WEBVTT - Microdrone Soup

0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff

0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind.

0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:16.759
<v Speaker 1>My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Julie Douglas. And

0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Julie know it's been in the news recently. Weener's weener.

0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:24.119
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, yeah, but but then below the headline, Okay, yes, yes, uh,

0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:31.160
<v Speaker 1>very important technological advances about drones. Yeah, tiny robots rootsiny

0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:34.000
<v Speaker 1>robots that could be the the proverbial fly on the

0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:40.199
<v Speaker 1>wall on the proverbial wall in the room where But

0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:42.680
<v Speaker 1>we wouldn't necessarily want that. I think that we have

0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:46.559
<v Speaker 1>enough media streaming about him. We don't necessarily need a

0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:50.720
<v Speaker 1>microdrone hanging out in his bedroom exactly. Yeah. Um, but yeah,

0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's The New York Times had a

0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:56.520
<v Speaker 1>great article called war evolves with drones. Some Tinese bugs

0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:02.480
<v Speaker 1>and also the larger, more conventional drones were recently in

0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:05.600
<v Speaker 1>the news. They were the ones that gathered intelligent on

0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Osama bin Lan's Pakistani hideaway using one of the new

0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:13.920
<v Speaker 1>stealth drones. Uh So, this is the technology that is

0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:16.640
<v Speaker 1>getting a lot of traction these days, and it's pretty important.

0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:21.120
<v Speaker 1>And the microdrone thing is incredibly cool. And definitely feeds

0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:24.800
<v Speaker 1>into my paranoia about privacy and your paranoia is that

0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:27.560
<v Speaker 1>tiny robots are listening to every word you say and

0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:31.760
<v Speaker 1>watching you change clothes or something. Yes, yeah, yeah, perv

0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:35.720
<v Speaker 1>tiny probos outside my window wearing little trench coats. Well

0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:40.440
<v Speaker 1>it's uh, it's interesting, um talking about paranoia because Iran,

0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:43.280
<v Speaker 1>that the government of Iran has A has shown some

0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:46.360
<v Speaker 1>paranoid that and I'm not saying it's it's uh, it's

0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:50.800
<v Speaker 1>it's it's bad paranoia because uh that they've they've been uh,

0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:52.800
<v Speaker 1>there've been a couple of stories in the last few years.

0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:58.640
<v Speaker 1>In two thousand eight, they they arrested a quote arrested

0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:02.040
<v Speaker 1>to pigeons that were a suspected of spying near a

0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:05.760
<v Speaker 1>uranium and richmon facility. And in two thousand seven, fourteen

0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:08.799
<v Speaker 1>squirrels were supposedly captured. That we're armed with state of

0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:13.000
<v Speaker 1>the art espionage equipment, um, which they sound ridiculous arresting

0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:16.720
<v Speaker 1>squirrels and and uh and and pigeons. But but the

0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:19.040
<v Speaker 1>charge was here that these were animals that had been

0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.560
<v Speaker 1>geared up with some sort of espionage equipment and were

0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.560
<v Speaker 1>being used by an outside force, probably the United States,

0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:29.880
<v Speaker 1>to see what they were doing. So, but imagine that

0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.840
<v Speaker 1>that paranoia taking a step farther to where it's where

0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:35.359
<v Speaker 1>it's the paranoia is that the squirrels may not actually

0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:38.760
<v Speaker 1>be squirrels. They may be robots. The birds maybe robots

0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:41.639
<v Speaker 1>spying on us. The bugs may actually be robots spying

0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:45.200
<v Speaker 1>on our every move and uh and if and certainly

0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:48.520
<v Speaker 1>if you're a country like Iran, uh, this could be

0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:50.800
<v Speaker 1>a very well possibility in the near future. Well, and

0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:52.919
<v Speaker 1>also think that the context too, I mean with stuck

0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.920
<v Speaker 1>snut in Iran, which we know is the computer virus

0:02:56.040 --> 0:03:01.520
<v Speaker 1>that was developed to essentially like bring down the nuclear capacity,

0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:04.160
<v Speaker 1>shut down the system. So you can understand why they

0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:06.360
<v Speaker 1>might take help look around a park and start to

0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.080
<v Speaker 1>get a little bit paranoid about the nearest chipmunk, right,

0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:12.320
<v Speaker 1>especially since this is where the technology has been headed

0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:16.400
<v Speaker 1>and and where it's continuing to to to head with

0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:19.840
<v Speaker 1>with with some real impressive speed. Yeah, and when we

0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:22.600
<v Speaker 1>talk about a drone, let's and particularly a microdrone, let's

0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.400
<v Speaker 1>talk about what this is. This is essentially a super

0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:30.959
<v Speaker 1>fancy remote controlled plane, and it's an unmanned aerial vehicle, yes,

0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:36.360
<v Speaker 1>generally with some degree of autonomy. Um, there's a there's

0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:39.560
<v Speaker 1>an important distance. Like the most famous examples are the

0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Predator and the and the Reaper, which are have been

0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:48.200
<v Speaker 1>just to stand out aerial drones for the U. S. Military. Uh.

0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:50.320
<v Speaker 1>And we have an article on on both of these

0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:52.280
<v Speaker 1>on the House Stuff Work website. So if you go

0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:53.720
<v Speaker 1>to the House Touff House Stuff Works, go to the

0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:56.080
<v Speaker 1>search bar, putt in Predator or put in a Reaper,

0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:58.680
<v Speaker 1>and you'll you'll get a really nice article. Yeah, and

0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.160
<v Speaker 1>it'll tell you everything under the because we're not going

0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:03.120
<v Speaker 1>to really go into the hood with these in this podcast.

0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:06.520
<v Speaker 1>But but they are really cool. Um, I mean just

0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:09.200
<v Speaker 1>the technology, you know, not any judgments on how they're used.

0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:14.120
<v Speaker 1>But but but it's really interesting technology. So uh, it

0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:16.680
<v Speaker 1>basically comes down to all these things are what we

0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:20.640
<v Speaker 1>call in in the loop system. Okay, so they're not

0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:22.599
<v Speaker 1>they're not really robots out there, you know. You know,

0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:25.040
<v Speaker 1>you're not creating a machine and saying, hey, go out

0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.360
<v Speaker 1>and kill go out and do this job and then

0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:28.919
<v Speaker 1>come back and tell me how it went. On the

0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:31.960
<v Speaker 1>other hand, it's not a guy setting there you know,

0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:35.839
<v Speaker 1>uh and controlling it the whole time. It's uh, it's

0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:39.240
<v Speaker 1>programmed to a certain degree. Yeah, it's it's essentially someone

0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.800
<v Speaker 1>who's at at the controls to uh, to dictate the

0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.800
<v Speaker 1>application of lethal force. Right, So it's kind of a

0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:51.080
<v Speaker 1>hybrid between autonomy and remote control and UH. That's basically

0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.480
<v Speaker 1>the state of these U A vise, these UM, these

0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:58.280
<v Speaker 1>amand aerial vehicles that that are out there really in

0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:02.080
<v Speaker 1>most of the skies over military zones that that the

0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:04.839
<v Speaker 1>US is engaged in, that's right, And they're there are

0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:08.040
<v Speaker 1>two different types. There's of surveillance drones, right, and there

0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:13.560
<v Speaker 1>are combat drones with missiles. Surveillance like the UM. It

0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:16.000
<v Speaker 1>would be like a predator just just seeing what the

0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:17.960
<v Speaker 1>ladle land is, right or or in this case what

0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.920
<v Speaker 1>we're talking with us and bin Laden used to tell

0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:24.479
<v Speaker 1>where a target is and then the means of reaching

0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:27.240
<v Speaker 1>that target may actually just be troops or Yeah. And

0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:31.120
<v Speaker 1>it's very unusual that they will use a combat drone

0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:35.600
<v Speaker 1>to take out UM like a compound like UM some

0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.040
<v Speaker 1>op in lands which they did not, but you know,

0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:40.880
<v Speaker 1>from time to time they've taken out all kind of members.

0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:43.760
<v Speaker 1>If they were say driving UM in a car, you know,

0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.560
<v Speaker 1>across the highway or whatever, they would use UM one

0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:50.120
<v Speaker 1>of these drones to blow up the car. But again

0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:53.320
<v Speaker 1>this is unusual. It's more likely used for surveillance. But

0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:57.279
<v Speaker 1>um obviously if it's a combat drone and it's got missiles,

0:05:57.360 --> 0:05:59.800
<v Speaker 1>then there's a higher level of engagement with the person

0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:05.760
<v Speaker 1>was controlling it. Um. So this is from a Wired article. Rather,

0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.360
<v Speaker 1>this is from their their Danger Roum, their blog. Um

0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.600
<v Speaker 1>it says unmanned aerial vehicles are huge growth industry for

0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.200
<v Speaker 1>the US and its closest allies, and the source of

0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.680
<v Speaker 1>one of America's greatest military advantages. Starting in the mid

0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:20.760
<v Speaker 1>ninety nineties, the unarmed Predator drone helped the US build

0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:25.479
<v Speaker 1>an unprecedented persistent surveillance system capable of spotting targets around

0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:29.039
<v Speaker 1>the clock. Later, armed with missiles, the Predator became an

0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:33.680
<v Speaker 1>aerial sniper, picking off hundreds of of insurgents in Iraq, Afghanistan,

0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:37.840
<v Speaker 1>and Pakistan every year. So the Pentagon has scores of

0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:42.760
<v Speaker 1>communication satellites for linking drones and ground troops and imagery analysts.

0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:47.200
<v Speaker 1>And the Pentagon now has some seven thousand aerial drones

0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:50.400
<v Speaker 1>compared with fewer than fifty just a decade ago. So,

0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:52.599
<v Speaker 1>as you can see, this is a really important part

0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:57.320
<v Speaker 1>of how the US is is uh, sort of trying

0:06:57.360 --> 0:07:00.280
<v Speaker 1>to figure out this war on terror as their calling it,

0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:03.560
<v Speaker 1>and just general security around the world. Yeah, I mean

0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.040
<v Speaker 1>the advantages here are huge. Um, just to run through

0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.720
<v Speaker 1>a few of them here, I mean most obviously, you

0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:12.240
<v Speaker 1>replace putting a soldier into a dangerous situation and uh,

0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:14.600
<v Speaker 1>and that's why there's there's there's a lot of effort

0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:18.120
<v Speaker 1>towards creating land based drone technology too, and there have

0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:21.880
<v Speaker 1>been a number of these have been tested, but nothing

0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.200
<v Speaker 1>is really the standard. It hasn't been standardized in the

0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.120
<v Speaker 1>same way that these U A v s or are

0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:30.520
<v Speaker 1>ruling the skies now. Um. Then, but another important thing

0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:35.040
<v Speaker 1>that reduces civilian casualties have used properly and if you

0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:38.720
<v Speaker 1>have sufficient ethical programming developed, which is that's kind of

0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.960
<v Speaker 1>like looking forward not so much now. Um. It also

0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:44.520
<v Speaker 1>acts as a looking forward to. It could act as

0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.800
<v Speaker 1>a force multiplier where um, you know, we talked about

0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:50.920
<v Speaker 1>this in the loop situation, Man in the loop where

0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.760
<v Speaker 1>there's a guy controlling it, uh, you know, and he's

0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:55.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna jump in and you know, do the fine tuning

0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.720
<v Speaker 1>or the application of lethal force. But they're they're talking

0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:01.720
<v Speaker 1>about eventually moving it towards a man on the loop

0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:05.880
<v Speaker 1>where you basically have like one guy manning a team

0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.720
<v Speaker 1>of robots. Um. So there'd be these like you know,

0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe six different U a v S mostly doing their

0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:14.480
<v Speaker 1>own thing, with one guy supervising and uh you know,

0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:17.720
<v Speaker 1>jumping into micro manage as need be. But that would

0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:20.000
<v Speaker 1>be a force multiplier because then you have one basically

0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:24.640
<v Speaker 1>have one combat pilot um in like six places at once,

0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:29.360
<v Speaker 1>which um so. And then then there are a number

0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:31.520
<v Speaker 1>of other advantages that that break down to the use

0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:35.520
<v Speaker 1>of robots in warfare, which is, uh, you don't have anger, revenge, hunger,

0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:40.280
<v Speaker 1>fear uh thrown in there with to to modify what's

0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:44.360
<v Speaker 1>going on in the battlefield, um and uh. And it's

0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:47.560
<v Speaker 1>just and they can also generally make faster decisions than humans,

0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:51.599
<v Speaker 1>though that decision making process, of course, is something that

0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:55.600
<v Speaker 1>that requires a great deal of discussion. Yeah, there's been

0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:59.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of questions ethically around that. Right so, um

0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:03.439
<v Speaker 1>because there's this this growing disconnect between the American public

0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:06.559
<v Speaker 1>and its wars and the drone. Again, the advantages that

0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:08.599
<v Speaker 1>you're not putting anybody in harm's way, at least on

0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:12.000
<v Speaker 1>the American front, right, but there is again, that distance

0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:15.640
<v Speaker 1>between what is you know, what we're actually doing to

0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:19.080
<v Speaker 1>someone else and uh, you know, the decision making process.

0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:21.520
<v Speaker 1>So the farther the distance is, the easier it is

0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.040
<v Speaker 1>to sort of make that decision, right, right, It's I

0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:25.920
<v Speaker 1>mean it comes back to the thing where it just

0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:30.480
<v Speaker 1>makes waging war potentially easier and killing potentially easier, because

0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, on one hand, like what's the huge um like, like,

0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:36.599
<v Speaker 1>what's the worst thing that an army government engaged in

0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.800
<v Speaker 1>military activity wants to see? Uh? And that is uh,

0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.920
<v Speaker 1>images of coffins coming home with with dead servicemen and

0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.439
<v Speaker 1>women in it. You know, that's just that's like, you know,

0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:49.599
<v Speaker 1>pr nightmare. Things could be avoided. We've seen it, you know,

0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.640
<v Speaker 1>banned in the past. But but if you remove that,

0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:57.280
<v Speaker 1>where suddenly nothing there's like no risk to servicemen and women,

0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:00.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, suddenly there are minimal risk, Like like it

0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:04.800
<v Speaker 1>becomes a situation where the fear of one's own death

0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:06.959
<v Speaker 1>or the fear of death of of of one's you

0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:09.959
<v Speaker 1>one cares about, or just seeing the carnage you're not

0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.240
<v Speaker 1>going to see the carnage on your own side because

0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:14.840
<v Speaker 1>of all these robots. No, But of course the problem

0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:19.240
<v Speaker 1>is is that we've seen this time and again Afghanistan.

0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:24.360
<v Speaker 1>You have clian civilian casualties and um. The reason is

0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:27.720
<v Speaker 1>is that when when you've got this sort of technology,

0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:31.599
<v Speaker 1>it's essentially painting a target, the painting a target with

0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:34.679
<v Speaker 1>a laser. There there's a host of variables that the

0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:38.040
<v Speaker 1>computer has to calibrate the system for. So that includes wind, speed,

0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:42.880
<v Speaker 1>direction and other battlefield variables. So something can go wrong.

0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:45.400
<v Speaker 1>It's very possible in any technology, there's going to be

0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:48.400
<v Speaker 1>a margin of air and deaths are going to happen. Well,

0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:51.240
<v Speaker 1>even if it works perfectly, if you're you're using a

0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:55.800
<v Speaker 1>basically robotic army against human insurgents, humans are gonna die

0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:58.559
<v Speaker 1>on one side and robots will occasionally crash on the other.

0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:02.120
<v Speaker 1>And it's a there's a there's a certain there's a

0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:06.280
<v Speaker 1>large inequity there. Yeah. Yeah, And again the main problem

0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:09.839
<v Speaker 1>here is this question of autonomy as we go forward

0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:13.320
<v Speaker 1>with this technology, because it will become more and more autonomous, right,

0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:16.120
<v Speaker 1>this is the idea. I mean, you know, typically technology

0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:18.840
<v Speaker 1>doesn't go backward, right, so if we create a system

0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:22.520
<v Speaker 1>that is more enhanced that it can make more decisions

0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:24.800
<v Speaker 1>than the margin of error could possibly go up. And

0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:28.719
<v Speaker 1>we've talked with Dr Arkin from Georgia Tech before, who

0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:33.560
<v Speaker 1>is a robotics ethicist and uh in deals with warfare

0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.600
<v Speaker 1>and robots quite a bit, and he was talking about

0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:41.280
<v Speaker 1>programming robots with UM the Geneva protocol, right, Yeah, having

0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:45.840
<v Speaker 1>this ethnical ethical governor and the would they would dictate

0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:48.880
<v Speaker 1>how it's going to carry out it's it's military, right,

0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:50.480
<v Speaker 1>which makes sense. I mean, this is a this is

0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:52.760
<v Speaker 1>a good step forward, right because if you can program that,

0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:54.760
<v Speaker 1>if you can give the algorithm for for you know,

0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.120
<v Speaker 1>if and then then you can avoid some some of

0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:59.720
<v Speaker 1>the pitfalls. The problem is that people will point out

0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:03.120
<v Speaker 1>is a robots do not have a nuanced ability to

0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.800
<v Speaker 1>deal with emotions, and we know that emotions, for better

0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:09.880
<v Speaker 1>or worse, can guide our judgment. So you've you know,

0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:11.680
<v Speaker 1>on the one hand, you've got the passion of war

0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:16.160
<v Speaker 1>is reduced with these UM autonomous machines. But on the

0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:18.880
<v Speaker 1>other hand, you know, there's this empathy and so on

0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:21.199
<v Speaker 1>and so forth that sort of makes us humans and

0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:25.679
<v Speaker 1>human makes us UM create exceptions, is not there? Yeah,

0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:29.480
<v Speaker 1>And I mean modern warfare, especially such a chaotic situation,

0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.840
<v Speaker 1>and we're having there are enough obstacles and just creating

0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:36.360
<v Speaker 1>a robot that can navigate the human kitchen. Yeah, you know,

0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.559
<v Speaker 1>so it's uh, the the idea of creating a robot

0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:43.560
<v Speaker 1>that could they could seamlessly navigate the environment of war,

0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:49.679
<v Speaker 1>an environment that humans cannot even navigate without catastrophe is uh,

0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:52.480
<v Speaker 1>it is quite a hurdle to overcome. Yeah, and so

0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.440
<v Speaker 1>but you know, here we've got these micro drones, which

0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:59.600
<v Speaker 1>at this point they're not lengthal right, they're just surveilling. UM.

0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.760
<v Speaker 1>So to talk a little bit more about the micro

0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:07.079
<v Speaker 1>drones and less about UM drones like the predator, just

0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:10.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of consider this stat again, this is from Wired.

0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:14.679
<v Speaker 1>This is since September eleventh, UM, the hours the Air

0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Force devotes to flying missions for intelligent surveillance and reconnaissance

0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:21.720
<v Speaker 1>have gone up three thousand one, most of that from

0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:24.559
<v Speaker 1>increased operations of drones. Every day, the Air Force must

0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:28.280
<v Speaker 1>process almost fifteen hundred hours of full motion video and

0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:32.040
<v Speaker 1>another fifteen hundreds still images, much of it from predators

0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:36.200
<v Speaker 1>and reapers on around the clock combat air patrols. Okay,

0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:40.040
<v Speaker 1>that is a huge amount of data. Now consider this

0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:46.120
<v Speaker 1>micro aviary camouflage, this microdrone, UM, these you know, tiny

0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:49.160
<v Speaker 1>little drones that are being developed and how much data

0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:51.400
<v Speaker 1>they're going to be amassing. But before we talk about that,

0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.880
<v Speaker 1>we probably talk about just the micro aviary UM drone

0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:56.559
<v Speaker 1>because it's pretty cool. All Right, we're gonna take a

0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:58.040
<v Speaker 1>quick break and then we're gonna get back to all

0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:06.439
<v Speaker 1>of this. So hanging there one second. This presentation is

0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:13.640
<v Speaker 1>brought to you by Intel Sponsors of Tomorrow, and we're

0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:15.920
<v Speaker 1>back when we're talking about biomimicry trying to make a

0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:20.800
<v Speaker 1>drone that looks like a bird, flies like a bird,

0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.760
<v Speaker 1>or flies like an insect, depending on you know which

0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.680
<v Speaker 1>which direction they're going there. But this is fascinating in

0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:31.160
<v Speaker 1>that biomamicry is generally more involved in I want to

0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:34.720
<v Speaker 1>solve a problem, like an engineering problem or design problem

0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:37.520
<v Speaker 1>of some kind, instead of trying to create some sort

0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:40.120
<v Speaker 1>of like reinvent the wheel, I'm just gonna look at

0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:43.920
<v Speaker 1>the way um nature has solved this problem through millions

0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.440
<v Speaker 1>of years of evolution, So you know, it's stuff like

0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to make a swimsuit that allows the swimmer

0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:52.880
<v Speaker 1>to uh to move faster through the water. Uh. Instead

0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:54.680
<v Speaker 1>of just trying to come with something off the top

0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:57.400
<v Speaker 1>of my head, I'm going to look at how shark

0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:01.880
<v Speaker 1>skin has evolved right right, or um or fins. I'm

0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:05.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna look at dolphins and see how they can actually

0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.120
<v Speaker 1>like eject themselves into the air and so on and

0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:08.880
<v Speaker 1>so far. We actually have a couple of articles on

0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:11.480
<v Speaker 1>biomimicry on the website. If you go to house stuff

0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:13.880
<v Speaker 1>works dot com and just throw bio mimicry into the

0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.240
<v Speaker 1>search bar, you'll find a couple of them. I think

0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I may have written two of them. Probably did I

0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:21.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Yeah, we're a handful of them. Um. But

0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:25.160
<v Speaker 1>from my understanding that they are focusing more on insects

0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:28.640
<v Speaker 1>right now rather than birds. Um. And I'm assuming that

0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:31.240
<v Speaker 1>they've done birds so far because it's very hard to

0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:33.720
<v Speaker 1>get you know, smaller and smaller. But birds are a

0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:37.720
<v Speaker 1>little bit more difficult to mimic because of their musclature

0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.360
<v Speaker 1>and because of the energy it takes to get them.

0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:42.720
<v Speaker 1>That's the interesting thing about this, because most, like I say,

0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:44.480
<v Speaker 1>biomimicry is about I need to solve a problem, so

0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna see how nature did it right, This is

0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:48.520
<v Speaker 1>more about I mean, there's in robotics, there is that

0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:51.160
<v Speaker 1>there's also a lot of interest in how insects move

0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:54.080
<v Speaker 1>and behave because it's it's a sometimes it's a simple

0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:57.120
<v Speaker 1>cognitive model to look at in terms of how it's thinking.

0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:00.400
<v Speaker 1>And then also like you know, trying to create something

0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:03.320
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna move across the floor. Uh. Some oftentimes, like

0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.080
<v Speaker 1>a spider design just makes more sense than trying to

0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:09.720
<v Speaker 1>make it walk like a human. So but but in

0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:14.080
<v Speaker 1>this where they're trying to make a drone resemble the

0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:17.280
<v Speaker 1>animal form. Uh. And certainly when we're talking about something

0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:23.360
<v Speaker 1>that flies, uh, the nature is kind of forced to

0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:27.160
<v Speaker 1>follow this this winged model, this flapping winged model, which

0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.760
<v Speaker 1>is really not um all that that that doesn't make

0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:31.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of sense from an energy standpoint. It's not

0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.080
<v Speaker 1>you have to spend a lot of energy to flap

0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:38.200
<v Speaker 1>flap wings, but nature has not yet figured out how

0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.440
<v Speaker 1>to evolve the rotor blade, so so that they're they're

0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:44.520
<v Speaker 1>they're forced to flap. Um. But we've all seen stats

0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:46.520
<v Speaker 1>about like hummingbirds, about how much food they have to

0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:49.640
<v Speaker 1>consume and how much energy they blow through to flap

0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:53.840
<v Speaker 1>those tiny wings so fastbeats per minute or something crazy

0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:55.320
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, yeah, like some of them have to go

0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:59.200
<v Speaker 1>into basically a state of hibernation and every night just

0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:03.560
<v Speaker 1>because because they can't burn any more energy. Um, because

0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:07.080
<v Speaker 1>it's not energy efficient. So they're having to when creating

0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:10.800
<v Speaker 1>a flap of flapping winged robot Um, you're you're having

0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:16.440
<v Speaker 1>to pursue u an energy inefficient design when you could

0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:19.720
<v Speaker 1>really make a more energy eficient design being inspired by it.

0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.600
<v Speaker 1>They're actually trying to mimic it so that nobody can

0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:28.360
<v Speaker 1>tell that it's an actual robotic hummingbird spying on you, right, Um,

0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:31.440
<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of a disingenuous form of biomimicry. Yeah,

0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:35.280
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting. There's that the hummingbird drone that they unveiled. Um,

0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.640
<v Speaker 1>it's it's still a prototype, but it can rapidly beat

0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:42.280
<v Speaker 1>its wings and it can propel the at eleven miles

0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:44.920
<v Speaker 1>per hour and even perch on a window. So the

0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:47.320
<v Speaker 1>problem is when you look at it, you know, if

0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.120
<v Speaker 1>you just kind of if you glance it, didn't really

0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:51.560
<v Speaker 1>look at it carefully. Okay, yeah, there's I see a bird, right,

0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:56.240
<v Speaker 1>But when you look at it, it actually looks really inelegant.

0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:59.840
<v Speaker 1>It moves, you know, kind of awkwardly, it looks mechanical.

0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:03.520
<v Speaker 1>It reminds me completely of Biboo, the owl from Clash

0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.520
<v Speaker 1>of the Times. Yes, the robotic owl that does the

0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:09.280
<v Speaker 1>which I love, but I don't really think would make

0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:12.200
<v Speaker 1>a great microdone right because it's very obvious. Well plus

0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:14.400
<v Speaker 1>the hummingbird drone it says US Air Force on the wing.

0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:19.879
<v Speaker 1>It's giveaway. Yeah, a little obvious. Um, but I mean

0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:23.080
<v Speaker 1>they're they're important because these micro jones could be used

0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:26.280
<v Speaker 1>to get a much better view of myriad things like

0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:34.600
<v Speaker 1>natural disasters, floods, fires, Um, you know if the politicians. Yes, Um,

0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:37.880
<v Speaker 1>they're used in aerial photography and and they're even used

0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:41.840
<v Speaker 1>in wildlife footage which are seen in nature documentaries. So

0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:45.280
<v Speaker 1>and again, like you know, if a building implodes and

0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:47.840
<v Speaker 1>there's uh, you know a lot of debris. These are

0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:50.000
<v Speaker 1>things that we can use to get a better beat

0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:52.719
<v Speaker 1>on things. It's not just you know, used for warfare.

0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:56.600
<v Speaker 1>So they're really interesting and uh it kind of makes

0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:58.480
<v Speaker 1>me wonder like if one day we're all going to

0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:01.800
<v Speaker 1>have our very own micro own that we use, like

0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, in in conjunction with our an iPhone app,

0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:08.879
<v Speaker 1>so that we're on a zip line on vacation, you know,

0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:12.120
<v Speaker 1>you just throw up your microdrone, get some really great footage,

0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:14.399
<v Speaker 1>or you leave your microdone behind to attend meetings when

0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:18.199
<v Speaker 1>you go out of town. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, anyway,

0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I digress. We should probably get back to the actual

0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:24.920
<v Speaker 1>military military applications of it, because if you if you

0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:27.720
<v Speaker 1>throw it into this this this overall design that is

0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:30.359
<v Speaker 1>this idea of like a robotic military, you can easily

0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:33.040
<v Speaker 1>imagine like the micro Jones sort of doing the first

0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:37.200
<v Speaker 1>level scouting and surveillance, and then there's there there's like

0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:40.479
<v Speaker 1>a higher level of surveillance with with larger flying vehicles,

0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:42.359
<v Speaker 1>and then you have the the attack you a these

0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:47.080
<v Speaker 1>little it'll actually hit the target when needed, and then meanwhile,

0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:49.359
<v Speaker 1>like all the humans are back at their base. Just

0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:52.280
<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, and they're also I wanted to mention us too,

0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:56.640
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to increase the area that they can actually surveil.

0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:58.879
<v Speaker 1>And right now they have what is called a soda

0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:01.840
<v Speaker 1>straw view, uh you know with the with the drones,

0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:05.440
<v Speaker 1>but um, they're looking at a gorgon stair technology that's

0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:08.800
<v Speaker 1>what they're calling it. Yeah, and again that's another great

0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:12.000
<v Speaker 1>band title, right well, and another clash in the Times reference,

0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:14.800
<v Speaker 1>right oh, Because the idea is it's like a lot

0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:16.440
<v Speaker 1>of little straws that are going to be like the

0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:20.480
<v Speaker 1>snakeheads on the Medusa. I'm assuming so that are just

0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:22.960
<v Speaker 1>going to freeze the landscape that it's looking at. It

0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:24.640
<v Speaker 1>seems like they we just want to want. They must

0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:26.560
<v Speaker 1>be really into Greek mythology or Clash of the times,

0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:28.879
<v Speaker 1>because it seems like you just wanna, you know, compare

0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:32.080
<v Speaker 1>to the the the eye structure of a fly. Yeah,

0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:34.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know whoever is uh doing all the marketing

0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:37.760
<v Speaker 1>for this really has a good beat on histrionics, I

0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:41.399
<v Speaker 1>have to say, because I mean if the the stealth

0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:44.320
<v Speaker 1>drone that was used in Pakistans called the Beast of Kindahar,

0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:47.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean nuts, how do you not love that? Uh?

0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:50.560
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, this gorgon stair technology can capture live video

0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:54.760
<v Speaker 1>an entire city. But that requires two thousand analysts process

0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:57.480
<v Speaker 1>the data feeds from a single drone compared with nineteen

0:20:57.520 --> 0:21:01.400
<v Speaker 1>analysts per drone today. That being side, this is something

0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:04.880
<v Speaker 1>technology that's going to be used pretty soon. Um, that's

0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:07.640
<v Speaker 1>not much of a force multiplier. Though if that many

0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:10.639
<v Speaker 1>people were required to sift through the data exactly exactly,

0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:13.000
<v Speaker 1>and then again that's you couldn't actually send those people

0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:16.439
<v Speaker 1>out to perch on, uh, somebody's shoulder in a war

0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:20.440
<v Speaker 1>zone or you know, in an enemy nation's capital. That's

0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:23.760
<v Speaker 1>the rub. We cannot shrink ourselves yet yet yet. But

0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:25.359
<v Speaker 1>of course what does this do. This is kind of

0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:30.240
<v Speaker 1>freaking out some people. Why because this could be used

0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:34.200
<v Speaker 1>for non warfare applications. And in fact, there's a great

0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:37.159
<v Speaker 1>Washington Post article called domestic use of aerial drones by

0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:41.480
<v Speaker 1>law enforcement likely to prompt privacy debate and you know

0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:44.440
<v Speaker 1>how this feeds into my whole privacy thing. By two

0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:47.480
<v Speaker 1>thousand and thirteen, the f A expects to have formulated

0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:50.600
<v Speaker 1>new rules that would allow police across the country to

0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:54.160
<v Speaker 1>routinely fly lightweight on armed drones up to four feet

0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:57.000
<v Speaker 1>above ground, high enough for them to be largely invisible

0:21:57.240 --> 0:22:01.680
<v Speaker 1>eyes in the sky. And uh, it's it's cost like

0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:04.520
<v Speaker 1>fifty bucks, so it's really not that expensive. It's actually

0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:07.320
<v Speaker 1>less than a police helicopter. So it's very likely that

0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:10.080
<v Speaker 1>this is going to be used a lot in the future,

0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:13.000
<v Speaker 1>but it can with the The rub is is that

0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:16.440
<v Speaker 1>they can record activities of public below with high resolution

0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:20.560
<v Speaker 1>infrared and thermal imaging cameras. So you'll reach a point

0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:22.960
<v Speaker 1>where someone like people will scattered there like, oh, my goodness,

0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:24.920
<v Speaker 1>is a police pigeon. Well it's not. You know, it's

0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:28.200
<v Speaker 1>not a real pigeon, it's it's mechanical. Well this for

0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:30.480
<v Speaker 1>this application, then it will be an actual like says no,

0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:35.840
<v Speaker 1>like drone. But you know, obviously, um, this could become minature.

0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:39.800
<v Speaker 1>It could become cost effective enough to get a micro drone.

0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean we're talking about that, this is going to happen.

0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Who knows about microdrones might be in use all the time.

0:22:47.520 --> 0:22:50.359
<v Speaker 1>What does that mean my bonfire? When I'm playing kumbay

0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:54.399
<v Speaker 1>on my guitar, they're going to be seeing that. Nobody

0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:58.000
<v Speaker 1>needs to see that. Now that the the idea of

0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:04.280
<v Speaker 1>like a totally automated military like it, it fascinates me

0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:06.439
<v Speaker 1>on two well on multiple levels. But two things immediately

0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:08.159
<v Speaker 1>come to mind. First of all, the Dark Crystal. Have

0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:10.240
<v Speaker 1>you seen the Dark Crystal? I've not seen the Dark Crystal.

0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:11.959
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it comes up there like every want

0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 1>someone in our conversations and I have to see it.

0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Well it's it's a classic. And but but in this

0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:19.440
<v Speaker 1>world of the Dark Crystal, you have the evil Skexies

0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:22.480
<v Speaker 1>who all kind of look like grotesque vultures and in costume,

0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:24.639
<v Speaker 1>and you know they're they're cowardly and they stick to

0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:27.320
<v Speaker 1>their their castle, and they want to hunt down the

0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:31.159
<v Speaker 1>gelf links. Uh, that's their thing and uh. And so

0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:33.639
<v Speaker 1>they send out these like these crystals that are on

0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:36.480
<v Speaker 1>bat wings, the spy everywhere to try and find the

0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:38.359
<v Speaker 1>gulf links. And if they find the gelf links, then

0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:43.200
<v Speaker 1>they send out these giant beetle monstrosities that shamble into

0:23:43.240 --> 0:23:46.159
<v Speaker 1>the village to try and chop them to pieces or

0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:51.399
<v Speaker 1>bring them back captive. And so I would hate to see, like,

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:55.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, our nation follow the skexy model of military

0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:59.280
<v Speaker 1>conguest to where we're a bunch of you know, disgusting

0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:03.200
<v Speaker 1>vulture creatures who just send out are strange creations to

0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:06.280
<v Speaker 1>get what we want from the surrounding world because it

0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:09.720
<v Speaker 1>becomes easier to do so suddenly you need more resources.

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Well I don't have to actually fight a war. I

0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:14.000
<v Speaker 1>just send off these robots to uh to secure it

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.359
<v Speaker 1>for me. It becomes this, you know, kind of a

0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:21.480
<v Speaker 1>robotic surgical colonialism. Um. And then on the other hand,

0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:24.840
<v Speaker 1>what happens when you have two opposing forces each with

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:28.560
<v Speaker 1>a robot military does does war? Ever? End. If too

0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:31.880
<v Speaker 1>robot armies are fighting each other, it becomes who runs

0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:34.399
<v Speaker 1>out of parks first? Right, Yeah, It's interesting because right

0:24:34.440 --> 0:24:36.320
<v Speaker 1>now the United States is certainly on the cutting edge

0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:38.200
<v Speaker 1>of this, right, but everybody wants it on the game

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:40.920
<v Speaker 1>and they will and and in fact that the Danger

0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Room on Wired talks about how China is actually really

0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 1>like a couple of decades behind on this technology and

0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:51.520
<v Speaker 1>they will eventually um catch up. But I mean, for

0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:54.879
<v Speaker 1>right now, you know we're we're the big game changer

0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:57.119
<v Speaker 1>on this, but I mean, this is this is the

0:24:57.160 --> 0:24:59.560
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. I can sure we're game changers now, but

0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:01.560
<v Speaker 1>twenty thirty years from now, how is it going to

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:04.080
<v Speaker 1>be used against us? And or will it be used

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:07.720
<v Speaker 1>against us? And that's that's the danger. Whenever you introduce

0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:11.920
<v Speaker 1>a new technology, right yeah, you're you're actually essentially introducing

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:14.359
<v Speaker 1>it against yourself at some point. Well I guess I

0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:16.840
<v Speaker 1>just hope that if if if worse came to worse,

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:19.399
<v Speaker 1>and like the robots of us and the robots of

0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:23.240
<v Speaker 1>China we're about to fight, the Japan's Mecca Godzilla would

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 1>would jump in and just calm everybody down, like like

0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:28.600
<v Speaker 1>pulled up both of its claws and be like, all right, guys,

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:31.920
<v Speaker 1>settle it. Let's settle down. Yeah, yeah, most certainly, and

0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:35.000
<v Speaker 1>then hopefully their technology will have filtered down to us

0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:38.400
<v Speaker 1>and we can all just pull over our vending machine.

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Um cloaks, right that they've developed, Well they're not really cloaks,

0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:45.920
<v Speaker 1>but you know what I'm talking to I've told you

0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:48.479
<v Speaker 1>about this all right, where you look like a vending machine, right,

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:51.040
<v Speaker 1>it's actually like this little zip up thing that you

0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 1>can have that you erect. You know, it's it's portable,

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:56.280
<v Speaker 1>you can have it in your backpack, you whip it out,

0:25:56.800 --> 0:25:58.159
<v Speaker 1>you set it up like a tent, and all of

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:00.400
<v Speaker 1>a sudden you look like a vending machine. I see,

0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:02.680
<v Speaker 1>that's good. I like I like that use of our

0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:05.840
<v Speaker 1>ingenuity rather than let's figure out better ways to blow

0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:09.560
<v Speaker 1>each other up. But I will say a microdrone app

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 1>would be pretty cool on a zip line, would it? Like,

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 1>instead of getting on the zip line, you would sense

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:19.200
<v Speaker 1>you have a microdone who actually filming while you're on

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:21.119
<v Speaker 1>the microdraze. Well, yes, that would be good. And I

0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 1>should also also mentioned to the Google CEO. I can't

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:27.720
<v Speaker 1>remember the name of this cat, but he purchased a

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 1>microdone for his own personal use, which freaked a bunch

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:32.320
<v Speaker 1>people out because, of course they thought that Google was

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:35.680
<v Speaker 1>going to start using instead of street view, you know, microdrones.

0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Huh well, I would be more concerned if, like it

0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:41.960
<v Speaker 1>seems like the better use of that for a large

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:47.880
<v Speaker 1>corporation would be corporate espionage. Yes, y mm hmm. Well,

0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 1>if we see something flying around here that looks like people,

0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 1>we will know corporate espionage is going on. Yeah yeah,

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 1>well yeah, so hopefully everybody knows to be a little

0:26:56.359 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 1>more afraid of that unidentified bug or bird buzzing around

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:04.679
<v Speaker 1>outside the office. Now. Uh so, let's turn our attention

0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 1>to a little listener mail. All right, Eric, right, son,

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:10.520
<v Speaker 1>it says, I just wanted to share a quickie with you.

0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:14.639
<v Speaker 1>It's untrue that the platypus does not get respect. We

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:17.879
<v Speaker 1>respect the animal. Here in Oregon. The Platypus Trophy is

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:20.360
<v Speaker 1>awarded every year to the winner of the Civil War.

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:24.119
<v Speaker 1>The n c A a rivalry football game held between

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 1>the Saintly, Beautiful and Awesome University of Oregon Ducks in

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:32.200
<v Speaker 1>the Evil, Ugly Vile Oregon State Beavers. Because the two

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:35.120
<v Speaker 1>team maskets are the Dusk, the ducks and the beavers.

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Someone carved a beautiful wooden platypus that is now used

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 1>as the trophy pome. Well that is pretty awesome. Yeah yeah,

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:46.560
<v Speaker 1>because it's kind of not really but it's sort of thematic. Yeah,

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:51.159
<v Speaker 1>nicely done, thanks er. Yeah. So, um hey, if you

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:53.640
<v Speaker 1>guys want to share anything with us, you can first

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:55.920
<v Speaker 1>of all find us on Twitter, Facebook. We are blow

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 1>the Mind on both of those and uh we populate

0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:02.200
<v Speaker 1>bocos fees with all sorts of cool links and thoughts

0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 1>and uh and you know stuff about our upcoming episodes,

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.200
<v Speaker 1>and you can always drop us a line at Blow

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 1>the Mind at how stuff works dot com. Be sure

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 1>to check out our new video podcast, Stuff from the Future.

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:21.639
<v Speaker 1>Join how Stuff Work staff as we explore the most

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 1>promising and perplexing possibilities of tomorrow.