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Speaker 1: The scandal has frozen the town. This kind of thing

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Speaker 1: happens in Hollywood once a decade. There have been guys

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Speaker 1: who have decorated their tables with hookers and felt totally

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Speaker 1: unimpeachable about it for years. If it's true they financed

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Speaker 1: it with development money, they deserved us wet for a while.

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Speaker 1: Julia Phillips, producer.

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Speaker 2: I haven't spoken to Heidi Fly since sometime.

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Speaker 3: Call my press agent, Robert Evans producer.

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Speaker 4: Heidie Flies is a family friend of Robert Evans, Robert

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Speaker 4: Evans press agent.

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Speaker 5: She's a casual friend.

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Speaker 4: I'm not in her social loop. Elliott Mince talent manager.

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Speaker 6: I have never used to professional services, and God knows

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Speaker 3: Fortunately, I've never had to pay for sex.

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Speaker 4: Billy Idle Wednesday.

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Speaker 7: Billy Idol has met Heidi Flies, but doesn't know her well.

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Speaker 7: There may have been sex, but there wasn't commerce. Billy

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Speaker 7: Idol's publicist. We knew each other pretty well. Frankly, I

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Speaker 7: had a little romantic interest in Heidi at one time,

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Speaker 7: but she's sort of a businesswoman. I haven't seen her

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Speaker 7: in months. I got a scoodattle now. Bob Crow Texas

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Speaker 7: real Estate.

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Speaker 8: Air and again she is a mental case and she

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Speaker 8: does drugs. But there's one thing you can't take.

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Speaker 9: Away from Heidi.

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Speaker 8: She was very good. And she sat at home and

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Speaker 8: she answered those phones, and she sent those girls out,

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Speaker 8: and she worked, which she built up she really deserves

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Speaker 8: because she worked very hard at it. Julie Conister rival, Madam.

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Speaker 10: Talk to my lawyer.

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Speaker 11: Am.

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Speaker 12: My client is a virtual prisoner in her house since

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Speaker 12: the publicity started in this matter. Anthony Brooklier, Heidie Flie's

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Speaker 12: defense attorney.

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Speaker 4: Previously on Heidi World, Heidi's high end escort empire has

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Speaker 4: come crashing down, bringing her life in the fast lane

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Speaker 4: to a screeching halt at a frightening crossroads. Welcome to

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Speaker 4: Heidi World, Chapter six. Media Frenzy. The Heidi Fly scandal

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Speaker 4: breaks wide in the media, making Heidi the most famous

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Speaker 4: Nineteen ninety three, nineteen ninety four, Welcome back to Heidie World.

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Speaker 4: I'm your host, Mollie Lambert. It's August of nineteen ninety

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Speaker 4: three and accused Hollywood Madam Heidie Flies is now the

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Speaker 4: center of a national media maelstrom. What began as a

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Speaker 4: local story in Los Angeles has crossed into the mainstream

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Speaker 4: and everyone wants a piece of Heidi. While Heidie liked

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Speaker 4: the attention and notoriety that came with being a high

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Speaker 4: end madam, she is not prepared for the onslaught of

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Speaker 4: media attention that she is suddenly on the receiving end of.

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Speaker 4: But Heidi Flice is rating's gold. Her arraignment is watched

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Speaker 4: by one out of every four people who's watching TV

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Speaker 4: at the time that it's on. When a woman openly

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Speaker 4: seeks attention, whether for her sex appeal or smarts, or

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Speaker 4: in Heidie's case, both, the media sometimes decides to attention

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Speaker 4: her to death, as if to say, this is what

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Speaker 4: you wanted, right. Heidi is completely freaked out about her

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Speaker 4: trial and the narrative has spun completely out of her control.

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Speaker 4: People are selling her out left and right for their

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Speaker 4: tabloid cut. August tenth, nineteen ninety three, Heidi appears at

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Speaker 4: the courtroom and gets mobbed by paparazzi, who nearly knock

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Speaker 4: her to the ground in her spike heeled pumps, dark sunglasses,

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Speaker 4: guilty to five counts of pandering and one count of

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Speaker 4: cocaine possession. Heidi exits out the backstairwell into her lawyer,

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Speaker 4: Anthony Brooklyer's black BMW. Since Heidi won't talk, the press

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Speaker 4: descend on her friends, Victoria Sellers and Benita Money, who

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Speaker 4: have come out to support her. The media imply that

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Speaker 4: Heidi loves all the press attention, but according to Heidi,

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Speaker 4: every waking moment with the paparazzi following her was a nightmare.

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Speaker 13: I was like almost trampled to death. There was a

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Speaker 13: Cameras were swooping in under face. Someone was pulling my hair.

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Speaker 13: I was panicked. I thought someone was going to pull

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Speaker 12: I was prepared to make a statement, but they treated

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Speaker 12: my client with no respect. I'm just returning the favor.

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Speaker 4: The first story about the Heidi Fly scandal in the

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Speaker 4: La Times runs August first. By August twelfth, people are

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Speaker 4: in the early nineties. In nineteen ninety, the LAPD were

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Speaker 4: LA Riots or uprisings, where the over policed and harassed

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Speaker 4: It was an echo of the nineteen sixty five Watts Rebellion,

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Speaker 4: News coverage of the LA Riots focused entirely on the

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Speaker 4: and racism that led to the uprisings and lootings. The

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Speaker 4: and what came to bury them tabloid news. In nineteen

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Speaker 4: Room Television TV, better known as court TV. Court TV

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Speaker 4: TV starts airing the Lyle and Eric Menendez trial, causing

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Speaker 4: a local sensation, the court TV coverage made it national news.

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Speaker 4: Court TV also allowed the story to take on a

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Speaker 4: the Heidi Fly story breaks in nineteen ninety three, every

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Speaker 4: newspaper and local news channel starts running NonStop coverage, pouring

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Speaker 4: over every new salacious detail, neglecting other more serious stories

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Speaker 4: the rebuilding of LA after the riots, corruption and racism

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Speaker 4: the LA Times, which has been printing LAPD's propaganda since

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Speaker 4: here to talk about heidiflies and to make the LAPD

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Speaker 4: is not a violent criminal, and even though she's a young,

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Speaker 4: LA folk hero, sort of like OJ Simpson, although their

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Speaker 4: crimes are very different. Somebody who serves as a walking

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Speaker 4: of the LAPD. Heidi has a lot of people rooting

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Speaker 4: for her to beat the entrenched system that is racist,

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Speaker 13: If you listen to what everyone says about you, then

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Speaker 4: So Heidi does what any sudden vice lord media superstar

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Speaker 4: talks to Variety in an adversarial interview where she ends

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Speaker 4: who writes most of the Time's Heidi coverage and develops

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Speaker 4: She notes that Heidi got a facial, a haircut, and

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Speaker 5: Sex cells.

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Speaker 4: On August thirteenth, the LAPD launched one of their famous

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Speaker 4: police officers. She says those stories are nefarious gossip planted

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Speaker 5: It's not true.

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Speaker 2: I've had enough bad publicity in my career.

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Speaker 5: I don't need this.

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Speaker 2: I don't go out and party. I don't want to

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Speaker 4: Billy Idol decides to milk the press he gets for

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Speaker 4: being associated with Heidi and goes on Jay Leno to

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Speaker 3: Awesome. We used to go round a house and watch television. Eh,

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Speaker 14: I said I never paid for it.

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Speaker 4: By this point, the story has gone global. The Heidifly

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Speaker 4: who has brought Hollywood to its knees. Meanwhile, that woman,

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Speaker 4: Heidiflies feels utterly trapped, boxed in by the press and

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Speaker 13: I felt so bad that I snuck out at one

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Speaker 13: am on Monday night and wrote handwritten notes of apology

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Speaker 13: to all my neighbors, telling them how sorry I was

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Speaker 4: Even Pompadour Papers, the stationary brand she used for the notes,

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Speaker 4: gets in on the press and profits the designers Hawk

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Speaker 4: the Trumpeting Angel's notepad that Heidi used, which they sell

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Speaker 4: at trendy high end boutique fred Siegel Trumpeting Angels Stationary

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Speaker 4: becomes their number one sellar, and they want to send

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Speaker 4: Heidi a free pad to use at her trial. LAPD

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Speaker 4: Heidi Flei's trial because various LAPD spokespeople keep providing wildly

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Speaker 4: different stories. I always hear the Benny Hill music yackety

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Speaker 4: Heidi announces that she has found a fun and legal

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Speaker 4: Heidi faxes her designs to the La Times and tells

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Speaker 4: So Heidi, a brilliant marketing genius, says she's going to

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Speaker 13: I'll be wearing the stuff and I'll have on about

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Speaker 4: Hollywood Trade Gossip website does Line Hollywood. She talks to

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Speaker 4: Nicki Fink for Details Magazine and Fink's Heidi Fli's profile

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Speaker 14: I would just shoot myself.

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Speaker 2: I can't take it.

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Speaker 12: I'm being burned at the stake.

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Speaker 13: Everyone who wants to see me fail, They're killing me.

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Speaker 15: I'm dying every day.

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Speaker 12: H's something weirder.

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Speaker 13: Yesterday someone told me I was being charged with laundering

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Speaker 14: I'm going into hell.

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Speaker 4: Nicki Fink sits for hours of conversations with flices and

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Speaker 4: the media hype, the reputed glamour, and the five thousand

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Speaker 4: tale of immorality, it may be as follows, Young girls,

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Speaker 4: Fink is the first to name Yvonne naj as the

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Speaker 4: Why did Heidi get busted now and not earlier or later.

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Speaker 13: There were ten girls in my house practically crying, saying

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Speaker 13: That's what I said, and I really mean it too.

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Speaker 4: Also in October, Heidi's best friend Victoria Sellers, is arranged

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Speaker 4: note for Heidi in her mailbox saying if she wanted,

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Speaker 4: he'd be happy to build her a gate that would

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00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 4: provide her some more privacy. Heidi thought it might be

434
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 4: a trap, but called and asked Michael to send to

435
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 4: his portfolio. She told him that paparazzi and tabloid TV

436
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 4: reporters had breached her driveway and walked all the way

437
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 4: back into her yard, sabotaging her with cameras by the pool.

438
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 4: So Michael designs a gate that both blocks the hordes

439
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 4: and scares them a little.

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00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 13: What impresses me is that he is self taught and

441
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 13: works in so many mediums. He uses stone, steel, wood,

442
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 13: It's amazing.

443
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 4: The finish gate is called as beautiful as it is dangerous.

444
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 4: A metal pattern of vinework and leaves is legitimately sharp

445
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 4: and would injure someone trying to climb over. It's also

446
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 4: tall enough to stop anyone from being able to look

447
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 4: over it. Flyes likes the gate so much she commissions

448
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 4: follow ups from Michael, including a wishing Well garden feature.

449
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 4: Russell Michael seems like a bit of a hustler himself.

450
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 4: He likes the press and free publicity. In association with

451
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 4: Heidi fly Springs, his biggest venture to date as a

452
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 4: sculptor is a fake stone replica of Rome's famous Trevi

453
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 4: fountain for a restaurant in the wealthy West Valley suburb

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00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 4: of Woodland Hills. While her clients are running from the

455
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 4: very mention of her name, everyone else in La and

456
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 4: the whole country is chasing heidieflies. The story has everything

457
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 4: a tabloid could ever want sex, drugs, money, powerful people,

458
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 4: and big institutions. The Heidi Fly's story is, to put it,

459
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 4: bluntly sexy and there's no death involved, although the media

460
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 4: starts sniffing around instantly for deaths that they can blame

461
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 4: on Heidi and therefore on the very idea of prostitution.

462
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 4: By this point, Heid and the news media are twin flames.

463
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 4: She is set on getting her story out there herself.

464
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 4: She even knows that a lot of people are rooting

465
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 4: for her. After all, the LAPD uprisings didn't exactly make

466
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 4: the LAPD look like the hero cops they think of

467
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 4: themselves as, and busting a nice young businesswoman like Heidi

468
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 4: Flies doesn't make them look great either. And if there's

469
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 4: one place that Heidi can out game the LAPD's longtime

470
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 4: connection to The La Times, it's on the other news

471
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 4: media outlets that she can control. So Heidi of course

472
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 4: books another interview with the Woman of the Hour herself,

473
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 4: her biggest one yet, an exclusive for Connie Chung at

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00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 4: CBS on November fourth at ten pm on I to

475
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 4: Ie with Connie Chung. The La Times finds ways to

476
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 4: endlessly spin content out of the Heidi story even when

477
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 4: there's no new actual information to run. Much like the

478
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 4: nascent Court TV, it fills people's appetites for a constant

479
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 4: stream of content. They run a story about how the

480
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 4: success of nineteen nineties Pretty Women led to a bumper

481
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 4: crop of movies about prostitutes being developed. Pretty Woman is

482
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 4: a movie starring Richard Gear as a handsome businessman who

483
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 4: hires a beautiful Hollywood hooker for the night and turns

484
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 4: her into a high class lady Pygmalion style. It was

485
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 4: originally supposed to be a serious drama about prostitution, and

486
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 4: then became a Gary Marshall project and turned into a

487
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 4: mostly light romantic comedy about two very hot people, one

488
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 4: of whom happens to be a sex worker, falling in love. Now,

489
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 4: as we know, by this point, aspects of this story

490
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 4: were not too far removed from reality. There were rich

491
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 4: business men hiring women to pose as high class dates.

492
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 4: Don Simpson in particular was known for hiring Heidi girls

493
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 4: and telling his friends they were brain surgeons. Pretty Women

494
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 4: is produced by Regency International Pictures and Disney's adult film

495
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 4: Shingle Touchstone Pictures, and distributed by Disney's Buena Vista Studio

496
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 4: now just a rabbit hole for fun. One of Pretty

497
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 4: Women's producers, arn And Milchahn of Regency, was allegedly an

498
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 4: Israeli intelligence agent and nuclear arms dealer before he became

499
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 4: a producer. Besides the second generational stuff, another fun aspect

500
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 4: of the Heidi story is how many people in Hollywood

501
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 4: have crazy backstories like this. So Arnan Milchahn worked for

502
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 4: lek M, which was an Israeli military intelligence agency. He

503
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 4: got roped in with the nuclear arms dealing stuff when

504
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 4: a guy named Richard Kelly Smith got busted buying something

505
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 4: called crytron through Milchand's company Milco. As far as I

506
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 4: a person who knows very little about nuclear science can tell,

507
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 4: a criytron is something like a doomsday switch that can

508
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 4: be used to trigger perfectly harmless things, but is better

509
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 4: known for igniting exploding bridgewire and slapper detonators in nuclear weapons.

510
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,479
Speaker 4: Richard Kelly Smith allegedly helped arn And Milchhn uggle eight

511
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 4: hundred and ten crytrons to Israel in the nineteen eighties.

512
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 4: Four hundred and sixty nine were returned to America, and

513
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 4: Israel said the other three hundred and forty one were

514
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 4: quote destroyed in testing. Milchahn didn't confirm publicly that he

515
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 4: had been inn Israeli asset until twenty thirteen, when it

516
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 4: was all documented in a book called Confidential, The Life

517
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,719
Speaker 4: of secret Agent turned Hollywood Tycoon, about Arnin Milchon that

518
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 4: mostly seems pretty impressed with him. In the meantime, Milchin's

519
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 4: production company, Regency, made some of my favorite movies of

520
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 4: all time, including Martin Scorsesees The King of Comedy, Oliver

521
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 4: Stone's JFK, and Curtis Hanson's Ali Confidential. He's also still

522
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 4: alive and producing movies. Most recently he co produced The

523
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 4: northmand I know the joke of the mobster who gets

524
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 4: into movies is done a lot, but it's honestly so

525
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 4: funny that this guy may have come to La just

526
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 4: to smuggle some nuclear weapons to Israel and ended up

527
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 4: a super successful producer who made a bunch of great

528
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 4: movies Fucking Hollywood, And which leads me to the question,

529
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 4: is Richard Gear playing Jeffrey Epstein in the movie Pretty Woman.

530
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 4: Pretty Woman's original ending was supposed to have Gear's character

531
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 4: throwing the Julia Roberts character out of the car, and

532
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 4: it became a Cinderella story fairy tale about a sex

533
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 4: worker falling in love with her John Heidi Mania hits

534
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 4: right as Disney is trying to move forward with Pretty

535
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 4: Woman Too. Also mentioned is a movie being developed at

536
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Speaker 4: Disney's other production Shingle Hollywood Pictures, called Sexual Healing by

537
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 4: none other than Don Simpson and Jerry Bruckheimer, a thriller

538
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 4: about a high class call girl in the world of Washington.

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Speaker 7: D C.

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Speaker 12: Captain Glenn Ackerman has publicly announced that the Los Angeles

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Speaker 12: Police Department has no intention of prosecuting the male customers

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00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 12: of Ms.

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Speaker 9: Fliss.

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Speaker 12: This official position, while certainly comforting to males who would

545
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 12: otherwise be prosecuted, smacks of a boys club mentality, which

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00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 12: which can have no place if equal protection of the

547
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 12: law is to have real meaning.

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00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 4: November third, nineteen ninety three, Heidi tries to get the

549
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 4: pandering charges against her dismissed on the grounds that the

550
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 4: LAPD unfairly target sex workers but not their customers. Heidie's lawyer,

551
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 4: Anthony Brookler more on him later files a motion with

552
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 4: Assistant District Attorney Alan Carter, contending that Flis was set

553
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 4: up in a sting and should be charged with attempted pandering,

554
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 4: not pandering itself. November seventeenth, the paparazzi camp out all

555
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 4: day Monday waiting for Heidi to appear, so she shows

556
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 4: up Tuesday the seventeenth instead. When no cameras are lurking

557
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 4: in wait, she sneaks into the courthouse through the stairwell entrance,

558
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 4: taking the stairs up to the thirteenth floor, and appears

559
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 4: before a superior Court judge whose name is astoundingly Judge

560
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 4: Judith L. Champagne. She gets the pre trial hearing post

561
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 4: par from that week to December third. Also that week,

562
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 4: a Heidiflis inspired plotline begins airing on the Fox nighttime

563
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 4: soap opera melrose Place, the greatest TV show ever made.

564
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 4: Melro's Place was a spin off of Beverly Hills nine

565
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 4: two to one to O about a group of gen

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00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 4: X sexy singles and one couple living in a bungalow

567
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 4: core apartment building in La Like nine O two one oh,

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00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 4: it started as a down to Earth's social issues show

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00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 4: with episodes about the La Riots, and then increasingly went

570
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 4: off the rails. The show's second season was a different,

571
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 4: sluttier animal from the first in which they introduced Heather

572
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 4: Locklear as a girl, boss bitch and the show's signature

573
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 4: hat fights by the pool. I love this show because

574
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 4: it has two different types of crazy redheads Marsha Cross

575
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 4: as crazy type A doctor Kimberly Shaw and Laura Layton

576
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 4: as Sydney Andrews, a chaos demon. All you need to

577
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 4: know about Sydney is that she immediately tries to seduce

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00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 4: her sister's husband. So Sidney, of course gets the high

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00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 4: Fli's plot line, which the writers put on the show

580
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 4: as a ripped from the headline attempt to lure viewers.

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00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 4: Sydney is approached by a fellow waitress played by Gina Gershaan,

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Speaker 4: who invites her to meet a woman named Lauren Ethridge,

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Speaker 4: who it turns out runs a high end escort ring.

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00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 4: Sydney becomes an escort and immediately gets busted and goes

585
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 4: to jail. It's a pretty brief plot line, but it

586
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 4: did serve its intended purpose of bolstering the show's ratings,

587
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 4: leading the show towards more and more sordid stunt plot lines.

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00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 4: The Heidi effect is strong. December third, the pre trial

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00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 4: hearing Heidie stays home while her attorney, Anthony Brookleer makes

590
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 4: his argument that Heidi is being discriminated against due to sexism.

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00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 4: He cites the comments that LIPD gave to the media

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00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 4: about how they have no intention of going after any

593
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 4: of Heidie's customers, just Heidi and her girls. He also

594
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 4: cites a rarely used eighty eight year old law against

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00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 4: paying money or any other valuable thing for any person

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00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 4: for the purpose of prostitution. Glenn Ackerman testifies that he

597
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 4: can't think of a single time that a prostitute's customer

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00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 4: was charged with a felony. He can only remember busting

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00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 4: John's on misdemeanors. When people who live near street prostitution

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00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 4: areas complained about the noise, Ackerman says they've never arrested

601
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 4: a single customer of a high end call girl or

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00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 4: escort service. Ackerman also says the nineteen oh five statute

603
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 4: invoked by Brooklier is known as the uh White Slave

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00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 4: Law and is intended only for prosecuting sex traffickers. Deputy

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00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 4: District Attorney Alan Carter raises the possibility of filing charges

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00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 4: against some of Heidi's male clients, which would also make

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00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 4: the John's names public Judge Judith L. Champagne denies Brooklyer's

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00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 4: motion to get Heidie's charges reduced from pandering to attempted

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00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 4: pandering on the grounds that she was a victim of

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Speaker 4: a police sting. The hearing is continued to December seventeenth,

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00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 4: while the cops scrambled to see if anyone has ever

612
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 4: been charged for purchasing sex, not just for selling it.

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00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 4: After the trial, Carter admits he isn't sure if it's

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Speaker 4: possible legally to prosecute the Johns, and hasn't run the

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00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 4: idea by his boss, District Attorney Gil Garcetti, who is yes,

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Speaker 4: the father of La Faalsn Mayor Eric Garcetti. December fourth,

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00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 4: Heidi makes another public appearance, and this time it's not

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00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 4: even at the Beverly Hilton. It's at a different hotel,

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00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 4: the Bonaventure in downtown La a seventies postmodern building that

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00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 4: was the backdrop for a recent fenty Savage lingerie fashion show.

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Speaker 4: Heidi is there, for, of all things, a classic rock

622
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 4: station's yearly rock expo, where vendors are selling rock and

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00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,959
Speaker 4: roll memorabilia and records from the archives of radio station

624
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 4: came at FM, along celebrities doing autograph signings. Heidi is

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00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 4: one of the celebrities signing headshots for her fans, alongside

626
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 4: rock stars like Mick Fleetwood, George Thoroughgood, and Kenny Loggins.

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00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 4: And yes, I found getdy images of this that I

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00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 4: will post on the Patreon When Heidie World returns. Three

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Speaker 4: Los Angeles escorts tell all, welcome back to Heidi World.

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Speaker 4: December thirteenth, nineteen ninety three.

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Speaker 5: It isn't just oh. I never thought it would end

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00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 5: this way. I never thought it would end Marilyn, former

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00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 5: Heidi Girl.

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Speaker 4: On December thirteenth, The La Times runs a triple profile

635
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 4: of three call girls, two of whom are Heidi Girls.

636
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 4: Sean Hubler talks to a twenty three year old Heidi

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Speaker 4: Girl who will call Marilyn, a breathy blonde in a

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00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 4: short pink Gingham dress who smokes Capri cigarettes. Marilyn came

639
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 4: to LA with dreams of acting and may well leave

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00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 4: with nothing but her pink scrap book of her days

641
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 4: as a fifteen hundred dollars an hour Heidi Girl. She

642
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 4: has blown through the twelve thousand dollars she kept hidden

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00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 4: in a teddy bear since Heidi got busted. She's been

644
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 4: questioned by police and tailed by reporters. She had told

645
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 4: her parents that Heidi was her acting agent, so when

646
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 4: Heidi appeared on the cover of People as the sex

647
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 4: broker to the Stars, she tried calling to explain, but

648
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 4: her mother hung up on her. She's now trying to

649
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 4: turn her life story into a TV movie to cash

650
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 4: in on Heidi Mania.

651
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 5: It's going to be a two hour movie. Me lawyer's

652
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 5: setting it up. It'll say, based on a true story

653
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 5: of Hollywood.

654
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 4: Like so many beautiful girls from all over, Marilyn came

655
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 4: to Los Angeles to become a star. Instead, she found

656
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 4: herself working two jobs to afford Los Angeles while trying

657
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 4: to save up for acting lessons and make time for auditions.

658
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 4: By day, she worked as a secretary for an accountant

659
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 4: in the Valley for nine dollars an hour. At night,

660
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,479
Speaker 4: she was a waitress at the Rainbow Bar and Grill,

661
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 4: a notorious rockstar hangout on You Guessed It the Sunset Strip.

662
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 4: She dated her way through some musicians, but found it

663
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 4: hard to gain any traction in the entertainment industry. Marilyn

664
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 4: saves up four thousand dollars in cash tips from waitressing,

665
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 4: only to have it all stolen from her by a

666
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 4: sketchy roommate. So when a Rainbow customer asks if she

667
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 4: wants to meet his friend, Heidi Flice, who she has

668
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 4: already heard tale of, she says yes.

669
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 5: At the time, I had no money and no place

670
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 5: to go. I'd never been on my own before. I

671
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 5: never dream liked be so hard.

672
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 4: Heidi approves of her and invites Marilyn to move into

673
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 4: the Tower Grove mansion with her and the other girls.

674
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 4: After a few months in Heidi's ritualistic cool nineties girl makeover,

675
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 4: she sends Marilyn on her first out call.

676
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 5: It was exciting. He was me and one other girl.

677
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 5: We went to Paris for a week with an Arab

678
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 5: prince who took us shopping at Chanel.

679
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 4: Marilyn thinks she has a better chance of breaking into

680
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 4: the entertainment industry this way than just by auditioning, and

681
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 4: soon enough, she's at a Christmas party with a producer

682
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 4: who introduces her to his friends as a member of

683
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 4: his bowling team. A businessman from Hong Kong asks for

684
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 4: a year long contract to make her his mistress. One

685
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 4: real estate guy gives her four K for one night.

686
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 4: Working for Heidi Flie, she discovers is a form of networking.

687
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 4: She meets everyone in the entertainment industry, trade writers, agents,

688
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 4: more rock stars, and if you can take yet another

689
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 4: colorful character in this story whose tie span Hollywood. In

690
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 4: the underworld, she is also introduced to a guy named

691
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 4: Vince Kanti. Vince Kanti is a photographer and actor, best

692
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 4: known for playing Sergeant Rizzo on the cop show Kojak.

693
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 4: Shortly before Heidi was busted, the sixty three year old

694
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 4: Kanti copped felony pandering charges of his own and was

695
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 4: sentenced to three years. Kanti was not a pimp per se,

696
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 4: but he was an arranger of mutually beneficial sexual transactions.

697
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 4: The cut was not in cash, but favors. He would

698
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 4: introduce a rich European to some nice young women who

699
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 4: liked rich old men, and return, the rich guy would

700
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 4: set him up with a photography studio in Beverly Hills.

701
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 4: Vince Kanti, like Yvonne naj, knows people in both Hollywood

702
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 4: and the world of vice and is able to parlay

703
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 4: his connections between the two worlds into personal influence that

704
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 4: benefits him.

705
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: You know, look, I run in a pretty good eschalon

706
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 2: of people. I got pretty girls around all the time.

707
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 7: They come to my studio, I say, Joe, say hello

708
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 7: to Mary Hann What can senting adults do?

709
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 14: I got no control over that, Vince Kanti.

710
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 4: Kanti claims in an interview that he sets up his

711
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 4: good friends with aspiring actresses for no reason other than

712
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 4: to be a good guy. His photography portfolio includes the

713
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 4: likes of Michelle Pfeiffer Cher and Demi Moore. And again,

714
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 4: I urge you to read Demi Moore's book for more

715
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 4: on this time period. So Kanti introduces our girl Marylyn

716
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 4: to a European dignitary and a former California politician. But

717
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 4: escor doesn't really help her book any acting other than

718
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 4: some bit parts. But who needs an acting career when

719
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 4: your side gig is going this well. Marilyn wakes up

720
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 4: at noon and goes to bed at four am on

721
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 4: a handful of downers to quell the night's cocaine. She

722
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 4: uses names like Tiffany and Sheena with clients, earning enough

723
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 4: cash to drop a grand on one dress if she desires.

724
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 4: But escorting is a gig to gig job, much like

725
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 4: acting or virtually every job now, so there would be

726
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 4: dry periods where Marilyn booked no work. When she tried

727
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 4: to book work without Heidi through her own connections, she

728
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 4: ended up in some bad situations, like the Palm Springs

729
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 4: date with a pro wrestling producer who promised her and

730
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 4: a friend five thousand dollars and a quarter ounce of cocaine,

731
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 4: only to pay them with a check that immediately bounced.

732
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 4: When they tried confronting his wife at her house, she

733
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 4: just laughed at them and said her husband had been

734
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 4: broke for years. Two of the girls in the La

735
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 4: Times piece asked to be anonymous. The third girl is

736
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 4: Brandy McClain.

737
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 14: People always expect some girl with like red lipstick and

738
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 14: bleach blonde hair, sekun dress and spiked pumps. But it's

739
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 14: a misconception. I don't even own a pair of spike pumps,

740
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 14: Brandy McClain.

741
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 4: Sean Hubler describes Brandy as athletic and muscular, wearing a

742
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 4: cutoff tea, running shorts, and wire rimmed sunglasses, offering the

743
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 4: reporter some of her vegetarian casseroles she made when they

744
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 4: meet up at her San Diego apartment. Brandy McLain has

745
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 4: decided to flip on Heidi, even though she was never

746
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 4: charged after being taken into custody at the Beverly Hilton Bust.

747
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 4: McLain is not angry at Heidi. She tells Hubler how

748
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 4: she decided to get into Heidie's game.

749
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 14: I was living in New York working with a florists

750
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 14: two years ago, and there was this girl I ran

751
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 14: with a Central Park and she always seemed to have money,

752
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 14: and she had beautiful furniture. I thought, how does she

753
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 14: do it? I mean she was in nursing school. Well,

754
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 14: one day she told me, and like I never would

755
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 14: have guessed.

756
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 4: Sad wealthy friend introduced Brandy to Heidi. Heidi told Brandy

757
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 4: what the work entailed, assuring her that everything would be

758
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 4: on the up and up, rich clients, no weirdos. She

759
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 4: signed up and in a month was partying in Las

760
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 4: Vegas with a rich, middle aged man.

761
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 14: It was like going on a weekend date, except it

762
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 14: was very lucrative.

763
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 4: Brandy, who was enrolled in a San Diego community college,

764
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 4: started driving up to La a couple times a month

765
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 4: to gig for Heidi. She says she did it just

766
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 4: enough to cover her rent. But there's also no denying.

767
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 4: She was drawn in by the more glamorous aspects of

768
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 4: being a Heidi girl. Brandy wanted to cash in on

769
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 4: her youthful, blonde, beach volleyball good looks, but was too

770
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 4: short for real modeling and uninterested in acting. She was

771
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 4: also not interested in a desk job nine to five lifestyle,

772
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 4: and she was very beautiful, if too skinny. For some

773
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 4: of Heidi's richest clients from overseas.

774
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 14: There were kids of celebrities, trust fund babies, one European billionaire.

775
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 14: Usually I would meet them at their house, that is

776
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 14: the house their wives weren't it, and we'd go to

777
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 14: dinner Nikki Blairs or Spago or bistro, then maybe a

778
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 14: club and then back to the house and then we'll

779
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 14: whatever have sex. Do what you want, what they want.

780
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 4: While Brandy McLain was not an actress, she knew how

781
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 4: to play her role. On these dates, she'd pretend to

782
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 4: be floored by the john's gold records or wildly impressed

783
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 4: by their oscar. The trick would introduce her to their

784
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 4: friends as his assistant or girlfriend. These men didn't just

785
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 4: want transactional sex behind closed doors. They wanted arm candy

786
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 4: to show off in public. They craved the girlfriend experience,

787
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 4: probably because they'd all been losers in high school. In Hollywood,

788
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 4: the land of fantasy, these men were paying for the

789
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 4: fantasy that a beautiful, fun, sexy young girl like Brandy

790
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 4: MacLean would ever want to hang out with them if

791
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 4: there wasn't money involved. But Brandy was in it for

792
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 4: something else.

793
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 14: Money. You tell me one job, or you can make

794
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 14: fifteen hundred an hour one job. A doctor doesn't make

795
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 14: that much, A lawyer twice a month and there you go.

796
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 14: Your bills are paid. Besides, anybody can get a job

797
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 14: at like the Limited. But how many girls could keep

798
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 14: a billionaire interested? I did?

799
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 4: Sean Hubler then hits the pantry diner to talk with

800
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 4: a call girl, who she gives the pseudonym Leanne. Leanne

801
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 4: is not a Heidi Girl. She's a thirty five year

802
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 4: old escort who's been in the business since she was

803
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 4: twenty nine. Leanne reached out to the press when they

804
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 4: were speculating about the death of a woman presumed to

805
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 4: be a prostitute and Heidi Girl because she wanted to

806
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 4: tell the press that there was no away that the

807
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 4: dead girl knew Heidi and This is probably about Lori Dolan.

808
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 9: As with anything else, there are echelons in this business.

809
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 9: God I've slept with the masses. Leanne.

810
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 4: Leanne works a lower rung than Heidie's girls the middle

811
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 4: four hundred dollars an hour for mostly older businessmen and

812
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 4: a few former politicians, with a three hour minimum for

813
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 4: a local date. She specializes in charging the service to

814
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 4: her client's corporate credit cards and making it look plausible

815
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 4: that they'd just been a few hundred bucks on a

816
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 4: legitimate work expense. Leanne also specializes in appearing as an

817
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 4: age appropriate escort for older men, a woman in pearls

818
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 4: and sweater sets that one might mistake for a rich

819
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 4: man's wife. But beneath the sweater sets lie her secrets,

820
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 4: and her clientele is not so different from Heidie's. Aging

821
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 4: rock stars are a perennial client pool. She talks of

822
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 4: playing doctor with doctors, getting double teamed by comedy teams,

823
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 4: and of the many powerful men with secretive private lives

824
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 4: where they like to wear silk slips or get tied

825
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 4: up and spanked. One movie producer in particular, pays her

826
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 4: to dress him up as Ava Gardner and compliment him.

827
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 4: Oh ava you look wonderful tonight.

828
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 9: Oh, you learn more about men than you would ever

829
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 9: need to know for the rest of your life.

830
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 4: Leanne's labors met her and estimated three hundred thousand dollars

831
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 4: a year, which buy her a house in the San

832
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 4: Fernando Valley with a pool, a jacuzzi, and a vegetable garden.

833
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 4: Unlike Heidi, she purposely keeps a low profile. She bought

834
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 4: her mom a new car, but she mostly doesn't splash

835
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 4: out on expensive stuff. The money is great, but she

836
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 4: does feel like her job makes it harder to date people.

837
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 4: Men will say they can handle her occupation, then reveal

838
00:51:58,400 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 4: that they actually can't.

839
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 9: They say they love you, but when it comes time

840
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 9: to end the relationship, they're the first ones to turn

841
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 9: around and say, you fucking whore.

842
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 4: But she doesn't regret her choice. What's so great about

843
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 4: regular old transactional heterosexuality anyway?

844
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 15: Do you know how many women are going to El

845
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 15: Toito on a Friday or Saturday night and giving it

846
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 15: away for three or four Margarita's Whereas I can go

847
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 15: for a couple of hours, collect my money, stop at

848
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 15: whatever restaurant I want on my way home, decide who

849
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 15: I want to sit across from and what I want.

850
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 14: To eat, and not put up with anybody's shit.

851
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 4: The story then returns to Marylyn showing Sean Hubler what's

852
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 4: in the pink scrap book pictures of her at nightclubs,

853
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 4: partying with friends in Las Vegas with Brandy MacLean. She

854
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 4: asks Hubler if she wants to see a home video

855
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 4: that she made at Heidie's Tower Grove mansion. Hubler, of

856
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 4: course says sure and watches as Marilyn pops in her

857
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 4: videotape of home movies from Heidie's house. In one, she

858
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 4: gives a tour of the mansion while wearing an azidin

859
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 4: Elia cat suit, the girl's favorite designer. There's some footage

860
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 4: from last Christmas, including a bathrobe to Charlie Sheen giving

861
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 4: his holiday regards to one of the girl's mothers. Sheen's

862
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 4: publicist says the video was made as a favor for

863
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 4: a woman whose mother had cancer, and that Charlie Sheen

864
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 4: had no idea whether the women were call girls. He

865
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 4: didn't ask and they didn't tell. The profile ends on

866
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 4: a bittersweet note, with Marilyn telling Sean Hubler how she's

867
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 4: become afraid to fall asleep next to a man. When

868
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 4: things go badly like they did in Palm Springs or

869
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 4: now with Heidie busted, she can get to wondering where

870
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 4: her life is going. She has a moment of realization

871
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 4: seeing a former client in public at an apartment store

872
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 4: called the Broadway. She locks eyes with the on who

873
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 4: is there with his wife and child, and wonders if

874
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 4: anyone loves honestly.

875
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 5: It leaves you wondering, what's it really like to, you know,

876
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 5: make love? What's it like not to put on an act?

877
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 11: It's nice to.

878
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 5: Have someone in treach with respect and buy you things

879
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 5: and take you for riots and his ferrari to siosa.

880
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 5: But he catches up with you emotionally.

881
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 4: You can't help but see the larger news angle creeping

882
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 4: in here again, aiming to make prostitution seem not only

883
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 4: a moral but bad for the soul. It seems silly

884
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 4: even in this context, because the clearly stated reasons for

885
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 4: Marilyn's bad experiences were a booking on her own and

886
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 4: b Heidi getting busted not because she posed any danger

887
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 4: to anyone, but as a statement on the morality of prostitution,

888
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 4: a profession that is older than dirt, but always inside

889
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 4: some morel panic in America. It feels like Marilyn and

890
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 4: the reader are led towards the conclusion of oh, but

891
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 4: this is bad because the La Times cannot allow the

892
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 4: jump to the natural conclusion that sex work is fine.

893
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 4: The issue is criminalization and the Puritan insistence in America

894
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 4: that this doesn't happen here. December nineteenth, nineteen ninety three,

895
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 4: Madame Alex lists her West Hollywood house, already a downgrade

896
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 4: from Casa Pussy and Beverly Hills, and her Malibu mansion.

897
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 4: Since being forced out of Madaming by her nineteen ninety

898
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 4: one pandering conviction, Alex has used her managerial skills to

899
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 4: start a catering business, but catering hasn't taken off quite

900
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 4: like sex did, so Alex is forced to sell her cottage,

901
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 4: which was built in nineteen twenty four. December twenty third,

902
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety three, Heidi goes to the press on her

903
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 4: own ish terms again to be on the cover of

904
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 4: Esquire magazine's yearly dubie Ya's Achievements Awards issue. The Dubious

905
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 4: Achievements Awards were a running gag in Esquire, with funny,

906
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 4: mean joke items about public figures given to various public

907
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 4: figures every year from nineteen sixty two until they were

908
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 4: discontinued in two thousand and one after September eleventh. Dubious

909
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 4: Achievements was such a hit that it basically paved the

910
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,760
Speaker 4: way for other good snotty, mean funny magazines like National,

911
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 4: Lampoon and Spy. The connection is the house style of

912
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 4: Quippi insidery, sometimes very mean writing about notable people. You

913
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 4: will recognize this style from the Internet, where it is

914
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 4: now the house style for everything. So Heidi appears on

915
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 4: the cover of Esquire doing a parody of a super

916
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 4: famous photo of Janet Jackson that appeared on the cover

917
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 4: of Rolling Stone, where Janet is topless in half unbuttoned

918
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 4: jeans with her breasts being cupped from behind by her

919
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 4: then husband Rene Elizondo, who is out of frame. It

920
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 4: was a very sensational photo the time and spawned a

921
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 4: million parodies. In the Esquire Paroity cover, Heidi flies is topless,

922
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 4: staring right at the camera. Her jenes rolled down to

923
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 4: reveal some hidiwear boxer shorts, and her breasts are being

924
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 4: grasped from behind by hands one of which wears a

925
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 4: signature white glove. The cover line is Heidi and Michael

926
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 4: Who Knew? Surrounded by smaller images with jokes about Barney

927
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 4: the Dinosaur, Fabio and John Wayne Bobbitt Ah nineteen ninety three.

928
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 4: Once again, Heidi is showing us that she is in

929
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 4: on the joke. She is steering the narrative naturally towards

930
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 4: where it actually wants to go. Heidi is not a criminal.

931
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 4: She's a folk hero standing up to the corruption and

932
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 4: hypocrisy of LA's richest men and the disgusting police forces

933
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 4: that protect them. How are women working in the film

934
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 4: industry in Hollywood dealing with the fallout of the Heidi scandal?

935
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 4: Funny you asked. The Heidi Flies scandal exposes some of

936
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 4: the fault lines in the movie business, a boys club

937
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 4: of all boys clubs that in the early nineties is

938
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 4: supposedly opening doors for women. What does it mean to

939
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 4: find out that maybe Hollywood isn't actually as progressive as

940
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 4: it says it is, and that their male peers might

941
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 4: still see women primarily as objects to be bought and sold.

942
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 4: Is that why they want to make movies like pretty

943
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 4: Women or in decent Proposal, the Adrian Line directed movie

944
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,959
Speaker 4: where a broke couple played by Widdy Harrelson and Demi

945
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 4: Moore agree to let the girlfriend have sex with a

946
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 4: rich guy played by Robert Redford for a million dollars.

947
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 4: Indecent Proposal was a huge success in nineteen ninety three,

948
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 4: and while directed by Adrian Lyne, it was written and

949
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 4: developed by women. Are movies like this brave for depicting

950
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 4: sex workers as people with minds and hearts? Or do

951
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 4: men in Hollywood just think that all women are whores?

952
00:58:55,720 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 4: Here is a range of takes.

953
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: Guys really do feel more comfortable in the company of

954
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: hookers because that is how they see women. Julia Phillips, producer.

955
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 11: Honestly, I'm irritated that the only power in movies that

956
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 11: goes to women is sexual power.

957
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 5: In life, that's the only.

958
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 11: Power that men can easily give to women. I find

959
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 11: it very simplistic and a true stretch to think of

960
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 11: that as empowering women in any way. Meg Ryan, actor,

961
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 11: so this.

962
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 6: Is the year of the woman. Well, yes, this has

963
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 6: been a very good year for women to mean. Moore

964
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 6: was sold to Robert Redford for one million dollars. Uma

965
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,919
Speaker 6: Thurman went for forty thousand dollars to mister de Niro. Well,

966
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 6: just three years ago Richard gear bought Julia Roberts for

967
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 6: what was it, three thousand dollars. I'd say that was

968
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 6: real progress. Michelle Pfeiffer, actress at the Crystal Awards luncheon,

969
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 6: did the.

970
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 10: Mean more characters in control of her body, makes all

971
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 10: the decisions. She chooses to sleep with Robert Redford and

972
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 10: makes the decision Woody Harrelson doesn't do that to me.

973
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 10: That is what feminism is all about. Sherry Lansing, chief

974
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 10: of Paramount Pictures. See the problem with the movie, It's

975
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 10: a huge problem is if we don't do this rut,

976
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 10: It's like Woody' is the pimp and Demi's the hole.

977
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 3: Adrian Lyne director. Some male critics would like to dismiss

978
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 3: indecent proposal as sexis the Only thing that is sexist

979
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 3: is the critics themselves. They're clearly made uncomfortable by a

980
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 3: film in which a woman holds tremendous power over not one,

981
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 3: but two men, one of them is their husband. Powerful

982
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 3: women who do what they like with our bodies make

983
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 3: men like Kenneth Turan uncomfortable. Men are very emotional about sex.

984
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 3: Women are practical. Amy Holden Jones, screenwriter of Indecent Proposal.

985
01:00:57,880 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 7: If they ever make a movie where a man is

986
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 7: sexually arrest I'm there.

987
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 14: Gel Sharon Stone.

988
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 4: Actress, December thirtieth, nineteen ninety three. Heidi Turns twenty eight

989
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 4: years old December thirty first, nineteen ninety three. Yvonne Naj,

990
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 4: forced out of the escorting business for now at least,

991
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 4: also has a new venture technology. Naj is going full

992
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 4: throttle into the brand new field of CD ROMs, the

993
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 4: digital proto DVD technology that briefly ascended past floppy disks

994
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 4: in the early nineties. More specifically, he is trying to

995
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 4: break into the emerging space of CD rom erotica, a

996
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 4: sex leads all new forms of technology. He has a

997
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 4: new company called mac Daddy Entertainment.

998
01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 2: Look, this is mister Molta Media himself, the digitola of

999
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 2: cdram That is my new title.

1000
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 4: Macdaddy Entertainment's first release is a CD ROM called Heidie's Girls.

1001
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 4: The La Times piece says cd ROMs are compact discs

1002
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 4: that hold digital images, sound, graphics and text and play

1003
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 4: on devices hooked up to personal computers. While the consumer

1004
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 4: market for the shiny discs remains small, Ivan Naj believes

1005
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:28,439
Speaker 4: his product is sure to draw attention. The Heidi's Girl

1006
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 4: CD rum is a cachet of one hundred and fifty

1007
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 4: images of five women in lingerie at a fancy hotel.

1008
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 4: There is also a euro version that has the images

1009
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 4: with full nudity.

1010
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 2: It was only appropriate where else would you shoot a

1011
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 2: Heidi girl but in a hotel suite.

1012
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 4: Naj partnered on the project with Alan Adler, a computer

1013
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 4: programmer who worked at local camera store Sammy's Camera, running

1014
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 4: the digital images division after as Sammy's customers suggested the idea.

1015
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 4: Naj handled the photography end and Adler the digitization. The

1016
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 4: real Heidi has no involvement with the project or the

1017
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 4: girls on Yvonne cd ram, and she wants everyone to know.

1018
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 13: They're probably his girlfriends, was my response.

1019
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 15: Who cares?

1020
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 2: He's pathetic?

1021
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 13: What can I say?

1022
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 2: I am certainly not basing a company on Heidi flies.

1023
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 2: We're just kicking it off with this. It will introduce

1024
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 2: the company name to everybody because of the press attention

1025
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 2: we will get.

1026
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 4: Yvonne. Naj says he'll be premiering the Heidi's Girls CD

1027
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 4: rom at trade shows like Macworld in San Francisco and

1028
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 4: the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, which for years

1029
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 4: famously took place at the same time as the Adult

1030
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 4: Video News Award, so that there could be overlap between

1031
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 4: the two. Her ex boyfriend, Bernie Kornfeld's connection to High

1032
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 4: is uncovered by some journalists who try to get comment

1033
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 4: from him. He calls Heidi to reassure her that he

1034
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 4: is still there for her and always will be.

1035
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 13: I don't know what his financial situation was. I do

1036
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 13: know that he was able to come up with a

1037
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 13: million dollars whenever he wanted.

1038
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 4: Bernie Kornfeld has decamped from the United States entirely after

1039
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 4: telling Heidi that the irs were coming for him, asking

1040
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 4: for ninety two million dollars. He has gone to his

1041
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 4: castle in France, taking ten gorgeous women on his private

1042
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 4: jet with him, but Heidi Fleiss is stuck in Los Angeles,

1043
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 4: wishing that she was on a private jet instead, headed

1044
01:04:46,280 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 4: somewhere glamorous, chic, and far far away from her troubles.

1045
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 4: Next time on Heidi World, Heidi Flice goes to trial

1046
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 4: in downtown Los Angeles on pandering charges, and she is

1047
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 4: terrified