WEBVTT - Contact w/ Nicole Sullivan 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.000 Of the law and order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:06.800 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:07.640 vicious felonies. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:28.400 These episodes are based on. These are our stories. Done done, Hello, 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:31.840 and welcome back to That's Messed Up n SVU podcast. 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:35.199 I'm your host Kara Klink and I'm Liza Traeger. 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:38.720 We're coming to you fast from We're actually really slow 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:41.520 and we're a very long podcast, but we do talk fast. 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:46.360 We talked SVU True Crime. We have an incredible guest. 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:49.680 It was hard to edit because we talked for an 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:53.240 hour and a half, So stay tuned for that joy. 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:58.560 And we're actually recording fresh off of our Palm Springs vacation. 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.240 Oh, we had a lot luxurious vacation in Palm Springs, 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:06.560 or I was without children for two full days, two 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:10.680 and a half full days, and it was glorious, such 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:12.319 a nice house. We had so much fun. 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:14.560 One of our friends napped and he got up and 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:17.760 he goes, no one needed me, No one needed me 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:18.520 for anything. 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:23.640 He was like so exciting. Like I woke up one 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:25.920 day from falling asleep reading a book on the on 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:29.520 an outside piece of furniture, and like everybody was just 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:32.440 quietly doing their own thing. People were either sleeping or 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:33.920 they were in the pool, but they were in the 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:37.200 pool being quiet, Like everyone was just having like a 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.600 collective quiet time. And I was like, did something happen? 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:43.440 Where is everybody? Like I was so disoriented. 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:46.399 We all just said a little mushrooms and then we 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:48.600 if you guys don't have these, if you're in a pool, 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:51.920 one of the best inventions. It's like there's a blow 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:54.320 up tube and a blow up tube small, like a 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:57.680 maybe a foot and a half two feet attached. 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:57.880 By a net. 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:01.080 So you put your body on the net and you're 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:04.400 like feet and head dangle off the floaties, but you're 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:08.400 just fully weightless in the pool. And then I sat 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:10.440 in it with my arms up for a while and 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:11.799 you're just weightless. 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:16.080 It's cool. They're great. You can't imagine station. You can't 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.280 imagine you're like, this little flimsy thing's not gonna hold 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:20.280 my whole body weight, and it does. It feels like 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:22.480 you're just like in a bed in the water. It's great. No. 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:25.000 Our friend who showed up the last day of the trip, 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.520 I was like, here, use this, and he was like, 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:28.519 so skeptical. 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:29.600 He's like, what's the catch? 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.120 Like, he was just so not into it, and then 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:35.600 I put him in there and he was like, oh, yeah, 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:36.320 this is nice. 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:37.679 Sorry if you were. 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:39.840 Trying to get one on me, I'm like, ye't no tricks, 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:45.080 just treats, okay, tricks like I am a I like 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:46.440 to float U. 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:47.920 Yeah. 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:50.120 It was And I've never been in a pool that 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:53.200 was so like windy. I would like, not whindy. How 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:55.920 would you say it? It's like you walk in shallow 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:58.440 but then it curves so there's like two full pools 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.440 within a pool, and then there's like in the middle 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:06.040 an infinity ledge into like the desert mountains, but then 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:09.800 in the center center pool a hot tub, and to 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:11.560 the right of that a swim up bar. 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:13.920 I mean, there's like all kinds of like and so 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:16.600 many ledges. We've talked about ledges before on this podcast. 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.920 Just like it's like a big horseshoe kind of but 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:23.240 very large, and a little bridge that takes you to 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.960 the hot tub. You could swim under the bridge. It 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:29.680 was fun. We had a blast. And Lisa's bracelets, I know, 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:32.040 she talked about them. She made bracelets for the birthday boy. 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:34.440 They were, well, I should have given them days before 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:35.480 so we could have wear them all week. 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:36.760 It just never seemed right. 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:38.800 I was in my head about these bracelets and what 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:40.640 needed to happen, and it's like I should have just 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:42.920 given it to him day one and he could have 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:45.080 passed it out and we could have all enjoyed the bracelets. 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:47.000 I don't know why I waited to have it, looking 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:49.200 for a perfect time. We kept looking, We're like, this 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:50.880 is it, this is the moment, and then one person 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:52.839 would walk away. We'd be like, it's ruined, we can't 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:53.640 give the bracelets. 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:55.800 Well, then I ended up doing it while our one 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.560 friend got COVID and had to pass out and never 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:00.800 be seen again. Who planned the whole trip and you 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:06.320 know sponsored it. We were a little kittens. Yeah on 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:11.240 the screen, Yeah it was. It was so great and 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:14.480 our friend cooked. I mean, it was just like, I 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:22.800 don't think I've ever truly experienced such expectationless hang for days. 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:25.400 It was like, you want to do drugs, do not? 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:27.360 You don't have to drink, go to bed. I mean 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:29.400 my friend, my best friend goes to bed at nine. 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:30.920 I hate her. I'd punch her in the face every 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:31.919 second night. If I could. 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:34.840 I know, this is a podcast about abuse and we're 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:38.520 anti but like this bitch is always going to bed early. 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:40.760 But like, yeah, people, I was the last to bed 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:44.880 every night, but I stayed up late one night with you. Yeah, 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:47.360 I was like middle of the road. And then the 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:49.800 last night I actually regret. I really wanted to stay 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:51.800 up later that night. I know because I thought when 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:53.600 you woke up from the couch you'd come. We were 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:55.800 playing the movie game in the in the hot tub. 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:00.320 You were Yeah, because I knew that. I knew you 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:02.760 were sleeping on the couch. Because then when we walked out, 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:05.360 people didn't realize you still weren't there. They were like, whoa, 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:07.760 I've thought I thought she was here. So yeah, you 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:08.839 went to bed pretty early. 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:12.000 But nothing like it just was like eat when you want, 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:15.279 don't eat when you have this thing, float a little, 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:17.320 read a book, have a talk. 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:20.480 Change, and we had some We had some characters like 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:23.480 that our friends got yoga and like this woman came 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:25.680 into taught a bunch of us yoga and it was 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:27.880 like she was the most Palm Springs yoga teacher you 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:29.360 would ever imagine. 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:32.520 And I skipped down on yoga to float with my 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:33.160 three friends. 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:36.640 What was the yoga? What was she like? She was 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.840 just like you know, she was like very tan and 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:43.039 tattooed with like these flower bell bottoms on and was 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:46.840 just like yeah, just breathe into your practice and like 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:49.920 very just a total cartoon character of a yoga and structure, 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:53.760 you know. And then we got an amazing man in 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:55.240 our lives. I'll let you tell about him. 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:57.480 I didn't connect with him the way you all did. 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:58.680 It made me uncomfortable. 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:04.520 I didn't it and I I didn't. The sprinklers were 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:07.640 a gift for me, but I was surprised. I was 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:09.720 surprised he was the way he was. I will say that, 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:12.599 like I was laughing because I was like this feels 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:14.800 like a sketch or like are we being punked? Like 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:17.960 essentially we had a habachi chef and he came on 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:20.520 and get made like it was amazing, Like we felt 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:22.479 like real housewives, like just a dinner. We were like 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:25.240 looking at the mountains outside dinner. Very nice. But he 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:28.600 was doing a lot of like well be sporting. Yeah no, no, 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:30.919 I was just yetding. He was doing it like he 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:34.760 was if you imagine like so like ketch up with 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:38.000 mustard bottles from like uh or salt and vinegar bottles 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.720 from like subway. It was like those filled with sake 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:43.080 and he was just like squirting it into our mouths 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.200 and everybody had to like count. It was like very 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:50.120 for fradish, you know, like like one, two three. I like, 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:51.840 I just kept doing it, and I would count good 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:52.120 at it. 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:54.600 And he would be squeezing this liquor in my mouth, 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:57.279 but I would still have like remnants of foods, like 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:59.880 the pieces of rice would be floating in the soji 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.840 in my mouth, and I'm like, I don't want to 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:04.640 do that. And every time he came near me with 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:08.080 those bottles, I'm like, I don't want to spill anymore. 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:12.320 But then he came out with a gatorade giant jug 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.960 of liquor and that he went. He squirt it into 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.760 my mouth and he kept going juicy, juicy, and I 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.600 was like, yea, I'll take some juicy, but I just 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.800 but we're not even on the first or second court. 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:26.880 He's still like chopping up stuff. We're not even at 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.560 the first course. He's chopping he's making stuff. And I 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:33.280 hear it, I hear the and I go oh no, 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:35.440 and it was like a movie. I'm so glad to 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:39.080 have experienced it. The sprinklers go on everywhere, the lawn 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:40.760 is covered in sprinklers. 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:42.120 He keeps cooking. 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.760 He is unfazed, and I am joyed that I get 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.480 to leave and watch pandemonium. 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:51.040 But then I got to lead. We like, you know, 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:53.080 shut the power off. I like having an adventure. 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:57.840 But yeah, I loved being like, it's just so I 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:00.560 kept thinking of parasite, to be honest, was like, were 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:05.480 these like people in this giant house and this? Yeah, 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.240 but he was happy when the sprinklers went off on us. 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:11.560 Yeah, but he was also like it felt like he 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.960 was doing a character. He was just like juicy juicy drink. 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:18.200 More like, and he was getting hammered. We're like, are 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:21.480 you driving like what he was? He kept being like, 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:23.600 you can assign the juicy juicy and then he would 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:27.960 juicy juicy in his mouth like he was getting fucking hammered. 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:31.920 It just I don't Yeah, I liked the first thing 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:33.960 when our friend cooked and we got to just sit down. 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.400 Yeah, he was a wild character. But the yum yum 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:43.200 sauce was delicious. It was very It was mayo. Of course, 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:44.760 we love it. And of course I love it. It 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:46.760 was like a creamy sauce that was delicious. 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.440 But it reminded me of The Simpsons because they like whatever. 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:53.640 It's Marge's twisted world episode with the pretzels, but her 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:59.080 nemeses go into business with like a Fleetipeda truck. I 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.880 talk about this all the time, but like, instead a 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:07.320 full offl they're like crunch patties. But Tahini flavor sauce in. 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:12.400 A yeah yum yum sauce is basically like some kind 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:17.400 of Mayo dressing with spices. But but we oh, but 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:18.880 we're burying the lead. 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.960 Kara and I karaoke until two in the morning, and 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:24.839 except one person was awake. The thing is I did 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.240 I was the first to start karaoke that night around 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.520 six pm when dinner started being cooked or like five, 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:32.760 and I was the last. Like I did karaoke for 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:34.520 five full hours. I don't know how I still have 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:38.200 my throat. But like we were singing Arabian nights, like 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:41.920 we were doing deep cut Disney, not the hits it. 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:47.920 Was we did. We did some Alpha Ba and Glinda 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:51.080 and then we segued into very deep cut Disney. It 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.560 was so crazy I don't even know the words. 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.840 I feel like we we started with Gaga. Well, it 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:00.679 was actually a great experien it's for me and baby. 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:02.440 It's because I felt safe because it was all our friends. 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:04.360 But usually with karaoke, like I don't want to look 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:06.360 at the words. I want to be a performer, Like 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:08.760 I want to know a song inside and out, and 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.160 like I was singing to Green Day songs I didn't 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.320 really know. Like looking at the words is fine, and 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:15.360 I'm kind it's kind of opened me up where I'm 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:17.920 gonna be more free at karaoke to just like pick 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:19.760 a song and do it right. I did try to 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:21.800 do Desposito and that was a mistake. And I don't 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:22.640 know any of those words. 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.839 Also, if you're wondering what happened with the sprinklers, our 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:33.160 friends did go inside and grab towels and just cover 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:36.320 all the sprinklers with towels so that we didn't just 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.680 sit getting soaked. And I thought that we turned the 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:40.840 water off. Oh they did. 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:45.840 When I originally well because we needed the owners of 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:48.120 the house to text us so but before they texted 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:51.080 us back, we were throwing towels everywhere, and then we 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:52.120 went and turned off the water. 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:55.440 Oh okay, smart, Oh my god. I just couldn't believe it. 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:57.360 I was like, I haven't noticed a sprinkler on this 0:10:57.400 --> 0:10:59.800 house in two days. And then the day it comes on, 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.800 we're out there sitting waiting. Oh my god. 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:05.200 So then we came home and then our friend was 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.080 so sick. I've been taking tests like I'm fine, but 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:09.680 not that you guys care. I'm not id you, but 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.120 like you know, I was gonna have one more day 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:15.680 at our friend's house, like to lounge before the flights, 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:17.600 but that was not gonna happen. 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:24.079 And so the New York crew we went to Alcove. Oh, 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:27.280 I love Alcove. I love Alcove. It's one of my 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.600 favorite places in LA. I'm obsessed with it. But I've 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:30.679 never sat at the bar. And we were at the 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:33.800 bar for five hours. Oh my gosh. 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:35.800 And then I was like pretty hammered, and I said, 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.600 do you have a cake flight? And he goes, no, 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.400 but I'll find you a piece of cake. 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.040 And so he got us about to ask you did 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.000 you eat any cake? Because there was cakes are right 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:46.560 near the bar. 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:48.280 Well that's why I was like, I can't choose a cake. 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:50.640 Do you have a little sampler cake platter, and he 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:52.440 was like, no, but we have some deformed cakes you 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:55.280 can have. So he gave us like an ugly piece 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:56.440 of cake that looked gorgeous. 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.280 I love it, but I had graze. 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:02.760 There's a happy I mean, I love alcove in and out. 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:04.600 Give me that tuneam I didn't have the tune them out. 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:06.520 But oh my god, we had Jimmy Johns in the 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:08.600 way out. Is there not a more perfect vacation than 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:12.760 ending on Jimmy John's. No, that's amazing. There was an 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:15.760 Arby's surprise. Our friend loves Arby's. You know, we all 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:19.120 have our secrets, and his friends ordered him Arby's. 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:22.439 Which have you ever had? I had never had Arby's. 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:24.240 I enjoyed my Halopeno poppers. 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:27.000 I was about to say those Jlopano poppers. Yeah, I 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.840 would eat just those. They were fucking incredible. They were good, 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:32.040 better than a restaurant like. I felt like the layers 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:34.800 of the crunch with the cream and the fried were perfect. 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:36.800 Yeah, those were really good. I had a couple of 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.200 Wazzarella sticks and then the people that ordered that got 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:41.199 me an impossible burger because they know I don't do Arby's, 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:44.880 and Arby's doesn't offer really anything for vegetarians, so that 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:46.640 which is weird because I don't think that meat is 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:52.160 actually me like, I wonder. I guess their whole thing 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:53.760 is like, we have the meat, so we can't have 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:55.000 anything else for anybody else. 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.240 But you know, I had two, I had three arby 0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:59.000 sandwiches that we like. I kept making them. 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:03.200 I kept putting my own cheese, oh, microwaving them. It happened. 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:04.880 I don't know what to tell you, guys. You know 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:10.360 what we were living in a life of luxury. Wait, 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:14.840 did you give Rosie her gummy vampires? Loves them? And 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:18.560 she loves them even more Oscar Okay loves them. Keeps 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:20.000 coming home from school and going, can I have a 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:21.480 gummy fang? And I'm like you have to wait till 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:23.600 after dinner And he's like no, he like threw a 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:26.880 fit yesterday because he could have a gummy fang. Loves them. There. 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:28.840 I actually you ate one in front of me and 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:30.800 you were like, eh, not what I was expecting or 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:32.520 not your favorite. I thought that. I think they're delicious. 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.080 I've had a couple of them. Oh good good. I'm like, yeah, 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:36.839 they look like dentures. 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:42.440 Yeah, but yeah, I think I hope everyone gets rich 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:44.640 friends who get them a giant house, some palm springs. 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:46.120 I don't know what else to tell you, wish that 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:49.440 for all of you. That's our problemn expression September for 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:51.960 all of you. Oh yeah, when this episode comes out, 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.400 it'll just have been my birthday. Oh my god, I'll 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:59.160 have gone to dinner. I'm doing like a chill birthday 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.280 because the palm Springs was really taking up a lot 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:05.280 of my excitement for you know, weeks. So I didn't 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:07.000 really like plan anything, and. 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:10.320 I'm no even yesterday someone said I looked tan and 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:12.640 I was happy about that. 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:16.839 That's great. You were very conscious about your sunscreen. Though, 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:20.880 I will say, in case your dermatologist listens, if mine does, 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:24.000 she certainly hates me. But I was going to say, 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:27.080 speaking of birthdays, I want to call out that last 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:31.280 week our episode Monogamy came out on John Ritter's birthday. 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.200 Isn't that crazy that, like a lot of people have 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:36.880 message us and been like, did you guys do that 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:38.400 on purpose? And I just want to let everyone know 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.200 we did not know that that was a coincidence, but 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:45.160 kind of crazy because we did talk about how much 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:45.720 we love him. 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.440 I feel like that is not a coincidence. I mean 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:50.120 it is an actual coincidence. 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:54.160 Yeah, but spiritually I don't feel like it's a coincidence. 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:58.120 Stars aligning. Yeah, yeah, I do feel that way. 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:00.320 Oh remember when we went some plums for the one 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:03.280 time and you got for a tarot person that was yeah, 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:03.720 I like. 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:07.320 Yeah, she's great. I like that. She was one that 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:09.320 told me there was feminine and energy around my pregnancy 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:11.440 even then I had Oscar. But there's still the jury 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:13.440 still out on Oscar. He does love to wear a dress, 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:14.640 so she could have been completely right. 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.760 Yeah, boys can have feminine energy because he also loves Elsa. 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:20.400 He does, and he loves Gabby. He loves a lot 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:22.240 of stuff that is classically found. 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.920 Wait, Kara, did I tell you too? I also my 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:28.040 quick little la jaunt. I went to Laurel Hardware for 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:28.600 the first time. 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:30.720 Oh, what were your thoughts? 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:34.040 It's a scene. Everyone's sexy. I don't know how people 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:36.160 got to eat in crop tops. That is a confusing 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:39.520 thing for me. I don't under I understand crop tops 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:41.520 out and about going to dinner and a crop top 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:45.120 I will never understand. I mean even if with having 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:48.360 like I just don't but a scene buzzy. 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:50.680 We were outside. The food not very good, and I 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.160 should have known. I think everyone is wearing a crop top. 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:55.720 That's the thing. It used to be good. And then 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:57.840 I think, because like I used to live by this restaurant, 0:15:57.840 --> 0:15:59.920 everybody no because you told me about it before, that's 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:03.440 ye excited. It's an outdoorsy like Ceni La restaurant, and 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:04.960 I used to go there, like take my parents or 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:06.120 Jared and I would to go on a date. It's 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:08.200 actually the last meal I ate before I had Rosie 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:09.800 was at Laurel Hardware. We went and had dinner there 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:13.040 and then we checked into the hospital, and I think 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.280 that they basically were like, oh, we can kind of 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:17.400 like chill with the food because no one's really eating it, 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:20.360 because like everybody's gorgeous. Every server I've ever had there 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:23.760 could be a cover model, like every server is so beautiful. 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:26.480 And I'm just like, oh, exactly what you're saying, Like, yeah, 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:28.280 they don't really need to serve great food because people 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:30.720 are probably not eating, but they used to have great food. 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:32.080 I used to love a lot of the food there. 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:34.600 And they have a great drink called I think the 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:37.240 gangster that's like a watermelon bod could drink that I love. 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:39.400 No, Like, I would go back for a vibe, Like 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:41.520 it seems like a good place for a big group dinner, 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.480 you know, like you can fit a lot of people. 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.080 It's a lot of different types of food. But they 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:50.360 kept bragging about making the like the pizza dough and 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:54.520 pasta in house, and it's like, huh really yeah. 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.480 Yeah yeah, And they're always like that's one of the 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:58.760 places where they're always like, have you eaten with us before? 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.400 So everything's designed to share. It's like you're like, okay, 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.560 but everything is the price of an entree. So it's 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:06.879 just funny that you're like everything's designed to share. But 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:10.200 I you know, it's it's definitely worth like an LA 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:13.800 fun night out if you're in town. Look at us 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:16.439 doing unsponsored spawn for Laurel Hardware. 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:19.719 I did so many LA stuff. I went to swingers. 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:21.440 I feel like that's very LA. 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:30.040 Okay the diner, Yeah, yeah, I guess that's it. Well. 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.880 No, I had a huge moment because I was at 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:37.040 Diego's class in West Hollywood for the Taylor Swift Tuesday 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:41.400 and as I walked out of class, Taylor had endorsed Harris, 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:43.639 so we're very happy. 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:47.720 I sat on a bench and I was just like, yes, bitch, 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:51.880 childless cat lady like I was really really happy. Yeah. 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:54.199 I thought that she chose good words and she was. 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:56.560 It was a good it was a great endorsement. So 0:17:56.920 --> 0:17:58.919 happy that she has come out and done that. And 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:02.480 then Donald Trump on truth social I hate Taylor Swift 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:08.399 in caps. So we're dealing with a child and some 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:11.480 people are still undecided. It's so fun. 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:13.440 Yeah. 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:16.600 The the evil thoughts that go through my head as 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:20.080 you say that is who is the guy Ken in 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:20.800 the red sweater? 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:25.520 Got a life? Remember him? Do you remember get in Bone? 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:25.840 Yeah? 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:30.919 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just confused. I hate one is 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:37.120 shoe voters, but I am just like abortion for all. Yeah, 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:41.560 on demand. Let's we should probably get started because this 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:44.720 interview is going to be deluxe because it's it is long. 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:46.840 Well, I can't wait to hear about your birthday. I 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.360 know you're doing something chill but hopefully spectacular. 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:54.199 Yeah. Maybe some fun uh fun events will befall me, 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:57.359 but we'll see as usual. Guys. A reminder that we 0:18:57.400 --> 0:18:59.720 are on tour coming up very soon in just like 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:03.080 three but I'm also sure kids will make you something 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:05.639 you sliss. You know, Yeah, they'll do something cute. I 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:09.520 will see, We'll see, It'll be no, they will, they will. 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:15.440 We're gonna be in Denver, Phoenix, San Diego, La San Francisco, 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:17.760 and Portland. Go to That's Messed Up Live dot com 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:20.720 for tickets. That's where we have all the legit ticket links. 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:24.320 I also wanted to also go to That's Messed Up 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:26.320 Live dot com. You can also scroll down and click 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.600 on Lisa's I think where I have Lisa's website. It 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:31.480 takes you to her link tree that has all her 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:35.720 tour dates because she's on the road. And I'm starting 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:40.400 a new live stream slash podcast with my good friend 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:45.160 Jackie Zebrowski over on the lot Last podcast Network. It's 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:47.480 going to be called Who's the Bitch. It's a live 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:51.880 calling advice show. If you're interested in sharing a crazy 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:55.639 story with us, you can do it by DM email, voicemail, 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:57.679 or you can call in live during our live streams. 0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:00.920 The first live stream is Monday, September alreadieth, and then 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:02.560 episodes will come out every Wednesday. 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:07.680 I also feel like there's a big crossover between exactly 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:10.880 right and last podcast left network. 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:12.720 People. Yes, I feel a lot. 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:15.040 Of it might be a big match made in heaven 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:17.880 for a lot of you. Yeah, so if you're out 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:20.680 of a guy, I'm gonna start prank calling the dial. 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:25.200 Yes, oh my god, don't dare you? You start calling 0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:27.360 in and like disguising your voice. You're like, I host 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.800 a podcast with this dumb bitch, and I'm like, Lisa, 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:35.280 stop calling. But yeah, so those are That's like a 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:37.359 new thing I've got going on. Go see li'sa on 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:39.400 the road. Come see us on the road. Guys, we're excited, 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:39.840 we're working. 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:42.320 I do have one more thing to add, and I 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:45.439 apologize that we can't stop ever talking. But I was 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:47.639 staying at a friend's house while he was out of 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:51.840 town in LA and his roommate left the oven on. 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:56.040 Oh my god, Oh you know I'm sensitive to monoxide 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:59.760 like most humans, yes, mentally, and like you would already 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:02.520 told me about your family's like aversion to even candles, 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:04.840 And so I immediately texted you back, going, don't tell 0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:06.840 your mom like she cannot know about this. 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:10.440 Like I was like couching, like, god, a man, I'm 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:14.400 watching Southern Like I don't feel what's going on during 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:17.719 a historic LA heat wave. It's on four hundred degrees. 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:21.680 Oh my fucking god, I'm glad you made it out. 0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:24.680 All right, let's get started. We've got a great episode 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:25.280 for you guys. 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:33.840 All right, so we will be doing Contact, not the 0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:38.400 space movie. Do you know there's a movie name Contact. Yes, 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:40.879 I think it's Jody Foster Johnny Depp, but I'm not 0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:43.159 sure it is. It is Jody Foster for sure. I 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:44.720 don't know about Johnny Depp, but it is for sure 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:47.040 Jody Foster. And Katia talks about it all the time. 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:49.680 It's like a joke about her on her podcast and 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:52.600 also in un all the time they're making Contact jokes, 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:55.080 and like, really, I just don't know if it's like 0:21:55.840 --> 0:21:59.199 Matthew McConney, Matthew mconnay. I don't know if it's like 0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:01.879 a movie that's so bad it's good, or it's like 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:04.240 actually a good movie that people overlooked. Like I really 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:06.600 can't tell the vibe from what they're talking about, but 0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:09.680 they reference Contact an insane amount of times on that. 0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:14.440 Shohnny Depp was in the Astronaut's Wife. That's the space 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:15.880 of it all. But I don't even think it's about 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:19.000 outer space. Yeah, like I think it's he comes back, 0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:20.960 but clea Duval friend of the Pod, isn't it. 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:22.520 I have not seen any of these movies. Let me 0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:25.320 see what the contact? What is it even about? 0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:29.840 Doctor Ellie Arroway, after years of searching, finds conclusive radio 0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:38.600 proof of extraterrestrial intelligence sending plans for a mysterious machine. Okay, great, 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:43.280 very nineties. Tom Scarett, another friend of the Pod. It's 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:45.080 really crazy. He can't get away from the Friends of 0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:49.840 the Pod. Now, no, they really are everywhere. Okay, but 0:22:49.960 --> 0:22:54.840 this is actually season one of SVU, episode nineteen, and 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:58.480 it is really cool to watch season one because I 0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:02.879 feel you see the round work of the consistent moments 0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:03.880 through the years. 0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:06.879 You know what I mean? Yes, Like I'm like, ah, 0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:10.119 this of course this is gonna happen, but it hadn't before. 0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:14.240 Like this is where it all it all went down. 0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:17.800 So it starts off, We're in a bustling subway, blonde 0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:20.160 business lady on the phone and oh my god, it's 0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:23.200 Nicole Sullivan and she's in bangs and you know, she's 0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:26.719 holding a coffee and she's talking about great prices. She 0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:28.840 does lose the call right as the train comes and 0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:31.440 the phone is a full antenna, like she grabbed it 0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:32.280 from the kitchen wall. 0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:38.320 Phone it just like with her, so like, I'm just 0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:40.280 like this, you guys know, this is one of my 0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:42.840 most haunting episodes. But also I love it because I 0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:43.199 love her. 0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:47.080 I think she's great, She's very good, and she made 0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:51.040 me and my family laugh for years and now it 0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:54.120 will be the opposite. And so, you know, the train 0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:57.359 is moderately packed. We get shots of everyone's faces, and 0:23:57.400 --> 0:23:59.560 then they pull out and they're on the f train 0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:02.720 and then uh oh, someone comes in and he has 0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:06.119 a box cutter, and this man grabs Nicole, pushes her 0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:09.880 against the middle like middle train door area, and does 0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:12.880 rape her. And the there's a shot from the other 0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:15.760 side of the glass, so you see her face get smashed. 0:24:15.840 --> 0:24:18.600 So that's really graphic, just very graphic. And then you 0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:23.640 see people notice and not do anything to help, and yeah, 0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:26.000 that's fucked up and crazy. And so I thought about 0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:30.679 this a lot because everyone's just watching it happen. But 0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:34.280 the box cutter does change everything because what if you 0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:36.760 do get involved and then the box cutter cuts this 0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:40.160 person's deck, Like, at what point do you get attacked. Well, 0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:42.320 remember like, do you do you know this? Do you 0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:46.119 know the comic Doug Smith or see he stopped a 0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:48.440 woman from getting assaulted on a train platform and got 0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:50.879 slashed in the face and still has a scar from it, 0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:54.439 But he's a hero. I mean, it's very like. It 0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:56.919 obviously makes me think of Kitty Genevezi, even though like 0:24:57.080 --> 0:24:59.960 in our research and a lot of the after more 0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:03.879 recent studies of Kitty Genevezia wasn't exactly like the same 0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:06.359 thing where so many people are just standing around watching 0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:09.520 a crime happen. But in this case that is what's happening, 0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:12.199 and it's very That's why this is so haunting to me, 0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:14.480 I think as well, not only because I took the 0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:19.520 subway so much, but also that like just all these 0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:22.199 people would stand around and not do anything like I 0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:24.159 like to think I would do something. I've stood up 0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:27.040 to people on the train before who albeit do not 0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:29.600 have weapons as far as I know, but who have 0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:32.120 been like harassing older women or something like that. I've 0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:34.840 definitely said something, and I've at least been like, you 0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:37.040 can yell at me instead of this old lady. You know, 0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:40.120 but I don't know, You're right the box cutter scary 0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:44.199 and if the trains in mids or yeah, like if 0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:46.600 the train's in mid stop, you can you get somebody 0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:49.600 like I'll get into it more with the real crime 0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:52.640 as well. But there's not always conductors and all these trains, 0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:54.840 like some of them are not being conducted. There's less staff, 0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:59.760 there's cutbacks like so you know, yeah, or by somebody 0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:02.479 always tough, what a freak. 0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:08.360 So yeah, people are noticing sitting watching her get viciously 0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:10.840 raped and then he runs out at the next stop. 0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:14.200 She crumbles slowly to the floor in shock. She's breathing heavy. 0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:17.200 And of course we're in the credits old school baby, 0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:19.399 I feel like there was a more what is it 0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:24.159 a Sepia like, yeah, yes, there was like a brown 0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:29.120 tinge to the credits, I would say. And so we're 0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:31.600 at the office they're saying, oh, it happened again on 0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:33.560 the Sea train, and it's like, no, I noticed it 0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:35.359 was the F train, So are we talking about another 0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:37.760 one or what's going on here? 0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:39.720 Because that's not a reason it haunted me because the 0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:42.000 Sea was my train, I know. 0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:44.720 But I they pulled out and showed a thing of 0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:49.760 the F so I am confused, But Anyway, so we 0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:53.280 have Curly cue Michelle Hurd Season one Marishka. Suspenders are 0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:57.280 popping on Kragan and basically this dude is like three 0:26:57.359 --> 0:27:01.080 seconds boom gone. And this has happened seven times in 0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:03.360 six months, which sucks. So they all go to work 0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:08.840 Munch slash Monique slash Michelle. They are walking and working. 0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:12.160 Munch is in his feelings because it's his wedding anniversary, 0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:15.680 and so she asks which one and he says exactly. 0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:16.479 Lol. 0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:22.359 So they meet some uniform Munch's Munch in this episode 0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:24.600 like he's the lead detective. 0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:27.879 It seems it seems like I'm in this episode. And 0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:29.760 then a reporter is there as well. 0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:32.800 So anyways, they get to the train, there's uniform cops 0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:35.760 and a reporter is there. They hate him, but he's like, no, 0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:39.680 I'm helping. We're on Spring Street. It's paused the train. 0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:43.200 Cops want to to start the train again, but our 0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:46.159 people want to investigate since there was a rape. We 0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:50.640 have Georgi aka Wellie Yang and he is the CSU 0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:54.280 tech here on the seam on the scene, not a seam, 0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:58.119 and he has like some you know, sassy banter with mine. 0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:02.840 Oh god. The Bureau crats, and so they do that. Sadly, 0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:05.320 it's hard to get prints though, because all the metal 0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:08.640 has anti graffiti sprays on it, like there's some kind 0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:12.160 of oils on it, and that also prevents oils from 0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:14.199 hands getting on it. But they have prints on the 0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:18.320 glass window, but several hundreds, so that's kind of tough. 0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:21.120 And all the footprints are partial, but the coffee cup 0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:22.960 is still on the floor, so that is a whim 0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:25.879 And so then that leads us tentacle Sullivan's apartment, and 0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:28.200 she says, you know, if I didn't stop for coffee, 0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.359 I would have been on a different train, and she's messy. 0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:31.679 You know. 0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:34.080 I always like hearing the stories of the opposite of that, 0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:37.280 like I was gonna be there on nine to eleven, 0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:39.800 but I decided not to fly, you know, like, oh, 0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:40.600 I know. 0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:43.760 Like so many stories like that of people I've heard, like, oh, 0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:46.040 my friend's dad was late for a meeting that day 0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:49.000 and missed nine to eleven, Like my friend decided to 0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:52.520 take his call from home, like all kinds of shit 0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:53.560 like that. It's crazy. 0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:56.560 Yeah, I lighting doors, Oh yeah, I like that better 0:28:56.840 --> 0:29:01.600 versus oh, this terrible thing happened. Yeah, so that sucks, 0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:05.479 but she has a messy bonn and a gray zippy hoodie, 0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:10.320 you know, home comfortable, amazing view. She curls up on 0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:12.480 a chair as the detectives tell her it's not her FM. 0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:17.000 She's like, yeah, I know, so she's got she's got attitude. 0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:17.440 And I do enjoy that. 0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:20.560 And they try, you know, I'm glad the detectives are 0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:21.560 doing their job, and I'm glad. 0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:24.120 She's like, shut the fuck up. So then they try 0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:26.320 to get scoop. She got on it. Hoyt. 0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:29.840 I hate it, sketch her criminal corn, like the worst, 0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:31.760 the worst. 0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:35.560 Wait stop ever you say Hoyit skirmer Horn or Hoyd Schirmerhorn, 0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:37.680 I like hate it. I never want to say it 0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:41.120 out loud. I truly just go like hoy Like, I 0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:42.680 know I used to babysit a kid, don't. 0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:45.800 I'm also never there, like I'm never really there, so 0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.960 I you know, I think it's my the ace in Brooklyn. 0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:51.680 So but that's like the only time I've ever I 0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:53.680 don't fuck around with Hoyts Schmemermorn. 0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:54.600 I hate it. 0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:57.600 So she was taking it up to the fiftieth Street 0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:01.840 and at the station she stop for a latte. She 0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:04.239 did not see him before the attack, and you know, 0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:06.960 this is kind of a common thing too, but she's, 0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:10.960 you know, she's okay with it, but also realizing that 0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:14.000 she did just stand still and what the fuck? Like 0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:17.719 all that kickboxing for nothing, and you know, but it 0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:20.080 happened so fast she couldn't even believe it was happening. 0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:23.880 And while Stable's trying to ask questions, he's sneezing, he's wet, 0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:26.560 gross tissues, He's a sick mess. She is grossed out 0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:28.680 by him. But she did get a good look at 0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:33.560 the attacker, thin sandy brown, pointy beak, nose, but she 0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:36.120 can't tell the height because you know, he had her pinned. 0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:39.880 And she's such a good actress. She's emotional but controlled. 0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:42.880 There was a knife, she says, or something, and he 0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:46.040 was wearing dark clothing with a hooded sweatshirt. And she 0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:49.240 says that he was panting at her, panting like a dog, 0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:52.400 and he did leave his mark on her dress. So that's, 0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:57.040 you know, Monica Lewinsky style. What a dumb bitch friend 0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:58.240 that friend was? 0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:01.920 What is it in a trip? Yeah? Fuck her? Oh yeah, well, 0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:03.840 I mean they don't do her, They don't do her 0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:07.160 any favors in the in the TV series where Sarah 0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:09.760 Paulson plays her like they do her no favors. They 0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:12.240 make her look like a sad fucking bitch. For her, 0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:14.560 she is right, like why would you fuck over your 0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:17.680 friend like that? She was like, I don't know. The 0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:19.600 way that they at least portray her in that is 0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:22.440 that she had this like overinflated sense of importance, that 0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:25.280 like it was her job to make sure that integrity 0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:28.000 was existing inside the government and that you don't do 0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:30.240 this kind of thing in the Oval office, and that 0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:32.479 she had to be the one to step forward, and 0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:34.920 like I think she always thought, at least the way 0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:37.120 they portray her, and again it's a television show, that 0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:39.440 she was going to have this like shining moment and 0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:42.320 be like upheld like a hero and not. And then 0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:46.320 the show shows how kind of devastated she was by 0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:50.480 how everybody treated her, like she was ridiculed on Saturday 0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:52.880 Night Live and played by John Goodman, you know, like 0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:55.720 she she didn't get what she wanted, that's for sure, 0:31:56.680 --> 0:32:01.040 and she was a bad friend, a terrible friend. The 0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:03.320 other thing is I will say about this fucking guy 0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:08.920 is like, what kind of psychotic like not confidence, arrogance, 0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:11.680 like to go onto a train that crowded and commit 0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:13.920 a crime like this and to think no one will 0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:16.960 stop me, and and you didn't have to think it. 0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:19.360 That's what happened, Like yeah, end of the day, no 0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:24.680 one does anything. So it's like, look, a lot of 0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:26.480 things can happen on trains that are like less crowd 0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:29.120 this this train is at rush hour, Like it's really 0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:34.440 kind of wildly I don't know, ballsy and arrogant to 0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:37.640 do it, but I guess it worked out in his favor. 0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:41.880 But many times, yeah, yeah, so hopefully there's evidence there. 0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:43.760 But we go to talk to some of the witnesses. 0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:47.080 A man in a suit said he did watch, so 0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:51.680 that's cool. Yea truly insane. But the suitman could tell 0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.600 that this guy was white, five ten hooded sweatshirt and 0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:57.880 like a heavy jacket and it's navy. 0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:00.240 Color, and he does some kind of it's a navy peace. 0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:03.640 But he does some kind of like navel joke that 0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:05.760 doesn't go over well, Like he tries to do some 0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:10.920 like I'm in the Navy, does not land gross gross scringe, 0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:13.720 and then he says, you know, but the guy had 0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:17.600 dirty pants and strip streaks, and then he remember being like, 0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:19.520 oh yeah, because I was like, oh, I don't want 0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:21.400 to be near the paint guy because he might get 0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:24.400 it on my jacket. Benson hands and Pockets walks towards 0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:27.120 him and says he's on her and you're worried about 0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:27.680 your coat. 0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:29.520 So that was annoying. 0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:32.520 So then now we're with a man in a trench coat, 0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:35.760 and Jeffries and Munch want like they want to put 0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:38.440 some decoys out there, some ghosts to look for him, 0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.880 and Jefferies goes, okay, well, then go do that, and 0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:45.000 then they start like bullying these these transit people too. 0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:47.760 They're like, where are the cameras, where are the transit cops? 0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:51.400 What's going on? And this dude gets defensive and is like, hey, yeah, 0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:52.760 next year we'll have all that. 0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:55.040 But even all the computers in the world. 0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:56.640 Are not going to stop some guy from sticking his 0:33:56.680 --> 0:34:00.760 hand up some girl's skirt. And she yells rape greenberg, 0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:07.240 not fondling, not petting, not unwanted advances, rape on your subway, remember, 0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:13.680 and he walks away. She does stare him down. Now 0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:16.160 we have to go talk to another witness. Munched Stable 0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:18.759 are talking to her to flower shop outdoor situation. 0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:20.759 She's not helpful, she. 0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:23.880 Didn't hear anything, doesn't remember anything, doesn't want to say anything, 0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:24.560 like we hate her. 0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:27.640 So we leave and it's like, bitch, you did see 0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:27.879 it all. 0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:29.960 We saw you watch her, We saw you watch her 0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:32.560 getting raped, and now you're pretending you don't know anything. 0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:35.040 But she has an accent, so maybe she's scared of 0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:37.520 the cops or something. So we have a team meeting. 0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:40.280 They're all at the office. Craigan introduces them to doctor 0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:46.440 Audrey Jackson, a forensic psychologist aka Audrey McDonald Broadway legend. 0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:49.040 So the Deputy commissioner thought it would be good if 0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:51.719 she joined the team, and of course they are less 0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:52.360 than thrilled. 0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:55.400 Only Benson says high to her. They fill Daddy. 0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:57.440 Craigan in on everything they learned through the day, and 0:34:57.600 --> 0:35:00.600 the thing is like, and the the only thing they 0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:03.120 can find consistent with all the victims that is that 0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:06.800 they were all wearing skirts. And Adre is not impressed 0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:09.120 and she's like, that's all you got, and stablerd turns 0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:12.480 around pissed and super dead Pant says, women wearing skirts 0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:16.839 on the subway like an extra little detail. But then 0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:20.560 She's like okay, and then they all tell her they're 0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:24.160 like it's different ages, racist bodies, everything, and she pushes back, 0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:26.920 so she's like okay, So he overpowers them. Is the 0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:30.279 knife part of it, like the thrill of overpowering and 0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:33.879 she's it's not like they're she's being Were they mean 0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:36.799 to bed Wong when he first started to I. 0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:39.560 Think that's the thing, is like, yeah, she's coming at 0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:42.400 it from the psychological she's the pre beady Wong, the 0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:44.759 pre Wong, and they're kind of like, what the fuck 0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:46.800 are you doing. They're not used to it yet, I guess, 0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:49.080 and so they're kind of like, you're in our business. 0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:51.879 But I don't know if they're mean to him at 0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:52.440 the beginning. 0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:56.239 My confusion is like she's only trying to help you 0:35:56.280 --> 0:36:00.319 guys solve this crime, So like, what's the what's the problem. 0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:03.880 Yeah, that's what I don't understand here. He didn't come 0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:06.719 out until his first Quang's first episode is not until 0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:09.840 the end of season two with Peak, which we have covered, 0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:13.560 And I wonder if when he was talking about all 0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:16.480 the hat pin pricking that they were like shut the 0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:20.680 fuck up. But like, yeah, I'm figuring it out. You know, yeah, 0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:23.600 and she's helpful here. It's just like, I don't know, 0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:26.280 maybe they're trying to show why the police are silly, 0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:30.800 Like aren't usually detectives in the movies studying at a library, 0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:33.480 you know what I mean? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, we need you, 0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:35.920 We need we need Clarice Starling to get inside. 0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:38.640 The head of the guy, you know, like yeah, but 0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:42.239 they hate and she's like, listen, I'm just here to help, 0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:44.440 and Craig and Flatley says, we're over the moon. You 0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:47.480 have come to help so much walks on over to 0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:50.200 her and goes, okay, doctor lady, tell us what insights 0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:52.640 you have and she's like, well, he's a dog. 0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:54.600 What gets him off is the hunt. 0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:56.880 And Monique is like, you make it sound like foreplay, 0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:59.640 and she's like, yep, to him, it is. And you 0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:02.279 can't really plant any decoys or anything because you don't 0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:04.680 have a type. And so I guess we just have 0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:07.440 to wait till the next crime. And much answers a 0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:10.640 ringing phone and uh oh, no more waiting needed. The 0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:14.200 dog found another human fire hydrant, which is language I 0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:17.799 didn't really need. But they're off to fifty Night the 0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:20.320 Street and we meet a real New York or wise 0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:23.520 guy type of cop. He's confident, and we also see 0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:24.680 the reporter from before. 0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:27.640 There's a nod. They nod, So the wise Guy walks 0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:29.800 up to them proudly. He's like, yeah, we got to 0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:33.040 suspect apprehended. This guy looks like a creep. 0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:37.279 And this guy's name is Bruce Bond, and well, it's 0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:40.840 funny the character both the this is this happens twice 0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:43.800 in this episode where the first name of the character 0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:45.960 and the actor name are the same, only the last 0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:48.160 name is different. So Bruce and then later we'll meet 0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:51.200 us out that is their real name, so oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:55.359 And so he was officer lou and Fargo if you're 0:37:56.320 --> 0:38:00.239 thinking about who this man is. And so he in 0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:03.240 cement room bars and he does look like a creep. Sorry, 0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:06.640 and he says the train jerked and I fell against her. 0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:09.400 Oh you fell okay? Well how many times did you 0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:12.759 fall against her? And he's like, ah, she overreacted, and 0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:16.600 Benson's goes, well I think she underreacted. And this dude 0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:18.960 is like, I had a hand on a pole and 0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:21.719 then one in my pocket and it's like doing what 0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:25.160 and Benson goes, we have three witnesses that put you 0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:27.040 on top of her, and he's like, the train jerk, 0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:29.680 the train jerked. He has paint on his pants, ding, 0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:32.720 ding ding, and then he's like, well, it's from painting 0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:34.960 a window, and Benson goes, well, if you paint for 0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:36.719 a living, why would you remember if it's like from 0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:37.720 one window or another. 0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:40.000 That doesn't make sense. He stands up. 0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:42.520 He doesn't say much, but you know, it does give 0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:45.759 a better view of the paint. And Benson asked him 0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:47.680 to take his pants off. He doesn't really want to, 0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:50.440 but you know he has to. But he starts talking 0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:52.759 about window displays and that's what he actually works on, 0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:55.640 is like store windows. But then he says kind of 0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:56.960 and they're like, what the fuck do you mean by 0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:59.560 kind of? And why didn't you say anything about any 0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:02.279 of this? And he's like, well, I'm scared. You know, 0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:05.080 it sounds fruity. It sounds fruity that I do store 0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:08.560 window displays, but I like women. And they're like, okay, 0:39:08.920 --> 0:39:12.200 take your pants off. What are you talking about. Audre 0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:14.879 and Craigan are in the spy window and Audre does 0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:17.480 not think this is the guy. He is sweating and 0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:20.680 childlike and he seems like a kid that's lying about 0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:23.360 a book he didn't read. And he feels guilty about 0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:26.160 something though, but she doesn't think it's this. Craigan makes 0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:28.400 a joke, well maybe you know he's Catholic and he 0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:32.880 feels guilty about everything. But so then they go to 0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:35.080 the DNA check on the sample in the pants and 0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:37.880 compare it to the other seven rapes, and this is 0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:40.600 when he's denying all the rapes and uh oh, Stabler 0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:43.239 notices in the pocket that he takes off that there 0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:45.880 is a hole. There's a hole in the pocket and 0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:50.399 it's a PERV trick. So she Benson like goes at 0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:53.600 him and she calls his dick Willie, which is uncomfortable. 0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:57.759 So then he's denying its public masturbating or being a 0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:00.759 perver rapist. But they arrest his ass and Craigan says, 0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:03.880 we'll just see how this jives with the other witnesses. 0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:09.320 Jib what it's like this Episodes from nineteen seventy four. Okay, 0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:12.239 I so i I've had I've come across this in 0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:15.960 English before, and our English teachers can like come help us, 0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:19.160 But like I believe you're supposed to be saying jibes 0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:25.359 like it's g j I b ees and people have 0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:32.040 sort of like I thought jibe was like a sailing term. No, 0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:35.280 actually that's wrong. I don't know, maybe I'm incorrect. 0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:39.640 Uh, but like I think it's jibes with like a V, 0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:40.520 like a victor. 0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:43.680 I know, but I've heard people say that doesn't vibe 0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:45.239 with what I'm talking about. I've heard people say it 0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:48.160 with a B and like yeah, So like in Britannica, 0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:51.240 jibe is in the Britannic it says his story didn't 0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:53.759 jibe with the testimony of other witnesses. What he what 0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:56.680 he told me doesn't jibe with my experience, So it 0:40:56.840 --> 0:41:00.640 does mean that. And I think it's based off sailing. 0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:02.719 It says to cause, because to jive is to send 0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:05.719 us cause a sailboat to switch direction. So then I 0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:09.319 think people took it like mixed it with jive, but 0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:11.120 jive is a different thing. 0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:16.400 The jib can also work in this context. I feel like, 0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:17.920 are we jiving together? 0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:22.600 Well, if you look it up, in Britannica, jive is 0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:26.000 talking jive like street jive is like a slang term 0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:29.799 like remember from the movie Airplane where it goes, excuse me, 0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:33.239 miss do you speak jive. It's like a it's like 0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:37.720 never deceptive or foolish talk and informal language that includes 0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:41.239 many slang terms, a type of lively music that is 0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:43.440 especially popular in the early part of the twentieth century. 0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:47.799 And then to say in the US, an old old 0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:51.080 definition is to say something foolish or deceptive. I think 0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:53.959 he's like quote, I think he's jiving me, like there's 0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:57.800 nothing in here about something going along with what you're saying. 0:41:57.840 --> 0:41:59.719 I think the word is supposed to be jibe, but 0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:03.279 I agree that it has been. It is like so 0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:06.839 many words that people have sort of mutated and they've 0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:10.440 taken over different Meaningsica dot com. 0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:12.560 Well, I didn't know jibe with a bee as in 0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:16.560 boy was even a word. Yeah, but I wonder if 0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:20.399 it's Craigan's saying it, if it's like a cultural thing 0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:22.600 that you're like saying the society switches it up all 0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:25.359 the time, or if it's just the little typer guy 0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:27.480 who does the closed captioning or woman. 0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:32.600 Yeah, that was. 0:42:32.520 --> 0:42:36.239 Like the one thing about the forty fifth president when 0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:40.400 he was just like fireman or woman or whatever, and 0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:43.239 it's like you could just say firefighter, you fucking illiterate, 0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:51.759 fuck like the I like, it's just so crazy. So 0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:54.480 we go talk to an old lady who saw it 0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:58.239 all and they're circling and the moving and she's like, 0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:00.880 you know, I saw his hands and in the pocket, 0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:03.920 and she was leaning on the medal pole and the 0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:06.000 train jerked and he grabbed the metal pole so we 0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:09.840 wouldn't run into her and adjusted himself. And she's like, 0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:12.960 it was a train jerk, but then he started to 0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:15.880 rub uck against her and that was on purpose. 0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:18.160 And I do really love this old lady. 0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:20.480 But she says, the woman said nothing, and that's why 0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:22.719 this old lady was loud about it. She goes for 0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:24.640 all the times I just stood there and took it 0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:28.319 enough already. And her name is Sylvia Cotters and she 0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:32.280 passed in twenty sixteen, but she wasn't three episodes of SVU, 0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:34.160 so if you'd like to see. 0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:34.920 This cutie again. 0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:39.320 She's then Blinded from season nine and Quickie from season eleven. 0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:42.640 I remember what blind it is, but Quickie, I don't remember, 0:43:42.760 --> 0:43:43.799 just off the top of my head. 0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:46.560 But yeah I don't either. Maybe anonymous quiki dot com 0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:51.680 I'm oh, yeah, that would be amazing, And of course, 0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:54.080 this woman was on an episode of Sex and the 0:43:54.120 --> 0:43:57.960 City the Ick Factor, but her IMDb is mostly credits 0:43:58.000 --> 0:44:01.520 that our old lady, lady, on bench tourist lady and 0:44:01.719 --> 0:44:04.920 so on, so she has played a lot of ladies. 0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:07.840 So we're back in the office and the reporter wants 0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:11.600 to fuck Benson. He's like, oh, man, I missed you 0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:13.760 at that crime scene and she's like, oh, I missed 0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:18.960 you too. There are sparks and they talk Bruce Abbin, you. 0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:20.640 Know, he wants scoop Is he the one? 0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:23.280 And Benson's like, I don't know, you know, it looks promising, 0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:25.279 but we'll see. And then it seems like they're going 0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:28.960 to eat dim sum at eight pm together. Exciting. But 0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:32.080 before we see that, we go to a bricklayer and 0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:35.279 he's husky, he's hot, he has really broad shoulders and 0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:38.400 he's the guy that like pushed Bruce off the woman 0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:41.200 and got into the altercation. And he's like, I put 0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:44.720 I did a Nelson on her, and Jeffreys goes half 0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:49.000 for full and he goes full and he's like, how 0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:52.400 is she doing? And he's super caring and strong and stout, 0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:55.160 and we are obsessed, and he has overalls on. So 0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:58.520 now we go to the hospital and the employee there, 0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:02.120 doctor nurse, I don't remember, but they say no penetration, 0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:05.040 you know, thank god, and he did a pelvic and 0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:06.960 no sign of trauma. 0:45:07.480 --> 0:45:08.840 And she keeps saying, nothing happen. 0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:13.200 And amazing actress Dina Pearlman, and she was actually in 0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:16.120 another SVU episode Pure and that's what Martin short from 0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:19.279 season six. If you remember, yes, and if you remember that, 0:45:19.360 --> 0:45:23.520 you must remember that she is the woman from Sex 0:45:23.560 --> 0:45:27.280 and the City that in the money episode with Carrie 0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:30.440 and Charlotte goes to like melt down her engagement ring 0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:32.839 and this woman wants to, you know, turn her shit 0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:36.920 into bagette and they start melting the diamonds and she 0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:39.760 gets very very upset. And so she's the diamond woman 0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:45.200 from that. She says, he rubbed up, yes, but it's 0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:46.680 not different from most days. 0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:47.400 On the subway. 0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:51.160 Munch and Jeffreys are there and she's like, listen, you 0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:52.680 got to watch out on the subway. 0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:54.759 You read a line, you scan the car. 0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:57.520 You read a line, you scan the car, and you 0:45:57.640 --> 0:46:00.400 mind your own business, which is what that lady should 0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:00.960 have done. 0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:02.640 She's like, there was no rape. 0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:05.840 There wasn't even a flashing situation, which actually did happen 0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:09.200 to me two weeks ago, and it's always gross, and 0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:12.000 I wish I had a subit. I wish I had 0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:15.480 a Mustang and lived in the suburbs, and Munch goes, Amen. 0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:19.640 So we're back, and now it's Craigan and Audra. They 0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:22.560 are fighting. She's like, he didn't rape her, and Craigan goes, 0:46:22.880 --> 0:46:25.839 he just didn't get that chance. So it's lineup time 0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:28.080 and Craigan's like, let's bring them all down here, and 0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:30.120 Audras pissed and she's like, what you want them to 0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:31.040 take the train down? 0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:33.520 And he goes, that's not my problem. 0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:37.360 Season one Kragan, Yeah, he goes, what you think I 0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:39.680 should pick up each of these women and she's like, yeah, 0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:42.520 that's exactly what I think. If their anxiety goes up 0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:44.600 on transit and that's how they get around, you don't 0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:47.400 want them stressed during the lineup, do you. And he 0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:50.000 finally is like, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right. You know, well, 0:46:50.200 --> 0:46:52.279 we'll make sure to get these IDs and make sure 0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:53.600 they go as smooth as possible. 0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:56.320 So Bruce and a bunch of shlubs are in a lineup. 0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:59.240 Woman after one woman says nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. 0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:02.600 One bleach lady is pissed, and she goes, I guess 0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:06.360 I'll stay taking cabs, and the other is stressed, but 0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:08.960 you know, you know, Audre is touching her shoulder, and 0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:11.839 one woman with curls is crazed and she's like, it's 0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:14.520 number two, no, number four, yes, no, I don't know, 0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:17.319 and then she's crying. She is stressed. It is sad, 0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:20.319 she says. She sees parts of him everywhere, every man 0:47:20.400 --> 0:47:22.239 on the street. She doesn't see him in there, but 0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:26.320 more than anything, she wishes she did. She breathes, she leaves. 0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:29.800 Another woman says number one, and then a goth cries 0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:34.439 on Jeffrey's shoulder. So now it's Nicole Sullivan and she's like, well, 0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:36.359 what if I'm wrong and they're like, well, that would 0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:39.319 be a trial issue. She's like trial and they go yeah, 0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:41.319 but we also have the DNA, and so she goes, well, 0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:42.799 if you have the DNA, doesn't matter if I'm right 0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:45.000 or wrong right, and Benson goes, well, we would need 0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:47.239 your testimony for the jury, and she goes, yeah, but 0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:49.239 why do you need any of this if you have 0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:52.440 the seamen but anyways, she doesn't even see him. 0:47:52.640 --> 0:47:54.919 We go to blackout. So now there's a lawyer woman. 0:47:54.960 --> 0:47:57.160 We've never seen her in our lives. Again, I don't know, 0:47:57.239 --> 0:48:00.080 I don't know her. And Craigan and Audra are the 0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:02.600 what do we do now? 0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:05.080 And Audre's gonna bully him to admit to the fondling 0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:07.920 because he knows he's guilty. And she goes in their 0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:10.440 guns blazing because just approved to this whole department that 0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:12.600 she's good at her job. Because even when she's like, 0:48:12.840 --> 0:48:15.279 I think he'll do this in that Kraigan's. 0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:17.040 Like, okay, bitch, you know, like he is not. 0:48:17.880 --> 0:48:20.960 He's not trusting of her until the lawyer tries to 0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:23.440 give attitude and she tells him to shut up. She 0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:25.640 lets Bruce know that they are not going to charge 0:48:25.680 --> 0:48:27.560 him for the rapes because they know he didn't do it, 0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:30.319 and he's very surprised that they even believed him. Then 0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:33.160 she asks if he likes riding the subways. He goes, yes, 0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:35.640 The motion rocks you side to side, front to back, 0:48:35.719 --> 0:48:36.960 and it's soothing. 0:48:37.239 --> 0:48:39.880 The lawyer jumps out of his skin. What is this babbel? 0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:42.080 And she's like, I'm trying to make him feel better, 0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:45.560 and he says he says, that's my job, and she goes, no, 0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:48.560 your job is to get him a lesser charge of fondling. 0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:52.080 Bruce stutters out his life story. He's a geek from 0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:55.040 South Dakota. He's an artist. He came to New York. 0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:57.040 It was his dream, but he doesn't know what happened. 0:48:57.040 --> 0:49:00.520 Everything just evaporated. He got drunk and he went to 0:49:00.520 --> 0:49:03.400 a porno place where they like dance behind the window, 0:49:03.400 --> 0:49:05.120 and the next thing he knew he was against the 0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:08.080 glass sweeping. And so then he got on the subway 0:49:08.520 --> 0:49:11.040 and he's saying he didn't do anything because he already 0:49:11.120 --> 0:49:13.880 relieved himself at the porno place. He was not looking 0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:16.120 for sex, but this woman was just so lovely and 0:49:16.160 --> 0:49:18.960 he saw her and when he realized what he was doing, 0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:22.799 he pulled back, but he just wanted some contact. So 0:49:22.840 --> 0:49:25.480 we're at a walk and talk Audre and Craigan, and 0:49:25.520 --> 0:49:28.040 she goes, I don't think he's violent, and Craigan goes, 0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:30.120 he carries her on a box cutter, and she goes, yeah, 0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:34.160 maybe it's to actually open boxes, but he goes, fine, 0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:36.080 then it's not him than who And she's like, well, 0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:38.960 you're looking for your classic power rapist, a guy who 0:49:39.000 --> 0:49:43.000 feels powerless and disenfranchised and uses violence to gain control 0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:46.080 and then goes back to feeling powerless. That's why he 0:49:46.120 --> 0:49:48.600 wants to get caught. And so now we're at a 0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:52.080 bar and this is like very season one. We don't 0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:56.280 it's Benson's out on the town. She's flirting. The reporter 0:49:56.400 --> 0:49:58.560 keeps babbling about the case, and she goes, are we 0:49:58.640 --> 0:50:01.640 working or flirting? And he goes, We're always working and 0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:04.480 she's like, so, I guess we're not flirting and he goes, no, 0:50:04.680 --> 0:50:07.080 I'm offering my undying love to you for the ten 0:50:07.160 --> 0:50:10.080 millionth time, and she goes, well, maybe tonight you'll get lucky, 0:50:10.400 --> 0:50:12.520 and he's like really. So then we go back to 0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:15.960 talking about the subway rapist and they're drinking bottled beer 0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:18.759 and I like that little touch. He then encourages her 0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:21.400 to write a book about sex offenders because she really 0:50:21.480 --> 0:50:24.600 knows these guys well and that's why people move away 0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:28.560 from her on the couch and she's like, gee, thanks, 0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:30.799 that's nice for me, and she gets up to walk 0:50:30.840 --> 0:50:33.360 away and she has a strappy black tank top on 0:50:33.480 --> 0:50:36.000 and then you know, party top diamond studs. But he 0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:38.439 gets up and he's not letting her walk out, and 0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:41.440 she smiles seductively at him, being like, oh, you're blocking 0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:41.880 the door. 0:50:42.120 --> 0:50:42.480 Love that. 0:50:43.160 --> 0:50:45.200 So they smile and they are now making out on 0:50:45.239 --> 0:50:49.319 the couch obsessed. We see a radiator, we see some 0:50:49.440 --> 0:50:53.360 candle six and honestly, it's like a girl vertical blind. 0:50:54.200 --> 0:50:55.399 But she wants to hook up. 0:50:55.440 --> 0:50:59.719 We've never seen Benson this horny. But he can't stop 0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:02.360 bringing up sex crimes. And he's like, do you like 0:51:02.400 --> 0:51:04.680 to have sex with your eyes closed? And she's like, no, 0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:07.680 I like to have sex with my white eyes wide open, baby. 0:51:08.160 --> 0:51:10.479 And so there's more kissing and he keeps trying to talk, 0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:13.160 and she keeps wanting to hook up and for him 0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:15.959 to stop bringing up the rape case. And then while 0:51:15.960 --> 0:51:18.959 wrapped around like he's wrapped around her from the back, 0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:22.120 he goes, let's pretend I'm the guy from the subway. 0:51:22.560 --> 0:51:26.600 She's turned off immediately tells him to stop it. He like, 0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:29.719 she is so grossed out, and she goes, ugh, I'm 0:51:29.719 --> 0:51:32.320 gonna go wash my face and hands and my mouth. 0:51:32.640 --> 0:51:34.839 And there's the door and make sure you're out when 0:51:34.840 --> 0:51:38.279 I get out of here. Gone, and she slams the door. 0:51:38.360 --> 0:51:41.319 He feels stupid, but not stupid enough because while he's 0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:45.600 gathering his things, he finds her files and goes through them. 0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:48.759 So then Craigan at his desk reading a folded newspaper 0:51:48.760 --> 0:51:51.239 as Benson enters his office, and we know this is 0:51:51.360 --> 0:51:52.200 not going to be good. 0:51:52.480 --> 0:51:53.880 And he's like, Wow, it's wild. 0:51:53.880 --> 0:51:56.279 This reporter seemed to get right inside the head of 0:51:56.320 --> 0:51:59.200 this rapist, like he got it straight from the horse's mouth. 0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:02.560 She's like, fuck him and his imagination. He was at 0:52:02.560 --> 0:52:04.360 my apartment and on his way out, I turned my 0:52:04.400 --> 0:52:07.640 back for a fucking second. And Craigan goes, never turn 0:52:07.680 --> 0:52:11.759 your back on a reporter. She feels really bad and 0:52:11.960 --> 0:52:14.400 is like, believe me, I won't. He asks if she 0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:17.240 wants him to handle and she goes, oh no, don't worry, 0:52:17.360 --> 0:52:19.880 I will. Munch comes in to say there's been another 0:52:19.960 --> 0:52:23.000 fucking rape and the car is waiting for them at 0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:27.200 Delancey Street station. He sends Munch and Jeffrey's Benson gets 0:52:27.200 --> 0:52:30.239 reassurance from Craigan that they're good, and he's like, we're good, 0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:33.960 We're good. So we're back with an accent heavy uniform 0:52:34.000 --> 0:52:36.080 cop leading them through the subway car and explains that 0:52:36.160 --> 0:52:38.480 the lady was in shock and was taken to the hospital. 0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:41.480 One of the eyewitnesses grabbed the guy's coat and some 0:52:41.600 --> 0:52:44.399 card fell out of the pocket. What's the card? What's 0:52:44.440 --> 0:52:48.840 the card? And it is a parking stub. So but 0:52:49.000 --> 0:52:51.000 he takes the train, So what's with the parking stub? 0:52:51.040 --> 0:52:53.600 That seems very strange to them. So but it is 0:52:53.640 --> 0:52:56.040 their first lead, so they're very excited. The parking stub 0:52:56.120 --> 0:53:00.279 is from six fifty am that morning from Queen's. When 0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:02.239 they go to the garage, the car is not there, 0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:05.600 and so much is suspicious of the parking attendant, like 0:53:05.680 --> 0:53:07.920 how did this dude get this ticket without the. 0:53:07.880 --> 0:53:09.719 Car being dropped off? Like what's going on? 0:53:10.160 --> 0:53:13.120 And he says, well, policy has lost ticket, pays Max 0:53:13.600 --> 0:53:16.919 and he's lying. Munches get like, we all know he's lying. 0:53:16.960 --> 0:53:19.520 Much knows he's lying. So we gotta we gotta get 0:53:19.600 --> 0:53:22.760 to the truth. And Jeffries is digging in the little 0:53:22.760 --> 0:53:26.319 box where do they work in the little box? What 0:53:26.320 --> 0:53:27.760 do they call that little box? 0:53:29.160 --> 0:53:30.840 Whatever? Their little parking box. 0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:35.160 That's where that's where Jeffries is digging around, and she 0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:37.839 finds that the car was picked up a couple hours ago. 0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:41.760 So Munch is like, oh, so the policy has lost ticket, 0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:44.720 you keep the maximum. He doesn't want to get fired, 0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:47.360 so he tells us exactly who this person from the 0:53:47.400 --> 0:53:47.799 car is. 0:53:48.280 --> 0:53:50.719 So he goes, this guy always parks here, white. 0:53:50.520 --> 0:53:54.120 Skinny, pointy nose, a couple of cars, van or a truck, 0:53:54.160 --> 0:53:58.000 but all from the same place, Dual's painting contractors. So 0:53:58.040 --> 0:53:59.880 we head on over to Duels and we talked to 0:53:59.920 --> 0:54:03.359 a painter and white overalls being classic as hell, you know, 0:54:03.560 --> 0:54:06.279 like he looks like he paints, he's carrying stuff, like 0:54:06.320 --> 0:54:09.879 he's busy at the detectives, he has a flannel, he's 0:54:09.920 --> 0:54:12.840 got it going on. And so he tells Jefferys in 0:54:12.920 --> 0:54:15.160 Munch that only one white guy works with them, so 0:54:15.239 --> 0:54:21.120 that's easy, and that's sal Avelino played by sal Viscuso, and. 0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:21.960 He stays working. 0:54:22.040 --> 0:54:24.480 His first credit is the nineteen seventies and he did 0:54:24.560 --> 0:54:28.480 like a bunch of episodes of mash so really exciting. 0:54:28.800 --> 0:54:31.720 And one credit that really caught my eye was he's 0:54:31.760 --> 0:54:35.640 the voice of the Reservoir Dogs video game, which I 0:54:35.719 --> 0:54:40.040 didn't even know that it existed, and it probably is 0:54:40.120 --> 0:54:44.520 really violent, Like do you just saw his ear off, like, I. 0:54:44.560 --> 0:54:50.240 Don't my video great question. Oh yeah, it's Cops. 0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:53.319 It's basically a cops shoot him up game from two 0:54:53.400 --> 0:54:57.920 thousand and six. This is so funny. I wonder if 0:54:57.920 --> 0:55:00.759 it did well, Maybe that'll be my thing. I'll play 0:55:00.840 --> 0:55:05.000 video games from movies like I bet that could get 0:55:05.320 --> 0:55:08.880 get me excited. I mean, the graphics seem worse than 0:55:08.920 --> 0:55:14.719 two thousand and six, but maybe I don't. Maybe two 0:55:14.760 --> 0:55:18.680 thousand and six was just that long ago. Yeah, graphics 0:55:18.719 --> 0:55:22.680 have come along line, that's for sure, but we're still 0:55:22.680 --> 0:55:25.560 talking to the guy just getting scoop and the scoop 0:55:25.560 --> 0:55:28.000 guys like, yeah, Sal's been here for about a year, 0:55:28.120 --> 0:55:31.200 part time, not even that, but you know, because he's 0:55:31.200 --> 0:55:33.359 annoying when he takes the car, you never know when 0:55:33.360 --> 0:55:35.760 he'll come back. He took a car to get some supplies, 0:55:35.880 --> 0:55:37.280 came back three hours later. 0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:39.720 He's like, I'm gonna fire him one of these days. 0:55:39.800 --> 0:55:42.759 And they're like, well, is it the same job, same time, 0:55:42.840 --> 0:55:44.960 type of place, and he goes, no, no, no, it's different 0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:46.920 jobs all over the city, different places. 0:55:47.280 --> 0:55:49.040 It just depends on the errands that come in. 0:55:49.400 --> 0:55:51.799 But like even recently, he took a lunch break a 0:55:51.800 --> 0:55:54.880 few days ago and that lasted all afternoon. And I 0:55:54.920 --> 0:55:57.160 don't think it's a drinking problem. They suggest he's a drunk. 0:55:57.200 --> 0:55:59.680 He's like, no, I'm a drunk. Something else is up 0:55:59.680 --> 0:56:03.920 with these this guy. But Sally is working, so you know. 0:56:04.040 --> 0:56:07.520 They point to his pointy nose. They point to him. 0:56:07.800 --> 0:56:10.880 His nose fits the description. He's covered in paint. This 0:56:11.040 --> 0:56:13.520 is perfect. So they bring his ass in. Munch makes 0:56:13.560 --> 0:56:15.000 fun of him. 0:56:14.320 --> 0:56:17.200 They're like, oh great, you only have twelve dollars in 0:56:17.200 --> 0:56:19.160 his pockets. What a great big fortune. 0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:23.400 And he goes, I'm just a house painter, and Munch's like, yeah, yeah, 0:56:23.440 --> 0:56:26.680 so was Hitler and who was also an impotent schlub 0:56:26.680 --> 0:56:29.439 who needed violence to get it up. It's like, you're 0:56:29.480 --> 0:56:35.319 coming on Strong, Strong. There's no games and confessions here. 0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:38.239 But he has two driver's licenses, which is weird. One 0:56:38.600 --> 0:56:40.080 he's like, oh yeah, yeah, I found it. I just 0:56:40.120 --> 0:56:42.760 didn't have time to return it. It's someone named Sindra 0:56:42.920 --> 0:56:46.480 Lawnstine and she is an organ donor. They ask where 0:56:46.520 --> 0:56:48.240 he finds a He goes, I don't know, a street, 0:56:48.239 --> 0:56:51.239 a job, I'm not sure. Munch goes or the subway, 0:56:51.760 --> 0:56:53.640 and then they find his metro card, which is great, 0:56:53.800 --> 0:56:55.280 so now they can track. 0:56:55.080 --> 0:56:56.160 Wherever he's been going. 0:56:56.920 --> 0:56:59.960 But when they go to get more information from fucking 0:57:00.200 --> 0:57:04.040 trenchy over there, the fucking system is frozen and the 0:57:04.120 --> 0:57:06.840 transit like he's just like, oh, technology, what are you 0:57:06.880 --> 0:57:10.080 gonna do? Munch is getting impatient, so rowdy, and the 0:57:10.120 --> 0:57:12.400 dude is like, what do you want from me? And 0:57:12.480 --> 0:57:15.520 Munch goes to sit on the third rail and walks away. 0:57:16.160 --> 0:57:19.200 So now the painter Sal has a nice young attorney 0:57:19.240 --> 0:57:22.200 who's ready to rumble. She says he can't do the 0:57:22.240 --> 0:57:25.000 lineup right now, and Craigan goes, what are you talking about? 0:57:25.040 --> 0:57:26.320 Like she no one respects her. 0:57:26.480 --> 0:57:29.920 Basically, Craigan assumes it's because he's like too tired or something, 0:57:29.960 --> 0:57:32.400 because he goes, well, he can rest between IDs, we're 0:57:32.440 --> 0:57:34.720 doing it, and then she goes, well, fine, but he 0:57:34.760 --> 0:57:36.960 needs to be first in line, and they're like okay, 0:57:37.160 --> 0:57:39.000 number one, Sal, way to go. 0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:40.560 And it's just. 0:57:42.240 --> 0:57:44.920 So my confusion is like why she was like he 0:57:45.000 --> 0:57:46.480 can't do the lineup today? 0:57:46.680 --> 0:57:48.960 That's like what I wasn't the lawyer, Like, wasn't the 0:57:49.040 --> 0:57:51.560 lawyer like my client is tired? I thought there was 0:57:51.600 --> 0:57:53.640 a line like that where the guy was like, I'm 0:57:53.720 --> 0:57:56.200 defending my dirtbag client and he needs a nap, Like 0:57:56.320 --> 0:57:58.040 I thought there was something like that. 0:57:58.040 --> 0:58:01.000 No, because that's what Craigan responds. He's like, he can 0:58:01.080 --> 0:58:04.800 rest between IDs. But then she's like demands he's going 0:58:04.840 --> 0:58:07.000 to be first in line. And it seems like a 0:58:07.960 --> 0:58:11.840 like an agent like negotiating where it's like. 0:58:11.920 --> 0:58:16.480 Yeah, fine, if you don't use that for that position. Yeah, 0:58:16.520 --> 0:58:18.760 but if she books this pilot, she's out for this 0:58:18.840 --> 0:58:21.800 and you have to let her out. Yeah. It's seemed 0:58:21.920 --> 0:58:23.040 very like okay, so. 0:58:24.120 --> 0:58:26.800 Like you were already ready with another request, like it 0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:30.320 just seems wild, but he allows it. Craigan doesn't care, 0:58:30.400 --> 0:58:32.600 so you know, it's his lucky number one and he 0:58:32.640 --> 0:58:35.120 gets to walk out first. And before they even all 0:58:35.160 --> 0:58:39.000 come out, Nicole Sullivan knows it's number one and it's 0:58:39.080 --> 0:58:40.520 quick and they're like, well, no, you have to wait, 0:58:40.560 --> 0:58:41.760 and she goes, I don't give a shit, I know 0:58:41.800 --> 0:58:44.440 it's number one. And then she asked jeffries, now what 0:58:44.760 --> 0:58:46.520 and they say, well, we'll hit you up when it's 0:58:46.520 --> 0:58:49.960 time to testify for court. And she says, Jen, you 0:58:50.000 --> 0:58:54.160 did great, and she's like yeah, yeah, walks off, and 0:58:54.200 --> 0:58:56.520 then so she go but she goes back into this 0:58:56.560 --> 0:58:58.480 little room where all the other girls are waiting for 0:58:58.520 --> 0:59:02.760 the lineup id as well because she forgot her scarf. 0:59:02.840 --> 0:59:05.160 But then one of the women, the Emo woman, asks 0:59:05.200 --> 0:59:07.720 how was it? And she goes short and quick, and 0:59:07.960 --> 0:59:11.000 another woman goes like him, and then the Emo girls 0:59:11.080 --> 0:59:13.479 that little bastard, and then the man in the suit 0:59:13.520 --> 0:59:15.880 that's obviously supposed to be there to make sure something 0:59:15.960 --> 0:59:18.800 like this doesn't happen goes, ah, you can't do it, 0:59:18.880 --> 0:59:21.320 and then Jeffries enters and she is pissed. 0:59:21.360 --> 0:59:22.280 She's like fuck. 0:59:23.120 --> 0:59:25.400 So they talk to the suit man in the office 0:59:25.520 --> 0:59:28.000 and it's so it's Kragan's office as much as they're Jeffreys. 0:59:28.040 --> 0:59:29.440 They're all mad at this guy and he's like, it 0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:31.480 happens so quick, and they're like, yeah, you should have 0:59:31.520 --> 0:59:37.840 been faster, loser. So then he then goes super sexist immediately. 0:59:38.240 --> 0:59:40.480 Oh you know there are six women in there. You know, 0:59:40.520 --> 0:59:43.800 they all start yacking at once. And this is another 0:59:43.960 --> 0:59:48.520 fucking weird word choice, like yaking to me is puking. 0:59:48.840 --> 0:59:51.760 And then I know about yapping, but I didn't know yaking. 0:59:51.880 --> 0:59:54.240 Well, what about the song that goes yackety yack, don't 0:59:54.240 --> 0:59:59.680 talk back? Whoa yeah, yaking as barf, Like is a 0:59:59.760 --> 1:00:02.680 late or that's a more that's a more recent thing. 1:00:03.040 --> 1:00:05.560 There's a lot of shit on the show that is like, 1:00:05.960 --> 1:00:07.760 you know, it started in ninety nine. A lot of 1:00:07.800 --> 1:00:11.840 the writers are older. Like there's something else in the 1:00:11.960 --> 1:00:13.960 in the next episode we're gonna do that's like an 1:00:14.000 --> 1:00:15.960 old definition of something that I had to look up 1:00:15.960 --> 1:00:17.840 and was like, oh, they're using like the old definition 1:00:17.880 --> 1:00:20.480 of it. Like it's just, you know, I don't want 1:00:20.520 --> 1:00:22.520 to I'm not trying to be agis against the writers, 1:00:22.560 --> 1:00:27.439 but you know, it's not all like holding up or choice. Yeah, 1:00:27.440 --> 1:00:30.880 these are so fucking weird in this one, they all 1:00:30.960 --> 1:00:34.400 start yacking at once, you know, these broads like yeah, 1:00:34.400 --> 1:00:37.000 it's a definite. It's like you could have. 1:00:36.640 --> 1:00:40.800 Screamed loud above them, like you could have shoved her out, 1:00:40.880 --> 1:00:43.680 Like there's just so much But why why were you 1:00:43.720 --> 1:00:46.760 even outside to make sure that she yeah, go in, 1:00:47.000 --> 1:00:48.120 grab her scarf for her? 1:00:49.560 --> 1:00:52.080 So I supposed to be in so that he could 1:00:52.080 --> 1:00:54.280 stop them from comparing notes and talking to each other. 1:00:54.320 --> 1:00:56.160 Why can't they all be in separate rooms like to 1:00:56.240 --> 1:00:59.640 avoid any kind of tainting. I don't know, it's very confusing, 1:00:59.680 --> 1:01:02.760 but I remember this scene all the time. I always 1:01:02.800 --> 1:01:06.040 think about this scene because I'm like, oh yeah, like 1:01:06.520 --> 1:01:08.440 when someone's there for an ID, you can't let them 1:01:08.480 --> 1:01:11.480 be near anyone else. And yet this show constantly like parades, 1:01:11.520 --> 1:01:15.800 witnesses by each other, parades, purps by victims, like everybody's 1:01:15.800 --> 1:01:19.200 constantly just like oopsie, this fancy meeting you here in 1:01:19.280 --> 1:01:22.120 this precinct. Like it's just it's I mean, it's a 1:01:22.120 --> 1:01:24.800 TV device, but it's kind of nuts because I'm always like, 1:01:24.840 --> 1:01:27.800 don't forget season one, the idea was tainted anyway. 1:01:28.280 --> 1:01:30.960 I know we're at court arguing just this, the two 1:01:30.960 --> 1:01:32.360 white women brunette lawyers. 1:01:32.400 --> 1:01:33.680 They're fighting to the judge. 1:01:33.880 --> 1:01:37.880 Who's Peter Francis James playing Judge Kevin Beck. 1:01:37.920 --> 1:01:40.040 And we've seen him before. I think he's one of 1:01:40.040 --> 1:01:41.200 the sexier judges. 1:01:41.640 --> 1:01:44.600 And he has been in five episodes all season one 1:01:44.600 --> 1:01:47.880 and two, which is wild because I really he's made 1:01:47.920 --> 1:01:48.720 an impression on me. 1:01:48.760 --> 1:01:51.360 I would say, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, this guy had 1:01:51.600 --> 1:01:52.960 I had to refresh, but yeah, I. 1:01:52.920 --> 1:01:56.200 Know, I don't watch season one or two that often, 1:01:56.760 --> 1:01:58.680 and it was just a sunder for season two, So 1:01:58.720 --> 1:02:02.400 I am like, why am I so obsessed with him? 1:02:03.040 --> 1:02:06.520 Yeah? I don't know. He's also a theater boy. Man. 1:02:07.760 --> 1:02:12.000 He definitely a man. Oh and he in twenty two 1:02:12.120 --> 1:02:15.200 twenty three was in the revival of Funny Girl, Oh 1:02:15.240 --> 1:02:18.480 Cool with the Liah Michelle of this podcast Liah Michelle. 1:02:21.400 --> 1:02:26.760 Yeah, sexy judge and you know, listen, does this exchange 1:02:26.840 --> 1:02:27.520 during the lineup? 1:02:27.560 --> 1:02:29.680 Fuck up the trial or not? What will he decide? 1:02:29.720 --> 1:02:31.520 And uh? Oh case dismissed. 1:02:31.920 --> 1:02:34.280 Munch and Jeffreys look at each other in despair and 1:02:34.280 --> 1:02:37.600 that we remember what this is called the gallows, the galley, 1:02:37.960 --> 1:02:41.600 the audience court. Oh we figured this out. Yeah, I 1:02:41.640 --> 1:02:42.240 think it's. 1:02:42.160 --> 1:02:44.200 Galley, the gallery. 1:02:44.400 --> 1:02:48.320 We've said Gali, but I think gallery, gallery gallery. 1:02:48.360 --> 1:02:49.080 I knew it was something. 1:02:49.400 --> 1:02:51.919 So they're back at the office and Stabler's leaning back 1:02:51.920 --> 1:02:55.000 in a chair just like fuck. So without an idea, 1:02:55.080 --> 1:02:58.800 it could just be considered consensual? What And then it's like, 1:02:58.840 --> 1:03:01.120 what do you mean can said sex with a stranger 1:03:01.160 --> 1:03:03.760 in a subway holding a box cutter? On what fucking planet? 1:03:03.800 --> 1:03:06.000 They're like, what planet is this judge on? And then 1:03:06.040 --> 1:03:10.280 Benson goes Planet of the Apes and this man is 1:03:10.320 --> 1:03:14.640 not white? Yeah, it is not a good it's crazy. 1:03:14.880 --> 1:03:16.880 I don't think we meant to catch Benson an a 1:03:17.000 --> 1:03:21.160 racist moment, but I think but we did in by accident. 1:03:21.200 --> 1:03:25.160 Whether it's a microaggression or not, it is definitely not 1:03:25.240 --> 1:03:28.200 a good look. No, it's really bad. I'm glad you 1:03:28.320 --> 1:03:31.160 also caught that. I was like, am I gonna just 1:03:31.280 --> 1:03:35.440 pretend that didn't happen? We love Marushka, she didn't do anything. No, 1:03:35.560 --> 1:03:38.360 we have to say something. But I think she also 1:03:38.760 --> 1:03:42.040 is referring to just like it's a man who doesn't 1:03:42.040 --> 1:03:44.480 care about what happens to women, you know. But it's 1:03:44.680 --> 1:03:45.560 bad word choice. 1:03:45.960 --> 1:03:49.080 Yeah, And so then Kraigan just wants to keep it moving. 1:03:49.160 --> 1:03:51.520 He's like, Okay, so what about the ID we found 1:03:51.560 --> 1:03:53.080 seize your los Lonstein. 1:03:53.160 --> 1:03:54.120 Maybe that's our ticket. 1:03:54.520 --> 1:03:56.919 She hasn't returned their calls though, and the DMV has 1:03:56.960 --> 1:03:58.800 not sent her a new idea yet. And that was 1:03:58.920 --> 1:04:01.560 seven months ago. All of her credit card numbers, though, 1:04:01.600 --> 1:04:05.400 were changed at that time, so something occurred seven months ago. 1:04:06.000 --> 1:04:08.720 Her address changed, credit card numbers changed, and she could 1:04:08.760 --> 1:04:11.720 be one of the victims and not attainted witness. Towards 1:04:11.720 --> 1:04:14.919 the end of this meeting, Craigan realizes, wait, Jeffries isn't here, 1:04:14.960 --> 1:04:17.040 what the fuck? And Munch goes, Oh, she's sitting on 1:04:17.080 --> 1:04:20.160 his ass ready to arrest him. He smirks, he likes that. 1:04:20.680 --> 1:04:23.680 So you know, we see her car. So he's using 1:04:23.720 --> 1:04:25.880 a box cutter to open boxes. He's at work, he's 1:04:25.920 --> 1:04:29.720 carrying paint things, and Jeffries is watching closely from her vehicle. 1:04:30.120 --> 1:04:32.080 And so now we go to some random man working 1:04:32.120 --> 1:04:34.120 in the streets, like, I don't know who this is, 1:04:34.200 --> 1:04:36.960 and Stable I've said, that's so many this I don't know. 1:04:36.960 --> 1:04:39.080 There's something about season one that is not as clear 1:04:39.120 --> 1:04:41.480 than when they had their formulas, Like it is just 1:04:41.640 --> 1:04:43.560 more I think they're still working it out. 1:04:43.760 --> 1:04:47.240 Yeah, like I get more confused, I would say in 1:04:47.280 --> 1:04:50.600 the earlier because there was another episode we did recently 1:04:50.600 --> 1:04:52.280 where there was like a whole scene where we both 1:04:52.320 --> 1:04:53.720 were like, I have no idea. 1:04:53.480 --> 1:04:55.840 What just yeah, what is happening here? Yeah, So as 1:04:55.880 --> 1:04:57.760 I think it's like trying to set up red herrings 1:04:57.800 --> 1:05:00.040 and get people to think move their thoughts to a 1:05:00.080 --> 1:05:02.560 different thing, and like it's just something you're like, why 1:05:02.600 --> 1:05:04.600 is that even here? Especially if you're used to like 1:05:04.640 --> 1:05:08.200 the more efficient like current or middle seasons, you know 1:05:08.800 --> 1:05:11.240 where it's like down to a science. 1:05:11.640 --> 1:05:14.000 Yeah, so we're at just like a random man and 1:05:14.080 --> 1:05:17.000 Stabler and Munch asks if he knows Sedra, and he does. 1:05:17.640 --> 1:05:20.240 She's the cleaning she's a cleaning lady with the Mona 1:05:20.280 --> 1:05:23.800 Lisa smile. But she works at thirty fourth Street subway station, 1:05:23.880 --> 1:05:26.200 which is five blocks away from her place. But she 1:05:26.240 --> 1:05:28.120 has to ride all the way to ninety sixth Street 1:05:28.120 --> 1:05:29.880 to punch in and then has to go all the 1:05:29.880 --> 1:05:31.560 way back, and then I wonder if she has to 1:05:31.560 --> 1:05:33.160 go all the way back to clock out, like that 1:05:33.360 --> 1:05:36.960 is insane, but he says she never complains and that 1:05:37.000 --> 1:05:37.760 she's a saint. 1:05:38.280 --> 1:05:40.080 So Benson goes down to. 1:05:40.040 --> 1:05:43.920 The reporter and she's pissed and he's like, whatever, you 1:05:43.920 --> 1:05:45.720 didn't let me read it, so your boss needs to 1:05:45.800 --> 1:05:48.800 chill out, and she goes, yeah, yeah, you found it 1:05:48.840 --> 1:05:52.120 with your reporter instincts. But guess what, my captain isn't 1:05:52.160 --> 1:05:54.320 gonna care about the details, so it looks like I 1:05:54.440 --> 1:05:57.280 screwed up. And he says, you're being too hard on yourself, 1:05:57.360 --> 1:05:59.160 and she tells him to save it and throws a 1:05:59.200 --> 1:06:01.640 file on his desk. It's a cold case. You want 1:06:01.640 --> 1:06:04.040 a good story, you should check it out. He looks 1:06:04.080 --> 1:06:08.360 at it and he reads aloud Philip sternet Hagen convicted 1:06:08.400 --> 1:06:09.920 of strangulation and tortured. 1:06:09.960 --> 1:06:10.920 Who the hell is this? 1:06:11.000 --> 1:06:13.200 And Benson says, Oh, it's a guy who had a 1:06:13.280 --> 1:06:16.080 rich fantasy life who couldn't stop a man who uses 1:06:16.080 --> 1:06:19.120 women without the slightest tinge of regret. He gets what's 1:06:19.120 --> 1:06:21.560 happening now and shuts the file and shifts in a seat, 1:06:21.560 --> 1:06:25.040 and she says, a man like you, A man like you, 1:06:25.520 --> 1:06:27.600 And then all of his coworkers are staring at him. 1:06:28.160 --> 1:06:30.360 You get an idea of why Benson doesn't date much. 1:06:30.400 --> 1:06:32.240 They set it up real quick at the beginning. 1:06:33.600 --> 1:06:35.880 Well, because I forgot about this guy in this episode 1:06:35.880 --> 1:06:38.160 because in the future, when she talks about dying, she says, 1:06:38.160 --> 1:06:39.959 it's like the people that want to recreate the file, 1:06:40.000 --> 1:06:43.360 like they're two turned on like that. I bet there's 1:06:43.400 --> 1:06:45.920 people that are just looking for an SVU detective or 1:06:45.960 --> 1:06:47.160 something or some sort. 1:06:47.000 --> 1:06:50.120 Of well, and she's also like only dating ever guys 1:06:50.120 --> 1:06:52.680 that are just conveniently right there falling in love with 1:06:52.760 --> 1:06:57.880 the city. Yeah, Cassidy, this reporter guy, it'll randomly be 1:06:58.120 --> 1:07:01.160 FBI guys, or like that Da in the Bronx from 1:07:01.160 --> 1:07:02.920 the episode we did with Michael Beach. You know, it's 1:07:02.960 --> 1:07:03.760 like always working. 1:07:03.760 --> 1:07:06.520 That what happens if you all you do is work, 1:07:06.600 --> 1:07:08.200 everyone you date will be from work. 1:07:08.280 --> 1:07:10.200 Yeah, it's all just like people that fall in love 1:07:10.200 --> 1:07:12.200 with her on the job. And then she's like, it's 1:07:12.240 --> 1:07:13.840 too close to work. Yeah. 1:07:13.880 --> 1:07:17.120 And then one abuser from her past, you know, the 1:07:17.600 --> 1:07:21.960 quin guy. But okay, okay, So Munch and Sailor go 1:07:22.000 --> 1:07:23.000 to chat with Cedra. 1:07:23.440 --> 1:07:25.400 They show her the ID. Oh my god, she's so 1:07:25.440 --> 1:07:26.560 happy to have it back. 1:07:26.960 --> 1:07:28.760 They ask if she lost in She goes, yeah, on 1:07:28.800 --> 1:07:31.720 the subway, you know, some guy bumped into me. And 1:07:31.760 --> 1:07:34.720 then Munch clocks her pregnant belly immediately and she sits 1:07:34.720 --> 1:07:37.280 at Craigan's desk and she puts her feet up. So 1:07:37.280 --> 1:07:39.320 they meet her at the train station. They bring her 1:07:39.360 --> 1:07:42.640 into the police station and she's chilling. 1:07:42.640 --> 1:07:43.280 They're all being. 1:07:43.160 --> 1:07:45.600 Really really sweet to her, and then she goes, hey, 1:07:45.720 --> 1:07:48.280 we're all just civil servants here. And she goes, oh please, 1:07:48.360 --> 1:07:51.120 I'm a janitor on the subway and she giggles, and 1:07:51.160 --> 1:07:55.000 Sailor goes, tough job, and she's doing eight or nine weeks, 1:07:55.000 --> 1:07:58.320 and Sablor starts babbling about his wife's pregnancy and timing 1:07:58.440 --> 1:08:01.240 and he smiles at her, and basically she's not getting it. 1:08:01.280 --> 1:08:02.840 But they all think the rapist is the father of 1:08:02.880 --> 1:08:05.880 her baby. Since that happened seven months ago, she's doing 1:08:05.920 --> 1:08:07.760 eight to nine weeks, it's closer to ten months. 1:08:07.800 --> 1:08:08.800 Blah blah blah. 1:08:08.880 --> 1:08:10.960 You know, he took the wallet and she's like, yeah, 1:08:10.960 --> 1:08:13.560 I'm so happy you got it back. But so I 1:08:13.560 --> 1:08:16.160 think she's naive, I'm not really sure, or she's trying 1:08:16.160 --> 1:08:16.960 to keep it secret. 1:08:17.000 --> 1:08:19.760 She wants this baby, I don't get I feel as 1:08:19.840 --> 1:08:23.200 though they are trying to portray her as possibly a 1:08:23.240 --> 1:08:26.280 little bit not all there, you know. 1:08:27.240 --> 1:08:29.280 So then Kragan bends down to her level and goes, so, 1:08:29.320 --> 1:08:30.840 what kind of bump was it? And she's like it 1:08:30.880 --> 1:08:33.200 was an accident, you know, the car was crowded and 1:08:33.240 --> 1:08:34.920 I was off duty. And he's like, well, were we 1:08:34.920 --> 1:08:37.760 wearing a dress? She goes, oh, yeah, But again she 1:08:37.840 --> 1:08:40.800 is not understanding what's happening. She asks whether asking her 1:08:40.840 --> 1:08:43.280 all these questions, and Munch bends down to the ground 1:08:43.320 --> 1:08:46.240 and pleads like that they need her help. So she's 1:08:46.240 --> 1:08:49.040 an overall's pink turtleneck again like an in like a 1:08:49.160 --> 1:08:53.160 young outfit, and she finally agrees to help and drops 1:08:53.200 --> 1:08:55.760 the game. She's like and so they show her the mugshots. 1:08:55.760 --> 1:08:58.240 She points to sal it was him. They offer to 1:08:58.240 --> 1:09:00.439 get her food and Stabler helps her eyes. She says, 1:09:00.479 --> 1:09:03.000 grab my arm, not my hand. I have a cold, 1:09:03.040 --> 1:09:05.800 and then she grabs his hand immediately, so now they 1:09:05.800 --> 1:09:07.559 do have to go pick him up. But she's not 1:09:07.560 --> 1:09:10.880 going to admit that it's rape. So Kragan's like, Munch, well, 1:09:11.000 --> 1:09:13.760 we need to make him say it then, so they 1:09:13.800 --> 1:09:16.200 push him down. Jeffrey's and Munch meet him in cement 1:09:16.280 --> 1:09:21.280 room bars and Munch mentions the amniocentesis on a complaining 1:09:21.280 --> 1:09:24.760 witness and he's like, whoa for pregnant ladies? And he's 1:09:24.800 --> 1:09:27.840 like kind of happy. He's like, you're not putting me 1:09:27.880 --> 1:09:30.000 on right. This must be some kind of bluff, and 1:09:30.080 --> 1:09:32.760 Jeffries goes, well, the first seven women you got lucky there, 1:09:32.800 --> 1:09:34.760 but not number eight bad luck. 1:09:34.840 --> 1:09:35.720 You knocked her up. 1:09:35.920 --> 1:09:39.760 He's like what he like, cannot believe this, and then 1:09:39.800 --> 1:09:42.679 Cidra sits out there with Stabler and he's confused because 1:09:42.720 --> 1:09:44.559 he had a cold for a week and then she 1:09:44.720 --> 1:09:47.679 touched him and now it's gone, so she's a witch 1:09:47.880 --> 1:09:51.160 burn her, and then they bring sal out and they 1:09:51.200 --> 1:09:54.040 actually chocked, like this is like running into each other. 1:09:54.040 --> 1:09:57.280 That's become classic SVU. But because it's season one, like, 1:09:57.320 --> 1:09:59.639 what's going on? And I assumed it was set up 1:09:59.760 --> 1:10:03.920 by the detectives, but like Stabler seems pissed and Munches 1:10:04.000 --> 1:10:05.800 to hold him back and be like, no, let's see 1:10:05.800 --> 1:10:08.400 what happens. So it doesn't seem that planned, but it 1:10:08.400 --> 1:10:12.719 seems so obvious. I'm obsessed. So yeah, So the pregnant woman, 1:10:13.080 --> 1:10:15.920 she sees the you know, the rapists, they're they're interacting, 1:10:15.960 --> 1:10:19.200 and he goes, oh my god, flower dress, tulips. 1:10:19.240 --> 1:10:20.559 They said you were number eight. 1:10:20.640 --> 1:10:23.720 I was wondering what happened because I knew it when 1:10:23.960 --> 1:10:26.760 we when I did you, something beautiful could happen, and 1:10:26.760 --> 1:10:29.920 that you would get pregnant and have my baby. When 1:10:29.920 --> 1:10:32.479 I get out, we will be together, okay, a family. 1:10:32.640 --> 1:10:36.320 Jeffreys carries him out as he says, my baby, my baby. 1:10:36.640 --> 1:10:39.759 Stablor joins in, dragging his ass out, and then Cadra 1:10:39.960 --> 1:10:43.559 like cries into Munsha's chest and that stick wolf baby. 1:10:44.439 --> 1:10:46.679 It is kind of weird that like I had Audra 1:10:46.800 --> 1:10:49.320 McDonald on staff, and they didn't have her do like 1:10:49.360 --> 1:10:51.599 a super quick work up on what's going on with Cidra. 1:10:51.800 --> 1:10:56.960 Like she's like she's avoiding, like she basically has mentally 1:10:56.960 --> 1:10:58.840 blocked out this trauma that happened to her and is 1:10:58.920 --> 1:11:02.680 like channeling everything into like excitement about being pregnant. And 1:11:03.760 --> 1:11:05.800 I don't know, like that would have been like to me, 1:11:05.880 --> 1:11:08.439 a interesting little thing to do about, like, oh, yeah, 1:11:08.439 --> 1:11:11.679 this can happen. You can be assaulted and seven months 1:11:11.760 --> 1:11:16.680 later still not fully let yourself be even acknowledge it, 1:11:16.840 --> 1:11:19.960 you know. Yeah, and if she's so child like, like 1:11:20.000 --> 1:11:21.920 I wonder if she's out there fucking around or not, 1:11:22.200 --> 1:11:28.800 you know, outside of this weird attack. Yeah, well a 1:11:28.840 --> 1:11:33.960 wild one, a haunting one. I mean anyway, it's also 1:11:34.240 --> 1:11:36.280 you know, the true crime is not gonna get any better, 1:11:36.320 --> 1:11:47.400 so buckle up, everybody. This episode, I believe is based 1:11:47.400 --> 1:11:50.520 on the nineteen ninety eight James Smith case in Brooklyn 1:11:50.960 --> 1:11:53.800 in November of nineteen ninety eight, which is, you know 1:11:54.120 --> 1:11:57.000 what the year before this episode came out, probably like 1:11:57.080 --> 1:12:00.759 right as they were writing this season. Police and Nasau County, 1:12:00.840 --> 1:12:03.040 New York, which is Long Island arrested a twenty nine 1:12:03.080 --> 1:12:05.840 year old named James Smith in connection with a fifteen 1:12:05.920 --> 1:12:08.280 year old girl who he had attempted to sexually assault 1:12:08.360 --> 1:12:11.559 a week earlier. And guess how they found him. She 1:12:11.760 --> 1:12:14.439 spotted his ass on the damn street a week later. 1:12:14.520 --> 1:12:16.000 She was walking down the street with her mind and 1:12:16.000 --> 1:12:18.120 she's like, that's the fucking guy that tried to rape 1:12:18.120 --> 1:12:21.320 me at the subway at the bus stop. I think. 1:12:21.800 --> 1:12:25.320 So she had managed to get away and call police 1:12:25.479 --> 1:12:28.200 and then save the day when she spotted him a 1:12:28.200 --> 1:12:30.600 week later. This was in Freeport, New York, where he 1:12:30.680 --> 1:12:33.720 was also accused of sexually abusing a sixteen year old, 1:12:34.320 --> 1:12:38.960 and he had several aliases, including Bart Roman and Robert Gaines. 1:12:39.479 --> 1:12:41.719 And while he had a long rap sheet of drug 1:12:41.760 --> 1:12:44.479 and robbery convictions, he had never been arrested for sexual assault. 1:12:44.520 --> 1:12:46.840 So this was not This was definitely the case of 1:12:47.120 --> 1:12:51.920 somebody's m O changing, right. So he was eventually connected 1:12:51.960 --> 1:12:54.479 to a string of attacks on women waiting for trains 1:12:54.520 --> 1:12:57.759 or buses in Park Slope, Carroll Gardens, and downtown Brooklyn. 1:12:58.160 --> 1:13:00.840 All of these attacks were connected by the victims who 1:13:00.840 --> 1:13:03.320 had all given a similar description of the guy, plus 1:13:03.560 --> 1:13:06.040 fingerprints that several of the scenes matched each other, so 1:13:06.080 --> 1:13:09.960 we were the police in Brooklyn were all working on 1:13:10.320 --> 1:13:12.880 like finding this one guy, and then he gets arrested 1:13:12.920 --> 1:13:16.559 in Long Island, which are separate obviously police departments. Smith 1:13:16.640 --> 1:13:20.320 had become a suspect in the Brooklyn attacks after someone 1:13:20.360 --> 1:13:24.200 anonymously called Brooklyn SVU about him, and I'm like, who 1:13:24.240 --> 1:13:26.240 is this Who's calling? Is it someone he knows? Like 1:13:26.280 --> 1:13:28.680 did he brag about the crimes to somebody? Like we 1:13:28.800 --> 1:13:30.800 never find out, but like, who is this anonymous call? 1:13:30.880 --> 1:13:32.840 That's just like, by the way, the guy you're looking 1:13:32.840 --> 1:13:37.040 for in Brooklyn is James Smith. Apparently his mugshot was published, 1:13:37.080 --> 1:13:39.440 and when it was published, he fled the city, presumably 1:13:39.439 --> 1:13:41.280 to Long Island, which is where he went on he like, 1:13:41.360 --> 1:13:42.960 even though he knew the police in Brooklyn to look 1:13:43.000 --> 1:13:45.240 for me, like, can't stop attacking women, so he does 1:13:45.280 --> 1:13:47.680 it in Long Island until he gets caught there. In 1:13:47.720 --> 1:13:50.479 the Brooklyn spree, he attacked his first victim on the 1:13:50.520 --> 1:13:53.280 subway platform for the M train in March of ninety eight, 1:13:53.640 --> 1:13:55.680 flashing a gun at his nineteen year old victim and 1:13:55.680 --> 1:13:57.959 then assaulting her at the end of the platform. Horrible. 1:13:58.600 --> 1:14:01.839 Six months later in September, a man fitting his description 1:14:02.080 --> 1:14:05.320 Rob dripped and sodomized a twenty year old after following 1:14:05.320 --> 1:14:07.840 her onto the G train. So that's probably the one 1:14:07.840 --> 1:14:12.400 that's most likely related to the episode because it happened 1:14:12.439 --> 1:14:15.439 on the moving train. This was around eleven thirty PM 1:14:16.160 --> 1:14:18.200 and not like four am, like there must have been 1:14:18.240 --> 1:14:20.120 people on the train, like a G train at eleven 1:14:20.200 --> 1:14:22.519 thirty at night there are people on it. So I 1:14:22.520 --> 1:14:25.880 don't know. But less than two hours later they believed 1:14:25.920 --> 1:14:28.040 he used a box cutter to threaten a fifteen year 1:14:28.040 --> 1:14:30.960 old girl, who he assaulted while she was waiting for 1:14:31.040 --> 1:14:33.760 the B sixty one bus in downtown Brooklyn. And then 1:14:33.800 --> 1:14:35.880 he got away in a cab. So this guy's like 1:14:36.000 --> 1:14:39.840 jumping into cabs running away. It's wild. The last crime 1:14:39.960 --> 1:14:42.559 in this little wave of crimes happened at nine point 1:14:42.560 --> 1:14:46.000 thirty in the damn morning. About six days later. He 1:14:46.080 --> 1:14:47.960 pretended to have a gun and threatened to shoot a 1:14:48.000 --> 1:14:50.360 twenty three year old on an R train unless she 1:14:50.400 --> 1:14:54.080 performed oral sex on him, and that was also on 1:14:54.120 --> 1:14:56.080 a moving train, but as the train approached the station 1:14:56.160 --> 1:14:59.800 in Park Slope she refused. He fled, so a couple 1:14:59.840 --> 1:15:03.280 of times his victims got away. But it's wild because 1:15:03.320 --> 1:15:05.800 like the first case was March and then six months later. 1:15:05.880 --> 1:15:07.920 It was like a bunch of cases in quick successions. 1:15:07.960 --> 1:15:11.000 So I wonder if he definitely attacked in the six 1:15:11.040 --> 1:15:13.840 months and that women just didn't report it or what, 1:15:14.080 --> 1:15:16.280 because I can't imagine this guy just like took a break. 1:15:16.760 --> 1:15:20.360 But now considering that he committed two crimes within ten 1:15:20.400 --> 1:15:22.639 hours of each other, and then another one six days later, 1:15:23.360 --> 1:15:25.240 now we get to the point in my research where 1:15:25.280 --> 1:15:27.479 I find out that the guy's name was actually Bart 1:15:27.600 --> 1:15:30.439 Roman and that James Smith was an alias. But it's 1:15:30.560 --> 1:15:32.160 very weird that the New York Times did not go 1:15:32.240 --> 1:15:35.000 back and correct any of that. They are just calling 1:15:35.040 --> 1:15:37.360 him James Smith in all of their articles. So his 1:15:37.439 --> 1:15:40.160 name is Bart Roman, and he was eventually indicted on 1:15:40.240 --> 1:15:43.000 thirty five counts in December of ninety eight, and he 1:15:43.080 --> 1:15:46.840 pled not guilty, but he was convicted, and I can't 1:15:46.840 --> 1:15:48.880 find out how many counts he got, but he received 1:15:48.880 --> 1:15:53.200 one hundred years. So then I'm going to look him 1:15:53.280 --> 1:15:57.719 up in the incarceration database and he's listed as Robert Gaines, 1:15:57.760 --> 1:16:00.600 which is one of his other names, So I'm like, 1:16:00.640 --> 1:16:02.760 how many names are you legally allowed to have? Like 1:16:02.800 --> 1:16:05.920 I thought he would be under bart Roman in jail, 1:16:06.040 --> 1:16:08.920 but if you look him up under bart Roman there's 1:16:08.960 --> 1:16:11.839 his earlier robbery charges. But if you look under Robert Gaines, 1:16:12.200 --> 1:16:15.599 you see that he's incarcerated at Mohawk Correctional Facility in Rome, 1:16:15.760 --> 1:16:17.920 New York. He received one hundred years. Did I say 1:16:17.920 --> 1:16:23.000 that already? He's he's in there for convictions of sodomy 1:16:23.000 --> 1:16:25.200 in the first, sexual abuse in the first, attempted rape 1:16:25.200 --> 1:16:27.360 in the first, and robbery in the third. And he's 1:16:27.360 --> 1:16:31.160 not eligible for parole until twenty ninety nine. So that's life. Baby, 1:16:31.240 --> 1:16:34.559 he's not getting out. And what's wild is that when 1:16:34.560 --> 1:16:36.960 I went to go then google him under Robert L. Gaines, 1:16:37.160 --> 1:16:40.080 there is a different rapist in Cleveland named Robert L. Gaines. 1:16:40.160 --> 1:16:43.960 So it's not all men except most men named Robert Gaines. 1:16:44.800 --> 1:16:48.760 So that's the crime that this is based on, with 1:16:49.200 --> 1:16:51.719 a little twist of the man got away using many 1:16:51.720 --> 1:16:56.720 different names. But it's really crazy. There's not too too 1:16:56.800 --> 1:16:59.960 much about this, like after he is, about the actual 1:17:00.160 --> 1:17:02.719 trial or anything. There's just like when he gets sentenced 1:17:02.760 --> 1:17:05.720 and stuff, and but oh yeah, but one of the 1:17:05.840 --> 1:17:09.000 one of the articles I read was saying that somebody 1:17:09.080 --> 1:17:11.920 tried to go get somebody on one of these crime 1:17:12.040 --> 1:17:13.479 and during one of these crimes, I think the one 1:17:13.479 --> 1:17:16.720 where he assaulted someone on the train and due to cutbacks, 1:17:16.760 --> 1:17:19.080 there was no drive, there was no conductor at that car, 1:17:19.200 --> 1:17:21.800 so it was like hard to find anybody who could 1:17:21.840 --> 1:17:24.120 stop the train or call the police or anything like that. 1:17:24.720 --> 1:17:28.240 So but it is it is wild how packed the 1:17:28.280 --> 1:17:31.720 train is and nobody is helping in this episode. But 1:17:31.800 --> 1:17:35.080 that's that on that a short, a short crime. He 1:17:35.160 --> 1:17:37.719 still resides in prison where he will reside till he dies, 1:17:37.960 --> 1:17:40.680 and I think that's probably for the best. We have 1:17:40.720 --> 1:17:43.720 an amazing guest, incredible, I have an assizing guests. We 1:17:43.760 --> 1:17:45.800 have an amazing guest. Don't go anywhere. You're gonna get 1:17:45.800 --> 1:17:49.800 your palette cleanse from all the laundingness of this episode 1:17:49.840 --> 1:18:00.559 and true crime. Don't go anywhere, guys, Today's Guests is 1:18:00.600 --> 1:18:03.320 a comedy icon. She was an original cast member on 1:18:03.400 --> 1:18:06.479 mad TV, a regular on sitcoms like King of Queens 1:18:06.520 --> 1:18:09.760 and Blackish. She's a prolific voice actor. You can hear 1:18:09.760 --> 1:18:13.360 on Family Guy, Kim Possible, The Penguins of Madagascar, and 1:18:13.640 --> 1:18:16.479 truly just a huge figure in Lisa and My lives 1:18:16.520 --> 1:18:20.120 growing up, and you know her today as Jen Calder, 1:18:20.240 --> 1:18:22.519 the victim who accidentally gets her case thrown out for 1:18:22.600 --> 1:18:26.120 biasing other victims. Please enjoy our chat with the iconic 1:18:26.200 --> 1:18:30.840 Nicole Sullivan. Yay, my gosh, so happy you're here. Ah, 1:18:31.479 --> 1:18:33.360 this is a yet I never thought we would get. 1:18:33.479 --> 1:18:36.320 I really never thought this would happen, you guy. You 1:18:36.400 --> 1:18:42.640 guys are so entertaining, Like, oh, I'm not I don't. 1:18:42.400 --> 1:18:45.080 Like I mean, I listened to podcasts, but like a 1:18:45.120 --> 1:18:47.519 few here and there, Like I just I can't listen 1:18:47.840 --> 1:18:51.120 that much to people, and I'm such a reality whore, 1:18:51.800 --> 1:18:54.000 so like I try to follow the reality stuff and 1:18:54.040 --> 1:18:56.840 like sometimes I'm just like okay, okay, shut then. 1:18:57.120 --> 1:19:00.640 And I don't feel that you guys, I mind. You 1:19:00.680 --> 1:19:04.639 so entertaining. That's like, oh my god, an honor, because 1:19:04.960 --> 1:19:08.479 I like grew up a huge Mad TV fan, like 1:19:09.280 --> 1:19:13.679 flipping the channels back between Fox and like Fox and SNL, 1:19:13.840 --> 1:19:16.160 you know, NBC, so that I can watch SNL mad TV. 1:19:16.479 --> 1:19:19.240 But I always loved mad TV because you guys did 1:19:19.280 --> 1:19:21.800 all these parodies and I wasn't really I was like 1:19:21.880 --> 1:19:24.920 political comedy wasn't really my thing then, and I was like, 1:19:25.000 --> 1:19:28.599 I love these parodies. I love these characters, Like, I mean, 1:19:28.640 --> 1:19:30.760 I don't know, you're just like one of the You're 1:19:30.840 --> 1:19:34.559 one of my comedy like legends of my youth. And 1:19:34.600 --> 1:19:38.640 I'm like so excited to talk to you today. We 1:19:38.680 --> 1:19:40.799 have to cut the gushing. We cannot have our listeners 1:19:40.880 --> 1:19:44.240 hearing this. They cannot hear me, you know, bowing down 1:19:44.360 --> 1:19:49.000 like this, they can hear it. Status status is important. Yeah, 1:19:49.040 --> 1:19:51.360 Like I'm gonna they're gonna lose respect for me if 1:19:51.360 --> 1:19:54.240 they just hear me just telling you how obsessed I am. 1:19:54.840 --> 1:19:56.599 Well, so you know you were a fan of Law 1:19:56.600 --> 1:19:59.960 and Order going in when you got the SVU of 1:20:00.080 --> 1:20:01.200 at All, what were your thoughts? 1:20:01.240 --> 1:20:02.120 It was season one. 1:20:02.680 --> 1:20:06.120 I was so obsessed and I was doing a show 1:20:06.120 --> 1:20:07.840 I was working in New York. I grew up in 1:20:07.880 --> 1:20:10.200 New York, but I was doing a show for like 1:20:10.240 --> 1:20:12.840 five six months in New York TV show and I 1:20:12.920 --> 1:20:15.360 was like, I told my manager. I was like agent, 1:20:15.360 --> 1:20:17.800 I was like, if there's any way that could be, 1:20:18.360 --> 1:20:20.320 just to call, And like two weeks later, he's a 1:20:20.320 --> 1:20:22.479 given audition go in and I was like, oh my, 1:20:22.560 --> 1:20:25.679 and it was my dream come true. 1:20:25.720 --> 1:20:28.720 I couldn't believe I got to do it. 1:20:28.760 --> 1:20:31.680 I was like, it was the greatest it was the 1:20:31.680 --> 1:20:33.719 greatest get of a job I've ever had my left. 1:20:33.600 --> 1:20:37.639 I was like, so you went to Chelsea Peers. Yeah, 1:20:37.680 --> 1:20:39.240 you did it all. You did it all. 1:20:39.439 --> 1:20:44.160 The apartment we shot in overlooking, Yeah, I mean, who 1:20:44.200 --> 1:20:45.240 has that apart. 1:20:45.000 --> 1:20:47.160 This woman, this woman that you play is like this 1:20:47.320 --> 1:20:52.760 boss bitch, stock trading, coffee swilling New York. And I 1:20:52.800 --> 1:20:55.720 love her. When the detectives are like, it's not your 1:20:55.760 --> 1:20:58.519 fall and your character goes yeah, I know, And I 1:20:58.560 --> 1:21:01.680 loved that. I love anybody that throws it back at 1:21:01.680 --> 1:21:06.800 Maloney for sure. But what it was, it's it's an 1:21:06.880 --> 1:21:10.880 intense role. It was an intense scene the cold open. 1:21:11.360 --> 1:21:13.720 And I'll tell you what was fascinating is that we 1:21:13.720 --> 1:21:17.559 were it was the guy playing the guy was was 1:21:18.080 --> 1:21:20.559 very method and really dark and freaked me out. 1:21:21.280 --> 1:21:23.040 And they had like a fake box cutter. 1:21:23.080 --> 1:21:25.160 But it didn't feel great on the neck, like you 1:21:25.160 --> 1:21:27.920 know it like it was like it was a it 1:21:27.960 --> 1:21:31.280 was a really hard scene to shoot in the subway 1:21:31.800 --> 1:21:34.280 car like it was just weird and dark. 1:21:34.800 --> 1:21:39.440 And Dick Wolf came to set, no where. 1:21:39.360 --> 1:21:42.000 To God came to set all of a sudden, was 1:21:42.040 --> 1:21:44.160 standing on the platform because they you know, they owned 1:21:44.200 --> 1:21:45.200 like a platform right now. 1:21:45.200 --> 1:21:48.360 Yeah, we didn't know that they own a platform. 1:21:48.439 --> 1:21:53.479 They owned like a defunct trains station somewhere, like two 1:21:53.520 --> 1:21:56.400 things that aren't a stops anymore for regular people. They 1:21:56.560 --> 1:21:58.720 own those two stops, and they own a train that 1:21:58.800 --> 1:22:01.760 just can go back and forth between the Wow, that's 1:22:01.800 --> 1:22:04.479 how they that's why they can do subway trains. And 1:22:04.560 --> 1:22:07.639 so dick Wolf came down to that platform, and I 1:22:07.680 --> 1:22:11.200 was like stick Wolf and he said, and I don't 1:22:11.200 --> 1:22:11.439 want to. 1:22:11.400 --> 1:22:13.000 Pull him, because like God, if I don't don't want 1:22:13.040 --> 1:22:13.800 Dick Wolf that at me. 1:22:13.880 --> 1:22:18.479 But he said something to the likes of, this is 1:22:19.160 --> 1:22:21.920 the darkest thing we've ever done. 1:22:22.600 --> 1:22:26.080 Yeah. I was like, oh, He's like this is, uh, 1:22:26.120 --> 1:22:28.160 this is And I was like, oh, all right, well 1:22:28.160 --> 1:22:30.800 here we go. All right, take tick four, let's go. 1:22:31.520 --> 1:22:34.960 It was he was like genuinely like Jesus, well, I mean, 1:22:35.920 --> 1:22:38.320 and it's a graph, yes, I was. 1:22:38.400 --> 1:22:41.439 There were no illusions to stuff. Sometimes there's an allusion 1:22:41.479 --> 1:22:44.599 to a crime, but this was like the full time, 1:22:44.880 --> 1:22:47.760 very graphic. And then the horror of everyone watching and 1:22:47.840 --> 1:22:48.559 not doing anything. 1:22:48.560 --> 1:22:49.880 I mean, it's Karen. 1:22:49.960 --> 1:22:52.920 We always do a thing where some of the episodes 1:22:52.960 --> 1:22:55.160 are the most haunting to us or have haunted us 1:22:55.160 --> 1:22:57.880 for years, where we just and this is Kara's number 1:22:57.880 --> 1:22:59.200 one where she just thinks. 1:22:58.960 --> 1:23:01.160 It has always been my mother haunting episode because I 1:23:01.200 --> 1:23:04.160 lived in New York for eleven years and I rode 1:23:04.160 --> 1:23:06.479 the subway multiple times a day, and I remember sometimes 1:23:06.479 --> 1:23:09.200 I would just be zoning out and I would just 1:23:09.280 --> 1:23:12.000 remember that scene and be like, oh my god, like 1:23:12.479 --> 1:23:15.160 and I really like, I fainted on the subway one time, 1:23:15.280 --> 1:23:17.640 and all these people came and helped me, Like a 1:23:17.680 --> 1:23:20.160 woman came off another train to give me an apple, 1:23:20.280 --> 1:23:22.360 Like all kinds of big people helped me. And so 1:23:22.439 --> 1:23:25.320 I like to believe that New York, that this isn't 1:23:25.360 --> 1:23:27.640 like the reality of New York, that people will help you. 1:23:27.840 --> 1:23:31.519 But that's like, that's so haunting about it to me, Like, yeah, 1:23:31.600 --> 1:23:34.439 I've obviously watched five hundred plus episodes of this television show. 1:23:34.479 --> 1:23:37.640 We've seen worse than like a woman, you know, getting assaulted. 1:23:38.439 --> 1:23:41.559 You know, season there was a subway machete thing, and 1:23:41.600 --> 1:23:43.519 that was a lot. Yeah, yeah, that's a lot, But 1:23:43.640 --> 1:23:46.519 like there's been so much, but this one. I think 1:23:46.560 --> 1:23:49.559 it's like that, it's so every day, it's so all 1:23:49.600 --> 1:23:51.760 of us. It was so crowded, like he can't feel 1:23:51.840 --> 1:23:53.840 like there's a safety in a crowd, and he can't 1:23:53.880 --> 1:23:54.680 even have it. 1:23:54.760 --> 1:23:58.320 You can't believe, like there's no possible way that someone 1:23:58.320 --> 1:24:01.880 could be that taken by surprise and that like threatened 1:24:01.920 --> 1:24:03.880 with well, of course you get a knife to your throat, 1:24:04.120 --> 1:24:06.519 You're not gonna do any sad movements. You're just gonna 1:24:06.560 --> 1:24:10.640 stay still, Yeah, and that no one understand. 1:24:10.680 --> 1:24:13.280 Oh, it's horrible, no, And you're like pressed up and 1:24:13.320 --> 1:24:15.240 like we can see your breath. I mean half the 1:24:15.280 --> 1:24:17.400 time on the episodes, we don't even see the attack. 1:24:17.479 --> 1:24:20.800 They just find a victim a body or whatever, you know, 1:24:20.920 --> 1:24:22.519 Like we don't even see it half the time. And 1:24:22.520 --> 1:24:25.360 then this one is like cold open right to it 1:24:25.479 --> 1:24:29.439 like this, it's like it's it's jarring. So you're part 1:24:29.479 --> 1:24:32.519 of a long line of people that have played of 1:24:32.640 --> 1:24:35.439 comedians who have played serious roles on the show, right, So, 1:24:36.240 --> 1:24:38.200 I mean you're you're probably one of the first. But 1:24:38.280 --> 1:24:41.439 later in the episode, in the seasons, it's like Kathy Griffin, 1:24:41.560 --> 1:24:45.080 Robin Williams, Martin shortpob Saget Margaret show like huge comedy 1:24:45.120 --> 1:24:50.240 people that play these serious parts. But what we always 1:24:50.240 --> 1:24:51.960 say that we love about the first like kind of 1:24:52.240 --> 1:24:54.519 twelve seasons of the show is that there was like 1:24:54.560 --> 1:24:56.280 a little bit of levity to it, even though this 1:24:56.400 --> 1:24:59.519 is so dark, Like I do think your character you're acting, 1:24:59.640 --> 1:25:02.559 lets the little bit of like like lightness in like 1:25:02.600 --> 1:25:05.240 when you're talking to the cops and like later you know, like. 1:25:05.280 --> 1:25:08.479 Yeah, well like the fact that Maloney Maloney had had 1:25:08.520 --> 1:25:11.680 a cold and like yeah, yeah, and I got to 1:25:11.680 --> 1:25:15.080 react to like ew you be like ugh, like yeah, 1:25:15.200 --> 1:25:18.200 why are you in my apartment with your so I 1:25:18.240 --> 1:25:20.599 mean that's you that you're like, I'm speaking to your point. 1:25:20.760 --> 1:25:23.400 That's exactly it Like there is some levity, yes, exactly. 1:25:23.400 --> 1:25:26.400 And I think it's like such a genius thing to 1:25:26.560 --> 1:25:29.360 employ because of course, all of these people that I 1:25:29.439 --> 1:25:32.680 just named, including you, are like trained actors who can 1:25:32.760 --> 1:25:35.120 aren't just like doing sketches all the time, you know, 1:25:35.240 --> 1:25:39.240 like can do a myriad of things. But it's it's 1:25:39.320 --> 1:25:42.640 so I'm like, so, I mean maybe because we're also comedians. 1:25:42.680 --> 1:25:45.679 I just love watching comics do their thing because I 1:25:45.720 --> 1:25:49.800 actually I so believed everything that like the pain that 1:25:49.880 --> 1:25:51.640 was happening with you. But then also I was like 1:25:51.720 --> 1:25:54.000 loving when you were kind of having these little lilting 1:25:54.080 --> 1:25:58.280 moments of you know, funny. Well, I think you guys 1:25:58.320 --> 1:26:00.160 are squeaking out. 1:26:00.000 --> 1:26:02.599 Because you guys are both comedians, you like, and I'm 1:26:02.640 --> 1:26:05.600 not trying to like pat the comedian world on the 1:26:05.640 --> 1:26:09.120 back but a little bit. But I am like, one 1:26:09.680 --> 1:26:15.360 comedy can translate to drama because comedy is pain, you know, 1:26:15.439 --> 1:26:18.120 wrapped in a bow and stuck with like a you know, 1:26:18.200 --> 1:26:21.080 a googly eyed face on it. Like that's sort of 1:26:21.080 --> 1:26:24.160 what comedy is. And it doesn't necessarily work in reverse. Right, 1:26:24.200 --> 1:26:27.559 We've seen a lot of examples, Like there's amazing dramatic 1:26:27.600 --> 1:26:30.280 actors that like, you're like, I guess. 1:26:30.160 --> 1:26:33.080 It was funny, Like your voice goes like I think 1:26:33.560 --> 1:26:37.679 I think funny like it's not. It doesn't necessarily translate 1:26:37.720 --> 1:26:38.400 the other way. 1:26:38.479 --> 1:26:40.800 And I think that's something that a lot of people 1:26:40.840 --> 1:26:44.880 don't know, is that most good comedians can really solidly 1:26:45.200 --> 1:26:46.200 do some good drama. 1:26:46.400 --> 1:26:48.960 Yeah, someone recently told me that's a lot of because 1:26:48.960 --> 1:26:51.559 when you're doing comedy, you have to listen and react 1:26:51.600 --> 1:26:53.680 to things on the fly. And so I think it 1:26:54.560 --> 1:26:57.599 like a little more present or able to kind of 1:26:58.200 --> 1:26:58.800 roll with it. 1:26:58.920 --> 1:27:04.280 And I also think it's for me on Mad TV. 1:27:05.200 --> 1:27:07.800 And I wasn't a comedian going and like, I never 1:27:07.840 --> 1:27:08.880 studied the groundlings. 1:27:08.880 --> 1:27:09.760 I never did. 1:27:09.920 --> 1:27:12.360 I had a sketch show with my friends just because 1:27:12.400 --> 1:27:14.680 you know, back then you would do the showcases like 1:27:14.720 --> 1:27:16.840 that was the big thing. You'd get your friends together 1:27:16.840 --> 1:27:19.360 and do a showcase. And back then, casting directors they 1:27:19.360 --> 1:27:21.120 don't do anything anymore. 1:27:21.080 --> 1:27:23.960 But back then, back then they have TikTok. They have 1:27:24.000 --> 1:27:27.320 TikTok the right. Yeah, they're looking at people. 1:27:27.520 --> 1:27:30.559 So they they would show up and they you know, 1:27:30.640 --> 1:27:32.719 if they liked you, they'd send you to their boss 1:27:32.760 --> 1:27:34.400 and you know things. It worked like that. So I 1:27:34.400 --> 1:27:36.280 did a sketch show like that, but I wasn't a 1:27:36.400 --> 1:27:41.599 comedian at all. And uh, I realized quickly when on 1:27:41.640 --> 1:27:43.920 MED to be like really, part of the key is 1:27:43.960 --> 1:27:48.439 not being afraid to look like a dope, look like 1:27:48.640 --> 1:27:52.439 and like look stupid and crazy and like, oh she's 1:27:52.479 --> 1:27:53.160 trying too hard. 1:27:53.200 --> 1:27:54.720 Then you're doing it right, you know. I mean there's 1:27:54.760 --> 1:27:56.040 a lot of that to it. 1:27:56.280 --> 1:28:00.920 That a lot of uh, you know, good looking people 1:28:01.000 --> 1:28:04.880 aren't willing to do understandably understandably, like they've got a 1:28:04.920 --> 1:28:06.599 different thing they have to sell. 1:28:07.000 --> 1:28:10.240 But if you're willing to look stupid, that's a huge 1:28:10.400 --> 1:28:12.920 leg up in the comedy world. Totally. Yeah. 1:28:13.000 --> 1:28:14.240 I don't know if it's a pet pee for you, 1:28:14.240 --> 1:28:16.599 but when celebrities do interviews and they'll be like, oh 1:28:16.640 --> 1:28:19.600 my god, she is the funniest person alive, and it's like, 1:28:19.640 --> 1:28:23.200 there's no fucking way, Like I can't imagine Blake Lively 1:28:23.240 --> 1:28:24.840 is just like crushing it at dinner. 1:28:24.960 --> 1:28:29.160 But wait, I feel like we also need to clarify 1:28:29.200 --> 1:28:31.080 that the reason we know that you're a Law and 1:28:31.160 --> 1:28:33.000 Order fan before we even asked you that in this 1:28:33.080 --> 1:28:36.720 interview is because you sent us a video of you 1:28:36.880 --> 1:28:40.640 and Michael McDonald. Also one of my mad TV obsessions, 1:28:41.320 --> 1:28:44.479 you guys doing this sketch I guess that you did 1:28:44.560 --> 1:28:47.439 for REDTV where you where you're like trying to get 1:28:47.479 --> 1:28:50.400 the attention of the casting directors for Law and Order 1:28:50.439 --> 1:28:53.599 and you're doing all of these characters. Like I took 1:28:53.640 --> 1:28:54.480 the screenshot. 1:28:54.840 --> 1:28:58.559 What I loved the most was like the sexual innuendo Emmy, 1:28:59.240 --> 1:29:02.080 Like that was so good because Melinda is so s 1:29:02.320 --> 1:29:05.960 like they are all throughout franchises on Dexter two, like 1:29:06.000 --> 1:29:07.960 all the science people are always. 1:29:07.640 --> 1:29:10.000 Like saucy medical, saucy medical examiner. 1:29:10.240 --> 1:29:12.680 See, and then they say something they say and then 1:29:12.720 --> 1:29:15.000 they say something at the end that's like, oh, oh 1:29:15.000 --> 1:29:17.920 my god, like jarring, like their belly button was found 1:29:17.920 --> 1:29:20.640 inside their eyeball. Oh my god, oh my god, Like 1:29:20.680 --> 1:29:22.519 they're sort of doing bits and then they say something 1:29:22.600 --> 1:29:25.880 horrible and like something A lot of sexuals to be like, 1:29:25.920 --> 1:29:30.519 oh you found semen where Oh my god. Yeah, yeah, jarring, 1:29:30.520 --> 1:29:33.439 the whole thing, Uh, just total tangent. 1:29:33.520 --> 1:29:37.680 Like another fun fact quote unquote when I did the 1:29:37.760 --> 1:29:41.160 episode is I was dating this guy in LA who 1:29:41.200 --> 1:29:44.120 I kind of knew wasn't into me, but I was like, 1:29:44.280 --> 1:29:48.000 he really should be, Like I couldn't get why he wasn't. 1:29:48.320 --> 1:29:50.760 He was like this, he was like the set photographer 1:29:50.760 --> 1:29:52.599 on Ma TIV. And I was like, I mean, he's 1:29:52.640 --> 1:29:55.759 taking my picture all the time. All he pays attention 1:29:55.800 --> 1:29:59.760 to me. And so we dated like a little bit 1:29:59.800 --> 1:30:01.519 and I went to New York to do this show 1:30:02.040 --> 1:30:04.720 and he broke up with me the night before I 1:30:04.800 --> 1:30:08.639 shot the scene in the apartment or I'm supposhit. And 1:30:08.720 --> 1:30:10.519 so it was one of those things like you get 1:30:10.520 --> 1:30:13.120 stressed out when you have to cry cry, and cue 1:30:13.240 --> 1:30:15.040 is like, you know you can do it, Like it's 1:30:15.080 --> 1:30:17.200 just there's a lot to it, and sometimes you need 1:30:17.240 --> 1:30:20.080 a song in your ear. Sometimes you need glistering. And 1:30:20.120 --> 1:30:21.920 I was able, not that I was like sobbing everything, 1:30:22.080 --> 1:30:24.200 but I was able to do the tears. And they 1:30:24.200 --> 1:30:26.759 actually didn't they picked they picked a take with less tears, 1:30:26.760 --> 1:30:29.400 which I found interesting. But I was able to do 1:30:29.439 --> 1:30:31.320 the tears because I was like, and I just got 1:30:31.400 --> 1:30:32.800 fucking numb blessness. 1:30:34.600 --> 1:30:35.640 I can't relieve it worked out well. 1:30:35.640 --> 1:30:37.120 Whenever I think of that, I think of the Katy 1:30:37.200 --> 1:30:41.080 Perry documentary with Russell Brand texting breaking up their marriage 1:30:41.160 --> 1:30:42.800 right before she was about to perform for like two 1:30:42.880 --> 1:30:45.599 hundred thousand people in Brazil, and you know, you don't 1:30:45.640 --> 1:30:48.000 go tour in South America often, and she's just like 1:30:48.080 --> 1:30:51.840 bawling and having to just go perform. And so when 1:30:51.840 --> 1:30:54.200 I heard night before, I'm like, that's a sociopia, Like 1:30:54.360 --> 1:30:56.200 why are you trying to ruin someone's stuff? 1:30:56.760 --> 1:30:59.800 Yeah, but I'm not sure. I'm not sure he was aware. 1:30:59.880 --> 1:31:01.759 I don't think he I don't think he considered. 1:31:01.920 --> 1:31:04.160 But even over text it's like wait till wait till 1:31:04.200 --> 1:31:06.680 you get back, Like I don't know, yeah, take me 1:31:06.720 --> 1:31:08.280 to coffee view of it all. 1:31:08.880 --> 1:31:12.400 Wait, So, since you've done all the franchises, who are 1:31:12.439 --> 1:31:13.640 your favorite detectives? 1:31:16.840 --> 1:31:18.120 This is why I'm so bad? 1:31:18.680 --> 1:31:23.320 Well, I love Jesse, Yeah, I mean Lenny, Like you know, 1:31:23.560 --> 1:31:26.280 I mean here, I Here's the thing about Chris Maloney 1:31:26.360 --> 1:31:31.639 is he's the nicest human being in the world. Like 1:31:31.920 --> 1:31:34.599 I saw him at a dinner party. I don't know, 1:31:34.720 --> 1:31:37.120 years ago, but like, you know, not as long as 1:31:37.160 --> 1:31:39.479 the show. And I saw him at the dinner party and 1:31:39.560 --> 1:31:40.880 he was like hey, and I was like, I did 1:31:40.880 --> 1:31:42.519 an episode of your show. It was a bad And 1:31:42.600 --> 1:31:44.600 he was like, oh that was you know, because everyone's like, 1:31:44.600 --> 1:31:48.680 oh that was a Maloney was like that was that 1:31:48.760 --> 1:31:50.680 was a hard one to while I was like, yeah, 1:31:50.720 --> 1:31:53.120 yeah it was. You know, yeah, it's hard to And 1:31:54.080 --> 1:31:56.240 the dinner party is going in all night long. 1:31:56.439 --> 1:31:59.040 He can't. It's like hard to describe how nice this is. 1:31:59.080 --> 1:32:02.479 Like when you're a comedian and you're and you know, 1:32:02.560 --> 1:32:04.760 you can kind of act, but like other people don't. 1:32:04.960 --> 1:32:05.800 And he all night. 1:32:05.760 --> 1:32:07.679 Long, he would just refer to us as he would 1:32:07.720 --> 1:32:10.000 refer to me as a peer. Oh he would say, 1:32:10.040 --> 1:32:12.080 you know, like you know when we when we're out 1:32:12.120 --> 1:32:14.200 there doing our thing, and you know when like as 1:32:14.240 --> 1:32:15.080 actors we need to. 1:32:15.080 --> 1:32:16.720 Like he he just. 1:32:16.720 --> 1:32:20.240 Included me in his club, which he didn't need to, like, 1:32:20.280 --> 1:32:22.920 he's Chris Maloney and he did all night and I 1:32:23.360 --> 1:32:26.639 just left there thinking, like, what an incredible person. 1:32:27.160 --> 1:32:30.160 So I think also he respects comedy. And I bet 1:32:30.200 --> 1:32:32.880 you he knew your work and was like, respected you 1:32:32.960 --> 1:32:35.479 a lot because he loves He left a lot under 1:32:35.560 --> 1:32:37.759 SVU and ended up doing comedy for a little while. 1:32:38.560 --> 1:32:41.280 Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, So but I think 1:32:41.320 --> 1:32:44.000 that that really story about him. You know, we we 1:32:44.040 --> 1:32:46.360 get a lot of great stories about Marishka. We don't 1:32:46.360 --> 1:32:49.120 get as many about Maloney, just not because there's anything 1:32:49.240 --> 1:32:50.679 about him, but it's just I think he's a little 1:32:50.720 --> 1:32:54.040 bit more standoffish and everyone has like a you know, 1:32:54.120 --> 1:32:56.639 a story about her being so effusive and lovely or whatever. 1:32:56.680 --> 1:32:59.719 But maybe you don't tell us that tell us the teenicle. 1:33:00.120 --> 1:33:03.559 Eh uh No, I know that she my one of 1:33:03.560 --> 1:33:07.640 my close friends, Krista Crystal Lawrence, uh Bill Lawrence and 1:33:07.680 --> 1:33:08.200 Crysal Lord. 1:33:08.240 --> 1:33:09.160 Today they have a house. 1:33:09.160 --> 1:33:11.479 They have a house in Malibu and Brushka has a 1:33:11.479 --> 1:33:14.880 house in the Hamptons and every and every summer they trade. 1:33:14.960 --> 1:33:15.920 They trade for a month. 1:33:16.040 --> 1:33:20.520 Oh, which is the rich It's the richest ship. I 1:33:20.560 --> 1:33:22.400 like every time I think about it, I'm like, just 1:33:22.439 --> 1:33:27.000 these multi MOLDI millionaires just live in each other's homes 1:33:27.000 --> 1:33:27.519 for a month. 1:33:27.800 --> 1:33:30.680 Yeah, I don't know what about it fascinates me. 1:33:30.880 --> 1:33:33.759 Well, well, because they're still doing apartments swapping like us. 1:33:33.880 --> 1:33:35.120 You know, it's like it's like. 1:33:35.400 --> 1:33:37.360 I Aaron BB like, do they do they have a 1:33:37.400 --> 1:33:39.760 closet you can't go in an airbby. 1:33:39.520 --> 1:33:43.320 There's a management closet that says do not enter enter 1:33:43.640 --> 1:33:45.880 are the rules like take out the garbage before you? Like, 1:33:45.960 --> 1:33:47.720 I don't know how it were. If you guys could 1:33:48.280 --> 1:33:50.800 can mash and Peter hermit, that would be great. 1:33:51.800 --> 1:33:54.000 And let's be honest, they both they both have staff, 1:33:54.080 --> 1:33:57.680 right does the staff traveling with does it travel or 1:33:57.680 --> 1:33:59.040 do they stay in place? 1:33:59.200 --> 1:34:01.400 I don't know. I would if you've got cook you like, 1:34:01.520 --> 1:34:03.519 I would bet that they stay in place because they 1:34:03.520 --> 1:34:08.360 know the property. But then like personal assistance go with Okay, 1:34:08.479 --> 1:34:12.000 That's why I would like the chef's stay because they 1:34:12.040 --> 1:34:13.960 know the kitchen and they know where to source their 1:34:14.160 --> 1:34:18.200 their foods and their vegetables and their organic farmers markets 1:34:18.240 --> 1:34:19.040 and stuff in the area. 1:34:19.160 --> 1:34:21.680 And then is it like below deck where they get 1:34:21.720 --> 1:34:26.640 a list of their likes and just like banguage. 1:34:25.439 --> 1:34:29.559 Do they have to check that? Oh below deck, Man Deck. 1:34:29.760 --> 1:34:34.000 I just did a giant like. It took me a 1:34:34.040 --> 1:34:35.479 month and a half, which isn't that long. 1:34:35.520 --> 1:34:38.040 Honestly, I did a giant rewatch of the Real Housewives 1:34:38.040 --> 1:34:40.080 of Orange County and I just finished this week. I 1:34:40.120 --> 1:34:42.200 feel free seventeen eighteen seasons? 1:34:42.920 --> 1:34:45.200 Can I can? I? Okay, go ahead, because I have 1:34:45.280 --> 1:34:47.280 a real serious question as it was brutal. 1:34:47.360 --> 1:34:50.000 It was brutal, It wasn't even joy at the They 1:34:50.040 --> 1:34:52.120 are the most vile people I've ever seen in my life. 1:34:52.160 --> 1:34:53.320 But what is the question. 1:34:54.600 --> 1:34:57.439 That so I've never I'd never seen a Real Housewives 1:34:57.479 --> 1:35:00.400 episode in my life. My friend Lisa Shannon is the 1:35:00.560 --> 1:35:02.639 executive producer of New York. 1:35:02.760 --> 1:35:08.400 And so Ling. Oh, okay, she's she's brilliant. 1:35:09.200 --> 1:35:14.240 She single handedly got watch your Chops the clothing design. Yeah, 1:35:14.280 --> 1:35:16.240 she like single handedly got her to say. 1:35:18.240 --> 1:35:18.719 She's amazing. 1:35:18.800 --> 1:35:22.160 But uh so, during pandemic, I'd never seen an episode 1:35:22.160 --> 1:35:24.360 of any I was like, Lisa weird chatting. 1:35:24.400 --> 1:35:24.840 She's in my book. 1:35:24.840 --> 1:35:27.160 We're at a book club and we're chatting, and she's like, 1:35:27.240 --> 1:35:28.800 you've never seen And I'm like, I love reality, but 1:35:28.880 --> 1:35:29.920 just I don't know if that's for me. She's like, 1:35:29.960 --> 1:35:33.160 I'm going to send you one episode of of of 1:35:33.320 --> 1:35:36.960 Housewives of New York. It's not aired yet. You can't 1:35:37.000 --> 1:35:37.759 show it to anyone. 1:35:38.360 --> 1:35:40.479 You just have to watch it. And it was season 1:35:40.520 --> 1:35:42.559 Oh god, I'm gonna get the season eleven. It's okay, 1:35:42.760 --> 1:35:43.679 just tell us what happens. 1:35:43.720 --> 1:35:47.800 Well know, episode four, episode four, it's when Leah gets 1:35:47.880 --> 1:35:51.640 naked and runs around the pool with That was the 1:35:51.720 --> 1:35:56.720 first and I was like, and I Then I was like, 1:35:56.800 --> 1:36:00.639 and now I'm so I started New York beginning because 1:36:00.640 --> 1:36:02.880 I didn't want to. I did the same thing with 1:36:02.960 --> 1:36:04.760 vander Pump. I didn't even know about the show until 1:36:04.760 --> 1:36:07.000 I heard scandabal. I said, no one tell me anything. 1:36:07.240 --> 1:36:11.400 I binge watched that from the beginning. Uh so, also, 1:36:11.640 --> 1:36:15.400 here's here's my quest, Atlanta. I did, and by the end, 1:36:15.479 --> 1:36:19.560 I felt like I had burst three horrible babs. Like 1:36:19.800 --> 1:36:23.200 I felt, I felt exhausted and with very little to show. Yeah, 1:36:23.320 --> 1:36:24.040 like I felt. 1:36:25.160 --> 1:36:28.760 People crazy because you're just hearing them fight all day 1:36:28.840 --> 1:36:30.800 for eight out. You're just they're fighting, their fighting, And 1:36:30.880 --> 1:36:32.040 so then I was out in the world and I 1:36:32.120 --> 1:36:33.560 was just like, shut up. And then I was like, 1:36:33.640 --> 1:36:38.120 what the fuck? Like it infiltrated my being in a 1:36:38.320 --> 1:36:41.719 very I had to leave Atlanta. I actually, I actually 1:36:41.840 --> 1:36:43.519 was a big fan of Atlanta at the beginning, and 1:36:43.600 --> 1:36:46.760 I left about halfway through and said, it's too much. 1:36:46.880 --> 1:36:49.519 It's just like I don't mind a good fight once 1:36:49.560 --> 1:36:51.080 in a while, but it felt like it was all 1:36:51.200 --> 1:36:53.280 fighting and screaming, and I was like, I gotta go. 1:36:53.439 --> 1:36:56.080 And then I came back and I revisited. I came back. 1:36:56.360 --> 1:36:58.880 I came back and joined back on like with with 1:36:59.080 --> 1:37:02.479 like Phaedra, like a later Porscha seasons and stuff like that. 1:37:02.680 --> 1:37:04.320 But I needed a break. 1:37:05.040 --> 1:37:08.720 You also do so much animation. Do you ever get 1:37:08.840 --> 1:37:12.920 like toys or like drawings of the characters you do? 1:37:13.360 --> 1:37:15.040 Like are the figures? 1:37:15.240 --> 1:37:17.840 Let's talk. Let's talk about that for a second, because 1:37:17.880 --> 1:37:18.759 that's a real issue. 1:37:19.120 --> 1:37:22.400 I've done a lot of shows, and it began years 1:37:22.400 --> 1:37:24.479 ago with Buzz light Year of Star Command, which is 1:37:24.520 --> 1:37:26.519 like a buzz light Year spin off, and it's buzz 1:37:26.600 --> 1:37:29.799 Lightyer and Princess Mironova, who like left being a princess 1:37:29.920 --> 1:37:33.720 to fight in the Space Wars, and they came out 1:37:33.720 --> 1:37:36.320 with the action figures for all the characters except Princess 1:37:36.720 --> 1:37:37.760 no Miranva and she. 1:37:37.920 --> 1:37:39.360 Was really like the second in command. 1:37:39.880 --> 1:37:44.280 And then it happened again and again and every time, 1:37:44.400 --> 1:37:46.920 and I was like, this is so horrible. And I 1:37:46.960 --> 1:37:49.800 remember speaking with someone at some event, you know, some 1:37:50.240 --> 1:37:54.040 con somewhere, and I spoke with the guy who was 1:37:54.160 --> 1:37:56.200 like in charge of you know, somewhat in charge of 1:37:56.280 --> 1:37:58.400 the things. I'm like, can I just be honest, dude, 1:37:58.439 --> 1:38:02.360 it feels very like very anti female power, Like it 1:38:02.439 --> 1:38:05.920 feels like you only. And his response was, the little 1:38:05.960 --> 1:38:08.760 girls don't play with tiny action figures like that. They 1:38:08.920 --> 1:38:11.240 just don't. And that's why we don't do it, because 1:38:11.240 --> 1:38:14.360 they don't buy it. And I'm I get I'm like, 1:38:14.840 --> 1:38:16.360 like that one haunts me because it's. 1:38:16.160 --> 1:38:19.479 Also not true because they make them now and now 1:38:19.680 --> 1:38:22.320 kids play with them all the time, you know exactly, 1:38:22.400 --> 1:38:24.400 So I just think they hadn't been introduced. 1:38:24.680 --> 1:38:27.240 Like the guy was going off these numbers and it 1:38:27.320 --> 1:38:29.200 was the chicken or the egg, and it was definitely 1:38:29.400 --> 1:38:31.040 the chicken he was looking at like yeah. 1:38:31.200 --> 1:38:33.040 He was like, no, no one likes the chicken. I'm like, 1:38:33.080 --> 1:38:34.680 but you haven't given them the egg, And it's a 1:38:34.720 --> 1:38:37.000 horrible no. It makes sense. It's like if you're not 1:38:37.160 --> 1:38:40.040 giving the girls anything that's going they're going to identify 1:38:40.160 --> 1:38:43.360 with or representation of any kind, you know, then like 1:38:43.560 --> 1:38:45.320 they're like, oh, yeah, I guess gi Jo's are for 1:38:45.400 --> 1:38:47.720 boys and that's it. Like that whole toy cat. 1:38:47.960 --> 1:38:52.439 Was so such like like horrible old fashioned thinking and 1:38:52.479 --> 1:38:53.880 I remember thinking like can that be true? 1:38:53.920 --> 1:38:56.840 And now like a Mowana thing and everyone all the 1:38:56.880 --> 1:38:59.600 girls buy them. So he was wrong. But that's the 1:38:59.680 --> 1:39:00.559 answer question is. 1:39:00.880 --> 1:39:03.040 There's not been a lot, Like I have a couple 1:39:03.080 --> 1:39:05.600 of figures from like you know, like Tim Possible there 1:39:05.680 --> 1:39:06.320 was like a you know. 1:39:07.840 --> 1:39:09.880 What a happy meal that had she go in it 1:39:10.000 --> 1:39:11.639 for a little bit, and so I have a few 1:39:11.640 --> 1:39:11.960 of those. 1:39:12.160 --> 1:39:17.200 But but regardless, I've had amazing experiences with animation, Like 1:39:17.280 --> 1:39:19.639 I I've loved so many of the shows I've done. 1:39:19.760 --> 1:39:21.800 Yeah, you've done like a lot of Family Guys too, right, 1:39:21.840 --> 1:39:23.200 I feel like I always see your name in the 1:39:23.400 --> 1:39:26.360 credits for Family Guy. I'm a BoJack girl. That's like 1:39:26.600 --> 1:39:29.400 that was okay, Oh my god, Okay, I have to again, 1:39:29.439 --> 1:39:32.160 I'm taking up too much. No, this is okay. I 1:39:32.520 --> 1:39:33.759 have two stories. I have two stories. 1:39:33.760 --> 1:39:36.160 Okay, first I'll tell the BoJack Horseman story, which is 1:39:36.200 --> 1:39:38.800 not really that much story. But they said, hey, Nicole, 1:39:38.840 --> 1:39:40.719 they're doing this new show called BoJack Horseman. 1:39:41.200 --> 1:39:44.160 Uh, what's not Lisa Kudro, But what's the other woman 1:39:44.200 --> 1:39:47.760 who's the the main woman in it? Alison Amy Sedaris 1:39:48.120 --> 1:39:52.160 or Alison No, maybe it was She's pretty fairline, but 1:39:52.520 --> 1:39:55.280 Lisa Kudro is in season two, she's an owl for 1:39:55.360 --> 1:39:57.160 a few episodes. It was the first scene. It was 1:39:57.200 --> 1:39:59.280 the first episode, and it was the main female. Forget 1:39:59.439 --> 1:39:59.840 if it was. 1:40:00.160 --> 1:40:03.360 Uh, I forget which part it was any or the 1:40:03.520 --> 1:40:06.120 part Okay anyway, So they said they're not they're not 1:40:06.160 --> 1:40:07.960 able to make the table ree Can you read for them, 1:40:07.960 --> 1:40:09.600 which I've done at other things, like you just go 1:40:09.640 --> 1:40:11.400 to a table read and you read their part. And 1:40:11.680 --> 1:40:13.880 we did the reading and I remember walking out and 1:40:13.920 --> 1:40:16.320 I was walking it with like a friend of mine 1:40:16.320 --> 1:40:17.959 who was writing, and I said. 1:40:18.080 --> 1:40:19.400 What the fuck. 1:40:21.320 --> 1:40:25.639 Are they out of their minds? This is the stupidest thing. 1:40:26.000 --> 1:40:30.240 I have ever. I was so judgmentle next thing, I know, 1:40:30.640 --> 1:40:33.960 the larger following huge it. I was like, and I'm 1:40:34.240 --> 1:40:37.000 that's always for me. I never can guess what's gonna 1:40:37.160 --> 1:40:38.400 like make it and be good. I can. 1:40:38.600 --> 1:40:41.040 I have zero radar for that. So that was my 1:40:41.360 --> 1:40:44.400 dumb BoJack Risman. But here's my Family Guy story. 1:40:44.840 --> 1:40:47.919 So what year is it? Two thousand? 1:40:48.920 --> 1:40:52.160 Anyway, it's the year before Family Guy and Future I'm 1:40:52.160 --> 1:40:53.360 gonna come on the air because they came on the 1:40:53.400 --> 1:40:53.960 air at the same. 1:40:53.840 --> 1:40:58.200 So they both came on I think in like ninety eight, honestly, no, no, okay, okay, yeah, 1:40:58.200 --> 1:41:01.840 because I remember watching them my freshmen year college. Okay, 1:41:02.200 --> 1:41:03.040 so it's ninety eight. 1:41:03.479 --> 1:41:07.080 That super Bowl was in Miami that year, and so 1:41:07.600 --> 1:41:09.960 Fox back in the day had so much money. I mean, 1:41:10.680 --> 1:41:13.400 they spent money on us, like they would give you 1:41:13.479 --> 1:41:16.320 per dms of like five hundred. It was crazy, like 1:41:16.400 --> 1:41:19.679 if they just ORed money into actors, flew us everywhere. 1:41:19.920 --> 1:41:22.640 So there's a hell of us at the at the 1:41:23.200 --> 1:41:26.599 at the super Bowl in Miami that year, and stuff 1:41:26.680 --> 1:41:28.360 was happening, and we're supposed to get on the little chart, 1:41:28.400 --> 1:41:30.080 our little Fox charter bus to take us to the 1:41:30.160 --> 1:41:34.520 next event, and I got there early and Seth McFarlane 1:41:34.600 --> 1:41:37.200 was there early, who I obviously didn't know who it was. 1:41:37.800 --> 1:41:40.160 And on the Fox little bus, the little rent to 1:41:40.200 --> 1:41:42.400 bus they were doing, they had a thing running of 1:41:42.640 --> 1:41:44.559 like they're for the upfronts, like the clips of all 1:41:44.600 --> 1:41:46.720 the shows, clips of all the shows, like selling it, 1:41:47.560 --> 1:41:49.360 and so that was on loop and we sat there 1:41:49.400 --> 1:41:52.240 for like twenty minutes watching the five minute thing four 1:41:52.280 --> 1:41:56.120 times in a row that year. Earlier that year, I 1:41:56.240 --> 1:41:59.719 had been cast as the lead in Futurama the Cyclopes woman, 1:42:00.280 --> 1:42:01.479 not the lead, but you know, the lead. 1:42:01.520 --> 1:42:03.080 Fuh. 1:42:03.880 --> 1:42:07.599 I recorded an episode and they fired me and they're 1:42:07.640 --> 1:42:09.760 like it's not the voice isn't working or not. I 1:42:09.840 --> 1:42:13.880 was like, okay, horrible, Okay. Then they recorded a couple 1:42:13.920 --> 1:42:15.880 of episodes they called me back. I said, we don't 1:42:15.920 --> 1:42:18.800 know what we were thinking. We've tried a million other voice. 1:42:18.880 --> 1:42:22.920 Nothing's as good as you. Please we beg you know, 1:42:22.960 --> 1:42:24.960 blah blah blah. And I was like, okay, okay, loo, 1:42:25.000 --> 1:42:27.439 come back. So we came back, recorded those episodes that 1:42:27.520 --> 1:42:33.160 they then they fired me again. I was obviously like 1:42:33.640 --> 1:42:38.200 really sad, heart broken, but like angry, like why would you. 1:42:38.520 --> 1:42:40.479 That's messing with someone's head. Like, if you didn't want me, 1:42:40.560 --> 1:42:41.080 don't use me. 1:42:41.720 --> 1:42:43.840 So we're watching the clips and both of us, you know, 1:42:43.960 --> 1:42:46.240 I introduced each other watching it and the future. 1:42:46.360 --> 1:42:49.040 It's just just a long story. The Futurama clips were like. 1:42:49.360 --> 1:42:51.640 Ten to one time, like Future Ama Da Da Da da, 1:42:51.680 --> 1:42:54.240 and they were giving family to like ten seconds, and 1:42:54.400 --> 1:42:55.840 he goes, that's my show, and I'm like, oh, and 1:42:55.960 --> 1:42:59.439 I go I think, goes, I hate Matt Greening, and 1:42:59.520 --> 1:42:59.840 I was like. 1:42:59.880 --> 1:43:02.040 I hate them too, Hi, what's your name? 1:43:02.320 --> 1:43:04.320 And we introduced ourselves and sat next to each other 1:43:04.520 --> 1:43:06.920 on that bus, just ripping into Futurama, which is of 1:43:06.960 --> 1:43:09.639 course an amazing show and great and of course Matt 1:43:09.720 --> 1:43:10.879 magrig is brilliant. 1:43:11.160 --> 1:43:13.519 We don't hate him, but like, we were so angry 1:43:13.640 --> 1:43:14.320 and bitter. 1:43:14.160 --> 1:43:17.240 That day on that bus, and we became besties and 1:43:17.439 --> 1:43:19.280 like hung out all the time after that. 1:43:19.479 --> 1:43:23.240 Just our love our hate of Futurama. Love it. I 1:43:23.360 --> 1:43:27.400 love when hatred brings people together. Yeah, yeah, that is 1:43:27.760 --> 1:43:30.960 such a funny stories. I can't believe they jerked you 1:43:31.000 --> 1:43:31.600 around like that. 1:43:31.840 --> 1:43:34.720 I know, I guess I can, but yeah, that was 1:43:34.760 --> 1:43:36.439 myly the only job I've ever been fired from. 1:43:36.560 --> 1:43:38.560 And it's hard because like that literally is like a 1:43:38.640 --> 1:43:41.880 lake house. I couldn't I know. Oh my god, that's 1:43:41.920 --> 1:43:44.000 like that was a big job to none. It's still 1:43:44.040 --> 1:43:46.360 the only thing playing on Comedy Central. And by the way, 1:43:46.439 --> 1:43:48.160 I just really quickly googled it. It was the very 1:43:48.200 --> 1:43:50.439 beginning of ninety nine, not ninety eight, but I was close. 1:43:50.760 --> 1:43:54.200 Oh okay, great, just for That's what's tough about the bit, 1:43:54.360 --> 1:43:56.600 Like when you're testing and you have to sign for 1:43:56.800 --> 1:43:59.439 money that you might make and you sure just like 1:43:59.560 --> 1:44:03.640 really play off faring and then it's uh that they 1:44:03.720 --> 1:44:04.559 really like to do that. 1:44:05.439 --> 1:44:07.400 And you're hoping, like maybe this is the one show 1:44:07.439 --> 1:44:10.160 Matt does and it's not going to be funny, and 1:44:10.240 --> 1:44:11.840 of course it's brilliant and funny. 1:44:11.560 --> 1:44:14.760 And oh my god, wait, I want to go back 1:44:14.960 --> 1:44:19.800 to I'm from Skokye next to instance So Illinois. 1:44:20.640 --> 1:44:26.360 That's where the van is from, Skooky from TV from Illinois. 1:44:27.520 --> 1:44:31.040 That's yes, she literally skoky that's where the mall is 1:44:31.120 --> 1:44:33.160 and Skooky Illinois. Oh my god. 1:44:33.400 --> 1:44:36.519 I just love everyone that goes to Northwest. Lisa somehow 1:44:36.840 --> 1:44:39.559 escaped any kind of Midwest accent at all. 1:44:39.520 --> 1:44:41.360 Like I don't thinks I'm from New York. I think 1:44:41.400 --> 1:44:43.200 I would watch The Nanny too much as a kid 1:44:43.320 --> 1:44:43.840 or something like. 1:44:43.880 --> 1:44:44.160 I don't. 1:44:44.240 --> 1:44:46.960 And I have zero New York accent and totally picked 1:44:47.000 --> 1:44:49.840 up on the Midwestern And that's much more what I 1:44:49.960 --> 1:44:51.920 sound like in Midwestern than New York. 1:44:51.960 --> 1:44:53.080 I never had the New York accent. 1:44:53.200 --> 1:44:56.320 But Northwestern has churned out like some of the best 1:44:56.360 --> 1:44:58.960 comedy people ever and just performers. 1:44:59.040 --> 1:45:01.719 Yeah it's a good school. Yeah, it's a great school. 1:45:01.760 --> 1:45:03.600 I did not. I was not successful there. I was 1:45:03.680 --> 1:45:04.320 not popular. 1:45:04.520 --> 1:45:06.640 I was not casting a lot of stuff like I 1:45:06.680 --> 1:45:08.000 would just you know, back then, it was like the 1:45:08.040 --> 1:45:10.000 cast list was on the wall like you see in movies. 1:45:10.280 --> 1:45:12.120 It really was like now, I'm sure they get emails, 1:45:12.160 --> 1:45:14.200 but like back then, everyone looked at the wall to 1:45:14.240 --> 1:45:15.640 get in the and. 1:45:15.680 --> 1:45:17.519 Then do they try to like do they try to 1:45:17.600 --> 1:45:19.280 like hit you up to come back and like talk 1:45:19.479 --> 1:45:21.880 to the school and like you know, be involved, And 1:45:21.920 --> 1:45:23.880 you're like, yeah, you guys. It wasn't actually that great 1:45:24.240 --> 1:45:28.040 for me, but I had to bet, like you know why, 1:45:28.120 --> 1:45:28.479 I love it. 1:45:28.800 --> 1:45:31.120 I really had the best fucking time, And then I 1:45:31.200 --> 1:45:33.560 had to make my own things, Like I worked with 1:45:33.640 --> 1:45:36.160 the student I like, I was like, I'll direct apply it, 1:45:36.280 --> 1:45:38.360 like I had to make my own reality because I 1:45:38.439 --> 1:45:42.280 wasn't popular and getting the parts. But it totally trained 1:45:42.320 --> 1:45:44.439 me for LA. Like when people come out and they're 1:45:44.479 --> 1:45:46.960 like they're the star of their musical and wherever town 1:45:47.120 --> 1:45:48.600 and they come out to LA and it's hard, I'm like, 1:45:49.000 --> 1:45:50.840 oh shit, no is always the answer. 1:45:51.000 --> 1:45:52.559 Yeah, I mean when you get a yes, I mean 1:45:52.600 --> 1:45:56.120 I already knew that coming out that is so good. 1:45:56.360 --> 1:45:58.600 That's like really great. I feel like for me that 1:45:58.760 --> 1:46:02.000 was commercial commercial auditions. I would just do a million 1:46:02.040 --> 1:46:03.760 commercial auditions and go, well, I'm never going to get 1:46:03.760 --> 1:46:05.920 any of this and then just move on with my day. 1:46:05.920 --> 1:46:09.400 And it really helped me set the mindset of forgetting 1:46:09.400 --> 1:46:12.479 about it. As soon as you audition, can I speak 1:46:12.520 --> 1:46:12.680 to that? 1:46:12.800 --> 1:46:15.439 So I I'm like that with audition auditions, like I 1:46:15.520 --> 1:46:17.280 do it and then I forget. People like or my 1:46:17.400 --> 1:46:19.240 Maner's like that audition for what, I'm like, what was that? 1:46:19.400 --> 1:46:21.160 I'd like, I don't even remember I did it. A 1:46:21.240 --> 1:46:26.200 Commercial auditions messed with my head so badly because it 1:46:26.320 --> 1:46:28.800 was like you get one second to be like this 1:46:28.960 --> 1:46:31.000 burger's juicier than I thought that's not real. Yeah, but 1:46:31.120 --> 1:46:33.360 like I was like, I was like, let's come here again, 1:46:33.680 --> 1:46:35.320 and that's the one line. And I would get in 1:46:35.360 --> 1:46:38.840 the car after it and put my rearview mirror and 1:46:38.960 --> 1:46:40.960 do the line a hundred times and think like, how 1:46:41.000 --> 1:46:42.040 could I have done that better? 1:46:42.240 --> 1:46:42.840 Like it messed? 1:46:43.040 --> 1:46:43.160 Uh? 1:46:43.760 --> 1:46:45.360 Or I was going in all the time in New 1:46:45.439 --> 1:46:47.920 York for commercial auditions, and then like Deborah Wilson from 1:46:47.960 --> 1:46:49.800 Mad TV would be there. I'd be like, I think 1:46:49.880 --> 1:46:52.840 she's getting this, you know, like yeah, Like or I'd 1:46:52.880 --> 1:46:54.760 be like with six girls from Orange is the New Black, 1:46:54.800 --> 1:46:56.439 and be like, why are we here? Why are the 1:46:56.520 --> 1:46:57.200 rest of us here? 1:46:57.800 --> 1:47:00.840 Like that, Yeah, the waiting room, But don't you kind 1:47:00.880 --> 1:47:02.559 of miss but don't you kind of miss it now 1:47:02.560 --> 1:47:03.400 that we don't get them? 1:47:03.479 --> 1:47:03.679 Yeah? 1:47:04.080 --> 1:47:06.360 I made I made, I made people. I only got 1:47:06.479 --> 1:47:09.120 a snip it. I truly got maybe a year. I 1:47:09.200 --> 1:47:11.719 got maybe a year of impersonal auditions in my career, 1:47:11.960 --> 1:47:14.320 like in New York running around, so you would be. 1:47:14.320 --> 1:47:16.280 A little longer, but you were still in like this 1:47:16.439 --> 1:47:20.479 is horrible stage. No, I love it. I love celeb stuff. 1:47:20.520 --> 1:47:22.720 I love Hollywood, Like it's why I wanted to do 1:47:22.880 --> 1:47:27.360 everything so I loved seeing famous people in the rooms 1:47:27.560 --> 1:47:30.160 or running around, and I felt so cool going to 1:47:30.240 --> 1:47:32.400 my acting coach and walking to the audition, like I 1:47:32.560 --> 1:47:33.679 romanticized so much. 1:47:33.760 --> 1:47:35.320 So I really yeah, me too. 1:47:35.360 --> 1:47:38.160 I loved it, and I'm like it was so much fun. 1:47:38.200 --> 1:47:39.840 I met all my good friends in those rooms and 1:47:40.080 --> 1:47:41.120 now I don't see them. 1:47:41.040 --> 1:47:43.679 And yeah, probably my big embarrassing one was I knew 1:47:43.720 --> 1:47:45.680 I was bombing. I knew it wasn't going good. So 1:47:45.720 --> 1:47:46.479 I go cold, we just. 1:47:46.560 --> 1:47:49.760 Please stop this, Like, I just this is bad. They're like, no, finish, shit, 1:47:49.800 --> 1:47:53.479 it's fine. I go okay, but I just this isn't 1:47:53.560 --> 1:47:54.120 going well. 1:47:54.240 --> 1:47:56.120 And then I walked out and Lena Hall was going 1:47:56.160 --> 1:47:58.800 in after me, and I was like, okay, cool, but 1:48:00.080 --> 1:48:03.160 is your little uh silver lining. I love that you 1:48:03.240 --> 1:48:05.720 called yourself out of like this is not We're not 1:48:05.880 --> 1:48:08.920 going anywhere. I'm embarrassed, like I don't want to I 1:48:08.960 --> 1:48:10.640 don't want to continue. You don't want this. 1:48:10.840 --> 1:48:12.960 I don't want this, Like why are we pretending? Yeah, 1:48:13.439 --> 1:48:15.080 I'm good enough, But I guess that's how you learn 1:48:15.680 --> 1:48:16.599 is not doing well. 1:48:16.640 --> 1:48:18.439 I love that you did that. Yeah for all this, 1:48:19.000 --> 1:48:22.160 Uh thanks, any last minute tidbits from your time on 1:48:22.320 --> 1:48:25.360 SVU twenty four years right, I got so I got 1:48:25.479 --> 1:48:26.679 so lost on the SVU. 1:48:28.280 --> 1:48:30.960 I would just say, like my so the takeaways was 1:48:31.040 --> 1:48:35.080 the dick wolf moment washd just really okay, here's here's 1:48:35.240 --> 1:48:38.360 here's the story and it's doesn't baby. So we're shooting 1:48:38.439 --> 1:48:40.360 the thing and there now they're shooting through the window, 1:48:40.479 --> 1:48:43.200 right reverse shots. So yeah, it's my face against the 1:48:43.280 --> 1:48:46.200 little subway haunting. Yes, hunting. 1:48:46.360 --> 1:48:48.600 And the director had to call me over and he 1:48:48.680 --> 1:48:50.120 did it privately, which was really kind. 1:48:50.200 --> 1:48:53.400 He's like, hey, he goes, can you not open your 1:48:53.479 --> 1:48:59.720 eyes so wide when you're getting attacked? Attacked? Can you 1:48:59.840 --> 1:49:02.080 not when your eyes so what? It kind of comes 1:49:02.120 --> 1:49:03.120 across funny. 1:49:06.320 --> 1:49:07.120 Like I was like that. 1:49:07.320 --> 1:49:09.280 I was like, I say, okay, okay. He's like, it's 1:49:09.320 --> 1:49:11.639 a little loose sill ball when your eyes are really wide. 1:49:13.320 --> 1:49:17.960 And I mean that's the weirdest and best and humiliating 1:49:18.120 --> 1:49:18.920 note of all time. 1:49:19.000 --> 1:49:21.600 And I loved it. I loved it. I did not 1:49:21.760 --> 1:49:25.519 open as much. That is so funny, because yeah, I 1:49:25.640 --> 1:49:27.720 think of you as like doing these characters with like 1:49:27.840 --> 1:49:30.400 big like you know, yes, your eyes are a big 1:49:30.439 --> 1:49:31.639 part of your comedy persona. 1:49:31.680 --> 1:49:32.040 And I love that. 1:49:32.120 --> 1:49:33.920 He's like, we need to tone that down. We don't. 1:49:34.040 --> 1:49:35.880 It's not about that, It's not about the eyes today. 1:49:35.960 --> 1:49:39.960 Yes, what wait, is there anything that's coming out soon 1:49:40.160 --> 1:49:41.719 that you would want people to know about? 1:49:41.880 --> 1:49:42.080 Yeah? 1:49:42.240 --> 1:49:48.200 Projects, Sex Lives of College Girls. Oh, I small a 1:49:48.360 --> 1:49:52.160 small part in two episodes. Uh, but I love that part. 1:49:52.240 --> 1:49:54.840 I love that character, and I love that show. I 1:49:54.920 --> 1:49:58.000 think the girls are so like I just find them 1:49:58.080 --> 1:50:00.280 so charming on screen. I think it's such a a 1:50:00.439 --> 1:50:03.760 really cute and lovely show. So I always promote it. 1:50:03.880 --> 1:50:08.120 Oh, amazing, Great, it's on Max Max ex Slice of 1:50:08.160 --> 1:50:10.879 College Girls on Max. Amazing. 1:50:10.920 --> 1:50:15.080 Timothy Shallomey's sister is I play the mother. She's the lead, 1:50:15.080 --> 1:50:16.200 and I play the mother to hers. 1:50:16.360 --> 1:50:20.000 She's delight Ooh I didn't even know Timothy Shalomey had 1:50:20.040 --> 1:50:22.439 a sister in the biz. That's fun. Have a great 1:50:22.479 --> 1:50:24.960 rest of your day. We so appreciate you taking the time. 1:50:25.040 --> 1:50:25.639 This was the best. 1:50:25.720 --> 1:50:27.439 This has been a bless I knew it was going 1:50:27.520 --> 1:50:29.120 to be super fun. I was so excited about it. 1:50:29.120 --> 1:50:35.679 I knew and it was as good as I wanted it. Wow, 1:50:36.280 --> 1:50:38.519 ninety minutes. We had to cap that at ninety minutes. 1:50:38.520 --> 1:50:41.120 And we truly could have talked to her for longer. 1:50:41.560 --> 1:50:44.760 For so much longer. But also she just likes what 1:50:44.880 --> 1:50:49.960 we like. Yeah, so much matching interests. That's nice, so 1:50:50.120 --> 1:50:53.000 like we like. I'd been thinking ever since we talked 1:50:53.000 --> 1:50:54.960 to her about how she's like. And I don't know 1:50:54.960 --> 1:50:56.960 if Casey kept this in the interview or not, but 1:50:57.040 --> 1:50:58.920 how she was like, I don't think my kids like me, 1:50:59.080 --> 1:51:01.280 and I was like, oh no, oh, is that my future? 1:51:02.080 --> 1:51:05.200 My kids were gonna like me? I mean, she's obviously 1:51:05.240 --> 1:51:06.519 being funny about it. She's like, I mean they like 1:51:06.560 --> 1:51:09.200 when I buy them sushi, but like they don't like me. 1:51:09.320 --> 1:51:12.639 I was like, oh no, but I've been Nicole Sullivan's 1:51:12.760 --> 1:51:14.880 words have been ringing in my ears. And I ran 1:51:14.960 --> 1:51:17.160 into like a mutual that we have and I was like, 1:51:17.320 --> 1:51:19.439 I got to talk to Nicole Sullivan and she was like, 1:51:19.840 --> 1:51:21.479 isn't she the best? And I was like, yes, she 1:51:21.640 --> 1:51:23.920 was truly the best. I love talking to her. We 1:51:24.000 --> 1:51:28.080 were like counseling her on Housewives, but Housewives is coming back. 1:51:28.320 --> 1:51:30.760 We have salt. I'm just like, so on the edge 1:51:30.760 --> 1:51:35.000 of my seat for more epic entertainment. I think while 1:51:35.000 --> 1:51:36.760 you're waiting, you got to get into a secret lives 1:51:36.760 --> 1:51:39.599 and Mormon wives. I know, but I know you're holding back, Charmed. 1:51:39.640 --> 1:51:41.280 I am holding back because I know I'm just gonna 1:51:41.280 --> 1:51:44.640 be upset by it's religion and chauvinism. Like it's just 1:51:44.840 --> 1:51:48.599 two things that rilly me in a way that I like, can't. 1:51:48.680 --> 1:51:51.040 I know, I'm gonna see this young younger because. 1:51:52.320 --> 1:51:54.760 I can't. But I just think you might like how 1:51:54.800 --> 1:51:57.280 it's not all of them following it. You know, like 1:51:57.439 --> 1:51:59.240 half of them are kind of like what. Half of 1:51:59.280 --> 1:52:01.720 them are like we drink, you know, half of them 1:52:01.760 --> 1:52:03.120 are like we do. I think the other half are 1:52:03.200 --> 1:52:06.400 like cheersing with cokes and wine glasses. I do want 1:52:06.439 --> 1:52:07.920 to try all the Mormon drinks. 1:52:07.960 --> 1:52:10.000 I do want to have a Doctor Pepper with coconut 1:52:10.040 --> 1:52:12.559 cream and a lot you know, I want to Yeah, yeah, yeah, I. 1:52:12.560 --> 1:52:15.120 Would like to have a little fun. Excuse me, do 1:52:15.160 --> 1:52:16.360 you have a Mormon drink? Flight? 1:52:18.360 --> 1:52:18.600 You know what? 1:52:18.680 --> 1:52:21.320 I just remember? And I have a potato tiketo in 1:52:21.439 --> 1:52:25.559 my fridge. Ooh, I love a potato tiqito. Any Mexican 1:52:25.600 --> 1:52:27.240 foods where you just shoved some potato in there? 1:52:27.439 --> 1:52:27.599 Yeah. 1:52:27.640 --> 1:52:32.840 I went after Union Hall last night and I did 1:52:32.920 --> 1:52:35.880 have a Leachi margarita. Not as good as a Leachi martini. 1:52:35.920 --> 1:52:41.439 I'll be honest, it was disgusting. Doesn't match. But anyway 1:52:42.000 --> 1:52:45.000 back to our you know what, now that we're on 1:52:45.120 --> 1:52:49.200 the fucking post, we could talk about the NYPD. Fucking 1:52:50.320 --> 1:52:53.040 watch if you get groped, Watch if you actually need help. 1:52:53.640 --> 1:52:57.559 These motherfuckers. Someone jumped the turnstile. It's a two dollars 1:52:57.840 --> 1:53:04.679 ninety cent ticket. Four people shot. The NYPD shot four 1:53:04.840 --> 1:53:06.560 people on a train platform. 1:53:06.920 --> 1:53:10.840 Pew pew, pew. Like it's fucking guns and robbers. Why 1:53:10.880 --> 1:53:13.599 are you trying to shoot people for like pretty much 1:53:13.760 --> 1:53:16.120 any kind of robbery, Like, I don't know, I just 1:53:16.160 --> 1:53:20.040 don't think anybody's like stuff is worth someone dying. No, 1:53:20.880 --> 1:53:22.960 get the cops out of our fucking subways. 1:53:23.200 --> 1:53:28.439 Stop harassing the churoh women, stop fucking shooting civilians. And 1:53:28.479 --> 1:53:30.920 why don't you get rapists, Why don't you start fucking 1:53:31.600 --> 1:53:32.400 arresting each other? 1:53:32.520 --> 1:53:36.920 You lose it actually, like like perfectly attaches to this 1:53:37.120 --> 1:53:39.840 episode with because of like the subway stuff, because yeah, 1:53:39.880 --> 1:53:43.320 you would immediately think, oh, this crime in the subway, 1:53:43.439 --> 1:53:45.200 get the police in there, but like, look what they're 1:53:45.240 --> 1:53:49.439 fucking doing Jesus, that story's crazy and did one person 1:53:49.520 --> 1:53:51.200 die or one person's in critical condition? 1:53:51.320 --> 1:53:54.920 I know that I unfortunately am a headline only woman, 1:53:55.280 --> 1:53:58.320 and I have no details. No, no, I do read 1:53:58.320 --> 1:54:00.559 the news for our show. I am very involved. 1:54:00.800 --> 1:54:02.280 Yeah yeah, yeah, you just don't know the answer to 1:54:02.360 --> 1:54:06.400 that question. And that's absolutely acceptable. I'm fine, that's fine. 1:54:06.439 --> 1:54:09.439 I just guilty. Yeah, I mean for the post mortem, 1:54:09.479 --> 1:54:13.880 I was gonna be like, well, I think give New 1:54:13.960 --> 1:54:16.439 Yorkers more of a benefit of the doubt, because I 1:54:16.560 --> 1:54:20.640 do think that they like help. Like I talked, I 1:54:20.760 --> 1:54:22.559 talked about how I fainted in the subway in New 1:54:22.640 --> 1:54:24.519 York and a lot of people helped me, you know. 1:54:25.360 --> 1:54:28.559 But and I have stepped in when I've seen people 1:54:28.600 --> 1:54:32.560 getting harassed and stuff like that, but like this, that 1:54:32.800 --> 1:54:35.040 scene is just so haunting to me. How everybody just 1:54:35.160 --> 1:54:37.320 kind of like reads their paper and like makes eyes 1:54:37.360 --> 1:54:38.840 at each other like are we going to do anything? 1:54:38.840 --> 1:54:41.480 And then no one does anything and the story Nicole 1:54:41.520 --> 1:54:45.640 said that even dick Wolf was like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:54:47.920 --> 1:54:50.160 Well we found an episode that fucked dick Wolf up. 1:54:50.280 --> 1:54:52.400 So that's and that's in season one, and he kept 1:54:52.800 --> 1:54:57.640 chugging along, so not fucked up enough, I guess chugging 1:54:58.000 --> 1:55:03.520 uh along, but yeah, this is a I don't know. 1:55:03.720 --> 1:55:07.800 I think it's like everybody, every woman is very like 1:55:08.920 --> 1:55:12.120 up on high alert. I think on public transportation, like 1:55:12.200 --> 1:55:14.360 you just are like you just have to be looking 1:55:14.400 --> 1:55:17.200 around at your surroundings and like figuring out you know. 1:55:18.040 --> 1:55:21.320 No, And there's a younger comic at the cellar and 1:55:21.520 --> 1:55:24.000 she was about to take an hour long train ride 1:55:24.080 --> 1:55:27.040 home and I was like, oh, yeah, damn, Like it's 1:55:27.120 --> 1:55:29.400 two in the morning and you're just something alone on 1:55:29.560 --> 1:55:34.080 the eat Like fuck. I feel lucky that I can 1:55:35.240 --> 1:55:41.200 take a cheap car, yes, because those lay ones are expensive. 1:55:41.240 --> 1:55:43.960 They add up, it's hard, so I feel really lucky 1:55:44.040 --> 1:55:44.840 to be close by. 1:55:45.520 --> 1:55:47.000 I had a friend who used to fall asleep on 1:55:47.040 --> 1:55:48.680 the train all the time, and she'd be like, it's 1:55:48.720 --> 1:55:50.720 not that big of a deal. I'm only one stop pass. 1:55:50.760 --> 1:55:53.040 If I fall asleep, I'll just walk. And I'm like, no, 1:55:53.320 --> 1:55:56.240 it's not about missing your stop. Like stop falling asleep 1:55:56.280 --> 1:55:59.760 on the train gonna get fucking kidnapped or like a 1:56:00.080 --> 1:56:04.120 alted Like I don't know, but everybody in every city 1:56:04.160 --> 1:56:06.920 that you're on, you know, just we I'm always telling everybody, 1:56:07.000 --> 1:56:08.720 keep your wits about you. Don't be staring at your 1:56:08.720 --> 1:56:11.160 phone too hard for too long, even though I'm guilty 1:56:11.200 --> 1:56:14.040 of it. Just glance up, make sure everybody around you 1:56:14.240 --> 1:56:17.040 is normal and not being all I got care. 1:56:17.240 --> 1:56:19.200 It's actually so funny because I put it in the 1:56:19.240 --> 1:56:22.720 shared album. But I took a video of the sprinkler 1:56:22.800 --> 1:56:25.160 situation and everyone running chaos and you are in a 1:56:25.200 --> 1:56:27.280 white dress in the middle of it, all on your 1:56:27.360 --> 1:56:28.920 phone looking at it hard. 1:56:31.440 --> 1:56:34.000 I felt safe. I felt safe. We were running, going 1:56:34.080 --> 1:56:37.440 wild and you it was it was. It was very 1:56:37.560 --> 1:56:39.680 stoned when that happened, and I was like, I know 1:56:39.840 --> 1:56:41.400 that's what made you pass. And then I think I 1:56:41.560 --> 1:56:43.840 was just looking at my phone, going, wait, what's going 1:56:43.920 --> 1:56:46.400 on with the sprinkler? Like I just I tried to 1:56:46.440 --> 1:56:49.200 smoke a little weed to like be like food, and 1:56:49.280 --> 1:56:50.920 then it was it's always backfires. 1:56:50.960 --> 1:56:54.160 I need to not But now we found a tarantula. 1:56:54.280 --> 1:56:56.720 Oh my god, I did a terrible thing, actually that 1:56:56.840 --> 1:56:59.760 I will confess on this. So my friend has like 1:56:59.800 --> 1:57:04.040 a giant phobia of frogs. It is an irrational fear. 1:57:04.320 --> 1:57:05.600 She knows it. It is bad. 1:57:06.120 --> 1:57:09.200 Yes, one night during beer pong, we saw a frog 1:57:09.840 --> 1:57:13.320 tiny one, Yeah, tiny were you there was that when 1:57:13.320 --> 1:57:15.560 you saw the frog? Yeah? And I yelled at every 1:57:15.600 --> 1:57:17.840 and I go, don't you fucking tell her? No one 1:57:17.920 --> 1:57:21.360 can tell her about the frog, like it'll ruin everything. 1:57:21.520 --> 1:57:24.440 So while we're at all coved getting drunk, I remember 1:57:24.520 --> 1:57:28.520 the frog. And since the vacation is done, I go, oh, 1:57:28.920 --> 1:57:32.160 I do have something to reveal. Biggest mistake of my life. 1:57:32.720 --> 1:57:35.840 I ruined everything. The phobia is deeper than I could 1:57:35.880 --> 1:57:40.160 have ever envision. She basically said, that's the one place 1:57:40.240 --> 1:57:43.640 I've ever felt safe like to go. And I didn't 1:57:43.640 --> 1:57:45.600 realize she was always on hi alert. And then Lane 1:57:45.680 --> 1:57:48.240 was like fuck. And because she's like, well, I'm always 1:57:48.280 --> 1:57:50.040 on edge, I'm in Florida, I'm always looking, she goes, 1:57:50.040 --> 1:57:51.800 if you see one in New York, do not tell me. 1:57:51.920 --> 1:57:52.880 She goes, do not do this. 1:57:53.360 --> 1:57:55.120 And it's like the biggest mistake I've ever made in 1:57:55.200 --> 1:57:56.880 my life because it's the one place, she says, she 1:57:56.960 --> 1:57:59.800 always feels free and safe and isn't always checking for frogs. 1:57:59.840 --> 1:58:02.600 And I go, are you always checking for frogs? 1:58:02.720 --> 1:58:04.880 And she is, oh my god. 1:58:05.520 --> 1:58:08.320 It's so it's such a phobia that she is always 1:58:08.440 --> 1:58:11.000 thinking about it and I can't believe it that I 1:58:11.080 --> 1:58:14.959 took the one safe haven away from her by revealing 1:58:15.040 --> 1:58:17.000 the frog. What I thought was safe because we were 1:58:17.040 --> 1:58:20.520 just like drunk out of springs And she goes, well, 1:58:20.520 --> 1:58:23.080 it's just gonna be like everywhere else. I'm always on edge, 1:58:23.080 --> 1:58:25.960 I'm always circling. She's like lifeguard looking for a frog 1:58:26.000 --> 1:58:26.520 at all times. 1:58:27.520 --> 1:58:29.760 Oh my god, maybe we need to figure out some 1:58:29.880 --> 1:58:32.440 kind of like exposure therapy for her. And they started, 1:58:32.720 --> 1:58:35.080 and then they started reminiscing of all the times she's 1:58:35.160 --> 1:58:38.440 hat like at restaurants, like always looking under tables, and 1:58:38.440 --> 1:58:40.400 I'm like, I didn't know it ran this deep. I'm 1:58:40.440 --> 1:58:43.400 the worst friend ever. No, you were telling her about 1:58:43.400 --> 1:58:46.040 something that happened a forty twenty four hours earlier. I mean, 1:58:46.200 --> 1:58:48.160 who could know it went so deep? But like now 1:58:48.200 --> 1:58:48.720 I guess we know. 1:58:48.880 --> 1:58:50.800 This is what my mom always says, I talk too much. 1:58:50.880 --> 1:58:53.880 I need to shut my mouth, like stop telling people's stuff. 1:58:54.280 --> 1:58:55.840 And that would have been perfect, but I was like 1:58:55.960 --> 1:58:57.600 so fucked up like that. It just like hit me 1:58:57.640 --> 1:58:59.360 and I go, oh, this will be a funny thing. 1:59:00.120 --> 1:59:04.040 And then it was like I'll never feel relaxed again. 1:59:04.080 --> 1:59:05.960 She goes, it was the only place I can relax. 1:59:07.960 --> 1:59:09.600 She goes, I didn't know even frogs are there. She goes, 1:59:09.640 --> 1:59:12.200 thank god, I didn't know during the dinner because it's 1:59:12.240 --> 1:59:14.480 like a wet and she goes, but I should have known. 1:59:14.640 --> 1:59:16.760 I go, well, there's tons of crickets. There was crickets 1:59:16.800 --> 1:59:19.920 in my room. And she goes, oh, well, that's the frogs, pray. 1:59:20.040 --> 1:59:22.400 I should have known there were frogs, like she knows 1:59:22.480 --> 1:59:24.720 what they're eating, like she knows of a cricket's ear. 1:59:25.160 --> 1:59:26.840 God, oh my god. 1:59:27.480 --> 1:59:29.440 But then other people saw a snake on the property. 1:59:29.440 --> 1:59:31.080 I'm glad I didn't see that. That would have really 1:59:31.120 --> 1:59:34.560 fucked me up, but not that I would never relax again. 1:59:36.400 --> 1:59:38.360 Poor thing. We need to look into like an exposure 1:59:38.400 --> 1:59:40.120 therapy for her. Maybe there's like someone that can like 1:59:40.280 --> 1:59:42.400 slowly introduce her to like a nice frog, and we 1:59:42.440 --> 1:59:44.200 can like figure out some way that she can get 1:59:44.240 --> 1:59:44.520 over it. 1:59:45.160 --> 1:59:47.960 I don't know she's been strong before because her friend 1:59:48.040 --> 1:59:49.600 Cassidy got married and she was in the wedding and 1:59:49.640 --> 1:59:52.600 there were frogs at the pond and it was hard 1:59:52.640 --> 1:59:55.880 for her. Oh yeah, because she had to wear he 1:59:56.320 --> 1:59:59.960 oh thong heels, thong kitten. 1:59:59.720 --> 2:00:07.160 Heels like flip flop kitten heels. Yikes, that's a choice, okay, 2:00:07.960 --> 2:00:12.520 and that's also a lot of toe exposed for frog touching. Anyway, 2:00:13.040 --> 2:00:15.080 let's move on. This is gonna be the longest episode 2:00:15.120 --> 2:00:17.920 of our podcast history. Uh, what would is it? Okay? 2:00:17.960 --> 2:00:18.360 If I move on? 2:00:19.040 --> 2:00:20.880 Yeah, I was gonna say I was like shaking crickets 2:00:20.920 --> 2:00:23.000 out of my clothes with no thought in my brain. 2:00:23.480 --> 2:00:28.440 Yeah, no thought in or out. Yeah, I mean I 2:00:28.600 --> 2:00:29.880 had I had crickets in my house. 2:00:30.080 --> 2:00:32.240 But I also like, I hate getting nauseous from drugs 2:00:32.240 --> 2:00:34.320 and hating too much. Like I've just been very like 2:00:34.520 --> 2:00:37.880 more not into it. But I was like, I just 2:00:37.920 --> 2:00:39.720 want to eat the drugs to be included, but not 2:00:39.840 --> 2:00:40.520 feel anything. 2:00:40.640 --> 2:00:45.200 And that is what happened was I hate mallia mushrooms 2:00:45.480 --> 2:00:48.240 and just floated and was like waiting for people to 2:00:48.320 --> 2:00:55.960 start talking again. I'm like, when is solitary hour over? Okay, 2:00:56.240 --> 2:00:58.240 Let's move on to our what would Sister Peg do? 2:00:58.360 --> 2:01:01.160 Our weekly segment where we direct you towards an organization 2:01:01.480 --> 2:01:02.000 a website. 2:01:02.080 --> 2:01:03.840 I do want to interrupt again, but it is funny 2:01:03.960 --> 2:01:06.360 to see all the couple and everyone different because you 2:01:06.480 --> 2:01:08.480 and one other couple were the reading couples, but you 2:01:08.560 --> 2:01:11.040 were real books and they were kindle books, but like, yeah, 2:01:11.640 --> 2:01:13.760 you guys were the readers of the of that. 2:01:13.920 --> 2:01:16.080 I just am trying to get through this book because 2:01:16.160 --> 2:01:19.160 I'm so late for book club every month and I'm 2:01:19.240 --> 2:01:20.920 just reading at the last minute, and then I'm one 2:01:20.960 --> 2:01:22.880 of the only people that's ever finished the book. But 2:01:23.000 --> 2:01:24.440 I was like, oh, on this trip, I'll get some 2:01:24.600 --> 2:01:26.720 chance to read and like actually get ahead in the 2:01:26.720 --> 2:01:28.960 book and not be like the day before book club 2:01:29.080 --> 2:01:33.520 fucking freaking out and binge reading. But yes, I love 2:01:33.560 --> 2:01:36.480 a I actually have. Oh no, that's not true. I've 2:01:36.480 --> 2:01:38.320 read a book on my kindle fire, but I don't 2:01:38.400 --> 2:01:43.040 usually I'm more of a paper book person. Anyway, Let's 2:01:43.080 --> 2:01:44.840 move on to our what would Sister Peg Do? This 2:01:45.000 --> 2:01:49.480 is our weekly segment where we direct you towards an article, 2:01:49.760 --> 2:01:51.960 a blog post that I love to talk about. No, 2:01:52.280 --> 2:01:55.040 not a website, an organization, something that has more information 2:01:55.600 --> 2:01:58.160 for you about what we talked about today, or something 2:01:58.200 --> 2:01:59.560 that could be helpful for you. And I wanted to 2:01:59.600 --> 2:02:02.800 point you to an article on the rain website. Rain 2:02:03.160 --> 2:02:05.440 stands for the Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network. We've 2:02:05.440 --> 2:02:07.640 called them out many times on this podcast, but they 2:02:07.800 --> 2:02:12.040 had an article specifically about street harassment, which encompasses like 2:02:12.120 --> 2:02:16.000 public transportation harassment. So they lay out the definition the 2:02:16.080 --> 2:02:18.360 effects that street harassment can have and it also has 2:02:18.400 --> 2:02:20.040 helpful tips of what to do if you're a victim 2:02:20.080 --> 2:02:23.320 in this situation as well as how to help out 2:02:23.480 --> 2:02:27.640 if you witness street harassment. So, according to Rain, when 2:02:27.680 --> 2:02:30.640 in doubt, assume you should help. 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