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Speaker 1: a deal, well hold on, let's let's go to the

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Speaker 1: Southern lawyer himself. This is a big one. Have a it, good, sir,

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Speaker 1: We got all sales. Love Jesus riding in a deal

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Speaker 1: so shocking that many assumed it was fake when it

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Speaker 1: was first reported. The Los Angeles Lakers have acquired Luka

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Speaker 1: Doncic from the Dallas Mavericks in a blockbuster three team

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Speaker 1: deal that sends Anthony Davis to Dallas. So the move

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Speaker 1: sends Luca, Maxi, Kliba, Markkeith Morris to the Lakers in

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Speaker 1: exchange for eighty, Max Christy and a twenty twenty nine

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Speaker 1: first round pick. The Utah Jazz getting in on the fun,

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Speaker 1: they received Jalen hoodsa Fino and two twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: When it happened last night, people were like, is this real?

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Speaker 1: Did Shaums get hacked? What the hell's going on here?

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Speaker 1: Luca to the Lakers, eighty to the MAVs. How surprised

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Speaker 1: were you? I guess is an insane question to ask,

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Speaker 1: But what do you think?

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Speaker 2: I think? The question asked is why why did the

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Speaker 2: MAVs do this?

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Speaker 3: Exactly?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why we need Brian Windhurst here? What do the

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Speaker 2: MAVs know? That is the question. I've tried to talk

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Speaker 2: myself into reasons over and over and over again. It's

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Speaker 2: that he is leaving in what could be a year

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Speaker 2: and a half. They must they must know that he

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Speaker 2: actually go for it, as the title contender, I suppose,

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Speaker 2: which I agree with. You might as well go for

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Speaker 2: it right here, right now with Anthony Davis and others.

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Speaker 2: If you're gonna lose Luca, But why not just keep

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Speaker 2: Luca around? For that is it's the other question.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and then the flip to that is okay. In

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Speaker 1: the in the back channels, Lucas said, Hey, I don't

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Speaker 1: to go h Okay, maybe maybe we learn of that right.

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Speaker 1: But then if that's the case, don't you say to

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Speaker 1: every other team in the association who wants Luka Doncic,

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Speaker 1: let's hear your best trade package.

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Speaker 2: And you get more than Anthony Davison A pick. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's the You have.

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Speaker 1: Every basically every team imaginal lining up giving you their

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Speaker 1: best offer for a guy that's not even twenty six

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Speaker 1: who's like perennially an MVP favorite like you, would every

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Speaker 2: I know we don't have other offers on the table.

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Speaker 2: I do think though, that this is the year to

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Speaker 3: If you were, wait, who do you think is going

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Speaker 2: I would say who would you? This is the question

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Speaker 2: MAVs versus No, that's not a question Mas versus Lakers

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Speaker 3: Better for the rest of the yea the series. This

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Speaker 3: This is a move for the next ten years of

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Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is if the MAVs were going

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Speaker 2: And whether or not there's a better deal, there really

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Speaker 2: isn't a reason to give up Luka Doncic and this

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Speaker 2: guy's an MVP candidate every single season. I'm just trying

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Speaker 3: I'm not talking myself into this one. There's no possible way.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Pelton gave this an F. Kevin Pelton is like

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Speaker 3: He gave this an F and this feels like an

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Speaker 3: built an awesome team around Luca. The reason that Kyrie

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Speaker 2: I know crazy.

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Speaker 3: This is a bad trade for the Mavericks, and it

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Speaker 2: I do think, though, I'm it's a series right now.

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Speaker 2: Luca is the best player in this deal. I don't

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Speaker 2: There's not a question. I'm just trying to tack myself

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Speaker 2: into how you give up the best player?

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Speaker 1: Why?

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Speaker 2: Why? Why? Why? Somebody has to know. Brian Windhorst has

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Speaker 2: Or he's constantly injured or something is going on with

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Speaker 1: He's never going to play basketball again. If that comes

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, we don't know. In the finals last year,

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Speaker 2: those are the only two reasons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're I mean, you're not trading for a workhorse

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Speaker 2: That's the part. It's the weird part. But these are

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Speaker 2: the best Anthony Davis years, this one, and so it's

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Speaker 2: weird that they didn't get another super duper star.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I think like Bill Simmons analogy here

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Speaker 1: other offers, was like, yeah, you have your house and

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Speaker 1: Mavericks with this house in Luca though, Holy crap, this

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Speaker 1: into the market. That's the perplexing part to me. The

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Speaker 3: So you're saying this is a Tom Hanks money pit situation.

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Speaker 3: They didn't know they know what they're getting into it.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the Lakers don't. Yeah, and maybe it's just Nico

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Speaker 3: relationship with Anthony Davis from Nico's time with Nike, like

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Speaker 3: Anthony Davis is still a good player. He's a top

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Speaker 3: Max Christy a decent prospect that will be a helpful

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Speaker 3: like PJ. Washington, Daniel Gafford, the Kyrie trades, stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: They've traded away a lot of their future to build

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Speaker 3: from Dirk Navitzky. You know that doesn't happen all that often,

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Speaker 3: where you have a franchise icon who retires and has

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Speaker 3: prior to yesterday, all of us would say, Luka, Doncic

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Speaker 3: one team superstar in the NBA. Now he's gone. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: by the trade deadline, he was the MVP favorite coming

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Speaker 1: He got traded before theefore as he was the year before. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So he's that. He has had some infighting with his

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Speaker 1: We were like, holy crap, great work before at the

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Speaker 1: They go to the finals.

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Speaker 2: I wonder how long the MAVs have been talking to teams,

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Speaker 2: because it is extremely weird if they just say whoa

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Speaker 2: trade deadlines on February sixth, we got five days. Okay, here,

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Speaker 3: He hasn't talked to teams, Well, we wouldn't know about

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Speaker 3: Sam approached one other team, right, and the other team

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Speaker 2: Well, that is the absolute weirdest thing.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's super weird that the MAVs are pulling

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Speaker 3: the plug because I mean, that's all of the reporting.

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Speaker 3: That's the same thing Windhorse was saying, was that the

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Speaker 3: MAVs are the team approaching and saying we want a

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Speaker 3: trade Luca. They went to the Lakers and did it,

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Speaker 3: not the other way round, not like the Lakers kicking

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Speaker 3: the tires on it. The map decided we're done with

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Speaker 2: No, he's an MVP candidate every single season. He was

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Speaker 2: How How I can't believe that he only called Yeah,

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Speaker 2: There have to be calls that are happening behind closed doors,

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Speaker 1: There has to be no. I don't I don't believe that, because,

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Speaker 1: Lucas for sale, basically like give us your best trade packages.

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Speaker 1: You imagine the blowback like that we are now doing,

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Speaker 1: but you imagine get more. I know that you just

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Speaker 3: Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they have called everybody.

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Speaker 3: No, here's the thing. This is not a good Lucas

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Speaker 3: saying I'm going going to the Lakers in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Maybe this is the best the Mavericks could do. Maybe

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Speaker 3: future to get Luca for eighteen months? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: If you're the Thunder, are you trading your second best

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Speaker 3: not sticking around San Antonio, who he already lives in

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Speaker 3: Lakers are a glamour franchise. This always works out for them.

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Speaker 3: They always have one of the generationally best players in

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Speaker 3: I think this is a terrible move for the Mavericks.

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Speaker 3: I think this is very dumb and we're going to

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Speaker 3: He's going to the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: Tim McMahon said last night the MAVs had major concerns

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Speaker 1: super right, that's the five year, three hundred and forty

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Speaker 3: He would have sign the biggest contract in NBA history history,

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Speaker 1: To leave, and then MAVs GM Nico Harrison told ESPN quote,

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Speaker 1: you got to have a response to, like, why the

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Speaker 1: hell did you just trade Luka Doncic, and that's that's

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Speaker 1: his recenty. He started a defense chance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but as I trying to, I don't we shouldn't

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Speaker 2: as well as everybody else but our own John Hollinger

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Speaker 2: said he's no longer eligible to sign a gargantuan super

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Speaker 2: max this summer. It can only extend for thirty percent

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Speaker 2: of the cap getting in twenty six twenty seven, and

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Speaker 2: then he would do that three year minimum deal or sorry,

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Speaker 2: excuse me, that three year extension so he could go

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Speaker 2: get it in twenty six and twenty nine. I guess

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Speaker 1: Yes, this is so he'sving a lot of money left

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Speaker 2: Though right now, right now, I don't buy this a

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Speaker 2: about that. But as far as oh he's too fat

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Speaker 2: He just dragged a team, a basketball team with four

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Speaker 1: That and it's also like this is nothing new with

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Speaker 1: Luka Doncic's body, Like he's basically been like this sort

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Speaker 3: Okay, It's like it's like the MAVs red Twitter and said, oh,

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Speaker 3: people don't like Luca's conditioning and they don't like his defense.

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Speaker 3: Throw that out there.

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Speaker 1: He has a reason that we traded him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no possible good reason to trade Luka Doncic.

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Speaker 3: He could weigh three hundred and fifty pounds and still

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Speaker 2: Court, right yeah, well, again, we don't know about his injuries.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about guy who's not playing right he.

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Speaker 3: I was out in San Francisco with Ash for a

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Speaker 3: So clearly there's something wrong with his leg. But fix

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Speaker 1: Fix his leg.

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Speaker 3: Don't trade him for Anthony Davis, who, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Well, right now, yeah, but he's been fairly healthy over

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Speaker 3: It's literally hurt right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh man, how okay do you think this is

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Speaker 1: setting up another Lakers move? You know, you're seeing a

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Speaker 1: that very far fetched? But maybe everything has to be

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean literally everything is in play. If Luka

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Speaker 3: Doncic is getting traded, yeah, I think you can any

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Speaker 3: in the trade machine, put it in and it's gonna

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Speaker 3: seem less ridiculous than this actually happening last night. Right,

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Speaker 3: the Lakers need to make some more moves. Their starting

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Speaker 3: to make some sort of move. Boujie, come on over,

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Speaker 3: baby Jonas Valentunas, come to La we will see. I

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Speaker 3: think that Luca and Lebron will at least play out

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Speaker 3: Teach Luca how to how to have a twenty year

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Speaker 3: could learn some stuff from Lebron. That being said, it

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Speaker 3: would not be surprising to me to see Lebron move

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Speaker 1: What do you think about that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Lakers are probably looking for another center. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Jackson Hayes, Christian Coloco. They got Maxi Kleeban this deal.

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Speaker 2: But he's more injured than the other two guys that

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Speaker 2: plenty of questions. Yeah, I think if Luca beside Lebron,

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Speaker 2: you for you know, nine hundred. Okay, how about that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the deal is, but he just

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Speaker 1: But I don't see why he does. I don't get

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Speaker 3: He just goes out there and kills. He just needs

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Speaker 2: He's twenty five to play until he's later. Lebron could

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Speaker 2: I'm forty years I'm a forty year old man playing basketball.

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Speaker 2: If you play like you, you can't do that. But

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Speaker 3: I was getting ready to keep up a tweet last

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Speaker 3: Jabbar to Lebron James to Luka Danjech. But he ain't

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Speaker 3: going to play anti last forties. Same as Kareem did,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's only it's very very unlike it.

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Speaker 3: They will always keep getting away. They're the most famous

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Speaker 3: what this guy's retiring. It looks awesome. It makes players

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Speaker 3: want to go there. They got Lebron first, they got

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Speaker 1: And to do it without exhausting your supply of draft

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Speaker 1: will help them, although they have a lot of good,

434
00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,080
Speaker 1: talented big guys too, so that weird fit. But anyway,

435
00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,560
Speaker 1: that's my favorite part of this whole thing. Maybe the

436
00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,960
Speaker 1: Lakers got so tired of Anthony Davids saying, hey man,

437
00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,480
Speaker 1: I need a five. Hey man, I want to stop

438
00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,320
Speaker 1: playing five. I don't want to be a center anymore.

439
00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,359
Speaker 1: No more, man, And they're like, oh God, would you

440
00:18:59,359 --> 00:18:59,720
Speaker 1: shut up?

441
00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:00,000
Speaker 2: All right?

442
00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,080
Speaker 1: Just trade them, trade on to the Mavericks. They got

443
00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,840
Speaker 1: a couple good centers, see if he likes it. But baffling,

444
00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,439
Speaker 1: baffling that they did not get more for Luca Doncis

445
00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:09,080
Speaker 1: is what I get at.

446
00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,280
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis had to be the best player to get

447
00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,159
Speaker 2: them where they want to get this year that they

448
00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:19,280
Speaker 2: could get. I assume that they could possibly get into

449
00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,000
Speaker 2: trade because you look at their team now here on paper,

450
00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,760
Speaker 2: with Anthony Davis and Kyrie Irving as your guys and

451
00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:32,560
Speaker 2: Clay Is there as your your championship history, and now

452
00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,399
Speaker 2: you have Derek Lively starting beside Anthony Davis getting the

453
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,719
Speaker 2: center that he wanted. I know they have way too

454
00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,560
Speaker 2: many with Daniel Gafford there, that's the confusing part. But

455
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,159
Speaker 2: you throw those guys in with great wing players and

456
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,280
Speaker 2: great hardcore tough players in PJ. Washington, and then you

457
00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,399
Speaker 2: throw in your Quenton Grimes and Max Christy as a

458
00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,520
Speaker 2: player in your Nausey Marshalls, they have a team I

459
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,879
Speaker 2: think could be a contender if they all play together.

460
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,919
Speaker 2: And this is the season. I know it's not. It

461
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,919
Speaker 2: doesn't come, it doesn't happen automatically. But if there is

462
00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,920
Speaker 2: a year, it's this okay so year where they haven't

463
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:07,160
Speaker 2: proven to be together and all that excellent in the playoffs,

464
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:08,880
Speaker 2: and then there is a drop off with the young

465
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 2: teams and the Rockets and the Grizzlies who haven't gotten

466
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 2: all that far but they're still a damn good team.

467
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,400
Speaker 2: And then they drops off to the Nuggets and Clippers

468
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,439
Speaker 2: and others. But it's got to be seriously hard for

469
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Speaker 2: them to do it.

470
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Speaker 1: And your two guys that you listed as your star

471
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Speaker 1: players are they're older.

472
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like like this is the youngest, this is

473
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Speaker 2: the youngest right this second, oh, the last second. So

474
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,680
Speaker 2: they're thirty one, thirty two. Now they're turning thirty two

475
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Speaker 2: and thirty three, plays getting older.

476
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Speaker 1: This is it And they don't have a lot of

477
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Speaker 1: their own draft capital. As TK said, like this, it

478
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,080
Speaker 1: has to work.

479
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 2: And that Lakers pick ain't going to be that good.

480
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,360
Speaker 1: There's that part of the equation as well. All those

481
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,640
Speaker 1: ye future Lakers picks are suddenly not maybe as exciting

482
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Speaker 1: or enticing if Luca is the cornerstone there.

483
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Speaker 3: I mean, just look what happened with the Hawks when

484
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 3: they did the trade with the Johnson for de Jontay

485
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 3: Murray to the Pelicans. They got back a Lakers pick

486
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Speaker 3: from them, thinking this is gonna be nice, it's gonna

487
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Speaker 3: be a top ten pick. What's in the middle of

488
00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 3: the twenties and this is not a great Lakers team.

489
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,119
Speaker 3: Who knows what Rob Plink is gonna be able to

490
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 3: cook up. Nobody expected this coming. I guess that Rob

491
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,119
Speaker 3: Plink is gonna have a job for life now with

492
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 3: the Lakers. It seemed like he already did. He wasn't

493
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 3: making great moves. He's bringing in Luka Doncic, the next

494
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 3: era of the franchise. Incredible stuff. So who knows what

495
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 3: they're gonna be able to do between now and twenty

496
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 3: twenty nine, the kind of players they're gonna be able

497
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 3: to lure, saying, look, we got the next superstar ready here.

498
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 3: Maybe Lebron will stick around, you can learn a little

499
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 3: bit from him. They got Austin Reeves will be a

500
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Speaker 3: nice player next to Luca. They got some good creators

501
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,679
Speaker 3: out there. It's kind of weird. I feel like the

502
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 3: Mavericks have zero creators right now. They got Kyrie, who's good,

503
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 3: but they don't have any shooting. If they're gonna be

504
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 3: starting Lively or Gafford and then Ad and PJ Washington,

505
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 3: their defense is gonna be good, but their second best

506
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 3: playmaker is Spencer, didn't we he? So I don't know

507
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 3: how realistic that is. On the other side, the Lakers

508
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 3: have all playmakers and no defense.

509
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what's.

510
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 3: Gonna happen there? They're gonna be fun to watch and

511
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 3: JJ Reddick must be beside himself with joy thinking about

512
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 3: the plays he gets to draw up here. He's got

513
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 3: the two smartest dudes in the league and Luca and

514
00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 3: Lebron outside of Jokic. So I don't know, man, this

515
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 3: is this is just crazy stuff. Luca's gonna be on

516
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 3: the Lakers. He probably gonna get a statue with the Lakers.

517
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 3: Probably Jersey retire with the Lakers.

518
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 1: You're probably right. Lakers got what Kareem abdul Jabbar in

519
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 1: their prime. They got shaquill O'Neil in their prime. They

520
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 1: got Paal Gasol in his prime. And I know that

521
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,360
Speaker 1: trade coming up a lot because of the date it happened,

522
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 1: uh compared to this one February first, and just sort

523
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 1: of a shocking, Oh my god, that's all it took

524
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: to get that type of player, Anthony Davis they got

525
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,919
Speaker 1: in their prime, so that took way more to actually

526
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 1: get a d Now, that was a trade request that

527
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,160
Speaker 1: was well known, one three promising young players that took

528
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: ball Heart Brandon Ingram number four pick of the draft,

529
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 1: two unprotected first round picks, So that's a much bigger

530
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: haul really when you look at it. Uh, And now

531
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,679
Speaker 1: they got Luca, And of course they've had Kobe Bryant,

532
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: that was different circumstances they draft get him in the draft. Yeah,

533
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: it's just nuts. They always have one. Well will go

534
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 1: back then, yeah yeah, it's Uh.

535
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 3: Also pretty below in the NBA history, Pretty unbelievable.

536
00:22:59,040 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 1: What else?

537
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 3: What es?

538
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

539
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, just kidding, but this is kind of amazing because

540
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 3: Lebron has always been a Luca fan. Coming out of

541
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 3: coming into the draft, Lebron wanted Luca to be like

542
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 3: the first guy to wear his shoes. He chose Jordan

543
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 3: brand instead. He's been after him for a long time.

544
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 3: Kyrie Irving wanted to play with Anthony Davis back in

545
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 3: the Boston Celtics days. Danny Ainge must be like, I

546
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 3: finally did. I finally united Kyrie Irving and Anthony Davis.

547
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 3: Of course it was on Boston six years later in

548
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 3: a completely different spot, after two separate teams for both

549
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 3: of those guys. But it's happening.

550
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

551
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 3: I did like all of the takes from people last

552
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 3: night saying that the Mavericks have put together the best

553
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 3: team of sidekicks ever assembled, Kyrie, Clay Thompson and A Davis,

554
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 3: and I got a lot of number two guys. Scottie Pippin,

555
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 3: come on down.

556
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Speaker 1: That's fascinating. I see it like there's some similarities if

557
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: I remember correctly, to Luca leaving here in a trade

558
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 1: to Steve moving on from Dallas back in two thousand

559
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: and four. Not a trade at the time, but he

560
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: was playing well. He was a two time All Star,

561
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: he was two All NBA selections with Dallas at the time,

562
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: and then they declined to offer Nash a new contract

563
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: that summer Mark Cuban famously does because he was concerned

564
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 1: about his health and his back, and Nash goes on

565
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,479
Speaker 1: and wins consecutive MVPs and obviously some success. And by

566
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 1: the way, the Mavericks had a Western Conference Finals appearance

567
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: with Nash and Dirk, so you know they were a

568
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,719
Speaker 1: good team and that was shocking. Maybe, like again, when

569
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: you bring up the injury concerns, I know, whe's a

570
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: trade Luca better even than Nash at that point and

571
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 1: all that, but there's some similarities maybe to the reasoning.

572
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Speaker 2: I guess at least Cuban is still there, He's still

573
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 2: part of the whole thing. He regrets the Nash move,

574
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 2: I'm sure, but I suppose he was in these conversations.

575
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 2: There had to be with these conversations. That's the crazy

576
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,959
Speaker 2: part is you see Dirk, who was this team, tweet

577
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 2: that red face surprise, shocked that this is happening to

578
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 2: his old team. I guess he didn't know about it

579
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 2: that game out where for him.

580
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 3: You're right, and Cuban has that he regrets the Nash thing.

581
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 3: There was the quote graphic going around last night saying

582
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 3: that with Cuban saying, if he had to choose between

583
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 3: his wife and Luca, He's going to get a divorce.

584
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 3: Oh right right, yes, well, like, was Nico just freelancing?

585
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 3: Did anybody else know that he was calling around? Just why?

586
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: I want to know if Nico was hanging out with

587
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: Rob like last night on his Saturday night, because this

588
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: has the feelings of like they're just like drinking some wine,

589
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: shooting the shit in the booth and like, you know,

590
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: starts spitballing a little bit here, and then you know,

591
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 1: Nico maybe a couple too many pops in him, says

592
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 1: something like I shouldn't say this, but I don't think

593
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: Luca wants to stay with us. And that's really interesting actually,

594
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: and they make a deal. Happen right there and so

595
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 1: and they go like they start giggling, like who's gonna

596
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: text Shans? Who wants to give to Sean? Oh? Can

597
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: you do it? You do it? Well, we're gonna shock

598
00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: the world.

599
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 3: But I literally they had to say this is actually real. Yes,

600
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 3: when he tweeted it, yes, nobody would believe it. What

601
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 3: was it like for you guys waking up this morning

602
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 3: to see it?

603
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yeah, Trey did a hilarious little emergency

604
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: shed cast. You were in your shed last night at

605
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 1: like one o'clock. He's in his pj's reacting this. I

606
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: was dead to the world. It was like, honestly, is

607
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: where as it sounds. It's like, it's just the classic

608
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: This league, man, It's just like this league is so

609
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 1: silly and so fun that you can only laugh. And

610
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: you see all the texts obviously that were coming through.

611
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: I was sleeping. Then I see your video and it's like, Okay, well,

612
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: I guess we're working on a Sunday here. But it's

613
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: just I was laughing, and I'm like telling Nora and

614
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 1: she's trying like what what is that? Why is this?

615
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 1: What's this big deal?

616
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 3: And I'm like, it's funny when you have to explain, like, well,

617
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 3: they didn't get any draft picks.

618
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: There's over the guys twenty five years old.

619
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Speaker 3: One of the best players in the league. You can get

620
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 3: a lot of draft picks, Michale Bridges, he's not even

621
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 3: an all star. He got five draft price So yeah,

622
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: my kids were like, what is a draft pick? Was like,

623
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 3: all you need to know is that Luke is a Laker.

624
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: But what did you think when you obviously looked at

625
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: your phone at some point in the morning, You're like, oh, wow.

626
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I didn't get it on my phone, thankfully,

627
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 2: I got it straight on my computer. Yeah, it was

628
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: really nice that this is real, that this is happening

629
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: in the company slack, that this isn't entirely fake and

630
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 2: we don't need to check the notes, those additional notes

631
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 2: that are on X. People seriously wondered if this Sean's

632
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 2: tweet was hacked. Oh yeah, how could you not at

633
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 2: this time to trade Luca who they're waiting for. We

634
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 2: all thought to come back and be healthy and go

635
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 2: to the finals again. In all their effort to go

636
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: and get yeah, a d who ain't getting younger and

637
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: who's injured himself, I'd be I was just entirely shocked.

638
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 2: I just had to absorb it. And yeah, you know,

639
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 2: I take it to Danielle and I tell her and

640
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: she said she was even surprised. And she's just not

641
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 2: a basketball nerd no like any of us, So she

642
00:27:59,640 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: was shocked.

643
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: It's crazy trade. When CNN is, you know, dropping the headline,

644
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: Yeah that whoa? Is this the most stunning trade in

645
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 1: NBA history? Shocking however you want to call it? Yeah,

646
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, is there any others that even.

647
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 3: This is a season trade. This is a mid season trade. So,

648
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 3: like I'm thinking, I'm trying to, like I think I

649
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 3: said in the Shed last night, this is like this

650
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 3: kind of a trade comes around once a decade. That's

651
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 3: not even true because, like I'm thinking back, the Harden

652
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 3: trade from Oka CEE to Houston was pretty surprising, but

653
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 3: that happened in It happened in the summer, right before

654
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 3: trading camp started. The Thunder were coming off of their

655
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 3: Finals appearance. We all thought, Okay, the Thunder the next

656
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 3: dynasty here, so that was super shocking. The guy was

657
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 3: a sixth man though he has not yet an MVP

658
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 3: candidate slash all NBA player.

659
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: And it was a big like they had to make

660
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: a decision. It felt like between Harden and Abaka, and

661
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: it was like, who are we really gonna like give

662
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: the money to because we can't.

663
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can ask our buddy Gritsch. I was

664
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 3: team Harden even back then, right call, even back then.

665
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 3: Prior to that, I was like Kevin Garnett going from

666
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 3: the Timberwolves to the Celtics. That was a humongous trade

667
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 3: that started with the Ray Allen deal on Draft Night,

668
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: but KG had had a long time playing with the

669
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 3: Minnesota Timberwolves at that point, and there were rumors that

670
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 3: like he was going to go to the Lakers of

671
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 3: the Celtics. I think he was an early guy to

672
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 3: have a list, so that one wasn't it to me?

673
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: Right?

674
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 3: The only thing I could think of in my brain

675
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: roll index for a shocking moment like this, I hate

676
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 3: to say rip, was when Kobe Bryant passed away. I

677
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 3: was like, what, this can't be really real, that it

678
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,239
Speaker 3: actually happened. And that's why to me, I was like,

679
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 3: I had a visceral reaction. My stomach hurt. I'm not

680
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: like a Lakers fan or a mass fan, but to

681
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 3: see a deal this big was crazy. Man, Like, I

682
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: don't know, maybe the old heads out there would be

683
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: Kareem forcing a trade from the Bucks to you guessed it,

684
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,239
Speaker 3: the Lakers way back then.

685
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to think like when Shack was traded

686
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: to the Heat and that deal, like lamar Odom and

687
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: Karun Butler and whatever, Brian Grant, you know, end of

688
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: the end of the obviously Kobe sort of Shack dynasty.

689
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: There's the pau Gasol one, but this isn't really on

690
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: that level. Then, there's like other just like timing ones

691
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: are weird, like DeMarcus Cousins getting traded like during the

692
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: All Star Game, again not a name on Luca's level.

693
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: Blake Griffin getting traded to the Pistons was weird because

694
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: we were like told he was going to be like

695
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: his jersey was going up in the rafters, like before

696
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: he was done playing with the clips and suddenly he

697
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: was dealt. Those are the ones off the top of

698
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: my head, but this one, to me trump's them.

699
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: All.

700
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it sure does. I mean, I'm trying to

701
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: trying to think what Nico Harrison is actually thinking how

702
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: it all works, and trying to think if let's say,

703
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,479
Speaker 2: Luka Doncic can't play more than another three playoffs for

704
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: some reason, he'll be done in three years, would this

705
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: be worth it? Or would you'd rather just sit on Luca,

706
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: Just sit on Luca rather than make any trade and

707
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: just see him in the playoffs three times, rather than

708
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 2: have a first round pick and Anthony Davis for this.

709
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: I do want to see Anthony Davis and Kyrie and

710
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 2: the shooters of Clay and PJ. Washington around them with

711
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: their glively who got them to the finals. Like, I

712
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: do think they have more three point shooting than you're

713
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: saying they do, and they.

714
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 3: Have, they're going to playing two non shooters most of

715
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: the time. If Anthony Davis really wants to play with

716
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 3: the five because he's not shooting, he's a non shooter.

717
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: He thinks he is.

718
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean he could shoot the ball.

719
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 3: He's twenty six percent from three since the bubble. Yeah,

720
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 3: and it's mid range is gone here. And he wants

721
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 3: to play four, where you usually have to be a

722
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 3: shooter like the MAVs have had for the past, this

723
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 3: season and last season.

724
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna end the game at the five. There's

725
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: no doubt. There has to be. He has to play

726
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: the five, but he'll play half the minutes at four,

727
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: I assume anyway, Just trying to how does this make him?

728
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: How does this make sense? Trying to I think what

729
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: you're saying.

730
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people even maybe agree with you,

731
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: like the Dallas Mavericks, like it is a good team

732
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: and we're gonna see it like this is all hypothetical.

733
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: We've got to see the pieces together, how they all fit,

734
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: even the Luca Lebron park. I mean, you do got

735
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: to see how it works. Those are ball dominant guys. Well,

736
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: make it work, probably, But the point is people might

737
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: agree with you, Like the MAVs tomorrow or this season, Yeah,

738
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: they might be better. They like this roster might be

739
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: better than what the Lakers currently have going on, having

740
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: those center, having some holes to fill and all that.

741
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like it's.

742
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: Still super potentially super short sighted. Yeah, and it's like

743
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: unless these maybe Rob and Nico Nola, Hey man, the

744
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: world's done, like we're it's over as we know it,

745
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: and that's in play then. And besides that, I don't

746
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: get like the long term plans is still like this

747
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: is not this isn't thirty five year old Luca. This

748
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: is not at the end. You know, it does not

749
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: even prime Lucas.

750
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: That's why it doesn't weird. You could get it makes sense, Yeah,

751
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: you could get more.

752
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, any other winners and losers from this blockbuster trade,

753
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: I get, you know, losers, well, living on the East Coast,

754
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: definitely loser. You know, the West coast people had it.

755
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: They had it made last night at a nine o'clock

756
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: I guess what finding out around nine nine to thirty

757
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: t K where you get you said you were getting

758
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: in bed? Is that true?

759
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? I watched I watched the Royal Rumble to see

760
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 3: what happened, and that was John Cena. Afterwards what then

761
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 3: I watched the first half of Jackie Chan's Drunken Master. Oh,

762
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 3: and then I was ready to go to bed. Yeah,

763
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 3: like one last check of the phone. This can't be real,

764
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: this is real. Are my boys awake? Boy, my boys

765
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 3: were asleep. Ash was awake for a little bit. He's

766
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 3: a young man at heart, just like me. But it

767
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: does make me think. One thing I was thinking this

768
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: morning was like, is this way Mark Cuban sold the

769
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 3: Mavericks last year? Did he know? It was weird that

770
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 3: he would sell the Mavericks. The guy is like known

771
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 3: for being a Mavericks owner slash governor, and it was

772
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 3: weird that he would just back out.

773
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. With Luca there, yeah, we were like, we're like,

774
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: is Mark Cuban running for president?

775
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah? You're like, well, something's gonna come out?

776
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, is it this? Yeah? I was definitely wondering

777
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: why he moved on. Now he is still sort of

778
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: part of the organization, but he's not part of the

779
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: Department of Government Efficiency. I mean, he hasn't moved into

780
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: an entirely new job, but it was weird. Yeah, entirely.

781
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: Has he com do we know if he's commented on this? Uh? Straight,

782
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: I haven't seen.

783
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: One other No, no, no, I was the first thing

784
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: I did. Actually, I forgot to mention when I saw

785
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 2: traded the shed cast, I was wondering if if the

786
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 2: Jamal Shedd was traded. I mean, was he dealt? What's

787
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: going on here? What is going on here? There's so many.

788
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: Questions, stunning moment in the NBA. Nobody really prepared for

789
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: for this. Nobody even I mean I guess, okay, I

790
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: was gonna say nobody even considered this a possibility. But

791
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: people have been for years saying, you watch, Luca will

792
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: get to the Lakers. You know, there's been either whispers

793
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: or maybe that's just wishful thinking that because it's the Lakers,

794
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: they always get a guy like Luca. So there were

795
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: people that did call that. But man, this makes trade

796
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 1: discussions about Jimmy Butler dearon Fox Cam Johnson, who seemed

797
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: pretty inconsequential.

798
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think so. But you know, if Lebron

799
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 3: gets traded, I don't think it'll happen this year, I

800
00:34:59,040 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 3: think more.

801
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: Yea yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I would as

802
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 2: you talk about the Cuban thing, I would love to

803
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 2: know the infighting details of what Luca had going on

804
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 2: with Dallas, because there are more of those reports. You know,

805
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 2: where he was. He wasn't appreciative of bub Vulgaris saying,

806
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: stop telling me to calm down. That whole thing and

807
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: that whole thing was sort of overblown, and Vulgaris said,

808
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: that's bullpucky and that wasn't real. But he did. He

809
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: was in some sort of infighting with the Mavericks and

810
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 2: he just wanted a beer after going to the NBA.

811
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: Time just grabs it right from him. There has to

812
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 2: be way more than we know, other than he was leaving,

813
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 2: other than he wants to be a Los Angeles Laker,

814
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 2: other than he was going to somewhere. I thought it

815
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 2: would be to the East coast, like a huge organization

816
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 2: like the Knicks or something, to be closer to Slovenia

817
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 2: instead of being further from Slovenia or something. I mean,

818
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: it had to be a big organization and he's the

819
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: biggest organizah, yeah, the one of the.

820
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: One Okay, who writes, who it's the crazy piece then

821
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: with all of the intel and all of like the

822
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: actual behind the scenes, the infighting or the whatever they

823
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: saw or knew about his knee or leg or whatever.

824
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: Who gets it is it? Is it a Timic man

825
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: because he's pretty you know, plugged in mark Stein obviously

826
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: uh in the Dallas Uh yeah sort of organization or

827
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 1: has his tentacles in there, you know. Ramona Shelbourne always

828
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 1: comes through with these.

829
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: Exactly stories.

830
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: I can't get to writing. Get to writing, all right, Well,

831
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: any other final thoughts here before we wrap this up

832
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: and get ready for tomorrow's NBA Weekend winners and losers.

833
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: I thank you.

834
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 3: This is good for Jalen hood Shapino.

835
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: Okay.

836
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 3: People are seeing his name. They're like, oh, yeah, you

837
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 3: might have a chance to play on the.

838
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: Jazz Yeah, I'm taking.

839
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 3: A jazz discussion. Well yeah, literally, they're like, hey, trade's happening.

840
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 3: Throw some picks. Why not they had a trader?

841
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: They had a trade earlier in the day, did they not?

842
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 3: Yeah? PJ. Tucker, Yeah, we'll talk about that on tour

843
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 3: Tucker and Jalen.

844
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: On one Day. That's big.

845
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

846
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 3: The top three winner of the trade deadline yesterday.

847
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: It was I was thinking about Taylor Horton. Tucker is

848
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 2: going to take all of Taylor Horton Tucker's minutes. He's

849
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 2: a bowl now. But maybe he should go back to Utah.

850
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 2: Maybe everybody's going to go back to Utah. I know,

851
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: it was weird just going to the Lakers salaries now

852
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: and seeing Luka Docicch there and just the table now

853
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 2: and what JJ Reddick is going to have to work with.

854
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: That's the most interesting part to me, is how he's

855
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: going to get them involved because he was so enthusiastic

856
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: about getting a team that revolved around moving and just

857
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: constantly moving. And now it's here's the ball, here's the

858
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: ball and Austin Reeves, who will work well with those guys.

859
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, the JJ Reddick postgame, are they going to

860
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: have one anymore? Ever? Him and Lebron I guess they

861
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 2: stopped doing that for a while. But that relationship is

862
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: really interesting and how JJ Redick will make it work.

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Speaker 1: It really is a trade that was too good to

864
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Speaker 1: be true for the Lakers when you think about it,

865
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: because like it's not like the Lakers are like hanging

866
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: on to a play in spot or like sub five hundred,

867
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: like actually playing well, solid record, fifth currently in the West,

868
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: you know, you know, right behind the Nuggets home court

869
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: advantage all that, Like, but you couldn't turn this down, Like,

870
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: no matter what impact it has on the rest of

871
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: your season, whether it hurts your chances in a playoff

872
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: series or going to a conference finals or even a finals,

873
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: and like one last hurrah for the like, it doesn't matter.

874
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: It's too good. It's so little going out the door

875
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: for Luca, for your next guy that like, Okay, we're

876
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: just like we stay in every headline imaginable and we

877
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: are like a team that you have to watch, and

878
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: we're on nationally televised games all the time, not only

879
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: because we're the Lakers, but now because we still have

880
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: like a top five, top three guy in the league.

881
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 3: The Lakers traded a first ballot guaranteed Hall of Famer

882
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 3: already a top seventy five player and a first round pick,

883
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: and everybody thinks they're the winner in the trade. Yeah,

884
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 3: that's how easy of a decision this was. Yes, for

885
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 3: LA the reason they've turned their season around a little

886
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 3: bit here is because of the defense, and Anthony Davis

887
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 3: is obviously the biggest part of that. But that's going

888
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 3: to be changing. I do like that Luca and uh

889
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 3: Dorian Finney Smith have a good relationship from their time

890
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 3: in Dallas, so he knows him. Obviously, JJ and Luca

891
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 3: played together in Dallas. Lebron and JJ had the podcast.

892
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 3: These guys are going to be doing everything they can

893
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 3: to make it work. They've got three good ball handlers.

894
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 3: The offense has looked better with Austin Reeves handling it

895
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 3: more so than Lebron, so I wonder like Lebron is

896
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 3: a decent off ball player now good catch and shoot

897
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 3: three point shooter. Because Luca will be the number one guy,

898
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 3: He'll be the guy handling the ball most of the time,

899
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 3: but there will be a little bit of an adjustment

900
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 3: period for figuring out how Reeves and Lebron fit around

901
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 3: him because that guy takes up such a huge portion

902
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 3: of possessions. Lebron has never played with a guy like

903
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 3: Luka Doncic who deserves the ball more than Lebron does.

904
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: That's never happened, wild Man.

905
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 2: You have any final thoughts, No final thoughts. I mean,

906
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 2: we will be doing another podcast on Monday. I'm sure

907
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: it's going to be all this really well.

908
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see how much more we learn, what else

909
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: trickles out behind the scenes. Can't wait. We will be

910
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: here Monday regardless doing our NBA weekend winners and losers

911
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: and probably talking a lot more about this. Let's hear

912
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: from you though, obviously sounding off right now in the

913
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Speaker 1: stream team on YouTube, but get in the comments your

914
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: thoughts on the trade. Who you think wins this? Do

915
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: the MAVs deserve an f that I saw a Pelton

916
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: drop on them too, which you don't see. You're right

917
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: very often from especially that guy. What do you think?

918
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: And where do we go from here? What's the next

919
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: domino to fall? As we get ready for the trade deadline,

920
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: which is, by the way, on Thursday. Oh my god,

921
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: what a setup, what a setup for I don't know

922
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 1: if this is gonna make it the most exciting trade

923
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: deadline of all the time. We're like, no way now,

924
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: it's like sort of like.

925
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Speaker 3: You don't count this as part of the trade deadline?

926
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Speaker 1: No I do. I do? Like, yes, But the most

927
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Speaker 1: upsiding ever, the impact it has on the other big

928
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: name the.

929
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Speaker 2: Other need sometimes Yeah, and also the most exciting All

930
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 2: Star game in a long, long time. Just because the

931
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: fact that everybody's got to trade teams and move on

932
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 2: and this is what they'll be talking.

933
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I wish Luca was an All Star this year though.

935
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: Yeah that sucks because we could have seen, like had

936
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: a little test run with Lebron and Luca getting drafted

937
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: in the same team.

938
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Speaker 2: And yeah, uh, they'll be talking about it. I'm glad

939
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: that the trade deadline happened before the All Star Game.

940
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 2: Used to be the flip. It wasn't as good ale.

941
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 2: This is a juicy All Star game.

942
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Speaker 1: All right, We're back on Monday. Until then, everybody, have

943
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: a great Sunday. Clipper bros.

944
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 3: You heard it here first, have a great time. Turn up.

945
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 3: Love you guys, awesome.

946
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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. And remember our men Zach Harper

947
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Speaker 2: at the Athletic gave the MAVs. See oh they passed fee.

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Speaker 1: Maybe somebody's get degrees. That's right. Embrace your Sunday people,