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Speaker 1: But my favorite senior citizen by far, Will Primost, is here.

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Speaker 1: Will Primost joined us back on episode five ninety three

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Speaker 1: and we talked about a gun auction that was coming

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Speaker 1: up later this year where Will had over the years

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Speaker 1: collected a collection of.

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Speaker 2: Perdy hammer guns Perdy p U r d e Y

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Speaker 2: Perdy Purdy hammer gun shotguns.

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Speaker 1: How many in the collection?

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Speaker 2: Five?

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Speaker 1: And uh they're nice guns. This is a valuable collection.

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Speaker 1: And Will was telling us how he is donating these

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Speaker 1: guns for a auction for a conservation fundraiser. He's just

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Speaker 1: giving them up, the whole collection. And I said, man,

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Speaker 1: when that happens, you should come back on the show.

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Speaker 1: You can come on the show anytime you want. But

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Speaker 1: I said, you should come back on the show and

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about the auction and plug the auction. So

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Speaker 1: we're going to get around to that and do that

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Speaker 1: and talk about some more stuff you got going on.

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Speaker 1: And this the organization at Steward Stuart Link. Stuart asked,

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Speaker 1: Stewart Steward, not Stuart. I keep seeing it like a name,

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Speaker 1: like a dude named Stuart Stuart. Picture a guy named that.

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Speaker 2: The steward of the land is the person who owns

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Speaker 2: it and farms it or leases it in Farman. Whoever

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Speaker 2: has can control of the land is the steward got it.

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Speaker 2: And so we are the link for the steward to

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Speaker 2: the NRCS offices, FSA offices, carbons regruestration companies, anything that

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Speaker 2: benefits the land, anything that can help you provide income

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Speaker 2: to afford land or to make it better to conserve water,

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Speaker 2: variable rate pesticide probs, veriable rate fertilizer programs, equipped level

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Speaker 2: whatever it might be. And all this got started because

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Speaker 2: Nick Thomas, the founder, helped me with my farm and

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Speaker 2: I couldn't get anybody to help me with anything on

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Speaker 2: my farm. And then over a number of years he

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Speaker 2: got probably, I mean, you know, telling hundreds of thousands

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Speaker 2: of dollars. I stopped, stopped the water from going into

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Speaker 2: put land back into trees, did warm seas and grasses,

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Speaker 2: restored the quail. There's just tons of things you can do.

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Speaker 2: And you can get their their their excuse me, public

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Speaker 2: and private people that will help. I'll help you provide

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Speaker 2: that God money to do it. Yeah, my buddy Doug

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Speaker 2: Durren's getting excited right now. Yeah, listening, Doug Darren needs

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Speaker 2: to't know about Stuart Lake.

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Speaker 1: You need to know about Doug Durran, Doug Duranty to

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Speaker 1: know about Stuart l There you go. Uh, it's a

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Speaker 1: huge wrong. I got to write it on my hand.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about this senior citizen stuff. Yeah, I got

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Speaker 2: it bad. Yeah. Yesterday I was I had to get

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the lady will they stick you for that haircut?

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Speaker 2: Nineteen dollars? I said, how come it's so cheap? Just

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Speaker 2: because you're a senior citizen.

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Speaker 1: I think she was hitting on you. You look great, Phil,

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Speaker 1: something's wrong. We're super loud man.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Spencer asked me to turn up the volume

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Speaker 3: on those head films. I can turn years down alone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, you know what, close your eyes? I meant, well,

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Speaker 1: Corey block his eyes now it filtered me all the

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Speaker 1: I want I want to test. I want filled it

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Speaker 4: There you go. You're on your own closing your eyes.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's pretty good. Hey, don't don't open I

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Speaker 1: got trust you got him open. This is the most

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Speaker 1: intriguing odor. Spill it. No, I'm not do anything bad.

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Speaker 1: It's not a bad it's not a bad smell. Guide

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Speaker 4: You're gonna want to reach out with your left Reach

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Speaker 4: out with your left hand and grab this Mason jar. Oh,

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Speaker 4: it's to the left of your microphone.

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Speaker 1: Here, just put it up there, just feel it.

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Speaker 4: Can we pass it around?

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Speaker 1: This is my favorite thing I've ever made.

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Speaker 5: Man, isn't that something I that's just by looking at it.

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Speaker 3: So you're familiar with medicinal marijuana.

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Speaker 1: You don't like the smell, Oh that's an overreaction.

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Speaker 6: First, or you just related. But that's like chemical science class.

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Speaker 2: Chemical geese.

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Speaker 1: I sniffed in my eyes and smell. The whole room

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Speaker 6: Everybody who's listening. That's like a jar of like breaking

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Speaker 1: That right there is beaver castors soaking and moonshine.

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Speaker 2: Shot. I mean I used to trap, and I always said,

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Speaker 1: A little bit now and then is good. Yeah, a lot.

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Speaker 2: So I want to say, you drink that?

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't think I'm gonna though. So here's what happened.

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Speaker 1: There's a there's a here's why I have this. Oh

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Speaker 1: it's an intriguing odor.

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Speaker 1: There's a famous lure maker still alive. Won't come on

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Speaker 2: It is not a yeah, won't.

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Speaker 1: Come on the podcast, doesn't understand what what you're even

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Speaker 1: Marziada is his name.

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Speaker 6: You're listening.

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Speaker 1: I'm about ready to pay him to come on and

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Speaker 6: We should just call it like radio.

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Speaker 1: day right, we'd give Mike Marziada as a day rate

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Speaker 6: You don't pay guests.

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Speaker 1: He has a column in Trapper's Post. He has like

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Speaker 1: he says like you can soak them in ever clear.

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Speaker 1: So I have a bottle of moonshine that I've owned

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Speaker 2: Lure maker will pay you for that formula.

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Speaker 1: You know what, Mike, if you come on, you can

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Speaker 3: Do you think that's safe to drink?

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Speaker 1: It's just pickled uh glands, yeah, picked.

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Speaker 1: That's what. Yeah, I know it's there.

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Speaker 1: Just take a big old swig of that. You don't

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Speaker 4: You know it looks and smells like pickled elk nuts.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't smell like a pickled Take another whiff. You guys

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Speaker 4: Man, well, I was thinking about elk nuts when I

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Speaker 5: It smells like castor.

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Speaker 1: Give him another whiff, Corey taking their whiff.

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Speaker 5: I think it smells like castor and picture picture May.

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Speaker 1: Picture it's May and you're walking along a stream.

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Speaker 4: Okay, do that a lot.

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Speaker 7: And you've got a glass of ever clear in your

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Speaker 1: Let's get in there, y, I did that the first time.

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Speaker 5: Don't spill it, Will's lap.

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Speaker 6: But if you if you consume cast or, like what yeah,

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Speaker 6: Like what's is it like packed with vitamins and minerals?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great for you. It's no different than I mean,

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Speaker 1: Hard looks like brain, But when you open it up,

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Speaker 1: it's a paste. There's a paste inside of it.

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Speaker 5: There's like an oily paste. And then there's like a castor.

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Speaker 6: One day like like panco fried.

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Speaker 1: There's no no, I'm not. The smell gets the smell

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Speaker 7: After a while, your brain starts to think that it's

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Speaker 7: like you know, people make like apple, they'll make moonshine

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Speaker 7: think that it's cinnamon, and you sort of want it.

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Speaker 1: Take a big old swig, just take a little Have you.

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Speaker 2: Have you had your I'm not opposed to you. Have

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Speaker 2: you had your?

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Speaker 6: If you take a little shot, I'll take a little

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Speaker 6: sh drink.

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Speaker 1: You got pansies Now I'm gonna be back, be back

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Speaker 1: to drinking.

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Speaker 3: I'll drink it.

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Speaker 7: I just there's a lot of floaties in there that

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Speaker 7: I'm I don't want to pick out of my teeth.

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Speaker 1: We're one day sitting there at the dinner table and

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Speaker 1: drink social social drinking. And I don't know where he

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Speaker 1: picked up this expression, but he was fourteen and he

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Speaker 1: says to me that, how long you've been sober?

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Speaker 2: I like what.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, That like implies like a whole other level of.

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Speaker 7: Your sobriety journey.

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Speaker 3: I think it's what they're called now, even within the

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Speaker 1: Tastes like it smells nuts. God, regret that you want

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Speaker 1: Oh, do you know what this shirt is? You don't,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you. This is the odds of if you

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Speaker 1: So you think that they're like you remember, you know

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Speaker 2: No, nobody's got nobody's got Tom Kelly's brain. He's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't care who what when no one's going

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's not that they're right, but that's

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Speaker 1: a real hand dude, and they don't care.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about these turkey hunters who think they know

443
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Speaker 2: it all and they think there's God's gift to Colin

444
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 2: and they're gonna yell and they're gonna and so the

445
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 2: turkey ends up associating so much with what you're doing

446
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Speaker 2: and the stimuli that he's getting, he learns to stay

447
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Speaker 2: away from it.

448
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Speaker 1: M hmm. So you've gotten where you don't make a

449
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Speaker 1: peep till they hit the ground.

450
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Speaker 2: Never, huh. That is that's a cardinal rue. Really, you

451
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Speaker 2: don't do it to get him.

452
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Speaker 3: You hear other hens yelp before before they're they hit

453
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Speaker 3: the ground.

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Speaker 5: He just knows that where they're usually in the tree.

455
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Speaker 5: Mm hm.

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Speaker 2: So if you're on the ground, he's in a tree,

457
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Speaker 2: I mean more time than not, depending on the terrain.

458
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 2: He knows you're down there, right, And so what what's

459
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 2: supposed to happen? You're supposed to walk to his tree?

460
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Speaker 2: That's why he stays in the tree, goblin. You're supposed

461
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Speaker 2: to walk to his tree and then you and he

462
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Speaker 2: flies down. So you got to break that. So you

463
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 2: got to make him think he's losing something. You know,

464
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Speaker 2: you hadn't said a word. So what we do? We

465
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Speaker 2: take a wing? We take a dried wing. Usually it's

466
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Speaker 2: a hen wing because they bend easier than as stiff

467
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Speaker 2: as a jake's wing or a goblin's wing.

468
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Speaker 1: And you gotta go up, poorch a hen.

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Speaker 2: Huh, well bearded hen buddy, Okay.

470
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Speaker 1: Trying I think out how to get that hen thing.

471
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Speaker 1: Like you're telling everybody to go poaching.

472
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Speaker 2: Now, no, you just hunting the fog. You have false seasons.

473
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Speaker 2: You break him up and whistle him back in okay,

474
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Speaker 2: But anyway, you fly down, fly down.

475
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Speaker 1: And you do the fly down.

476
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Speaker 2: Noise with that wing. It's tied to string to my

477
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Speaker 2: back because they kept leaving, losing him in the woods

478
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Speaker 2: and stays at the back of my vest.

479
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Speaker 3: So is that an like you're cutting the air or

480
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Speaker 3: you're hitting the ground with it.

481
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Speaker 2: You're touching the tree because when those when the turkeys

482
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Speaker 2: leave the limb, leave the roofe, they're hitting limbs and

483
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 2: coming down to you. And then you'll fuck and you

484
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Speaker 2: hit the ground. Okay, and then don't yell. Wait maybe

485
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Speaker 2: two and a half minutes scratching the leaves. Yep, hmm,

486
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Speaker 2: don't don't. Don't open your mouth. Take the guy's call away.

487
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Speaker 2: He's gonna screw it up the instant he tries to

488
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Speaker 2: yelp better.

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Speaker 1: Man, I've never used AI in my life, but I'm

490
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Speaker 1: gonna use it right now. Well, no I have, because

491
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Speaker 1: I used the Merlin app. But I'm gonna use a

492
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Speaker 1: eye to make him say all the opposite, and then

493
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the only one that knows the truth.

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Speaker 3: So we had a similar question yesterday on when we

495
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Speaker 3: did The Meat Eater Live. We had somebody ask about

496
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Speaker 3: using a predator call er faun in distress call. I

497
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 3: think I brought up the fun in distress call for

498
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Speaker 3: black bears, and I very much of the opinion that

499
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Speaker 3: if it's kind of a two sided thing, if you

500
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Speaker 3: just want to kill a bear, then you risk use,

501
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Speaker 3: you risk not getting a bear by using a fun

502
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Speaker 3: and distress call, in my opinion, because small bears will

503
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Speaker 3: go the opposite direction. Oh yep, they're like, don't just

504
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Speaker 3: not worth the risk, got it. But big bears either

505
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Speaker 3: care or they don't care. But they don't leave the

506
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Speaker 3: country because they're using a fun industress.

507
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Speaker 1: They just might not. I've watched many of them not

508
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Speaker 1: picked their head up right, and then one in ten

509
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Speaker 1: goes ballistic.

510
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Speaker 3: Yeap goes.

511
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Speaker 1: He's gone.

512
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we should probably.

513
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Speaker 4: Make a T shirt out of that, Like, what are

514
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Speaker 4: the mathematical odds of a bear coming to your predator call?

515
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Speaker 1: If you're close, maybe in his lap.

516
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Speaker 2: That's the finest T shirt I've ever seen.

517
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Speaker 1: Well, you want to see something that's going to really

518
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Speaker 1: impress you, Yeah, it's outside. Go out that door. Because

519
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Speaker 1: we had different engineers.

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Speaker 3: Hang tight, ament, boy, it's showing tell day here. On

521
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Speaker 3: the Old Meat Eater podcast, Uncle Will's in town. Steve's

522
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Speaker 3: getting all the stuff out.

523
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.

524
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's another Yeah, it's another version.

525
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Speaker 2: Therefore, q E d B equal zero over three sixty

526
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Speaker 2: times one hundred and sin one quarter. I don't know

527
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Speaker 2: who poulin Neck is, but he's good. That is crazy.

528
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Speaker 1: No, it's a good little formula. A guy wrote in

529
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Speaker 1: we got a listener question. The guy wrote in, he's

530
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Speaker 1: been struggling with some beavers, and then he's saying he

531
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Speaker 1: thinks that beaver's attacked his canoe. I disagree, porcupine, His

532
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,959
Speaker 1: canoe got attacked by a porcupine. To his canoe got

533
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Speaker 1: attacked by a porcupine. That ain't a beaver.

534
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Speaker 5: I only think beaver's just chew on random stuff.

535
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Speaker 2: You need to qualify where where the canoe got attacked?

536
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Speaker 1: Southwest Wisconsin. You want to see the picture?

537
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got you. But but if you were from Mississippi,

538
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Speaker 2: it was not a porcupine.

539
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 5: Oh that's a good point.

540
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Speaker 1: He's a porcupine. He's a porcupine country.

541
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

542
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Speaker 1: Porcupines will eat tree stands, they like treated plywood, they like.

543
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Speaker 5: You know, they like axe handles because you just sweat

544
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 5: from your hands getting on the axe handle wouldn't ax handle.

545
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Speaker 3: No, No, Porky's in Mississippi.

546
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Speaker 5: Huh.

547
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Speaker 3: They just don't exist down there.

548
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Speaker 2: Really when you say accent, one of my favorites saying

549
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Speaker 2: is I'm as scared of her as a possibly as

550
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Speaker 2: an axe handle. That's what I think.

551
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Speaker 5: I start using that.

552
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've had him chew on my fly rod, cork handles, yep, sweat.

553
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Speaker 1: My dad had a cab and he's telling me that

554
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Speaker 1: they had a cabin. He said, you kind of like

555
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,479
Speaker 1: people would walk out the door to take a leak

556
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Speaker 1: and there was a stump, and you would naturally it's

557
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,479
Speaker 1: just like a human fire hydrant, like anyone that like

558
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: like went out the door. They'd go slightly left in

559
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: piana stump. And he said the porcupines always out there

560
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: gnawing on that stump, just from the minerals and stuff

561
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Speaker 1: in the mountain goats.

562
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Speaker 6: Uh.

563
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Speaker 1: The guy rode in, But that's really complicated. Battle with

564
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Speaker 1: beaver covered that. Oh, here's a good one for you,

565
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Speaker 1: will opinions. I'm keeping freshwater fishing a small boat. Let's

566
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Speaker 1: say you're out fishing, what do you guys? Calm down

567
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Speaker 1: where you're from? Brim You say, bluegills or do you

568
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: say brim brim blue elles? Okay, you're on a small boat.

569
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Speaker 1: He's like, how do you keep fish nice? You know,

570
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Speaker 1: like you don't have a big old ice chest. He's

571
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: just asking, how do you.

572
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: Put them in a basket in the water. You keep

573
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Speaker 2: them breathing and alive. You like the basket the same

574
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Speaker 2: way you do an alligator. You catch an alligator, you

575
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: don't kill him. No, take his mouth up and your

576
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: tie his arms up behind his back and keep him

577
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Speaker 2: alive till you get him to the butcher room.

578
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Speaker 7: Everybody knows that I've everybody knows that.

579
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Speaker 1: This guy is going to be delighted that he's getting

580
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Speaker 1: He just thought he's gonna get advice from us guys,

581
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Speaker 1: but he's getting advice from will pray.

582
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Speaker 2: If you want it, if you want it fresh, keep

583
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Speaker 2: it alive.

584
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Speaker 5: Makes sense to me totally.

585
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: If you guys have any thoughts on if my stringer

586
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: and what's he got going on?

587
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 2: Now?

588
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 3: Sorry, our brim game up here is pretty weak. I

589
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 3: would love some easy access to like throwing some slip

590
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: bobbers for for like.

591
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Speaker 2: I just got I just got back from the wind

592
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: River Canyon and this guy was using a balloon as

593
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Speaker 2: an indicator, and it looked just like a cork, and

594
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: I kept saying, do you see my cork move? And

595
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: he goes, do what? So I went on the internet

596
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: and I searched definition of a fishing cork, and after

597
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: he left that day, I sent it, sent it to him.

598
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Speaker 2: He wouldn't reply.

599
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Speaker 1: I got a couple additional thoughts now that I've read

600
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Speaker 1: it more carefully. He's using a stringer combo, stringer fish

601
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: basket combo. He's putting them on a stringer out in

602
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: the water, then he's throwing them in a fish basket

603
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: when he's back. And he's also fishing for northeast northern,

604
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: so he's dealing with some larger fish. He needs to

605
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: go with.

606
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: An ice chest for the northern for the bigger ones,

607
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: keep him, you know, nice and fresh. But the smallment

608
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: was keeping in a basket. If you use the stringer,

609
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: you're gonna bust their lips, they're gonna break off, or

610
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: you put it through the gills, you gotta kill it.

611
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: That's all I was gonna include for him is I

612
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: remember when we were little, we used to use stringers

613
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: and we didn't know, so we'd always run it under

614
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: the gill car and you got a bunch of dead fish,

615
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: and then later learned to prick them with it. But

616
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: you know that's that like we can't for bluegles. That

617
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: doesn't really work.

618
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: We would put them on stringers, but the last time

619
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Speaker 2: my watermoks had wrapped around that stringer I done.

620
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: My kid recently, he was down fishing in the creek

621
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Speaker 1: down the road from our house, and they caught some

622
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: trout and he had him on a string and then

623
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Speaker 1: he looks down there in this big old crayfish messing

624
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: with his trout. So him and his bodies came home

625
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: and they fried their trout up and boiled that little crayfish.

626
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: It was a nice grayfish, that nice little.

627
00:31:52,640 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: Uh whatever uh fish. Boil, yeah, boil.

628
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: They had a nice little boil. Okay, here's one I

629
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Speaker 1: curious to get your thoughts on this. A guy was

630
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: at a A guy was at a turkey hunting, like

631
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: a turkey derby North Carolina struck masters or something like that.

632
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: He was dismayed by the he was dismayed by the

633
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: the field care he witnessed where you're weighing birds, and

634
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: so people got their birds hung up with the guts

635
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: in them out in the sun, not chilled. And then

636
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: he was saying that he saw a tremendous amount like no,

637
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: like some people not even taking the breasts, but a

638
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: lot of people not taking the most people not taking

639
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: the thighs and legs. What do you think about that?

640
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: Wild turkey is just so great. The breast, the legs,

641
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: the thighs make the greatest soup. It's just it's just great.

642
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: If you just learn it, you's gotta deal with it.

643
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: But leaving the guts in not Usually I draw them,

644
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,959
Speaker 2: you know, that's what you call it. Yeah, yeah, I

645
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: draw him instant. I killed him before they hardly finished flopping.

646
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: Yep, because that's the smells man cut.

647
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: You cut a slice there at the bottom of the breast,

648
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: and you stick your hand in and grab the biggest

649
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: thing you can find, which is gonna be the gids.

650
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: That's gonna be the gids. If you can grab a

651
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: hold of it and get it, it's all coming out,

652
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: got it now? If you got to weigh them, because

653
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: I'm not interested in winning some turkey weight contests, so

654
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: I like the meat better than that, So I'm drawing them.

655
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: You know, I lost the turkey contest, and uh and

656
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: uh Elroy, I think it's called Elroy, Wisconsin. Is every

657
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: place called Elroy, Wisconsin? Yeah? Sure, I joined a turkey derby,

658
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: but I got my bird and brought it down and

659
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: I was the leader on the board, and then a

660
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: guy beat me by a few ounces, and all the

661
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: old guys in the bar were just thought I was

662
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: the dumbest guy on the planet. My buddy says, he go,

663
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: his dad goes back in there a couple of days later,

664
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: and you're sitting there and instilling there. He got it

665
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: the bird. Good for you.

666
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 6: But I know this audience member was kind of a

667
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 6: pall that there would be so many dead turkeys just

668
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 6: pinned to a board, and it was that no one

669
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 6: was really taking the meat out of them. So it

670
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 6: was about salvage laws. I'm wondering how many states have

671
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 6: I don't know.

672
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: His final question is my question to the crew is

673
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: what is the best way to get North Carolina to

674
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 1: create legislation on a salvage law?

675
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, start showing up at your Fishing Game committee meetings

676
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 3: and introduce it. And then eventually, if you feel like

677
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 3: you're not getting any traction, you can ride into your

678
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 3: state reps and get somebody interested in that, the people

679
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 3: that you need to target in that case, or the

680
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 3: people who sit on the Fishing Game Committee at the

681
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 3: state level.

682
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in I love salvage laws. I

683
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: understand dan like arguments that like, oh, it's a big

684
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: brother telling you what to do, But I like I

685
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: like them. I like how detailed they are. I like

686
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: salvage laws.

687
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 6: Are they per species I see?

688
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: Or they'll spell it out like ducks up to the

689
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: size of a mallard? Right, an interesting little thing here,

690
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: and it's still even though they rolled Montana rolled back

691
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: some salvage laws, but in Montana, is it Montana?

692
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: Like?

693
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: I think the wing wing meat got to retain the

694
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: wing meat, which.

695
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 6: Wings.

696
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 3: That's strict. I think for this turkey contest. There is

697
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 3: a lot of meat on wings for this turkey contest.

698
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 3: If you want to just make everybody happy and not

699
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 3: feel like they're wasting good stuff, is you got to

700
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 3: contract out with like some sort of a mobile food

701
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 3: trucking service.

702
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 7: And then it's just an extra fee and part paying

703
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 7: the fee.

704
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 3: People can't just jerk the hide off their turkey and

705
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 3: and throw the carcasses and and he says, at least

706
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 3: make stock. I put up a ton of stock every year,

707
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 3: and and and that definitely is part of why I

708
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 3: like killing a bunch of turkeys. But yeah, turkey stock

709
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 3: is amazing. And if you want, as long as it's fresh,

710
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 3: you you don't have to clean those birds. Well, you

711
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 3: just dump it.

712
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,479
Speaker 1: All cowls boils the whole bird.

713
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 5: I do.

714
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 3: I pull the meat, pull the meat off, take the everything.

715
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: But the guy will he throws into a post.

716
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: I like to see a turkey baked, roasted hole like

717
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: you like doing that? Yeah, and the in the wild turkey,

718
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: of course, the breast but just sticks straight up. It's

719
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: just you know, it's not break round like the swift

720
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 2: butter ball. But you boil some water and you dip in.

721
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 2: Of course you've already drawn him, so the hot water.

722
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: You don't want to leave it too much. You don't

723
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 2: want to cook the meat, but you you get it

724
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 2: just right, and that those feathers will just come off

725
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: in that you're leaving the hot o.

726
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 3: Got Well, then are you Bryan and your bird? And

727
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 3: then roasting it?

728
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 2: You can. I've done it that way. It's not necessary.

729
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 2: Oh really, Yeah, you just flat clean it good. Pick

730
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 2: all the feathers up, all the wing every everything. Yeah,

731
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 2: make it look like you can stuff it if you want.

732
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 2: I like oyster dressing the best cool.

733
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: I want people to know that we know that it's

734
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: not turkey season anymore.

735
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: Oh, it depends on who's watching.

736
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 3: This is the last weekend and it's wrapping up.

737
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. I could talk turkeys at any time.

738
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: No, I love talking turkeys. And you got to you

739
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: got to look at a turkey man here. You know. I

740
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: had a guy one time who was in the poultry business,

741
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: uh described me. He lumped turkeys into two categories, sharp

742
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: breasted and round breasted, and he would say a turkey

743
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: a wild turkey. He said, that's a shark breasted bird.

744
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: It's sharp.

745
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good way of describing it.

746
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: And they can be pretty dry, so you can inject

747
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: them with butter when you bite them. Wild mate can

748
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 2: be very very dry.

749
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 3: I would use oven bags and oven I thought the

750
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 3: oven bag with brining a bird, you never got a

751
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 3: dry bird.

752
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: Great.

753
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 3: They were, they were fantastic. Yeah, but I'd take I'd

754
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 3: take the legs off because they just wouldn't they wouldn't

755
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 3: they went cooked to the same degree.

756
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 2: The you gotta you gotta cook them slower and more.

757
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: You put the legs in a crockpot. Yeah, and and

758
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 2: it falls off the boat.

759
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 3: Or Buddy Jesse Griffiths just taught me you basically turn

760
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: your turkey leg into a smoked hamhock. And so I

761
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 3: just did four turkey.

762
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 1: Legs like that, so into something.

763
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 3: I brind them in like a cure style brine, smoked them,

764
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 3: and then I just back sealed them for doing like

765
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 3: big things of collared greens or something like that. Throw

766
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 3: them in there for sound good.

767
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm getting that cast or taste out. Just

768
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: how long has it been I got here's another advice

769
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 1: thing from Okay, another guy wrote in looking for advice,

770
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: but we're gonna put it to you. Okay, this this

771
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 1: is like a complict. This put your thinking cap on. Okay,

772
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: it's like a math problem.

773
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Okay.

774
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: He's wondering about how to tip a guide, so tipping

775
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: a guide. Okay, Ready, we got former guides in the room.

776
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 1: You guys will have an opinion about this. Oh okay,

777
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: put put yourself in the hunters. Don't put you guys.

778
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: So cal Corey you're in the hunter's perspective.

779
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 5: And Randall Randall's fishing guy.

780
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: Oh you've done yeah, you've done some guiding. Okay, you're

781
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: in the anglers perspective, not the guy's perspective. John, he said,

782
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: when he used to guide and the clients has come in,

783
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: he goes, you're always looking for subtle cues about who's

784
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: got the bust money so he can get paired with them.

785
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 4: It doesn't always work out that way.

786
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: No.

787
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 7: I had a guy one time spent the whole week.

788
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 7: I fished him for like six days and he'd won

789
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 7: the trip, so it was a free trill, and he

790
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 7: kept asking me all week. He's like, so, you know,

791
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 7: Walter takes care of you, right, Walter takes cally right.

792
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 7: And I was like, man, it's really thoughtful of him

793
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 7: that he's he's so concerned that I'm being fed and

794
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 7: housed and that my summer's going well. And at the

795
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 7: end of the week, he got on the plane and

796
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 7: he stuck his head out the plane and he said,

797
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 7: Walter's taking care of you, right, And it finally clicked

798
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 7: that he was checking to see whether or not he

799
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 7: needed to tip me.

800
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it was a free trips too late.

801
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 3: Quick throw a rock through the windshield of plane. Hold

802
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: on a second.

803
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: Okay, ready for this pocket. So you gotta no think

804
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: we're giving you hit numbers. Here your businessman, six day

805
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: Bear Turkey combo hunt, and the price is The price

806
00:40:54,680 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: is four six hundred per hunter. The outfitter webs recommends

807
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty percent tip for the guide plus one

808
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: hundred to two hundred dollars for the camp cook. The

809
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 1: outfitter notified us we will have a guide for Turkey

810
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: and a separate guide for bear. My friend wants to

811
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: tip twenty percent, so nine hundred and twenty dollars plus

812
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: two hundred to the cook. But he thinks we need

813
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 1: to tip twenty percent to each guide for a total

814
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 1: of one thousand, eight hundred and forty dollars worth of tips.

815
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: Comes out to a forty four percent increase per hunter.

816
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 3: I'd say, you do whatever you want and give me

817
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 3: your friend's number and I'll guide him anytime.

818
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

819
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: Well, I agree that we should tip for our trip.

820
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: I think forty four percent of the total trip price

821
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: is excessive for each individual hunter. I have two tip recommendations.

822
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: Then he goes down with his recommendations. He wants to

823
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: split it up. We're gonna tip twenty percent. So if

824
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: it's six days of okay, if it's if it's three

825
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: days of turkey, three days of bear, however you slice it.

826
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: You take the twenty percent amount and go like, okay,

827
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: you get half of twenty percent, and then the turkey

828
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: guide gets half of twenty percent. What would you do

829
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: to me?

830
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: It's really simple. Okay, it's a cost of a hunt.

831
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: If the hunt costs you five thousand dollars three days

832
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 2: or six days, I tip amendment of twenty percent.

833
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: And they can do how they can divide it up

834
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: how they.

835
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: Want, how they want. Now, I also tip the cook,

836
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: like I just left on from a trip on the

837
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 2: wind River Canyon and I checked in because I wanted

838
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 2: to know kind of what the average that typical tip

839
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 2: is one hundred dollars per person per day. There's two

840
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 2: people in the boat, two hundred dollars a day for

841
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: three days. That's six hundred dollars. Okay, I gave him,

842
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: mate hunter. I just think gods, now, if the gods,

843
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: if he's a if he's an sob, he's got a

844
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 2: bad attitude, and every other word out of his mouth

845
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: is profanity, which I don't like.

846
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 4: That explains a lot.

847
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: In other words, if you were my guide, you'd get

848
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: zero steven.

849
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: You don't want steve guide.

850
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So anyway, I just I just think twenty

851
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: percent for a tip he guided me once.

852
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true.

853
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: Were you cursing all the time?

854
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 4: Nope, that's good. Maybe maybe under my mustache. Yeah, And

855
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 4: it was a heck of a tip.

856
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: I quit any kind of booze. I'm gonnaquit any kind

857
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: of swearing.

858
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 4: Next, there you go, Good luck, tip your guys twenty percent.

859
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: So these you guys, the guy that rolled in twenty

860
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: percent of the bill, and then divide it of the guides.

861
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: How you think I think that your friend. Thinking that

862
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: each guy gets twenty percent is not the way to

863
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: think about it.

864
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

865
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 7: If I'm meeting at a restaurant and my server I

866
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 7: get a new server halfway through the meal or whatever,

867
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 7: if someone clocked out, I'm not all of a sudden

868
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 7: tipping forty percent meal.

869
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: That's that's a great way of looking at it. Another

870
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: way to look at it. Let's say you're going out

871
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: like we did a guy to hunt one time for

872
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: mule deer with Crooked Sky Outfitters, wonderful guys. But you

873
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 1: might be with Stuart one day, might be with Land

874
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: one day. You know what I mean. They might be like,

875
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 1: well today, go with so and so because he wants

876
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 1: to go up and check. You know, in the end

877
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: going like sure, twenty percent of the trip to him,

878
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: twenty percent of the trip to him, twenty percent of

879
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: the trip to him. Yeah, it wouldn't be how you'd

880
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: look at it.

881
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 2: So we had a lady that cleaned the lodge in

882
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: the room every day. I gave her one hundred dollars

883
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: for the three days and which wasn't asked for. And

884
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: then the chef was great, he had a great personality

885
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: and he was five star. I gave him six hundred bucks.

886
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 2: Starting to think of my host this show just right.

887
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 7: To pour him a glass of that will moonshine a couple.

888
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 2: When you go on these trips and these people, I mean,

889
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: guiding is a great life. If you don't weaken, it

890
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: can be it can be hard.

891
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: If you don't do what weaken. I don't understand what

892
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: you means, even if the guide doesn't.

893
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 2: If the guide doesn't weaken, oh I see, I mean

894
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 2: it's hard. I got you and and you know, and

895
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: and and they're dealing with some of these guides get

896
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 2: some pretty bad clients. Oh my gosh, they know it all.

897
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: They want to tell you how to hunt. You got

898
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: to remember, don't guide the god. You bought a hunt.

899
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 2: You hired a guide, and you got to go with

900
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: the flow. Yeah, compliment him and and give him the

901
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 2: opportunity to do good for you.

902
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: You know, I've been developing a piece of life advice

903
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: that I've been using, and I use it with contractors. Well,

904
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: if if I'm having a problem with like in my

905
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: chanical room. I explained this on the show recently. Like

906
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: let's say I'm having we have in floor heating. You

907
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: open my mechanical room up. You can't tell what's going

908
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: on in there's two companies. It's not like the old days,

909
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: like a pipe coming in, a pipe going out. You

910
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: look at your like, who knows. It's like open up

911
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: a NASK control room. So what I do when I

912
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: have a guy over, I don't do that. Well, you know,

913
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: I'm thinking it might be whatever, And you know, and

914
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 1: I tried a couple of things, but you know, I'm

915
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: too busy fixing other stuff. So I need you to

916
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: take a quick look and I'd probably be able to

917
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: figure it out. Like I don't do any of that garbage.

918
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: I come in and go, man, I'm an idiot. I

919
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: don't know anything about I look in here and it's

920
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: just I don't get it. That opens up like that

921
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 1: opens up a level of rapport and you you just

922
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: just you dispense with all the trying to save face

923
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: and you just come in and be like, dude, I

924
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. I don't I don't get it.

925
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: I'd love to understand it. I can't understand it. And

926
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: it just creates a different dynamic because a guy's impulse

927
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: is to try to establish his bona fides. Right good. Yeah,

928
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: So Nate Mason, who we worked with recently, went to

929
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: a dog training thing and he said, the first words

930
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: out of my mouth he knows a thing or two.

931
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: The first words out of his mouth, man, I'm an idiot.

932
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about any of this, he says,

933
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: just completely changed the whole dynamic. People all day trying

934
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: to help him out. So he said, like everybody's real

935
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: nice to him. He got a lot more for his

936
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: money instead of coming and being like, wow, I've trained

937
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: a few dogs in my day. You know none of that.

938
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 2: It's like a fishing guy. You're hiring a guid. We

939
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 2: were on the wind river. That guy has been fishing

940
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 2: that river every day. He's watching the river change, he's

941
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 2: watching the levels, he's watching the temperature, he's watching different spots.

942
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 2: He's figuring it out. And so I come in. I'm

943
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 2: a big fly fisherman. I go all the time. I

944
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: know what I'm doing, and I trust to tell the

945
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 2: guid what to do. It changed just the dynamics of

946
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 2: the whole trip. Instead. At first, I said, look, anything

947
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: I do, tell me not to if you need to,

948
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 2: and if you need to tell me twice, tell me twice.

949
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: God tell me what to do. And I want to

950
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 2: play his game. And he was so much more fun

951
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 2: and he taught me. I learned stuff that I didn't know.

952
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: Yep. It was great, yeap.

953
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 2: And then you tip good and you're welcome back.

954
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: So do the guides in this room like this.

955
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 4: I love everything. Will saying yeah, I need to know

956
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 4: more specifics about this bear hunt. Is it a baited

957
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 4: bear hunt? Is it spot in stock? Are their hounds involved?

958
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 1: Why you want to talk shop about bear hunt.

959
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, this isn't enough information here, Okay.

960
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: Will I got one more for you? Greay for this guys, No, gents,

961
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: mm hmmm, sorry for the The title is Turkey's versus

962
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: Grouse Mortal enemies, he said, Sorry for the title. I

963
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: wanted to grab your attention and all seriousness. However, this

964
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 1: has been on my mind quite a few years now.

965
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: Maybe you folks have heard of this discussion before, and

966
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: maybe you guys think it's nuts. But I'm telling you

967
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: there's a good amount of Northern Minnesota outdoorsmen who keep

968
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: repeating what I believe to be a rural myth. That

969
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: myth is that turkey's target and kill grouse and grouse

970
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: nests eggs. He says he has had over fifteen people

971
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 1: tell him that turkeys are killing the grouse.

972
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 3: Are they all from the same family, It's.

973
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 2: A large family.

974
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 5: I don't know about that.

975
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 7: Did they suspiciously have a freezer full of grouse?

976
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 2: No?

977
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 3: I mean, if you watch domestic turkeys, not like in

978
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 3: your high density facilities, right, but like your normal barnyard,

979
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 3: I don't know, vanity turkeys, we'll call them scratching around.

980
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 3: I mean they'll get they'll get into anything, curiosity stuff,

981
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 3: and it's not uncommon to like throw eggshells out there

982
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 3: for a little added calcium.

983
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: It's a great point because when I put my compost

984
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: on my garden, the magpies, every bird in town is

985
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: walking around and there picking the eggshells out during nesting season.

986
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 3: So it wouldn't surprise me if if a handful of

987
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 3: turkeys take advantage of something like that. But I don't

988
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 3: think it's going to be a primary food source.

989
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 6: Or.

990
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 3: It would be. I mean it'd be really interesting, right

991
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 3: if they're there, it'd be like a fisheries biology study. Right,

992
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 3: It's like how much mass can that landscape port? And

993
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 3: by killing off the grouse, the turkey population will grow somehow, right.

994
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 2: I say, look at the science, somebody, I don't know,

995
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 2: it's look at the size. I mean, what's the what's

996
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 2: the turkey biologist name from Georgia Chamberlain. Yeah, so if

997
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: I'm I'm mistaken, If I remember right, he's the one

998
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 2: who figured out that the great horned isle was killing

999
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: the guy was knocking them off the limb and flying

1000
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 2: down and eating their head and all the entest from

1001
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 2: the neck. And that's it. But he documented it. He

1002
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: figured it out and documented it scientifically. So that's what

1003
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:40,479
Speaker 2: needs to be done.

1004
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 3: I don't think you don't understand how the game of

1005
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 3: BS has played.

1006
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 2: I do. I do, and I'm telling you I'm using

1007
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 2: the side I'm going to side.

1008
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: Well, there is a there is a there is a

1009
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: parallel because we had a woman the show. I think

1010
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,959
Speaker 1: she's sitting right where you're sitting right now, and they

1011
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: do cameras on Turkey nests, right, So all you gotta

1012
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: do is you gotta somehow. It's probably not hard to do.

1013
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: You can design this though. You got to catch grouse,

1014
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: find the females, put a marker on them at the

1015
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: right time of year, find when they're hanging out. Go there.

1016
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 1: She was concerned that, she explained us. She was concerned

1017
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: that that what's that thing in astronomy, like just you

1018
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: watching it changes it.

1019
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 2: M oh Hesberg Heisenberg's principle.

1020
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: There's a bit of Heisenberg's principle at play because she

1021
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: feels that your she feels that your presence at the

1022
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 1: nest changes a dynamic. And she has noticed that when

1023
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: she goes to a nest site and does the work

1024
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: and sets the camera up. She feels that very quickly

1025
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: thereafter there's a bobcat present in a much higher likelihood

1026
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: than a bob cat will be present right away then later,

1027
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: And somehow that activity and human order and messing around

1028
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: is somehow attractive. Wow, she was speculating. She doesn't know,

1029
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: but she has it. She's like, why is it that

1030
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: we place a camera and so quickly there's a bobcat

1031
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: there and then no bobcats? You know who knows a

1032
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: studio Miriams, Kansas. Okay, so whatever that would be in

1033
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 1: h Rio's or Eastern studying that but yeah, it would

1034
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: be an interesting thing. But I'll tell you one thing

1035
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: that changed my life and how I view wildlife is

1036
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 1: you remember long it must maybe it was a decade ago.

1037
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 1: Someone had a trail cam image of a of a

1038
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: white tail deer that walked up to a robin nest

1039
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: and ate some of the chicks. And I'm like, hey,

1040
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: all bets are off, Like, all bets are off. You know.

1041
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 3: I can't remember where we were, but somebody was, oh,

1042
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 3: it was in Wyoming the other day. But there's a

1043
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 3: bunch of town pheasants basically in all the green areas.

1044
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,959
Speaker 3: And this friend of mine. His folks had just moved

1045
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 3: to town, and it asked him, is there anything they

1046
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 3: can do about these pheasants because they're they're cackling so

1047
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 3: early in the morning.

1048
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: Get up earlier and go to work.

1049
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 3: And yeah, maybe that's what that white tailed deer was

1050
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 3: doing in the morning.

1051
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 2: You know.

1052
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: I watched we were watching, me and my boy were

1053
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: watching some turkeys, you know, as turkeys off and are

1054
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: on the wrong side of a fence, just watching them

1055
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: and like trying to call him into a place they

1056
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: never want to go in a millionaires, you know. And

1057
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: like this bird, we watched him for an hour, you know,

1058
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 1: and he never made a peep. And then a while later,

1059
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: this pheasant gets up and he's doing those low flying,

1060
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: like flying cackles and gets over that turkey's head and

1061
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,720
Speaker 1: hit it. Hit like a good shot, gobble off that rooster.

1062
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 1: All right, Well tell us about the gun auction. Well

1063
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: these are what if people want to see what they

1064
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: look like? What can they type into their phone.

1065
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 2: The truth about conservation dot com?

1066
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 1: Oh, this is to see the actual things.

1067
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, see the guns.

1068
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, truth call it conservation dot com. So as he

1069
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: will's talking, since you probably have your phone with you

1070
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: Truth about Conservation dot Com. Then in the gun auction

1071
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: you can you can behold the purty shotguns that will

1072
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: will now explain the history of and what's happening with them.

1073
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I've always loved my first my first gun

1074
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 2: ever shot was the Fox Model B side by side,

1075
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 2: double trigger. My dad when he got out of World

1076
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 2: War two, he was alive, He got on went to

1077
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 2: the hardware store. He was gonna go hunting, and bought

1078
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 2: him that gun for ten dollars used and it's now

1079
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,479
Speaker 2: one of my favorite guns. And so he then bought

1080
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 2: some bamboo fly rods, and uh, that's kind of the

1081
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,720
Speaker 2: story of my daddy after World War two and hunting

1082
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 2: and fishing. But as time went on, didn't have any money,

1083
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 2: and I just loved the marriage of metal the wood.

1084
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: And Uh.

1085
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 2: I went hunting with a guy and he had hollering

1086
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 2: and holloing hammer guns and he handed me one and

1087
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 2: we went hunting. And it's just so much fun to

1088
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 2: cock those hammers. So before they figured out how to

1089
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 2: put the hammers internally and the cock them when you

1090
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 2: open when the gun opened, cock them, the hammers were

1091
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 2: on the outside and so you cocked the hammers and

1092
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 2: you had a safety and just like any normal gun.

1093
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 2: So the hammers are cought, and it was just so

1094
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 2: much fun shooting it. You don't see the hammers when

1095
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 2: you shoulder the gun when you mount it. And so

1096
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 2: the first gun that I ordered was a sixteen Gage

1097
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: and Purdy was happened to be in town. I asked

1098
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 2: them to meet with me. That took me to dinner,

1099
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 2: thought them. I wanted to order the sixteen, and I

1100
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 2: wanted to reserve the four ten, the twenty eight, the

1101
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 2: twenty having the sixteen made and the twelve the serial

1102
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 2: number consecutive, because I was going to order all of

1103
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 2: them over time.

1104
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: But how would the serial number be consecutive. They've reserved them.

1105
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: Oh I got okay, yeah, so they reserved the serial numbers.

1106
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: I see, so those were gonna be my serial numbers

1107
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: when I ordered the guns. So ordered the sixteen and

1108
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: that was the sixteen Gays like my daddy's fox.

1109
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 2: And so I just loved hunting with a gun. I

1110
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 2: kill a white tail with it, turkey squirrels, killing the

1111
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 2: limit of gray squirrels. That holding up a two hundred

1112
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 2: thousand dollars shotgun. It's kind of fun. And that's one

1113
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 2: of my favorite pictures. But anyway, so I started ordering

1114
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 2: the other guns. But they told me, they said, will,

1115
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 2: we don't have plans to ever make a four ten

1116
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 2: or a twenty eight and I hammerd gun with ejectors.

1117
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 2: We just don't even have the plans for it.

1118
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1119
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 2: And I said, well, start working, because I'm going to

1120
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 2: order them. If you want the money, yeah, I'm going

1121
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 2: to order them. And so over time they finally decided

1122
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 2: to build the four ten. They built ten. They only

1123
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 2: built ten, huh Gordy's in Houston, about five of them.

1124
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 2: Four of them were bought at the SCI Show, and

1125
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 2: one of them's mine. Mine's the only one that's different.

1126
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 2: I have modified beavertail and mine have a special bird

1127
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 2: engraved on each gun. And so I ordered that gun,

1128
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 2: and then I ordered the twenty eight. The twenty eight

1129
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,959
Speaker 2: is the only twenty eight in existence. It's a twenty

1130
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 2: eight gauge Hamry gun with ejectors. It's it's my favorite

1131
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 2: upland gun. And the four to ten costs two hundred

1132
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 2: and ninety five thousand dollars. God, and it is there,

1133
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 2: and they're beautiful and they're exquisite and when you close them,

1134
00:58:55,600 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 2: they go because they're they're so tight. I was in

1135
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 2: Arizona hunting with my twenty eight, and I don't know how,

1136
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 2: all of a sudden shot reloading the gun and it

1137
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 2: wouldn't close, and I went, oh my gosh, what is

1138
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: going on? The gun would not close, and I didn't

1139
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 2: want to force it. So I'm looking at it. A

1140
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 2: piece of sand had gotten into the breach.

1141
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: That's how tight it is.

1142
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 2: That's how tight it is. I blew out, that's saying.

1143
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 2: And so I just the guns are just a joy

1144
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 2: to shoot, there's a joy to handle. Of course they're

1145
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 2: all fit to me, you know, made measure much for me.

1146
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 2: But when we when we did the initial gathering of information,

1147
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 2: all these conservation groups, the Congression of Sportsman's Foundation du

1148
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 2: rm F, NWTF and Coiling Pheasants came to my home

1149
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 2: in Mississippi and we took them out to a real

1150
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 2: nice sporting range that have atlease h l i Ce.

1151
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: Some people call them zz bird targets there.

1152
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: I'm not tracking what you mean by that.

1153
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Haalise is a as as a target with two

1154
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 2: fan blades on it and so it's out in a

1155
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 2: box and you. It starts spinning when you when you

1156
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 2: say I'm ready the target. There are five album So

1157
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 2: there's five boxes with five spinning fans with a target

1158
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 2: in the center. And so when you say pull, one

1159
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 2: of those is going to go and you don't know.

1160
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 5: What you want?

1161
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: I got you and one it was gonna pigeons. Clay

1162
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: pigeon is going to drop into one of those fans

1163
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: and spit it out.

1164
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 2: But it's already there. It's not a clay pigeon. It's

1165
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 2: a plastic pigeon. It's a plastic clayton and it's made

1166
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 2: do mimic box pigeon shooting, which started in Europe when

1167
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 2: they used to that was the big shooting event.

1168
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: I'm back to not understanding what's it called healase.

1169
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: H E L I c E or zz bird.

1170
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: Is it dumb that I don't know this? No?

1171
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 2: Okay, A lot of people don't know about it, okay,

1172
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 2: I mean police. It's a specialized discipline of shooting and

1173
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: it's a big competition. The world championship this year is

1174
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 2: in Italy. Last year I think it was in Cyprus, Greece.

1175
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,439
Speaker 2: So anyway, you say pull and one of those five

1176
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 2: targets is going to go. It's gonna that. You don't

1177
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 2: know whether it's going to go straight up the fan.

1178
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 2: The machine is oscillating, so they might go straight up,

1179
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 2: straight away, straight left, straight right. It's crazy what it

1180
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 2: can do. And so you're sitting there ready and your

1181
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 2: eyes have to be blended over the five targets. So

1182
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 2: when one of them goes, you got to go to

1183
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 2: it and kill it. So we lined up all five

1184
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 2: of the conservation group four, ten, twenty eight, twenty sixteen,

1185
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 2: and twelve, and we made all the targets go one

1186
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 2: at a time, one, two, three, four or five. Nobody

1187
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 2: missed and it was just beautiful, really, yeah, seeing everybody

1188
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 2: shoot those guns and enjoy them. And so that was

1189
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 2: kind of one of the scenes. You'll you probably can

1190
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 2: see that on that The Truth About Conservation site. Probably

1191
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 2: that's probably a video of that on there. God, but

1192
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 2: the whole effort here was to engage these conservation groups.

1193
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: Well you got back up, I'm not done hearing about

1194
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: the whole thing. When you were accumulating them, were you

1195
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 1: thinking to yourself and someday I'll give them all the way.

1196
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 2: I didn't know what I was going to do I

1197
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 2: felt like I could find some way to help raise

1198
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 2: money for the hunting and fishing community. I just didn't

1199
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 2: know what it was going to be. And so as

1200
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 2: I would attend the decks a limited convention or the

1201
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 2: National Wald Turkey Federation convention, I would find the philanthropy

1202
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 2: organized people who accept money and all that kind of stuff,

1203
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 2: and I say, look, I got these set of guns.

1204
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 2: I would like to give them away to conservation. I'm

1205
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 2: trying to figure out how to do that, and I

1206
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 2: want these groups to share in the money. These are

1207
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 2: people who've been a part of my life. The RMF

1208
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 2: is such an incredible organization and it's done so much

1209
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 2: for my life. And the National Wild Ticket Federation and

1210
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 2: Ducks and Limit and quail and pheasants, I mean, they

1211
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 2: are just incredible organizations. And the Congressional Sportsmans Foundations who

1212
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 2: protects our hunting and fishing and trapping rights at the local,

1213
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 2: state and federal level. I mean, how can I do

1214
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 2: something to give back and thank them for what they've

1215
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 2: done to help protect those rights and to help grow

1216
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 2: other people being associated with hunting and fishing and trapping.

1217
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 2: And so one day this Congressional Sportsment Foundation call me,

1218
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 2: and they said, look, we got this campaign. It's not

1219
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 2: Hunt Fish listen, it's I hunt, I Fish, I vote go.

1220
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 2: And they said, we want you to be a part

1221
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 2: of this campaign. I said, look, that's fine, I'll do that.

1222
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 2: I'll do it here.

1223
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: We mean too.

1224
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 2: I'm not really interested in being a poster boy, but

1225
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 2: I will. I said, but I've got these guns. How

1226
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 2: can we leverage these guns? How can I cause a

1227
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 2: ripple effect? How can I throw a little pebble into

1228
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 2: a perfectly still body of water and have it become

1229
01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 2: a wave? Those are my words. And I was talking

1230
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 2: to a lady named Corin Johann. She was the director

1231
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 2: of marketing. She's no longer there, but she says, let's

1232
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 2: think about it. Let me talk to Jeff Crane, the

1233
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,919
Speaker 2: head of Congressional Sportsman, and to Kevin Perry, and listen,

1234
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 2: let me see what do we can come with her.

1235
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 2: She calls him back. She goes, so you want to

1236
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 2: give us these guns, and then we think we can

1237
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 2: auction them and all the money and the proceeds, and

1238
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 2: well you'll have to have them a praise and anything

1239
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 2: over a praise value will can be written off because

1240
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 2: they're going to go to all five O one see

1241
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 2: for the public companies, and so that's how all came about.

1242
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 2: And that's what we did. We created the campaign articles

1243
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 2: in all these magazines alerting everybody so some hopefully some

1244
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 2: guy that's got a real niceness day who wants to

1245
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 2: give back to conservation will pay more than their than

1246
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 2: they're a praise value.

1247
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: Are you guys being public about the praise value? Is

1248
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: there a minimum?

1249
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 2: I don't know how. Buck Island is the auction house.

1250
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 2: They auction off the finest guns in the world, and

1251
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 2: we chose them because there is a.

1252
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 1: That's where we bought that punk gun from.

1253
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1254
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, we met those guys at at pheasant Fest this

1255
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 3: year and are quail classic and we ran through the hole.

1256
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 2: In Kansas City. Yeah, did you see the primost guns?

1257
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, I was telling you earlier. I

1258
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 3: personally just enjoy the fact that the sixteen gauge is

1259
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 3: noticeably well worn.

1260
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 2: I'm guilty. Yeah, yeah, the sixth thing has a little

1261
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 2: more wear on it than the other ones.

1262
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 3: Well, to me, it makes it all more valuable because you're,

1263
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 3: you know, just like anything in these days, if you

1264
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 3: can buy whatever, but if that thing has a story. Yeah,

1265
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 3: it can be a lot more valuable. Yeah, And and

1266
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 3: so the whole set kind of has that like it

1267
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 3: is like fine fine stuff. Anybody can see that. You're like,

1268
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 3: this is something that is set apart by craftsmanship. Yeah,

1269
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 3: and there's there's a couple of those guns don't look

1270
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 3: like they've been touched at all, but I'm sure they've

1271
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 3: been cleaned. And yeah, but the sixteen has been because

1272
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 3: I think you put extra swivel studs in there and

1273
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 3: stuff like that.

1274
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I had swivel studs put on the sixteen

1275
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 2: because it's my duck gun. When I'm putting out the decoys,

1276
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 2: I slinging on my shoulder a little, did I know,

1277
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 2: I'm scratching it and back there was suspender spender buckles

1278
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 2: and yeah, you know, anyway, I had to have it,

1279
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 2: you know, kind of touched up.

1280
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, the Rock Island folks, so they have a

1281
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 3: whole Uh, it's online. I'm sure I haven't looked at

1282
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 3: it online, but I have a big catalog in the

1283
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 3: whole collection, and.

1284
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:45,479
Speaker 5: And there is.

1285
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 3: We should look it up right now. But there is

1286
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 3: an appraisal price that has been posted.

1287
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 2: So the gun the guns cost about a million one

1288
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,919
Speaker 2: and they have praised for eight hundred because they are

1289
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 2: they are used. Oh I see, anything anything that's paid

1290
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 2: over the a praise value can be written off.

1291
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 3: Right, But those guns, no matter who they belong to,

1292
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 3: typically go for over a praise value.

1293
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1294
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, those those parties do. I mean they're a major.

1295
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. But there will never ever be another set. So

1296
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 2: Rock Island went to London and interviewed Nick Carlo, who

1297
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 2: is the curator of the London Guns World, and he

1298
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 2: sits right there and says, this will never ever be

1299
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 2: never been done and will never be done not again. Yeah,

1300
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 2: one of a kind one up again.

1301
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1302
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 2: So anyway, so you know, you you go and you

1303
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 2: think about what what somebody can do. So what I

1304
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 2: want is for other people also to think. Other people

1305
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 2: have things that they've acquired in life.

1306
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that are valuable. I'm touching one right here, buddy.

1307
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 2: Nobody want Nobody wants your cash or moonshine. I may

1308
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 2: want something for some bait. I may want that. No

1309
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 2: telling what you catch. But anyway, so other people hopefully

1310
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 2: will start a ripple effect in that way, yep, that

1311
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 2: other people can think, well you know I've got I've

1312
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 2: got this beautiful painting or I've got this gun, or

1313
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 2: I got this and I'd like to give it to

1314
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 2: Congressional I mean, they are working their butts off, like

1315
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 2: the Colorado Initiative to stop all the anti hunting stuff.

1316
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,679
Speaker 2: And you know, if they don't get on the front

1317
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 2: end of it and provide the money and the resources

1318
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 2: and tap into all the people that they have access

1319
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 2: to to tell the story, we're gonna lose.

1320
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 1: Hit Hit me with a couple more details, just just

1321
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 1: for folks listening the auction. What are the the what

1322
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,440
Speaker 1: is it a specific Sorry, having a hard time communicating.

1323
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:49,679
Speaker 1: Is it like a specific moment?

1324
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 2: December fifth of December seventh?

1325
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: Okay? The parties like you got to have like so

1326
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: it's not like open for a long bid process that

1327
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 1: like it's a four sky our bid.

1328
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's go start and then it'll probably be the fifth,

1329
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 2: the fifth, sixth, and seven. It'll probably be the fifth

1330
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 2: and sixth. They haven't neared that window down. I'll be

1331
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 2: there for the option. Well you will in Dallas, ye,

1332
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 2: my wife and I will.

1333
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 1: Man, I gotta check what I got going on.

1334
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 2: Seventh is Pearl Harbor.

1335
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: It's an auspicious day, Yeah, really that's pretty exciting, man, Yeah,

1336
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 1: it is.

1337
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 2: And and you know, I just can't say enough about

1338
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 2: these organizations and what they've gone to bat for us

1339
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 2: and all of us hunters and fishermen and trappers and

1340
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,719
Speaker 2: and if we can do something, we should.

1341
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: That's generous of you, man, That's that's real admirable. Sounds

1342
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:44,879
Speaker 1: like such a cool collection too.

1343
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, after I I got the

1344
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 2: twenty eight, you know, my wife was looking at the order.

1345
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 2: You know, it's really expensive, and we were she said,

1346
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 2: I'm going to go to Junichor that's a really fancy

1347
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 2: jewelry store in town. I went, I said, okay, and

1348
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 2: she goes, I'm really looking at a really nice ring.

1349
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 2: I said, you can't catch me.

1350
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: Okay. So December is coming up. We'll remind people as

1351
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 1: we go along. But in December, the collection it's called

1352
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: the Primost Guns Like, what's the what's the sort of.

1353
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 2: Slang Will Primost Party collection?

1354
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:33,759
Speaker 1: I guess so will I like that, the Will Primost

1355
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: party collection. The Will Primost Party Collection will go and

1356
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 1: then though that money will be divided uh by five

1357
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: conservation organizations. The Will Primost has identified as having changed his.

1358
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 2: Life his life changed, many of our lives changed, many

1359
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 2: of our lives. And Rock Island there is a buyer's

1360
01:10:56,000 --> 01:11:00,040
Speaker 2: commission and a seller's commission, and they have forgiven the

1361
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 2: seller's commission, which is going to be hundreds of thousand dollars.

1362
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 2: They've given that back already. So we're already own a

1363
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 2: role here raising money with this deal. M hm.

1364
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 1: Has anyone reached out to you yet to tell you, like,

1365
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to be there and I'm bidden.

1366
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 2: I've had several people say I'm really interested. Okay, you

1367
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 2: think they're serious. Yeah.

1368
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 1: No, one's tried to pre empt.

1369
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 2: Not that I know of, and I don't know how

1370
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 2: they do that.

1371
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, got it, got it. Lastly, Steward Link. I hadn't

1372
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 1: heard about this.

1373
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. So steward Link is stewardlink dot com. It is

1374
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 2: a group of tremendous adronomist forsters, people that have all

1375
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 2: the degrees and all the certifications for writing conservation programs.

1376
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 2: A lot of these people are former National Resource Conservation

1377
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 2: Service in ours part of the US Department of Agriculture

1378
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 2: office that have come together. Just like a CPA represents

1379
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 2: you to the irs, the people at stewart Link represent

1380
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 2: the steward of the land, the person who owns the

1381
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 2: land in pharmacy or the person who leases in the farming.

1382
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 2: They're the steward that ever controls the land and they

1383
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:27,759
Speaker 2: represent them and help them access the government programs, which.

1384
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: Is probably like a byzantine structure that's hard to navigate.

1385
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 2: And there's all kinds of issues with it. Everything's ranked.

1386
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 2: So when you the Contravation Stewardship Program CSP program, If

1387
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 2: you apply for the for a Contravation Stewardship program and

1388
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 2: you apply, everybody in here applies. We all have five

1389
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 2: hundred acres, thousand akres, two and fifty acres. We get

1390
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 2: ranked who has the most opportunity to put the most

1391
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 2: conservation on the ground. But I hired Stewart Link, and

1392
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 2: Stewart Link knew that if they would write certain plans.

1393
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 2: These are these activity plans, Conservation Activity Plans, Conservation Activity

1394
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 2: c AP CAT plan. I think the name that academ

1395
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:10,640
Speaker 2: may have changed recently with they are changing stuff all

1396
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 2: the time. But anyway, these plans, the plans were written

1397
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 2: for me. For mine, I was going to do a

1398
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 2: nutrient plan, ok. I was going to do a water

1399
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 2: controvation plan, a variable rate pesticide plan, a variable rate

1400
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 2: fertilizer plan. And I had all these plans written and

1401
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 2: didn't cost me a penny, and that's part of my application.

1402
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 2: And I ranked the highs and I got the forward

1403
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 2: one thousand dollars.

1404
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 3: I mean, a big, big problem, right is you have producers, farmers,

1405
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 3: ranchers that are working sixteen hour days and then in

1406
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 3: order to understand this stuff apply for it, have the

1407
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 3: back and forth that takes a hell of a lot

1408
01:13:56,439 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 3: of time to at the back end of that day. Yeah,

1409
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 3: and there's huge, huge bottlenecks in these systems.

1410
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 2: And the n r CS employees there's there's right here

1411
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 2: on Main Street and both of them, there's in our

1412
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 2: CS office. Those people are great, but there's only so

1413
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 2: many hours in the day, and you know, and there's

1414
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 2: so many there's these plans. Mississippi, because we're in Mississippi's

1415
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:23,640
Speaker 2: where we started. It's number one in CSP, it's the

1416
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 2: number one state in all the country. We went to California,

1417
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 2: the whole state of California had only four CSP prands

1418
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:33,480
Speaker 2: that have ever been approved.

1419
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 1: MM.

1420
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 2: So now we're going to New We're in where New York,

1421
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 2: Indiana Ohio. We've got employees in those states and we're

1422
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 2: constantly meeting with farmers and helping them understand what's available.

1423
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 1: Let's say, just help me out. So I'm a farmer

1424
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 1: in give me a state where you guys were, Wisconsin. Okay,

1425
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:58,520
Speaker 1: I'm a farmer Wisconsin, and I have a thousand acres

1426
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: and and I want to know even just what is

1427
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: available for conservation funding from my land. That's correct. That's

1428
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,639
Speaker 1: the first step is call and be like, I'm managing

1429
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: a thousand acres for my family.

1430
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 2: It's located in this county. Here's my farm number. We

1431
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 2: can access to all that and look at everything and

1432
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,679
Speaker 2: give you the information, and you don't have to hires.

1433
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 2: If we can help you, we will help you.

1434
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 1: That's and that would be like questions like should I

1435
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 1: put stuff in CRP? Is there a way that I

1436
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 1: should be categorizing portions of my land for the tax

1437
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 1: structures or whatever?

1438
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 2: Exactly? I mean, it's just a tremendous amount of opportunity fornice.

1439
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 2: Let's say you've got a piece of land and next

1440
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 2: to you it's a piece of land that's got wr

1441
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 2: E Waterfowl Reserve. He's been on it which was a

1442
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 2: former you know, wetlands Protection plan and it was planted

1443
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 2: trees and you it borders you, and you want to

1444
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 2: put it on yours. Well, guess what, you already rank

1445
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 2: higher than most because you border apart already has Oh god,

1446
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 2: so we know that. So we oh, we need to

1447
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 2: focus on this. And then there's equal there's equip. You've

1448
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 2: got a piece of land you're you're in Montana and

1449
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 2: it's a little bit rolling and you don't have any

1450
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 2: money or barely making it trying to grow weed or whatever.

1451
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 3: You're doing familiar, but you need to level that land.

1452
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 2: If you could level it and you could irrigate it

1453
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 2: a different way and so that all the water would

1454
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 2: flow correctly, slowly and maximize the water that you have

1455
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 2: some water, but you need more. Da da da da.

1456
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 2: We can write you an equip plan and the government

1457
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 2: will come in and give you money to level that land,

1458
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:50,719
Speaker 2: to move the dirt and to make.

1459
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 3: It and then so on the implementation side of things

1460
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 3: is that is that where folks start cutting cutting checks

1461
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 3: to Steward Steward Link.

1462
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 2: Just you don't you don't pay Stuart Link a dime

1463
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 2: unless you get approved for a program nice, and then

1464
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 2: you don't pay. You don't pay Stuart Link a dime

1465
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 2: until you get the money. Let's say you qualified, and

1466
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 2: you might. You've qualified for a four and a thousand

1467
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 2: dollars prob you get the you get the program, you

1468
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,679
Speaker 2: pay Steward Link typically twenty percent. You get the money,

1469
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,600
Speaker 2: then you write them a check. Yep, cool, So you

1470
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:26,799
Speaker 2: don't you don't spend anything.

1471
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to get too far into the details here,

1472
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 1: but does that twenty percent that's got to come out

1473
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 1: of pocket though, because you got to put the grant

1474
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: on the ground.

1475
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 2: You're not paying the twenty percent until you get the money.

1476
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:40,679
Speaker 2: That means you've got it, and it's happening.

1477
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 1: But let's say I. Let's say okay, let's say I

1478
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 1: apply and I get one hundred dollars, and the assumption

1479
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 1: is I'm gonna take the hundred dollars and put the

1480
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 1: hundred dollars onto the land to the program.

1481
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 2: They're gonna pay the money. It's all. It's all under

1482
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 2: You've got to do what's supposed to be done.

1483
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 1: Yes, So I'm saying, so I got to go find

1484
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 1: the twenty dollars because I'd taken one hundred. I got

1485
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 1: to go find twenty dollars somewhere else for steward.

1486
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 2: Yeah that or you take it out of that.

1487
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 1: Oh so that's what I'm saying. There is a way

1488
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 1: to get it out of that. Oh yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,

1489
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 1: because that was part of implementation.

1490
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's part of it. It's part of the plan

1491
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:22,839
Speaker 2: to implement all the things, and we will help monitor

1492
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 2: to make sure you're doing you're part of the game

1493
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 2: because you're not just going to get this money and

1494
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 2: not do it. You've got to spend the money in

1495
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:29,759
Speaker 2: the right place.

1496
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 1: You talk about like implementation. There's a funny story where

1497
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: I got a buddy that had a he's got his

1498
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 1: land in CRP. The CRP program, it's you know, it's

1499
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 1: strict right what you're doing, don't do well. They had

1500
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 1: a deer blind set on a hay wagon and one

1501
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 1: day he was told, hey, you got farm equipment on

1502
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 1: the CRP. He's like, no, we don't. He realized it

1503
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 1: was a blind on a hay wagon and they were

1504
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 1: just look when they do they like drive by and

1505
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:07,679
Speaker 1: look and he's like, oh, wow, you're right. They moved

1506
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 1: they moved away. You've got to do It's like dudes

1507
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 1: come by and they like, see what's going on that

1508
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 1: you can get You can get dinged.

1509
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 2: You got to do what you're supposed to do to

1510
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 2: implement the program properly, to put conservation on the ground.

1511
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 2: Everything flows downstream. If we use less fertilizer, could we

1512
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:30,639
Speaker 2: variable rate it rather than just broadcasting everywhere, then we're

1513
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 2: sending less nitrogen, less less nutrients downstream, which over blooms

1514
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 2: stuff and screws up the creeks. So there's a reason

1515
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 2: for it.

1516
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, excellent, man. And anything else you want to anything

1517
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,640
Speaker 1: else you need to tell us about from from uh

1518
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 1: will Primo's land.

1519
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:56,759
Speaker 2: Something that's kind of funny. So this this this place

1520
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:58,480
Speaker 2: in Virginia called the Homestead.

1521
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 1: Okay, it's old.

1522
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 2: Oh the first US Open sporty Clay Championship was hell there.

1523
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 2: It's in Hot Springs, Virginia. If I got the city

1524
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 2: creg and they contacted me about the gun giveaway, and

1525
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 2: they said, we want to do something to help you

1526
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 2: with that deal. We want to attract more people. And

1527
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 2: I said, okay, what you want to do said we

1528
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 2: want to have a shoot and we want to call

1529
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 2: it the Will Primos Invitational huh. That kind of made

1530
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 2: me laugh. I said, okay, do you have to shoot

1531
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 2: very good if you enter this thing. So that's happening,

1532
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,640
Speaker 2: that's coming up in July, and it's going to be

1533
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 2: an exclusive set of people who are interested in bidding

1534
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 2: on the guns that are coming.

1535
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 1: Can people go get on the list?

1536
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 2: You get, Yeah, you pay, and so much of the

1537
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,799
Speaker 2: proceeds to be a part of this exclusive omni resort

1538
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 2: dinner meals shooting goes to the Congressional Sportsmans Foundation.

1539
01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: Okay, so if someone is kicking the idea around getting

1540
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 1: ready for a bid in December and they want to

1541
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,759
Speaker 1: experience the guns, here's.

1542
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:07,680
Speaker 2: The guns are going to be there.

1543
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:10,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, so here's an opportunity to show up. And yeah,

1544
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 1: here's an opportunity to show up, and.

1545
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 7: It will give you the hard sell personally.

1546
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. I might even

1547
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 2: let somebody shoot one of the guns that that if that,

1548
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 2: if insurance will cover it?

1549
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 1: Are they already out of your name? They're not in

1550
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 1: your name anymore.

1551
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:31,440
Speaker 2: They're in the Congressional Sports Town that name, gotcha, gotcha?

1552
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 2: And Rock Island carries the insurance.

1553
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 1: Where do they sit right now?

1554
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 2: Right now? They're in Baltimore, Maryland at the du President's Convention. Okay,

1555
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 2: they're being shown.

1556
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 1: Right, so they're on the road.

1557
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just like they were at yeah, at the city.

1558
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I know the Rock Island Boys were telling

1559
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 3: me that the part of the reason for going to

1560
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 3: party and talking with was to figure out what the

1561
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 3: insurance price needs to be, h what what type of

1562
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 3: coverage they need to have. And it's a heck of

1563
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:01,719
Speaker 3: a lot more than eight hundred thousand.

1564
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 1: The Rock Island Boys sounds like something if you're reading

1565
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 1: about the Civil War. Yeah, it's like someone that took

1566
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:11,679
Speaker 1: the backside of the hill oft Antietam or something.

1567
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 2: Kevin Hogan, one of the odors of Rock Out. They're

1568
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:21,520
Speaker 2: incredible people. They're great conservations.

1569
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 1: Is that right? Okay, that's good to know they're they're

1570
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 1: for us. Good. All right, man, Well, thanks for coming on.

1571
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking the time.

1572
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 2: Man, it's awesome to be with you. You are nuts. I'm

1573
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 2: gona tell you what that castor and moosh. You know.

1574
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:39,600
Speaker 1: I've often said I got a problem where like I

1575
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 1: I like if I bring this up all time, but

1576
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,599
Speaker 1: like if someone's telling me about a health problem, I'll

1577
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:47,640
Speaker 1: start feeling like I got the health problem. Do you

1578
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Someone's like, oh, you know my

1579
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 1: uncle had to stickular cancer. I'll get like a terrible ache.

1580
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 1: It's just and now I've gotten my head like, I'm like, well,

1581
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 1: what would happen if you drank a little bit of that?

1582
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 3: I thought you were gonna say, now, if you just

1583
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:06,600
Speaker 3: take a finger, uh moonshine cast or here's what ails you.

1584
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 2: I'm telling you that that stuff has such a unique

1585
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 2: you need to I mean you need patent it or something.

1586
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some commercial application. I'm not sure what it is.

1587
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 3: Well, I was wondering if the lights went out, if

1588
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 3: we could just light it on fire, and the.

1589
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:26,559
Speaker 1: Great candle Man, Yeah, next time you come out, we'll

1590
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,719
Speaker 1: have a plan for that job. Phil, cover your ears.

1591
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 2: Phil, y'all awesome.

1592
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. Everybody will, Primos, thank you

1593
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 1: very much