right?

494
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 3: Now, Yeah i'm in. LIE i think around like seventy

495
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 3: percent to. Start, yeah he should be playing like over ninety.

496
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: Percent AND i have my defensive projections, too WHERE i

497
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 3: THINK i don't, KNOW i might have him around like

498
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 3: twenty percent to. Start it's hard to say that's that's

499
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 3: the area That i'm not really. Sure and like you,

500
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 3: said they're probably BEING koi about, it but THEY i,

501
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 3: mean they traded up to get him number, two SO

502
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 3: i think they're just gonna want him to provide something on,

503
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 3: defense so especially you, know if if their cornerbacks pick

504
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 3: up injuries or, something he might be asked to play more.

505
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 3: Defense but it's just one of the more fascinating Things i've,

506
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 3: seen just having this two way. Player so it'll be

507
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 3: fun to see, him fun to, watch AND i, AGREE

508
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 3: i think having him line up across From Brian Thomas

509
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 3: junior is too good to pass, up so they're going

510
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 3: to try to play him as much as possible an.

511
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: Offense, yeah and keep tabs on The jags defense as,

512
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: well because remember this is all big regime Changed trent balky.

513
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: Out So.

514
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: I've been, hearing you, know some of the younger cornerbacks

515
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: are actually having good camps and that could could mitigate

516
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: the need to Play hunter quite as, much BECAUSE i

517
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: think some people thought he may even START i, think

518
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,479
Speaker 1: But i'm hearing good things about some of their other.

519
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: Corners and remember this is not one of those. Teams

520
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: it's like The saints where you might kind of be

521
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: sour on them after a lot of years AND i

522
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 1: don't even want to call it, purgatory might be worse than.

523
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: That but, uh it just hasn't been pretty much of

524
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: the time for The Jacksonville. Jaguars but a new, regime

525
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: offensive minded head. Coach so don't don't, Sleep i'm not

526
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: going To i'm not gonna overthink. It i'm Taking i'm

527
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: taking Every jags player pretty much BECAUSE i JUST i,

528
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: mean you, know a lot of times the true upside

529
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: and you know guys that kind of break out that you,

530
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: know weren't predicted. To it's it's, concentrated and it could

531
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: be very concentrated among a select group of. Teams LIKE

532
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: i think The packers are a candidate with all their

533
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: passing game guys being. UNDERVALUED i think The jaguars with

534
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: With cohen and you know there's a fields but uh, yeah,

535
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: well like Like, Hunter i'm Not i'm. Not i'm not

536
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: going to pass up on him BECAUSE i, mean he's.

537
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: Just he's just too.

538
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: Good like it's like Remember Odell beckham that, year he

539
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: is like all those question. MARKS i think he started

540
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: he was like. Injured that's the guy where the talent

541
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: overrode the early. Injury With, hunter he's not even. Hurt it's,

542
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: just oh, well he played some. DEFENSE i don't, care,

543
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: Man LIKE i just give me all The, jaguars all.

544
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: Right titans speaking like the opposite end of the. Spectrum you,

545
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,479
Speaker 1: know they they Brought calahan over last year From, tennessee excuse,

546
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: me From cincinnati To. Tennessee but did not look like

547
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: A Joe burrow. OFFENSE i guess it looked like A

548
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow week one and two offense there In. Tennessee

549
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: but you did have a bright, spot and that Was

550
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: Tony power.

551
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: Who turned into a true.

552
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: Workhorse can you have a, repeat, Ude do you think

553
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: it's you, know it would be kind of chasing last

554
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: year to draft him as you're running back To.

555
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 3: Yeah this is a great question BECAUSE i think it's

556
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 3: there's a lot of layers of this because last YEAR

557
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 3: i WAS i was kind of Low unpollard his last

558
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 3: season In. Dallas he came back from that like high ankle.

559
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: Injury he just didn't look the, same so it was

560
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 3: hard to really project. Him but THEN i saw him

561
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 3: it was like week one or two of. Preseason he

562
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: looked like Old Tony, pollard pre Injury Tony. Pollard SO

563
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: i started moving him out of my. RANKS i was

564
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 3: starting to get pretty high On. Pollard but he also

565
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 3: benefited From Taj spears just missing a ton of time

566
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: and this that was gonna be a. Situation we thought

567
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 3: it'd be more of an even time. Share so he

568
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: looked really good last. Year he looked good as a workhorse,

569
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 3: back BUT i think a lot of that was due

570
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: To spears being, out AND i still think very highly

571
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 3: Of Taj. Spears he's healthy right, now so if he stays,

572
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: HEALTHY i think he's gonna eat Into pollard's role more this.

573
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,239
Speaker 3: YEAR i, think you, Know callen was saying that at

574
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 3: times last, year Whenever spears is, healthy he, said we

575
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 3: need to give you, Know pollard some. Breathers he's, been you,

576
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 3: know seeing too many touches or things like. THAT i

577
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 3: Think callahan probably wants us to be closer to a

578
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 3: committee than people would hope that are Drafting. Pollard SO

579
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: i have, him you, know right around LIKE rb twenty.

580
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 3: Four he's not exactly like a frozen pond, back BUT

581
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 3: i would just be careful, that you, know we probably

582
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: won't see him be a true workhorse back as much

583
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 3: as last, year even though he looked really good doing.

584
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 3: It so he's he's definitely a mixed, bag BUT i

585
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 3: Think spears could eat into that more this.

586
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: Year he's absolutely a frozen pond. BACK i, MEAN i

587
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: feel like LIKE i have no idea what's going to

588
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: happen With Tony. Power, no, yeah, yeah he's absolutely a

589
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: frozen back in my pond.

590
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: Anyway, yeah, Yeah like IF i go.

591
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 3: Through the practical, definition he could. Be but he's he's

592
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 3: been a legit running back at, times so you, KNOW

593
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 3: i don't think of him as a frozen, pundback BUT

594
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: i think the market we'll probably be overrating him too,

595
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 3: much just based on WHAT i, said just you, Know

596
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: spears missing all that. Time so, yeah he could be

597
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 3: a frozen pond. Back i'll get back to you on.

598
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 3: That still still trying to figure out who's in the

599
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 3: pond this.

600
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: Year yeah he.

601
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: Could because he did look good on film last.

602
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: Year, yeah and so he does have some kind of

603
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: some of That.

604
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: James connor appeal where it's, like we're gonna we might

605
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: just be writing them off and he just keeps bawling. Out,

606
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: also the offense didn't get any worse than it was last.

607
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: Year but one thing that does worry me that kind

608
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: of complicates. Things AND i don't know if this is

609
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: just whip, servers But callahan has been a numerous occasions

610
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: this offseason mentioned how he wants a different he wants

611
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: to add a different style of back to the offense

612
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: in addition to power And. Spears it sounds like more

613
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,959
Speaker 1: of a between the, tackles bigger. Guy that's why they

614
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,719
Speaker 1: Drafted Khaleil. Mullings and they ALSO i just saw they

615
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: signed A Hi Davis. Price you, know he gave it

616
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: a kick the tires on Old Tie Davis. Price so

617
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: it definitely seems like he does want to add that

618
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: element to the, uh to the running back, room and

619
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: that does worry me because you know that could be

620
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: powered you, know at the goal line or something like.

621
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: That and you already Mentioned spears probably cuts into his

622
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: pass down, work which was a lot higher than expected last.

623
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: Year so, uh, yeah there's the floor is a lot.

624
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: Lower the ceilings still what it.

625
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: Is but just the guy who got a monitor in,

626
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: camp BECAUSE i remember toward the end of last season

627
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: he was really tough to project because he wasn't. Practicing

628
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: remember he was like he would GO Dmp, Wednesday, Thursday

629
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: friday and then get twenty five carries On. Sunday so

630
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: it's like he would get those like mind, fuck just

631
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: complete week weeks off where you thought he might be

632
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: more banged up than, he you, know than they're, indicating

633
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: and then it's, like, no we're just saving him for the.

634
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: Game so, yeah wide range out comes WITH, tp but

635
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: lower FLOOR i thinklast, year yeah for.

636
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,479
Speaker 3: Sure all, Right well my question to you, is, uh

637
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 3: who the hell is going to be the number two

638
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: receiver Behind Calvin ridley and this.

639
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: OFFENSE i don't, know ask somebody. DRAFTED i haven't drafted

640
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: any of these. Dudes.

641
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: MAN i feel LIKE i hear a new flavor of

642
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: the of the late In bestball drafts every other. Day

643
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: it's like after the, DRAFT i think it Was Eye,

644
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: manor and then then they Signed, ristrepo everyone kind of

645
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: pivoted To. Rastreppo let's not forget that you got good

646
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: old Trustee Van, jefferson there Tyro Tyler lockett you, got

647
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: and then there's ALSO dk who probably more of a

648
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: factor in the return, game and another. Rookie so there's

649
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: literally two day three, picks two washed, veterans and then

650
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,479
Speaker 1: There's Traylon BURKE'S i guess three washed, veterans and then

651
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: like there's all these like it's just a mind. Fucker

652
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: Calvin ridley is the guy want in that. Offense that's

653
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: that's pretty much it at this point for, Me Calvin,

654
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: ridley Cam, WARD i think everything else is just gonna

655
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: kind of be touch and go until they figured OUT i,

656
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: mean do you have any preference among like any of

657
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: the the younger guys Catch, ry because LIKE i don't

658
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: think Like locker And jefferson are going to provide.

659
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: Value they might just hog snaps if.

660
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: Anything but do you, think you, know MAYBE dk Or,

661
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: strepo Io man or any of those guys stand out to?

662
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 2: You, no not, Really, okay no.

663
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 3: REALLY i don't think this is a fantasy relevant. Question

664
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 3: this is just setting projections. Question but, yeah it could

665
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 3: just be just a medley of. GUYS i think The

666
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 3: titans would love If burks were an emergency. Here but

667
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 3: he's still coming back from an acl. Terror SO i

668
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 3: don't even know if he's gonna be ready for kicks. Over, yeah,

669
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 3: yeah it's over from. Already, YEAH i think so he wasn't.

670
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: That great, Ready like it's like that's all name. Value it's, like,

671
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 1: yeah but, Guy Bruce, oliver he's still?

672
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: There?

673
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: Yeah who's The Takwan? Jackson still? There Colton?

674
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: Dowell still?

675
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: There?

676
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 3: Now who's the slot Of Kyle? Phillips where the hell is?

677
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 2: He?

678
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 3: Is he liked he would have a chance to be

679
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: the number two receiver in this?

680
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: Batch but uh is? He?

681
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: Uh yeah he's The.

682
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: Panthers yeah, Yeah, carolina, yeah damn uh, Yeah WELL i

683
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: want none of these. Guys i'm with. YOU i Think

684
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: ridley is the, guy especially with the.

685
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 3: More yeah, maybe, well, yeah different. Positions, Yeah i'm always

686
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 3: on board the chick. Train but, yeah REALLY i think

687
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 3: just having Cam ward there giving him more accurate deep

688
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 3: balls will you, know be huge for someone Like Calvin.

689
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 3: Ridley so, yeah that's kind of my. Point it's just

690
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: we'll kind of watch the camp unfold and see what happen.

691
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 3: Happens but, yeah any anybody outside Of Calverley i'm not

692
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 3: too interested.

693
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: IN i, MEAN i will be paying, attention and the

694
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: only Reason i'll be paying attention is, well two. Things Number,

695
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: One Brian callahan was previously the offensive coordinator In cincinnati

696
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: and they had no problem throwing the ball forty times

697
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: a game With. Burrow and so if Cam ward, is you,

698
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: know as, advertised you could see you could See tennessee

699
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: surprisingly spiked to one of the more pass heavy teams

700
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: in the. League And i'm always on the lookout for

701
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: the Next Nick Westbrook. Akinne so oh, yeah you do

702
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: have to kind of pay attention to who's THAT x

703
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: receiver gonna. Be you, know it's because i, Mean Westbrook

704
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: akene was just a touchdown. Machine, now a lot of,

705
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: that you, know was. Luck but the way this offense

706
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: is kind of sets up the same way where defenses

707
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: are gonna Overplay, Ridley he's still gonna get his and

708
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: probably be force fed. Targets but when, when when it

709
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: comes to those like deep shots in red, zone you

710
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: might end up having to go to your second and third,

711
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: read and So i'll be paying. Attention but, Yeah I'M

712
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: i think all these, guys it's like best, ball flavor

713
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: of the, month, irrelevant probably all irrelevant as far AS

714
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: i can. Tell all, right let's GO Afc. West let's

715
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: start with The Denver. Broncos give them some love after

716
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: that that season that they had last. Year my, QUESTION

717
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: i got an interesting. One so this, year it's, like

718
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: in addition to everyone just not drafting running backs for

719
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: a few rounds in the middle of the, draft pretty

720
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: much no one's drafting quarterbacks of tight ends. Either it's

721
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: like a very it's like A barbell strategy AND i

722
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: seem to leave if you ever read any of him

723
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: where everyone is just drafting all these mid round. Receivers

724
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: so you have a glut OF rb twos and, threes

725
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: and then a glut of mid, range low end quarterbacks

726
00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: and tight ends that are very attainable and. Affordable So

727
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: my question to you, is would you rather have Bow

728
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: knicks as YOUR qb one Or Evan ingram as your

729
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: tight end?

730
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 2: One, yeah this is a great. Question i'm gonna just

731
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 2: go with Bo.

732
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 3: NICKS i do think just based ON, ADP i have

733
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 3: them a little bit higher THAN i Do ingram based on.

734
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 3: Position So i'm gonna go with Bo necks because you

735
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 3: had a very impressive rookie, season should be better in

736
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 3: your two thanks to you, know people Like Evan ingram

737
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 3: now being in the. Mix but you, know next still

738
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 3: has that rushing upside that we covet in, fantasy So

739
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: i'm gonna go with. Him but the interesting thing, is

740
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 3: WHEN i was debating who to, Pick i'm thinking about

741
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 3: The bears player for each you, know alternative. Option you,

742
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 3: know you can Go Caleb williams And Evan ingram or

743
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 3: Bow necks And Colston. Lovelin so that's kind of HOW

744
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: i was thinking about.

745
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: IT i rather what that, one that one all, day

746
00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: that that, time all, day right all.

747
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: Day that's that's HOW i decided. This but THAT'S i

748
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 3: think the. Decision right in this, Range.

749
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 2: Evan ingram might not even be a top fifteen tight.

750
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: End it's surprising to me that he's climbing draft boards

751
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: because REMEMBER i, Was i'm, like the tight end might

752
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: not be as good as. Advertised whisperer With REMEMBER i,

753
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: WAS i think it was it was that guy he

754
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: doesn't even play, Anymore. DULPHIN i was, like, Yo Sean

755
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 1: payton has a has a nap for for not playing

756
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: these tight ends as much as we. Think and the

757
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: issue for me With Evan ingram is, that, yes he's

758
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: gonna absolutely make Bon nicks, better which is WHY i

759
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: want Bon. Nigs but there's just so many options now

760
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: and mouse defeed in this offense because you Have harvey

761
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: And dobbins are running, back And harvey's a guy that

762
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: they've been likning, to like A Darren sproles. Type then at,

763
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: Receiver Troy franklin's running with the starters and having a

764
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: great camp, apparently and he was a he had he

765
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: already had chemistry a Bow. Knicks and Then Pat, Bryant

766
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: Sean payton's comparing him To Michael, thomas and he's currently

767
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 1: running as the number, four and he like what ends

768
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: up happening Is mims probably is the one to actually

769
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: drop out of the. Rotation but he had a monster

770
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: finish to last, year and he's going to be involved

771
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: one way or another as a as a gadget. Guy so,

772
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: like and then you Had, veyley who probably is like

773
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: a game day healthy and active now at this point

774
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: with the way their receiving corps is, looking SO i

775
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: just think there's too many mouse to. Feet and then

776
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: there's Still Troutman, Atkins Lucas kroll at tight end Right,

777
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: like there's just too many guys for me to confidently

778
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: Say Evan ingram is going to dominate targets Behind Courtland.

779
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: Sutton but Bow knicks has a significantly better weapons than last,

780
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: season had a great rookie, season and he has just

781
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: enough rushing upside as. Well and now he has even

782
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: he has more like he he has deep ball, guys

783
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: he has contested catch. Guys he has, uh you, know

784
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: gitterbug type gadget guys that could take like a screen

785
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: past sixty yards at multiple of these guys at each.

786
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: Position and in addition to a guy Like, Ingram so,

787
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: like you look around And ingram might end up being

788
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: like the least Sexy, Bronco like somebody's not gonna hit

789
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: value for The. Broncos kind of like The, bears like

790
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: somebody's not gonna hit. Value ingram might end up being that.

791
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: Guy i'm surprised everyone's going quite like tight and eight with.

792
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: HIM i get, it like it's, exciting but he's already

793
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: kind of declining a little, BIT i thought With. Jacksonville so,

794
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 1: Yeah i'm not Loving, ingram but do Love, knicks love

795
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: The broncos, office BUT i just think it's gonna be

796
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: hard to handicap so by uh By nicks that That's

797
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: that's What i'm doing.

798
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: Too what what are you looking at for this? Team,

799
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 2: yeah so let's talk about the running.

800
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 3: Backs so you know The, broncos they finally got rid

801
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 3: Of Javonte, williams your, guy.

802
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 2: And they DRAFTED.

803
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 3: Rj, harvey which, everyone myself included loved the landing spot

804
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 3: because he could probably will be the lead back on day.

805
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 3: One so after the, draft after the dust, settled HIS

806
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 3: adp was sixty two OVERALL rb twenty.

807
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: One then they SIGNED. Jk.

808
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 3: Dobbins when, me you And jamino were recording a, PODCAST

809
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 3: i remember that they SIGNED. Jk dobbins and HIS adp

810
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 3: has remained at sixty two AND rb twenty. One so

811
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 3: basically no change ever since The dobbins.

812
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: Signing is that are you in line with that or

813
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: did you lower him at? All do you THINK.

814
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 3: Rj harvey's a good bye or sell AT rb twenty

815
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 3: one right? Now, like how do you see this shaken

816
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: out this?

817
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 2: YEAR i hate to say, it but probably a.

818
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: SELL i just think they're like there's really a wide

819
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: receiver arms race in those middle, rounds and like it's

820
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: kind of. Safe you know how we always talk about

821
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: you don't want to lose your draft early in the

822
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: first few rounds because everyone's kind of drafted the stud

823
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: running backs but then held off on like those SHAKY

824
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 1: rb twos for the most part until until they've drafted four.

825
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: Receivers and it kind of extends THAT i don't want

826
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: to screw up period a little bit deeper into drafts

827
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: AND i, Again harvey could be THERE rb, one but

828
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: he could he could be like A Darren spros where

829
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: he's only getting a few carries and it's a lot

830
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: of catches and that's that.

831
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 2: Might you, know he'd have to hit a bunch of big.

832
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: Plays we don't And Sean payton another it's Like, shanahan

833
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: you just don't know with, him he's. LIABLE i, mean

834
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: for all we, know it could Be bidet Or. Watson

835
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 1: it could Be Blake. Watson he looks good last. Year i'm,

836
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: Serious i'm not even. Kidding, yeah and then an estimate

837
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: is still on that roster. Too mcglofflin's still on the.

838
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: Roster he was getting feed true work at one. POINT i,

839
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: Mean javonte's, gone, Yes but really the backfield is a

840
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: lot more, crowded to the point WHERE i, mean IS.

841
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: Jk dobbins one? Hundred how much guaranteed money did he?

842
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: Get do you? Remember you? Know, NO i. Remember is

843
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: he even a, lock like a lock to make the?

844
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: TEAM i think he, Is but it seems so crowded

845
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: THAT i almost wonder if they just go with young

846
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: guys because it took a long time For dobbins to get.

847
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: Signed So i'm guessing the league is not looking upon

848
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: him super favorably despite the resurgent season a year, ago

849
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 1: which makes.

850
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 2: A lot of.

851
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: Sense so, YEAH i think he's a. SELL i hate

852
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: to say. IT i just think it's it's gonna. Be,

853
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: really it's kind of like The, bills where it could

854
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: be a very very good, offense but it's gonna be

855
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 1: really tough to predict week to. Week probably best ball

856
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: only outside Of nicks In, Courtland sutton and Hopefully Harvey

857
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: dropps BECAUSE i have. HIM i THINK rb twenty. Nine

858
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: So I'm i'm a little bit. MORE i just think

859
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: you have to account For dobbins and the fact that

860
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 1: he could be more or of a sprolls.

861
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 3: Archetype, yeah, YEAH i, Agree and you have to consider

862
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 3: the running box are going in this. Range It's Alvin,

863
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 3: kamara who you obviously, Like James, CONNOR i like so

864
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 3: two vets that you, know they're not sexy, picks but

865
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 3: they're dependable as long as they're. Healthy and Then Trevon

866
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 3: henderson you can get After. HARVEY i Guy David montgomery

867
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 3: is right in that. Range so, yeah there's there's backs

868
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: with you, know maybe a little more stable floor end

869
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 3: ceiling than Even. Harvey's SO i got the you, know the,

870
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 3: hype the landing spot and. Everything but, yeah the more

871
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,919
Speaker 3: you look at this depth, chart the more it could

872
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 3: just be you, KNOW i wouldn't say a hot hand,

873
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 3: approach but every week could be a little bit different

874
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 3: than the, next which is you never want that when

875
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 3: you have a running back especially if you're taking him

876
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 3: as like AN rb. Two you don't want this much.

877
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 3: Uncertainty so, Yeah i'm a little bit bearish On harvey right.

878
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: Now and the fact that.

879
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: You have.

880
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: You took another receiver on day two And Pat bryant

881
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 1: And Troy franklin reported we're having a much better camp

882
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: and already has that. Chemistry now you're looking at a

883
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: situation Where Marvin mims may end up being more of

884
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: a backfield guy this, year because remember that stretch where

885
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 1: what was he getting like four or five backfield rush

886
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 1: carries at one point in the. Season so that's something

887
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: you have to factor into Because i'm pretty sure that's

888
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: What Sean payton is going for this. Year he, wants you,

889
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: know big, bodied contested catch guys at receiver and then

890
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: chess pieces are like at the other, positions like you,

891
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 1: know tight, end the you, know the backfield and. Whatnot

892
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: so everything he's kind of done is kind of suggested as.

893
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: Much so, yeah and THEN i mean you would you

894
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:50,439
Speaker 1: would have to think that If estimate Or dobbins makes

895
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: the final, roster they could be the number one goal

896
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: line back, too WHICH i Mean harvey could just Be.

897
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 2: Kamara but you could just Get kamara in that, range

898
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: you know WHAT i.

899
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: Mean, so, yeah it's tough BECAUSE i really did like,

900
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: him but every like basketball drafter just scooped him, up

901
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: AND i think we have to hope is HIS adp?

902
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: False yeh can this. City i'll ask you a similar.

903
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: Question would you Rather Patrick mahomes as YOUR qb one

904
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: Or Travis kelcey as your tight end?

905
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: One? Oh, man that's a tough.

906
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 3: ONE i mean, THERE i both have them ranked. Similarly

907
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 3: i'm gonna. Go i'm gonna go With.

908
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: Mahomes, YEAH i think IT'S i don't want to it's.

909
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: CLOSE i, MEAN i just think there's it's all upside With.

910
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: Mahomes he's had just just tumultuous the last few years

911
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: where his receivers have been hurt the league adjusted with

912
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: the two high shelves to his deep, passes And kelsey

913
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 1: just hold like he's kind of like an honorary member

914
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: of the team at this. Point they're just gonna at

915
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: any point they could end u bubble wrapping him to the,

916
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: playoffs although they seemed like They Noah, GRAY i don't

917
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 1: know what was going on with that last last but

918
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: you were betting his unders every. WEEK i, think, yeah

919
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: that was, concerning.

920
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 2: Yeah which you, KNOW i, thought why would they be doing?

921
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: That BUT i was still betting on his.

922
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: Unders but, YEAH i THINK i think this year they

923
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 3: would have to scale Back kelsey's snaps at some, point.

924
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 2: And they.

925
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 3: Drafted they drafted another tight end, too, right so might

926
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 3: have more bodies that they could throw out. There but,

927
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 3: yeah it's so weird Seeing kelsey not right number.

928
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 1: One thought LAST.

929
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 3: I definitely did last, year WHILEY i thought it was

930
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 3: like the long term, plan they. DIDN'T i Think i'm

931
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 3: just Thinking Wiley wiley was sort of like potential Host kelsey.

932
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 3: Pick but, yeah it's, again it's just so weird not

933
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 3: Seeing kelsey ranked number.

934
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 2: One but that's for a.

935
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 3: Reason just last year he just didn't Have he only

936
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 3: scored what four, touchdowns but just wasn't as good after the.

937
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: Catch so he is in sharp.

938
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 3: Decline and we'll talk about receivers WHEN i bring up my.

939
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 3: Question but, yeah, YEAH i think Definitely mahomes has more

940
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 3: upside because the past catchers other Than kelsey are all

941
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 3: in the. Upswing SO i think that could Help mahomes

942
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 3: in terms, of you, know more explosive plays and things like,

943
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 3: that so, yeah give Me holmes Over.

944
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: Kelsey, yeah they're talking about throwing the ball downfield, again

945
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: right if you're if guys are healthy and in free

946
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: of their legal, wordes which big, If but if they,

947
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: are you would have a starting group Of, Rashi, Rice

948
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: Xavier worthy And Marquise brown With juju as your number

949
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: four And.

950
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 2: Jay royals in.

951
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: There. There that's who they, drafted that wide, receiver but

952
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: you know he's he's got some. Promise and then you

953
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 1: also drafted a running back with some juice And. Smith

954
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: so it seems like they want to kind of get

955
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: back to being creative in the passing, game creating easy

956
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: looks For.

957
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 2: Mahomes but they AND i thought they got.

958
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: They got better at that quick game too last, year

959
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: especially When Marquise brown came. Back so, YEAH i Think

960
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: mahomes he could end up going back to The mahomes

961
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: of old.

962
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 2: And kelsey still.

963
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: There Noah gray is still a great tight end, Too

964
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: so we have.

965
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 2: Love love Love.

966
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: Mahomes kelsey could be, concerning BUT i will say it

967
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: IS i might IF i might end up Betting kelsey

968
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: to lead the league in receiving touchdowns BECAUSE i could

969
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: see a situation where like think about The. Chiefs they

970
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: could they have every base, cover but you know in

971
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: the red, Zone andyreek kind of do what.

972
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 2: He wants and scheme whoever the, Ball but they don't.

973
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 1: Really have that many prototypical. Guys like remember last, POSTSEASON

974
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: i was betting on Like juju and guys to score

975
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 1: touchdowns and worthy every because like they don't really have touchdown.

976
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: Scorers that's the one thing they. Lacked SO i could

977
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 1: See kelsey setting like career low in all his volume

978
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: stats across the, board but catching like fifteen touchdowns Because

979
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: Andy reid just make sure he gets won every single.

980
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 2: Game that kind of thing playing, Out he's gonna be

981
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 2: Like Jody fortson on.

982
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: Steroids Did jody forts did ever actually catch a?

983
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: TOUCHDOWN i thought he, did know he. Did he might.

984
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 3: HAVE i think he came five catches for five. TOUCHDOWNS

985
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 3: i think that was his official stat.

986
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: Line oh my, God what's who's the blinds guy that

987
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 1: used to do The Pedigrew Brandon? Pettigrew, no, no, no not.

988
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: Him there was another guy who was the guy that

989
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: he would only catch. Touchdowns was It pedigrew or was

990
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: there another guy with the year or year two where

991
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: he just caught like twelve balls and like eight of

992
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,959
Speaker 1: them were touchdowns or something like, that and he always did.

993
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 3: Like, YEAH i THINK i think it WAS i think

994
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 3: it Was, pedigrew BUT i, Okay i've had this discussion

995
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 3: before and THEN i think it turned out to be

996
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 3: somebody that we blanked. On Jody ford's has four touchdowns

997
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 3: on fifteen career.

998
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: Receptions oh, wow any of the POST i don't, know

999
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: all in the regular.

1000
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 2: All in the regular, Season.

1001
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah Because i'm pretty SURE i definitely bet him to

1002
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: score in the. Postseason it never it never has. Cash

1003
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 1: But Joseph, fourier that was the tight END i was thinking.

1004
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: OF i Think pettigrew was the Starter fourier at this

1005
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: one season where he caught like every catch was a

1006
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: touchdown and then you could do a. Dance AND i

1007
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: think he washed out of the league like a year.

1008
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: Later but, yeah seven touchdowns on Eighteen, no not not

1009
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: to that, extreme BUT i, mean if anyone can scheme

1010
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: up a touchdown for a specific, guy It's Andy, Reid

1011
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: Patrick mahomes And. Kelsey that's where he can do his

1012
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: work because we know that the rest of the squad

1013
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: is going to eat between the. Twenties but what are

1014
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: you what are you kind of looking at for the

1015
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: chiefs head.

1016
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 3: Into, yeah let's let's talk about the, receivers specifically the

1017
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 3: top two. Guys this isn't like The titans Where i'm

1018
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 3: going to make you talk, about you, know the. Garbage

1019
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 3: would you would you rather have her Sheet rice at

1020
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 3: wide receiver twelve Or Xavier worthy at wide receiver twenty?

1021
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: Four?

1022
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: Worthy But i'm down On i'm lower Than i'm thinking

1023
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: census on both of.

1024
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 3: Those oh, REALLY i was going to say none of

1025
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 3: the above or all the above is also not none of,

1026
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 3: them none of You, okay, mahomes. Mahmes we just get

1027
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 3: them all when you when you get take, mahomes you

1028
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 3: get them. All that kind of exactly. Processed, YEAH i mean.

1029
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 1: It's really tough to, project AND i think there's warning

1030
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: signs for each of. Them you, Know rice has a

1031
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: very limited but specific route, tree but with everyone else,

1032
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: healthy he could see a little bit of a dip.

1033
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 1: Too and Then worthy really didn't pop off at two

1034
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: later in the year when you, know everyone else was,

1035
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: Out AND i just don't think he's going to be

1036
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: able to match that same usage With rice And brown

1037
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: healthy and you're also talking about potentially using your running

1038
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: back in the pass game or If smith ends, up you,

1039
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: know breaking into the, rotation which they it sounds like

1040
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: they already have a role for. Him so, yeah just

1041
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: a lot of mouse to. FEED i Prefer, mahomes but you,

1042
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: Know rice keeps rising up. BOARDS i Think worthy is

1043
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: kind of being drafted as if like it's the end

1044
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: of last year And brown's only playing a few snaps

1045
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: And rice is.

1046
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 2: Out so.

1047
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to get either of these guys AT.

1048
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: Adp So i'm kind of settling For mahomes and hoping

1049
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: we get back to the.

1050
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 2: Mahomes, old what do? You what do?

1051
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: You what's what's the.

1052
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 2: View on this?

1053
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 1: Rotation cause you know you've got a factor In juju

1054
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: for his forty? Percent, yeah well, yeah So i'm with.

1055
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: YOU i WOULD i would Go worthy.

1056
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,479
Speaker 3: There it's almost, like, uh well it looks Like rice

1057
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 3: won't be facing any legal issues this, year and and

1058
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 3: it's almost like THE adp thought that that wasn't already

1059
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 3: being factored. In so his HIS ADPs has been skyrocketing,

1060
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 3: lately WHICH i think is just too.

1061
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 2: Much LIKE i have him wide receiver.

1062
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 3: EIGHTEEN i think that's a fair price for, him AND

1063
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 3: i could see how you'd be, excited but you, Know

1064
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 3: worthy is there, now so he's going to have to

1065
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 3: compete with. Him and to your, point he did look

1066
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 3: way better at the end of the, season BUT i,

1067
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 3: thought you, know that was going to be his path

1068
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 3: as a, rookie like he was going to start off

1069
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 3: a little bit.

1070
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 2: Raw BUT i liked WHAT i saw at the end

1071
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 2: of the.

1072
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 3: Season SO i think also at the end of the,

1073
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 3: day you, know With kelsey's, decline there is more opportunity

1074
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 3: for the, receivers SO i think they're, gonna you, know

1075
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 3: definitely get the, yardage but they have limited touch on,

1076
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,959
Speaker 3: upside especially if you're, right and they're just gonna Wheel

1077
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 3: kelsey out there for red zone situations and you, know

1078
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 3: throw to. Him BUT i do think their upside is.

1079
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 3: Limited so at the end of the, DAY i think

1080
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 3: this is great news for Ma homes because we just

1081
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 3: haven't seen as explosive passing attack the past couple of.

1082
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 3: Seasons SO i think this is all great news for.

1083
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 3: Mahomes but it's gonna be a little bit more spread,

1084
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 3: out kind of like you, know The bills last, Season

1085
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 3: so it's gonna be hard to pinpoint anybody offering, value

1086
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 3: but all of these TWO i think worthy definitely at

1087
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 3: that price. Point wide receiver twenty four he offers enough

1088
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 3: upside to definitely take at spots as a you, know

1089
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 3: a low end wide receiver.

1090
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: Two, YEAH i, MEAN i just think you got to

1091
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: kind of go back and look at certain things in.

1092
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: Fantasy it's it's it's it goes beyond the players, themselves

1093
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: and you have to look at it from the organizational,

1094
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: standpoint which is why we're doing this. Podcast and we

1095
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: just we just know better than to put all our

1096
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: chips In chiefs wide receiver, baskets like you take the cheap.

1097
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: Guy it's like The shanahan handcuff, situation or like the

1098
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: McVay rookie fade is you know WHAT i, mean or

1099
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: rookie running back. FADE i, say it's we've seen this

1100
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: up in time and time, again where all like all

1101
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 1: of The chiefs wide receivers could be. Overvalued but right,

1102
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: now the guy that's not really costing anything Is. Mark he's,

1103
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: Brown So i'm just gonna take him and if he

1104
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: rises and those guys come down to more palatable ADP's

1105
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: in a lot with my, rankings SO i have word

1106
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: AROUND i think a little lower than, that and And

1107
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: rice in the mid to high. Teens, uh then Then

1108
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: i'll kind of buy back. In BUT i, mean nightmares

1109
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: If Canarius tony and Sky moore AN mbs and, this

1110
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: and it's Like Justin watson is the, guy you know

1111
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: WHAT i? Mean so it's not it's not right Off

1112
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: juju who they really still, like and he might he

1113
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: already had like like two, careers like he was like a,

1114
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: superstar then he was washed and now he's having like

1115
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: a secon whole second resurgence and he started to emerge, again.

1116
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,439
Speaker 2: Still, young and he's still only like twenty.

1117
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: Seven, yeah, exactly so don't sleep on. Him and then

1118
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: and then they drafted a wide out and you know

1119
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna find a way to get a couple of

1120
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: games in For Justin ross and Sky.

1121
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 2: Moore so AND i was, joking do you know how

1122
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 2: Old juju really? Is far? Off?

1123
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, NO i Mean Matthew, Freeman that's why he

1124
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: was so high on, him because he's so like when

1125
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: guys break out that, young that's a big indicator of career.

1126
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: Success but it was almost Like Antonio brown is just

1127
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: such an outlier THAT i think that really kind of

1128
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: helped in it in him breaking out and having that monster.

1129
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: Year but he's still a valuable piece of this wide receiver.

1130
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: Rotation he's their best blocker at wide. Receiver and remember

1131
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: they have a bunch of these, like you, know faster speed,

1132
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: guys smaller types over the, middle slat inside. Guys so he's,

1133
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: blocking he's gonna be on the field quite a. Bit

1134
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: and then If royal's also breaks out as a, rookie

1135
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: it could be tough to predict from week to week

1136
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: With rice is still a, beast but a lot of him.

1137
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: Worthy it's all schemes. Stuff so that's That's Andy reid

1138
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: could do whatever the hell he wants with. That so

1139
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: that's why it's all About it's all About patty this.

1140
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: Year uh, yeah how do we not talk About? Pacheco

1141
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: But i'm out On Pacheco if anyone, CARES i.

1142
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 2: Was, Going, yeah it's LIKE i like to just see

1143
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 2: what he looks like because he. Did oh he already

1144
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 2: looks the. Same, No, No i'm saying LIKE i would.

1145
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: Too but that's kind of, like what is what is

1146
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: his real upside this?

1147
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 2: Year?

1148
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: Though because he's not a pass catching. Back they have

1149
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: a full compliment and he's not really a great goal

1150
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: on guy. Either so, yeah it's the fact that they

1151
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: Brought hump back in and uh And mitchell and draft The.

1152
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: SMITH i think writing's on the. Wall he's one of

1153
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: those guys Like i'm just.

1154
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 2: Again we we know.

1155
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: This we learned this With Edwards laire And Damian williams

1156
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: and who was the guy before that With Sewing shadey, McCool,

1157
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: like we know this about The chiefs. Backfield and so

1158
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: the definition of crazy is you keep reaching for the same.

1159
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 2: Thing i'm out all the way out ON Ip.

1160
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: Fantasy flex, Listeners we've got some very exciting news this.

1161
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: Year we're gonna do a Live Fantasy flex event On

1162
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:27,800
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1163
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,440
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1164
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:37,000
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1165
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,280
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1166
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: to be a really dope. Atmosphere so hoping to meet

1167
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: as many of you guys as we can come. Through

1168
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,720
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1169
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,520
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1170
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: on The Fantasy Flex podcast in the coming, weeks so

1171
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 1: be sure to keep it locked. Again That, Saturday august twenty,

1172
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: Third joe's On Weed street in The shy or The

1173
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: Fantasy Flex live event of twenty twenty. Five sean sounds

1174
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: like it's gonna.

1175
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 2: Be a be real lit.

1176
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, Yeah i'm pumped for. This these live events

1177
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 3: are always a. Blast it's always fun getting in to

1178
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 3: connect with everyone in. Person and we're gonna have a

1179
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 3: full slate of preseason games that, day so it's my

1180
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 3: favorite time of year as. Well but, yeah we should

1181
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 3: be able to watch some of those games. Together it's

1182
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 3: gonna be a.

1183
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 2: Blast.

1184
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: Yeah excited to meet you guys. Again that Is, Saturday

1185
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: august twenty. Third make sure you save the date if

1186
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: you're going to be in The chicago. Area all, Right,

1187
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: Raiders i'm in on genty. Though is you think OF

1188
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: adp is too? Rich we talked about it On The

1189
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: favorites With Simon hunter And Chad. Milman simon's on GENT

1190
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: i mean McCaffrey goes ahead of. Him AM i crazy

1191
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: to think genty might be a, safer better pick just

1192
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: given the age and Where, No, NO.

1193
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 3: I think that's a good. POINT i THINK rb five

1194
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 3: is perfect for. Him so the market's pretty sharp on.

1195
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 3: This this is this is where he should. Go but,

1196
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 3: yeah he's probably a safer bet than McCaffrey at this

1197
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 3: point in his. Career and running, BACKS i mean they're

1198
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 3: in their prime right, away like earlier in their, Career

1199
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 3: so we're probably gonna Get gent's prime yeers right off the.

1200
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 3: Rip AND i love that he's playing For Pete. Carroll he,

1201
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 3: has you, know zero competition in the running back, room so,

1202
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 3: yeah he's going to be a true workhorse back mixinggan

1203
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 3: in the passing game as. Well he's not like a

1204
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 3: rookie running back where we don't know if he's going

1205
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 3: to be in you, know for passing.

1206
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 2: Situations he will.

1207
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 3: Be so, YEAH i think again the first round you're

1208
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 3: just or second round you're just trying to avoid, disaster

1209
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 3: AND i don't think he provides. THAT i think he

1210
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 3: has a high floor in high ceiling right away as a.

1211
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 3: Rookie so, YEAH i have HIM rb five AND i

1212
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 3: would absolutely take him there WHENEVER i.

1213
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: Can, yeah and actually AGAIN i think third down has

1214
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 1: kind of. Changed so when you say passing, situations, LIKE

1215
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: i think they did Get moster to play on third,

1216
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: downs but just to you, know throw his body at

1217
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: an oncoming linebacker who's Blitzing Geno.

1218
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 3: Smith second and, Seven Gino smith drop back to Pass

1219
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 3: genti's running a.

1220
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 2: Route that's WHAT i mean by. That.

1221
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 3: Yep, yeah not third, out third and. Ten that's when

1222
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 3: you know most are out there just to. Block there's

1223
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 3: no reason to throw it to the running back unless

1224
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 3: he's running a wheel. Route so, Yeah mouser will be

1225
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 3: taking the carries that we don't even Want genty having.

1226
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 3: Anyway so, yeah he's just gonna be a workhorse back

1227
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 3: in your.

1228
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 1: One AND i know you were making fun of, him

1229
01:03:55,360 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 1: but And sheer McCormick is kind of The Trey benson

1230
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: of Will shipley's or something. Like he's like that he

1231
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: has he has massive upside because most OF i don't

1232
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: think would get the future. Work and then the other

1233
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: backs on the roster Are Dylan lobby And Chris. Collier

1234
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: collier is like a special team's only, guy And lobby

1235
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: bumbled that just pretty much never played. Again now it

1236
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 1: is a new coaching, regime BUT i, mean that's. All

1237
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: it's also a new coaching.

1238
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 3: Regime so, well they ran out of running backs And

1239
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 3: lobby still didn't, play so that was a bad.

1240
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 2: Sign, yes oh my, goodness where's The Mere white these?

1241
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 2: Days is he? There? No he's Still oh, yeah no he's,

1242
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 2: yeah he's still. There now the hell was? It that

1243
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 2: has just like a career? Game oh Mirror? Abdullah yeah he's. Not,

1244
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 2: yeah damn.

1245
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: It.

1246
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 3: Yeah they had him And madison last, year so uh,

1247
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 3: yeah much much easier team to.

1248
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 2: Project they need like a Rex Burg. Hid no they, Don't,

1249
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 2: no they.

1250
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: Don't but, no BUT i Mean sincere would? You would

1251
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: you agree that since here has a chance to be the,

1252
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: handcuff even If most is like the passing down. SPECIALIST i,

1253
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: mean at this, AGE i feel like McCormick short enough

1254
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: to be an early down direct, backup early down.

1255
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 3: Guy yeahsts, yeah most SERTs thirty three years, old so

1256
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 3: not much left in the. Tank definitely like a good

1257
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 3: veteran to have in certain packages and stuff like. That

1258
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 3: but If god forbid gent miss his, TIME i think, McCormick,

1259
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 3: yeah he showed enough last, year they would probably turn him.

1260
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 3: MITE i, Mean Savere white still is a talented, back

1261
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 3: so we'll. See but, yeah, McCormick that was just a

1262
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 3: shot At chad trying to get on. McCormick i think

1263
01:05:56,720 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 3: it was like McCormick one and a half or seventions

1264
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 3: he was asking if that was a good play one

1265
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 3: way or the. Other but, YEAH i think McCormick could

1266
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 3: be the handcuff if genty misses.

1267
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: Time you Think Zamra white is a talent, back YOU

1268
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: i think you think there are ninety six more talented

1269
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 1: running backs in the league.

1270
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 3: Right now than let, me he had talent coming in THE.

1271
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 3: Nfl he was drafted in the fourth round for a.

1272
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 3: Reason he hasn't really shown. Much although was it twenty

1273
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 3: twenty three he did you, know might have had one

1274
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 3: hundred yard? Game, yeah it was it was it that

1275
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 3: The Josh weick was it was that With josh.

1276
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: McDaniels did he have like, that because, yeah it was like, yeah,

1277
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: Yeah josh mcdanni's just does that to running back. Sometime

1278
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: Garrett Boss, Uh dan was Like Janah gray like, YEAH

1279
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 1: i feel like you guys that week.

1280
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 2: Sixteen uh that's why this guy is my hero. Aight.

1281
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 3: O'Connell he has the weirdest box. Scores that was the

1282
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 3: game he threw for sixty two. Yards they had a

1283
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 3: O'Connell also led them to that zero to three overtime.

1284
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 2: Game, again it was like tiede zero zero.

1285
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 3: At the end of that was and then tough, watch

1286
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 3: and then they had The thursday football game where they

1287
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 3: won like seventy two.

1288
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: To, yeah it was it like a week after two

1289
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: or something. Like it. Was it was short obsession talk about.

1290
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: That it.

1291
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 3: Was, yeah the exact next week they won sixty three

1292
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 3: to twenty, one.

1293
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: Zero percent owned found zero started at least In yahoo leagues.

1294
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 3: Every, Yeh, yeah just a O'Connell. Experience pour one out

1295
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 3: for an. O'Connell i think. THAT i think that's. It

1296
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 3: last year might have been it for.

1297
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 2: Him wait is he not on the roster? Anymore? NO i, mean,

1298
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 2: well you Know.

1299
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:50,479
Speaker 3: Gino smith is for sure the starting. Quarterback yeah but still, okay,

1300
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:52,959
Speaker 3: YEAH aoc is still the back drop.

1301
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 2: But, recently but, YEAH aoc should be the.

1302
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 3: Backup he's still. There we might we might get some

1303
01:07:58,080 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 3: PATENTED aoc games one where the.

1304
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 2: Other so.

1305
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: Didn't Nick foles blow up under Chip, kevich wasn't?

1306
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 2: That? Yeah that?

1307
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: Was? Yeah, yeah so is Nick, Foles.

1308
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 2: No Nick.

1309
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: Foles remember that Year Nick foles just had like an

1310
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 1: absolutely ridiculous. Year you had like a seven touchdown. Game,

1311
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 1: yeah Under, Yeah like that's THAT'S aoc this, year do you?

1312
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: Know do you know like get banged, up uh gesturing

1313
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: out of bounds to the opposing sideline and bang his

1314
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 1: finger on somebody's, Helmet he'll miss five, WEEKS aoc will

1315
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: start and just go completely eight.

1316
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 2: Ship just When deep bombs To Thornton, Tucker oh, My

1317
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 2: i'm getting.

1318
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 3: Excited over, here just WHEN i THOUGHT i was out

1319
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 3: ON aoc Or, britt you're pulling me right back.

1320
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 2: In, yeah, baby yeah.

1321
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 1: Baby but you do have a very interesting question about The,

1322
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 1: raiders so shoot, yeah.

1323
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah so this is a little bit different than The

1324
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 3: titans Of, LIKE i guess who the hell cares who's

1325
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 3: going to be the number two? Receiver The raiders are.

1326
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 3: DIFFERENT i think this. Matters so who do you think

1327
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 3: is gonna step? Up you know we're gonna Say Jacobey

1328
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 3: myers is the wide? Receiver one who's gonna step up

1329
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 3: to be the number two wide receiver in this?

1330
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 2: Offense this?

1331
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: Year IT'S i think it's Between thornton And, tucker And

1332
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 1: i'm Gonna i'm gonna, Say i'm gonna say it's gonna

1333
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 1: Be thornton Because Chip kelly Remember Riley, cooper remember that

1334
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 1: SAY i think the same. Years, yeah that start just

1335
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: like a guy nobody, expects just bigger body, guy probably

1336
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 1: gonna YO x receiver knowing everyone's just expecting wind sprints

1337
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: and you look up and he might have five. Touchdown

1338
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: he might be he might be the New Alek. Peers Trey. Tucker,

1339
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,440
Speaker 1: ALSO i WAS i Like, Besch.

1340
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 2: Yeah the.

1341
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 1: ROOKIE i like his, Film but he's one of those

1342
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:57,560
Speaker 1: guys where it's it's like you don't know, exactly like like,

1343
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: athletically it's you, know it's touch and. Go so he's

1344
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 1: a guy that you, know it might not translate. Fully

1345
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 1: and from What i've been hearing in, Camp thornton's running

1346
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 1: with the starters as THE, x and then they're Moving

1347
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: myers into a lot more slot duties and three wide

1348
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: and then Your tucker is still the other the other.

1349
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 1: Receiver Remember tucker was on the field like ninety percent

1350
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 1: of the. Time guys like that don't usually just dip

1351
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 1: from ninety to like back. Up So I'm i'm gonna

1352
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: say THAT i have the starting three projected right now As, Myers, Tucker,

1353
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 1: thornton And thornton would be your best ball big play

1354
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: mbs Alet, Pearce is that is that kind of how

1355
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: you have it?

1356
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,600
Speaker 3: Too did you have you been Lowering beck that's a

1357
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 3: bit OR i KNOW i. Have, Yeah besh is interesting

1358
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i like him as a, player like he's you,

1359
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 3: know solid all around. Player he was a former tight, end,

1360
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 3: uh and he's gonna win you, know like underneath routs

1361
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 3: and things like. That but they already Have brock powers,

1362
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 3: there so, uh there's a little too much overlap for

1363
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 3: him to really pop With bowers there and you Know Jacoby.

1364
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 3: Myers SO i, think, yeah the guy that can really

1365
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 3: blow the lid off the defense would Be. THORNTON i

1366
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 3: think that would be a good. Combo if Like gent's

1367
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 3: cooking the run games cooking and you have like play

1368
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 3: action options throwing it deep To thornton, downfield that can

1369
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 3: make a ton of. Sense so just the way this

1370
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 3: is setting, Up i'm not as high I'm besh now

1371
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 3: That i've been able to project things and lay it.

1372
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 3: Out so but they have you, know solid receivers and

1373
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 3: you Know Trede tucker's STILL i know he's are Called

1374
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 3: Nick giffin's favorite receiver.

1375
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 2: WHEN.

1376
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 1: Aoc yeah, yeah but you can give him those but, yeah,

1377
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 1: yeah you, know trade Trade tucker is still in the.

1378
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 3: Mix so they just you, know they have a solid

1379
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 3: depth chart in my, opinion out. Receiver but the one

1380
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 3: THING I i didn't, ask but one of the training,

1381
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 3: questions training camp, QUESTIONS i, have what are what's started

1382
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,600
Speaker 3: playing with Like Michael mayer because he was you, know

1383
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 3: potentially the first tight END uh in twenty twenty threes draft.

1384
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 3: Class so they still have, Him like is he gonna

1385
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 3: get traded? Somewhere like it's a mystery what their plan

1386
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 3: is With, mayor but he would be solid if he

1387
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 3: would be traded anywhere that needed a tight. End he's

1388
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,679
Speaker 3: the guy That i'd be interested, in but just curious

1389
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 3: to see what their long term plan was with. Him

1390
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 3: now that you know Brock bauers is one of the

1391
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 3: best tight ends in the, LEAGUE i Think mayor would

1392
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 3: just kind of.

1393
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: Be that you, know standard in, line more, inline classic

1394
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: tight end because Remember ballards is a glorified slot receiver

1395
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 1: right when when they're in two, Wide Jakobe myers will

1396
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 1: probably kick out side And thornton Or tucker or, yeah

1397
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 1: probably one of those two guys will probably we play

1398
01:12:56,160 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 1: on the perimeter Opposite, myers and Then hours will be

1399
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 1: your slat And mayor will be your tight ends or

1400
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,640
Speaker 1: your in line. Guys SO i think he'll still Get

1401
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 1: it's kind of like co, comet like there's still a

1402
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: lot of options to play him because tight ends these

1403
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 1: days are just glorified slot. Receiver it's like it's like In,

1404
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 1: pittsburgh Like Jonas smith could just essentially be their slot

1405
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 1: receiver and Fire booth will be their inline, guy and

1406
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:22,640
Speaker 1: and that's how they'll kind of roll with. That so,

1407
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 1: uh it's not like it used to be back in

1408
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 1: the day where you only had like room for one

1409
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 1: and that that WAS i should have BEEN i should

1410
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 1: have been ahead of that last. YEAR i did not

1411
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 1: regrettably get enough Of Rock bauers last. Season AND i,

1412
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 1: mean THANKFULLY i still did okay at tennand BECAUSE i

1413
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 1: was all over Like art and guys like. That but,

1414
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 1: yeah it's that was a tough one to be underweight

1415
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: on on him because Of, mayor so not making that mistake,

1416
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 1: again BUT i, think, YEAH i think he in terms

1417
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: of like pass, catching he'll probably be the man out

1418
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 1: him IN. Besh but, Yeah thornton and best ball is.

1419
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 1: INTRIGUING i got a ton of him when that first

1420
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: report came out that he was running with the. Starters

1421
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 1: SO i have some like geno stacks with With thornton

1422
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 1: and one of the other, Guys so hopefully those can can.

1423
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 1: Hit MAYBE i should go with SOME aoc stacks after

1424
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: talking to you here we go wrong with, those all,

1425
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 1: Right so, chargers here's an interesting. One Trey, harris, Rookie

1426
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: Quentin johnston head into you as that year three and

1427
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 1: Then Mike williams already on the pump Classic Mike. Williams,

1428
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 1: uh they need to they need to Acquire Keenan allen

1429
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:37,679
Speaker 1: so he can.

1430
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 2: Land ON I r. Two but uh can is? He

1431
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 2: he's just hanging.

1432
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,560
Speaker 1: Out he's a, proud proud man that is probably not

1433
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 1: getting the contract offers he, desires or he's just chowing.

1434
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 1: It does not want to be a part of camp after,

1435
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 1: this or a mix of, both or a mix of.

1436
01:14:55,520 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 1: Both but my question for you is who who steps?

1437
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 1: Up we Love lad. McConkie i mean he talked about

1438
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 1: another guy who could be like a monraw type, Numbers lad,

1439
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 1: McConkie is. IT i think he's just an excellent receiver

1440
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 1: in all aspects and plays bigger than even his size

1441
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 1: at times. Too but they're gonna need AN x so

1442
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: they can Get johnston out of that role and and you,

1443
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:24,640
Speaker 1: know playing where he can move around and make the

1444
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:27,560
Speaker 1: most of his. Career, So Trey, harris what do you

1445
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 1: think Is Trey harris going to be that second to.

1446
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 2: Most valuable charger pass?

1447
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 1: Catcher will it Be johnston post hype or will it

1448
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 1: be one of the tight?

1449
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 2: Ends will it be?

1450
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 1: Nobody what say?

1451
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 2: You? YEAH i THINK i think it'll Be. HARRIS i

1452
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 2: don't know if he'll be right.

1453
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 3: AWAY i think they might Give Quintin johnson maybe another

1454
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 3: crack at, it but you, KNOW i Think harris will

1455
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 3: emerge as being the number, two, uh you, know wide

1456
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 3: receiver in this. Offense BUT i am a little bit.

1457
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:00,640
Speaker 3: CONCERNED i don't know what's going. On but the you,

1458
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 3: know the contract that The texans Gave Jayden higgins was fully,

1459
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 3: guaranteed which has never happened for a second round pick.

1460
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 3: Before so a lot of second, rounders Including Trey harris

1461
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 3: or falling. Suit so he hasn't signed. Yet if he

1462
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 3: starts missing you know a lot of, camp that's that's

1463
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 3: gonna be a. Setback So i'm gonna, be you, know

1464
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 3: watching that. Closely BUT i Like Trey. Harris he's he's

1465
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 3: gonna be a solid deep ball wide, receiver and anytime

1466
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 3: you have that With Justin, HERBERT i think that's a good.

1467
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 3: MIX i Think Justin herbert is an excellent downfield, passer

1468
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 3: SO i think he has a ton of upside in this.

1469
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 3: Offense with you, Know lam McConkie being the top, target

1470
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 3: it's going to open things up For Trey. Harris SO

1471
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 3: i think we've seen enough From Quentin johnson to know

1472
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 3: that just he's not at the ceiling end of what

1473
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 3: we thought his range of outcomes would. Be And Mike

1474
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 3: williams is already. Hurt SO i Think Trey harris would

1475
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 3: be the. Favorite it just might not be week, one

1476
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 3: BUT i think during the Season harris will emerges being

1477
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:00,080
Speaker 3: the number two target this.

1478
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 1: Offense, yeah this is WHY i love this time of

1479
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: year and in these type of conversations because you can

1480
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 1: kind of kind of kind of understand what teams were

1481
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 1: thinking and how they, planned what the reasons for were

1482
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: with certain, moves AND i think looking at, it looking

1483
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 1: at the failures Of johnston and looking at what they,

1484
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 1: have which is a guy In mconkee that best suited

1485
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 1: for the slot can move, outside but he's gonna play

1486
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 1: off the wine, Scrippage so you needed AN, x, Right

1487
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 1: So Mike williams is kind of like the backup choice

1488
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 1: AT X. JOHNSTON i think they moved TO z AND

1489
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 1: i Think harris is a starter from week, one AND

1490
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 1: i ACTUALLY i THINK i Favor harris even more Than,

1491
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 1: higgins just because of the fact That harris Unlike higgins

1492
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 1: and they're they're kind of the, same a little bit

1493
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 1: of the same. Mold But harris was a true man

1494
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 1: beater in. College he was a true press beater in,

1495
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:01,679
Speaker 1: college Whereas higgins played more Like. Ze even though long

1496
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 1: term he might BE uh AN. X he's gonna Play

1497
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 1: zee this year, too so it might be. Moved But

1498
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 1: harris AT, X i think is is going to unlock

1499
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 1: this passing. Game it's GONNA i think it could lead

1500
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 1: to just uh better all around, offense more third down,

1501
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:21,680
Speaker 1: conversions more play. Volume and the thing about it is

1502
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 1: WHAT i like to look at is they nailed that

1503
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:29,719
Speaker 1: A conkey, pick like absolutely nailed. It so the fact

1504
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 1: that they went out and drafted another, uh you, know

1505
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 1: receiver early in the draft and this is STILL i,

1506
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 1: mean this is A Greg roman. Offense so it's not

1507
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 1: like like receivers is always his top priority and they

1508
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 1: damn sure to have a good one that they got

1509
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 1: last year early in the. Draft so the fact that

1510
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 1: they went out and they Get hampton and then they

1511
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 1: Go harris and that's how they, feel that's what they

1512
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 1: felt they needed to, do uh for this. Team even

1513
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 1: THOUGH i think the, defense you, know it was very

1514
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 1: good at, times but it also was at, times and

1515
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 1: they went skill. Positions that tells me That harris is

1516
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 1: in their. Plans and the fact that they know that

1517
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 1: M conkie pick gives me a lot more optimism About.

1518
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 1: HARRIS i think he's a real great fit for what

1519
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 1: they do it AND i love the fact that and

1520
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 1: he can win to tested balls and, man so he

1521
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 1: could be like Remember Mike williams when he would just

1522
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 1: put up those monster numbers Alongside Keenan allen With Justin, Herbert,

1523
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 1: LIKE i think you could see that kind not the

1524
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 1: Rookie Mike williams mind, you BUT i think you could

1525
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:32,759
Speaker 1: see those kind of that kind of upside For. Harris

1526
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 1: so he's another guy with him and along With higgins

1527
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 1: That i'm getting a lot of love that range best

1528
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 1: just kind of the odd man. OUT i think he's

1529
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 1: the guy that's probably trending the wrong. Direction oh, right

1530
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 1: those those second. Rounders what are you looking at for

1531
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 1: This charger?

1532
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 3: Squad, yeah let's look at tight end because like they

1533
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 3: have three tight ends all within like five slots OF.

1534
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 3: Adp so right now it's tricky to draft him because

1535
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 3: we don't really know who's going to. Merge but curious

1536
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 3: to hear who you think will lead This chargers tight end.

1537
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 3: Room let's say receptions this. Year who do you think

1538
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 3: is going to be the lead tight end of this?

1539
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 2: Group?

1540
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 1: Mattlock how to get a full back reference in? There, Sometimes,

1541
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 1: yeah he's gonna be on The he's going to be

1542
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 1: on the. Field he GOT i think from WHAT i,

1543
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 1: hear all flow To matlock. PROP i have like a

1544
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 1: receptions rush attempts.

1545
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 3: A reception for the, season, yea like something like rushing.

1546
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,560
Speaker 3: Touchdown i'll have A mattlock prop for you off the.

1547
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 3: SIDE i think that's that's warrant at this point because

1548
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 3: the books won't give us. ONE i gotta Do James,

1549
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 3: PROCHE i gotta do something like.

1550
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 2: That but a. RASTER i don't know if he's on not.

1551
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 1: Anymore, yeah but, no he wasn't on The, titans, Right, no,

1552
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 1: no it would it would be fitting if he. Was

1553
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 1: oh my, god he's on The.

1554
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 2: Titans, oh he's on The. Titan he's on The.

1555
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 1: Titans add another one to the, list, Baby.

1556
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 2: All, right, well well i'll get over a half catch

1557
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 2: it like fifty to one.

1558
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 1: Odds but to answer your, question, YES i think the

1559
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 1: correct answer Is Tyler. Conklin BUT i am admittedly a bit,

1560
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 1: miffed AND i think any of the three. COULD i

1561
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 1: think the thing About gadsten is he's a very intriguing

1562
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 1: rookie and he has that. Talent so that's the GUY

1563
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 1: i Would i'm drafting if If i'm trying to take

1564
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:38,600
Speaker 1: a best Ball. Dart but he could just be The

1565
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 1: stone smart. Role, yeah because they also Signed, conklin AND

1566
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 1: i thought like Dis weely showed enough as a pass,

1567
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 1: catcher and but then from Everything i've been reading and

1568
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 1: hearing out Of charger, camp they Signed conklin to be

1569
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 1: the pass catcher so that this week can return to

1570
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 1: more of a blocking, role which does make sense because

1571
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 1: they did Have Hayden hurst as like a catch only

1572
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 1: tight end last. Year it just didn't work. Out SO

1573
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 1: i Guess i'm gonna Say. Conklin but in a year or,

1574
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:12,760
Speaker 1: TWO i would Think gadson would be the guy that

1575
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 1: if there's any value, here it's. Him but this year

1576
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be an un, sexy fright three three way.

1577
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 2: Committee what do you? Think, Yeah, UNFORTUNATELY i think you're right.

1578
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 3: There there was a two three weeks stretch last YEAR

1579
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 3: i was all excited over Will disley that fizzled out pretty.

1580
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 3: Quickly but the tight end position is something they definitely

1581
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 3: wanted to upgrade then offseason and heading into the, draft

1582
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 3: they were a, famous like popular landing spot for Like

1583
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 3: Tyler warren if he fell, there and the Like Holston

1584
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 3: lovelin was expected to be available, there so they didn't

1585
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 3: have a shot at either of those, guys so they

1586
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 3: had to punt tight end for a. Bit but you,

1587
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 3: know they Got Amaron, hampton which we didn't talk about

1588
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 3: the running backs, yet but that it's gonna be interesting

1589
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 3: to see like what's up With Naji harris and that,

1590
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 3: backfield how it sorts.

1591
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 2: Out that's that's probably more important for Fantasy Na.

1592
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: Terris Or Nazy Hassan Haskins. Terris which, One, WELL i don't,

1593
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 1: know It's, Hampton it's it's gonna be.

1594
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 3: Hampted obviously It's. Hampton, No but like If, nase LIKE

1595
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 3: i don't know the extent of his eye, injury but

1596
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 3: like that that's a concern if if you know he

1597
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 3: can't see out of one. Eyeball what is the.

1598
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 1: Proper protocol For like is it do you?

1599
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 2: Wear? Like is it? Goggles?

1600
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 1: Like what is the proper protocol so you don't murk

1601
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:37,560
Speaker 1: yourself with? Fire i've only Done i've only done the

1602
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 1: fire thing a couple of times as an, adult and

1603
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 1: luckily nothing's gone. Wrong but, yeah like there's got to

1604
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:44,679
Speaker 1: be something these guys are, missing.

1605
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:49,720
Speaker 3: Right, yes, uh, yeah it wouldn't hurt the protective eye,

1606
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 3: wear but anglets, anglets so it's not facing at you

1607
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:59,680
Speaker 3: because they're very. Unpredictable having a longer FUSE i think it.

1608
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 3: HELPED i think a lot of these, incidents like we

1609
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 3: had some plaster and The dodgers won The world, Series

1610
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 3: like if the fuse is, small that's where you have

1611
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 3: a lot of. Accidents you need a longer fuse to

1612
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 3: get the hell out of. There SO i don't know

1613
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 3: exactly what, happened but it's not good for a back

1614
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 3: that's been so, durable he's never missed the game entire,

1615
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 3: life and then and then he gets hurt like a

1616
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 3: stupid off the field.

1617
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 2: Incident so just. Sometime oh, yeah.

1618
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 1: That's that's all on the. Onrege you got to remember

1619
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 1: how in the entourage they would just Protect vinnie at.

1620
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,480
Speaker 1: All it's like you've got to treat.

1621
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 2: Your your your million dollar plus you, know.

1622
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 1: Multi million DOLLAR nfl in his prime running backs especially

1623
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 1: we have you, know shorter. Shelve so, LIKE i don't

1624
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 1: know who is who is letting him even get near

1625
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 1: those things to where he could get an eye. Injury

1626
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 1: both like that is somebody failed less unless he was,

1627
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 1: alone WHICH i haven't.

1628
01:24:58,920 --> 01:24:59,679
Speaker 2: Dug to be into.

1629
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 1: It So i'm not sure the, details but, man be

1630
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 1: safe out, there. Kids, Yeah so conklin on sexy, HOPE

1631
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,799
Speaker 1: i Think harris is the upside bet in this pass catching.

1632
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 1: Corpse but, look mcconkeye wide receiver won maybe even top

1633
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:21,720
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