WEBVTT - We Meet Anthony with Mario Cantone... (S3 E11 "Running with Scissors") 0:00:01.639 --> 0:00:01.800 Hi. 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:04.960 I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are you 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:11.080 a Charlotte. We are back for the second time with 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:14.640 Mario Cantone, which is so fantastic because this is your 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:16.080 first episode on the air. 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:18.560 It is it is? I always thought it was episode twelve, 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:20.599 but it's not. It's episode eleven. 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:22.360 I know, and it's called Running with Scissors. But I 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:24.080 think the reason you might have thought it was twelve 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:27.880 was because we shot two at once, as we always did, right, 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:32.120 because in my mind I remember the other Vera Wang 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:36.879 where the girls are there, like there's two Vera Wang visits, 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:38.440 but we shot them in one day. 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:42.479 Oh that's right. And I remember I came in at 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.159 three in the afternoon. Wow, And I was in. 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:48.000 An off Broadway show at the time. 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:50.680 Got it. Yeah, it was called The Crumple Zone and 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:53.120 it was ran for like six months of us. It 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:55.800 did really well, got great reviews. And I remember that 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:58.520 particular night was one of our tech nights. 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:00.880 Oh no, and they work to let me out. 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:02.960 And I was like, you can get someone else to 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:05.520 stand here while you, like for an evening because I'm 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:09.199 going definitely, And I went for sure. 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:12.280 So wait if you came in at three in the afternoon. 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:15.000 Maybe we don't you remember we filmed till four and 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:15.680 the fortnight. 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:19.319 I do remember that it was stressful and long, and 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:23.720 I remember that our our executive from HBO came and 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:27.000 sat across from us and glared at us. I mean, 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:29.280 not that it was our fault, but like, just let 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:32.640 it be known that we were over budget. Uh huh. Yeah, 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:34.280 it was one of those days. There's only a few 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:37.240 Michael Hill. Michael Hill came and I remember that because 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.039 I was like, oh, he never comes. Oh no, but 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:41.960 I think it was expensive to shoot him. 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.800 Vera Wang probably wasn't. It was so small, remember how 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:45.959 small it was tiny? 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:47.560 It was hard to film there. 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.520 Yeah. And also that evening was my husband's opening night 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.360 of an off Broadway show. He was in, Wow, It's 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:58.120 called Bubbly Black Girl sheds her Familion skin, and I did. 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:03.920 I couldn't go. Yeah no, but I remember, uh yeah, 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.920 we we we you we talked about this last time 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:09.200 and you didn't remember it. I'm sure you remember it 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:11.440 now because I told you last time. But there was 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:12.400 a second scene. 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:17.160 Oh I still I still only have the vaguus memory. 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:18.120 What was it? 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:18.520 It was? 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:22.200 It was us, you know where we were sitting and 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:23.360 looking at the dresses. 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:25.320 There was a little room. 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.360 In the in the back of that with the door. 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.640 Yeah. Yeah, we were in the dressing room and I 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:34.600 was fitting you and trying to cut something with the scissors, 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:35.799 and I ended up ripping the. 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:39.320 Dress, which is really interesting because it's running with scissors 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.040 is the title of this episode. 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:44.800 And we just glad you glared at me and I 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:47.000 was just like, oh and that was the end of 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:49.840 that scene. And that was the end of that Oh wow. 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:53.360 I don't know if that had stayed in If we had, 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.680 we would have come back and become friends. 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.639 I mean, I assume that they loved you so much 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:01.639 that they didn't want there to be a negative thing. 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:06.359 But maybe also feel this episode has so much plot 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:08.880 in it for everyone else, like really, it's. 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:12.360 A lot in the thing, and oh yeah, it's a lot. 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:15.400 It's so much that I feel, you know, there were times, 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:17.560 I mean, this has always been true for us. We 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.320 over overshoot, right, we always have too much, and then 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:22.560 we have taken shoot always. 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.359 Oh look, don't get me started on just like that. 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:28.880 There were two scenes of ours two this last season 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:32.560 that we're cut no way. Oh yes, remember the remember 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:37.400 the one in the in the the bakery, and it 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:40.720 was after the puppet thing, and I said to you, 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:42.800 I need to I need to talk about the puppet more. 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:45.560 And I was like, I was this old guy glaring 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:46.960 at him and you were like well and I was like, 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.240 don't look at me like that A great scene and 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.640 it got cut. Oh and then there was a scene 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:55.200 with the red rooster between me and you before I 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:58.760 apologized to carry Oh, yeah, was cut, which I was 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:00.400 furious about. 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.760 The bridge to me apologizing. 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.680 Right right right, I remember that. I remember that. But 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:09.040 we always overfilm. We always overfilm. And one time I 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:12.560 said to Michael Patrick, I said, couldn't we cut from 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:15.880 the read through so that we don't because we're always 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:19.200 just really basically killing ourselves to get everything filmed. Yeah, 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:21.599 and also we spend a lot of money getting everything filmed. 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:23.680 And he said no, because I don't know in the 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:24.839 edit what's going to work. 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:26.320 He doesn't, Yeah, he doesn't know. 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:29.599 But let me just say this about you. When I 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:32.320 watched this first episode, because obviously I hadn't watched this 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:34.279 episode in you know, thirty years or whatever it is, 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:38.360 twenty five years, you are just a breath of fresh air. 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:41.839 Like your energy. You're just like a blast of energy. 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:46.360 It's so refreshing and exciting, like you're a note that 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:49.279 we didn't have in the ensemble. Yeah, do you feel 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:49.960 that when you watch it? 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:50.360 Yeah? 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:50.640 Yeah. 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:53.840 When I watch it, I was like, wow, this, I mean, 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:56.920 it was just it's funny, it's good. I just it works, 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:01.400 and I don't know, I I feel that I was. 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:02.360 I'm happy with. 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:04.760 It when I walked definitely, right, I mean you're so 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.320 young also, like it's so funny to look at you 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:10.120 and me obviously do but I mean were little children. 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.320 I don't think I felt like a little child back then. 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:14.880 You mean you didn't, right, neither did I. We felt 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:16.279 like we were you know, I mean. 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:17.840 Adult, we were. You know, but. 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:22.720 That was two thousand. That was we filmed that ninety nine. 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:24.960 No, I think we filmed it in two thousand because 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.080 it's it near to August twentieth, so we would have 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:28.320 filmed it earlier in the summer. 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:30.800 You know. It brings up I was I was forty 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:31.360 years old. 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:35.599 No, you look like you're twenty or twenty five. 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:38.760 My god, it just turned sixty six last week. 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:41.440 Congradually, she said, like God, it was your birthday. 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:43.839 Sixty six, one more six and I'm the Sign of 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:45.039 the Devil. That's right. 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:50.280 Well, this is the thing I was thinking to when 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:54.080 I'm watching, because I remember that you used to always feel, 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.720 you know, you have like a nervousness about your work, 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:00.000 which is always kind of adorable. That still still remains, really, 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:04.440 but I remember this particular time because it was the beginning. 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:08.080 I mean, but you're you're so great. 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.839 Well, you know this is that you know, you're sitting 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:13.200 there and you're doing it for the crew, and the 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.400 crew is like hysterically laughing, and then the cameras go 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.719 on and they can't laugh. So in your psychological, crazy 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:24.760 comedic mind, my paranoid comedic mind, I'm like, well I'm 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:29.680 sucking now, Well I'm not funny. I left. I would 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:35.040 leave I remember. I think it was season four episode 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:37.200 I think it was one or two where we're walking 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.680 and the sailors. It's fleet week, you know. I remember 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:43.520 walking away from that scene and calling Michael, going, I 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:46.360 didn't I didn't. You didn't get it right? So would 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:48.800 I leave you? He was like, would I let you 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:52.960 off the set if I didn't get it? He would not, 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:55.479 And then you watch it and I'm like, Okay, he 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:55.920 got it. 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:58.480 Definitely, definitely, I do think too. There's a couple of 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:00.880 things I thought about. One was just like your energy 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:04.680 is so pure and great and different. And then the 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:07.359 other thing I realized is that you you didn't do 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:10.880 that many episodes of the first series, and I was 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:14.880 wondering for you, like did they so you did twelve total? 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:17.840 I'm reading my total, which is crazy. I would have 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:19.200 thought it was so much more than that. 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:20.960 A lot of people think that, yeah. 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.560 Yeah, and what how did they handle it? Like what 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:25.640 was your thinking? Did you think you were coming back? 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.320 Did you know you were coming back? How did it go? I? 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:30.720 Well, you know, I've known Michael Patrick King since I 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:32.400 was in my twenties doing stand up. 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:33.200 That's how I came. 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:35.080 Yeah, so he wrote me this. 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:37.000 I did go in as a formality to read. 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:39.480 And there was also that question of whether I was 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:41.400 going to be able to get out of that tech, 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.200 which I was like, I'm going, I'm doing this so 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:49.200 but I remember after it aired, I ran into him 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:51.200 and John Melphie in a restaurant and he said, do 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.800 you know how many do you know? The reaction we 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:56.720 got from you and how many you know, calls or 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:59.920 letters or whatever it was back then. And I said, 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.000 I don't know, but am I coming back? That you 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.560 absolutely are? I said, okay, but it was this is 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:09.080 what it was. It was one episode, season three, two 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:14.960 episodes Season four, Wow three episode season five, six episode 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:19.440 season six, and then then the and then both movies, 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:21.400 which kind of you know, cemented it. But I was, 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:23.400 you know, I was always on call, and I was 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:28.600 always so afraid that you know, of scheduling because they 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.280 called you last minute and if you you know, weren't available, 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:33.560 you know, this was not a good thing. So I 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:34.600 was horrified. You know. 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:36.360 Oh no, so you never really knew. 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:39.160 No, I didn't know when I knew I was coming back, right, 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:42.560 you know when? But it just the episodes grew as 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:45.880 the years went on, and I also, yeah, you just 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:50.400 and there were there were, you know, some Broadway shows 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:52.360 at the time that I that I did turn down, 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:55.200 not because of this but because no, believe me, it 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:59.280 worked out well, not because of this, but because of 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:02.520 negotiating and whatever. You know, Sometimes they want you for 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:04.200 a year and you're like, can I do six months? 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:06.559 Which I think is reasonable, and like, no, I'm like, okay, 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:11.680 goodbye so, and at that time they did. Even now, 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:13.800 if you're a middling name and you're not a name, 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:15.240 they don't let you out. 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:17.480 Broadway producers don't let you out. 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:20.920 And my experience to go do an episode of the show, 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:25.280 so you know that could have messed me up, you know, 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:26.199 totally with this. 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:30.720 Yeah, oh yeah, Well I appreciate that you were thinking 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:31.240 of us. 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:34.440 Oh I just love it. 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:36.080 Yes, we need you so much. 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:37.720 Miss it very much. 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:38.800 I miss it too. 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:42.960 I'm very sad about it, no, honestly, Like I mean, 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:44.600 people like, how are you like, I'm sad. 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:45.840 I'm sorry. 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:47.640 I just wanted one more season. 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:51.320 I agree, I absolutely wanted one more season two. 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:52.960 I don't care. I love them all, but I don't 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:56.720 care what anybody says this. That was not a series finale. 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:59.679 It was a season finale, but that wasn't a series finale. 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:03.160 Well, agree with you, baby, I agree with you. I 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:06.000 haven't watched it because I'm in denial and I would 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.520 like to remain that way. But I know what was 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:12.640 on the page, and I know that when we the 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:15.079 girls and I got together for dinner and we were like, wait, 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:18.160 what did we do and what did we do and 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:20.600 we couldn't really remember, which is not a good sign, 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:22.960 you know what I'm saying. So in my just so 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.600 you know, I this is not based on anything real. 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.319 In my mind, we're going to do something else. I 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:30.240 don't think it'll be a whole season, but I think 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:32.880 we will do something else. But obviously no one knows 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:37.080 who owns us right now, you know, So there's that 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.040 that's got to be worked out. And I don't think 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:42.320 Michael Michael. I saw Michael, and he I've seen it 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:44.440 a couple of times, so he didn't. He doesn't say that. 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:49.240 But I'm just in my in my hopeful way, you know, 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:50.080 going with that. 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:51.800 I like that too. 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.000 I like that too. I like that too. I mean, 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.800 I feel like we've been going for so long, you know, 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:01.640 why why finish? I know, right, I. 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:03.959 Know we're an expensive show, but we're worth it. 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.479 I think we're worth it too, darn it. 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:08.760 It's we're worth it. And it's a it's a it's 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:11.360 beautifully shot, it's it's a movie. I mean, it's like 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:13.480 there's no c G I or like that. 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:15.160 It's just all New York. 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.320 Is That's right, babe? That is right? 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:20.800 Studio sets or the beautiful locations of New York City 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:23.720 and that's and that's you know, so that's that's thrilling. 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:27.559 And then you've got these wonderful actresses and actors. 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:38.320 And yeah, I agree, I agree, I agree. 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:43.000 All right, let's talk about this episode. So I am 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:46.960 so totally every time I'm watching these episodes from this 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:50.160 section of season three, I knew in my mind that, like, 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.960 I love season three so much, it's my favorite season whatever, 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:57.320 but like, and I love the whole big Carrie you 0:11:57.360 --> 0:11:59.400 know thing, But there's so much I don't remember. It's 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:00.760 like I'm watching it for the first time. 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:02.440 It's a very strong season. 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:04.840 It's it's you know, not because it's when I came in, 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:07.000 but it's actually when I started watching it too that 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.640 I had to go back and then and then that 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:13.880 season is when it really kind of oh yeah. 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:17.920 And I don't remember anything, Like I don't remember that 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:21.640 Carrie and Bigger going to some CD hotel. Oh my gosh, 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.040 I remember that I run into the I don't remember 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:25.920 any of this. I don't know where the heck of 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:31.120 my mind was. Oh it is so sad, I do, like, 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:32.839 what are you doing in this neighborhood? 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:33.440 I know? 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:36.440 I know, and I mean it's also funny because is 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:38.400 there any part of town that they wouldn't be in? 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:39.840 Not really, you know what I mean. 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:44.520 But your reaction to it's your disappointment, really, Oh, your 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:47.880 disappointment in her. Okay, if you feel the way you're 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:49.720 saying is you're trying to be as polite as possible, 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:52.720 but you're letting her know that you're not happy about this. 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:58.480 You're disappointed in your because your moral character. Charlotte is like, 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:00.199 like you said, what if you know, what if that 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:00.720 happened to me? 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:04.040 Okay, I'm glad you feel that way, because I don't 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:05.960 love my work in this episode. I really don't. 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:07.600 You're nuts. You. 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:14.120 I like me when I'm with you, right, I know 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:16.400 it's true, it's true, But I mean a lot of 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:19.120 the times when I do look back, I'm like thrilled. Right, 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:22.080 but there's some hard things they have me do, like 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.880 that scene. Because Okay, So just to make sure we're 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:28.880 including our listeners. So this is the episode where Carrie 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:31.360 has slowly been telling the friends right like she first 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:33.400 told Samantha, because she knows Samantha is not going to 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.600 judge that she's having a fair with mea exactly. Then 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:39.040 she in this episode she tells Miranda, and that's a 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:40.679 great scene. We'll get to that in a second. But 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:42.920 then the way that Charlotte finds out because she doesn't 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:44.520 want to tell me, because she goes, oh, I want 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:46.720 to don't want to tell miss bride because I'm getting 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:49.640 married in like three weeks. I think, I say, right, so, 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.199 and she's right about that, right because I'm in a 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:56.320 whole you know, basically just tizzy about you know, getting 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:59.600 married and being bride blah blah blah blah blah. And 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:01.720 so she does tell me, and we have a very 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:06.440 interesting scene where I Am just thinking to myself, what 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:09.120 is happening here and what did they say to me? 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:13.800 Because it's I am it's interesting. I'm not mad mad 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:16.320 like when we go to and just like that, and 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:19.400 Miranda has the affair with Shay that Charlotte mad right 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:21.760 like Michael Patrick told me to shout at her, which 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:23.520 I did, but I was scared to do it, but 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.840 I did it. But this scene, I'm like disappointed with 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:30.080 Carrie and I say things like you're not even thinking 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:33.400 about her, which is I think one hundred percent true, 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.360 you know, meaning the wife Natasha. But I also feel 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:39.760 like I don't feel I don't know if I'm being 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.440 nice to my friend Carrie in that scene. Do you 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:43.080 think I am? 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:47.120 No? I no, I just I don't think it's even 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.040 about being nice. You know, it's not going to end 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:50.400 your friendship. It's too deep. 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:53.240 It's just you're letting her know that I'm disappointed in you. 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:57.600 Ye, this is and even and even I know you're 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:00.320 getting married in it, but even even you're even sh Arlotte, 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:03.680 I think would be disappointed anyway because she's seeing a 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:09.000 married man. And it's also about protecting Carrie, to protecting 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.800 her heart. You know, that could happen any minute with 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:14.720 this man that's married. So it makes. 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:16.640 It's a big mess. It's a big mess for sure. 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:20.000 And I mean definitely like when when you know, the 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:22.320 whole time, when we find out that he's engaged, and 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:23.800 you know, I read it in the paper and I 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:26.040 don't want her to know. And yes, I definitely seem 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:27.720 like I want to protect her. But I mean when 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:30.000 I watched that scene, it's like, ooh, it makes me 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:33.880 I feel uncomfortable watching the scene between me and Carrie. 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:37.400 You know, you know, look, here's the thing whether people 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:43.160 fans as the character Charlotte, whether they think you're too judgmenttro, 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.200 they hate you for it, or they're on your side. 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:47.520 It's going to be all different kinds of opinions about it. 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:49.440 That's the way it is, and that's what makes it cool. 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:52.280 No, that's true totally. And I also feel when I'm 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:55.760 watching it that I that's when I'm reminded that Charlotte 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.120 is an important point of view because it is different. 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:01.520 Everyone has a different point of view, which is lane Yeah, 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:04.840 which is really good, but I'm never sure if I 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.120 really I feel like Also, this was the time when 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.120 they used to tell me that Charlott wouldn't get mad 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:11.640 right like, which is also kind of weird. 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:17.440 Mad everyone does, and right people, you have to, as 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:19.680 Betty Davis said, you have to dare to be hated. 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:22.760 And that's what it's all about. 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:25.840 I mean, look, I had so many especially gay women 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:27.640 not so much, but gay men would come up to 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:31.840 me and say, you know, you play it definitely much 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.160 more blunt. You know. When I was with you, there 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:36.280 was that scene I was watching and someone just posted 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:40.320 when we were eating a cafeteria and we run into 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:42.800 it's another seat. There's not this episode, but we run 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:48.360 into Stanny and Uh and his friend Marcus and I 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:50.960 tell you the t's of Hooker and that and and 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:52.840 then I'm telling him, like, you know, He's like, I, 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:54.520 I didn't go to the problem. I was like, cause 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:57.800 you were gay and I'm brutal to But it's hilarious 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:00.560 at the same time. But it's interesting how different people 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:02.520 view it. Like women thought it was funny, and. 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:05.760 Charlie and Blunt and Game were like, you're an asult. 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:11.560 It was yeah, interesting, you gotta just but me and 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:14.560 then look and then in the in just like that, 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.680 we all for the for the good or the bad. 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:22.480 We all evolved, we all became grown ups and either 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:27.240 our anxieties grew or we kind of were more relaxed, 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:30.480 or we were more you know. I feel like Anthony 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:33.240 wasn't as He's still blunt, but he wasn't as rude. 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:34.680 He definitely evolved more. 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:36.880 I think you're right. I had not thought about that. 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:40.240 No. I remember her saying, Michael, when I with the bakery, 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:42.040 I'm like, so, I'm not going to be messing around 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:43.760 with these guys at the bakery. Because he was such 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:46.280 a promistuous character and he was like, no, no, no, you don't. 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:49.280 You don't ship where you eat right, and you've evolved, 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:50.280 and I just thought. 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:54.920 Wow, yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely you grew up. 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:58.240 And definitely you became a married woman with a solid 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:04.000 marriage and kids and chaos. Definitely you dealt with that brilliantly. 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:07.040 I told you that how you made me laugh out. 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:07.960 Loud a lot? 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:14.320 Really the premiere the second the second season with you, 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:16.840 the downsized. 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:19.400 Premiere, Oh yeah, yeah yeah, the Writer's Strike premiere. 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:24.800 Yeah, the writers yep, yep. I uh uh. I remember 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:26.920 saying to you, you're. 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.400 So thank you, babe, and. 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:31.200 You've had beautiful things to say about me. You said 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:32.639 it to me first, but I was didn't say to 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:33.439 you because you said it to me. 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:37.400 I was like, you're so funny, but you're so hard 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:40.199 on yourself and you're you're it cracks me up. But 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:43.280 you did obviously have a lot of challenges. I the 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:45.560 thing that I thought about when I was watching this episode, 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:48.720 there's a scene where I'm the coffee shop scene. I've 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:52.280 got this stack of magazines, the Bridal magazines, and you 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.840 say it exactly. That scene almost killed me. With the 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:57.919