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Speaker 1: Fish Unfiltered, Episode sixty. My name is Kevin Brawl. I

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Speaker 1: am your host, and I am here with my co host, Isaacazoit,

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Speaker 1: and we have Eli Sussman, and we have a very

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Speaker 1: very special guest, arm Layton of Just Baseball Ar what's up.

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Speaker 2: We're very excited to have you.

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Speaker 1: Not much minor league talk per se, but definitely going

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Speaker 1: to dive into a couple of prospects that may come

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Speaker 1: Miami's way come July thirty.

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Speaker 2: First.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that intro, by the way, that was awesome,

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Speaker 3: But I'm glad to be on. Always fun to be

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Speaker 3: on with you guys, and hopefully, yeah, hopefully they'll make

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Speaker 3: some moves where we'll have some prospects to talk about

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Speaker 3: when it happens. But it's speculation time and I always

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Speaker 3: enjoy doing that, so pumped to talk about it with

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Speaker 3: you guys.

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Speaker 1: good stuff to help us out. So I guess we

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Speaker 1: could just quickly run through the guys that are probably

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Speaker 1: gonna be the tot hottest candidates. Obviously Lozardo was by

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Speaker 1: far at the top, but pitching injuries have definitely hurt

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Speaker 1: the Marlins. Lozardo goes down, Braxton goes down, the only player,

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Speaker 1: the only pitcher left from the twenty twenty four opening

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Speaker 1: their rotation, and as Trevor Rodgers, and he is maybe

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Speaker 1: someone who teams would be interested in. But Isaac Copt,

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Speaker 1: I mean, at this point, really doesn't look like louzarda

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Speaker 4: Right, No, that's a poegune conclusion.

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately, it just wouldn't make sense for either party involved

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Speaker 5: in a trade to be messing around with his Lozardo

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Speaker 5: obviously his max value was last offseason. I do think

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Speaker 5: he will have considerable value this offseason. I wonder if

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Speaker 5: it'll be in Miami's best interest to wait until following

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Speaker 5: deadline in twenty twenty five, where he'll still have a

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Speaker 5: speed recovery for Lozardo, and since we're just talking about

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Speaker 5: the Marlins injured pitchers, just so everyone's aware of the

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Speaker 5: amount of starting pitchers Miami has on the road in

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Speaker 5: the IL. It's Samuel Contra, Jesos, Uzardo, Joy Perez, Edward Cabrera,

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Speaker 5: Ryan Weathers Rex and Garrett will be joining them, and

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Speaker 5: be the most talented IL rotation in the history of

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Speaker 5: Major League Baseball?

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Speaker 4: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 1: Definitely, definitely up there.

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Speaker 6: I don't know it's up there. I mentioned that as well,

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Speaker 6: and I got a pretty quick feedback that the Astros

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Speaker 3: So there's the Ray's IL rotation is pretty nasty too.

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Speaker 3: It's like Shane McClanahan, Jeffrey Spring, Drew Rasmussen and then

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Speaker 5: And of all those guys, how many of them would

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Speaker 5: have been trade bait this year. I don't really want

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Speaker 5: But Cabrera, Rox and Garrett, Ryan Weathers, Hazels, Uzzarto especially,

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Speaker 5: Bendix was and get some significant value. But now we're

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Speaker 5: gonna get into all the guys that are most likely

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Speaker 1: And I mean, to be fair, Cabrera maybe Philly is

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Speaker 1: when he will He could be back potentially obviously, Yeah

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Speaker 1: But I mean, we're recording this on June twenty third,

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Speaker 1: But right now, just going to quickly stroll through the

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Speaker 1: And then finally, Trevor Rodgers, I think is the name

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Speaker 5: Huh all right, mister general manager, are we got to

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Speaker 5: give him credit? I think he was the one that

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Speaker 4: That was wild.

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Speaker 3: That's about out never top that. Never, I'll never top

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Speaker 3: an exact trade for the rest.

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Speaker 2: Of my life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know l Cruse might might end up going

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Speaker 4: My first one. I mean, listen, we got it. You're

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Speaker 5: Arm Eli's in New York as well. We got to

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Speaker 5: Scott has just been incredible. And my trade that Peter

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Speaker 4: He's number four according to MLB Pipeline. He is in

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Speaker 5: He's a little bit of a glove first guy, switch hitter,

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Speaker 3: So honestly, I was expecting the first trade to be

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Speaker 3: So I think he's a viable target for the Marlins,

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Speaker 4: You got to overpave your the buyer.

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Speaker 3: That's just rules, especially because every major market team's gonna

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Speaker 3: want Tanner Scott.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you guys saw that headline.

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Speaker 3: It was like pick all of the best teams basically

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's good news for the Fish.

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Speaker 1: And I want to go to you real quick before

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Speaker 1: we go into Yorks, because you were talking it was

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Speaker 1: Will maybe just take us through that thought. And if

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Speaker 1: if you do, I mean time the tallest.

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Speaker 6: No, it is an excellent segue also because ar mentioned

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Speaker 6: So I have one of that kind of framework going

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Speaker 6: adds up. So this is what the Royals. The Royals,

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Speaker 6: they're slipping. They're one of the beautiful stories in baseball

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Speaker 6: There are three and eleven in their last fourteen games,

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Speaker 3: How do the Marlins get a shortstop for next year

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Speaker 6: Barring the trade for somebody like this, I guess it's

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Speaker 5: might have enough. I know they have those two guys

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Speaker 5: at the top of the rotation, very fun guys, but

434
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Speaker 5: I think they can use some help. And I think

435
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Speaker 5: that Jazz chism Junior gets traded to the Pirates in exchange.

436
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Speaker 4: I had to add a.

437
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Speaker 5: Little piece I think I want. I think he's got

438
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Speaker 5: the sweetest swing in the minor leagues. I want Tamar

439
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Speaker 5: Johnson as the main piece coming back, and I want

440
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Speaker 5: them to buy low on Mitch jeb two for one,

441
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Speaker 5: Jazz Chishom Junior to the Pittsburgh Pirates. Imagine him O'Neil

442
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Speaker 5: Cruz in that lineup with Jones and Skins in the rotation.

443
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Speaker 5: There you go, and I can see them extending Jets

444
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Speaker 5: too if they want let him, let them deal with Jess.

445
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Speaker 4: I think that's the move.

446
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Speaker 1: And they need a centerfielder too.

447
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Speaker 4: Well.

448
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Speaker 5: They have Sawain Sky laying out there. Ryan Reynolds stinks

449
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Speaker 5: into the outfield. I think that's a I think it

450
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Speaker 5: would take Tamar Johnson to do that.

451
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's interesting because the Pirates system is I

452
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Speaker 3: think is loaded pitching wise, is you're going to find

453
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Speaker 3: I mean, what they've got of course with schemes, and

454
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Speaker 3: then even the guys at the top, you know at

455
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Speaker 3: the big league level that you know, solidified and graduated there.

456
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Speaker 3: But that's not even including Bubba Chandeler, Anthony Solomado, Thomas Harrington.

457
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Speaker 3: I mean, I could go on Mike Burrow's coming back

458
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Speaker 3: off of TJ several other arms that are really exciting

459
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Speaker 3: and solid too. So I'd imagine if they're adding, they're

460
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Speaker 3: going to want to try to trade from those arms.

461
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Speaker 3: But at the same time they are probably going to

462
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Speaker 3: go get a bat in this year's draft. I think

463
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Speaker 3: they picked ninth if I remember correctly, and I'm imagining

464
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Speaker 3: one of the high school bats kind of falling into

465
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Speaker 3: their lap there. So does I make them more willing

466
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Speaker 3: to move off of one of these bats? Are they

467
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Speaker 3: frustrated at this point that Tamar Johnson hasn't quite you know,

468
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Speaker 3: put it all together to the degree that they were hoping,

469
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Speaker 3: and he is limited to second base, so maybe they

470
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Speaker 3: do feel as though, you know what, we're kind of

471
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Speaker 3: hoping that Tamar Johnson becomes something like Jass Chisholm at

472
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Speaker 3: the highest level in terms of his offense, Like why

473
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Speaker 3: not just get the bird in hand here and and

474
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Speaker 3: help our team now and later. I'd imagine that, you know,

475
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Speaker 3: pirates fans probably freak out at that dot and and again,

476
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Speaker 3: I do think that there is a level of the

477
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Speaker 3: optics thing when you talk about a guy that they've

478
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Speaker 3: kind of put he plastered his face in a lot

479
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Speaker 3: of places.

480
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Speaker 2: This is the.

481
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Speaker 3: Future, this is you know, this is what we're gonna

482
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Speaker 3: build towards. But at the same time, when you're getting

483
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Speaker 3: a Jazz Chisholm who his face has been plastered everywhere

484
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Speaker 3: as well and you can market that, I think it

485
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 3: becomes a lot more uh justifiable. I think Jeb in

486
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 3: there as well becomes difficult because now those are their

487
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Speaker 3: two middle infield, and now their best middle infield prospect

488
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Speaker 3: would be Sung Che Chang, I believe, yeah, So like

489
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Speaker 3: that part makes it tough. I think if you could

490
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Speaker 3: pivot from a Turmoilt like from a Mitch Jeb to

491
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Speaker 3: somebody else.

492
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Speaker 5: Yeah, My problem was is that of all the pitches

493
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Speaker 5: that they have, like all the ones you mentioned, it

494
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Speaker 5: was Bubba Chandler. I think he's the one that would

495
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Speaker 5: intrigue Miami the most for obvious reasons. And I think

496
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Speaker 5: he's a little bit further from the big leagues than

497
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Speaker 5: the other two, and I just thought that would be

498
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Speaker 5: an overpay and I'm not gonna beak.

499
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Speaker 2: It'd be too much.

500
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Speaker 4: It'd be way too much. So that's why.

501
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Speaker 5: But you're right, maybe it should, it should be one

502
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Speaker 5: of those pitches, But a trade around those two. Those

503
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Speaker 5: are the two main pieces Jazzism Junior going to Pittsburgh

504
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 5: Tamar Johnson and a pitching prospect, a low level pitching prospect,

505
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 5: mid level pitching prospect for for Jazz and along with Tamar.

506
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Speaker 2: That's fine. I like that.

507
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 3: Again, it would depend on how they like, how quickly

508
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 3: maybe they've adjusted internally on tomorrow. He's clearly not the

509
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Speaker 3: seventy hit tool guy that he was branded as, and

510
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Speaker 3: I think he's one of the more fascinating developments of

511
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Speaker 3: a prospect where he's not the seventy hit tool like

512
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Speaker 3: forty power guy that he was branded as. But he's

513
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Speaker 3: also not the forty power guy who's branded as he's

514
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Speaker 3: got plus easy plus power.

515
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm kind of reevaluating who this guy is.

516
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Speaker 3: But at the same time, he's five eight, he's a

517
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 3: little bit maxed out, so maybe they might realize, hey,

518
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 3: we're probably a little ambitious here, let's cash in while

519
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 3: we can, because if he's twenty two and still doing

520
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 3: the same thing, he's not getting a Jazz Chisholm. So

521
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Speaker 3: I think it's possible, but again it does depend on

522
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Speaker 3: I guess how they feel internally. I like it, and

523
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Speaker 3: he's a great option for the Marlins, and he instantly

524
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Speaker 3: becomes a guy that, even if he doesn't fully pan

525
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Speaker 3: out to what you're hoping it, becomes one of their

526
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Speaker 3: best in field options and a guy that you can

527
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Speaker 3: at least get to the big wigs a little bit,

528
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Speaker 3: you know, within a couple of years, which I think

529
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Speaker 3: they're probably looking at least guys that can get there

530
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Speaker 3: within a couple of years.

531
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Speaker 5: And he's someone that has the strikeout issues of course,

532
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Speaker 5: And that's just like, dude, I've been following the Marlins

533
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Speaker 5: for a very long time. They won't go after someone

534
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Speaker 5: unless he's got a cave rate of over twenty eight percent.

535
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Speaker 4: It's impossible. They just won't do it if you're king

536
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Speaker 4: like Exavier ed I'm surprised they got Exavier Edwards. Honestly.

537
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Speaker 6: Alrighty you lie, yeah, well yeah, so this one's not

546
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Speaker 6: quite as sexy. We have an extended piece on Brian

547
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Speaker 6: Dela Cruz on the site about him because with the

548
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Speaker 6: Mariners in town, it just really struck me that they're

549
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Speaker 6: in first place. They have a decent cushion, but the

550
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Speaker 6: Astros are coming, the Rangers are coming. They need to

551
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Speaker 6: add offense. They're right handed hitting options in their outfield

552
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Speaker 6: aside from Julio. They really need help they brought back

553
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 6: the corpse of Mitch Hanneger, and he's not doing it

554
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Speaker 6: for them. They signed everybody one of the Marvels to

555
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Speaker 6: go for Mitch gar in free agency last year. The

556
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Speaker 6: Mariners get him. He is the lowest batting average among

557
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Speaker 6: guys with at least as many at bats as he

558
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Speaker 6: has with two hundred plus at bats, he's been a

559
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 6: bust for them. Unfortunately, they have Victor Roebliss, even to

560
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Speaker 6: guy that like they picked him up off the scrap

561
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 6: he was to play part time in the left field

562
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Speaker 6: for them, So I think DLC is a clear upgrade

563
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Speaker 6: for them now. He also has three more years of

564
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Speaker 6: control after this year, and I think there's value to it.

565
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Speaker 6: Not he he's not a flashy guy. He never has

566
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Speaker 6: quite performed as well as the underlying batted ball data

567
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Speaker 6: would suggest, but he's on pace for thirty homers. He

568
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Speaker 6: can handle righty's and left ease, and he's been more

569
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Speaker 6: consistent this year than ever before. So I think there's

570
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Speaker 6: gonna be teams interested, especially because just the lack of

571
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Speaker 6: alternatives on the market when it comes to decent hitting

572
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Speaker 6: corner outfielder. So I think there's a market forum and

573
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Speaker 6: I think Seattle is the place for him. I have

574
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Speaker 6: two versions of this, so I guess that makes it

575
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Speaker 6: really easy with this deal. The one piece that one

576
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Speaker 6: included is third baseman Ben Williamson, who was their second

577
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Speaker 6: round pick last year, putting up good OBP numbers, solid

578
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Speaker 6: defensive third baseman. He's already at double A after being

579
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Speaker 6: drafted last year, really lacking in the power department from

580
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Speaker 6: a typical third basement so far. That being said, he's

581
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Speaker 6: you know, he's playing gets a lot older competition and

582
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Speaker 6: doing well. And that's a position of need in the

583
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Speaker 6: Marlins organization. They've they've Jacob Barry playing way too much

584
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Speaker 6: third base for my liking in Pensacola right now. So

585
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Speaker 6: this is kind of an obvious place.

586
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Speaker 2: A little bit now, Yes, and.

587
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Speaker 4: It's not.

588
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Speaker 6: I'm not gonna take too many shots at Jacob Barry

589
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Speaker 6: beyond what I already have to this point one Ben Williamson. Now,

590
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Speaker 6: the question is whether how how how much you can

591
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 6: dream about this second piece. You know, the optimistic view

592
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Speaker 6: is having Ty Pete included in there. He's a young

593
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Speaker 6: prep shortstop who he's performing relatively well so far this season,

594
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Speaker 6: and I enjoyed watching his highlights. I mean, I think

595
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 6: it's a bigger question about how that actually looks at

596
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 6: at the higher levels. But he was what the thirtieth

597
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Speaker 6: overall pick during that same draft class so far, I think,

598
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Speaker 6: And so that might be a little optimistic to get

599
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Speaker 6: both type Pete and Williamson in here. And if that is,

600
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Speaker 6: then instead of Pete, the alternative that I was thinking

601
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Speaker 6: of was Dowell Joseph, who was the top international signing

602
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Speaker 6: from the Mariners class this past year. He's in the

603
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Speaker 6: DSL right now, often relatively slow start, but three million

604
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Speaker 6: dollar bonus. His measurables are actually kind of similar to

605
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Speaker 6: Type Pete. It's just that he's a couple of years

606
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Speaker 6: away from that trajectory. So DLC for Ben Williamson. Do

607
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Speaker 6: you think Williamson and ty Pete is that doable? Or

608
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 6: do you have to swap Pete out for Dowell Joseph.

609
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Speaker 3: I think you probably got to stop him out for

610
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Speaker 3: Dwell Joseph because I think with Ty Pete, everything I

611
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 3: keep hearing from from just those who have seen him,

612
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Speaker 3: you know some and also I'm just go to the Mariners.

613
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 3: They're really excited about what he can be. I mean,

614
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Speaker 3: this is one of the younger guys in the class

615
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 3: from last year. He's eighteen and typically a little bit

616
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Speaker 3: different from what they have liked to target. They like

617
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Speaker 3: those higher floor guys, hit tool guys. They've done really

618
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,479
Speaker 3: good job drafting those types. And then I think they

619
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Speaker 3: swung for the fences with those three first round picks,

620
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Speaker 3: going a little bit more volatile with Pete and so

621
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Speaker 3: far he's really held his own, yeah, in LA and

622
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Speaker 3: it looks really solid. And then with the performance of Williamson,

623
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Speaker 3: where as you mentioned, just getting off to such a

624
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 3: good start, his value has got nothing but up. And

625
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Speaker 3: they're even playing him at short a little bit too,

626
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Speaker 3: because he's so shorthanded at third. I was curious that

627
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 3: he was going to handle professional competition, you know, out

628
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 3: of william and Mary, you know what that jump was

629
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Speaker 3: going to look like for him, and clearly, as you mentioned,

630
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Speaker 3: like he has made that jump pretty pretty seamlessly. I

631
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Speaker 3: think Williamson is the perfect target for the Marlins. That's

632
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Speaker 3: been a name that I like kind of looked at

633
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Speaker 3: as no brainer for them to cash in on on

634
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Speaker 3: the Mariners side, and also you know for the Marlins,

635
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Speaker 3: and no brainer to add into the fold. I think

636
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Speaker 3: Joseph probably much more likely further off, and you know,

637
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 3: they have several other guys at the complex even that

638
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: that are going to be getting a lot more reps

639
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: than him, in like a Felnding Celliston who's now made

640
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 3: it state side, but that's like one of their main

641
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,959
Speaker 3: main guys, and several others I think that they're interested in,

642
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 3: you know, that I don't think would make it too

643
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 3: difficult to move off of them. I was curious what

644
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 3: you thought, though, like, do you feel like for the

645
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Speaker 3: Marlins it makes more sense to go for those guys

646
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Speaker 3: that are farther off that you know, you probably have

647
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Speaker 3: valued at the same as as maybe a Jonathan class

648
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Speaker 3: A who's pretty much big league ready but comes with

649
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 3: a little bit less upside and you know, things like that,

650
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 3: because I think that could be a guy that I

651
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 3: see them potentially moving off of.

652
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: And the Marlins probably need a center fielder too.

653
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 6: That's an interesting one.

654
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 3: But I do think I do think that ty Pete

655
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 3: might be too difficult to get to pry away at

656
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 3: this point. But I do like the Williamson start, And

657
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 3: then I guess it becomes what do you think, like

658
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: would you rather have the guy that's closer to the

659
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: big leagues and plugs right in or the high upside

660
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 3: p that could end up, you know, altering your outlook

661
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 3: if if it works out.

662
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't been able to talk to too many people

663
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 5: about this. I just from what I'm just going off

664
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 5: of the previous acquisitions that they've made, and obviously it's

665
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 5: Peter Bennet's not comin anymore, who traded away so far

666
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 5: from the big league guys like Marco Vargas and Ronald Hernandez.

667
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 5: I just don't know exactly what they're looking for. I

668
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 5: don't know if they're looking to get their plugins guys

669
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 5: from trades and this deadline, or they're just going to

670
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 5: go sign Tim Anderson's next year and plug them in

671
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 5: center field and stuff. I don't know what they're going

672
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 5: to do, But I'll try and ask around a little

673
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 5: bit more, because it really is interesting who are we

674
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 5: supposed to target?

675
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 4: Who are they going to target?

676
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 5: Are they going to be targeting double A guys, triple

677
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 5: guys or you know, fcl LOWI guys.

678
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 4: So it really does it really changes things immensely.

679
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: And that's the interesting thing too, because you look at

680
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: the Ryes straight for example. You know, it wasn't one

681
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,719
Speaker 1: specific type of multiple guys.

682
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 4: It's two double of guys.

683
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: One guy who was already the fad and who's a

684
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: go who's now a triple A, who's actually he's been

685
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: alright with the numbers. And then you have Dylan Head

686
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: who's now out for the year and was a nineteen

687
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: year old I think. So it's I mean, when you

688
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: look at that one trade, they went after everything there.

689
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: So we'll see what they do. I'm gonna steal the

690
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: team from Isaac and Pittsburgh and the player from ELI

691
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: and Brian de la Cruz, and I'm gonna say, Brian

692
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: de la Cruz is gonna be a Pittsburgh pirate in

693
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: exchange for Mitch Jeb and John Silk Shim, so they'll

694
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: get a picture in return who's.

695
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 4: Been all right.

696
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: And then they get Mitch Jeb who, as Isaac said,

697
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna buy a low on there. So

698
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: two names that the Marls were interested in during the offseason.

699
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: If you guys remember for that Edward trade. So yeah,

700
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: those infamous rumors. So I went with those two guys

701
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: for DLC. I had other moves out there, but I

702
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: went with the with the safe bet here for the

703
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: for the purpose of this experiment.

704
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 3: So you went Mitch, Mitch Jebb with the first with

705
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 3: the first piece. Mitch, Yeah, I mean, okay, Jeb. Last

706
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 3: time I can't I can lie have not checked in

707
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: on Jeb. He's been horrible. I know last time I

708
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: checked in, it was bad. It's really I was. I

709
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: was given Alex Fair a hard time for that one

710
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 3: because I know he loved Mitch Jebb and I was, like,

711
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 3: you check in recently.

712
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: But that said, like, he is a really good bats

713
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: of ball guy.

714
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 3: Historically, it could be a good bi low opportunity change

715
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: of scenery and you know, Randilla Cruz is not gonna

716
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 3: bring in a you know, a franchise altering hall uh.

717
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: John sucks him.

718
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: I love because he's hurt unfortunately, and that that that

719
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 3: seems to be a theme so far through the early

720
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 3: parts of his career.

721
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: But if it works out.

722
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 3: For him, like that's a that's a guy that can

723
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 3: change the scope of things, Like he is a guy

724
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 3: that it was with the Marlins, you know, development on

725
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 3: the pitching side, with what he's capable of, I mean,

726
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: it's a fastball in the upper ninety. Some of the

727
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 3: characteristics are crazy, like that's a guy that very far off,

728
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 3: but if it works out, could could be a monster

729
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: and a really good piece for you. So, you know,

730
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 3: if you're gonna cash in on a Dyla Cruz like,

731
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 3: I think you could go that either the route of

732
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 3: the higher floor Williamson type or just bilo on one

733
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 3: guy and shoot for the stars on another guy that

734
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 3: could you know, flame out in the lower levels or

735
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,479
Speaker 3: be a really impactful arm. I actually really like that,

736
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 3: And I do think like with the talent that the

737
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 3: Pirates have, and you know, a guy like Xander Mui

738
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 3: who they just drafted and it's been pitching at the complex,

739
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: is kind of lapped, you know, John Suck Shim at

740
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 3: this point. Hunter Barco has surpassed Shim at this point,

741
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 3: probably because of just being available and what they're doing.

742
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 3: I think that could be an opportunity where the Marlins

743
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 3: actually get a little bit more bang for their buck

744
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: because of just the way that they match up with

745
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 3: the Pirates. And again I think the Pirates are if

746
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 3: they're going to make a trade, probably hunting control.

747
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

748
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 5: Let me ask you though, going back to Eli's trade

749
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 5: with with Brian Delacruz. You attach one of these relievers

750
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 5: with Dela Cruz to Seattle, what does what doors does

751
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 5: that open?

752
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: Oh?

753
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think all of a sudden you

754
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: start to maybe tap into that that tier two or

755
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 3: like and I would put Williamson in that tier too,

756
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 3: but like another potential you know, tier two guy there.

757
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 3: Michael Arroyo is a name that I really like. Yeah,

758
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 3: he's maybe limited defensively to an average second base or

759
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 3: or passable third base. But again, another guy that just

760
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 3: is is would be a rarity in the Marlin system

761
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: that is just mass.

762
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: Really at every stops so far. He's nineteen years old.

763
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure has an ops over nine hundred right

764
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 3: now in Awe, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, definitely that's

765
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 3: a guy that I think fits right in immediately. So

766
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: maybe that that's somebody that you know, it gets unlocked

767
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 3: because again you look at the guys ahead of him.

768
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: For Melo of course hurt the season, but and then

769
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 3: you have TYPEE. As we mentioned, it might be a

770
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 3: little bit too much of a reach. Tyler walckleyar seems

771
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 3: like he's not going to be available. Ryan Bliss has

772
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 3: become a guy that's ended up helping them right now

773
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 3: in the infield. So Arroyo could be that that name

774
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 3: that they end up kind of unlocking if they do

775
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 3: include a reliever, and shit, I mean he'd be one

776
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 3: of their better one of the better guys right away.

777
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 4: Do you think Fauche gets that done with Dela Cruz.

778
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 4: I don't think that. I think ten Or and I.

779
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 5: Think Scott you deal separate, you deal individually or with

780
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 5: another relieve.

781
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 4: I don't know they want to attached tennis.

782
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 5: To Brian Dela Cruz, but I think one of those

783
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 5: three non Tanner scar believers that we've mentioned.

784
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a Cronin and uh and and a

785
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 3: Dyla Cruz can can get you to unlock a royal

786
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 3: in that deal, and that that would be a really

787
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 3: good spot for for the Marlins.

788
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 2: I guess we.

789
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 1: Are with with Lozardo real quick, and we're not gonna

790
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: obviously he's injured, But what do you think a health

791
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: in lozarda would have garnered in this deadline because you

792
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: look at what there was in the off season. You

793
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: had that Cordon Burns trade, which I believe was deal

794
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: Hall another prospect, and Joey Ortiz. That I mean, right

795
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: now you look at it, Joys would have been the

796
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: short stop of the future for the Marlin deal. Hall

797
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: would have been a nice piece in the rotation or

798
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: even in the bullpen. And I don't I can't remember

799
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: there was a third prospect, but that probably would have

800
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: been that was it?

801
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? And I think a Compick as well, right if Yeah,

802
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 2: probably the Compact. Yeah, but what.

803
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ortiz would be the answer at shortstop, no doubt

804
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: about that.

805
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 2: That's a prospect of liked for a really long time.

806
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 3: But I also understand the apprehension there given that you know,

807
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 3: Ortis had struggled at that point as limited big league

808
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 3: sample is older as a prospect twenty five, you know,

809
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 3: and Deo Hall comes with with with plenty of baggage.

810
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, it's been hurt, you know, for a decent part

811
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 2: of this year.

812
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 3: But I do think it would have been probably even

813
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 3: a little bit more than that, even though he hasn't

814
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 3: been pitching that great this year. You look at the market,

815
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 3: the market was either a garat crochet who is blowing

816
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 3: past any amount of innings we've really ever seen him throw.

817
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: And yes, he's throwing better than Wizardo, but also doesn't

818
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 3: have the track record that Wizardo has, and I think

819
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 3: a lot of teams would want would want to add

820
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 3: and buy with control and what other options are there

821
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 3: out there other than Wizardo. So I think it would

822
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 3: have been that type of haul, if not more, I

823
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 3: think you would have been looking at two top one

824
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 3: hundred guys and then another good piece. And that's the

825
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 3: really frustrating part because I think, especially if the White

826
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 3: Sox decided to hold on to Crochet, I mean, the

827
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 3: Marlins would have had pretty much a chance to set

828
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: the market pitching wise, I don't I don't think there's

829
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 3: really a lot of other options there that that would

830
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 3: have been much more valuable than the Lizardo, who also

831
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 3: has pitched in what three postseasons now as well, which

832
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 3: is a very underrated aspect of what you know he

833
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 3: brings to the table and has he been dominant in

834
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 3: all of them? No, but he's pitched in three post

835
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 3: seasons and a guy that you know, you don't see

836
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 3: that a lot with young, controllable pieces coming from you know,

837
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 3: crappy teams that they have that postseason experience as well.

838
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: So I think there would have been a lot of

839
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: value to him there, and they could have got a

840
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: nice haul unfortunately.

841
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, Trevor Rodgers, he pitched in the postseason in twenty

842
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 6: twenty one game when they were already kind of like lost.

843
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 6: Cause I only bring that up because prior to this

844
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 6: arm you mentioned, I don't know if I think you

845
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 6: were serious about the positiveity.

846
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, him too.

847
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 6: The Astros just just more people through what you've made.

848
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 6: Been thinking there, because the Astros have pretty much the

849
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 6: same caliber of pitching injuries that the Marlins do, but

850
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 6: they're obviously trying to this year.

851
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, like I was just trying to think about

852
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 3: how the Astros typically operate. And yes, we saw them

853
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 3: be more aggressive last year for sure, and that was

854
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 3: surprising to see them, you know, part with Drew Gilbert

855
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 3: and Ryan Clifford and and you know, I think the

856
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 3: fact that the Mets were willing to eat a ton

857
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 3: of money on a Hall of Fame pitcher definitely helps

858
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 3: with control on that front. But I think when you

859
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 3: go get their system, it's it's from that those trades

860
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 3: is a little bit depleted. They don't have a ton

861
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 3: of assets, but they do have still enough to go

862
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 3: get pieces like a Trevor Rodgers.

863
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: Trevor Rodgers I think has like a three.

864
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 3: Three two seventy ear or something like that over his

865
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 3: last seven starts, like he's starting to settle in a

866
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 3: little bit. But the Astros, notoriously, they buy low on

867
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: guys and they they figure out.

868
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 2: How to get a little bit out of them again.

869
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 3: And I know the Marlins are a great factory for pitching,

870
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 3: but sometimes you just need a new set of eyes

871
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 3: and a new environment to figure something out. And we

872
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: know that Rogers can create unique angles, has unique stuff,

873
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: and I think the Astros could look get him as

874
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 3: a candidate that they could you know, buy lowish on

875
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 3: and maximize. And also they don't have the capital to

876
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: go compete for a crochet or go compete for some

877
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 3: of the top arms on the market, and they might

878
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 3: not want to risk that because they are still kind

879
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 3: of tweeners right now. Yes they've won five straight, but

880
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 3: you know, I think when they make a move here,

881
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 3: it's going to be a move to help them this year,

882
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 3: but also set them up for success beyond this year,

883
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 3: and not be a move where you're pushing all the

884
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 3: chips forward. I think the Astros are the perfect fit

885
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 3: for that for that exact reason, and I think when

886
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 3: you look at like a match up there, there's more

887
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: than enough prospects there I think in the Astro system

888
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 3: that would make a lot of sense for the Marlins.

889
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 3: Joey Lo Braffito now at the big league level and

890
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:33,479
Speaker 3: probably a.

891
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 2: Piece for them. I would love to see him with

892
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: the Marlins, of course, but I don't think he's going anywhere.

893
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 3: But they've got guys like Zach Dezenzo, who's a third

894
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: baseman that may end up being the contingency plan to

895
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 3: Alex Bregman, but also could be a guy that's available.

896
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 3: I love Jacob Melton that might be a little bit lofty,

897
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 3: but a Luis bay As also another outfield prospect that

898
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 3: is a little bit further off but exciting. Bryce Matthews,

899
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 3: i'd imagine is untouchable, So that's the guy that you

900
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: can kind of pencil in maybe at third base, and

901
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 3: maybe he's kind.

902
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: Of leap frog Dezenzo.

903
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 3: So I just feel like from that group alone, there's

904
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: enough guys there that I think would be really good

905
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 3: gets for the Marlins. Makes a lot of sense for

906
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 3: the Astros, and they're not parting with let's say they

907
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 3: don't part with a Melton Bias or Matthews. That's a

908
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 3: non starter. Dozenzo would be immediately I think the third

909
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 3: basement of the future for the Marlins. And and you

910
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 3: know again that's a position of need. And then a

911
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 3: Kennedy Corona or even I mean, you could throw in

912
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 3: a few different outfielders that are worth a shot in

913
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: that system. Of pedro Leone, screw it, see what he

914
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 3: can do. I think anything built around that Shay Whitcombe,

915
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 3: he's playing pretty well and he can play shortstop. That

916
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 3: could be your flyer at short Like they've got enough

917
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 3: pieces there where. Give me guys that actually fill out

918
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 3: roles for the Marlins and could actually be solid for them,

919
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 3: and say this.

920
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 6: This is Trevor Rodgers pitching in the postseason in Minute

921
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 6: Made Park. He can do it.

922
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then with Trevor real quick like Lozardo, he

923
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: becomes a free agent twenty seven, So I mean they

924
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: would have him for a bit there. But Eli Isaac,

925
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: anything you guys left on the back burner worth I

926
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: guess thrown out there for the for the Yes, this was.

927
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 5: Someone that I circled like a few days ago, and

928
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 5: I forgot and you guys talked about the Astros though,

929
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 5: what does it take for Louis Buys That guy is

930
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 5: a stud, but.

931
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 3: He he hits bombs. It would be difficult. It would

932
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 3: definitely be difficult.

933
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 5: Give them Billa Bruz back, give them Trevor Rodgers back,

934
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 5: and give them Tennor Scott.

935
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 3: What I could see is, like you know, a lot

936
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 3: of times teams, you know, they don't want to trade

937
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: one like that Bias plus other guys like and and

938
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 3: they'll finally bend and say, okay, you want Bias.

939
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 2: It's just bias for Rogers. Maybe maybe that could be

940
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 2: the way that they do it.

941
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 3: Maybe it's another one of those you throw in a

942
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 3: prospect the other way, because the Astros do will always

943
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 3: like to to get something back to in that regard.

944
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: I think it would be hard, and I still think

945
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 3: it would be worth it though if Melton, Bias Matthews

946
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 3: are not available, that the Zenzo or some of these

947
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 3: other guys could still be worth it enough. And they

948
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 3: have a lot of upper miners guys and I still

949
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 3: think could help this team and just fill roles, even

950
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 3: like a Will Wagner. So it might be hard, but

951
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 3: if you throw in you know, a reliever with control.

952
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 3: I know they've already invested so much in the bullpen,

953
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 3: but that might almost make them more willing to go

954
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 3: get a cheaper arm like a crown In or whoever

955
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 3: that has control. If you throw in a reliever there too, Bias,

956
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 3: I think then becomes very attainable, and then you can

957
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 3: probably pair in a couple of those other upper Miners

958
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: guys and becomes a nice package for the Marlins. But

959
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 3: Bias would instantly become the Marlins I think best power

960
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 3: hitting prospect.

961
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: Out of Tanner Scott trade to Philadelphia for Eduardo Bay

962
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: and Jose Rodriguez. Phillies need a reliever pretty badly too,

963
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: so I don't know. I mean, Philadelphia's farm systems definitely improved,

964
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: but it's still not, you know, one of the best

965
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: of the best out there.

966
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: But I mean, what would you fit that.

967
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 3: I would love that if I'm if I'm a Marlins fan,

968
00:42:58,480 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 3: because yes, Tate's.

969
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 2: Far off, but he's a left.

970
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 3: Handed hitting catcher and another position where like that's why

971
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: when when people talk about the moral in situation, we

972
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 3: we always acknowledge catcher, center field, shortstop, and then even

973
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 3: third base, where like organizational you can't point towards oh,

974
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 3: that guy hopefully will be the future there. Maybe Joe

975
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 3: Mackott Catcher.

976
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 4: Hates a little band field. It's just geez, man, you

977
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 4: hate that guy.

978
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: I'm excited for him. He just he's not.

979
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 4: Sure I like him.

980
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: You guys have made made it made me almost not

981
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 3: like him as a player.

982
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 2: But no, I'm always rooting for him. He's a good guy.

983
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 3: But uh no, I mean you look at Tate, I mean,

984
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 3: that would instantly be their their you know, best upside

985
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 3: piece behind the dish. And then you know, I obviously

986
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 3: you're not gonna get a Kaba or some of these

987
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 3: other guys, especially if it's in division. And I think

988
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 3: if you're Dombrowski in your training in division, it's only

989
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 3: gonna be guys that are far off, because he'll be like,

990
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 3: by the time Tate's there, I'll be retired, uh and

991
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 3: hopefully have a World Series.

992
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's how Dobraski's seeing it.

993
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: I think that'd be a great way to cash in

994
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 3: on a reliever, to potentially, you know, get the guy

995
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 3: that could be the catcher of your future.

996
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: He's just seventeen. But the Marbls just need more irons

997
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 2: in the fire.

998
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm trying to just look through their entire

999
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 5: roster on every single minor league affiliate, and dear lord,

1000
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 5: they have question marks in almost every single prime position.

1001
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 5: And if you're Peter Bendix, why do you even take

1002
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 5: this job? Like, holy crap, talk about the work you

1003
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 5: have to do. I mean, there's not a single good

1004
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 5: player in the entire system at least. I guess really

1005
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 5: quick before we end this, just what I'm sure you've

1006
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 5: been following Noble and Thomas White.

1007
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 4: Which one do you favor? Oh?

1008
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,959
Speaker 3: So it's funny they're U the top one hundred update.

1009
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 3: Those are two guys that climbed significantly. Yeah, I think

1010
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: it's two very different profiles, and I like them both

1011
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 3: for their exact like for who they are, if that

1012
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 3: makes sense, Because like I love the funky release and

1013
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 3: unique stuff type of arms like a Noble Meyer, because

1014
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 3: I think that upside is immense, like that what that

1015
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 3: can become when you command your stuff and you find

1016
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 3: the third pitch there, because you know the fastball is

1017
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: gonna get a ton of lifts. You know the slider

1018
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 3: is gonna play unbelievably well from that release, Like he

1019
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 3: has more of that like Sky's the limit upside. But

1020
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 3: then Thomas White, I've been floored by the field for

1021
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: three pitches. Like the fastball. We knew that was a

1022
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 3: good fastball, I didn't think it was this good, the

1023
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 3: change up being what it is again, we knew it

1024
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 3: was good. I didn't think it was going to be

1025
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 3: this good. And then the curveball is just nasty as well,

1026
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 3: and he's locating both of those secondaries for a strike

1027
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 3: right around a sixty percent clip, which is great for

1028
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 3: a teenage left hander who's six five. And then the

1029
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 3: fastball characteristics are great. I've been floored by what White

1030
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 3: can do, and I think he's continued to close that gap.

1031
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 3: But I think just the upside of Meyer is going

1032
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 3: to give him the edge at this point. But someone

1033
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 3: asked on the mailbag for the call up and was like,

1034
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,959
Speaker 3: who's someone that you could see making the biggest leap

1035
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 3: on the top one hundred, you know, in the next date,

1036
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 3: And Thomas White was one of the names I mentioned,

1037
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 3: because you know, if he's doing this at the double

1038
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 3: A level, which I think he can do, I think

1039
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 3: he's gonna get an opportunity to maybe by the end

1040
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: of the year. But even if he's continuing to do

1041
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 3: it in high AI and fill up his own with

1042
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 3: these three pitches, clearly there's some funkiness to the way

1043
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 3: he hides the ball, and hitters just don't like it.

1044
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 3: I think people are going to start to get really

1045
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 3: excited about him, like really quickly, and I think he's

1046
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 3: going to start to become one of the better young

1047
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 3: pitching prospects in baseball. He's touching ninety nine, man like that,

1048
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 3: and it's low effort, it's it's really fun.

1049
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 5: And it's a slur of too what he told us.

1050
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 5: It's more of a slur than just a pure twelve six.

1051
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 5: It's a hell of a breaking pitch. I've honestly just

1052
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 5: been so impressed with these two high school kids.

1053
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 4: It's been on and I'm glad you put this out there. Eli.

1054
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 4: Now last thing I'm gonna bother you with aream you put?

1055
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 5: Obviously, Dylan Head is the best position player prospect in

1056
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 5: this organization without a doubt, Like, obviously, thank you. Can

1057
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 5: you explain why you think he's better than Victor Mason Junior?

1058
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 5: To my colleagues over here, we had an argument. We

1059
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 5: were doing our fish on first top thirty list and

1060
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 5: they didn't let me put Victor Mason Junior behind Dylanhead,

1061
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 5: and I'm very furious with that.

1062
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 3: Well, with the injury now, you know, I think it

1063
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 3: becomes more more wide open.

1064
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 2: But I like Mace a lot.

1065
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: Obviously we had a conversation a little while ago and

1066
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 3: trying to sell him as the best position player of prospect,

1067
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 3: but I think with Dylanhead and he just hasn't had

1068
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 3: a chance to get his feet under him crow Obviously,

1069
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 3: what I was to afford with as an amateur and

1070
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 3: then the early parts of his professional career is how

1071
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: comfortable he already is in center field. And Mason is

1072
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: a great center fielder too, but Head has a chance

1073
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 3: to be a really, really, really good defender out there.

1074
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 3: The field of hit was was very impressive to me too,

1075
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 3: and I know it wasn't quite transcending, but again I

1076
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 3: felt like it was more of just not being able

1077
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 3: to get those consistent reps and.

1078
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: Then flashing above average exit.

1079
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 3: Of velocities already at times, especially to the pollside, we're

1080
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 3: seeing him pop like one o six as one oh

1081
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 3: seven's with kind of low effort. I hope that the

1082
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 3: speed you know is maintained after the surgery and all that,

1083
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 3: But we're talking about an easy seventy runner. We're talking

1084
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 3: about a guy that has a chance to be an

1085
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 3: above average hit tool guy, and then the guy that

1086
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 3: has a chance to at least have you know, you

1087
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 3: hope for friends, but maybe even average power. I think

1088
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 3: it's more likely going to be fringy, but you're seeing

1089
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 3: flashes of that. I just thought there was so much

1090
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 3: to dream on here. Again, those further off guys, there's

1091
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 3: there's more risk, but when you have that glove and

1092
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 3: center and that speed, you know, it becomes just a

1093
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 3: more of a preferential thing. Of course, Victor Masa Jr.

1094
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 3: He's very close and he has the floor of a

1095
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 3: fourth outfielder. I think at this point you can.

1096
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 4: Say that that's that's generous. I don't know about that.

1097
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 3: I like the glove and center, so I'm willing to

1098
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 3: to to give him that higher floor. But I do

1099
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 3: think that when you look at what head can do,

1100
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 3: it's it's kind of like all all of the things

1101
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 3: that Mesa has grown into, but with the sliders turned

1102
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 3: up a little bit, maybe not as much power, but

1103
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 3: I think you could dream on a little bit more hit.

1104
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 3: So I'll always lean on that upside when when a

1105
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 3: guy like Mesa's probably capped right at best, you're looking

1106
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 3: at a slightly above average regular and and that makes

1107
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 3: it a little bit more difficult for me.

1108
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm on the side that Victor Masa jun ceiling

1109
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 5: is a fourth outfield unfortunately.

1110
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: You know, sneaky young dude.

1111
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 4: He is young, but he you know, he's very young.

1112
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 5: I don't know, he was very young when they signed him,

1113
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 5: and what was it at the end of twenty nineteen.

1114
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1115
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 5: I think a ceiling is in between like being a

1116
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 5: fringe regular, Like I can't think of a complimce.

1117
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 6: I mean maybe it's a bias. I mean it's definitely

1118
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 6: a bias. But he's been the organization now six years,

1119
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 6: and I really have aside from all the tangibles who

1120
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 6: talks about, I feel like I have a pretty good

1121
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 6: feel for his makeup and he's a really strong makeup guy.

1122
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 6: Whatever whatever his schools are going to like lead him to.

1123
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 6: He really loves ball, really genuinely, and every the intangibles

1124
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 6: outside of that, I think he's going to reach whatever

1125
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 6: the best version of himself is and he has time

1126
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 6: on his side. It's yeah, so I agree with basically

1127
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 6: everything you guys said, and it's kind of unfair tohead

1128
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 6: because we haven't got there know him much at all

1129
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 6: to this point, given his limited time in pro Ball

1130
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 6: and his limited time in the organization. It's just that

1131
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 6: this is more about uh yeah, still very confident about Mesa,

1132
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 6: and I hope he gets the big leagues this year,

1133
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 6: just because that was one of my bold predictions this year,

1134
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 6: so that he would get a short stint in the

1135
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 6: big leagues this year. There's no rush, but it's on

1136
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,439
Speaker 6: the forty. Man's come back down to earth a little

1137
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 6: bit as a hitter since getting off to a great

1138
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 6: start at Triple A. But still he's here's one of

1139
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 6: the few good ones in this orger right now.

1140
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 3: Did you guys do you guys have Masa on the

1141
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 3: on the show? I thought I remembered, No, not our show.

1142
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 6: I spoke to him one on one when he was

1143
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 6: in the Fall League, and the interview the audio kind

1144
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 6: of got butchered from that, but I put into the

1145
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 6: story and I've gotten to know him pretty well. But yeah,

1146
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 6: we haven't had him on this pod.

1147
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: He's a cool guy.

1148
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 2: Funny dude. He's a funny dude. I could.

1149
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know they love him in Jacksonville, but like

1150
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 3: he's a funny guy, like one of the few of that,

1151
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 3: like the conversations I'll have, like for interviews or whatever

1152
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 3: it may be, Like he just makes you laugh.

1153
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 2: More than anyone. I think the messy story is pretty absurd.

1154
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:58,919
Speaker 2: He's a cool guy.

1155
00:50:59,320 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 4: I do agree.

1156
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 3: Like the makeup is a big differentiator there, especially when

1157
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 3: you see, you know, his the direction where it can

1158
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 3: go the other way and and and you know how

1159
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 3: it can end up being something that you get in

1160
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 3: your own way, which you know has happened with some

1161
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 3: Marwinz prospects as well, So you know, I think it's

1162
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 3: definitely something that can be a separator there, and that

1163
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 3: Jacksonville teams fun.

1164
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 2: I can't lie.

1165
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 3: I was Troy Johnson was on cycle Watch today on

1166
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 3: his birthday.

1167
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: He was home run and triple and then and then

1168
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 2: that was it. Unfortunately, Happy birthday to Troy. I know

1169
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 2: he's starting to heat up a little bit.

1170
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 4: No, they'll give him a shot. They'll give him a shot.

1171
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 2: They got a few guys in jackson should get a

1172
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 2: shot this year.

1173
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 5: I think they'll give him and Griff a shot. They'll

1174
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 5: give I think gets a shot as well. If you're

1175
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 5: not gonna do it this year, I guess they have

1176
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 5: a lot of time next year.

1177
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, when VMJ is lowered the strikeout rate, he's

1178
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: walking a bit more. I mean, he kind of cooled

1179
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: back down to his usual standards. Now he's under a

1180
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 1: one hundred w RC plus. But I mean, oh yeah,

1181
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: you have you have nothing to lose with with bringing

1182
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: them up at this point in the season.

1183
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 2: Obviously.

1184
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 1: I don't agree with Isaac saying the ceilings the fourth

1185
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: outfield because it's so play pretty good corner spots no

1186
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: matter what.

1187
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 2: And if Jazz is.

1188
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 1: Gonna be here for a couple more years, who knows,

1189
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: you will have vm J to play the corners, and

1190
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: he could do it better than probably anyone on the

1191
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: current major league roster.

1192
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:26,479
Speaker 2: Yes, so by.

1193
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 4: Defensively than HAYESU Sanchez and Brian de la Cruz. Are

1194
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 4: you sure?

1195
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, it's pretty cut I'm joking, But yeah,

1196
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's a cool guy. He's probably listening

1197
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: to this. He listens to our stuff. He got he

1198
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 1: what was it was during spring training that that he

1199
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: that he he told me that that.

1200
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 2: I didn't pick I picked him to late.

1201
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: Isaac picked him in the call up contest thing and

1202
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: passed up on him, and I was like.

1203
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 4: Man, no, did I pick them third third?

1204
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: You picked him in the second last round or something.

1205
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 6: But just a moment, and I'll put this up as

1206
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 6: our final segment because we are.

1207
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was trying to remember where I okay, I

1208
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 3: must have been with Alex though where I saw him

1209
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 3: on there. But like, he's always good for a funny

1210
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 3: sound bite if you run into him.

1211
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, anyone that refers to himself as a

1212
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 5: chosen one has to be funny, you know.

1213
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 3: There we go, Oh the call of contest there. Yeah,

1214
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 3: but you guys did this before the season.

1215
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, great, big before spring training. Great thick cat cat.

1216
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: Let me see who's about Rotter?

1217
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 5: Dan Josh Simpson? You're screwed? Are you talking about Rottery?

1218
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,919
Speaker 5: Or Griffin conin for Kevin Griff Griffs at W Yeah?

1219
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 5: Oh ps and triple A. He's getting out there, bro.

1220
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's gonna get a shot. I can all.

1221
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're a homer today.

1222
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, Carvers.

1223
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: Carvers isn't looking too hot.

1224
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 4: Mine is in. I don't know if they're gonna give Bandfield.

1225
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 2: You need to Banfield just snapped for thirty four. I believe, yeah,

1226
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 2: go deep. Yesterday he was struggling real bad.

1227
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,959
Speaker 4: He hadn't gotten a hit, like he was like one

1228
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 4: for June or something. It was really bad, my gosh

1229
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 4: or something crazy. Maybe I'm exaggerating.

1230
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,959
Speaker 1: I was leading because Elin needs to check off mister

1231
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: who wins that one?

1232
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 2: I think Kevin probably wins it.

1233
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 4: I'm already no, I don't think.

1234
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 3: I don't think getting up. I don't even know who

1235
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 3: Elvis Alvarado is.

1236
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 5: I can't lie no, because I already got Villa Lobos.

1237
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 5: He's off, he deserves a check mark.

1238
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 4: And then oh yeah, I didn't.

1239
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 6: I didn't fully update this year, Rightio Lobos did get

1240
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 6: his check mark, even though he's not he's actually not

1241
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 6: in the organization anymore.

1242
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 3: With Detroit Detroit, I mean pitching staff wise, mon Verde

1243
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 3: maybe up there next week.

1244
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1245
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 2: With the with the pace there on. I was just

1246
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: looking at Roster Resource.

1247
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 3: They got four names in the in the Marlins rotation,

1248
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 3: and three of them like.

1249
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: Are already a reach. So we might be bad up there.

1250
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: For sure, already, we're gonna we're gonna wrap it up here.

1251
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: We had a fifty four minutes great conversation with you, Arm.

1252
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Make sure to check on Arm

1253
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: at Just Baseball Show. You can also check out his

1254
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: prospects podcast, The Call Up, which is amazing. Definitely too

1255
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: into that highly suggested Alarm. Thank you so much for

1256
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: hopping on from Isaac for me by myself. We'll see

1257
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: you guys all in two weeks. Peace out and go Fish.