1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: Look, look, you gotta picture on a team. 2 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 2: Sure the pitch his name tomorrow. 3 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: You don't want to tell me to day. 4 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 3: I'm telling you about ahead tomorrow. 5 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 2: What time? 6 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: What time? 7 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 4: Why? 8 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: What time? 9 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 4: Tomorrow? 10 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 5: You gotta tell me who's pitching that listen, Oh is 11 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 5: not pitching. I would like your arm, your face, ron 12 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 5: An Aian. 13 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 6: But when I brought the car in for the oil 14 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 6: changed and he goes, yeah, it opens the doors, come 15 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 6: on in, I'm like where I'm gonna run something over? 16 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? 17 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 3: It was right, jeez, and my lion Tom. We had 18 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 3: every horizontal bench, top, toolbox, top, every spot in the shop. 19 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 3: There was nothing left to the car except the seats. Right, 20 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 3: I'm ready today. 21 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 4: Looks me. 22 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 3: That car doctor. We used to do a lot of 23 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 3: these crazy things. Of course, I'd have to warn Mama 24 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 3: I was working on the car at the house. Be 25 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 3: careful what you take out of the freezer, because it 26 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 3: may not be meat loaf. It might be a crank 27 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: center or a GM coil pack, which was common. 28 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: Hopefully you could tell the difference. 29 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 3: Well, hopefully, but sometimes they were in a rush. 30 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 5: Welcome to the radio home of ron Ananian, the car 31 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 5: Doctor since nineteen ninety one. 32 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 4: On. 33 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 5: This is where car owners the world overturned to for their. 34 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 3: Definitive opinion on automotive repair. 35 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 5: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 36 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 5: the phone and call in the garage doors are open, 37 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:13,919 Speaker 5: but I am here. 38 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: To take your call at eight five five five six 39 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: ninety nine hundred and now I go, oh, that's our 40 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 3: shut stop look. 41 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 4: Running. 42 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 3: Today's show is for Coach Keith over at CrossFit Bison. 43 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 3: He's one of my favorite coaches over there, and all 44 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: the role my favorite. 45 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 4: Really. 46 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: They all do a great job, but I love Coach 47 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: Keith his enthusiasm for baseball and this is his time 48 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: of year. He gets all excited. Pitchers and catchers are coming. 49 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: Spring is coming. You know, we're gonna make Ron run 50 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 3: again and you know, get him out there on the road. 51 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 3: It's just great. I like everything about it except the running. Well, 52 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: actually I embrace the run, so I'm teaching myself to 53 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: embrace the run. But yeah, hooray, it's a good time 54 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 3: for year. Uh, you know, Spring is coming, guys. Pictures 55 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 3: and catchers did report so and I love that. Having 56 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 3: a Costello skit, you know, it's really funny, asn't aside 57 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 3: before we get going today. You ever you ever talked 58 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: to the younger generation, and you know, you guys should 59 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 3: listen to Who's on first? And they go, who Who's 60 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: on first? Have an a costello? You know you're old 61 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 3: when they go, who's that? Oh my lord? 62 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 6: I remember years ago I was punching up. I hit 63 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 6: the old radio channel on Sirius XM. My daughter was 64 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 6: in the car and I said, and here came Who's 65 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 6: on First? And I said, you got to listen to this? 66 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 6: And I got the eye roll, you know, here comes 67 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 6: dad stuff. And she was in hysterics by the end 68 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 6: of the routine. 69 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 3: She loves it. Do you know they you know they 70 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: had lived that whole thing. 71 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: Do you know that? 72 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, well that was the That was the original. Yeah, 73 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 6: and they and they kept doing it throughout the years. 74 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 3: Right, And if you listen to some of the other ones, 75 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: there's there's little differences to them. The one that we 76 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,839 Speaker 3: hear is the most common. That was their best take 77 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 3: on that. But it's it's it's so hard to do. 78 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 3: I've I've watch people try and impersonate it at comedy 79 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: clubs and you know, little things and it's just they 80 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 3: were they were gifted. They were having a costello. I mean, 81 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: there's no other way to say it. So, but anyway, 82 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 3: we know who's on first here, it's me. I'm running 83 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 3: any in the car, doctor, and let's get over and talk. 84 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 3: Let's go talk to Matt. See what's going on. 85 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 2: Matt. 86 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: You're there, sir, Yes, I am, so tell me the story. 87 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm on second, So why. 88 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: Go ahead? 89 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: Okay, I've had a relationship with this van for about 90 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: eight years now, Okay, I got an O one Chevy Venture, 91 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: a three point four leader with about one hundred and 92 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: seventy five so on it. 93 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: Just wait, just wait, just broken in, brother, go ahead. 94 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: That's for sure. Yeah, the cooland fans aren't coming on 95 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: all right. I tested the relays. I even replaced one 96 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: US for good measure, and it's still nothing. I got 97 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: good voltage at the coolant temp sensor. I even replaced 98 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: the cool intemp sensor. Now the thermostat plugged up, so 99 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: I just changed that. But what's happening is if I 100 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: do direct battery to the fans through the relay, they work, right, 101 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, a jumper them. They work low speed and high. 102 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: But this control circuit one is the controls fan one, 103 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: and that's the one that isn't working. The only thing 104 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: I can think of is that I took the fuse 105 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: the top off the fuse box and took an O meter, 106 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: and I got kind of a weak connection on one 107 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: of the legs of the where the relay goes. The 108 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: other one seemed to be pretty I did one of 109 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: those with the O meter where you can hear the beep, okay, 110 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: and it was a strong beep on the other legs. Well, 111 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: we don't the other. 112 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 3: Well, wait a minute, now, we don't. We don't measure 113 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 3: resistance by beeps. Right, we're not gonna which one sounded louder. Okay, right, 114 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 3: we're gonna. We're gonna. We're gonna use our digital boltometer 115 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: and measure actual numbers. 116 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: Just to be fair, all right, Okay, So so that 117 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: that doesn't that doesn't really mean anything. Then if the 118 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: sound is fainter, yeah, I don't. 119 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 3: I don't know that. I buy that. I wanna, I wanna, 120 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 3: I want to. I want to look at I want 121 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: to look at numbers. So let me ask you this, 122 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 3: what kind of scan tool do you have? 123 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: Just an actron? It's got to be it's got to 124 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: be at ten years old. 125 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: Okay, can you go in your Make model? Can you 126 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 3: go into specific things your Make model or is it 127 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 3: you can? So if you look at this on your 128 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 3: Make model, does it have bi directional control? 129 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. 130 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 3: Okay, because we could, we could get you to the 131 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: simplest part of this problem real quick. Got to remember 132 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 3: my job, like if I'm fixing the car in the 133 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 3: bay or I'm talking to you here on radio is 134 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 3: I got to get you to the middle as fast 135 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: as I can. Agreed. Okay, So I'm gonna pull up 136 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: a scan tool. I'm gonna go to special functions. I'm 137 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: gonna go to buy directional control. Can I turn the 138 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: cooling fans on by scan tool? If I can turn 139 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 3: them on by scan tool? What have I proved? I 140 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 3: just proved the fuse in the circuit that's beeping is good. Right, 141 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 3: I proved the relays are good. I've proved continuity and 142 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 3: quality of circuit path is good. So the fans have 143 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 3: the ability to run. What you're doing is fine. You've 144 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 3: proven the fans can run, but you still haven't proven 145 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 3: the control side, right, You still haven't proved. So are 146 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 3: we up against a strategy problem or a component such 147 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 3: as a problem on the output pin of the PCM. 148 00:06:55,640 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 3: Now before we go there, all right, I'll leaven oh one, 149 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: and I'd have to go back and look at my 150 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: class notes because I remember sitting in class for this car. 151 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 3: All right, this car, this car has this was an 152 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 3: eye roll, all right. You know all I heard was 153 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: cooling fans, blah blah blah blah blah. This car operates 154 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 3: under load management load shed management, I think is what 155 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 3: they called it. And I kind of went, huh, So 156 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: if the body computer, since there's too much electrical load 157 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 3: that this vehicle is operating on, yep, it will prevent 158 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: cooling fans from coming on all together until some electrical 159 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 3: load is dissipated. So what can happen? 160 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 4: Yet? 161 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: It's it just I was like, well, what if it overheats? 162 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 3: I never got an answer to that question. That was yeah, 163 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 3: twenty four years ago, you know. So what you could 164 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 3: do is go in by scan tool and look at 165 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 3: the BCM. Look at the body computer. Is the load 166 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 3: management PID showing on or is it showing load management on? 167 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 3: Are active? Meaning that even though there isn't high electrical demand, 168 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: the BCM thinks there is, and it doesn't allow the 169 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: cooling fans to operate because if this has if this 170 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 3: vehicle is equipped with load shed management, the b CM 171 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 3: tells the PCM, the PCM tells the relay one, Relay 172 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 3: one tells relay two, and that's how the fans work. 173 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: Right. 174 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 3: So it's a strategy issue, not a component issue. 175 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: I got you all right, Okay, this BC, I've never 176 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,359 Speaker 1: heard of it. Okay, So this beast body control. 177 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: My body control body control module. 178 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so I'm going to try that through the 179 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: through the scan tool and seed. 180 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 4: So there's some of it. 181 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: Could it be a parasitic parasitical draw. 182 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: Well, no, there's no, because the battery is not going dead. No, 183 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: we don't have a battery going dead issue. This is 184 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: let's let's put it in simpler terms. If you stand 185 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 3: up and you want to take a walk, right, stand up, 186 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 3: take a walk, yep, your brain tells you you know, 187 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 3: you start off with your left foot, left foot, right foot, 188 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 3: left foot, right foot. If your brain, you know, without 189 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 3: you realizing it says hey, left foot, and you don't 190 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 3: put your left foot out, you fall over right, So 191 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 3: this is this that's a strategy your body works with 192 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: a strategy. It's just it's there. You just don't realize it. Well, 193 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 3: cars do the same thing, and they have for so 194 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 3: many years. Right, So if this vehicle is equipped and 195 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 3: not everyone had it, But if this vehicle is equipped 196 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 3: with load shed management and it thinks it's got too 197 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 3: high of an electrical load on the vehicle, it will 198 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 3: limit operation of certain components. One of them was cooling fan, 199 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 3: and it will prevent certain areas at times of cooling 200 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 3: fan to come on. So it's to limit correct operation 201 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 3: until some of that electrical load is dissipated. 202 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: I thought it was of all the things to limit 203 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: the cooling fan, I thought it was what I. 204 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 3: Thought it was the most. I thought it was the 205 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 3: stupidest thing I ever heard of my life until they 206 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 3: created start stop technology. But that's that's a whole other 207 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 3: conversation for it. But thank god that went away this week. 208 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 3: One of the few things the government's uh when they 209 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 3: get involved in order repair, somehow they always kind of 210 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 3: muck it up. But this time I agree with them. 211 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 3: I think the start stop and eliminating that is long overdue, 212 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 3: because I think you're going to see a lot of 213 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: people pick up from that. 214 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: So but anyway, so what do you think could what 215 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: do you think could be a possible overload? 216 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 3: I mean have you seen well, no, you're missing the point. 217 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: It may not be an overload. It just thinks it is. 218 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: And so so it's a bad BCM. Now, the test 219 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 3: was if you if you get out a wiring diagram 220 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 3: and find the data line to the BCM, and it 221 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 3: varies by vehicle how it's equipped. The test was it 222 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 3: was disconnecting the data line and if the cooling fans 223 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 3: come on with upper temperature, that means that the BCM 224 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 3: lost its authority. The PCM was acting on its own, 225 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: and that means it's a bad BCM. 226 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: Okay, where is the BCM that Yeah. 227 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 3: It's probably under the dash somewhere. I'd have to look 228 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 3: at a wiring diagram. They vary by vehicle, Maddie, all right, 229 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: So but you got some homework to do first. I 230 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 3: would tell you to get out a wiring diagram and 231 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 3: look through that vehicle and verify is it equipped BCM. 232 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 3: Does the cooling fan wiring go through the BCM. This 233 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 3: should be part of the computer network. And from there 234 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 3: do a little reading on load shed management. I don't 235 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: know that your scan tool is going to have it, 236 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 3: but at least it gets you in that direction. And 237 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 3: if you can activate the cooling fans to prove that 238 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 3: circuit control is there, then I think you're into a 239 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 3: strategy or a component such as a BCM failure is 240 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 3: what's going on. So good luck, Kitto. Let me know 241 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 3: what you need and we'll do our best. I'm running 242 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 3: ady in the car doctor. We are back right after this. 243 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: God, that's right. 244 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 6: If you call and we're not live, you can leave 245 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 6: a message and we'll call you back to get you 246 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 6: on the air with Ron eight five five five six 247 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 6: zero nine nine zero zero. Speaking of Ron, there he is. 248 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 3: Hey, let's go to Bruce in Utah. Bruce, Welcome to 249 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 3: the car doctor, sir. What's going on? 250 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Ron. I'm listening to thank you for your 251 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 2: advice on a part and find that I had a 252 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: seventy eight Mercury Marquee ten thousand miles on. It hadn't 253 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 2: been started in forty years. So as immaculate as the 254 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,599 Speaker 2: car is inside. Now, we knew nothing was going to 255 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: be worn out, but it was going need a lot 256 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 2: of things. Yeah, yeah, so you know, we we dropped it. 257 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,599 Speaker 2: We dropped the fuel tank and had it cleaned and 258 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: coated and blew out the fuel lines, replaced the fuel pump, 259 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: pop the pop the plugs. Let's oil sit in the 260 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: in the holes overnight, right and it turned great by hands. 261 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: So we just take it up and it started on 262 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: the first try. 263 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 3: Isn't that amazing? 264 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 4: Yeah? 265 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 2: Yeah it was. And uh so the next thing was 266 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: there was barnacles in the radiator, so we sent that 267 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 2: out to be record and while it was out, we 268 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 2: replaced the fuel of the water pump and the brake 269 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 2: pedal went to the floors. So the master cylinder was 270 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 2: bad leaked into the boosters. We had to do all that. 271 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: All the wheel cylinders were leaking, and so we had 272 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 2: to do that and replace pads and pads and shoes 273 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: and uh we got a brand new car. 274 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 3: But how many how many? How much you think you 275 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 3: have in that car? Bruce Solar was too much? 276 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 2: Too much? 277 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: Well? 278 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: Is it? 279 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 4: Is it? 280 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 3: What's the point I'm going to make? What do you 281 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: think is in that he got ten grand in that car? 282 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I paid eighty five hundred for the 283 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 2: budget to get it running was five and I'm I'm 284 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 2: in it about uh, put about nine in it, so 285 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: I had to put new tires on it, of course, 286 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: So you know, I'm in the high teens with it. 287 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: But you know, the car's absolutely immaculate. The inside didn't 288 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: even need dusted. 289 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 3: But isn't the bigger story here too? So let's say 290 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: you're into the car for eighteen right. See, you got 291 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 3: eighteen grand into this car. But it's, as you say, 292 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 3: a solid mechanical car from a generation that we clearly 293 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 3: know how to fix. Right. It's forty year old technology, right, 294 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: you know, and short of maybe having a hard time 295 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 3: finding certain parts, it's not an eighty thousand dollars car, no, no. 296 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: But you know it's it turns heads. People stop me 297 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: to take pictures of it. It can be a pain 298 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: sometimes because everybody wants to talk about it. But it's 299 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: an absolutely amazing car, and I'm in love with it, 300 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 2: as you can tell, and appreciate your advice. 301 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 3: Very welcome. 302 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: It was it was it was the foundate roch. 303 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 3: Let me ask Let me ask you this, Bruce, is 304 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: is that your everyday car, that Mercury Grandmarque? So so 305 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 3: what do you what do you drive? What are you driving? Monday? 306 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: Through Friday. That semi okay, fair, that's fair, that's fair. 307 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: So but you know I I have a Dodge Diesel 308 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: one ton that that and you know, and uh, that's well, 309 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: that's an No. Nine with seventy five thousand. And I've 310 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: got a twenty four year old Jeep Cherokee with a 311 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 2: straight six and it's got one hundred and six thousand. 312 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: And you know, I have old stuff. 313 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 3: We the twenty four jeep isn't old, but yeah, I 314 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 3: get it. Yeah, two thousand and one, oh, two thousand one. Okay. 315 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,239 Speaker 3: How many miles a year do you drive, Bruce. 316 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: Well in the big truck. It's close to one hundred. 317 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: But I'm putting on. 318 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 3: Right right, right, right, yeah, crazy, Well, listen, as long 319 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 3: as you're as long as you're enjoying the car, that's 320 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 3: what counts. 321 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. 322 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 4: Man. 323 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: The gal that sold it to me, Belonger Dad, she 324 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: cried when she she cried when she sold it to me, 325 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 2: and who he's kept in contact. 326 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 3: She's just remember this, it's not really your car, you 327 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 3: know that, right. 328 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 2: It'll be it'll be around one I'm long. 329 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 3: God right, well, and that's and that's and that's my point. 330 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 3: You know, this week I was able to mount. In 331 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 3: nineteen seventy two, Chevy, Monty, Carlos and Chevelle's had a 332 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 3: rear window to foger all right, the car sold it 333 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 3: did not have an electric grid in the back window. 334 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 3: It had a defogger. It had a blower motor mounted 335 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 3: inside the truck that you turned on from a switch 336 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 3: on the dash Now, you could also purchase it as 337 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 3: an option that the dealer would install or the factory 338 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 3: would install, depending upon when you ordered it. But to 339 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 3: install it, you have to cut a hole in your 340 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 3: dashboard and you got to be right because there's no 341 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 3: second guessing this. And it's about an intant a quarter 342 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 3: size hole that has to be positioned just right next 343 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 3: to the radio, not too high, not too low. It's 344 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 3: got to have the right clearance. And I did that 345 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 3: this week, and I'm here to tell you that number one. 346 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 3: The satisfaction of being able to get that to mount 347 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 3: properly and it's smooth, and I made a template at 348 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 3: a plexiglass and all. But as I'm working on it, 349 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 3: I'm going it's not really my car. I'm just the 350 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 3: caretaker at this moment, and I'm just going to pass 351 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 3: it on to the next generation. 352 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: But it's beautiful to know that we can do that. Right, Well, 353 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 2: everybody else gets to enjoy it. Yep. 354 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 3: Well listen on the back of the dashboard, because I 355 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 3: have the dash out on the back of the dashboard. 356 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 3: After I drilled the switch, I wrote him a note. 357 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 3: I said, Ron drilled this hole, and I dated it 358 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 3: eight month and year, and they'll know Ron was there, 359 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 3: kind of like Kilroy was here. I don't have to 360 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 3: think of the symbol I want for that. Anyway, I'm 361 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 3: running ady in the car. Doctor. Good to talk to you, Bruce. 362 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 3: Thanks for the follow up. 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Anyway, 400 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 3: back to the phones, Let's go to Chris in Wisconsin, 401 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 3: and Chris, I appreciate you. Let me get that in there. 402 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 3: So how can I help you today? What's going on? 403 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:32,239 Speaker 2: Hi? 404 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 4: Ron? 405 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 7: I am calling to say many thanks to you for 406 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 7: your advice. I had called January tenth with twenty twenty 407 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 7: three Chrysler PACIFICA that we had recently purchased from a 408 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 7: dealer and it would have starting issues in the cold, 409 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 7: and you recommended that. You asked me if it had 410 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 7: starting stop and I had, Oh. 411 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 3: This was the this was the Pop Pop Pop under 412 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 3: the hood car. Yes it was, Yeah, I remember this car. Yeah, 413 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 3: nobody could fix it. Everybody was. It was going to 414 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 3: the dealer and this guy and that guy, and everybody 415 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 3: was kind of confused. Oh, got it got fixed. It 416 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 3: was the auxiliary battery. 417 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 7: Yes, And armed with your information, I called the dealer 418 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 7: that Monday morning and said this is what you need 419 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 7: to do and know if sands or butts. 420 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 4: And. 421 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 7: After some back and forth, they agreed to let me 422 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 7: take it to their Chrysler dealer, which was seventy miles away. 423 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 7: They gave me a loaner for free. They replaced the 424 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 7: auxiliary battery because that was they said it was do. 425 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 3: How could the dealer not know about the auxiliary Well, 426 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 3: I well, because I had bought. 427 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 7: It at Kia dealer. It was a trade in, so 428 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 7: it wasn't a car they would be real familiar with. 429 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 3: I guess, oh, okay, right, okay. 430 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 7: But then they let me take it to their affiliated 431 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 7: workshop or car repair shop nearby, which does work on Chryslers, 432 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 7: because they had a Chrysler. 433 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 4: For sale. 434 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 7: Of the same year but with more mileage. So I thought, well, 435 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 7: they must know what they're doing. But obviously they just 436 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 7: had repaired or had replaced the main battery. So when 437 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 7: I took it to this dealer seventy miles away, they 438 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 7: replaced the auxiliary battery and then said the main battery 439 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 7: need to be charged, and they charged it and then 440 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 7: they tested it and it failed, so they put in 441 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 7: a third main battery and the sales TRUP said they 442 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 7: put in OEM batteries, which should be better. But I 443 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 7: made sure to schedule it when that we were having 444 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 7: like sub zero temperatures. And I brought it to them 445 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 7: on a Monday and I said, I'm not getting this 446 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 7: car until Saturday. And you started every single day, you know, 447 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 7: in this cold weather, leave it outside and make sure 448 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 7: it doesn't pop. And they said they did and that 449 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 7: it didn't. And so I've had it back for three 450 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 7: weeks and have not had a single starting it. 451 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 3: Excellent. I'm so happy for you, you know. And the 452 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 3: issue here is and this is what you know. The 453 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 3: government this week did away with EPA regulatory credits on 454 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 3: start stop where it's it's it's it's no longer there's 455 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 3: no car manufacturers will no longer receive credits against energy 456 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 3: points because of start Stop. So you're going to see 457 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 3: the way cars are built change now, and you're going 458 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 3: to you're going to see I think you're going to see. 459 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 3: I don't think you'll see start stop completely disappear. But 460 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 3: it's not it's not mandatory or an advantage, so I 461 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 3: don't think you're going to see as much of it. 462 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 3: But here's a perfect example, right that you know that 463 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,959 Speaker 3: you've got an older vehicle, it's three years old. Now 464 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 3: you had to put a battery in it. It's not 465 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,959 Speaker 3: just one battery, it's two batteries. And if you had 466 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 3: to pay for that retail up front, that battery battery ease, 467 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 3: I should say, is probably the better part of a 468 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 3: seven hundred dollars bill. 469 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: I believe it. 470 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 3: I believe all right, So you know it's and here's 471 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 3: my argument. We've taken we've taken automobiles to the point. 472 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 3: You know, I look at when I repair cars in 473 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 3: the shop every week, and I look at the cost 474 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 3: of things. We were doing hoses on an older Ford 475 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 3: the other day. The lower radiator hose from Ford was 476 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 3: one hundred and eighteen dollars a radiator hose. And I 477 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 3: you know, who's going to be able to afford cars 478 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 3: in the next five years. It's it's it's it's gotten 479 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 3: to that stage. You know, we all kid about it, 480 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 3: but we accept fifty thousand dollars. Well you don't accept it, 481 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 3: but we you know, we all hear stories it's fifty 482 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 3: grand to go buy a car today, right, you know 483 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 3: that doesn't make any sense I sound like my mother. 484 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 3: I remember when my first house was ninety five thousand dollars. 485 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 3: That was a little while ago, but you get the point. 486 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 3: You know, it's it's it's things are just that of bounds. 487 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 3: But I'm glad it worked out for you, Chris to 488 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 3: come back to center. I'm glad it worked out for 489 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 3: you that the car is running well, and you know, 490 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 3: just stay on top of it and do your maintenance, 491 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 3: do your service like you're supposed to, and find a 492 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 3: good mechanic that understands that vehicle and okay, it'll come 493 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 3: back to help you. 494 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. 495 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 7: I have a wonderful independent mechanic. So I'm thrilled about that. 496 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 7: Good And like I said, without you giving me that information, 497 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 7: I had no way to argue with the dealer that 498 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 7: you know, this is what needed to be done, and 499 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 7: I had no clue you know what needed to be done. 500 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad I was able to help. 501 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: I mean that, Yeah, so it really was he. 502 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 7: So I appreciate it immensely. 503 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 3: You're very welcome. You're very welcome. 504 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,479 Speaker 7: Ache, Well, that ache that's passed. 505 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 3: There's you know, it hasn't changed in the fifty years 506 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 3: I'm driving and working on cars, but there's nothing like 507 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 3: going out and hitting the key and having a reliable 508 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 3: car that starts every time. Yeah, there's there's a comfort 509 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 3: to that, so you know that you can depend on 510 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 3: that piece of machinery. Chris, I have to go, but 511 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 3: I want to say it was a pleasure and you 512 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 3: be well, and I'm glad your car is working for 513 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 3: you and doing what it's supposed to do. You need anything, 514 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 3: you know where to find us A five five, five, 515 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 3: six oh nine nine zero zero. I'm running dy in 516 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 3: the car doctor. I'll be back right after this. Hey, 517 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 3: here we go. Let's go to Stephen Boston twenty three 518 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 3: f one fifty. What's going on, Stephen? 519 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,479 Speaker 2: How you doing all right? Man? 520 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 4: I called you right before you have Christmas break, okay, 521 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 4: and I know you were off the year the following week, 522 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 4: so I called you and you gave me tremendous advice, 523 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 4: which worked really well. I mentioned that I had a 524 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 4: Cadillact converter, like, come on, you guided me with the 525 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 4: There was a recall on that year for the Cadillact converta. So, 526 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 4: taking your advice, I went to Ford and unfortunately, although 527 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 4: it was twenty twenty three, it was twenty twenty two 528 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 4: to twenty twenty three that the recall. My truck was 529 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 4: made after the recall cut off. So beauty of the 530 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 4: story is it didn't fall under the recall, but it 531 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 4: fell under the warranty. 532 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 2: Right. 533 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 4: We only had forty two thousand miles. 534 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 3: Right, because a catalytic converter. Catalytic converters are pretty much 535 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 3: eight eighty across the board for manufacturers, and and I 536 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 3: believe most manufacturers are still eight eighty for PCMs powertrain 537 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 3: control modules, the main engine computer. 538 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 4: So you know. 539 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 3: But good, So it worked out, So you got you 540 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 3: got free catalytics, and uh yes, And. 541 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 4: I just wanted to come because you had said to me, oh, 542 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 4: call back and let me know how it works out, 543 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 4: and I said I would. 544 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 3: Yep, I appreciate that. 545 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 4: And I just think you you guided me in the 546 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 4: right direct because I would have never thought to go 547 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 4: to the dealer. 548 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 3: Well, I never thought, you know. And it's it's sad, 549 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 3: isn't it, those Steve. I mean think about I'm thinking 550 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 3: about the calls I've gotten this hour. One was you know, 551 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 3: the Chris with the batteries on her car. Two batteries 552 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 3: at the dealer don't know how to be replaced. You're 553 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 3: having catalytic converter problems. This is a twenty three and 554 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 3: a twenty three model your vehicle a twenty two model 555 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 3: year vehicle. We had somebody else with a with with 556 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 3: less than fifty thousands. You know, are the new cars 557 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 3: just made worse? Are they having more repair problems that 558 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 3: they're being recalled? And you know, it just makes you think, 559 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 3: are you better off dry having an older car and 560 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 3: doing more repairs? I don't know. I haven't made up 561 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 3: my mind anymore. 562 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was a little disappointed in food in this 563 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 4: manner that they knew they had a problem, but they 564 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 4: continue to put the Cadillact converters in the newer vehicles. 565 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 4: Were they taking a chance that they would outlast the warranty? 566 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 4: I don't know. But when they told me, oh, it 567 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 4: don't fall under the the recall, you know, I got 568 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 4: kind of upset, like, but do you mean it didn't 569 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 4: but it fell under the warranty? Yeah, so I did 570 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 4: get it for free, but it just surprised me that 571 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 4: they were continuing to use faulty Cadillact converters. 572 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 3: Yes, it's it's well because the line never stops. My friend, 573 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 3: you got to understand that, you know, it's it's the 574 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 3: line never stops. I've had friends that have worked on 575 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 3: the assembly lines for cars. I know people whose parents 576 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 3: have worked in the assembly lines for cars. I've heard 577 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 3: store where, you know, back in the day when they 578 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,719 Speaker 3: shipped cars by train, which I don't know that they 579 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 3: do that much of anymore, maybe, but I know one 580 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 3: plant in particular, the freight train rolled in one side 581 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 3: of the plant and rolled out the other with the 582 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 3: cars loaded. And one day, in the middle of winter, 583 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 3: the door stuck open. Right, it's snowing out, it's it's 584 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: ten degrees, and you know it's it's blowing directly on 585 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 3: workers in that area of the factory. You got five 586 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 3: minutes to get to your locker, get your coat, and 587 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 3: report back to your station. The line never stops. And 588 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 3: and that's and that's just the way they are. And 589 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 3: then it's funny because the line never stops. And then 590 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 3: they get to the end of the model you're running, 591 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 3: they have all these leftovers and they don't know what 592 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 3: to do with them. So I you know, maybe the 593 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 3: line should stop, you know, show some compassion for humanity. 594 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 3: But well, listen, I'm glad it worked out for you. 595 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 3: Stay on top of the oil changes, do the maintenance, 596 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 3: and you should get you know, you should get some 597 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 3: decent mileage out. 598 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 4: Of the vehicle. Yeah, I wanted to close the loop that. Yes, 599 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 4: you definitely have you suggest it to call back, give 600 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 4: you an update. I did, and I just want to 601 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 4: thank you again. And I listened to your program quite often. 602 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, Steve. You know what that's that's after 603 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 3: all these years. This is the kind of stuff that 604 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 3: makes me realize, what the heck, Tom, let's do another 605 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 3: thirty years. We'll just keep going there. So yeah, all right, Steven, listen, 606 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 3: you have yourself a great rest of the weekend. Yes, sir, 607 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 3: very very welcome. Thank thank you so much, and we're 608 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 3: happy to be here for you. And you know that's 609 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 3: another thirty years. Yeah, I don't get time off for 610 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 3: good behavior. I don't know what else would we do. 611 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 3: I you know, listen, when COVID happened and I had 612 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 3: to come home for three weeks, well it was only 613 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 3: three weeks, everybody else had six. But my wife threw 614 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 3: me out after three because pretty soon the house is 615 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 3: organized like the shop. You know, it's you know, you 616 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 3: ought to see what I did to that silverware draw 617 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 3: just like lining up wrenches, you know, forkknife, fork knife, 618 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 3: fork knife? Who put that spoon in there? 619 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 2: Throw that out? 620 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 3: Okay? Fork knife, forknife, fork knife. I don't think I 621 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 3: could sit home, Tom. I don't think it's in my 622 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 3: nature either. 623 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 624 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 3: I did drive me nuts, Yeah, drive me nuts. I 625 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 3: still think to me, I am to me, I am 626 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 3: in retirement. I've never really worked in my life because 627 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 3: I've enjoyed every minute of it. So in any event, 628 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 3: eight five five five six nine nine zero zero, let's 629 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 3: pull over and take our last break. We'll return after 630 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 3: this to wrap it up. Don't go anywhere winding it 631 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 3: down this hour. I want to leave you with a 632 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 3: couple of things. First of all, from my buddy Dodge 633 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 3: down there. He wrote in and he sent us an 634 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 3: email about first brands funding. We're talking about this over 635 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 3: the last two weeks that there's a report out that 636 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 3: Ford is trying to prop up first brands, first brands funding, 637 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 3: first brands autoparts. If you recall a couple of weeks ago, 638 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 3: we talked about how first brands. You know, the head 639 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 3: of rabestis Wagner Moog auto lights, so many, so many 640 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 3: brands that we've come to know in the auto repair 641 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 3: industry and common to us. First brands filed for bankruptcy 642 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 3: because of some fraud. Evidently that was put on Pond 643 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 3: by its CEO and the one of the vice presidents there. 644 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 3: They've been indicted in Manhattan Federal court now for defrauding 645 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 3: lenders at of billions of dollars. But it's had to 646 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 3: declare bankruptcy. It's affected the auto industry. Ford has stepped 647 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 3: up and GM too. I'm told to put some funding 648 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 3: into this company to help keep it afloat because we 649 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 3: need parts and not being able to get parts is 650 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 3: a problem. So kudos to them and thanks Dodge is 651 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 3: always for keeping us informed, helping to be my reporter 652 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 3: on the street as it were. Start Stop We talked 653 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 3: a little bit about start stop this hour this week 654 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,959 Speaker 3: and start stop technology. That's that annoying when you get 655 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 3: to the traffic light in the corner, the car shuts 656 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 3: off and then it restarts. Well, the EPA has eliminated 657 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 3: the regulatory off cycle credits big words, but they've basically 658 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 3: eliminated credits for the auto manufacturers for equipment vehicles with 659 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 3: start stop and it helped the manufacturers meet their greenhouse 660 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 3: gas and fuel economy targets. Well, now they're gonna have 661 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 3: to find other ways to do it. It's not necessary 662 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 3: that they do that, and in a lot of cases 663 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 3: it was more of a detriment than a help. We 664 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 3: see we're now seeing because start stop's been out there 665 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 3: for so long, we're now seeing older engines suffer from 666 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 3: problems with variable valve timing components. Variable valve timing components 667 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 3: are like a big sprocket that are spring loaded on 668 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 3: the inside, so they can change position based on oil 669 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 3: pressure as it's applied to change camshaft timing. Think of 670 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 3: a bicycle where that bicycle sprocket is in terms of 671 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 3: building power, and it's affecting VVT component life cycles and lifespans, 672 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,959 Speaker 3: and that can become a six thousand dollars repair trying 673 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 3: to save emission. So I don't know, they're getting going 674 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 3: to start stopped, Isn't isn't the worst idea in the world. 675 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 3: I think it's probably a good one. We'll see where 676 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 3: it goes. So that's happened this week. Also, I want 677 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 3: to leave you with this last thought. I know it's 678 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 3: tough out there. Whether you're a shop owner, whether you're 679 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 3: a technician, or whether you're the consumers. We're all trying 680 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 3: to understand the process going forward of water repair. Know 681 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 3: that the good ones are really working hard to try 682 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 3: and make this all work, and you can be part 683 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 3: of that. So if you can't pass it along, be 684 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 3: kind to be aware of each other. Take some hope 685 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 3: from that, and know that whatever you're facing, you can 686 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 3: do it. Like I always say, fix the broken car 687 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 3: in front of you. It's a job well taken until 688 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 3: the next time I'm on an ay and the car doctor. 689 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 3: The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.